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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes actor Philip Glenister to the panel alongside Scott Quinnell, Tom Shanklin and Katy Daley-McLean! 🎬🏉</p><br><p>Philip opens up about life as Gene Hunt, the impact of Life on Mars, and how sudden fame changed everything... including being chased by paparazzi at the height of the show’s success. 😳</p><br><p>He shares brilliant behind-the-scenes stories from his career, including nearly hitting Sean Connery whilst playing gold, his honest views on how streaming is changing television, and why he believes the industry isn’t what it used to be. 🎥⛳️</p><br><p>Away from acting, Philip talks about his love of sport, the crossover between rugby and performance, and why live sport still delivers something TV drama can’t replicate.</p><br><p>Funny, insightful and full of incredible stories, this is a hugely entertaining chat with one of Britain’s most recognisable actors. 🌍</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Michel Roux Jr: Cooking for The Queen, Sir Alex Ferguson & Why I Love Rugby | Stick to Rugby EP 49]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Michel Roux Jr: Cooking for The Queen, Sir Alex Ferguson & Why I Love Rugby | Stick to Rugby EP 49]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Alex Goode: Owen Farrell Impact, Saracens Culture & Why I Retired | Stick to Rugby EP 48]]></title>
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			<title><![CDATA[Alex Cuthbert: Social Media Abuse, Lions Selection Shock & SMASHING England | Stick to Rugby Ep 47]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Alex Cuthbert: Social Media Abuse, Lions Selection Shock & SMASHING England | Stick to Rugby Ep 47]]></itunes:title>
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			<title><![CDATA[Gabby & Kenny Logan: Dyslexia Diagnosis, Scotland Secrets & SPOTY Debate! | Stick to Rugby EP 46]]></title>
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			<title><![CDATA[Lewis Moody: Facing MND, England Expectations & The State of Rugby Today | Stick to Rugby EP 45]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Lewis Moody: Facing MND, England Expectations & The State of Rugby Today | Stick to Rugby EP 45]]></itunes:title>
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			<title><![CDATA[England BEAT All Blacks & Bobby Skinstad on Barbarians & South Africa Rugby | Stick to Rugby EP 44]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[England BEAT All Blacks & Bobby Skinstad on Barbarians & South Africa Rugby | Stick to Rugby EP 44]]></itunes:title>
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			<title><![CDATA[Sean Fitzpatrick: Jonah Lomu Truths, All Blacks Mentality & England Rivalry | Stick to Rugby EP 43]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Sean Fitzpatrick: Jonah Lomu Truths, All Blacks Mentality & England Rivalry | Stick to Rugby EP 43]]></itunes:title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes All Blacks legend Sean Fitzpatrick to the panel alongside, Scott Quinnell, Tom Shanklin, Phil Vickery and Maggie Alphonsi! 🏉🇳🇿</p><br><p>Sean opens up about what it really means to wear the famous black jersey, the pressure of captaining New Zealand, and how Jonah Lomu changed rugby forever. ⚡️</p><br><p>He lifts the lid on the All Blacks’ brutal standards, the heartbreak of the 1995 World Cup, and the intense rivalry with England that still defines international rugby. 🏆🔥</p><br><p>From legacy and leadership to lessons learned from defeat, this is an honest, powerful and inspiring chat with one of the greatest captains the game has ever seen. 🌍</p><br><p>0:00 Welcome back to Stick to Rugby!</p><p>07:25 Sean Fitzpatrick’s INCREDIBLE All Blacks team 😳🇳🇿</p><p>13:23 Reacting to (and predicting) the Quilter Nations 🔮🏆</p><p>32:14 Growing up with Brian Fitzpatrick as a Dad 👶</p><p>36:10 Does Sean Keep Memorabilia? 🥇👕</p><p>37:21 Inspiring the Next Generation 👶</p><p>42:59 The Power of the All Blacks Jersey 🇳🇿</p><p>46:45 THAT 1996 South Africa Test Series 🇿🇦</p><p>50:06 The New Era of All Blacks 🇳🇿</p><p>1:00:11 Laureus Foundation ❤️</p><p>1:07:45 Fitzy’s Favourites 🥰</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes All Blacks legend Sean Fitzpatrick to the panel alongside, Scott Quinnell, Tom Shanklin, Phil Vickery and Maggie Alphonsi! 🏉🇳🇿</p><br><p>Sean opens up about what it really means to wear the famous black jersey, the pressure of captaining New Zealand, and how Jonah Lomu changed rugby forever. ⚡️</p><br><p>He lifts the lid on the All Blacks’ brutal standards, the heartbreak of the 1995 World Cup, and the intense rivalry with England that still defines international rugby. 🏆🔥</p><br><p>From legacy and leadership to lessons learned from defeat, this is an honest, powerful and inspiring chat with one of the greatest captains the game has ever seen. 🌍</p><br><p>0:00 Welcome back to Stick to Rugby!</p><p>07:25 Sean Fitzpatrick’s INCREDIBLE All Blacks team 😳🇳🇿</p><p>13:23 Reacting to (and predicting) the Quilter Nations 🔮🏆</p><p>32:14 Growing up with Brian Fitzpatrick as a Dad 👶</p><p>36:10 Does Sean Keep Memorabilia? 🥇👕</p><p>37:21 Inspiring the Next Generation 👶</p><p>42:59 The Power of the All Blacks Jersey 🇳🇿</p><p>46:45 THAT 1996 South Africa Test Series 🇿🇦</p><p>50:06 The New Era of All Blacks 🇳🇿</p><p>1:00:11 Laureus Foundation ❤️</p><p>1:07:45 Fitzy’s Favourites 🥰</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Serge Betsen: France Grim Reaper, Jonny Wilkinson Battle & Biarritz to Wasps | Stick to Rugby EP 42 ]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Serge Betsen: France Grim Reaper, Jonny Wilkinson Battle & Biarritz to Wasps | Stick to Rugby EP 42 ]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, features French rugby legend Serge Betsen, joining Scott Quinnell, Tom Shanklin, Katy Daley-McLean and Phil Vickery for a hard-hitting conversation.</p><br><p>Nicknamed “The Grim Reaper” for his brutal tackling and relentless defence, Serge looks back on his fierce rivalry with England, his personal battles with Jonny Wilkinson, and the World Cup heartbreaks that still haunt him.</p><br><p>He shares how rugby changed his life — from growing up in Cameroon, to finding purpose in Paris and Biarritz, and becoming one of France’s most feared flankers. Serge also discusses his dream move to Wasps, his take on France’s current World Cup hopes, and why he believes the team still isn’t ready to win it all.</p><br><p>🚨 Subscribe now and hit the bell so you never miss an episode of Stick to Rugby.</p><br><p>00:00 - Serge Betsen Memories</p><p>02:32 - Best &amp; Worst Rugby Roommates</p><p>05:27 - Time Travel: Past or Future?</p><p>07:02 - Teaser</p><p>08:02 - Teammates Quiz</p><p>11:52 - Growing Up in Cameroon &amp; Moving to France</p><p>15:22 - From Paris to Biarritz</p><p>24:40 - Dream Move to Wasps</p><p>32:34 - Representing France: 63 Caps &amp; Big Moments</p><p>37:05 - Jonny Wilkinson Rivalry &amp; England Battles</p><p>42:03 - Sports Science &amp; Psychology</p><p>45:44 - France World Cup Chances</p><p>54:22 - Lions Tour in France Debate</p><p>56:30 - Women’s Rugby World Cup</p><p>59:05 - Légion d'Honneur &amp; Charity Work</p><p>01:02:46 - This or That with Serge Betsen</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Nick Isiekwe: Returning from Heart Surgery, Owen Farrell & England Comeback | Stick to Rugby EP 41]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Nick Isiekwe: Returning from Heart Surgery, Owen Farrell & England Comeback | Stick to Rugby EP 41]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Ollie Chessum: Lions Selection Shock, Leicester Captain & Initiation SECRETS! | Stick to Rugby EP 40]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Ollie Chessum: Lions Selection Shock, Leicester Captain & Initiation SECRETS! | Stick to Rugby EP 40]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2025 07:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes England and Leicester Tigers star Ollie Chessum to the panel alongside Katy Daley-McLean, Scott Quinnell, Tom Shanklin, and Topsy Ojo! 🚨</p><br><p>Ollie opens up about his incredible journey from a Leicester academy prospect to England international, the injury that nearly ended his career, and what it really took to fight his way back to fitness. 💪</p><br><p>He lifts the lid on Lions selection shock, being made Leicester Tigers captain, and the hilarious initiation secrets from inside England and Lions camps. 🦁🏉</p><br><p>From recovery setbacks to leadership lessons, this is an honest, funny and inspiring chat with one of English rugby’s brightest talents! 🌹🔥</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Jonathan Joseph: Career-Ending Injury, Bath Memories & England Comebacks | Stick to Rugby EP 39]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Jonathan Joseph: Career-Ending Injury, Bath Memories & England Comebacks | Stick to Rugby EP 39]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2025 07:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes Jonathan Joseph to the panel alongside Katy Daley-McLean, Scott Quinnell, Tom Shanklin, and Topsy Ojo! 🚨</p><br><p>Jonathan opens up on his incredible journey from Bath to Biarritz, the challenges of life in France 🇫🇷, and the truth behind his retirement decision. He reflects on the highs of playing for England, the heartbreak of injuries, and the possibility of one final comeback... 👀</p><br><p>From Six Nations glory to tough career choices and what life looks like after professional rugby, this is Jonathan Joseph as you’ve never heard him before — honest, reflective and refreshingly open. 🏉</p><br><p>A must-watch conversation with one of England’s most gifted backs. Don’t miss it! 🔥</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Lewis Moody Tribute, Rugby League Ashes Return & Offiah’s Wembley Magic! | Stick to Rugby EP 38]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Lewis Moody Tribute, Rugby League Ashes Return & Offiah’s Wembley Magic! | Stick to Rugby EP 38]]></itunes:title>
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			<title><![CDATA[Sarah Bern & Henry Slade: England WIN World Cup, Exeter Loyalty & Lions Glory | Stick to Rugby EP 37]]></title>
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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes England international <strong>Henry Slade</strong> and WORLD CUP WINNER (🥳) <strong>Sarah Bern</strong> to the panel alongside Katy Daley-McLean, Scott Quinnell and Tom Shanklin and Topsy Ojo! 🚨</p><br><p>Sarah opens up about her journey from the back row to becoming one of the world’s best props, the reality of body image in women’s rugby, and what it felt like to lift the World Cup with the Red Roses. She also reflects on the heartbreak of defeat, the brutal demands of set-piece training, and the record-breaking crowds transforming the women’s game. 🏆</p><br><p>Henry reveals the truth about being dropped from the England squad, the highs and lows of his World Cup campaigns, and what loyalty to Exeter Chiefs means after more than a decade at the club. He also shares memories of playing with Sam Burgess, living with Type 1 diabetes, and his hopes for England in 2025. 🏉</p><br><p>An honest, powerful and revealing conversation with two of the most fascinating figures in English rugby. This is NOT to be missed! 👀</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Ruby Tui: Olympic Gold, Meeting King Charles & World Cup Final Predictions | Stick to Rugby EP 36]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2025 06:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes Black Ferns star Ruby Tui—Olympic champion, World Cup winner, and one of rugby’s most electrifying voices—alongside Katy Daley-McLean, Phil Vickery, and Tom Shanklin for a conversation full of laughs, vulnerability and unforgettable stories.</p><br><p>Ruby opens up about her upbringing in New Zealand, how sport gave her a sense of purpose, and choosing between netball and rugby. She also shares the real story of when she met King Charles at Buckingham Palace.</p><br><p>Ruby reflects on New Zealand’s semi-final loss to Canada, her honest assessment of what went wrong, and bold predictions for the World Cup final. She also talks through the meaning of the haka, the emotional power of wearing the Black Ferns jersey, and what inspired her book Straight Up.</p><br><p>🚨 Subscribe now so you never miss an episode!</p><br><p>00:00 – Bread Talk, Cookbooks &amp; Scott’s Horror Injury</p><p>06:05 – Teaser</p><p>07:09 – Ruby Tui Joins &amp; Kiwi Snack Chat</p><p>09:12 – Who Am I: All Blacks &amp; Black Ferns Edition</p><p>12:33 – When Ruby Met King Charles </p><p>18:11 – Growing Up in New Zealand</p><p>21:35 – How Sport Gave Ruby Belonging</p><p>27:35 – When Ruby Knew Rugby Was It</p><p>30:48 – Weight of the New Zealand Jersey</p><p>35:39 – Rio 2016 &amp; Olympic Village Stories</p><p>40:39 – Winning Olympic Gold in Tokyo</p><p>42:48 – The Power of the Haka</p><p>48:01 – Winning the 2021 Rugby World Cup</p><p>53:01 – Losing to Canada Reaction</p><p>55:50 – England vs Canada Semi-Final Preview</p><p>01:01:47 – The Real Ruby &amp; Katy Daley McLean</p><p>01:05:24 – Ruby’s Memoir: Straight Up</p><p>01:09:16 – Growth of the Women’s Game</p><p>01:11:08 – Community Questions</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Maggie Alphonsi: Battling Disability, World Cup Relief & Sporting Heroes | Stick to Rugby EP 35]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Maggie Alphonsi: Battling Disability, World Cup Relief & Sporting Heroes | Stick to Rugby EP 35]]></itunes:title>
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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>There’s 𝗧𝗛𝗥𝗘𝗘 World Cup winners on the latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, as rugby icon 𝗠𝗮𝗴𝗴𝗶𝗲 𝗔𝗹𝗽𝗵𝗼𝗻𝘀𝗶 is welcomed to the panel alongside Katy Daley-McLean, Phil Vickery, Scott Quinnell and Tom Shanklin. 🤩</p><br><p>Maggie opens up about her remarkable journey from a council estate in South London to lifting the Rugby World Cup with the Red Roses. 🌹</p><br><p>She reveals how being born with clubfoot became her superpower, the teacher who first pushed her into rugby, and what it was like to play at a time when women’s rugby was still fighting for recognition. 🏉</p><br><p>She also reflects on the highs and lows of her England career from the heartbreak of losing World Cup finals to the relief of finally winning in 2014 and the teammates and role models who inspired her along the way. 👑</p><br><p>Away from the pitch, Maggie discusses life after rugby, her work breaking barriers in sport, and how she’s mistaken for England captain to this day (which Katy is having none of!) 😂🧐</p><br><p>An honest, powerful and inspiring conversation with one of the most influential figures in rugby. </p><br><p>This one is NOT to be missed!</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Alex 'Apollo' Gray: Olympic Heartbreak, How NFL Can Help Rugby & Captaining England | Stick to Rugby EP 34]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Alex 'Apollo' Gray: Olympic Heartbreak, How NFL Can Help Rugby & Captaining England | Stick to Rugby EP 34]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2025 07:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Mackenzie Carson: Winning the World Cup & Switching from Canada to Red Roses | Stick to Rugby EP 33]]></title>
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			<title><![CDATA[Clare Balding: Rugby League’s Decline, Celebrity Traitors & Olympic Memories | Stick to Rugby EP 32]]></title>
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			<title><![CDATA[Shane Williams: Wales' Golden Era, Lions Comeback & Gatland Fight Secrets | STR EP 31]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Shane Williams: Wales' Golden Era, Lions Comeback & Gatland Fight Secrets | STR EP 31]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2025 06:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Jason Fox: SAS Secrets, England Bootcamp Chaos & PTSD Recovery | Stick to Rugby EP 30]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Jason Fox: SAS Secrets, England Bootcamp Chaos & PTSD Recovery | Stick to Rugby EP 30]]></itunes:title>
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			<title><![CDATA[Were Australia ROBBED? Topsy Ojo on Being Dropped & Lewis ‘Mad Dog’ Moody! | Stick to Rugby EP 28]]></title>
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			<title><![CDATA[Neil Back: Hand of Back, Banned for Pushing Ref & England World Cup Win! | Stick to Rugby EP 27]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Neil Back: Hand of Back, Banned for Pushing Ref & England World Cup Win! | Stick to Rugby EP 27]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2025 06:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Gavin Henson: Why I Left Wales, Iconic Kick & Lions Test Prediction | Stick to Rugby EP 26]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Gavin Henson: Why I Left Wales, Iconic Kick & Lions Test Prediction | Stick to Rugby EP 26]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2025 06:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Tom Kerridge: Farrell vs Ford, Michelin Star Chef & Recovery Journey! | Stick to Rugby EP 25]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Tom Kerridge: Farrell vs Ford, Michelin Star Chef & Recovery Journey! | Stick to Rugby EP 25]]></itunes:title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, is back — and this week we’re joined by legendary Michelin-starred chef Tom Kerridge, alongside Lawrence Dallaglio, Tom Shanklin, Katy Daley-Mclean and Scott Quinnell.</p><br><p>Tom lifts the lid on his incredible journey from the rugby pitch in Gloucester to running one of the UK’s most acclaimed kitchens. He shares how his time in the front row shaped his career, the high-pressure crossover between rugby and fine dining, and what he learned from chefs like Rick Stein and shows like Great British Menu.</p><br><p>The team dive into everything from Shanks’ baking, feeding rugby players vs Williams Racing, and Tom being snubbed on the F1 grid at Silverstone 2025 by Martin Brundle... for Tom Holland.</p><br><p>On the rugby front, there’s pride in coaching his son’s team, shoutouts for rising stars like Henry Pollock, and strong views on the British &amp; Irish Lions and the Owen Farrell vs George Ford debate — with Andy Farrell never far from the conversation.</p><br><p>Tom also opens up about his alcohol recovery, mental health, and the mindset it took to earn multiple Michelin Stars, all while navigating fame, TV and the intensity of hospitality life.</p><br><p>Oh, and there’s Glastonbury chat, Oasis love, and an unexpected pit stop from Scott…</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, is back — and this week we’re joined by legendary Michelin-starred chef Tom Kerridge, alongside Lawrence Dallaglio, Tom Shanklin, Katy Daley-Mclean and Scott Quinnell.</p><br><p>Tom lifts the lid on his incredible journey from the rugby pitch in Gloucester to running one of the UK’s most acclaimed kitchens. He shares how his time in the front row shaped his career, the high-pressure crossover between rugby and fine dining, and what he learned from chefs like Rick Stein and shows like Great British Menu.</p><br><p>The team dive into everything from Shanks’ baking, feeding rugby players vs Williams Racing, and Tom being snubbed on the F1 grid at Silverstone 2025 by Martin Brundle... for Tom Holland.</p><br><p>On the rugby front, there’s pride in coaching his son’s team, shoutouts for rising stars like Henry Pollock, and strong views on the British &amp; Irish Lions and the Owen Farrell vs George Ford debate — with Andy Farrell never far from the conversation.</p><br><p>Tom also opens up about his alcohol recovery, mental health, and the mindset it took to earn multiple Michelin Stars, all while navigating fame, TV and the intensity of hospitality life.</p><br><p>Oh, and there’s Glastonbury chat, Oasis love, and an unexpected pit stop from Scott…</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Mike Brown: Reacting to Controversial Prem Final & Eddie Jones Fall Out | Stick to Rugby EP 24]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Mike Brown: Reacting to Controversial Prem Final & Eddie Jones Fall Out | Stick to Rugby EP 24]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2025 07:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Stick to Rugby is hitting the road once again, brought to you by Defender, as Lawrence Dallaglio and Tom Shanklin sit down with England’s Mike Brown.</p><br><p>Brown opens up about the mindset that made him one of the Premiership’s fiercest competitors, why Harlequins and England meant everything to him, and how he handled the big fall-out with Eddie Jones.</p><br><p>He reflects on the controversial Premiership Final, the chip on his shoulder that fuelled his career, and the clashes (including a secret punch in the 🍒 from Dallaglio in a ruck) that shaped him on the pitch.</p><br><p>The lads also tackle what rugby needs to fix for the next generation, the pressures of international selection, and whether Brown regrets how it all ended with England.</p><br><p>Brutally honest, fiery and full of stories… this is Mike Brown as you’ve never heard him before!</p><br><p>00:00 On the Road is BACK!</p><p>01:27 Reacting to Gallagher Premiership Final Loss</p><p>04:35 What Michael Cheika brought to Leicester Tigers</p><p>06:08 The Secret to Mike Brown’s Longevity</p><p>12:18 How Mike got into Rugby</p><p>21:00 Mike’s Relationship with the Media and THAT Interview</p><p>23:11 Most Proud Moments in Mike’s Career</p><p>26:05 How Mike’s Relationship with Eddie Jones Changed</p><p>30:33 Mike’s Bestfriends in Rugby</p><p>32:55 Mike’s Toughest Opposition</p><p>37:04 Most Underrated Players</p><p>38:45 Players who Taught Mike the Most </p><p>42:45 Best Moments in Mike’s Career</p><p>44:50 Life After Retirement</p><p>48:00 Mike’s Call to Arms to Help Rugby</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Stick to Rugby is hitting the road once again, brought to you by Defender, as Lawrence Dallaglio and Tom Shanklin sit down with England’s Mike Brown.</p><br><p>Brown opens up about the mindset that made him one of the Premiership’s fiercest competitors, why Harlequins and England meant everything to him, and how he handled the big fall-out with Eddie Jones.</p><br><p>He reflects on the controversial Premiership Final, the chip on his shoulder that fuelled his career, and the clashes (including a secret punch in the 🍒 from Dallaglio in a ruck) that shaped him on the pitch.</p><br><p>The lads also tackle what rugby needs to fix for the next generation, the pressures of international selection, and whether Brown regrets how it all ended with England.</p><br><p>Brutally honest, fiery and full of stories… this is Mike Brown as you’ve never heard him before!</p><br><p>00:00 On the Road is BACK!</p><p>01:27 Reacting to Gallagher Premiership Final Loss</p><p>04:35 What Michael Cheika brought to Leicester Tigers</p><p>06:08 The Secret to Mike Brown’s Longevity</p><p>12:18 How Mike got into Rugby</p><p>21:00 Mike’s Relationship with the Media and THAT Interview</p><p>23:11 Most Proud Moments in Mike’s Career</p><p>26:05 How Mike’s Relationship with Eddie Jones Changed</p><p>30:33 Mike’s Bestfriends in Rugby</p><p>32:55 Mike’s Toughest Opposition</p><p>37:04 Most Underrated Players</p><p>38:45 Players who Taught Mike the Most </p><p>42:45 Best Moments in Mike’s Career</p><p>44:50 Life After Retirement</p><p>48:00 Mike’s Call to Arms to Help Rugby</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Kevin Sinfield: Coaching England & Raising £10 Million for Rob Burrow | Stick to Rugby EP 23]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Kevin Sinfield: Coaching England & Raising £10 Million for Rob Burrow | Stick to Rugby EP 23]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2025 11:11:45 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>We take Stick to Rugby on the road again this week, brought to you by Defender, as Lawrence Dallaglio and Scott Quinnell are joined by rugby legend Kevin Sinfield.</p><br><p>From signing pro at just 13 to captaining that iconic Leeds Rhinos side and now coaching with England, Kevin opens up about the highs and heartbreaks of a remarkable career including what it was like losing five Challenge Cup finals and his incredible friendship with Rob Burrow</p><br><p>They dive into Sinfield’s biggest sliding door moments, whether he prefers rugby union or league, and the powerful truth behind raising millions for MND. </p><br><p>Plus, he lifts the lid on his England role, coaching philosophy and the advice he’d give to his younger self!</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>We take Stick to Rugby on the road again this week, brought to you by Defender, as Lawrence Dallaglio and Scott Quinnell are joined by rugby legend Kevin Sinfield.</p><br><p>From signing pro at just 13 to captaining that iconic Leeds Rhinos side and now coaching with England, Kevin opens up about the highs and heartbreaks of a remarkable career including what it was like losing five Challenge Cup finals and his incredible friendship with Rob Burrow</p><br><p>They dive into Sinfield’s biggest sliding door moments, whether he prefers rugby union or league, and the powerful truth behind raising millions for MND. </p><br><p>Plus, he lifts the lid on his England role, coaching philosophy and the advice he’d give to his younger self!</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Louis Rees-Zammit: NFL Challenges, Rugby Return & Taylor Swift Letter?! | Stick to Rugby EP 22]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Louis Rees-Zammit: NFL Challenges, Rugby Return & Taylor Swift Letter?! | Stick to Rugby EP 22]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2025 07:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, sees hosts Lawrence Dallaglio, Thomas Shanklin, and Katy Daley-Mclean sit down with Louis Rees-Zammit for a rapid-fire, globe-trotting episode packed with personal reflections, jaw-dropping transitions, and untold stories from both sides.</p><br><p>Rees-Zammit kicks things off with quickfire questions before opening up on his early love for football, his obsession with Cristiano Ronaldo, and the American football influence he soaked up at home thanks to his dad. He reveals the moment he was told he’d never play for Wales after leaving Cardiff Blues — and how he proved everyone wrong by making his Test debut just years later.</p><br><p>He relives his proudest moment in a Wales jersey, what it meant to finally play in front of Welsh fans, and doesn’t shy away from the team’s recent struggles. There’s Lions chat too — from the surreal COVID tour that “felt like training games” to passing the torch (and mascot duties) on to Pollock.</p><br><p>Then it’s all eyes on the NFL. Rees-Zammit shares how he knew it was time to make the leap, the brutal reality of trying to make it in the States, and how it felt getting picked up by the Kansas City Chiefs. He reveals the physical toll of NFL training (rugby players beware), reflects on the massive life decision he faced at 22, and the inspiration he took from Travis Clayton. Oh — and there’s a surprise letter from Taylor Swift.</p><br><p>Finally, he answers the big question: could a return to rugby still be on the cards? And what has he come to love most about life in America?</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, sees hosts Lawrence Dallaglio, Thomas Shanklin, and Katy Daley-Mclean sit down with Louis Rees-Zammit for a rapid-fire, globe-trotting episode packed with personal reflections, jaw-dropping transitions, and untold stories from both sides.</p><br><p>Rees-Zammit kicks things off with quickfire questions before opening up on his early love for football, his obsession with Cristiano Ronaldo, and the American football influence he soaked up at home thanks to his dad. He reveals the moment he was told he’d never play for Wales after leaving Cardiff Blues — and how he proved everyone wrong by making his Test debut just years later.</p><br><p>He relives his proudest moment in a Wales jersey, what it meant to finally play in front of Welsh fans, and doesn’t shy away from the team’s recent struggles. There’s Lions chat too — from the surreal COVID tour that “felt like training games” to passing the torch (and mascot duties) on to Pollock.</p><br><p>Then it’s all eyes on the NFL. Rees-Zammit shares how he knew it was time to make the leap, the brutal reality of trying to make it in the States, and how it felt getting picked up by the Kansas City Chiefs. He reveals the physical toll of NFL training (rugby players beware), reflects on the massive life decision he faced at 22, and the inspiration he took from Travis Clayton. Oh — and there’s a surprise letter from Taylor Swift.</p><br><p>Finally, he answers the big question: could a return to rugby still be on the cards? And what has he come to love most about life in America?</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[George Gregan: Finn Russell Brilliance, Rugby League Offer & World Cup Glory | Stick to Rugby EP 21]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[George Gregan: Finn Russell Brilliance, Rugby League Offer & World Cup Glory | Stick to Rugby EP 21]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2025 06:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, sees hosts Lawrence Dallaglio, Louis Rees-Zammit, and Katy Daley-Mclean welcome Wallaby legend George Gregan for a fast-paced, story-packed deep dive into finals pressure, Rugby League rumours, and the magic of biggest moments.</p><br><p>Rees-Zammit reflects on the surreal moment he was picked for the Lions at 19, and the huge sense of relief when a defender pulled up just before a 1v1 in the final. He lifts the lid on Finn Russell’s leadership, his outrageous performance at the weekend — and why he's the guy that holds it all together. Gregan agrees… and admits Finn seriously worries him.</p><br><p>Gregan breaks down who to watch for the Wallabies this summer and gives his verdict on the Australia Women’s chances against the USA at the World Cup. He takes us back to that tackle on Jeff Wilson, winning the '99 World Cup, and the roar of 40,000 fans at the Hong Kong 7s. He also shares who inspired him growing up — and who really calls the shots in a team full of egos.</p><br><p>There’s code-switching chat too: Gregan on nearly jumping to Rugby League in the 90s — and Dallaglio revealing when the Bradford Bulls came knocking.</p><br><p>Plus, the panel break down Bath’s massive Premiership final win and share what makes a defining moment at the top level.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, sees hosts Lawrence Dallaglio, Louis Rees-Zammit, and Katy Daley-Mclean welcome Wallaby legend George Gregan for a fast-paced, story-packed deep dive into finals pressure, Rugby League rumours, and the magic of biggest moments.</p><br><p>Rees-Zammit reflects on the surreal moment he was picked for the Lions at 19, and the huge sense of relief when a defender pulled up just before a 1v1 in the final. He lifts the lid on Finn Russell’s leadership, his outrageous performance at the weekend — and why he's the guy that holds it all together. Gregan agrees… and admits Finn seriously worries him.</p><br><p>Gregan breaks down who to watch for the Wallabies this summer and gives his verdict on the Australia Women’s chances against the USA at the World Cup. He takes us back to that tackle on Jeff Wilson, winning the '99 World Cup, and the roar of 40,000 fans at the Hong Kong 7s. He also shares who inspired him growing up — and who really calls the shots in a team full of egos.</p><br><p>There’s code-switching chat too: Gregan on nearly jumping to Rugby League in the 90s — and Dallaglio revealing when the Bradford Bulls came knocking.</p><br><p>Plus, the panel break down Bath’s massive Premiership final win and share what makes a defining moment at the top level.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Rob Henderson: Irish Rugby Turning Point, Lions Tour Chaos & Meeting the Pope | Stick to Rugby EP 20]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Rob Henderson: Irish Rugby Turning Point, Lions Tour Chaos & Meeting the Pope | Stick to Rugby EP 20]]></itunes:title>
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			<title><![CDATA[Shaun Edwards Music Ban, Joe Marler’s Coleslaw Love & Bench Captain Secrets | Stick to Rugby EP 19]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Shaun Edwards Music Ban, Joe Marler’s Coleslaw Love & Bench Captain Secrets | Stick to Rugby EP 19]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2025 06:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Will Carling: England’s Youngest Captain, Leadership & Nelson Mandela Story! | Stick to Rugby EP 18]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Will Carling: England’s Youngest Captain, Leadership & Nelson Mandela Story! | Stick to Rugby EP 18]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2025 06:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Adam Jones: World Cup Pain, Steve Hansen Fallout & Lions Chaos? | Stick to Rugby EP 17]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Adam Jones: World Cup Pain, Steve Hansen Fallout & Lions Chaos? | Stick to Rugby EP 17]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2025 06:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Henry Pollock: Lions Call-Up, England Debut & Youngest Lion Tag! | Stick to Rugby EP 16]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Henry Pollock: Lions Call-Up, England Debut & Youngest Lion Tag! | Stick to Rugby EP 16]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2025 06:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes Henry Pollock to the panel alongside Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, Tom Shanklin and Scott Quinnell—fresh off the back of his Lions call-up.</p><br><p>Pollock opens up on how he found out—live on TV with no heads-up—and the chaos that followed, including a missed call to his mum and the emotional moment it all hit. He reflects on the Leinster semi-final as his “now or never” moment, how he’s coping with the hype, and why the pressure is only just beginning.</p><br><p>He also lifts the lid on his whirlwind rise—from schoolboy fancy dress to Lions selection in just 12 months—plus insight into the squad WhatsApp (or lack of one), meeting Maro Itoje, and what the Lions kit bag really means.</p><br><p>With talk of Northampton vs Leinster, the upcoming Champions Cup final, and how Pollock plans to prove why he’s been picked.</p><br><p>00:00 – Intro</p><p>06:01 – Behind the Scenes &amp; Delicacy of the Week</p><p>07:15 – WHO AM I? Panel Game</p><p>13:00 – Lions Call-Up Moment</p><p>14:40 – Henry’s Diogo Dalot Celebration</p><p>17:24 – Looking After BIL the Lion</p><p>20:25 – Messages from Famous Players</p><p>21:58 – Telling His Parents About the Lions Call-Up</p><p>23:06 – Henry’s Rapid Rise</p><p>24:34 – Early Lions Memories</p><p>26:00 – Tour Stories &amp; Squad Antics</p><p>29:35 – World Cup Win vs Lions Tour Win?</p><p>31:11 – Biggest Admission from the Squad</p><p>33:01 – Who Henry’s Most Excited to Meet</p><p>35:00 – Worst Roommate Story</p><p>35:55 – Family Sporting Background</p><p>38:07 – When Henry First Got into Rugby</p><p>39:20 – School Days &amp; Education Path</p><p>40:47 – Rugby Heroes Growing Up</p><p>42:50 – Youth Career &amp; Development</p><p>44:44 – Career Highlight (So Far)</p><p>51:15 – Drama of the Leinster Semi-Final</p><p>52:58 – Champions Cup Final vs Bordeaux</p><p>54:10 – Winning vs Losing: Henry’s Mindset</p><p>55:30 – Big Goals &amp; Ambitions</p><p>56:19 – Favourite Position on the Pitch</p><p>58:55 – Challenge Cup Predictions</p><p>1:02:07 – Pre-Season Plans</p><p>1:02:44 – Panel Quiz Finale!</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Warren Gatland: Divided Lions Camp, Brutal Selection Calls & Sexton vs Farrell | Stick to Rugby 15]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Warren Gatland: Divided Lions Camp, Brutal Selection Calls & Sexton vs Farrell | Stick to Rugby 15]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2025 06:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The latest special episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, sees Warren Gatland return to the panel alongside Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean and Tom Shanklin for a no-holds-barred look at the chaos, controversy and legacy of the British &amp; Irish Lions.</p><br><p>Back for his second appearance, Gatland reflects on the moments that shaped — and nearly sank — his time as Lions head coach. From off-field issues that split squads to the brutal selection calls he still stands by.</p><br><p>He opens up on the “clown nose” backlash, the fallout from dropping Brian O’Driscoll, and the tensions that ran through multiple tours. There’s insight on managing Sexton, the rivalry with Farrell, and the pressure that comes with leading the Lions.</p><br><p>Off the field, Gatland recalls a near-death experience abroad, the need to restore pride in the jersey, and the text Phil Vickery got from his mum after getting dropped.</p><br><p>A brutally honest conversation with one of rugby’s biggest coaching figures — this is the Lions, unfiltered.</p><br><p>🚨🔔 Subscribe now and hit the notification bell so you never miss an episode!</p><br><p>00:00 - Welcome Back Warren Gatland</p><p>00:30 - What Makes the Lions So Special?</p><p>01:19 - The Best Advice </p><p>03:11 - Teaser </p><p>04:10 - First Time Inside a Lions Camp</p><p>06:30 - Coaching His First Lions Tour</p><p>08:55 - 2005 vs 2009: A Tale of Two Tours</p><p>10:35 - Brutal Selection Calls &amp; Squad Morale</p><p>11:58 - Gatland’s Most Iconic Lions Games</p><p>14:41 - The Toughest Part of Coaching the Lions</p><p>17:01 - Schalk Burger’s Eye Gouge Incident</p><p>18:08 - O’Driscoll Concussion &amp; 2009 Injury Chaos</p><p>20:12 - Getting Close to Rival Nations</p><p>21:24 - Phil Vickery’s Mum </p><p>22:00 - Safari Story</p><p>22:58 - Comparing 2009 and 2013 Lions Tours</p><p>25:25 - Wales’ 2008 Tour of South Africa</p><p>26:31 - The Truth Behind Dropping Brian O’Driscoll</p><p>30:30 - Knowing When the Game’s in the Bag</p><p>34:07 - Inside the 2017 Lions Tour</p><p>38:33 - Taking on the New Zealand Media</p><p>43:45 - Reflections on Selections &amp; Leadership</p><p>44:22 - Drawing the 2017 Series</p><p>46:59 - Owen Farrell &amp; Managing Johnny Sexton</p><p>49:43 - Gatland’s Any Other Business</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>The latest special episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, sees Warren Gatland return to the panel alongside Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean and Tom Shanklin for a no-holds-barred look at the chaos, controversy and legacy of the British &amp; Irish Lions.</p><br><p>Back for his second appearance, Gatland reflects on the moments that shaped — and nearly sank — his time as Lions head coach. From off-field issues that split squads to the brutal selection calls he still stands by.</p><br><p>He opens up on the “clown nose” backlash, the fallout from dropping Brian O’Driscoll, and the tensions that ran through multiple tours. There’s insight on managing Sexton, the rivalry with Farrell, and the pressure that comes with leading the Lions.</p><br><p>Off the field, Gatland recalls a near-death experience abroad, the need to restore pride in the jersey, and the text Phil Vickery got from his mum after getting dropped.</p><br><p>A brutally honest conversation with one of rugby’s biggest coaching figures — this is the Lions, unfiltered.</p><br><p>🚨🔔 Subscribe now and hit the notification bell so you never miss an episode!</p><br><p>00:00 - Welcome Back Warren Gatland</p><p>00:30 - What Makes the Lions So Special?</p><p>01:19 - The Best Advice </p><p>03:11 - Teaser </p><p>04:10 - First Time Inside a Lions Camp</p><p>06:30 - Coaching His First Lions Tour</p><p>08:55 - 2005 vs 2009: A Tale of Two Tours</p><p>10:35 - Brutal Selection Calls &amp; Squad Morale</p><p>11:58 - Gatland’s Most Iconic Lions Games</p><p>14:41 - The Toughest Part of Coaching the Lions</p><p>17:01 - Schalk Burger’s Eye Gouge Incident</p><p>18:08 - O’Driscoll Concussion &amp; 2009 Injury Chaos</p><p>20:12 - Getting Close to Rival Nations</p><p>21:24 - Phil Vickery’s Mum </p><p>22:00 - Safari Story</p><p>22:58 - Comparing 2009 and 2013 Lions Tours</p><p>25:25 - Wales’ 2008 Tour of South Africa</p><p>26:31 - The Truth Behind Dropping Brian O’Driscoll</p><p>30:30 - Knowing When the Game’s in the Bag</p><p>34:07 - Inside the 2017 Lions Tour</p><p>38:33 - Taking on the New Zealand Media</p><p>43:45 - Reflections on Selections &amp; Leadership</p><p>44:22 - Drawing the 2017 Series</p><p>46:59 - Owen Farrell &amp; Managing Johnny Sexton</p><p>49:43 - Gatland’s Any Other Business</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Freddie Steward: Red Roses Grand Slam, Marcus Smith Rivalry & World Cup Run | Stick to Rugby EP 14]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Freddie Steward: Red Roses Grand Slam, Marcus Smith Rivalry & World Cup Run | Stick to Rugby EP 14]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2025 06:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes Freddie Steward to the panel alongside Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, Tom Shanklin, and Scott Quinnell for an exclusive deep dive into his England career, the Red Roses’ Grand Slam, and life at Leicester Tigers.</p><br><p>Steward opens up about the emotional rollercoaster of England’s World Cup semi-final heartbreak, how media pressure fuelled the squad, and the lasting impact of that South Africa defeat. He also lifts the lid on his rivalry with Marcus Smith, dealing with being dropped, and what it’s really like when a fly-half takes your shirt!</p><br><p>The panel dives into the Red Roses' Grand Slam triumph, the brutal difference between club and international rugby, and the fierce competition for England shirts.</p><br><p>Steward also reveals how working with sports psychologists transformed his career, why Ellis Genge’s leadership was crucial, and how Michael Cheika reignited Leicester’s charge this season.</p><br><p>And don’t miss Freddie’s verdict on the best full-back in world rugby right now!</p><br><p>A revealing and honest conversation with one of rugby’s fastest-rising stars—don’t miss it!</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Stuart Pearce: Health Scare, Rugby League Love & Paul Gascoigne Stories | Stick to Rugby EP 13]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Stuart Pearce: Health Scare, Rugby League Love & Paul Gascoigne Stories | Stick to Rugby EP 13]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2025 06:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Phil Vickery: First Lions Tour, Battling 'The Beast' & Personal Recovery! | Stick to Rugby EP 12]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Phil Vickery: First Lions Tour, Battling 'The Beast' & Personal Recovery! | Stick to Rugby EP 12]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2025 06:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes World Cup winner Phil Vickery to the panel alongside Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, Tom Shanklin and Scott Quinnell for an emotional, hilarious and no-holds-barred look at life in and out of the game.</p><br><p>Vickery opens up on the fear of failure that fuelled his career, how farming forged his toughness, and what it was like getting cited and banned on his England debut. </p><br><p>He relives the brutal battles against South Africa’s ‘Beast’, reflects on sharing the pitch with legends like Julian White and Tom Smith, and gives a heartfelt tribute to his father and what it meant having him in the stands for the World Cup final.</p><br><p>There’s talk of Lions tours, training with John Thomas and Simon Shaw, and the unforgettable moment Shaun Edwards made him cry. Plus: how he found purpose after rugby and his surprising passion for bodybuilding.</p><br><p>The crew also dive into the Women’s Six Nations, why Phil prefers watching the women’s game, and which Red Roses star he’d pay to watch.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Joe Marler: Eddie Jones Era, World Cup What-Ifs & Celebrity Traitors? | Stick to Rugby EP 11]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Joe Marler: Eddie Jones Era, World Cup What-Ifs & Celebrity Traitors? | Stick to Rugby EP 11]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 06:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, features a no-holds-barred chat with Joe Marler as he opens up about life after rugby, retirement, and the Celebrity Traitors rumours.</p><br><p>In this big sit-down since stepping away from the game, Joe gets candid about why he “couldn’t go on,” his unexpected call to Jimmy Bullard, the real reason he walked away mid-season, and what he misses (and doesn’t) about rugby life.</p><br><p>He also reveals the strange gigs he’s said “yes” to since retiring—including pretending to be a dog—and how he’s navigating post-rugby purpose, parenting, and mental health.</p><br><p>Plus, the panel grill Joe on the Traitors rumours. Has he been cast? Was he Andy Murray’s replacement? And what kind of player would he actually be: traitor or faithful?</p><br><p>There’s also chat about greyhounds, scrummaging, being “distracted, disruptive and rude” at school, and why he’s now working directly with Team England in a unique new role.</p><br><p>A funny, raw, and refreshingly honest conversation with one of rugby’s most unpredictable characters—don’t miss it.</p><br><p><em>Check out the amazing tool Lawrence mentions on this episode where you can educate yourself on all topics from people with lived experience and experts - The step before talking -&nbsp;</em><a href="http://www.jaaq.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>www.jaaq.org</em></a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Red Roses Win, Owen Farrell Lions Call-Up? & Quinnell & Dallaglio Hug It Out! | Stick to Rugby EP 10]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Red Roses Win, Owen Farrell Lions Call-Up? & Quinnell & Dallaglio Hug It Out! | Stick to Rugby EP 10]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2025 07:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes Welsh legend Scott Quinnell to the panel alongside Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, and Tom Shanklin for a rollicking ride through rugby’s past, present, and future.</p><br><p>Quinnell talks about his unmatched Welsh rugby bloodline, the moment he nearly dropped the ball before Scott Gibbs’ iconic try, and why Lawrence’s Wembley heartbreak might’ve led to England’s World Cup success. From Austin Healy’s £35,000 Rolex blunder to wild tales of Wigan’s sevens dream team–no story is off-limits.</p><br><p>The crew also relive their worst days in rugby, get nostalgic about the Five Nations era, and debate the modern game’s professionalism in “You Couldn’t Get Away With That Now.”</p><br><p>Plus, the latest on the Women’s Six Nations, Red Roses dominance, and who might make the 2025 Lions squad—with bold claims about Tomos Williams, Henry Pollock, and Talupe Faletau.</p><br><p>And don’t miss Quinnell’s take on Andy Farrell’s coaching rise, Shaun Edwards' Wembley red card, and the secret Lions selection dinner with his dad!</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Ellie Kildunne: World Player of the Year, Women’s Game Growth & Social Media | Stick to Rugby EP 9]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Ellie Kildunne: World Player of the Year, Women’s Game Growth & Social Media | Stick to Rugby EP 9]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2025 12:05:19 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes World Player of the Year Ellie Kildunne to the panel alongside Katy Daley-Mclean, Lawrence Dallaglio, and Tom Shanklin for a wide-ranging and inspiring chat on stardom, pressure, and what’s next for the women’s game.</p><br><p>Ellie opens up on the whirlwind journey from A-Levels to being crowned the best in the world, how she handles the pressure of expectation, and why she’s never tried to be anyone but herself. She discusses the challenges of life as a dual-career athlete, being made redundant during COVID, and her Olympic dream that almost slipped away.</p><br><p>Away from the pitch, Ellie reveals how photography became her creative escape and why she believes it helped her feel truly understood. Plus, the panel dives into the growth of the women’s game, how players can harness social media to become household names, and what England must do to win the World Cup on home soil.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes World Player of the Year Ellie Kildunne to the panel alongside Katy Daley-Mclean, Lawrence Dallaglio, and Tom Shanklin for a wide-ranging and inspiring chat on stardom, pressure, and what’s next for the women’s game.</p><br><p>Ellie opens up on the whirlwind journey from A-Levels to being crowned the best in the world, how she handles the pressure of expectation, and why she’s never tried to be anyone but herself. She discusses the challenges of life as a dual-career athlete, being made redundant during COVID, and her Olympic dream that almost slipped away.</p><br><p>Away from the pitch, Ellie reveals how photography became her creative escape and why she believes it helped her feel truly understood. Plus, the panel dives into the growth of the women’s game, how players can harness social media to become household names, and what England must do to win the World Cup on home soil.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[England’s BIG Win, Joe Marler on Retirement & Marlie Packer Losing Captaincy | Stick to Rugby EP 8]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[England’s BIG Win, Joe Marler on Retirement & Marlie Packer Losing Captaincy | Stick to Rugby EP 8]]></itunes:title>
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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, sees Joe Marler &amp; Marlie Packer join Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, and Tom Shanklin for a no-holds-barred breakdown of the Six Nations, mental health in rugby, and the realities of life after the game.</p><br><p>Marler and Packer reflect on England’s emphatic win over Wales and whether this was a turning point for Steve Borthwick’s side. They also preview the Women’s Six Nations, discussing the contenders, England’s dominance, and what to expect from the tournament.</p><br><p>Marlie shares her raw emotions on losing the England captaincy, what it meant to step back, and whether she ever considered walking away from the sport altogether. Meanwhile, Joe opens up about retirement—both the fear of stepping away and the lack of aftercare rugby offers once players hang up their boots.</p><br><p>The panel also breaks down the PWR Final, Marlie’s take on the intensity of the competition, and what it means for the future of the women’s game.</p><br><p>The conversation expands into the bigger picture of mental health in rugby, the pressures of leadership, and why so many players feel lost when their careers come to an end.</p><br><p>⚠️ This episode includes discussions on mental health. If you or someone you know is struggling, visit one of the following organisations:&nbsp;</p><br><p>Samaritans - https://www.samaritans.org/</p><p>NSPCC - https://www.nspcc.org.uk/</p><p>FRANK - https://www.talktofrank.com/</p><p>Mind - https://www.mind.org.uk/</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Warren Gatland: Wales Exit, Captaining Warburton & Has Rugby Gone Soft? | Stick to Rugby EP 7 ]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Warren Gatland: Wales Exit, Captaining Warburton & Has Rugby Gone Soft? | Stick to Rugby EP 7 ]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2025 07:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes Warren Gatland to the panel alongside David Flatman, Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, and Tom Shanklin for an exclusive deep dive into his Wales exit, coaching highs, and the future of rugby.</p><br><p>Gatland opens up about the emotional decision to return to Wales, the brutal challenges he faced, and whether he has any regrets. He reveals how the pressure of 14 straight defeats impacted him and the squad, why he never tried to protect himself, and whether he feels let down by former players.</p><p>The panel also revisits his Wasps legacy, what made that team so dominant, and how coaching Brian O’Driscoll shaped his early career. And, of course, there’s plenty of Lions talk—from selection secrets to why Marcus Smith has to be in the squad.</p><br><p>Plus, Gatland’s take on rugby’s bomb squad debate—should World Rugby step in?—and why he thinks Australia will be dangerous on the upcoming Lions tour.</p><br><p>A brutally honest conversation with one of rugby’s biggest coaching figures—don’t miss it!</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes Warren Gatland to the panel alongside David Flatman, Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, and Tom Shanklin for an exclusive deep dive into his Wales exit, coaching highs, and the future of rugby.</p><br><p>Gatland opens up about the emotional decision to return to Wales, the brutal challenges he faced, and whether he has any regrets. He reveals how the pressure of 14 straight defeats impacted him and the squad, why he never tried to protect himself, and whether he feels let down by former players.</p><p>The panel also revisits his Wasps legacy, what made that team so dominant, and how coaching Brian O’Driscoll shaped his early career. And, of course, there’s plenty of Lions talk—from selection secrets to why Marcus Smith has to be in the squad.</p><br><p>Plus, Gatland’s take on rugby’s bomb squad debate—should World Rugby step in?—and why he thinks Australia will be dangerous on the upcoming Lions tour.</p><br><p>A brutally honest conversation with one of rugby’s biggest coaching figures—don’t miss it!</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Cadan Murley: England Debut, Taylor Swift Love Story & Marcus Smith Experiment | Stick to Rugby EP 6]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Cadan Murley: England Debut, Taylor Swift Love Story & Marcus Smith Experiment | Stick to Rugby EP 6]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2025 07:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of <strong>Stick to Rugby</strong>, brought to you by Defender, welcomes <strong>Cadan Murley</strong> to the panel alongside <strong>David Flatman, Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, and Tom Shanklin</strong> for a deep dive into the Six Nations, England’s tactics, and Murley’s whirlwind debut.</p><br><p>Murley opens up about the <strong>highs and lows of his England debut</strong>, from <strong>scoring with his second touch</strong> to the <strong>harsh realities of international rugby</strong>. He reflects on the <strong>injury setback</strong> that cut his Six Nations dream short and reveals the <strong>hilarious debut initiation song he belted out in front of the England and Ireland squads</strong>.</p><br><p>The conversation turns to <strong>England’s style of play</strong>—is their attack too conservative? Murley weighs in on the <strong>Marcus Smith fullback experiment</strong>, his <strong>close friendship with the playmaker</strong>, and whether England’s <strong>attack is being limited by their system</strong>. The panel also debates <strong>Finn Smith vs Marcus Smith for England’s No.10 shirt</strong> and <strong>how England can take their game to the next level</strong>.</p><br><p>Elsewhere, the team discuss <strong>Ireland’s intensity and ability to disrupt opponents</strong>, the <strong>brilliance of Antoine Dupont</strong>, and whether <strong>Scotland are under pressure heading into the final rounds</strong>. Plus, Murley gives his take on <strong>the future of England rugby, the next generation of stars, and what it will take for the squad to become one of the best teams in the world</strong>.</p><br><p>A brilliant mix of <strong>insight, debate, and behind-the-scenes rugby stories</strong>—don’t miss it!</p><br><p><strong>To find out how Funding Circle can help get your business goals over the line, visit&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://fundingcircle.com/rugby" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠https://fundingcircle.com/rugby</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of <strong>Stick to Rugby</strong>, brought to you by Defender, welcomes <strong>Cadan Murley</strong> to the panel alongside <strong>David Flatman, Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, and Tom Shanklin</strong> for a deep dive into the Six Nations, England’s tactics, and Murley’s whirlwind debut.</p><br><p>Murley opens up about the <strong>highs and lows of his England debut</strong>, from <strong>scoring with his second touch</strong> to the <strong>harsh realities of international rugby</strong>. He reflects on the <strong>injury setback</strong> that cut his Six Nations dream short and reveals the <strong>hilarious debut initiation song he belted out in front of the England and Ireland squads</strong>.</p><br><p>The conversation turns to <strong>England’s style of play</strong>—is their attack too conservative? Murley weighs in on the <strong>Marcus Smith fullback experiment</strong>, his <strong>close friendship with the playmaker</strong>, and whether England’s <strong>attack is being limited by their system</strong>. The panel also debates <strong>Finn Smith vs Marcus Smith for England’s No.10 shirt</strong> and <strong>how England can take their game to the next level</strong>.</p><br><p>Elsewhere, the team discuss <strong>Ireland’s intensity and ability to disrupt opponents</strong>, the <strong>brilliance of Antoine Dupont</strong>, and whether <strong>Scotland are under pressure heading into the final rounds</strong>. Plus, Murley gives his take on <strong>the future of England rugby, the next generation of stars, and what it will take for the squad to become one of the best teams in the world</strong>.</p><br><p>A brilliant mix of <strong>insight, debate, and behind-the-scenes rugby stories</strong>—don’t miss it!</p><br><p><strong>To find out how Funding Circle can help get your business goals over the line, visit&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://fundingcircle.com/rugby" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠https://fundingcircle.com/rugby</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Six Nations Fallout, Rugby’s Dark Arts & Bold Lions Predictions | Stick to Rugby EP 5]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Six Nations Fallout, Rugby’s Dark Arts & Bold Lions Predictions | Stick to Rugby EP 5]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2025 07:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, gets stuck into the dark arts of rugby—who are the true masters of the game’s most controversial tactics, what really happens at the breakdown, and how far teams will go to get an edge.</p><br><p>Then, it’s all about the Six Nations fallout—was Scotland tactically better despite the loss? Are England just not good to watch? And did Wales take confidence from their near-miss against France? The panel also debate whether Damian Penaud’s performance raised questions or silenced critics.</p><br><p>Next up, it’s British &amp; Irish Lions selection talk—should Marcus Smith be on the plane? Who’s making a late push for a spot, and which players have already locked themselves in?</p><br><p>Finally, the conversation takes a personal turn as the panel shares the moment they knew it was time to retire—how tough is it mentally, what happens when your body can’t take it anymore, and is stepping away ever truly on your own terms?</p><br><p>A massive episode packed with rugby’s dark arts, Six Nations drama, bold Lions predictions, and emotional retirement stories—don’t miss it!</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Jodie Ounsley: Rugby vs Gladiators – What’s Tougher? | Stick to Rugby EP 4</title>
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			<title><![CDATA[Eddie Jones: Coaching the Lions? England Regrets & What He’d Do Differently | Stick to Rugby EP 3]]></title>
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			<title><![CDATA[England Run Out Of Gas & Shaun Edwards Untold Stories | Stick to Rugby EP 2]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Feb 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>The First Ever Stick to Rugby with Martin Johnson!</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2025 05:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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