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Kirsty Prince was working for Corrections New South Wales as a Junior Corrections Officer when she received a picture on her mobile from her supervisor of his genitalia. The picture was also sent to four children, one being 9yo. He tried the sympathy vote with "Its going to kill my wife, I've been very stressed, it was a mistake or I'll lose my job if you tell anyone". But Kirsty was having none of it. Kirsty believed she'd be supported & the matter would be investigated. It WAS investigated & somehow, Corrections NSW decided to reinstate her supervisor without ever consulting her.

Support Services include:

Whistleblower Project (protecting & empowering Whistleblowers) @ the Human Rights Law Centre E: admin@hrlc.org.au

Lifeline: 13 11 14 Text 0477 13 11 14

Police: 000

1800 RESPECT 1800 737 732

Victims of Crime: 1800 819 817

Community Legal Centres: 9652 1501

Worksafe (Advisor) 1800 136 089

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SCOTT BARRY HAWKEN was able to hide behind a Suppression Order for years but that order has now been lifted & Leanne Farrugia is determined to highlight the injustices she has faced & the battles she is still fighting. HAWKEN was found guilty at trial & incarcerated for sexual offences committed upon Leanne but how can it be fair that Leanne's Workcover payments didn't come close to her actual wage, yet HAWKEN was on full pay for years until he faced court? It just seems so terribly wrong.

Support Services include;

BeyondBlue: 1300 224 636

DV Connect Women's Line: 1800 811 811

Lifeline: 131 114

1800 Respect National Helpline: 1800 737 732

Suicide Call Back Service: 1300 659 467

Sexual Assault Crisis Line: 1800 806 292

Casa (Centre Against Sexual Assault) 1800 806 292

If you have just been sexually assaulted - ring 000

Police Assistance Line: 131 444 (for non-urgent crimes)

Victims of Crime: 1800 819 817

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Notes:

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'Crypto Queen; You are a Mark' is available through 'amazon.com.au', Dymocks & is available on audiobooks, kindle etc.

You can also order copies of her book through www.Xlibris.com.au Ph: 1800 844 927

Pati refers to the book Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion by Dr Robert Cialdini which helped her understand how she had been deceived

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Kids Helpline 1800 55 1800

Blue Knot Foundation 1300 657 380 for survivors of complex trauma

1800 RESPECT 1800 737 732 for sexual assault, domestic & family violence

Australian Centre to Counter Child Exploitation 1800 272 831 support to those affected by child sexual abuse

The Orange Door for the wellbeing of children & young people

Safesteps 1800 015 188

Victims of Crime 1800 819 817 or text 0427 767 891

Rainbow Door 1800 729 367 specialist advicer for LGBTIQA people, their friends & family

Child Protection 13 12 78

Sexual Assault Crisis Line 1800 806 292

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Melanie has been drawn to helping those in trouble since she was a teenager. Prior to joining NSW Police, she was a volunteer at her local (NSW) Rescue Squad (part of the Volunteer Rescue Association) & after being part of the rescue effort @ the Thredbo Ski Village disaster in 1997,policing was her obvious next step. Mel retired after dealing with the consequences of a silly decision she made but which many of us might consider also, given the same circumstances. Even after Policing, Mel still helps save people in distress through the Good Samaritan App - something Victoria needs desperately.. .. .

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Show Notes:

Kris provides training on Behavioural Threat Assessment and Management topics to government agencies, law enforcement, schools, and businesses, including Preventing Violence through recognition of the Pathway to Targeted Violence, Identifying the Warning Signs for Imminent Violence, Violence Risk Factors, Triaging Violence Risk Cases, Establishing Threat Assessment Teams, and Formulating Personal Safety Plans. She also presents and consults on cases of Stalking, Domestic Violence, Homicide, and in the context of violence prevention Mass Casualty Attacks.

Kris can be reached through her website: www.krisillingsworth.com

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Kris provides training on Behavioural Threat Assessment and Management topics to government agencies, law enforcement, schools, and businesses, including Preventing Violence through recognition of the Pathway to Targeted Violence, Identifying the Warning Signs for Imminent Violence, Violence Risk Factors, Triaging Violence Risk Cases, Establishing Threat Assessment Teams, and Formulating Personal Safety Plans. She also presents and consults on cases of Stalking, Domestic Violence, Homicide, and in the context of violence prevention Mass Casualty Attacks.

Kris can be reached through her website: www.krisillingsworth.com

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In the next 2 part interview with Mel we discuss her abduction & rape when she was only 9yo & how it took her 41yrs to share the trauma. We do not detail the sexual assault but what she shares is disturbing enough. Mel decided to do some googling in 2019 & what she found shocked her to the core. When she learned the man she'd never given herself permission to think much about was applying for parole after having served 33+ years for brutal sexual assaults & murder in the U.K, she couldn't keep it a secret anymore.

Support Services include;

Lifeline 13 11 14

MensLine Australia 1300 78 99 78

1800 Respect 1800 737 732

Bravehearts 1800 272 831

Blue Knot Helpline 1300 657 380

Beyond Blue 1300 224 636

Kids Helpline 1800 551 800

13 YARN 13 92 76

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Lifeline 13 11 14

Beyond Blue 1300 224 636

Kids Helpline 1800 551 800

13 YARN 13 92 76

1800 RESPECT 1800 737 732 (incl National Violence, Abuse & Trauma Counselling & Recovery Service)

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Support Services include;

Lifeline 13 11 14

Beyond Blue 1300 224 636

Kids Helpline 1800 551 800

13 YARN 13 92 76

1800 RESPECT 1800 737 732 (incl National Violence, Abuse & Trauma Counselling & Recovery Service)

Don't Be That Man 1300 243 413

Mens Referral Service 1300 766 491

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Leanne experienced violence at 13yo & then battled through multiple sexual assaults, homelessness, addiction, and the overwhelming

weight of hopelessness and helplessness. Yet, against all odds, she found true love, rebuilt her life, and achieved a postgraduate qualification in

mental health. Now a registered counsellor, teacher, and lecturer, Leanne uses her lived experience to help change the mindset of violent male perpetrators with some positive results.

Support Services include;

Lifeline 13 11 14

Beyond Blue 1300 224 636

Kids Helpline 1800 551 800

13 YARN 13 92 76

1800 RESPECT 1800 737 732 (incl National Violence, Abuse & Trauma Counselling & Recovery Service)

Don't Be That Man 1300 243 413

Mens Referral Service 1300 766 491

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John joined Victoria Police at 24 and he never knew anything else for nearly 32yrs - until just short of his 55th birthday. His first 10-12 yrs were spent Policing in Melbourne but then an opportunity arose for him to return to his roots in Rochester as a local Policeman. By then he’d met the love of his life Fiona and had a family. Their support of him and his career has never wavered and its one of the main reasons he was able to do what he loved for so long. A Police person’s family have to endure and absorb much of the daily highs & lows and challenges of incidents they are exposed to, however they feel and see the results. Fiona, Ben and Tara are no different.

Being a country cop has many challenges a city cop doesn’t face – they often work one-up (alone) and attend incidents which involve people they know, maybe they grew up with, went to school with …..and yes, even family. And what about their social life? Everywhere they go, they are the local cop and I’d imagine its rare someone wouldn’t ask them something Police related. But opposed to that are the many advantages – of being present for all his kids & family celebrations and significant events.

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John joined Victoria Police at 24 and he never knew anything else for nearly 32yrs -  until just short of his 55th birthday. His first 10-12 yrs were spent Policing in Melbourne but then an opportunity arose for him to return to his roots in Rochester as a local Policeman. By then he’d met the love of his life Fiona and had a family. Their support of him and his career has never wavered and its one of the main reasons he was able to do what he loved for so long. A Police person’s family have to endure and absorb much of the daily highs & lows and challenges of incidents they are exposed to, however they feel and see the results. Fiona, Ben and Tara are no different.

Being a country cop has many challenges a city cop doesn’t face – they often work one-up (alone) and attend incidents which involve people they know, maybe they grew up with, went to school with …..and yes, even family. And what about their social life? Everywhere they go, they are the local cop and I’d imagine its rare someone wouldn’t ask them something Police related. But opposed to that are the many advantages – of being present for all his kids & family celebrations and significant events.

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I thought I might explain a little about the amazing, incredibly difficult but necessary work the ACCCE do, which I’m not sure, but I think they used to be what I knew as JACET – Joint Anti Child Exploitation Team. 

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Painting became his passion and Policing began to take a back seat. Bags loved being totally absorbed in what he was painting where he thought of nothing else. Knowing very little about art & its history, Bags educated himself through reading books, listening to arty CD’s and when he eventually retired from Policing, the transition to Painter was smooth sailing.

Bags is now a renowned landscape and seascape painter, is an exhibiting member on the Council of the Victorian Artists Society, the Watercolor Society of Victorian, the Australian Guild of Realist Artists and the Contemporary Art Society & National Vice President and Treasurer of the Australian Society of Marine Artists to name a few.

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TODAY I WANTED TO TALK MORE ABOUT STRANGULATION IN A DV SENSE, NOT WHAT SOME MAY DEEM PLEASURABLE. TODAY IS ABOUT THOSE WHO STRANGLE AS A FORM OF CONTROL, AS A FORM OF FEAR, USED AS A THREAT WHICH WE CALL NON FATAL STRANGULATION

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What Esther was confronted with is often difficult listening, but they are stories which need to be told, to help in understanding the situations Police are so often confronted with in their quest to keep us all safe and assist in convicting those who have no concept or care of that safety we seek.

Esther shares an amazing insight into some of the more memorable crime scenes she attended and the toll those crimes scenes eventually took upon her, particularly when a contract was put on her life, such was her level of knowledge and expertise.

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Parole was a much talked about subject back in 2023 when there was a possibility Paul Charles Denyer could be released from prison after 30yrs behind bars for the brutal, sadistic murders of 3 young innocent women.

This was a patreon episode where I explain a little about the parole system, the role of The Parole Board and Community Corrections Victoria in assessing whether someone is suitable for release into the community or too high a risk to community safety.

I then share some of my thoughts on Paul Denyer and his obsession with vulnerable women and my hope he is NEVER released.

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Rosie’s trans daughter Marjorie (who has since passed away due to kidney disease) alleged horrific sexual abuse during custodial sentences she served in a Tasmanian prison for shoplifting, bail breaches and other relatively minor offences. Rosie states the prison ignored protocols and procedures regarding transgender, transexual and Intersex prisoners, in placing Marjorie in a male prison. ‘Marjorie’s Law’ is Rosie’s campaign to highlight the inadequacies of prison systems which ignore basic human rights such as dignity and respect and her wish for better recognition and protection of transgender people in Australia’s prison services

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The majority of Leith’s work is advising workplaces leaders on psychosocial risk mitigation. This includes industries with workers routinely exposed to potentially traumatic material or events safety finding more rigorous ways to mitigate risks to their workers. There is increasing expectations under elevated WH&S legislation to respond to risks in a more systemic way. In saying that, I feel we may have gone to the other extreme as managers often feel unsure or hesitate in acknowledging someone may not be coping, for fear of being accused of delving into someone’s personal life safety overstepping their responsibilities.

I’m looking forward to drilling down with Leith in relation to the tendency of many to blame violent or aggressive actions on ‘mental health’, helping people to understand the difference between mental illness and mental health safety how the term “mental health issues” is becoming over-used safety often misunderstood.

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The majority of Leith’s work is advising workplaces leaders on psychosocial risk mitigation. This includes industries with workers routinely exposed to potentially traumatic material or events safety finding more rigorous ways to mitigate risks to their workers. There is increasing expectations under elevated WH&S legislation to respond to risks in a more systemic way. In saying that, I feel we may have gone to the other extreme as managers often feel unsure or hesitate in acknowledging someone may not be coping, for fear of being accused of delving into someone’s personal life safety overstepping their responsibilities.

I’m looking forward to drilling down with Leith in relation to the tendency of many to blame violent or aggressive actions on ‘mental health’, helping people to understand the difference between mental illness and mental health safety how the term “mental health issues” is becoming over-used safety often misunderstood. 

Saying someone has “mental health issues” which caused them to perpetrate a violent crime seems to Leith, to be overly simplistic.

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But underneath that façade was a man crumbling big time. He was hiding so many fears, insecurities, anxieties and alcohol dependency and for those like me who knew and worked with him, it came as a huge shock to learn about “the real Tim”. 

Tim’s highly decorated career shattered and came to an abrupt, dramatic end when he crashed his police car whilst drunk, abusing those members who attended the scene, and then caught a train to regional Victoria to end a life he couldn’t face anymore. He believed his family, friends & everyone else would be better off without him.

Somehow Tim crawled out of this black hole. In his recently released book, ‘The Invisible Obvious’, Tim takes us through the mess he made of his life & the challenges he faced in trying to resurrect that mess. 

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She teaches not only kids but parents, carers, teachers, Police – anyone who has anything to do with children. She discusses for instance, consent, how to recognise sexualised behaviours, talking to kids about behaviours which make them feel uncomfortable, who to tell and how.  

She teaches how to start a conversation with a child or young person about abuse so that it doesn’t frighten them, why using the correct words for our body parts is so important and why it is imperative parents and others learn as much as they can through classes/sessions and forums about what their kids are being exposed to on the net.

Holly Ann shares some alarming stats through her teachings, one being 2/3 of 8yo’s tell her they go online when their parents go to sleep!! It doesn’t pay to sleep does it!! 

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She teaches not only kids but parents, carers, teachers, Police – anyone who has anything to do with children. She discusses for instance, consent, how to recognise sexualised behaviours, talking to kids about behaviours which make them feel uncomfortable, who to tell and how.  

She teaches how to start a conversation with a child or young person about abuse so that it doesn’t frighten them, why using the correct words for our body parts is so important and why it is imperative parents and others learn as much as they can through classes/sessions and forums about what their kids are being exposed to on the net.

Holly Ann shares some alarming stats through her teachings, one being 2/3 of 8yo’s tell her they go online when their parents go to sleep!! It doesn’t pay to sleep does it!!  

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Is it acceptable to place a male identifying as female into a female prison? Who’s human rights are more important – those of say female prisoners who feel threatened by the trans person or the trans person’s wish to be housed with those female prisoners? Is a situation I'd actually never considered but its a real issue within the prison system

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Justice LEE has shown a deep understanding of the ‘humanness’ and complexities of human nature emotions, particularly regarding victims to a crime. He has shown fairness and transparency and has gone to great lengths to explain why he made the decisions he has. It showcases the depth of research and reference, particularly to case laws which assisted him in those decisions he made.  Bottom line is, alone, I feel he’s restored some faith in the community’s confidence in the judiciary.

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Justice LEE has shown a deep understanding of the ‘humanness’ and complexities of human nature emotions, particularly regarding victims to a crime. He has shown fairness and transparency and has gone to great lengths to explain why he made the decisions he has. It showcases the depth of research and reference, particularly to case laws which assisted him in those decisions he made.  Bottom line is, alone, I feel he’s restored some faith in the community’s confidence in the judiciary

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Part 1 of a fascinating interview with a Prison Officer who has worked at every major prison here in Victoria. He wants to improve many aspects including prison officer training and training programs for prisoners.

An amazing insight

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‘Peter’ was a prison officer for 12 years and in that 12 years he saw a lot. 

Part 1 of a fascinating interview with a Prison Officer who has worked at every major prison here in Victoria. He wants to improve many aspects including prison officer training and training programs for prisoners.

An amazing insight

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Charlotte shares with us the torment she endured not only during their marriage but afterwards, the violence, the threats, and the ways in which she says, her partner used his knowledge of the justice system to intimidate and belittle her and ultimately remove her children from her due to what she describes as lies, untruths and false statements in court documents and to the authorities. She also doesn’t hold back with what she thinks of his colleagues who sided with her partner and intimidated and threatened her.  Charlotte isn’t her real name and we’ve changed her voice slightly to protect her and their children.

Then we have Michelle, who’s story is completely different. Michelle’s partner and father of their 4 children, joined the job with a belief he could help others not as fortunate as himself. Michelle noticed a change in her partner’s behavior from the very day he began at the Academy.  His 11yrs with Victoria Police resulted in substantial psychological injuries, to the point he’s been a patient in a psychiatric hospital and not just the once. Their relationship has survived, but it hanged the 2 of them and their kids as well – no one has come out unscathed.  Victoria Police broke him, and nearly broke his family too, but 12 years on, life has found new meaning for him, his wife & family. 

You all know how much I love and miss Victoria Police. but by now I think you’ll know & appreciate there are parts of Victoria Police I will not gloss over and pretend they don’t exist or happen – BECAUSE THEY DO.   The only way we can improve anything in our lives is by sharing the good and the bad and not pretending it’s a perfect world, when it isn’t.  My guests today both contacted me separately, but I felt it was a good opportunity to share that good and the bad. I’m hoping today’s podcast gives those out there who feel they are alone, some encouragement and realization they are NOT alone.

There are so many aspects to the lives my 2 guests with their respective partners which deserve more time than I can give them, but I wanted to give you a taste, an idea of their experiences in an educational, respectful, helpful way, albeit concise. We just address the tip of an iceberg with both my guests.

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Di has been a guest of NFI a few times, and is a strong advocate for law reform regarding stalking legislation and Police response to reports of stalking. She’s lobbied MP’s, organisations & the media in her mission to raise awareness of the offence of Stalking. 

Di’s story is very powerful and has been featured on programs including Australian Story and Insight and 7 of her recommendations she submitted to the Victorian Law Reform Commission’s Stalking enquiry, were accepted. Di’s passion has arisen from somehow surviving a stalker who’s offending was relentless and included humiliation, denigration, fear and terror, not only upon her, but her friends & family. What an incredible woman Di McDonald is. 

Congratulations on your pursuit for a safer community for us all.

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There’s so much I’d love to chat to Sel about today, because, in my podcast and policing world, I’ve heard too many stories of those treated poorly by the court system, particularly in family court matters where the common themes seem to include humiliation, intimidation and feeling demeaned by defence lawyers.

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Rob was asked to select a group of selected people to investigate the potential to introduce Computer Aided Dispatch to the Victoria Police.

Ultimately in 1996 Rob decommissioned D24 at Russell Street and a combined EMS was implemented at the Police Centre (in what was a car park) and at Tally Ho at Burwood.

Rob was initially the Project Manager and at the end the project, after 6 years, was co-ordinator for the estimated cost of around $360m project;

Rob talks about the great team & environment which was created & shares some stories about the evolution including the fact;

·     He was offered a bribe

·     he WITNESSED CORRUPTION

·     the difficulties in POLICE COMMAND NOT UNDERSTANDING THE CONCEPT;

·     THE EVALUATION PROCESS AND POLITICAL INTERFERENCE;

·     BUSINESS CONTINUITY PLANS AND INTERRUPTIONS

·     FALSE ACCUSATION OF INTERGRAPH CAUSING DEATHS

·     FALSE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO THE CORONER

·     DEATH OF A WOMAN AND BABY

·     PERJURY AT THE CORONERS COURT

·     CORRUPTION AT TALLY HO CENTRE

·     The waste of time & resources into a ROYAL COMMISSION

·     MISINFORMATION BY THE MEDIA, PARTICULARLY 3AW

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Tammy Casseslon had it all – or so it appeared.  A carefree, happy childhood, happy upbringing, meets Mr Handsome, Mr Popular, Mr Nice Guy, Mr Life of the Party who also had a carefree happy childhood & happy upbringing. A happy life, right??!!  Tammy & her husband had 2 adorable children and everything just seemed perfect. 

But behind closed doors Tammy didn’t “have it all”.  She was frightened.  Her husband’s behaviour was becoming more unpredictable – his bursts of anger, his yelling, his insults & his threats, not only towards her, but their children.

Mr Handsome had become Mr Narcissist, Mr Abusive, Mr Vindictive, Mr Controlling, Mr Demeaning.   Like so many other survivors of D&FV, Tammy made excuses for his behaviour, not recognising or understanding the seriousness of his increasingly violent behaviour.  It wasn’t until an ill-fated attempt at taking his own life and ending up in hospital, Tammy found the courage to leave.  That’s when she realised his abuse had included financial abuse & discovered their finances were in shatters, non-existent.  He’d kept it secret from her that they had nothing – and Tammy and her children were homeless.  But homelessness was a safer option than staying. 

How does a successful, educated professional woman with a background in counselling, psychology, & teaching become homeless?

Tammy was dragged through the court system where all the games her husband could have played, he did – along with his legal representatives whom she felt belittled and intimidated by.

Tammy’s husband eventually did end his life but left a lot of heartache & “what ifs”.  ‘What if’ they could have tried some type of amicable reconciliation, ‘what if’ their children & their father could have mended some of the damaged relationship, ‘what if’ he’d sought some help – his death became a senseless  void unable to be filled.  All because he refused to seek help. 

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Tammy Casseslon had it all – or so it appeared. A carefree, happy childhood, happy upbringing, meets Mr Handsome, Mr Popular, Mr Nice Guy, Mr Life of the Party who also had a carefree happy childhood & happy upbringing. A happy life, right??!! Tammy & her husband had 2 adorable children & everything just seemed perfect. 

But behind closed doors Tammy didn’t “have it all”. She was frightened. Her husband’s behaviour was becoming more unpredictable – his bursts of anger, his yelling, his insults & his threats, not only towards her, but their children.

Mr Handsome had become Mr Narcissist, Mr Abusive, Mr Vindictive, Mr Controlling, Mr Demeaning.  Like so many other survivors of D&FV, Tammy made excuses for his behaviour, not recognising or understanding the seriousness of his increasingly violent behaviour. It wasn’t until an ill-fated attempt at taking his own life & ending up in hospital, Tammy found the courage to leave. That’s when she realised his abuse had included financial abuse & discovered their finances were in shatters, non-existent. He’d kept it secret from her that they had nothing – & Tammy & her children were homeless. But homelessness was a safer option than staying. 

How does a successful, educated professional woman with a background in counselling, psychology, & teaching become homeless?

Tammy was dragged through the court system where all the games her husband could have played, he did – along with his legal representatives whom she felt belittled & intimidated by.

Tammy’s husband eventually did end his life but left a lot of heartache & “what ifs”. ‘What if’ they could have tried some type of amicable reconciliation, ‘what if’ their children & their father could have mended some of the damaged relationship, ‘what if’ he’d sought some help – his death became a senseless void unable to be filled. All because he refused to seek help.  

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One of the Policeman shot (not once but twice) was Senior Constable Peter Eames, my guest today. Peter was one of the first to arrive at the scene & was attempting to converse with the gunman when he was shot, first in the chest & then in his leg.  Miraculously Peter survived, as did the other 4 Police who were subsequently shot.   This siege remains the single largest number of Police shot in the one incident in Victoria’s history. 

But on talking to Peter, the siege pales into insignificance (would you believe) compared with the trauma and grief he endured in Egypt on 12th January 2006. 

Peter was part of a 90 strong contingent of Australians, made up of police and emergency workers and their friends and relatives, who were on a professional and cultural exchange with Egyptian police, organised through the Egyptian Federation of Victoria and organised twice a year since 1990.

Peter was on a bus which overturned on a desert road around 45k from Cairo where 6 people died, 2 of those being Peter’s B-I-L Mark and nephew Drew. Many more were injured. Peter miraculously survived (again!!) and was taken to Cairo hospital for treatment for broken bones/ribs, cuts and bruises.

Welcome Peter and thanks so much for your time

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One of the Policeman shot (not once but twice) was Senior Constable Peter Eames, my guest today. Peter was one of the first to arrive at the scene & was attempting to converse with the gunman when he was shot, first in the chest & then in his leg.  Miraculously Peter survived, as did the other 4 Police who were subsequently shot.   This siege remains the single largest number of Police shot in the one incident in Victoria’s history. 

But on talking to Peter, the siege pales into insignificance (would you believe) compared with the trauma and grief he endured in Egypt on 12th January 2006. 

Peter was part of a 90 strong contingent of Australians, made up of police and emergency workers and their friends and relatives, who were on a professional and cultural exchange with Egyptian police, organised through the Egyptian Federation of Victoria and organised twice a year since 1990.

Peter was on a bus which overturned on a desert road around 45k from Cairo where 6 people died, 2 of those being Peter’s B-I-L Mark and nephew Drew. Many more were injured. Peter miraculously survived (again!!) and was taken to Cairo hospital for treatment for broken bones/ribs, cuts and bruises.

Welcome Peter and thanks so much for your time

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Always maintaining her innocence, she was initially sentenced to 40yrs in prison (reduced to 30yrs on appeal) however after 2 decades in jail, she was pardoned and in Dec 2023 had her convictions quashed following a judicial inquiry that found there was reasonable doubt with regard to her guilt. That finding was informed by new scientific evidence that had been unavailable at the time of her trial and other crucial evidence relating to Folbigg’s diaries which were presented by the prosecution as akin to confessions.

We’ll chat a little about this case but what I’m more interested in is how Dr Williams feels about the way media cover criminal processes such as Kathleen Folbigg’s trials, how they portray criminals and the influence (and danger) they can have in swaying public opinion.

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Always maintaining her innocence, she was initially sentenced to 40yrs in prison (reduced to 30yrs on appeal) however after 2 decades in jail, she was pardoned and in Dec 2023 had her convictions quashed following a judicial inquiry that found there was reasonable doubt with regard to her guilt. That finding was informed by new scientific evidence that had been unavailable at the time of her trial and other crucial evidence relating to Folbigg’s diaries which were presented by the prosecution as akin to confessions.

We’ll chat a little about this case but what I’m more interested in is how Dr Williams feels about the way media cover criminal processes such as Kathleen Folbigg’s trials, how they portray criminals and the influence (and danger) they can have in swaying public opinion.

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Always maintaining her innocence, she was initially sentenced to 40yrs in prison (reduced to 30yrs on appeal) however after 2 decades in jail, she was pardoned and in Dec 2023 had her convictions quashed following a judicial inquiry that found there was reasonable doubt with regard to her guilt. That finding was informed by new scientific evidence that had been unavailable at the time of her trial and other crucial evidence relating to Folbigg’s diaries which were presented by the prosecution as akin to confessions.

We’ll chat a little about this case but what I’m more interested in is how Dr Williams feels about the way media cover criminal processes such as Kathleen Folbigg’s trials, how they portray criminals and the influence (and danger) they can have in swaying public opinion.

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With everything falling down around him, he fell in with the wrong crowd, trying to fit in anywhere he could and was introduced to drugs.  Soon he started to rely on those drugs to feel better & before he knew it, he was dependent on them, being unable to function without them. He lost his will to be anything but a drug addict. And for 12 years he abused his body & his mind, in an almost full-time haze, not caring about anyone or anything, other than where his next hit was coming from. He also tried to end his life, such was that hopelessless and helplessness. The only reason he didn’t end up in jail was but for a stroke of luck – and he’s never forgotten how ‘lucky’ he was the day the house he was living in (which he describes as ‘the drug house’) was raided by Police. Had he been home, he probably would have ended up like the others – being charged and facing court and jail time.   

But what IS unusual about Kane is that he beat his addiction to meth, ice and any other drug he could get his hands on, but it wasn’t easy. With his family’s support he somehow found a reason to live and he realised he’d been given a second chance and decided to help and support others who’d been in his position and founded an amazing organization – The Power in You. 

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Today’s guest Michael (not his real name) is that person. Michael sent me a brief message after having read an article about me somewhere. Part of his message read “I want to express my thanks for your work. I can only guess about how hard it was. I write this as an older survivor of childhood abuse confidentially”. Funny how that last word has just been thrown out the window and cast aside by me!! Confidential!!!!– trust me Michael!!! Your secret is safe with me!!

I responded and said if he ever felt like talking about it, I’ve found many of my guests who’ve never told their story before, find it cathartic and their stories often helps others in the comfort of knowing they are not alone. I can be pretty persuasive and he finally relented!!!

Michael has such a great attitude considering his father was jailed for offences committed upon him and his siblings, one of which ended their life as a teenager with Michael never knowing (and never wanting to know) if they too had been abused by their father. It is no surprise that this abuse had a devastating effect on Michael and his family, with relationships fractured and ruined forever. Michael said to me in one phone conversation he was thankful he put his father in jail because “it gave him another 10 yrs of life” which he wouldn’t have had, had he not been incarcerated.  If you don’t mind me saying, that’s very forgiving and I don’t think there’d be too many others out there as forgiving.

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for 6 of these years he worked in the Operations Team for Corrections Victoria Intelligence Unit. His role was to investigate prison offences, drug trafficking into prisons, disrupt prison gang activity, investigate staff misconduct and to provide intelligence information to law enforcement agencies. Giles discovered a love of investigating and has recently landed a great role as an investigator for another government organisation.

But it is his role within Corrections Victoria we are going to talk about today. His inside knowledge of many prisoners we have all heard about through the media is fascinating, with his role as case manager requiring him to talk and interact with them and support them in a way. He gives us an insight into their personalities and what it was like dealing with some of Australia’s most dangerous criminals.

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for 6 of these years he worked in the Operations Team for Corrections Victoria Intelligence Unit. His role was to investigate prison offences, drug trafficking into prisons, disrupt prison gang activity, investigate staff misconduct and to provide intelligence information to law enforcement agencies. Giles discovered a love of investigating and has recently landed a great role as an investigator for another government organisation.

But it is his role within Corrections Victoria we are going to talk about today. His inside knowledge of many prisoners we have all heard about through the media is fascinating, with his role as case manager requiring him to talk and interact with them and support them in a way. He gives us an insight into their personalities and what it was like dealing with some of Australia’s most dangerous criminals.

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Butterly despised Cameron & only days before their escape, had made a credible death threat to Cameron & his family, so upon his escape Cameron’s family were immediately evacuated to a safe house.

Cameron’s decorated career came at a cost in many respects. 

Cameron’s story is compelling.

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But as you’ll hear today, her philosophy has been since then, to learn something from every experience, both the good and bad.

Tania found a purpose in her life – to become a victim advocate, but to also understand offending more, with a view to reducing it or even better, to ultimately prevent it.

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But as you’ll hear today, her philosophy has been since then, to learn something from every experience, both the good and bad.

Tania found a purpose in her life – to become a victim advocate, but to also understand offending more, with a view to reducing it or even better, to ultimately prevent it.

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A mother of two children, both of whom have learning difficulties. Anastasia herself had learning difficulties. She managed a highly successful business. A trailblazer! Helping young and vulnerable children.

Throughout this she held a secret, she endured physical, psychological and verbal abuse from her husband, of which her children and some of her friends are witness to at times.

After enduring years of lockdowns and having to temporarily close her business, her husband suddenly leaves and on the very day he chooses to leave is the day she chose re-open her business. And further, on that day she is served with an intervention order, citing extraordinary instances which she categorically denied and stated are untrue. But due to the protracted court appearances, stress on Anastasia and her children, anxiety and legal meetings/conferences and fees, she decided it is easier to agree to the Order without agreeing to the allegations, and

so the order is granted for 3 yrs. 

This is Anastasia’s extraordinary story.

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A mother of two children, both of whom have learning difficulties. Anastasia herself had learning difficulties. She managed a highly successful business. A trailblazer! Helping young and vulnerable children.

Throughout this she held a secret, she endured physical, psychological and verbal abuse from her husband, of which her children and some of her friends are witness to at times.

After enduring years of lockdowns and having to temporarily close her business, her husband suddenly leaves and on the very day he chooses to leave is the day she chose re-open her business. And further, on that day she is served with an intervention order, citing extraordinary instances which she categorically denied and stated are untrue. But due to the protracted court appearances, stress on Anastasia and her children, anxiety and legal meetings/conferences and fees, she decided it is easier to agree to the Order without agreeing to the allegations, and

so the order is granted for 3 yrs. 

This is Anastasia’s extraordinary story.

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A mother of two children, both of whom have learning difficulties. Anastasia herself had learning difficulties. She managed a highly successful business. A trailblazer! Helping young and vulnerable children.

Throughout this she held a secret, she endured physical, psychological and verbal abuse from her husband, of which her children and some of her friends are witness to at times.

After enduring years of lockdowns and having to temporarily close her business, her husband suddenly leaves and on the very day he chooses to leave is the day she chose re-open her business. And further, on that day she is served with an intervention order, citing extraordinary instances which she categorically denied and stated are untrue. But due to the protracted court appearances, stress on Anastasia and her children, anxiety and legal meetings/conferences and fees, she decided it is easier to agree to the Order without agreeing to the allegations, and

so the order is granted for 3 yrs. 

This is Anastasia’s extraordinary story.

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Last year I told you how lost I felt, feeling like we’d lost everything when in fact we’d lost a lot but certainly not EVERYTHING. As at today’s date, 23rd November 2023 we are still not back in our house. 

There’s been progress, but its been painstakingly slow however I know there are people in Rochester where work hasn’t EVEN STARTED. How can that be possible?

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Today he takes us into a complicated, what he describes as a “basically uninvestigable” messy file he was handed and asked to have a look at, which contained a plethora of fraudulent insurance claims, false personal injury claims, kickbacks and many more twists and turns. 

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Today he takes us into a complicated, what he describes as a “basically uninvestigable” messy file he was handed and asked to have a look at, which contained a plethora of fraudulent insurance claims, false personal injury claims, kickbacks and many more twists and turns. 

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But it wasn’t long before she realised those traits she hadn’t liked in their childhood hadn’t disappeared

She couldn’t escape his psychological, physical and sexual abuse of her. She lived in fear every single day. 

This is Sarah's story.

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But it wasn’t long before she realised those traits she hadn’t liked in their childhood hadn’t disappeared

She couldn’t escape his psychological, physical and sexual abuse of her. She lived in fear every single day. 

This is Sarah's story.

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His life centered around drinking, partying and drug taking. It was never going to end well. Stu eventually found himself in a very dark and lonely place where he believed ending his life was the only answer. 

He’d lost his wife, his children, his friends, his reputation, his career a everything else he had. In his mind his life was worthless. His behaviour became so erratic he held up a post office with a knife, which led to a term of imprisonment for armed robbery. And that’s where everything changed.

Prison gave Stu an opportunity to dry out, to think about what a mess he’d made of his life and this was his chance at redemption.

After his release, he founded a recruitment agency called ‘The Green Collar Brigade’ which, in conjunction with WISE Employment Group, helps those coming out of prison, find meaningful employment & believes everyone deserves a second chance. 

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His life centered around drinking, partying and drug taking. It was never going to end well. Stu eventually found himself in a very dark and lonely place where he believed ending his life was the only answer. He’d lost his wife, his children, his friends, his reputation, his career a everything else he had. In his mind his life was worthless. His behaviour became so erratic he held up a post office with a knife, which led to a term of imprisonment for armed robbery. And that’s where everything changed.

Prison gave Stu an opportunity to dry out, to think about what a mess he’d made of his life and this was his chance at redemption.

After his release, he founded a recruitment agency called ‘The Green Collar Brigade’ which, in conjunction with WISE Employment Group, helps those coming out of prison, find meaningful employment & believes everyone deserves a second chance. 

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Not only is she forgiving, but courageous and brave as well. Amazingly so. 

Gloria has got EVERY REASON IN THE WORLD to think the world was/is a very dark, cruel, place to belong, but it just isn’t in her nature to think like that.

Gloria saw the goodness in many, including Darin, a regular client who’d lost his job, his home and his self-worth

But things began to change when Darin wanted to be more than a border to Gloria – he wanted a relationship which Gloria didn’t, and she made that plainly clear.  

Darin didn’t take the news well and feeling rejected and angry, he bound and raped her, tortured her, then abducted her, putting her bound and gagged into the boot of her own car and drove it to a NSW motel where he again raped and tortured he and locked her in a cupboard. Gloria managed to escape and alert the owners of the motel, and it is there that Gloria’s nightmare REALLY began.

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Not only is she forgiving, but courageous and brave as well. Amazingly so. 

Gloria has got EVERY REASON IN THE WORLD to think the world was/is a very dark, cruel, place to belong, but it just isn’t in her nature to think like that.

Gloria saw the goodness in many, including Darin, a regular client who’d lost his job, his home and his self-worth

But things began to change when Darin wanted to be more than a border to Gloria – he wanted a relationship which Gloria didn’t, and  she made that plainly clear.  

Darin didn’t take the news well and feeling rejected and angry, he bound and raped her, tortured her, then abducted her, putting her bound and gagged into the boot of her own car and drove it to a NSW motel where he again raped and tortured he and locked her in a cupboard. Gloria managed to escape and alert the owners of the motel, and it is there that Gloria’s nightmare REALLY began

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There’s been a spate of BUS and TRUCK crashes of recent times here in Victoria and NSW which made me think it was time we had a chat to an amazing man who was and still is most likely, one of Australia’s most knowledgeable experts in the field of major collision investigations, Peter Bellion. 

Peter hasn’t stopped loving what he did for 30 years and is still closely involved in many aspects of road trauma and has continued to be a fierce advocate in trying to keep us & our roads safer.

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Since leaving politics before the 2022 election, she has returned to university and is now studying law.

She also volunteers with the Power in You Project in Geelong, she’s a Board Member of Barwon Community Legal Service in Geelong, she is a Dying With Dignity Young Ambassador and co-ordinates a schools debating competition in Geelong for the Debaters’ Association of Victoria.

In short – Liv is a remarkable young woman!

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Some of the areas of reform Liv worked on included family violence, stalking, sexual offending including childhood sexual abuse, liquor control, policing and voluntary assisted dying, just for starters.

Since leaving politics before the 2022 election, she has returned to university and is now studying law.

She also volunteers with the Power in You Project in Geelong, she’s a Board Member of Barwon Community Legal Service in Geelong, she is a Dying With Dignity Young Ambassador and co-ordinates a schools debating competition in Geelong for the Debaters’ Association of Victoria.

In short – Liv is a remarkable young woman!

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In this episode Mark talks openly about his battle with PTSI but the difference with Mark is he is a still a serving/current Vicpol member. 

Mark was able to recover enough from his PTSI to be able to RTW but much of that was because of the unwavering support of his supervisors. His immediate supervisor understood more than many about how to deal with a member trying to manage psychological injuries, and the difference that has made in Mark’s recovery is to be honest, incredible. 

This is Marks story

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It was the days of Alfonz Gangitano and the Carlton Crew and they kept us very busy. The Pettingals lived around the corner as did many other old time crooks and career criminals.

Dave went on to become a decorated and dedicated high-ranking Detective within Victoria Police and then joined the Australian Federal Police to work overseas. This all formed part of 37 years in a variety of policing jurisdictions & capacity development missions in Timor Leste, Afghanistan & Papua New Guinea.

PNG exposed Dave to several traumatic incidents, as did his time in Timor Leste & Afghanistan. That extremely competent, confident, funny, Policeman became a shell of the man I worked with at Carlton. 

This is Dave’s Story

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It was the days of Alfonz Gangitano and the Carlton Crew and they kept us very busy. The Pettingals lived around the corner as did many other old time crooks and career criminals.

Dave went on to become a decorated and dedicated high-ranking Detective within Victoria Police and then joined the Australian Federal Police to work overseas. This all formed part of 37 years in a variety of policing jurisdictions & capacity development missions in Timor Leste, Afghanistan & Papua New Guinea.

PNG exposed Dave to several traumatic incidents, as did his time in Timor Leste & Afghanistan. That extremely competent, confident, funny, Policeman became a shell of the man I worked with at Carlton. 

This is Dave’s Story

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Today Ben is showing bravery and courage beyond words.

My interview with Ben is very raw and you can hear the pain and anger in his voice. The effects of childhood abuse cause so many difficulties and issues which is why I am so passionate about doing what I can. My wish is to have as many pedophiles as possible placed somewhere where they can’t abuse and damage any other children like Ben, ever again.

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Gordon loved his work & excelled in his field of forensic examinations. He was at the top of his game, with so much knowledge & insight into forensic examinations. 

What a waste….

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Gordon loved his work & excelled in his field of forensic examinations. He was at the top of his game, with so much knowledge & insight into forensic examinations. 

What a waste….

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But life hasn’t always been rosy for Jeffrey.  He was living on the streets of Redfern, Sydney at 12 which led to him spending 18 years in and out of the Australia’s maximum-security prisons from 1992 until 2010.

This is Jeffery's story.

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Dave left Policing because he realised VicPol’s values and morals didn’t align with his own.

The impact of requiring a victim to explain the most intimate, often humiliating and embarrassing details of lets say a sexual offence in a statement took its toll on Dave as he was the one who had to pick up the victim’s broken pieces.

This is Dave's story.

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Dave left Policing because he realised VicPol’s values and morals didn’t align with his own.

The impact of requiring a victim to explain the most intimate, often humiliating & embarrassing details of lets say a sexual offence in a statement took its toll on Dave as he was the one who had to pick up the victim’s broken pieces.

This is Dave's story.

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This may be uncomfortable listening, but it’s a conversation we all need to have to break the silence about surviving childhood sexual abuse and dealing with it, rather than burying it.

This is Shannon’s story.

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This may be uncomfortable listening, but it’s a conversation we all need to have to break the silence about surviving childhood sexual abuse and dealing with it, rather than burying it.

This is Shannon’s story.

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In this episode Mark talks openly about his battle with PTSI but the difference with Mark is he is a still a serving/current Vicpol member. 

Mark was able to recover enough from his PTSI to be able to RTW but much of that was because of the unwavering support of his supervisors. His immediate supervisor understood more than many about how to deal with a member trying to manage psychological injuries, and the difference that has made in Mark’s recovery is to be honest, incredible. 

This is Marks story

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But the results of his NLP sessions are amazing – it’s certainly worth a try if nothing else is working for you or someone close to you.

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To visit Kosta's website visit thewaypch.org for mobile devices and HTTPS://thewaypch.org for laptops.

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This is Rob's story

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This is Rob's story

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After a while Di thought about dipping her toes into the dating scene, but she didn’t need to, as a customer at her workplace had seen her and was very taken with her. 

He persisted and eventually they went out for coffee and she found she really liked him. He was charming, attentive, a gentleman and ‘quite sweet’ is how she described him.

But he couldn’t mask his true personality.

Di had unfortunately met a narcissist. 

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After a while Di thought about dipping her toes into the dating scene, but she didn’t need to, as a customer at her workplace had seen her and was very taken with her. 

He persisted and eventually they went out for coffee and she found she really liked him. He was charming, attentive, a gentleman and ‘quite sweet’ is how she described him.

But he couldn’t mask his true personality.

Di had unfortunately met a narcissist. 

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Cathy stayed with this man out of a genuine fear he would carry out the threats he would continually make, not only to Cathy but her family and friends also.

She began to slide into a world of hopelessness and helplessness, and when she finally found the courage to go to the authorities, no reports were taken, no referrals given, just advice to go the Magistrates Court and speak to the Registrar.

Instead of curling up into a ball & becoming disenchanted and detached from the world she was living in, Cathy began on a path of redemption, using her experiences as a victim of numerous serious crimes, to help others not experience what she has.

This is Cathy’s story.

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Cathy stayed with this man out of a genuine fear he would carry out the threats he would continually make, not only to Cathy but her family and friends also.

She began to slide into a world of hopelessness and helplessness, and when she finally found the courage to go to the authorities, no reports were taken, no referrals given, just advice to go the Magistrates Court and speak to the Registrar.

Instead of curling up into a ball & becoming disenchanted and detached from the world she was living in, Cathy began on a path of redemption, using her experiences as a victim of numerous serious crimes, to help others not experience what she has.

This is Cathy’s story.

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This is episode is about Robyn’s recovery, her discovery of another world without violence, without drugs and without her many addictions. 

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This is episode is about Robyn’s recovery, her discovery of another world without violence, without drugs and without her many addictions. 

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Nikki’s policing career sent her very close to the edge but she’s found a new purpose in life & is so much stronger mentally & relishes in the fact she’s still ‘making a difference’ in her role as a ‘clinical perfusionist’. 

So you’d think Nikki might take it a bit easy & do something a little less stressful wouldn’t you……but no

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Nikki’s policing career sent her very close to the edge but she’s found a new purpose in life & is so much stronger mentally & relishes in the fact she’s still ‘making a difference’ in her role as a ‘clinical perfusionist’. 

So you’d think Nikki might take it a bit easy & do something a little less stressful wouldn’t you……but no

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Anne O'Brien is synonymous with compassion, comfort, empathy, kindness, warmth, fun and humour. Anne was known to nearly every homicide, sex crime and major collision investigation unit member. And those who didn't soon learnt of her importance.

Anne's expertise wasn't at a crime scene or investigating a crime, it was with the actual victim or a witness to that crime.

This is Annes' story.

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Jeff’s deteriorating mental health came to a head one day when he was nearly killed trying to stop an offender driving a stolen utility.

This is Jeff's story.

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Jeff’s deteriorating mental health came to a head one day when he was nearly killed trying to stop an offender driving a stolen utility.

This is Jeff's story.

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In her role as an escort, she met and fell in love with a man 15yrs her senior who introduced her to drugs, she quickly became addicted. And there began a relationship with a man who over time, she realised was a narcissist, who she found was constantly cheating on her, he abused her physically and sexually, stalked her, harassed her, threatened to humiliate her, gaslight her …..and she couldn’t escape. She was stuck and fearful of her life if she did find the courage to leave.

This is Leonie's survival story in her own words.

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In her role as an escort, she met and fell in love with a man 15yrs her senior who introduced her to drugs, she quickly became addicted. And there began a relationship with a man who over time, she realised was a narcissist, who she found was constantly cheating on her, he abused her physically and sexually, stalked her, harassed her, threatened to humiliate her, gaslight her …..and she couldn’t escape. She was stuck and fearful of her life if she did find the courage to leave.

This is Leonie's survival story in her own words.

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When called upon he would attend a hostage situation and do his very best to de-escalate the crisis and find a peaceful resolution. Unfortunately not all negotiations ended well, and his longest job was 41 hours.

John talks to Narelle about his on-the-job experiences in what was a very colourful career.

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When called upon he would attend a hostage situation and do his very best to de-escalate the crisis and find a peaceful resolution. Unfortunately not all negotiations ended well, and his longest job was 41 hours.

John talks to Narelle about his on-the-job experiences in what was a very colourful career.

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It was a case which stayed with me because of the injustice and the fact a young man had been incarcerated for 15 months before it was found that he had not committed the rape and had never been in the area the rape had allegedly occurred, evidence which was seemingly ignored or dismissed quickly.

This is Jama’s story

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Not everybody is a talker or feels comfortable talking about their trauma – that’s where Stacey’s areas of expertise comes in. And being a Detective for 16 years, I think she’d have a pretty good idea of dealing with trauma and grief. 

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A raw and emotional listen.

"Please forgive me as I'm deviating from my normal podcast with something completely different. I've had so many messages about how I am and if I've been impacted by the floods, so thought I'd take you through the last 3 weeks of whats been a whirlwind. Thanks. I read every message but just can't respond to them all"💜💜

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A raw and emotional listen.

"Please forgive me as I'm deviating from my normal podcast with something completely different.  I've had so many messages about how I am and if I've been impacted by the floods, so thought I'd take you through the last 3 weeks of whats been a whirlwind.  Thanks. I read every message but just can't respond to them all"💜💜

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These were tough men who played hard but against the hardest of hardened criminals they had to!

This is David’s story of his time in the job and what followed after.

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These were tough men who played hard but against the hardest of hardened criminals they had to!

This is David’s story of his time in the job and what followed after.

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Anne's expertise wasn't at a crime scene or investigating a crime, it was with the actual victim or a witness to that crime.

This is Annes' story.

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Examining the human side of the impact of crime.

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In 2009, former policeman Cameron Caine found himself at the centre of the devastating bushfires in Kinglake in what would become known as Black Saturday.

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Examining the human side of the impact of crime.

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In 2009, former policeman Cameron Caine found himself at the centre of the devastating bushfires in Kinglake in what would become known as Black Saturday.

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