BaU with Joe Rogers and Patrick Beggs

Stick the landing. Exploring life’s critical junctures

Tue, 16 Apr 2024 19:55:12 GMT

In this episode, Joe and Patrick resume their convo on intentionality. They unpack the concept of intentionality, discussing how they've consciously incorporated it into every facet of their lives, from personal decisions to professional strategies. Joe highlights how pivotal it is when your intentions turn into reality to understand to let yourself breathe before you commit to the next path. They discuss how dangerous these ‘in between’ phases for Men can be. Patrick considers these phases as essential for a deeper understanding of life and crucial for nourishing the next phase of where to invest the only commodity that matters, your time.

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Embracing intention rather than distraction

Tue, 02 Apr 2024 19:59:07 GMT

Join BAU as much needed rain lands across Eastern Australia as a late Easter present. The two discuss on how to take deliberate steps in the age of distraction. In this episode, Pat shares his perspective on the importance of pacing yourself, emphasising that recognising the long journey ahead and strategically observing the field is just as crucial as seizing opportunities with quick sprints. Joe highlights the significance of intentionality in affecting the change you wish to see in the world and yourself. Together, they offer a unique blend of strategies for long-term success and immediate impact, inviting listeners to rethink their approach to both life and work in the face of continued disruptions.

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The Shift

Wed, 27 Mar 2024 02:08:39 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they dissect the complex nuances of our current economic landscape and most importantly the nocturnal habits of Koalas. They peel back the layers and get into the nitty-gritty of automation, the state of the economy, and the profound gap between institutional messaging and the lived experiences of individuals. The conversation critiques the retrospective nature of economic reports and the scarcity of forward-looking insights, highlighting the disconnect between official communications and the reality faced by many. The two ask, where does that leave the everyday person when making decisions around finances and risk? The answer: read between the lines and from multiple sources.

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Adapting Brands for an Automated World: The Shift from Search to Answer

Tue, 19 Mar 2024 22:15:30 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they explore into the emergence of "The Age of Answer" and its subsequent impact on how brands will show up into the future. Pat delves into Joe's thoughts and experiences running The Contenders, highlighting how brand significance is evolving in a world of personalised feeds, information bubbles, and tech products. They discuss the idea that while brands continue to hold value, that value will increasingly differ from person to person, reflecting our journey into a different type of future culture based in individualism vs the more collective past.

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Defining Happiness

Tue, 12 Mar 2024 18:55:27 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they dig into navigating through their experiences of both happiness and unhappiness. They chat through how they approach happiness and delve into their personal strategies for coping with unhappiness. They discuss the impact of external factors like the digital world on their mental health, and explore the intrinsic and extrinsic motivations behind their actions. Through their conversation, they highlight the importance of finding meaning in life's pursuits and the challenges of balancing the digital influence with personal growth and contentment.

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Navigating Tomorrow: Education, Generations, and the Future of Opportunity

Tue, 05 Mar 2024 21:38:47 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they navigate the uncharted territories of tomorrow's opportunity landscape. In this defining era, the blueprint of the next generation's moment to shine remains intriguingly TBC (To Be Confirmed). The two delve into the heart of an often heated debate: the generational advantage between baby boomers and the subsequent generations. While opinions may vary, Joe and Pat find common ground on the transformative power of education. They discuss the needs for it to evolve to allow for a new way we value and harness human contributions. As we stand on the cusp of change, it's clear that the skill sets of today will have to evolve drastically, paving the way for the innovations of tomorrow and today as we make room for what's to come.

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The case for Universal Basic Income

Wed, 28 Feb 2024 01:18:11 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they dig under the hood of a shifting work environment. With Joe putting forward the case that UBI would go along way to supporting and maybe even reinvigorating an economy that is becoming more scared to take risk. As the spoils continue to go to the big seven as we continue to witnessing a trend where dominant market players merge further concentrating their power, the question arises: How do we pivot back to championing small-scale enterprises and fostering a more diversified economic ecosystem? When and how do we get back to being small?

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Shared value

Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:49:40 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they dive into the digital divide, exploring how significant weather events and shared governance impact our digital landscape. Question the ownership of digital infrastructures, the balance between public and private sectors, and the vital role of digital literacy in ensuring equitable access. Poking holes and trying to find insights on the potential for innovation in digital access and identity management, and ponder the what the future holds for digital participation for all looks like.

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Bonjour AI

Tue, 13 Feb 2024 18:55:39 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they take stock of AI and interrogate where value is being created and captured, from what and from whom? Joe comes out swinging in this episode for the hot minute, casting his gaze to the big seven that have been holding up the S&P 500. The two explore how we might break up companies when they become too big and what does it mean for the future if we don't.

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Pulse check

Tue, 06 Feb 2024 18:55:12 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they take a moment to get a pulse check on 2024. With monetary policy tightened and changing the tempo the duo focus to the everyday implications and atmosphere surrounding it. This weeks hot take finds them engaging in arguments on some points and finding common ground on others. They both agree that we are treading water at best in a sea with a strong undercurrent of AI, Polarisation and conflict threatening to drag us all out into the deep water. Keep paddling and stay tuned for more next week.

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New beginnings

Wed, 31 Jan 2024 03:57:14 GMT

Join Joe and Pat for their 2nd chat of 2024.101 convos in. Join us weekly for a hot take of the week and a deep dive into where it leads us. This week the boys take a swing at whether our institutions are letting us down with their unwillingness to throw away the shackles of expertise and embrace being equal to all.

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Re-imaging the formate

Tue, 23 Jan 2024 22:45:33 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they take their first swing in 2024, with a new format to boot. Leading with a hot take of the week, to which they have affectionately named amateur minute. Where they take a swing at solving some of the world's most pressing issues. With a more traditional deep dive to follow.

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Convo 99: Goodbye 2023 and hello 24

Thu, 11 Jan 2024 18:55:35 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they bit adieu to 23 and welcome in 24 with wary eyes. The two bring out their respective crystal balls and make their predictions for the year ahead and look into the rearview mirror with perspective to summerise the year that's gone. Stay tuned for the refresh of the convo as the two look to explore new premises of intrigue in the year ahead on the pod.

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Convo 98: Accountability

Tue, 12 Dec 2023 18:55:22 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they dissect the multifaceted concept of accountability and its significance in today's leadership landscape. The convo navigates through the pandemic's impact on accountability, contrasting leadership styles from Texas to California, and the vital role of discipline. It also emphasises the challenges of decision-making in an information-saturated era. They conclude by highlighting resilience as a key component in sustaining a culture of accountability, both in personal growth and collective responsibility within communities and organisations.

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Convo 97: Leadership as a platform

Tue, 05 Dec 2023 18:55:22 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they continue to delve into the evolving complexities of modern leadership. They explore the shift from traditional hierarchical models to more inclusive and non-hierarchical approaches, emphasising the importance of adaptability and empathy in today's multi-channeled and personalised communication landscape. The episode highlights the enduring qualities of effective leadership, including the critical role of allowing each team member to understand their importance to achieving an organisation's vision. The duo also examines the significance of a strong platform presence in leadership and the challenges of conveying a clear vision in our diverse, digital world. Additionally, they revisit the dynamic changes in leadership styles in the post-truth era, underlining the essential role of accountability. Tune in next time as they continue the conversation on accountability's vital part in fostering leadership that can go the distance.

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Convo 96: Leadership in post truth world

Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:55:53 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they continue the convo on existence in a post-truth era.

In this episode they delve into the evolving nature of societal leadership, questioning what has fundamentally changed in guiding others in these complex times. They argue that modern leadership is increasingly about providing platforms and creating accountability more than ever before. Joe and Pat discuss the challenges and pitfalls of such approaches in political and organisational contexts. They conclude setting the stage for the next episode, which will focus on the nuances of accountability and the art of fostering a central narrative that unites diverse perspectives.

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Convo 95: Governments' Role in Fostering Middle Ground in the Digital Age?

Tue, 14 Nov 2023 18:55:54 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they continue their ascent out of the valley of digital despair. In this convo, they focus on the role Government should play in restoring the middle ground in our public discourse and economic systems. They delve into how political dialogue and governmental mechanisms have evolved, highlighting the urgent need for a rule book overhaul to reflect our modern era where the current constitution is not up to snuff. Joe and Pat pave the way for future conversations about leading effectively in a landscape dominated by digital influence and heightened polarisation. Join them next convo as they delve deeper into the theme of leadership in a post-truth environment.

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Convo 94: Charting a way out

Wed, 08 Nov 2023 18:55:06 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they chart a way out of the valley of despair live from the top of a hill in Gippsland. The two trade notes from their personal and professional lives on how they maintain an attitude of hope in face of adversity. They explore new ways civil society can break up the tech titans of today who have over colonised our digital lives and landscapes. They close by asking the question about what to do with an egg once it is cracked when it comes to social media. Tune in next time as the two explore the role of government in building the conditions for new to thrive

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Convo 93: The donut is making us go nuts

Tue, 31 Oct 2023 18:55:43 GMT

Tune in as Joe and Pat explore the evolving dynamics of our interactions and transactions in an increasingly polarised world. They grapple with the challenges of holding a middle ground position in a world of algos that encourage a valley of disconnection and despair rather than deeper debate. While Pat embarks on a quest for silver linings, Joe shines a light on the current landscape and the impact of the 'rage machine' on diminishing middle-ground conversations.Join them again next week as they strategise an ascent from the valley.

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Convo 92: The Referendum

Tue, 24 Oct 2023 18:55:44 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they attempt to dissect the recent events surrounding the Australian referendum, switching focus from the last time they spoke. As Australia held a vote on whether to incorporate Indigenous Australian voices into the parliament through constitutional recognition. In this convo they explore the historical context of this decision and contemplate the potential implications for the future. They also raise the question: will this change the way we engage with one another?

As what was initially seen as an opportunity for Australians to unite has unfortunately turned into another contentious political football match, further dividing the nation. Where does Australia go from here? Tune in to our next episode as they continue the convo.

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Convo 91: The Nuances of Productivity

Tue, 26 Sep 2023 19:55:15 GMT

Join Pat and Joe as they delve deeper into the nuances of productivity. They examine its cause and effect in an era where the share of the spoils going to labor is at a historic low. Together, they assess the current state of affairs and contemplate what is at stake as we navigate through a transformative period. They explore how we are striving to define a "new normal" in the aftermath of changed dynamics in workplaces and family life how and policymakers are grappling with a shifting paradigm where most nuclear families to operate with two full-time wage earners. Joe and Pat set the stage for a future discussion on the essential support required to adapt to this emerging reality starting next week through the lens of family support.

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Convo 90: Productivity

Tue, 19 Sep 2023 19:55:21 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they look to unpack the productivity problem that has been splashed across many of the worlds economies and arguably non more so than Australia's. The two step outside their fields of expertise and begin to play out possible future scenarios that may be utilised to fix re-design economic models that would free up equity and increase productivity. Join the two next week as they continue the convo.

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Convo 89: Stay small or get sold.

Tue, 12 Sep 2023 19:55:59 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they wrap up their thoughts on the next 'Communicorn' and whether this mythical beast is even possible in an age of continued innovation. The overarching consensus is that a 'Communicorn' can exist in a niche, however, at scale, the Communicorn vanishes, giving way to a true commerce beast where community becomes the product.

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Convo 88: The Communicorn

Thu, 07 Sep 2023 20:28:42 GMT

Join Pat and Joe as they return to regular scheduled programming and their quest to determine whether a new communicorn is on the horizon. They delve deep into the concept, questioning whether it is a new platform or a aggregator of content such as Apple that will win the game of thrones. While content remains king and businesses strive to grow and differentiate in the digital realm, it's clear that storytelling and the ability to captivate and maintain attention are paramount. However, the role of community, the queen, is yet to be fully harnessed. They discuss how no one has successfully captured the fractional economy and distributed value fairly to those arguably creating the majority of it. Tune in next week as Joe and Pat continue the conversation.

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Convo 87: Checking in

Tue, 29 Aug 2023 19:55:20 GMT

Joe and Pat take a moment to pause and reflect on their personal lives in the latest episode of "Business as Unusual." Recognising the challenges of staying connected in our fast-paced world, they use this episode as an opportunity to check in as friends, discussing their current states from a personal rather than professional perspective. It's a valuable moment of reflection and connection, and a reminder of the importance of taking stock of our well-being amidst the hustle and bustle of life. Be sure to join Joe and Pat next week as they resume their conversation and explore the potential birthplace of the next communicorn.

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Convo 86: Is there room for a communicorn?

Tue, 22 Aug 2023 19:55:07 GMT

Join Joe and Pat on as they delve into the diminishing role of intermediaries and explore the potential for a new player to revolutionize the way we collaborate and form groups. Can Apple Inc. dominate this evolving space? While they might have the appetite to capitalize on the shifting dynamics, can they continue to innovate amidst the changing landscape of social platforms that increasingly resemble traditional cable models? The changing digital realm promises opportunities for innovation. The pivotal question is: how will this landscape transform in an AI-driven world rapidly progressing towards a fractional economy?

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Convo 85: Creating value and meaning, Can groups still do it?

Tue, 15 Aug 2023 19:55:21 GMT

Join the boys as they navigate the intricate and intersected mazes of online walled gardens. While not frustrated that their journey to identify strategies for small groups to cultivate value has not yielded the next communicorn the convo provides insight into shifts in the digital realm that are part of the equation in getting there. From the gradual phasing out of middlemen, digital land grabs and the impending surge of AI-generated content, Pat and Joe grapple with evolving concepts of social engagement – the primary reason we once eagerly reached for our phones .In this age of digital metamorphosis, where can individuals truly belong? Where can they contribute, be acknowledged, or perhaps even learn and earn? Dive deeper next week as the conversation unfolds.

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Convo 84: X going to give it to you.

Tue, 01 Aug 2023 19:55:45 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they delve into the implications of Elon Musk's endeavour to 'kill the bird,' looking into its potential signals or perhaps the lack thereof. The convo attempts to stay focused on the unique value niche communities can carve out amidst the shifting paradigm of how they are formed online. The two talk about the future storage, capture, and distribution of value in an era dominated by AI and how the ongoing Hollywood strike is a foreteller of the rapid change to come. Hold onto your hats and Intellectual Property. Tune in next week as Pat and Joe dig deeper into the strategies that small groups can employ to build value within the confines of online walled gardens. Woof

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Convo 83: Building value one wall at a time

Tue, 18 Jul 2023 19:55:53 GMT

Join Joe and pat as they dive into the contrarian idea that to truly innovate in the web-driven 'winner-takes-all' world, the most strategic step is to build a protective wall so you can foster a unique community within. The two look to current examples to show that social is taking a step off main stage with the most exciting conversations often happening in private online groups. With the public social feed having replaced the free to air tv model join the two next week to continue the convo on who is going to step up and invent the next network.

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Convo 82: Redefining Value Distribution in a Winner-Takes-All World

Tue, 11 Jul 2023 19:55:37 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they pick up the convo on the distribution of value in an era where binary outcomes have become the new norm. They delve into the rise and decline of apex organisations, assessing the current landscape for incumbents who are seeking to disrupt or differentiate themselves. Venturing into the realm of the unexpected, they propose a contrarian approach: to truly innovate in the web-driven 'winner-takes-all' world, the most strategic step may be to build a protective wall, fostering a unique community and value from within.

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Convo 81: Segmentation. Will AI integrate or re-create

Tue, 04 Jul 2023 19:55:38 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they did into the world of segmentation.The two take on whether AI is a new platform changing the status quo or an add on to existing players. They look into how in the face of AI industry is changing in its approach to segmenting different parts of production of goods, services and experiences to build a big enough moat to keep even super intelligent robots out of their data lakes. Join the two on the next convo as they discuss the changes in how value as a whole is created in a winner takes most world as they explore the question how to distribute that value fairly.

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Convo 80: Cash in your chips or invest to gain productivity

Tue, 27 Jun 2023 19:55:53 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they continue their convo on Generative AI as they pivot from culture and trends into its effect on productivity. They explore what is changing in the way we interact and transact. The two assess whether generative AI will be the solve all solution to productivity and ask whether it can make up for the loss of institutional working capital that the pandemic produced, time will tell. Join the two next week as they look into market segmentation as they and continue the convo on how AI will impact its growth or decline.

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Convo 79: Fortune will favour the brave

Mon, 19 Jun 2023 23:07:24 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they continue their convo on the social and cultural trends that are at play and how they will influence the way AI will roll now and into the future. The two discuss the legacy of free money and the transition back into a world where money costs broadly what it always did. They pair this with the polarisation of the the post truth era served with side course of Covid confusion. Key takeaways, fortune will favour the brave, times are only getting tougher, the moment is ripe moment for disruption and find new ways to transact and interact.

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Convo 78: New headwinds creating new economic models

Tue, 13 Jun 2023 19:55:20 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they dial in on the new financial weather patterns hovering over our heads. They kick off the convo discussing what economic models are born in such environments and where does AI fit in? Is it a new product in an of itself or just an enhancement tool to better exisiting use cases or verticals? Join the two next convo as they look to social and cultural trends that will influence what comes next

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Convo 77: Does culture now eat product for brekky?

Tue, 30 May 2023 21:43:28 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they underneath the surface to see what is really being sold today, is it culture or product. The answer? Culture. In a market saturated in product and starved of connection and meaning the new commodity is affection and experience. Has the age of virtue signalling and the mass adoption of digital changed us forever? Join the two as they discuss and dissect some more in their next convo.

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Convo 76: Reading past the froth of AI

Tue, 23 May 2023 19:55:42 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they block out the hype and discuss the longer term growth of AI. The two fight through the top line paranoia that AI is going eat us one industry at a time.

Taking the convo beyond the froth and land on the realisation we are heading past the product based marketplace to a culture based one. Apple seems like is winning the game. Join the two next week as they continue the convo.

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Convo 75: What will it mean to be Human in an AI world?

Tue, 16 May 2023 19:55:47 GMT

Join the convo as Joe and Pat dive deep into what it means to be human in an AI world. The two plunge to dystopian depths as they evaluate the defining characteristics of what it means to be a human in the context of the the double edge sword of AI. Is it the end of us or a new beginning? Could go either way. They both discuss we are making decisions today that will have consequences for generations to come in the way that they interact and transact with one another, as AI rolls out at breakneck speed.

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Convo 74: AI; The solution or just another mask?

Tue, 09 May 2023 19:55:04 GMT

Will AI help us solve our biggest problems or just put another mask on the problems of humanity. Join us as we keep digging into what industries will be reshaped by AI and most importantly what this means for society. We put a historical lens on this moment in time where AI is coming to life. We peel back the curtains on the culture factory and examine what is to come in the wake of AI generated content in a post truth society bedevilled by inequality. Join in next week as we dig into the question, 'What will it mean to be Human in an AI world’.

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Convo 73: The keys to AI's big unlock, Part 2

Tue, 02 May 2023 19:55:32 GMT

Join Joe and Pat they continue to dig into the unlocks that AI could bring. Pat predicts a new AI marries web3 bull run fuelled by with a new wave of products to come within 2024 and that the decentralised web technology will unlock the biggest problems that AI presents such as data integrity as it permeates all areas of our lives. Joe calls for the ‘unbundling’ of IP driven by AI creating value for many creative thinkers across the globe and that it will free our systems from the tyranny of the human mins. Together the two make for an interesting take on the possibilities and challenges that AI brings to humanity. Join the two next episode as they continue the convo.

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Convo 72: The keys to AI's big unlocks, Part 1

Tue, 25 Apr 2023 19:55:23 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they dig into their promise to share their thoughts on what AI can and will unlock for the world and the issues this presents. The two took different tacks when doing their homework so the conversation explores the morals and the models channeled by AI. Pat brings to life the human moral dilemma at the heart of his relationship with AI while Joe brings the perspective of how it can unlock value in human systems. Join the two next week for Part Two as they keep pushing into the world of unlocks.

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Convo 71: Can policy keep pace with change? History says no

Tue, 18 Apr 2023 19:55:46 GMT

Join Pat and Joe as they dig into whether public policy can ever keep pace with technological advancements. The two weigh the pros and cons of whether government can ever balance the need for speed, effectiveness and innovation in the face of new waves of technological advancement.

With governments around the globe looking at ways to build resilient policies that protect people and promote breakthroughs it is a space that is only getting hotter. Join the two on the next convo as they two put forward their three biggest unlocks that they think AI has the capability to solve for the good of society.

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Convo 70: Pause for thought while in the UK

Mon, 10 Apr 2023 23:14:23 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they talk through the latest developments in the AI public discourse and asses were it is heading, with Joe bringing the European perspective as he dials in from the outskirts of London. The two weigh up the latest headlines for call to pause the continued development of Open AI's ChatGPT, its origins and the notarises who have gotten behind the movement, and what that says about society. Ending the conversation on the question can public policy speed up to catch the latest runaway train? Join the two on the next episode as they dive a little deeper into that question.

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Convo 69: AI, How you talk to me will define you!

Tue, 21 Mar 2023 18:55:10 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they take their convo from the car to the screen to discuss how unique data sets will act as the unlock in the race to commercialise AI. The two talk chat GPT4 and what it's closest to, a mate, a colleague, a foe or none of the above. Joe and Pat have widely differing opinions yet agree that it will change the way we interact with not just technology but each other in the long run. Never before have we been so intimate with a new tech.

Join the two next episodes as our BaU UK correspondent, Joe brings us the latest from the streets of Europe and England. Will AI save him from bad beer and pork pies? Time will tell

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Convo 68: Compute is the new commodity

Tue, 07 Mar 2023 18:55:16 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they drive back from an Australian first round table on the future of AI. The two compare notes and conclude that computing processing power is the next scalable, sellable telecommunication commodity that will be bought, sold and fought over in the age of AI.

The two end the conversation by interrogating the myth that humans will have more time to chill in the age of AI. Join the two next week as they look to Data and its renewed value in providing unique insight in an age of AI.

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Convo 67: Our future relies on the infrastructure we build today

Tue, 28 Feb 2023 18:55:59 GMT

Join Pat and Joe as the dive into the infrastructure layer needed to bring future technology into existence. The two discuss how we have gone past the tipping point where it is now a necessity to invent better tech to help solve some of humanities most pressing issues. They close by exploring what is needed and what is left to be done. Join in next week as they explore what that might actually look like across energy, computational power and AI.

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Convo 66: AI: The promise vs current reality

Tue, 21 Feb 2023 18:55:21 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they dive into the promise vs the reality of AI delivering a new wave of value. The two unpack thoughts on why is it always Cat memes, the weeks latest news and share insights into the immediate hurdles stopping the new wave of value that will be build off the back of AI technology. Join the two next week as they delve deeper into the infrastructure that is needed to be created to service AI at scale.

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Convo 65: Search for AI is on

Tue, 14 Feb 2023 18:55:25 GMT

Join us as Joe and Pat pick up the conversation where they left off last at the fork in the road for where the next wave of tech innovation will take us. They explore how the battle between the juggernauts still riding the high line of the last two waves of digital innovation might play out in the out in the new fight to redefine and own search. Joe and Pat turn their attention to where new value will arise from AI and ask each other what this will mean for the way we interact in the future.

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Convo 64: The defining mystery of AI

Tue, 07 Feb 2023 18:55:54 GMT

Join in the convo as Pat and Joe dive into their predictions on what will be the main mysteries that AI is going to solve. AI will 100% free us from the tyranny of typing but the two explore whether it will also free us from our worship of technology and its fallible inventors. Could it bring a world where we understand our own personal data by making coding and data literacy as accessible as reading and writing? Join in next week next episode we they continue to explore the fork in the road that AI presents to reclaim or reseed our own data sovereignty.

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Convo 63: Al our new deity

Tue, 31 Jan 2023 18:55:44 GMT

Join us as Joe and Pat continue to unpack our complicated relationship with technology. They explore how it is a human to view technology as a type of deity as it solves a mystery or answers a question that seemed unanswerable prior. They discuss what the defining ‘god like’ features of the human AI relationship might be be and how it may shape how we access the very world of technology we have created. They close out the convo by exploring what is going to be the defining mystery that AI is perceived to solve for humanity and what types of pedestals it might be put upon as a result.

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Convo 62: Birthing a new deity

Tue, 24 Jan 2023 18:55:53 GMT

Join in as Pat and Joe pick up the convo on what does AI means for industries, societies and us as individuals. They discuss how we are witnessing the birth of a new AI God or at the very least a new mythology that furthers our worship of the tools we create. The two dig into what this means, where it will take us it and what we can make of it in the process. In the next episode they get into the detail of how the tools of tech have become our post modern deity.

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Convo 61: 2023 the death of google?

Tue, 17 Jan 2023 18:55:48 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they dust dust off the studio cobwebs and get back to business as unusual. The raise of AI to stardom, will it take the throne of google and see it tumble from the throne of search, most likely not without a fight as they release their own versions of AI products. Yet what is clear we are in another tech race to define a decade to come. Join us next wee as the two discuss the possible business models that will sit behind the new AI product base ecosystems.

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Convo 60: Wrapping 2022

Tue, 27 Dec 2022 18:55:34 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they wrapped up the year that was 2022. Taking time to reflect on what has transpired and what is to come, with the two agreeing on something that gratitude is a dish best served consistently.

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Convo 59: Energy decoded, distributed and decentralised

Tue, 20 Dec 2022 18:55:15 GMT

Joe and Pat dig in deep and look at what is holding us back from truly entering energy nirvana. They ask how the principles of peer to peer, fractional economics and decentralisation will be applied to upend the industry. They explore how unlocking at a platform level storage and distribution will be the keys to who wins and loses in the upcoming energy revolution. Join the two next week as they close out the year ahead of the Aussie summer break with some reflection and horizon gazing.

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Convo 58: Why were they renting out the room

Tue, 13 Dec 2022 18:55:27 GMT

As they turn their gaze to the years ahead Pat and Joe dive into the reasons behind why people turn to the fractional economy that has led to Air BnB replacing its long forgotten cousin, couchsurfing.com. With hard economic truths rearing their heads up like plating whack a mole, the opportunity to turn energy via Virtual Power Plants and other sectors via shared models into a fractional based solutions for all is getting stronger. Join the two as they paint as good a picture as any about the opportunity and hurdles to reaching our energy nirvana.

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Convo 57: The dawn of many to many

Tue, 06 Dec 2022 18:55:28 GMT

Join Pat and Joe as they continue their conversation on the dawn of the peer to peer era. Enabled by technology, the two examine the idea of the disintegration of arbitrage as we know it today where one centre takes from the many spokes and how it is inspiring more 'many to many' based networks where peers support peers. Join in on the next convo as they look into how peer to peer leads to a fractional economy and the incentive models that will propel a mass adoption of a peer to peer economy

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Convo 56: Car Casting our gaze five years out

Tue, 29 Nov 2022 18:55:28 GMT

Join Joe and Pat for a car cast driving back from the woods as they look to the future and paint a picture of what distributed data, ledgers and currency will look like. The two have one thing in common with their predictions, we are heading into the era of peer to peer. Join the two next week as they two keep the crystal ball spinning and examine what this means for legacy industry today and where do they need to head to pivot to the era of peer to peer.

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Convo 55: Wild Weather mirroring the current state of Web 2.0

Tue, 22 Nov 2022 18:55:24 GMT

Join in the fun as Joe welcomes Pat back from his European strike mission to visit the epicentre of the developing Web 3.0. The two kick off the conversation by diving straight into the to the current affairs at the moment from what the calamities at FDX and Twitter really mean. The two zoom out and try to get a read on what all this means now but more importantly what this will mean retrospectively in 5 years time for the world of distributed data, ledgers and currency.

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Convo 54: Our European corespondent

Tue, 15 Nov 2022 18:55:02 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they take you to the heart of the future of the Web live from Lisbon at the 2022 IPFS camp and WEB summit. Pat shares his key reflections and the two frame that against the activities on the agenda in Lisbon to examine the practicalities and actualities of building distributed applications from ledgers, to servers and even communities.

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Convo 53: How to build consensus

Tue, 18 Oct 2022 18:55:23 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they look past leadership and into the dark arts of consensus building. The two interrogate the art and look to where it most often occurs or springs from. Asking each other what has changed in the space and what is required to work a narrative in favour of an agenda.

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Convo 52: What has changed in the art of leadership

Tue, 11 Oct 2022 18:55:11 GMT

As the dreaded 4C’s of Contraction, Conflict and Climate and the Cats winning all intersect at once Joe and Pat look into the art of leadership. They explore whether it has ever changed, how it is now shaped by data and technology and whether decentralisation is harming or aiding any consensus being found

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Convo 51: The path out and away from two dimensional

Tue, 04 Oct 2022 18:55:08 GMT

In this episode Pat and Joe look past the two dimensional internet and into the three dimensional one being created. They explore whether this will follow a similar model of technology adoption to the distributed mobile internet or whether it will begin in a more concentrated rollout inside specific communities similar to the original internet. The two discuss the role of leadership in deciding where this will go. Join us on the next episode as the discussion continues about the ask this poses of leadership today and into the future.

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Convo 50: Past the Mobile door and into the kinetic web

Wed, 28 Sep 2022 04:10:35 GMT

On this episode Joe and Pat look into what are the technologies that are being put in place for us to go past the mobile phone and into the kinetic internet, where gesture meets 3d interfaces and mirror realities. Join us next week as Joe faces up to reality and changes tack to join AFL's greatest team of all the Geelong Cats.

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Convo 49: The demise of the device

Tue, 20 Sep 2022 19:55:38 GMT

Joe and Pat trace their steps backwards from last episode's bold prediction hat the coming years will see the death of the mobile as we know it. In this episode the two work through how the adoption of new behaviours, desire for more dimension in our experiences with technology and always on internet drove how we connect with the digital world from the handheld device towards new types of interfaces. Join them next time when they explore the innovations happening right now in the space that show the promise of their premise.

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Title - Convo 48: VR killed the mobile star.

Tue, 13 Sep 2022 19:55:00 GMT

Joe and Pat put their thinking caps on and look at what drivers will be responsible for the successful delivery of Web 3.0. They discuss how the mass adoption of blockchain, the everywhere net and the changes of our energy makeup will unlock the future of our interactions and transactions. Join the two on the next episode as they trace steps back from the future to explain just how the internet being everywhere will bring an end to the mobile device era

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Convo 47: The different faces of web3

Tue, 06 Sep 2022 19:55:28 GMT

Pat and Joe dive further into the meta and block chain world of web3 and investigate the different modes of operating in the space. They ask if the bear market brought a gift of fertile ground for new ideas to flourish? The answer may well be yes, as the market turns from a cypto ponzie scheme to utility of block chains in driving the next wave of innovation. Join the two on the next episode as they put the necks on the line and put forward their predictions for how this will play out over the next 7 years.

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Convo 46: The futurenet will be everywhere

Tue, 30 Aug 2022 19:55:23 GMT

Joe and Pat dig deep into their collective imagination to think past the obvious rails to explore the possibilities presented by the new layer of the decentralised web and what this means for communication, interaction and exploration. They explore whether we will still access via devices, how data might show up to augment daily tasks and how we might structure the net into augmented and immersive realities.

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Convo 45: Does Web 1 plus Web 2 equal Web 3.0?

Tue, 23 Aug 2022 19:55:16 GMT

Join Pat and Joe as they look back at what the previous two iterations of the internet promoted versus what they delivered. The two debate the premise and the promise of resilience as the main value build of Web 3.0 and dive deep into what that means and what it will look like for new businesses and legacy operators.

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Convo 44: Who will own the rails of Web3

Tue, 16 Aug 2022 19:55:13 GMT

Pat and Joe examine the evolution of Web 3.0 and whether it will follow the same path to corporatisation as its predecessors. The two use the question who is going to own the rails in the space across Fin and EnTech. They explore whether it will it be new form of ownerships based on decentralisation or will it follow in the footsteps of web2 by adding value through ease of use, access and new apps in the evolving tech stack? Find out next episode as the two evaluate the past internet iterations in search for clues to how the next era of the web may play out.

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Convo 43: Leaning into the bear

Tue, 09 Aug 2022 19:55:39 GMT

Join Pat and Joe as the enter the bear pit and re-evaluate how peoples and organisations' relationship to money is shifting post the pandemic printing fest and pre the end of inflation. They examine what the rising cost of cash means and focus on the opportunities that this shift presents in building the next era of the finance and technology. Join them next episode as they dive deep into who stands to own the rails of financial innovation in a decentralised future

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Convo 42: Communicating to capture value in an ecosystem

Tue, 02 Aug 2022 23:25:27 GMT

Join Joe and a post covid Pat as they dive into the last episode on how to create value in an ecosystem. The two examine two areas close the their professional hearts and dig into what roles branding and communicating play in capturing value in an ecosystem where the value is shared. Join us next week as the two look at the way we as individuals and businesses are changing the way we view and use money, as the world continues to plunge deeper into the bear pit.

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Convo 41: Positioning a new business with an ecosystem

Tue, 26 Jul 2022 19:55:49 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they look into the ways that businesses can position themselves within an ecosystem to provide value and capture a fair share of the pie. The two discuss the ways which value can be created, distributed and leveraged to push the needle on social and political issues. They conclude with a deep dive into how businesses will made and broken on who and what they align themselves with.

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Convo 40: Distributing value in an ecosystem

Tue, 19 Jul 2022 19:55:03 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they examine how the rule book for organisation growth has changed. As businesses shift mindset from winner takes all to an ecosystem provides for all the two examine how value is distributed and shared within. They discuss how being small and nimble is an advantage in an ever evolving sphere where success comes from your ability to both cooperate and compete.

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Convo 39: Capturing value within your ecosystem

Tue, 12 Jul 2022 19:55:35 GMT

On this weeks pod, we welcome Joey back from the snowy South of NZ. The boys dive straight back into the different models for capturing value by taking a ecosystem approach to value creation. The two dissect what this means for our short and long term future and compare models. Join in the next episode as they shed light into the key motivations to why organisations and individuals are incentivised in digital to learn to share better.

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Convo 38: Creating value from friction

Mon, 27 Jun 2022 21:30:29 GMT

Joe and Pat dive into the ways the markets are changing from a ‘zero to one’ winner takes all mindset towards ecosystems of value creation. The two look at how organisation and people interact with these new systems and explore the ways value can be created around the concept of friction. The two discuss how through either solving or embracing one you can find ways to develop new ideas and new value. Next time the two will look into new models for how to capture value once it has been created.

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Convo 37: Capturing and creating value Part 2

Tue, 21 Jun 2022 19:55:38 GMT

In the second part of a four part convo Joe and Pat digging into the ways that value can be created. The two talk to the importance of creating, supporting and enhancing ecosystems where others can share in the proceeds through their own creations. In part three they discuss and examine how value can be created and captured from solving a friction in a market or a community.

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Convo 36: Capturing and creating value Part 1

Tue, 14 Jun 2022 19:55:04 GMT

In amongst the inflation storm and choppy economic seas ahead Pat and Joe dig into approaches to creating and capturing value. In this episode they kick off the series around value by talking on the different approaches to defining it creating it and capturing it

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Convo 35: Maintaining a glass half full of optimism

Tue, 07 Jun 2022 19:55:34 GMT

Joe and Pat take the opportunity to check in with each other and share tactics on how to maintain a healthy dose of optimism. Against the backdrop of Mens Mental Health month, real and metaphorical rainclouds and Southern Winter upon us the two check with each other and share hacks on ways to break cycles in your thinking and embrace what life throws your way.

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Convo 34: Digital citizenship is a two way street

Tue, 31 May 2022 19:55:19 GMT

Pat and Joe wrap up their thoughts on bringing democracy into the the era of Web 3.0. In this fifth and final episode the two look at the role of digital citizenship in creating and eating the proverbial democracy sausage. They conclude their take on breaking from politics as usual exploring how has citizens we need to enable the move from popular politics and into policy politics.

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Convo 33: Decentralising democracy through digitalisation

Tue, 24 May 2022 19:55:33 GMT

In this episode Joe and Pat look at ways in which democracy can further embrace digital to drive decentralisation to allow for more participation and representation in governance from the get go. The two take inspiration from a previous BaU episode 'The Questioner' with Stefaan Verhulst aka Mr Data and a project that came out of The GovLab, titled The 100 Questions Initiative. They explore how you can encourage digital citizenship without failing into the same traps of todays top down representative approach filled with sausages and sticks.

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Convo 32: Building a digital democracy

Tue, 17 May 2022 19:55:46 GMT

Joe and Pat examine the philosophy and processes that would need to be put in place to bring democracy fully into the digital age. They propose a framework for ensuring everyone can participate in the creation of a voice of the people based system for sharing our views on issues that affect us all.

They discuss how open the data should be, who would set the questions and who would control the answers. They conclude with outlining the jobs to be done in the next episode to ensure the proposed processes truly allow equity to flourish rather than repeat our unequal history in the digital age.

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Convo 31: Data as democracy - The pros and Cons

Tue, 10 May 2022 19:55:38 GMT

Sticking to the program, Joe and Pat give their respective pros and cons on their revamped democratic system. The two dig into the potentiality and the reality of implementing new systems into old. The conversation leads the two to the realization that to make something like this land, you need a method to the madness. Next episode, join the two as they dive into what methods and processes would need to be put in place to best roll out their new system.

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Convo 30: Data as the Voice of Democracy

Tue, 03 May 2022 19:55:14 GMT

Kicking on from last week Joe and Pat dive into alternative approaches to designing ways to participate in our own governance. They explore how we could bring the voice of the people forward before we step into the ballot box to better set the table to vote on what really matters to them and their communities. The conversation leads the two to the hard realisation that everything has compromise and consequence when it comes to governance, with every approach carrying its own unique set of pros and cons

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Convo 29: Bringing democracy into digital age

Tue, 26 Apr 2022 19:55:36 GMT

In the middle a federal election in Australia Pat and Joe get back to work by asking the question can democracy be brought into the digital age? The two ask each other what that digital democracy process would look like and re-evaluate what our current form of legacy democracy is based on. They begin the process of looking at what digital democracy for communities could and would look like and set up a thought experiment to explore in their next convo.

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Convo 28: Narrative, how to deliver today and tomorrow

Tue, 05 Apr 2022 19:55:07 GMT

Joe and Pat get into the mechanics of what makes a narrative work in the long and the short term. They view narrative through the lenses of politics, social cohesion and personal life to see what drives success and what stops it. The two go deep on politics and the state of play in democracies where the long and the short are in constant conflict. The conversation leads the two into differing forms of governance that can enable citizens to feel part of narratives that can deliver in the short and hold true to the long.

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Convo 27: Hope is found in the reality we create

Tue, 29 Mar 2022 18:55:52 GMT

Joe and Pat jump into how hope based narratives can create change by grounding themselves in a shared reality.

The two examine how hope based narratives drive resilience, frame mistakes into lessons, change threat into opportunity, and turn problems to solutions. They uncover the main friction point that stops leaders creating hope based narratives in the 21st century and set up next weeks convo on how to develop organisational narratives that work in the short and long term.

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Convo 26: Connection gets you out of the mud and onto solid ground

Tue, 22 Mar 2022 18:55:15 GMT

Joe and Pat kick off where they ended off last week, exploring what being stuck in the emotional muck really means and the opportunity it presents us all. They discuss how communities through their own actions often rise to the top when they are threatened. They explore the role of hope in creating new opportunities at an individual, community and an organisational level and lead into next weeks convo on how to employ hope based narratives to create change without landing in Walt Disney World.

Dig a little deeper.

Sustaining Hope in Uncertain Times

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Convo 25: Choice of medium shapes our sense of connection

Tue, 15 Mar 2022 18:55:01 GMT

Joe and Pat continue the discussion on connection by examining how our choice of media shapes our discourse. They turn their attention to exploring modes of connection, knowledge and discussion. The two examine how both online and offline modes can facilitate either a sense of connection or alienation.

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Convo 24: Connection via emotion

Tue, 08 Mar 2022 18:55:18 GMT

Joe and Pat stand up and dig into how our sense of connection is shaped by our emotional availability. They explore the role that emotional context plays in enhancing or detracting from our sense of connection. The two look into how medium shapes the emotional experience and whether digital can every truly replace the physical.

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Convo 23: Connection

Tue, 01 Mar 2022 18:55:29 GMT

In the first of a deep dive into connection Pat and Joe sit on the invasion of Ukraine and turn their attention from conflict to connection, assessing what it takes to truly connect with another in the new world. The two ask each other what has been changing over time in our ability to connect and truly hear where another person is coming from.

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Convo 22: Conflict with Connection

Tue, 22 Feb 2022 18:55:30 GMT

Join in as Joe and Pat wrap up their convos on conflict. They unpack their key takeaways on how conflict is used as a narrative structure and a handy lens through which to view human interactions. They conclude the deep dive by discussing the startling truth that in a world now shaped by more and more conflict we are responding by pushing further and further into our digital foxholes where we can practice conflict avoidance. Oh dear.

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Convo 21: Conflict - Character vs Character

Fri, 11 Feb 2022 03:16:11 GMT

Joe and Pat dive into one of the main driving, motivating and classically entertaining narrative structures, conflict between character vs character. The two dissect the narrative structure how it interacts with our value alignments as communities, societies and humanity at large. With a telling realisation that we live in an age where mass consumption of the narrative conflict between character vs character exists. The two explore why this is the case and ask if it will ever not be so.

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Convo 20: Conflict with nature

Tue, 08 Feb 2022 18:00:21 GMT

Pat and Joe get under the hood of humanities conflict with nature. Joe shares his hatred of leaves and they discuss how our dynamic with nature get framed with fear of the unknown rather than awe of the omnipresent. The boys step through the conflict at a personal, societal and technological level and examine whether in an age of rising temps and seas is our narrative evolving at all.

Dig deeper.

Fantastic Fungi, trailer

100 yeas from now, a letter from the past

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Convo 19: Conflict with self

Tue, 01 Feb 2022 18:00:36 GMT

Joe and Pat kick on into 2022 with a series of convos on conflict. They will explore the different types of conflicts that exist, interrogating their use, relevance and nuances. In this convo they look deep into each other's jaundiced covid eyes and explore the essence of being human, the conflict within oneself. Get your ears around some honest assessment of the good, the bad and the ugly of the inner worlds of your intrepid podcasters.

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Convo 18: Divided or together?

Mon, 24 Jan 2022 20:58:15 GMT

We’re back. Joe and Pat re-group for 2022, stripping the past two years bare to see how it has effected community cohesion at a micro and meta level. Leveraging Joe's fresh international travel perspective and Pat’s Schanck based Summer to shine some light outside of the algorithm of rage and examine what has changed in the way we interact as a community over the past two years.

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Convo 17: Creating meaning

Thu, 23 Dec 2021 00:51:16 GMT

On the last episode for 2021, Joe and Pat look at ways to which we can create meaning in the workplace and at home, while interrogating the very word itself. The two wrap up the year on a note that often it is the challenges to which make life meaningful and its how we confront those challenges that define us over time, in and out of work.

Happy holidays, we will be back at the end of January 2022.

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Convo 16: The Talent is starting to win.

Tue, 14 Dec 2021 22:23:26 GMT

Join in our 4th convo on the future of work we look how the pendulum is swinging back in favour of individual talent and away from larger corporates. The boys look at how organisations are adapting to a new landscape where they have stand for something more than career progression and economic incentives to attract today's best and brightest.

Dig Deeper.

https://hbr.org/sponsored/2021/04/thriving-in-the-future-of-work-means-focusing-on-your-people

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Convo 15: Is salary everything in the future of work?

Tue, 07 Dec 2021 18:00:39 GMT

In this third convo on the future of work, Joe and Pat look to different ways the working contract is being re-imagined as business and organisations look to attract and retain 'good workers' in a global environment that is migrating to digital at speed. The two interrogate what really motivates people now and into the future to continue to work.They pull apart what organisation structures and approaches to risk allows for meaningful work to exist in, around and outside any organisation.

Dig deeper:

https://www.afr.com/work-and-careers/workplace/one-expert-s-top-5-predictions-for-the-future-of-work-20210719-p58b0q

PWC report:

https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/services/people-organisation/publications/workforce-of-the-future.html

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Convo 14: Future of work. Flexibility and value alignment

Tue, 30 Nov 2021 18:00:57 GMT

Join Joe and Pat as they dig deeper into the future landscape of employment. They look at where value can be found, earned and created in the new era of digital, from both an employees and employers perspective and they spit ball different structures and work ecosystems that are disrupting the traditional social contract of work.

Dig deeper:

Other Internet ethnography on Uniswap community

https://otherinternet.notion.site/Uniswap-Research-Report-Discord-Governance-Community-eb545f60b0ba4c30af066ca1a855e0fe

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Convo 13: Future of Work

Tue, 23 Nov 2021 18:00:00 GMT

Join us as Pat and Joe start another multi part convo on the future of work. They examine the key long term trends changing the way we work, how employees and employers need to reimagine how they commit to one another and what this means for the area of employer branding as employers seek to align to new behaviour and signal shared values.

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Convo 12: Who Controls the Narrative

Tue, 16 Nov 2021 19:00:05 GMT

Join us as Joe and Pat have a rollercoaster of a conversation about who controls the narrative and who is aware of it. The two look into what it means to be a publisher, push each other to look past what is said to who is saying it and explore the role each individual must play in the attention economy.

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Convo 11: Markets as Narrative

Tue, 09 Nov 2021 19:00:44 GMT

Back on board and on point after Pats paternity leave, the boys dive deep into the concept of how markets a re driven by narratives. We explore how narratives move prices, sentiment and shape culture. The two discuss the cycles that exist within any market and the implications of the new narrative contradicting or challenging the old one. Join us, Its a Pearler

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Convo 10: Narrative of place

Thu, 21 Oct 2021 01:14:22 GMT

Join us as Pat and Joe dive into how place is often the hidden protagonist in shaping human narratives. They review how colonial ideas of place are changing fast and examine how the new narrative of looking after rather than taking possession of place is shifting our cultural and commercial norms.

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Convo 9: How to manage a narrative

Tue, 12 Oct 2021 19:06:17 GMT

Join us as Pat and Joe dive into what happens to narratives over time. In this convo they ask they explore how narratives evolve, how they grow and how they end. They lay out some rules for how to create a narrative, manage the legacy of a narrative when it dies and what do you do with the body.

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Convo 8: Narrative Theory

Tue, 05 Oct 2021 20:48:56 GMT

Join us as Pat and Joe dissect the purpose of narrative and its application in building communities and strong communication strategies. The convo explores what constitutes a narrative, how it can be captured via the tools of branding and how do you build a sustaining narrative that enables forward momentum for an organisation.

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Convo 7: Stories are Exchanges

Tue, 28 Sep 2021 21:25:44 GMT

Join Joe and Pat for the first of our convos on storytelling. In this episode they peel back the layers of story to see what is really held in the exchange between teller and listener. We examine how stories shape our experience, inform our views and are the part of the secret sauce of humanity.

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Convo 6: Who is responsible

Tue, 21 Sep 2021 21:20:16 GMT

In the final installment of our deep dive into the role of media we discuss the balance of responsibility between the individual who consumes it and the creators who make it. Pat and Joe assess old and new media, how past media revolutions have parallels to what is happening today and some simple ways to understand how to consume media without losing your own compass.

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Convo 5: Media enters its community age

Tue, 14 Sep 2021 21:31:08 GMT

Join in the third part of the discussion on the good, the evil and the in-between of media. In this weeks convo we explore the emerging role of community as the main moderator of digital media, how the value exchange has changed over time between consumer and producer and dig into who really owns our eyes in the attention economy.

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Convo 4: Stories Create Advantage

Tue, 07 Sep 2021 23:44:38 GMT

Join in the second part of our discussion on media exploring the role that community plays as the centre in a media landscape of small and large players. Joe and Pat explore how communities now act as narrators, sources of truth and how compelling stories told well can create advantage for all.

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Convo 3: Media who

Wed, 01 Sep 2021 01:15:45 GMT

Joe and Patrick sit down, screen to screen and asses the media of today. They explore how in a digital age Media is being reshaped by the competing forces of framing and fragmentation. They explore how we have moved from The News to News and how Community has become the new source of defacto truth

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Convo 2: Status Quo is changing

Tue, 24 Aug 2021 21:38:22 GMT

In our latest installment of BAU we explore the current Covid context and the future of education. Joe and Patrick turn their attention to examining what really lies behind the silk curtain of traditional edu, the start ups approaching skill development differently, the two parallels with the aviation and automotive sectors and what is next as the category dynamics change.

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Convo 1: What to do?

Wed, 18 Aug 2021 04:38:45 GMT

In our new ongoing segment BaU puts their creative minds into how Government could approach our Climate Emergency. Joe and Pat look at where Government policy sits under ScoMo (Aus government of the time), how to best brand a path forward to Net Zero and what type of narrative will best shape behaviour change.

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Picking up on the origins of Patrick and PUR

Tue, 10 Aug 2021 22:22:34 GMT

As part of BAU reboot and on the eve of lockdown 6.0, we turn the tables. Joe attempts to interview the master questioner Patrick Beggs on all things storytelling. We cover how Pat tells data stories through the eyes of the community who created it, how he views the role of content in building connection and the origins of Picking Up Rocks or as we all know it Pur Productions

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Momentum is everything

Tue, 03 Aug 2021 23:14:36 GMT

Patrick and Joe discuss new beginnings by going back in time. In our BaU reboot episode Patrick interviews Joe on how he started his business, The Contenders. We chat what made him jump on the wave and we untangle a method for sticking the takeoff and what it takes to sustain success

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We are back

Tue, 27 Jul 2021 22:07:35 GMT

As Covid of the delta kind has been reeking havoc around the world across the world we have been busy dealing with its consequences. We are now back with some reflections and a renewed focus on observing and discussing the topics that are changing the way we think interact and transact. See you next week

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Is life naturally full of inequality or is it made unequal through our actions?

Tue, 18 May 2021 20:38:33 GMT

Joe and Patrick set out the three questions that they each will pose to an expert. We hope to explore the history of inequality in Australia, how we should define it, how to measure it, has tech and the pandemic made it worse and is it about more than economic opportunity? Share your queries and join us next time when we pose these questions and more to an expert in the field.

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Inequality, what does it mean?

Tue, 04 May 2021 23:56:54 GMT

Joe and Patrick begin their deep dive into what Inequality means in a Covid riddled world, they address the unequal elephant in the room and look forward to what they can do in re-framing the conversation in this four part deep dive.

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True Reflections on Data Storytelling

Tue, 27 Apr 2021 23:08:56 GMT

On a windy day up on the Cape, Pat and Joe reflect on what they have learned across their deep dive into the emerging world of Data Storytelling.

They discuss whether it builds myth or breaks it, examine if data has bias or just the humans that interpret it and close with an exploration of what subject they will deep dive into next.

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Ask an expert. Telling stories with data

Wed, 14 Apr 2021 00:45:13 GMT

Join Joe Rogers and Patrick Beggs for an in depth conversation with Alli Torban on all things data visualisation. We discuss what it is, why it works, how to understand your bias and manage the gap between your source and the needs of your audience to communicate insight.

Alli is an Information Design Consultant based in Washington, D.C., and host of the podcast Data Viz Today <https://dataviztoday.com/>. She specializes in designing data visualizations and infographics for industry experts to help get their work seen and understood by a wider audience. In her spare time, Alli has fun creating whimsical patterns and tessellations!

Favorite data visualizations from Alli

* Very cool narrative chart by NYT:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/01/26/opinion/sunday/paths-to-congress.html

* Stunning bivariate choropleth by Quartz:

https://qz.com/1008167/map-donald-trumps-mean-mean-mean-health-care-bill-is-meanest-to-his-most-crucial-voters

Resources on data sonification

Podcast https://www.loudnumbers.net/

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Data storytelling or stories told with Data?

Tue, 06 Apr 2021 23:14:27 GMT

Joe and Patrick discuss whether Data is myth busting or myth building, share what they have found to date and frame their three questions each for next weeks guest Alli Torban

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What is data storytelling?

Tue, 30 Mar 2021 21:43:08 GMT

Patrick and Joe dig into defining what it is, why it matters and what we would like to learn. Join in for a discussion of whether myths and beliefs matter, how if Michelangelo was to paint a chapel today would he ask for Non Fungible Tokens in return and why data is turning into our new source of truth.

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Joe's idea, BaU 2.0 explained

Wed, 24 Mar 2021 21:57:36 GMT

Patrick and Joe get on the level with where they are taking BaU 2.0. Deeper dives over four episodes into the subject matter that shapes the way we interact and transact. First up, Data Storytelling.

Follow the guys on youtube as the broadcast

out of PUR Production studios

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The Questioner

Tue, 02 Mar 2021 21:19:13 GMT

Join us for an engaging and in-depth conversation with leading digital governance academic Stefaan G. Verhulst, of NYU’s GovLab where we talk all things data stewardship. We explore who owns your data, how it is governed and how to ask better questions to create a brighter future for us all. Stefaan shares his ‘questioneerring’ framework and points out how we must move from being data rich to decision driven by data, to move past the polarisation in our public lives. He also offers insights into the more pressing issues of 2021 and data, its governance and its use in innovation and problem solving.

Stefaan G. Verhulst is Co-Founder and Chief Research and Development Officer of the Governance Laboratory (The GovLab) at New York University (NYU), an action research centre focused on improving governance using advances in science and technology - including data and collective intelligence.

He is also, among other positions and affiliations, the Editor-in-Chief of Data & Policy, an open access journal by Cambridge University Press; the research director of the MacArthur Research Network on Opening Governance; Chair of the Data for Children Collaborative with Unicef; and a member of the High-Level Expert Group to the European Commission on Business-to-Government Data Sharing.

Further resources relevant to the conversation

The Need for a New Science of Questioning (to complement Data Science https://the100questions.org/
Radically transforming the public debate on data → https://thedataassembly.org/
A new Intelligence Paradigm for Development → https://theconversation.com/a-new-intelligence-paradigm-how-the-emerging-use-of-technology-can-achieve-sustainable-development-if-done-responsibly-154984
Data for Covid 19 → https://data4covid19.org/

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The Bridge

Tue, 16 Feb 2021 22:10:58 GMT

Join us for a conversation with hosts Joe Rogers and Patrick Beggs as they reflect on the year that was and the year that will be.

They lay their experiences bear and share thoughts on some of the hurdles that change makers will face in the coming year, as well as discuss the power of listening as an action towards change.

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Gardening for the future

Tue, 22 Dec 2020 10:52:51 GMT

Join us for a conversation with Nic Rose, CEO of Sustain, as he takes us into the incredible survey of the Australian Gardner. With over 9,000 respondents, the survey collectively captures what it means to have access to soil to toil.

Nic is a believer in the power of relationships and networks to move mountains, transform societies and change the course of history.

“My goal,” he explains, “is to work collaboratively with individuals and organisations who share the vision of fair, sustainable and resilient food systems.”

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Investor in Creativity

Tue, 08 Dec 2020 21:37:14 GMT

Join us for a conversation with Dr Craig Batty, the incoming Dean of Research: Creative at the University of South Australia, as we ask why it’s more important than ever to invest in creativity and culture. We discuss the re-rise of the creative class, why we all need spaces and places to be creative, and the role of the creative arts in innovation and progress.

Craig is the author, co-author and editor of fifteen books; and has been published widely on the topics of screenwriting practice, screenwriting theory, creative practice research and creative doctorates. Craig is also a screenwriter, script consultant and script editor, with experiences in short film, feature film, television and online drama.

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Financial You

Tue, 01 Dec 2020 23:09:44 GMT

Join us for a conversation with Award-winning journalist and former supervising producer of the hit ABC podcast Ladies, We Need To Talk, Cassandra Steeth.

Cass is now a mission to help women to financial independence in her new role as senior writer for Verve Super, a feminist, ethical superannuation company.

Cass speaks to us about how we must find new ways to bridge the gap in financial gender inequality, why co contribution is a must do conversation between couples and how we can all invest more ethically.

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The change Barometer's

Tue, 24 Nov 2020 22:33:37 GMT

How do you measure change? A conversation with ORS Impact’s CEO Sarah Stachowiak and Senior Consultant Nikki Kalra who join us from Seattle to discuss how in the For Purpose sector it is vital you systematically and cost effectively measure the change you are seeking to make.

We discuss different models, frameworks and end our discussion perhaps on its most important point, deciding the business of change you are in. Are you seeking systemic and long lasting change or incremental short term change?

ORS consulting works across North America with social justice-minded organisations to plan, learn and measure the impact of their work.

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The Internet Gardener

Wed, 18 Nov 2020 21:27:36 GMT

Join our conversation with Tom Critchlow, Co-Founder of Quoteback, a browser tool that allows you to copy and store text quotes as you read content from the Internet.

Tom joins us from amongst the cactus of Arizona to discuss the world of blogging, the emerging field of narrative strategy and how it applies to business, life and politics. Tom outlines how Quoteback is designed to free smaller voices to find other interested individuals and why being able to follow your interests across the Internet is more important today than ever.

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The Ethical Banker

Tue, 10 Nov 2020 19:25:25 GMT

Join our conversation with Corinne Proske, Founder of Speckle, a not-for-profit fintech company, which delivers an ethical alternative to payday lending.

Corrine highlights the importance of understanding how our emotional relationship with money affects our financial and social wellbeing. We discuss how the model of ethical lending outcomes is changing the future of investing and how Australia’s Super Funds are unique in their ability to influence our global future. We finish by taking a look through the data on spending trends in Australia arising out of the COVID pandemic and discover whether Joe will still be able to have a piggybank in a cashless world.

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The Advocate

Wed, 04 Nov 2020 00:59:21 GMT

Join us to for a conversation with Community Activist and ex ABC journo, Margot Foster, who helped lead the charge to create the green heart of Abbotsford by protecting the historic convent from redevelopment.

Margot shares her experience in learning to influence change through not saying a outright no but providing genuine alternatives where all involved can say yes. We speak to Margot about the role of large institutions like the ABC in shaping our cultural norms and her insights into what it takes to create real community change.

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The Questioners

Tue, 27 Oct 2020 21:11:52 GMT

In today's episode we set the scene for the end of 2020. Joe and Patrick don their thinking caps to explore what Covid has unveiled across our cultural, social and economic institutions and whether this is a permanent shift.

They discuss the new barriers to participation and change making that are appearing, the fallacy of predicting tomorrow based on today, and outline the key questions they will be exploring with guests in Season 2 of BAU.

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The Remaker

Wed, 21 Oct 2020 00:11:24 GMT

Join our chat with Craig Middleton, Curator at the National Museum of Australia, Fellow at the The Australian National University and Co Author of Queering the Museum, for a deep dive into remaking what a museum can and could be.

Craig takes us through his groundbreaking work in queering the museum where Queer is used as a verb to drive a more inclusive, reflective and immersive space that reflects the diversity of Australian identity and life.

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The Reformer

Tue, 13 Oct 2020 20:40:27 GMT

Victoria has the highest rate of the removal of children from their birth family in Australia.

Michael Perusco, CEO of Berry Street, joins us for a conversation on why and how we need to shift our thinking away from a system grounded in the late and punitive to one informed by a safety first early intervention model to create a fairer system for families and children. A model that deals with causes, rather than outcomes.

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The Review

Wed, 30 Sep 2020 01:48:53 GMT

Join Joe Rogers and Patrick Beggs to review season one of #BaU. From the lows of figuring out portable pandemic studios to the highs of great guests covering topics such as indigenous rights, dyslexia, community reform, social media as societal kryptonite, and art. Listening to our guest's process has been a big ride and an even bigger privilege. Pearls of wisdom have fallen out of each one of our guests. Our big learning? For real change to occur it takes small incremental steps with consistent sustained effort. Nothing happens overnight, not even a podcast.

A huge thanks to all who joined us

conor hickey, Alasdair MacKinnon, Rebecca Scott, OAM, Judy Atkinson, George Hedon, Enabler of Awesome, Pause Fest, Fiona Armstrong, Simon Goodrich, Madeleine Habib, Dean Starbuck Bragonier, Sam Patterson, Dr Sue Thomas FRSA, Dipayan Ghosh, Scott Cane, Gavin Morris

Hope you have been enjoying the ride as much as we have. Season two starts in a couple of weeks.

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The Referee

Tue, 22 Sep 2020 22:09:32 GMT

Join us for a discussion on truth telling with Dr Gavin Morris, an ex-NRL referee from Sydney who now acts as a leading social referee.

Gavin talks about his involvement in documenting a truth telling in the Nauiyu Community, and the ways in which it enables better community outcomes for its people. He also discusses how the unique approach, methodology and intention shaped his doctorate thesis, which investigates the trauma associated with the experience of colonisation in an Aboriginal community. Finally, Gavin discusses two decades of teaching experience in schools around Australia.

Gavin lives in Darwin and

currently lecturers in undergraduate and postgraduate programs in the College

of Education at Charles Darwin University.

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The Curiosity Surfer

Wed, 16 Sep 2020 00:42:41 GMT

Scott Cane, one of the drivers of Australia’s first native title case, joins us from Port Lincoln for an uplifting chat about his approach to life and advice on how to grow through failure.

Scott is a self-professed surf bum whose curiosity and trust in following his nose for waves has led him through the wilds of Tasmania, to Australian National University to ensuring Aboriginal Australians are rightfully recognised as the true custodians of this land.

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The Anti Distruptor

Tue, 08 Sep 2020 23:39:11 GMT

This week we hear from Dipayan Ghosh, Harvard fellow, White House Alum and Author of Terms of Disservice: How Silicon Valley is Destructive by Design.

We talk about the effect that the monopoly held by big tech from facebook to Amazon has had on our lives and how we have unwittingly traded our privacy for utility. We explore how we are heading from a democratic era and rapidly into a Dystopian digital future free of meaningful discourse. Dipayan also shares his view on the odds of this changing and what we as individuals and communities need to know and do. You can find out more on Dipayan’s work here

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The Inclusionista.

Wed, 02 Sep 2020 03:40:47 GMT

Join us as Dr Sue Thomas FRSA educates from a surprisingly

sunny Scotland us on how the ethics of fashion is underpinned by the choices we make as customers in response to what we design into our consumption.

Sue takes us behind the scenes of the content she developed when teaching as part of her pioneering MSc Ethics in Fashion for the School of Textiles and Design ethics. Today Sue continues her work turning up the heat up on how the conversation around inclusion, sustainability and industry ethics must change and how some businesses are leading the way.

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The Conduit

Tue, 25 Aug 2020 23:11:53 GMT

Sam Patterson joins us to discuss about building connections inside communities at

risk through the power of story.

Sam is the Director of Community Engagement at MacKillop Family Services and shares his approach to creating the connection between funding the cause and the direct delivery of the service. We talk all things home schooling, the challenges ahead for foster care and why horse trainers tell such great tales.

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Notice Ability

Wed, 19 Aug 2020 01:16:21 GMT

Dean Bragonier, founder and the executive dyslexic at NoticeAbility, shares his story of changing the way society understands dyslexia through changing its approach to educating children with Dyslexia.

Dean joins us from Cambridge, Massachusetts to discuss the neuroscience of dyslexia, the educational approach required and the work left to be done. Dean inform us on the history of dyslexia, why standardised testing sucks and share the stories of some famous dyslexics throughout our history.

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Power of Voice

Thu, 06 Aug 2020 22:56:21 GMT

Madeleine Habib joins us from a wintry Tasmania to offer a timely reminder not to underestimate the power of your own voice in enacting the change you want to see in the world.

Madeleine is a Master Mariner who has lived a life of service to humanitarian and environmental causes from the shores of the Mediterranean to the coastline of Antartica. Working on the front lines with SOS Méditeranée, Sea Shepherd, Greenpeace, MSF and the World Food Program has given her a unique perspective into effecting real world change, one person and one

action at a time. Be the change, Be the voice.

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The Painter of Perspective

Wed, 29 Jul 2020 01:08:49 GMT

Glen McMinn offers his refreshing perspective on travelling openly through the arc of life. Glen has been many things, architect, designer, historian, hockey dad, entrepreneur and now a painter exploring a concept called 10 of 1. Through it all he has been Dyslexic, which he speaks openly about, and he calls aspects of he views as a superpower.

Join us as Glen takes us through his story of focus empowering people, communities and organisations to share their own tale.

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Purpose Design

Tue, 21 Jul 2020 21:44:13 GMT

Simon Goodrich is the Co-Founder of Portable, a digital innovation company that helps forward thinking organisations to transform the way they work.

Over the past five years, Simon and the team at Portable have been hacking the bureaucracy, helping solve some of the technological discrimination in usability and accessibility in the digital world.

Simon sits on the Health Informatics Society of Australia, the digital health peak body, National Committee, leading their Innovation portfolio. He is the Australian Ambassador for the New York-based International Academy of Digital Arts and Sciences, the team behind the Webby Awards and is an active mentor in the Melbourne University Accelerator Program, supporting innovative start ups.

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Climate Health

Wed, 15 Jul 2020 01:54:32 GMT

Fiona Armstrong is a social entrepreneur, public policy expert and researcher, author, and reform advocate whose qualifications and experience span a range of disciplines and sectors. She is a global leader in the area of climate and health advocacy and has conceived and led a number of internationally significant projects in this area.

She is the Founder and Executive Director of the Climate and Health Alliance

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The Innovator

Mon, 06 Jul 2020 08:32:07 GMT

We sat down with George Hedon to see where their head is at with COVID19.

George is the founder and CEO of the world's leading creativity infused business event - Pause Fest, an independent, industry-driven movement with a mission to bring diverse intelligence together to fuel the next generation forward.

We wanted to hear of what opportunities they can see and to hear of the hurdles they facing in dealing with the changing social landscape of mass gatherings.

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The healer, The Listener

Tue, 16 Jun 2020 04:26:52 GMT

Judy Atkinson shares her remarkable story of following her own path to leaning, understanding and healing.

Judy Atkinson identifies as a Jiman / Bundjalung (Aboriginal Australian) woman who also has Anglo-Celtic, and German heritage. Judy is a Emeritus Professor.

She holds a BA from the University of Canberra, and a PhD from Queensland University of Technology. She is also a graduate of the Harvard University course, Program for Refugee Trauma – Global Mental Health Trauma and Recovery. Her primary academic and research focus is in the area of violence and relational trauma, and healing for Indigenous, and indeed all peoples. She developed the We Al-li program which was used as a foundation stone for the Masters in Indigenous Studies (wellbeing); the undergraduate degree Trauma and Healing, and the Diploma of Community Recovery.

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The Futurist

Tue, 16 Jun 2020 04:26:32 GMT

Bec Scott, the futurist, shares her story.

Bec is not afraid to walk their own path. She lives most of her time imagining potential futures, learning from the history around her and applying that knowledge to bring her dreams into reality.

Bec Scott, co-founder of STREAT, is a passionate social entrepreneur working to address complex environmental and social issues.

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The Artist

Tue, 16 Jun 2020 04:26:10 GMT

Alasdair is one of the driving forces behind The Boroughs, recognised for its role in telling the story of Brunswick East. It has played a central role in the creation of a community focused on art, design and sustainability.

Their store is famous for its work with local makers and being the retail expression of neighbourhood and community.

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Conor Hickey

Tue, 16 Jun 2020 04:25:51 GMT

In this conversation we get to hear the story of Conor Hickey.

She is the CEO at Collingwood Children’s Farm, the oldest continued practicing farm in Victoria, Australia. Conor with a background in inclusive education through community connections has a passion for hands-on learning in nature and her story demonstrates the benefits of the approach and process for creating inclusive, vibrant, productive and diverse communities.

We ask her, what path did she take to get to where she is today?

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The Start

Sat, 06 Jun 2020 00:21:06 GMT

Joe Rogers and Patrick Beggs, the hosts, talking about the podcast project, BaU, before it was what it is today.

The conversation is the first time the two put microphones in front of their faces, before any guests had been interviewed, offering an honest glimpse into the thinking behind the concept.

Joe is famous for crafting brands which deliver results for those who work for them, shop for them and support them.

He is the CEO and Co-Founder of The Contenders, a brand and business design Consultancy based in Melbourne and Sydney.

Patrick is the founder and MD of PUR Production, a production house creating media that strengthens culture. Creating inclusive, diverse and vibrant media. A specialised studio renowned for finding and defining Story Community.

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