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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[Balancing at the crossroads between business and mindfulness, fashion exec turned brand consultant and mindfulness teacher, Anne Muhlethaler,  entertains conversations with friends, designers, entrepreneurs, meditation and yoga teachers, weaving their stories into a inspirational platform for a reflection on living.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.saskiawheeler.co.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Saskia Wheeler</a> is a strategist and researcher working at the intersection of neuroscience and design, translating cognitive and sensory science into frameworks that guide how creative work is felt and experienced. For the past six years, she has worked with designers, agencies and hospitality brands to help them close the gap between the experience they intend to create and the one people actually feel. Saskia studied philosophy at <a href="https://www.tcd.ie/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Trinity College Dublin</a> before completing a Master's in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroesthetics" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Neuroaesthetics</a> at <a href="https://www.gold.ac.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Goldsmiths, University of London.</a></p><br><p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, Saskia tells Anne about her upbringing in a creative London household (her mother was an art director who often had photographers living in the family home) and how she developed an early sensitivity to the way art and design bring atmosphere and meaning to everyday environments. Drawn to questions of consciousness and perception, she explains what led her from philosophy to neuroaesthetics, and why she felt she could not go further into questions of consciousness without first understanding the brain.</p><br><p>Saskia and Anne discuss what neuroaesthetics actually is: the scientific study of how art, design, music and architecture measurably change our brains and bodies. Still a relatively young field, it draws on rigorous research to show that beauty and aesthetic experience are not decorative concerns but deeply embedded in how we evolved. The most surprising thing Saskia has learned in the field: just how deeply wired we are to respond to beauty.</p><br><p>She also shares an insight that sits at the crossroads of philosophy and neuroscience and that has stayed with her since her studies: that lived experience is not simply made up of what we perceive in the present moment. It is co-created by our past memories, which don't merely inform the present but actually shape and in part create it. This is why two people can occupy the same space and have entirely different experiences of it, and why, Saskia reflects, understanding this has given her more compassion for herself and others.</p><br><p>Saskia and Anne discuss the applications of neuroarchitecture and design, and what the research tells us about what makes spaces feel good to be in. Saskia identifies three things people value most: homeness (warmth and comfort), coherence (how well the space meets expectations and guides movement through it) and fascination (how much it surprises and interests). She also makes the case for touch as the most underestimated sense when it comes to comfort, linked to the neurochemical oxytocin and the experience of trust, and explains why this extends beyond physical contact with other people to the materials we come into contact with in our environments.</p><br><p>Creativity is also an emerging area within neuroaesthetics, and Saskia speaks about it as an increasingly recognised fifth pillar of health and wellbeing, alongside exercise, sleep, nutrition and social connection. What she says here is worth sitting with: the benefits of creativity come from the expression and the doing, rather than the output. The inner critic is so often the biggest obstacle, because creativity has long been tied to being good at something rather than simply doing it. Anne and Saskia also share a practice: both are devoted morning pages writers.</p><br><p>The conversation also touches on cognitive load and clutter (including research suggesting that disorganisation in our environments creates low-level vigilance even when we are not consciously aware of it), biophilic design, the science of lighting, and Anne's own plans for Le Trente, a social learning studio she is developing in Geneva.</p><br><p>A rich exchange with a thinker who is quietly changing how the built world gets made. Happy listening!</p><br><p><strong>Selected links</strong> </p><p>Connect with Saskia:</p><ul><li>Saskia Wheeler on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neuro.aesthetic/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@neuro.aesthetic</a></li><li>Website: <a href="https://www.saskiawheeler.co.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.saskiawheeler.co.uk/</a></li><li>Linkedin: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/saskiawheeler/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/saskiawheeler/</a></li></ul><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.saskiawheeler.co.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Saskia Wheeler</a> is a strategist and researcher working at the intersection of neuroscience and design, translating cognitive and sensory science into frameworks that guide how creative work is felt and experienced. For the past six years, she has worked with designers, agencies and hospitality brands to help them close the gap between the experience they intend to create and the one people actually feel. Saskia studied philosophy at <a href="https://www.tcd.ie/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Trinity College Dublin</a> before completing a Master's in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroesthetics" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Neuroaesthetics</a> at <a href="https://www.gold.ac.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Goldsmiths, University of London.</a></p><br><p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, Saskia tells Anne about her upbringing in a creative London household (her mother was an art director who often had photographers living in the family home) and how she developed an early sensitivity to the way art and design bring atmosphere and meaning to everyday environments. Drawn to questions of consciousness and perception, she explains what led her from philosophy to neuroaesthetics, and why she felt she could not go further into questions of consciousness without first understanding the brain.</p><br><p>Saskia and Anne discuss what neuroaesthetics actually is: the scientific study of how art, design, music and architecture measurably change our brains and bodies. Still a relatively young field, it draws on rigorous research to show that beauty and aesthetic experience are not decorative concerns but deeply embedded in how we evolved. The most surprising thing Saskia has learned in the field: just how deeply wired we are to respond to beauty.</p><br><p>She also shares an insight that sits at the crossroads of philosophy and neuroscience and that has stayed with her since her studies: that lived experience is not simply made up of what we perceive in the present moment. It is co-created by our past memories, which don't merely inform the present but actually shape and in part create it. This is why two people can occupy the same space and have entirely different experiences of it, and why, Saskia reflects, understanding this has given her more compassion for herself and others.</p><br><p>Saskia and Anne discuss the applications of neuroarchitecture and design, and what the research tells us about what makes spaces feel good to be in. Saskia identifies three things people value most: homeness (warmth and comfort), coherence (how well the space meets expectations and guides movement through it) and fascination (how much it surprises and interests). She also makes the case for touch as the most underestimated sense when it comes to comfort, linked to the neurochemical oxytocin and the experience of trust, and explains why this extends beyond physical contact with other people to the materials we come into contact with in our environments.</p><br><p>Creativity is also an emerging area within neuroaesthetics, and Saskia speaks about it as an increasingly recognised fifth pillar of health and wellbeing, alongside exercise, sleep, nutrition and social connection. What she says here is worth sitting with: the benefits of creativity come from the expression and the doing, rather than the output. The inner critic is so often the biggest obstacle, because creativity has long been tied to being good at something rather than simply doing it. Anne and Saskia also share a practice: both are devoted morning pages writers.</p><br><p>The conversation also touches on cognitive load and clutter (including research suggesting that disorganisation in our environments creates low-level vigilance even when we are not consciously aware of it), biophilic design, the science of lighting, and Anne's own plans for Le Trente, a social learning studio she is developing in Geneva.</p><br><p>A rich exchange with a thinker who is quietly changing how the built world gets made. Happy listening!</p><br><p><strong>Selected links</strong> </p><p>Connect with Saskia:</p><ul><li>Saskia Wheeler on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neuro.aesthetic/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@neuro.aesthetic</a></li><li>Website: <a href="https://www.saskiawheeler.co.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.saskiawheeler.co.uk/</a></li><li>Linkedin: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/saskiawheeler/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/saskiawheeler/</a></li></ul><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Mühlethaler welcomes back Caitlin Krause for their second conversation. Caitlin is a globally recognised experience designer, educator, author and founder of <em>MindWise</em>, whose work spans <em>digital wellbeing, immersive design, contemplative practice and creative expression</em>. She holds an MFA in poetry, has taught internationally across Belgium and Switzerland, and built the digital wellbeing program about wellbeing and technology at Stanford University. She teaches at the University of Oregon. She advises organisations including TED, The U.S. Air Force, LinkedIn, Google, Meta, Oracle, Evernote, and the U.S. State Department.&nbsp;Caitlin creates human-centered experiences mediated by technology, fusing creativity, meditation, storytelling, collaboration, and emotional intelligence for full life thriving. She is the author of six books, including her most recent work on digital wellbeing and a forthcoming collection of poetry, <em>Poems of Root and Light.</em> Caitlin and Anne first met at TED 2023, whose theme that year was <em>Possibilities</em> — and the thread of possibility runs through their exchange.</p><br><p>Anne and Caitlin discuss her newest book, <em>Digital Wellbeing, A transformative guide to thriving in the digital age</em>. The conversation explores the etymology of the word 'digital' itself — a thread Caitlin traces from the digits of the hand through Shakespeare's Lady Macbeth to the immersive computing she works with today. Caitlin speaks to her motivation behind the book: not to produce a manual of healthy habits, nor to surrender to the idea that the machines have already won, but to offer an entry point for people to approach digital technology with less fear and hopefully less overwhelm that so many leaders and teams experience.The book is designed around the conviction that your body is your testing ground, that you get to have your experience and own it, and that the question of technology is ultimately a question of being.</p><p>Caitlin's framework for immersive design, seven themes she calls the seven Es, anchored in what she describes as wonder-rich spatial computing design, runs through the conversation as both a professional methodology and a personal philosophy.&nbsp;</p><br><p>Anne and Caitlin also discuss Caitlin's Shadow Storytelling experience, in which she guided participants from a Zoom call into a shared metaverse landscape for a meditation and storytelling session built around Jungian themes, winter imagery and candlelit caves. Both women explore the question of technology as a dance partner rather than a destination, and what it means to be the embodied physical human deciding how and whether to layer with it.</p><br><p>Caitlin also tells the story of how the spirit of play, cultivated through an itinerant childhood in a foreign service family, has directly informed her pedagogy and her approach to guiding people into transformative experiences through technology. The conversation closes with Caitlin reading two poems from her forthcoming collection — 'The Middle Path' and the title poem 'Root and Light' — bringing the episode to a still and luminous end.</p><p><br></p><h2><strong>Connect with Caitlin</strong></h2><ul><li>Caitlin's website: <a href="https://www.caitlinkrause.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">caitlinkrause.com</a></li><li>MindWise — <a href="https://www.caitlinkrause.com/consulting" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Caitlin's consultancy</a></li><li>Poems of Root and Light — forthcoming poetry collection</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Satori-Caitlin-Krause/dp/B0BZF2696H" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Digital Satori </a>— Caitlin's 2023 poetry collection</li><li>Caitlin’s upcoming course at Kripalu Centre ‘<a href="https://kripalu.org/experiences/awakening-awe-somatic-self-care-wonder-and-restoration?sku=18439050" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Awakening Awe</a>’:&nbsp;</li></ul><p><br></p><h2>Referenced in the episode:</h2><h2><br></h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.johnodonohue.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John O'Donohue</a> — Irish poet and philosopher</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Graham" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Martha Graham</a> — choreographer and dance pioneer, quoted in the episode</li><li><a href="https://davidwhyte.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">David Whyte</a> — poet and author whose work Caitlin references</li><li><a href="https://www.joyharjo.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joy Harjo</a> — poet, referenced by Caitlin</li><li><a href="https://www.ursulakleguin.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ursula K. Le Guin</a> — writer, whose quote about 'there, there' Caitlin shares</li><li><a href="https://www.estherperel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Esther Perel</a> — referenced for her TED moment about putting down our phones</li><li><a href="https://www.weforum.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">World Economic Forum</a> — referenced in the context of new wellbeing metrics</li><li><a href="https://www.annevmuhlethaler.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Story of You</a> — Anne's coaching methodology</li></ul><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Mühlethaler welcomes back Caitlin Krause for their second conversation. Caitlin is a globally recognised experience designer, educator, author and founder of <em>MindWise</em>, whose work spans <em>digital wellbeing, immersive design, contemplative practice and creative expression</em>. She holds an MFA in poetry, has taught internationally across Belgium and Switzerland, and built the digital wellbeing program about wellbeing and technology at Stanford University. She teaches at the University of Oregon. She advises organisations including TED, The U.S. Air Force, LinkedIn, Google, Meta, Oracle, Evernote, and the U.S. State Department.&nbsp;Caitlin creates human-centered experiences mediated by technology, fusing creativity, meditation, storytelling, collaboration, and emotional intelligence for full life thriving. She is the author of six books, including her most recent work on digital wellbeing and a forthcoming collection of poetry, <em>Poems of Root and Light.</em> Caitlin and Anne first met at TED 2023, whose theme that year was <em>Possibilities</em> — and the thread of possibility runs through their exchange.</p><br><p>Anne and Caitlin discuss her newest book, <em>Digital Wellbeing, A transformative guide to thriving in the digital age</em>. The conversation explores the etymology of the word 'digital' itself — a thread Caitlin traces from the digits of the hand through Shakespeare's Lady Macbeth to the immersive computing she works with today. Caitlin speaks to her motivation behind the book: not to produce a manual of healthy habits, nor to surrender to the idea that the machines have already won, but to offer an entry point for people to approach digital technology with less fear and hopefully less overwhelm that so many leaders and teams experience.The book is designed around the conviction that your body is your testing ground, that you get to have your experience and own it, and that the question of technology is ultimately a question of being.</p><p>Caitlin's framework for immersive design, seven themes she calls the seven Es, anchored in what she describes as wonder-rich spatial computing design, runs through the conversation as both a professional methodology and a personal philosophy.&nbsp;</p><br><p>Anne and Caitlin also discuss Caitlin's Shadow Storytelling experience, in which she guided participants from a Zoom call into a shared metaverse landscape for a meditation and storytelling session built around Jungian themes, winter imagery and candlelit caves. Both women explore the question of technology as a dance partner rather than a destination, and what it means to be the embodied physical human deciding how and whether to layer with it.</p><br><p>Caitlin also tells the story of how the spirit of play, cultivated through an itinerant childhood in a foreign service family, has directly informed her pedagogy and her approach to guiding people into transformative experiences through technology. The conversation closes with Caitlin reading two poems from her forthcoming collection — 'The Middle Path' and the title poem 'Root and Light' — bringing the episode to a still and luminous end.</p><p><br></p><h2><strong>Connect with Caitlin</strong></h2><ul><li>Caitlin's website: <a href="https://www.caitlinkrause.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">caitlinkrause.com</a></li><li>MindWise — <a href="https://www.caitlinkrause.com/consulting" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Caitlin's consultancy</a></li><li>Poems of Root and Light — forthcoming poetry collection</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Satori-Caitlin-Krause/dp/B0BZF2696H" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Digital Satori </a>— Caitlin's 2023 poetry collection</li><li>Caitlin’s upcoming course at Kripalu Centre ‘<a href="https://kripalu.org/experiences/awakening-awe-somatic-self-care-wonder-and-restoration?sku=18439050" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Awakening Awe</a>’:&nbsp;</li></ul><p><br></p><h2>Referenced in the episode:</h2><h2><br></h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.johnodonohue.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John O'Donohue</a> — Irish poet and philosopher</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Graham" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Martha Graham</a> — choreographer and dance pioneer, quoted in the episode</li><li><a href="https://davidwhyte.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">David Whyte</a> — poet and author whose work Caitlin references</li><li><a href="https://www.joyharjo.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joy Harjo</a> — poet, referenced by Caitlin</li><li><a href="https://www.ursulakleguin.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ursula K. Le Guin</a> — writer, whose quote about 'there, there' Caitlin shares</li><li><a href="https://www.estherperel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Esther Perel</a> — referenced for her TED moment about putting down our phones</li><li><a href="https://www.weforum.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">World Economic Forum</a> — referenced in the context of new wellbeing metrics</li><li><a href="https://www.annevmuhlethaler.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Story of You</a> — Anne's coaching methodology</li></ul><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Katia Dayan Vladimirova on degrowth, the bubble of fast fashion and the creativity of constraint</title>
			<itunes:title>Katia Dayan Vladimirova on degrowth, the bubble of fast fashion and the creativity of constraint</itunes:title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne V. Mühlethaler welcomes Katia Dayan Vladimirova, a senior sustainability policy expert with almost fifteen years of research experience at the intersection of fashion, policy, and social change. Katia is the founder of the Post Growth Fashion Agency, a boutique advisory service working with local and national governments and NGOs to transform how we consume and dispose of fashion. She is also the author of the Substack Post Growth Fashion, the founder of the International Research Network on Sustainable Fashion Consumption — now hosted at Yale and bringing together close to 180 researchers globally — and the founder of Well Rounded, the first plastic-free underwear brand made in Europe, with a supply chain traced all the way to cotton fields in Greece. She holds a double PhD in climate ethics and political science, and has studied and worked at institutions including the London School of Economics, MIT, ULB in Brussels, LUISS in Rome, and UNIGE in Geneva.</p><br><p>The conversation begins with Katia sharing her story. Anne and Katia then get into the ideas at the heart of Katia's work. She unpacks degrowth and sufficiency, making the case that the labels do these concepts a disservice, since studies show overwhelming public support for the underlying principles once they are actually explained. Applied to fashion, she is interested not in restricting creativity but in shifting how we experience clothing: through swapping, renting, repairing, community events, and a deeper relationship with what we already own. She talks about the Rule of Five, how we would each need to limit ourselves to in order to stay within the planetary boundaries aligned with the Paris Agreement's target. The pair also discuss the role of cities in managing textile waste and Katia's work with Geneva, Luxembourg, Amsterdam, and others to make sustainable fashion alternatives viable at a local level. She notes that in Geneva, only 3% of donated garments are redistributed locally; the rest enter a global stream that ends up, in large part, in open-air landfills in West Africa. Katia then shares the argument at the heart of her essay The Trojan Horse of Fashion: that the oversupply of secondhand. itself a product of fast fashion overproduction, is creating a bubble that will burst within five to ten years, forcing a major restructuring of the industry. An exceptionally knowledgeable, warm, and surprisingly joyful conversation on one of the most urgent topics of our time. Happy listening!</p><br><p><br></p><h2>Connect with Katia Dayan Vladimirova:</h2><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/katia-dayan-vladimirova/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Find Katia on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://postgrowthfashion.substack.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Post Growth Fashion Substack</a></p><p><a href="https://www.postgrowthfashion.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Post Growth Fashion Agency</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sustainablefashionconsumption.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">International Research Network on Sustainable Fashion Consumption</a></p><p><a href="https://www.well-rounded.ch/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Well Rounded</a> — Katia's circular underwear brand</p><br><p><br></p><h2>Referenced in the episode:</h2><p><a href="https://truecostmovie.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The True Cost movie — Documentary (2014) directed by Andrew Morgan</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rana_Plaza_collapse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rana Plaza</a> — Background on the 2013 factory collapse in Dhaka, Bangladesh</p><p><a href="https://hotorcool.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot Cool Institute</a> — Berlin-based think tank; co-authors of the 2022 global fashion consumption report</p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2024/jan/09/could-you-commit-to-buying-just-five-new-items-of-clothing-in-a-year" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rule of Five</a> — Campaign inspired by the five-garment-per-year finding</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Agreement" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Paris Agreement </a>— The 2015 climate accord and its 1.5-degree target</p><p><a href="https://www.vestiairecollective.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vestiaire Collective</a> — Secondhand platform referenced by Anne</p><p><a href="https://hut.lu/en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">HUT / Caritas Luxembourg</a> — One-stop sustainable fashion hub in Luxembourg</p><p><a href="https://katefletcher.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Fletcher </a>— Pioneer in sustainable fashion, featured in Katia's webinar series</p><p><a href="https://researchers.arts.ac.uk/1064-dilys-williams" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dilys Williams </a>— Sustainable fashion academic, featured in Katia's webinar series</p><p><a href="https://www.jasonhickel.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jason Hickel</a> — Degrowth scholar referenced in the conversation</p><p><a href="https://bemorewithless.com/project-333/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Project 333</a> — Capsule wardrobe challenge referenced in the conversation</p><p><a href="https://gabrielahearst.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoqIsGpKxgL2ILDxHdHAuvQiOsDSB3rEVVpCe8byVa4_JrWyz1wd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gabriela Hearst</a> — Designer referenced by Anne for her approach to materials</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Kuwata" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Satoshi Kuwata </a>— Milan-based designer mentioned by Katia as an example of genuine creative resilience</p><p><a href="https://www.drtimlomas.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tim Lomas</a> — Positive psychology professor, featured in an earlier <a href="https://podlink.com/1516245733/episode/YTAxZWU4MGItOWVlNy00ZGFjLWE5ZjQtMjhiMzMxY2QxMmE3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Out of the Clouds episode</a>, </p><p><strong>Your Story Your Map:</strong> — a contemplative guide to help you trace the arc of your life with intention. <a href="https://letrente.kit.com/products/your-story-your-map" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>Get it here</u></a></p><br><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne V. Mühlethaler welcomes Katia Dayan Vladimirova, a senior sustainability policy expert with almost fifteen years of research experience at the intersection of fashion, policy, and social change. Katia is the founder of the Post Growth Fashion Agency, a boutique advisory service working with local and national governments and NGOs to transform how we consume and dispose of fashion. She is also the author of the Substack Post Growth Fashion, the founder of the International Research Network on Sustainable Fashion Consumption — now hosted at Yale and bringing together close to 180 researchers globally — and the founder of Well Rounded, the first plastic-free underwear brand made in Europe, with a supply chain traced all the way to cotton fields in Greece. She holds a double PhD in climate ethics and political science, and has studied and worked at institutions including the London School of Economics, MIT, ULB in Brussels, LUISS in Rome, and UNIGE in Geneva.</p><br><p>The conversation begins with Katia sharing her story. Anne and Katia then get into the ideas at the heart of Katia's work. She unpacks degrowth and sufficiency, making the case that the labels do these concepts a disservice, since studies show overwhelming public support for the underlying principles once they are actually explained. Applied to fashion, she is interested not in restricting creativity but in shifting how we experience clothing: through swapping, renting, repairing, community events, and a deeper relationship with what we already own. She talks about the Rule of Five, how we would each need to limit ourselves to in order to stay within the planetary boundaries aligned with the Paris Agreement's target. The pair also discuss the role of cities in managing textile waste and Katia's work with Geneva, Luxembourg, Amsterdam, and others to make sustainable fashion alternatives viable at a local level. She notes that in Geneva, only 3% of donated garments are redistributed locally; the rest enter a global stream that ends up, in large part, in open-air landfills in West Africa. Katia then shares the argument at the heart of her essay The Trojan Horse of Fashion: that the oversupply of secondhand. itself a product of fast fashion overproduction, is creating a bubble that will burst within five to ten years, forcing a major restructuring of the industry. An exceptionally knowledgeable, warm, and surprisingly joyful conversation on one of the most urgent topics of our time. Happy listening!</p><br><p><br></p><h2>Connect with Katia Dayan Vladimirova:</h2><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/katia-dayan-vladimirova/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Find Katia on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://postgrowthfashion.substack.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Post Growth Fashion Substack</a></p><p><a href="https://www.postgrowthfashion.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Post Growth Fashion Agency</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sustainablefashionconsumption.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">International Research Network on Sustainable Fashion Consumption</a></p><p><a href="https://www.well-rounded.ch/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Well Rounded</a> — Katia's circular underwear brand</p><br><p><br></p><h2>Referenced in the episode:</h2><p><a href="https://truecostmovie.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The True Cost movie — Documentary (2014) directed by Andrew Morgan</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rana_Plaza_collapse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rana Plaza</a> — Background on the 2013 factory collapse in Dhaka, Bangladesh</p><p><a href="https://hotorcool.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot Cool Institute</a> — Berlin-based think tank; co-authors of the 2022 global fashion consumption report</p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2024/jan/09/could-you-commit-to-buying-just-five-new-items-of-clothing-in-a-year" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Rule of Five</a> — Campaign inspired by the five-garment-per-year finding</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Agreement" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Paris Agreement </a>— The 2015 climate accord and its 1.5-degree target</p><p><a href="https://www.vestiairecollective.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vestiaire Collective</a> — Secondhand platform referenced by Anne</p><p><a href="https://hut.lu/en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">HUT / Caritas Luxembourg</a> — One-stop sustainable fashion hub in Luxembourg</p><p><a href="https://katefletcher.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kate Fletcher </a>— Pioneer in sustainable fashion, featured in Katia's webinar series</p><p><a href="https://researchers.arts.ac.uk/1064-dilys-williams" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dilys Williams </a>— Sustainable fashion academic, featured in Katia's webinar series</p><p><a href="https://www.jasonhickel.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jason Hickel</a> — Degrowth scholar referenced in the conversation</p><p><a href="https://bemorewithless.com/project-333/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Project 333</a> — Capsule wardrobe challenge referenced in the conversation</p><p><a href="https://gabrielahearst.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoqIsGpKxgL2ILDxHdHAuvQiOsDSB3rEVVpCe8byVa4_JrWyz1wd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gabriela Hearst</a> — Designer referenced by Anne for her approach to materials</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Kuwata" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Satoshi Kuwata </a>— Milan-based designer mentioned by Katia as an example of genuine creative resilience</p><p><a href="https://www.drtimlomas.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tim Lomas</a> — Positive psychology professor, featured in an earlier <a href="https://podlink.com/1516245733/episode/YTAxZWU4MGItOWVlNy00ZGFjLWE5ZjQtMjhiMzMxY2QxMmE3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Out of the Clouds episode</a>, </p><p><strong>Your Story Your Map:</strong> — a contemplative guide to help you trace the arc of your life with intention. <a href="https://letrente.kit.com/products/your-story-your-map" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>Get it here</u></a></p><br><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne V. Mühlethaler welcomes Zsofia Jamieson, co-founder of The Fertility Class, for an illuminating conversation about reproductive health, entrepreneurship and the power of becoming your own health advocate. Zsofia is a certified Aviva Method teacher, entrepreneur and former fashion executive who served as Global Head of Business Operations for luxury e-commerce group Net-a-Porter. Diagnosed with severe PCOS as a teenager and told she might never conceive, she was surprised to heal naturally through movement and nutrition, and today dedicates her work to helping women worldwide reconnect with their bodies and reproductive health.</p><br><p>Zsofia tells Anne about her upbringing in a small town in Hungary, where she grew up during the transition from socialism to capitalism. At just 15, she moved to the United States as an exchange student, an adventure that would shape her into the resilient, driven woman she is today. She shares how she went on to study business and logistics, and how she found her calling at the intersection of operations and luxury fashion.</p><br><p>Zsofia then goes on to explain the health struggles that had been simmering beneath her high-powered career. Diagnosed with PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome) as a teenager, she spent a decade on birth control pills that masked her symptoms. When she came off the medication to start a family, all her symptoms returned with a vengeance. This crisis became a catalyst for transformation. Through her own research, Zsofia discovered the Aviva Method, a Hungarian practice of therapeutic fertility exercises that she would later introduce to the UK and US.</p><br><p>The Fertility Class is a science-backed exercise method for fertility and hormonal health: a guided movement programme designed to support reproductive health naturally. Through gentle, targeted exercises that enhance pelvic circulation and hormonal balance, it helps the body create the ideal conditions for conception. Practiced for decades and trusted by doctors, the method empowers women to take an active role in their fertility from home, on their own time. It addresses menstrual health, supports those trying to conceive, and helps with conditions including PCOS, endometriosis and fibroids.</p><br><p>Anne and Zsofia explore the science behind these exercises, which Zsofia describes as a way to counteract the effects of our sedentary lifestyles on reproductive health. The pair discuss how sitting for extended periods essentially cuts off blood flow to our reproductive organs, depriving them of oxygen, hormones and nutrients. The fertility exercises work by rhythmically contracting and releasing the muscles surrounding these organs, pumping blood flow and tapping into reflexology points connected to hormone-producing glands.</p><br><p>Zsofia speaks passionately about the gap in women's healthcare, the vast space between doing nothing and pursuing invasive medical treatments. With one in six couples struggling with infertility, 10% of women affected by PCOS and another 10% by endometriosis, she sees The Fertility Class as filling a crucial need for accessible, evidence-based tools that empower people to rebalance their hormones, restore pelvic circulation and reconnect with their bodies naturally.</p><br><p>An empowering conversation about health advocacy, the wisdom of listening to our bodies and creating tools that truly serve reproductive wellbeing.</p><p>Happy listening!</p><p><br></p><h1>Selected links from episode</h1><ul><li><a href="https://myclass.thefertilityclass.com/a/2148088258/rYV8FQf4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fertility Class website</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/thefertilityclass/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fertility Class on Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://thefertilityclass.com/for-men" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fertility Class Men's Programme</a></li><li><a href="https://www.net-a-porter.com/de-de/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Net-a-Porter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.mrporter.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr Porter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.theoutnet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Outnet</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalie_Massenet" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Natalie Massenet</a></li><li><a href="https://avivamethod.info/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Aviva Method</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycystic_ovary_syndrome" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PCOS (Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome)</a> - NHS information</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endometriosis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Endometriosis</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_hypothalamic_amenorrhea" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hypothalamic Amenorrhea</a></li><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=b69d6ddf5e1e4d28" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The playlist from guests of Out of The Clouds answering 'What song best represents you?'</a></li><li>The Song that best represents Zsofia (especially on HIGH volume:) <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/60ZRKTMc94bcjiN4FI0XDm?si=DjZr4XKpRa-xCJqvkEJEeQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Shapeshifters: Lola's Theme</a></li><li>Zsofia’s favorite book:<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23391456-iza-s-ballad" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong> </strong>Magda Szabo: Iza's Ballad</a> (Original Hungarian title: Pilátus)</li></ul><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne V. Mühlethaler welcomes Zsofia Jamieson, co-founder of The Fertility Class, for an illuminating conversation about reproductive health, entrepreneurship and the power of becoming your own health advocate. Zsofia is a certified Aviva Method teacher, entrepreneur and former fashion executive who served as Global Head of Business Operations for luxury e-commerce group Net-a-Porter. Diagnosed with severe PCOS as a teenager and told she might never conceive, she was surprised to heal naturally through movement and nutrition, and today dedicates her work to helping women worldwide reconnect with their bodies and reproductive health.</p><br><p>Zsofia tells Anne about her upbringing in a small town in Hungary, where she grew up during the transition from socialism to capitalism. At just 15, she moved to the United States as an exchange student, an adventure that would shape her into the resilient, driven woman she is today. She shares how she went on to study business and logistics, and how she found her calling at the intersection of operations and luxury fashion.</p><br><p>Zsofia then goes on to explain the health struggles that had been simmering beneath her high-powered career. Diagnosed with PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome) as a teenager, she spent a decade on birth control pills that masked her symptoms. When she came off the medication to start a family, all her symptoms returned with a vengeance. This crisis became a catalyst for transformation. Through her own research, Zsofia discovered the Aviva Method, a Hungarian practice of therapeutic fertility exercises that she would later introduce to the UK and US.</p><br><p>The Fertility Class is a science-backed exercise method for fertility and hormonal health: a guided movement programme designed to support reproductive health naturally. Through gentle, targeted exercises that enhance pelvic circulation and hormonal balance, it helps the body create the ideal conditions for conception. Practiced for decades and trusted by doctors, the method empowers women to take an active role in their fertility from home, on their own time. It addresses menstrual health, supports those trying to conceive, and helps with conditions including PCOS, endometriosis and fibroids.</p><br><p>Anne and Zsofia explore the science behind these exercises, which Zsofia describes as a way to counteract the effects of our sedentary lifestyles on reproductive health. The pair discuss how sitting for extended periods essentially cuts off blood flow to our reproductive organs, depriving them of oxygen, hormones and nutrients. The fertility exercises work by rhythmically contracting and releasing the muscles surrounding these organs, pumping blood flow and tapping into reflexology points connected to hormone-producing glands.</p><br><p>Zsofia speaks passionately about the gap in women's healthcare, the vast space between doing nothing and pursuing invasive medical treatments. With one in six couples struggling with infertility, 10% of women affected by PCOS and another 10% by endometriosis, she sees The Fertility Class as filling a crucial need for accessible, evidence-based tools that empower people to rebalance their hormones, restore pelvic circulation and reconnect with their bodies naturally.</p><br><p>An empowering conversation about health advocacy, the wisdom of listening to our bodies and creating tools that truly serve reproductive wellbeing.</p><p>Happy listening!</p><p><br></p><h1>Selected links from episode</h1><ul><li><a href="https://myclass.thefertilityclass.com/a/2148088258/rYV8FQf4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fertility Class website</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/thefertilityclass/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fertility Class on Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://thefertilityclass.com/for-men" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fertility Class Men's Programme</a></li><li><a href="https://www.net-a-porter.com/de-de/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Net-a-Porter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.mrporter.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mr Porter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.theoutnet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Outnet</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalie_Massenet" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Natalie Massenet</a></li><li><a href="https://avivamethod.info/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Aviva Method</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycystic_ovary_syndrome" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PCOS (Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome)</a> - NHS information</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endometriosis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Endometriosis</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_hypothalamic_amenorrhea" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hypothalamic Amenorrhea</a></li><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=b69d6ddf5e1e4d28" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The playlist from guests of Out of The Clouds answering 'What song best represents you?'</a></li><li>The Song that best represents Zsofia (especially on HIGH volume:) <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/60ZRKTMc94bcjiN4FI0XDm?si=DjZr4XKpRa-xCJqvkEJEeQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Shapeshifters: Lola's Theme</a></li><li>Zsofia’s favorite book:<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23391456-iza-s-ballad" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong> </strong>Magda Szabo: Iza's Ballad</a> (Original Hungarian title: Pilátus)</li></ul><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Mühlethaler welcomes Tijana Tamburic, a storyteller, creative director and co-founder of Female Narratives. After a decade as a model combined with a UCL history degree and experience in publishing and editorial roles, she co-founded Female Narratives to disrupt the outdated advertising industry. Named Forbes 30 Under 30 for Media &amp; Marketing (and later serving as a judge), Tijana has worked on creative campaigns for brands like Bumble, BBC Studios and Allbirds, helping them tell real human stories. She's also the host of The Slow Down podcast and a board advisor for social enterprise OK MENTOR.</p><br><p>Anne discovered Tijana through The Slow Down, which offers what Tijana calls the career advice she never got in her twenties, aka conversations with people who've redefined success beyond hustle culture. Tijana shares her journey from arriving in London as an 18-month-old Serbian immigrant to being raised for autonomy by hardworking parents. She candidly discusses her teenage antics, keeping her modeling career at arm's length, staying in education, and initially hiding her avant-garde editorial modeling work from friends.</p><br><p>She tells Anne about her Burning Man transformation, meeting her future business partner on a flight to Ibiza, and her first ayahuasca ceremony, noting how these experiences introduced her to patient, graceful women who helped her step into her feminine energy after years of operating from a masculine, confrontational stance.</p><br><p>This shift led to founding Female Narratives, which initially got swept up in girl boss culture's demands to scale and sell. After two years on this path, Tijana and her co-founder had a crucial conversation about what kind of life they actually wanted. They worked backwards to design a boutique agency requiring a handful of projects yearly to meet their goals, allowing them to be selective about clients and maintain work-life balance.</p><br><p>Tijana reflects on her relationship with her archetypal masculine mother, a Serbian pharmacist who became a professor at London College of Fashion. The conversation also explores Tijana's past addiction to stress, her journey through burnout, and her ongoing practice of stepping into feminine energy through active listening and moving from scarcity to abundance mindset.&nbsp;</p><br><p>A candid conversation about building a business that serves your life, balancing masculine and feminine energies, and why vulnerable conversations are gifts that help us feel seen and understood.</p><br><p><strong>Selected links from episode:</strong></p><ul><li>The <a href="https://www.femalenarratives.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Female Narratives</a> website&nbsp;</li><li>The <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/4hi59jATHZUCXljcaYOgRN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slow Down podcast</a></li><li>Tijana's Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/tamburic/?hl=de" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@tamburic</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGo_dl0qgqA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tijana's TEDx Bucharest talk</a> titled ‘When my masculine met my feminine’</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/GloFX-Heart-Effect-Diffraction-Glasses/dp/B07BWF5S2M?th=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heart Diffraction Glasses</a> (as featured at Burning Man)</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Whisperers-Private-Life-Stalins-Russia/dp/0312428030" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Whisperers</a> by Orlando Figes</li><li><a href="https://www.julia-astok.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Julia Astok</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/Bu1iYbFhubC/?hl=de" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Esther Perel on autonomy vs loyalty</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Mühlethaler welcomes Tijana Tamburic, a storyteller, creative director and co-founder of Female Narratives. After a decade as a model combined with a UCL history degree and experience in publishing and editorial roles, she co-founded Female Narratives to disrupt the outdated advertising industry. Named Forbes 30 Under 30 for Media &amp; Marketing (and later serving as a judge), Tijana has worked on creative campaigns for brands like Bumble, BBC Studios and Allbirds, helping them tell real human stories. She's also the host of The Slow Down podcast and a board advisor for social enterprise OK MENTOR.</p><br><p>Anne discovered Tijana through The Slow Down, which offers what Tijana calls the career advice she never got in her twenties, aka conversations with people who've redefined success beyond hustle culture. Tijana shares her journey from arriving in London as an 18-month-old Serbian immigrant to being raised for autonomy by hardworking parents. She candidly discusses her teenage antics, keeping her modeling career at arm's length, staying in education, and initially hiding her avant-garde editorial modeling work from friends.</p><br><p>She tells Anne about her Burning Man transformation, meeting her future business partner on a flight to Ibiza, and her first ayahuasca ceremony, noting how these experiences introduced her to patient, graceful women who helped her step into her feminine energy after years of operating from a masculine, confrontational stance.</p><br><p>This shift led to founding Female Narratives, which initially got swept up in girl boss culture's demands to scale and sell. After two years on this path, Tijana and her co-founder had a crucial conversation about what kind of life they actually wanted. They worked backwards to design a boutique agency requiring a handful of projects yearly to meet their goals, allowing them to be selective about clients and maintain work-life balance.</p><br><p>Tijana reflects on her relationship with her archetypal masculine mother, a Serbian pharmacist who became a professor at London College of Fashion. The conversation also explores Tijana's past addiction to stress, her journey through burnout, and her ongoing practice of stepping into feminine energy through active listening and moving from scarcity to abundance mindset.&nbsp;</p><br><p>A candid conversation about building a business that serves your life, balancing masculine and feminine energies, and why vulnerable conversations are gifts that help us feel seen and understood.</p><br><p><strong>Selected links from episode:</strong></p><ul><li>The <a href="https://www.femalenarratives.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Female Narratives</a> website&nbsp;</li><li>The <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/4hi59jATHZUCXljcaYOgRN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slow Down podcast</a></li><li>Tijana's Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/tamburic/?hl=de" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@tamburic</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGo_dl0qgqA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tijana's TEDx Bucharest talk</a> titled ‘When my masculine met my feminine’</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/GloFX-Heart-Effect-Diffraction-Glasses/dp/B07BWF5S2M?th=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Heart Diffraction Glasses</a> (as featured at Burning Man)</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Whisperers-Private-Life-Stalins-Russia/dp/0312428030" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Whisperers</a> by Orlando Figes</li><li><a href="https://www.julia-astok.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Julia Astok</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/Bu1iYbFhubC/?hl=de" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Esther Perel on autonomy vs loyalty</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Mühlethaler welcomes artist and designer Serge Mouangue for a rare and intimate conversation about his remarkable creative journey. Born in Cameroon and now based between France and Japan, Serge has built an artistic practice that explores the deep cultural resonances between West Africa and Japan through his Wafrica project.</p><br><p>The conversation begins with Serge sharing his early life in Cameroon, where he explains the incredible linguistic diversity of his homeland through a striking example - counting from one to ten in his mother's and father's dialects, which sound completely different despite being from villages only 100 kilometers apart. He describes himself as a dreamy child with endless imagination who, growing up in government housing in France without many material possessions, would imagine all the things that were missing - vacuum cleaners, appliances, furniture - developing his ability to give shape to dreams through drawing.</p><br><p>Serge's path led him from interior design to industrial design, and eventually to Japan through his work in automotive design at Nissan. It was there, in 2006, that he discovered unexpected parallels between Japanese and West African cultures: complex hierarchy systems, animistic spirituality that sees souls in all things, and deep reverence for elders. These discoveries sparked what would become his signature artistic exploration.</p><br><p>The heart of the conversation centers on Serge's Wafrica project - kimonos made with African fabrics that blur the boundaries of identity and belonging. He shares a moving story about a Japanese customer who, wearing one of his kimonos, said she felt like she was "wearing world heritage" and no longer felt bound by the traditional submissive role associated with the garment. His other works include the Blood Brothers - African pygmy stools lacquered with Japanese urushi (described poetically as "African wood covered by the blood of a Japanese tree") - and installations like the Seven Sisters, exploring women's secrets and shared experiences.</p><br><p>Throughout the interview, Serge reveals his unique creative process, emphasizing how he "puts feelings first" and trusts his intuition "literally a hundred percent." He describes holding stories in his imagination for years - sometimes six or seven - before they're ready to be born into physical form. His deep relationship with sound emerges as central to his practice, from recording strangers' stories in Australia as a young man to his ongoing fascination with everything from Pygmy hunting songs to the sound of children playing.</p><br><p>The conversation also touches on profound themes of identity and belonging. As Serge notes, "cultural identity is not a given. It's a journey. It's something that you build through time." His work ultimately transcends the specific dialogue between West Africa and Japan to speak to anyone who has felt at home somewhere unexpected or questioned where they're truly from.</p><br><p>Anne and Serge discuss his advice for those with dreams: acknowledging the risks while emphasizing persistence, hard work, and the importance of luck - which he notes comes to those who "put everything around it so that it happens." When asked about his favorite word, Serge chooses "transcend," explaining how it encompasses both transformation and the spiritual dimension he seeks in all his work.</p><p>A deeply thoughtful and poetic conversation with an artist who rarely gives interviews, making this intimate discussion all the more precious.</p><br><p><strong>Selected Links from Episode:</strong></p><ul><li>Serge Mouague’s website: <a href="https://wafrica.art/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wafrica.art</a></li><li>Akaa Design Fair (October 24-26, Paris): <a href="https://akaafair.com/en/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">akaafair.com</a></li></ul><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Mühlethaler welcomes artist and designer Serge Mouangue for a rare and intimate conversation about his remarkable creative journey. Born in Cameroon and now based between France and Japan, Serge has built an artistic practice that explores the deep cultural resonances between West Africa and Japan through his Wafrica project.</p><br><p>The conversation begins with Serge sharing his early life in Cameroon, where he explains the incredible linguistic diversity of his homeland through a striking example - counting from one to ten in his mother's and father's dialects, which sound completely different despite being from villages only 100 kilometers apart. He describes himself as a dreamy child with endless imagination who, growing up in government housing in France without many material possessions, would imagine all the things that were missing - vacuum cleaners, appliances, furniture - developing his ability to give shape to dreams through drawing.</p><br><p>Serge's path led him from interior design to industrial design, and eventually to Japan through his work in automotive design at Nissan. It was there, in 2006, that he discovered unexpected parallels between Japanese and West African cultures: complex hierarchy systems, animistic spirituality that sees souls in all things, and deep reverence for elders. These discoveries sparked what would become his signature artistic exploration.</p><br><p>The heart of the conversation centers on Serge's Wafrica project - kimonos made with African fabrics that blur the boundaries of identity and belonging. He shares a moving story about a Japanese customer who, wearing one of his kimonos, said she felt like she was "wearing world heritage" and no longer felt bound by the traditional submissive role associated with the garment. His other works include the Blood Brothers - African pygmy stools lacquered with Japanese urushi (described poetically as "African wood covered by the blood of a Japanese tree") - and installations like the Seven Sisters, exploring women's secrets and shared experiences.</p><br><p>Throughout the interview, Serge reveals his unique creative process, emphasizing how he "puts feelings first" and trusts his intuition "literally a hundred percent." He describes holding stories in his imagination for years - sometimes six or seven - before they're ready to be born into physical form. His deep relationship with sound emerges as central to his practice, from recording strangers' stories in Australia as a young man to his ongoing fascination with everything from Pygmy hunting songs to the sound of children playing.</p><br><p>The conversation also touches on profound themes of identity and belonging. As Serge notes, "cultural identity is not a given. It's a journey. It's something that you build through time." His work ultimately transcends the specific dialogue between West Africa and Japan to speak to anyone who has felt at home somewhere unexpected or questioned where they're truly from.</p><br><p>Anne and Serge discuss his advice for those with dreams: acknowledging the risks while emphasizing persistence, hard work, and the importance of luck - which he notes comes to those who "put everything around it so that it happens." When asked about his favorite word, Serge chooses "transcend," explaining how it encompasses both transformation and the spiritual dimension he seeks in all his work.</p><p>A deeply thoughtful and poetic conversation with an artist who rarely gives interviews, making this intimate discussion all the more precious.</p><br><p><strong>Selected Links from Episode:</strong></p><ul><li>Serge Mouague’s website: <a href="https://wafrica.art/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wafrica.art</a></li><li>Akaa Design Fair (October 24-26, Paris): <a href="https://akaafair.com/en/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">akaafair.com</a></li></ul><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Ashley Bernardi on the cost of untold stories, giving herself the permission to feel and healing into her authentic power</title>
			<itunes:title>Ashley Bernardi on the cost of untold stories, giving herself the permission to feel and healing into her authentic power</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2025 05:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this deeply moving episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Mühlethaler welcomes Ashley Bernardi, an award-winning podcaster, author, media relations expert, and founder of Nardi Media. Ashley served as a network television news producer for nearly a decade, with credits including CBS News, energyNOW! on Bloomberg TV, and Washington Post Live. She has helped multiple authors launch their books and become New York Times Best Sellers, including Mel Robbins, Dr. Susan Peirce Thompson, and Dr. Gabrielle Lyon, with client placements in top-tier outlets like The Washington Post, The New York Times, TODAY, Good Morning America, CBS This Morning, NPR, Fortune, and hundreds more.</p><br><p>Ashley's personal story begins with profound childhood trauma - losing her father to a sudden heart attack at age 11 - and traces her journey through decades of burying her emotions while excelling professionally as a journalist and PR expert.</p><br><p>Ashley shares with Anne how she grew up in a creative military family, with her father serving as an Army colonel at the Pentagon and her mother running a successful dance studio in the DC area. The sudden loss of her beloved dad became a defining moment which brought her to suppress her grief and emotions for over two decades, channeling her energy into professional achievement while struggling with various coping mechanisms.</p><br><p>The conversation takes a profound turn as Ashley describes how unprocessed trauma eventually manifested in her body through a severe case of Lyme disease following the birth of her third daughter. After being medically gaslit by numerous doctors, Ashley experienced what she refers to as her "dark night of the soul" –- a moment of complete surrender that finally opened the door to processing her long-buried grief for her father.</p><br><p>Ashley details her healing journey, which involved developing daily practices of meditation, journaling, breathwork, therapy, coaching, and more. She explains how learning to "feel her feelings" in real-time became the foundation for both her physical healing and her relationship with her deceased father. The experience transformed her approach to life and work, impacting the work she does at Nardi Media, a PR agency specialising in health, wellness, spirituality, and mission-driven organisations.</p><br><p>Throughout their conversation, Anne and Ashley explore the importance of storytelling as both a healing tool and a way to connect with others. Ashley shares practical advice for those wanting to share their own stories, emphasising the difference between written and spoken communication and the necessity of practicing your story out loud. She also discusses her work with renowned clients like Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor and Dr. Emma Seppälä, and how her personal healing journey informed her professional mission.</p><br><p>The interview concludes with Ashley's insights on the transformative power of authentic connection, the importance of honoring both masculine and feminine energies, and her belief that everyone has healing wisdom within them. She emphasises that feelings are meant to be felt and processed, not buried, and that our authentic power comes from getting quiet and listening to our inner wisdom.</p><br><p>A raw, honest, and ultimately hopeful conversation about trauma, healing, and the courage it takes to live authentically.</p><h2><br></h2><p><strong>Connect with Ashley:</strong></p><ul><li>Ashley Bernardi's website: <a href="http://ashleybernardi.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ashleybernardi.com</a></li><li>Nardi Media: <a href="http://nardimedia.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">nardimedia.com</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nardi_media/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/nardi_media</a>&nbsp;</li></ul><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this deeply moving episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Mühlethaler welcomes Ashley Bernardi, an award-winning podcaster, author, media relations expert, and founder of Nardi Media. Ashley served as a network television news producer for nearly a decade, with credits including CBS News, energyNOW! on Bloomberg TV, and Washington Post Live. She has helped multiple authors launch their books and become New York Times Best Sellers, including Mel Robbins, Dr. Susan Peirce Thompson, and Dr. Gabrielle Lyon, with client placements in top-tier outlets like The Washington Post, The New York Times, TODAY, Good Morning America, CBS This Morning, NPR, Fortune, and hundreds more.</p><br><p>Ashley's personal story begins with profound childhood trauma - losing her father to a sudden heart attack at age 11 - and traces her journey through decades of burying her emotions while excelling professionally as a journalist and PR expert.</p><br><p>Ashley shares with Anne how she grew up in a creative military family, with her father serving as an Army colonel at the Pentagon and her mother running a successful dance studio in the DC area. The sudden loss of her beloved dad became a defining moment which brought her to suppress her grief and emotions for over two decades, channeling her energy into professional achievement while struggling with various coping mechanisms.</p><br><p>The conversation takes a profound turn as Ashley describes how unprocessed trauma eventually manifested in her body through a severe case of Lyme disease following the birth of her third daughter. After being medically gaslit by numerous doctors, Ashley experienced what she refers to as her "dark night of the soul" –- a moment of complete surrender that finally opened the door to processing her long-buried grief for her father.</p><br><p>Ashley details her healing journey, which involved developing daily practices of meditation, journaling, breathwork, therapy, coaching, and more. She explains how learning to "feel her feelings" in real-time became the foundation for both her physical healing and her relationship with her deceased father. The experience transformed her approach to life and work, impacting the work she does at Nardi Media, a PR agency specialising in health, wellness, spirituality, and mission-driven organisations.</p><br><p>Throughout their conversation, Anne and Ashley explore the importance of storytelling as both a healing tool and a way to connect with others. Ashley shares practical advice for those wanting to share their own stories, emphasising the difference between written and spoken communication and the necessity of practicing your story out loud. She also discusses her work with renowned clients like Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor and Dr. Emma Seppälä, and how her personal healing journey informed her professional mission.</p><br><p>The interview concludes with Ashley's insights on the transformative power of authentic connection, the importance of honoring both masculine and feminine energies, and her belief that everyone has healing wisdom within them. She emphasises that feelings are meant to be felt and processed, not buried, and that our authentic power comes from getting quiet and listening to our inner wisdom.</p><br><p>A raw, honest, and ultimately hopeful conversation about trauma, healing, and the courage it takes to live authentically.</p><h2><br></h2><p><strong>Connect with Ashley:</strong></p><ul><li>Ashley Bernardi's website: <a href="http://ashleybernardi.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ashleybernardi.com</a></li><li>Nardi Media: <a href="http://nardimedia.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">nardimedia.com</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nardi_media/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/nardi_media</a>&nbsp;</li></ul><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Karen Salmansohn on finding humor in life's heaviness, identity-based habits, and your to-die-for life]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2025 17:42:24 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Mühlethaler welcomes Karen Salmansohn, a bestselling author who has sold over 2 million books globally and describes herself as someone who puts "Psychology Today and Mad Magazine in a blender and presses frappé." Known for writing self-help books for people who wouldn't be caught dead reading self-help and pioneering the self-help book with attitude—she was the first personal development author to put a curse word in a book title with "How to Be Happy, Dammit"—Karen brings her signature blend of wisdom and wit to every conversation.</p><p>In her interview with Anne, Karen speaks about how her journey from senior VP creative director in advertising to bestselling author began with a bold leap of faith driven by pure passion. After achieving early success in advertising (including winning a Clio in her first six months on the job), she realised she wanted to write a novel. After threatening to quit, she finally did. Karen shares the story of how this bold decision led to a remarkable career spanning novels, self-help books, and everything in between. After her first novel, she started to pen books meant to inspire people to think in new ways, which she found more fulfilling than writing copy to convince the same people to switch toothpaste brands. </p><p>Next Anne and Karen explore the inspiration behind Karen's latest book, "Your To-Die-For Life," which emerged from both her experience of "near-life experiences" (being life-adjacent rather than fully present) and the profound impact of her father's death. Karen shares how giving her father's eulogy prompted her to write her own, which led to a thorough reassessment of her priorities and inspired her to move from working in "beast mode" to what she now calls "best mode."</p><p>The discussion delves deep into Karen's practical framework for living intentionally, including her seven core values that she reverse-engineered from the top regrets of the dying (Authentic, Brave, Curious, Discerning, Empathic Love, Fun, and Gratitude). Karen also explains her powerful concept of identity-based habits and "to-die lists"—daily practices that help align your actions with who you want to become, using the format "I am [core value] and so I do [action]."</p><p>One of the most compelling parts of their conversation centers on Karen's marble jar ritual—a tangible way to practice mortality awareness with each marble representing a remaining month of life, creating a monthly ritual of reflection and intentional living. Karen describes herself as a "middle of life doula:" someone helping people create meaningful change while there's still a runway ahead.</p><p>Throughout the interview, Karen demonstrates her gift for making profound concepts accessible through humor and practical tools. From her early days writing silly poems about chemistry homework to helping readers navigate life's heaviness with levity, she embodies her belief that humor is a great survival tool and that we can find awe and meaning in everyday moments.</p><p>The conversation touches on behavioral change, the importance of meaningful relationships, the power of curiosity as an antidote to fear, and how mortality awareness can awaken us to make each day more beautiful and purposeful. Karen's approach isn't about morbid fixation on death, but rather using awareness of life's finite nature to live more vividly and intentionally.</p><p>A thoughtful and inspiring conversation that offers both practical tools and philosophical insights for anyone seeking to live more fully and authentically.</p><p>Happy listening!</p><h3>Selected links from episode</h3><p>Out of the Clouds website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds">https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds</a></p><p>The Mettā View website: <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view">https://avm.consulting/metta-view</a></p><p>Anne on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>Anne on Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi">https://www.threads.net/@annvi</a></p><p>Anne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/</a></p><p>Connect with Karen:</p><ul><li>On Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/notsalmon/?hl=en">@notsalmon</a></li><li>On Facebook <a href="https://www.facebook.com/Notsalmon/">https://www.facebook.com/Notsalmon/</a></li><li>On LinkedIn <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/karensalmansohn/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/karensalmansohn/</a></li><li>On Youtube <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@karensalmansohn-OFFICIAL">https://www.youtube.com/@karensalmansohn-OFFICIAL</a></li></ul><p>Karen's Work:</p><ul><li><a href="https://yourtodieforlife.com/">Your To Die For Life</a> - Karen's latest book and website</li><li>Karen's Substack: <a href="https://notsalmon.substack.com">The Stand-Up Philosopher</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/salmansohn/15min?back=1&month=2025-07">Legacy Lab coaching with Karen</a></li><li><a href="https://notsalmon.substack.com/p/youre-never-too-old-to-rejigger-your">You’re never too old to re-jigger your life</a> - a video masterclass</li><li>Her TEDxTalk: <a href="https://youtu.be/UffyJbs6W0Y?feature=shared">Fun is your high-performance fuel</a></li></ul><p>Referenced in the Interview:</p><ul><li><a href="https://goodlifeproject.com/">Jonathan Fields interviews Karen Salmansohn</a> for the Good Life Project</li></ul><p>Karen's Notable Books Mentioned:</p><ul><li>"How to Be Happy, Dammit" - The book that started it all</li><li>"Even God Is Single, So Stop Giving Me a Hard Time"</li><li>"The Clitourist: A guide to one of the hottest spots on Earth"</li><li>"How to Make Your Man Behave in 21 Days or Less Using the Secrets of Professional Dog Trainers"</li></ul><p>Karen's Song Picks:</p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/2yx1kAK1Fe2zTOsaDKSNBk?si=4a71f79f8dd54b55">Alanis Morissette - "You Learn"</a></li><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/6Uy6K3KdmUdAfelUp0SeXn?si=4b6e66955a8743f2">Sarah Bareilles - "Brave"</a></li></ul><p>Philosophical References:</p><ul><li>Aristotle's philosophy on living a good life</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tibetan_Book_of_Living_and_Dying">The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying</a></li><li>Regina Spektor (artist Karen admires)</li></ul><p>Links: </p><ul><li><a href="https://youtu.be/9CVuzMFxPOI?feature=shared">Jonathan Fields interviews Karen Salmansohn for the Good Life Project</a></li></ul><p>Some of Karen’s most successful titles:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/How-Happy-Dammit-Spiritual-Happiness/dp/1587611198"> How to be Happy, dammit</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Even-God-Single-Stop-Giving/dp/076112134X"> Even God Is Single, so stop giving me a hard Time.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Clitourist-Guide-Hottest-Spots-Earth/dp/0789306778">The Clitourist :  A guide to one of the hottest spots on Earth for people with a clitoris, or people who love people with one</a></li></ul><p>The upcoming book:</p><p><a href="https://yourtodieforlife.com/">https://yourtodieforlife.com/</a></p><p>Karen’s picks for the song that best represents her </p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/2yx1kAK1Fe2zTOsaDKSNBk?si=4a71f79f8dd54b55">https://open.spotify.com/track/2yx1kAK1Fe2zTOsaDKSNBk?si=4a71f79f8dd54b55</a></p><p>Alanis Morissette You Learn (live) </p><p>Brave by Sarah Bareilles <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/6Uy6K3KdmUdAfelUp0SeXn?si=4b6e66955a8743f2">https://open.spotify.com/track/6Uy6K3KdmUdAfelUp0SeXn?si=4b6e66955a8743f2</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Mühlethaler welcomes Karen Salmansohn, a bestselling author who has sold over 2 million books globally and describes herself as someone who puts "Psychology Today and Mad Magazine in a blender and presses frappé." Known for writing self-help books for people who wouldn't be caught dead reading self-help and pioneering the self-help book with attitude—she was the first personal development author to put a curse word in a book title with "How to Be Happy, Dammit"—Karen brings her signature blend of wisdom and wit to every conversation.</p><p>In her interview with Anne, Karen speaks about how her journey from senior VP creative director in advertising to bestselling author began with a bold leap of faith driven by pure passion. After achieving early success in advertising (including winning a Clio in her first six months on the job), she realised she wanted to write a novel. After threatening to quit, she finally did. Karen shares the story of how this bold decision led to a remarkable career spanning novels, self-help books, and everything in between. After her first novel, she started to pen books meant to inspire people to think in new ways, which she found more fulfilling than writing copy to convince the same people to switch toothpaste brands. </p><p>Next Anne and Karen explore the inspiration behind Karen's latest book, "Your To-Die-For Life," which emerged from both her experience of "near-life experiences" (being life-adjacent rather than fully present) and the profound impact of her father's death. Karen shares how giving her father's eulogy prompted her to write her own, which led to a thorough reassessment of her priorities and inspired her to move from working in "beast mode" to what she now calls "best mode."</p><p>The discussion delves deep into Karen's practical framework for living intentionally, including her seven core values that she reverse-engineered from the top regrets of the dying (Authentic, Brave, Curious, Discerning, Empathic Love, Fun, and Gratitude). Karen also explains her powerful concept of identity-based habits and "to-die lists"—daily practices that help align your actions with who you want to become, using the format "I am [core value] and so I do [action]."</p><p>One of the most compelling parts of their conversation centers on Karen's marble jar ritual—a tangible way to practice mortality awareness with each marble representing a remaining month of life, creating a monthly ritual of reflection and intentional living. Karen describes herself as a "middle of life doula:" someone helping people create meaningful change while there's still a runway ahead.</p><p>Throughout the interview, Karen demonstrates her gift for making profound concepts accessible through humor and practical tools. From her early days writing silly poems about chemistry homework to helping readers navigate life's heaviness with levity, she embodies her belief that humor is a great survival tool and that we can find awe and meaning in everyday moments.</p><p>The conversation touches on behavioral change, the importance of meaningful relationships, the power of curiosity as an antidote to fear, and how mortality awareness can awaken us to make each day more beautiful and purposeful. Karen's approach isn't about morbid fixation on death, but rather using awareness of life's finite nature to live more vividly and intentionally.</p><p>A thoughtful and inspiring conversation that offers both practical tools and philosophical insights for anyone seeking to live more fully and authentically.</p><p>Happy listening!</p><h3>Selected links from episode</h3><p>Out of the Clouds website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds">https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds</a></p><p>The Mettā View website: <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view">https://avm.consulting/metta-view</a></p><p>Anne on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>Anne on Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi">https://www.threads.net/@annvi</a></p><p>Anne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/</a></p><p>Connect with Karen:</p><ul><li>On Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/notsalmon/?hl=en">@notsalmon</a></li><li>On Facebook <a href="https://www.facebook.com/Notsalmon/">https://www.facebook.com/Notsalmon/</a></li><li>On LinkedIn <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/karensalmansohn/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/karensalmansohn/</a></li><li>On Youtube <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@karensalmansohn-OFFICIAL">https://www.youtube.com/@karensalmansohn-OFFICIAL</a></li></ul><p>Karen's Work:</p><ul><li><a href="https://yourtodieforlife.com/">Your To Die For Life</a> - Karen's latest book and website</li><li>Karen's Substack: <a href="https://notsalmon.substack.com">The Stand-Up Philosopher</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/salmansohn/15min?back=1&month=2025-07">Legacy Lab coaching with Karen</a></li><li><a href="https://notsalmon.substack.com/p/youre-never-too-old-to-rejigger-your">You’re never too old to re-jigger your life</a> - a video masterclass</li><li>Her TEDxTalk: <a href="https://youtu.be/UffyJbs6W0Y?feature=shared">Fun is your high-performance fuel</a></li></ul><p>Referenced in the Interview:</p><ul><li><a href="https://goodlifeproject.com/">Jonathan Fields interviews Karen Salmansohn</a> for the Good Life Project</li></ul><p>Karen's Notable Books Mentioned:</p><ul><li>"How to Be Happy, Dammit" - The book that started it all</li><li>"Even God Is Single, So Stop Giving Me a Hard Time"</li><li>"The Clitourist: A guide to one of the hottest spots on Earth"</li><li>"How to Make Your Man Behave in 21 Days or Less Using the Secrets of Professional Dog Trainers"</li></ul><p>Karen's Song Picks:</p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/2yx1kAK1Fe2zTOsaDKSNBk?si=4a71f79f8dd54b55">Alanis Morissette - "You Learn"</a></li><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/6Uy6K3KdmUdAfelUp0SeXn?si=4b6e66955a8743f2">Sarah Bareilles - "Brave"</a></li></ul><p>Philosophical References:</p><ul><li>Aristotle's philosophy on living a good life</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tibetan_Book_of_Living_and_Dying">The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying</a></li><li>Regina Spektor (artist Karen admires)</li></ul><p>Links: </p><ul><li><a href="https://youtu.be/9CVuzMFxPOI?feature=shared">Jonathan Fields interviews Karen Salmansohn for the Good Life Project</a></li></ul><p>Some of Karen’s most successful titles:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/How-Happy-Dammit-Spiritual-Happiness/dp/1587611198"> How to be Happy, dammit</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Even-God-Single-Stop-Giving/dp/076112134X"> Even God Is Single, so stop giving me a hard Time.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Clitourist-Guide-Hottest-Spots-Earth/dp/0789306778">The Clitourist :  A guide to one of the hottest spots on Earth for people with a clitoris, or people who love people with one</a></li></ul><p>The upcoming book:</p><p><a href="https://yourtodieforlife.com/">https://yourtodieforlife.com/</a></p><p>Karen’s picks for the song that best represents her </p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/2yx1kAK1Fe2zTOsaDKSNBk?si=4a71f79f8dd54b55">https://open.spotify.com/track/2yx1kAK1Fe2zTOsaDKSNBk?si=4a71f79f8dd54b55</a></p><p>Alanis Morissette You Learn (live) </p><p>Brave by Sarah Bareilles <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/6Uy6K3KdmUdAfelUp0SeXn?si=4b6e66955a8743f2">https://open.spotify.com/track/6Uy6K3KdmUdAfelUp0SeXn?si=4b6e66955a8743f2</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Mühlethaler welcomes Joanna Bloor, a creative thinker and self-proclaimed "Potentialist" who has spent decades helping people and organisations unlock their untapped potential. With a background spanning from selling high-end swimwear to pioneering work in emerging technology during the dot-com era, Joanna brings a unique perspective on how we buy and sell human potential in today's world.</p><p>The conversation begins with Joanna's transformative journey from moving from England to Texas at 15 (going from "Hogwarts without boys or magic to Americana") to her pivotal moment entering the tech world in 1995 when "nobody had a rule book." She shares how these experiences taught her that future you is who people want to get to know and shaped her approach to helping others articulate their potential.</p><p>At the heart of the discussion is Joanna's revolutionary framework for understanding potential. She explains her concept that humans are essentially "emerging technology" - complex, upgradeable, and often misunderstood products that we buy and sell using outdated methods like resumes and job descriptions. Her famous principle that <i>"every decision made about you and your opportunities is made in a room that you're not in" </i>becomes the launching point for a deep dive into how to make yourself "easy to buy."</p><p>The conversation takes a delightful turn as Joanna deconstructs the Cinderella story, which is the heart of her book, Tales of Potential, revealing how she reframed the fairy tale princess to reveal a strategic marketing genius who understood the importance of leaving the right "marketing materials" (the glass slipper) behind. This leads to a rich discussion about authenticity, power dynamics  in professional settings, and why women need to shift from playing non-zero sum games to positive sum games - essentially, making more pie rather than fighting over slices.</p><p>Joanna shares practical advice for people who want to unlock insights to better talk about their own potential, including her "three words exercise" for discovering how others perceive you, and discusses the four power dynamics at play in any interaction: being liked, wanted, invited, or honored. </p><p>The episode concludes with Joanna's vision for bringing more magic into the corporate world, including her dream of standing on stage unironically in a sequin ball gown with a wand to help people see the potential in themselves and others. </p><p>A warm, funny and deeply insightful conversation, which is sure to leave you thinking differently about your own potential. Happy listening! </p><p> </p><h3>Selected Links from Episode</h3><p>Connect with Joanna:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.joannabloor.com/">Joanna's website</a></li><li>Follow Joanna <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joannabloor/">on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Joanna's Substack, <a href="https://joannabloor.substack.com/">The Potentialist</a>, a dispatch from the edge of what’s emerging.</li><li>Follow Joanna on social media: @JoannaBloor</li><li>Joanna’s book, <a href="https://www.joannabloor.com/books">Tales of Potential: The Cinderella Story You Didn’t Hear</a></li><li>Joanna’s TED talk <a href="https://youtu.be/RQCmjWwWqr4?si=aKGlY-GKfYB1T2VG">“How 3D printing helped me lose weight”</a></li></ul><p>Resources mentioned:</p><ul><li><a href="https://joannabloor.substack.com/p/the-potential-paradox-why-people">The quantum pen article</a> on Joanna's Substack</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/731656">"Clever Lazy" by Joan Badger </a>- the book that inspired 12-year-old Joanna</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._T._Barnum">PT Barnum </a></li><li>Angus Harvey quote on monsters and superstition: “The old world is dying and while the new world struggles to be born, now is the time of monsters  because we are unable to distinguish between what feels good and what is true.”</li><li>The other quote Joanna was looking for: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Arthur C. Clarke</li><li><a href="https://www.taramohr.com/the-playing-big-book/">"Playing Big" by Tara Mohr </a>- recommended book for women</li><li>Introduction makeover examples by Joanna with a host of wonderful people <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@joannabloor-careerfuturist9417">on YouTube</a> (a must watch!)</li></ul><p>Books Joanna recommends:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16130537-the-humans">"Humans"</a> by Matt Haig</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_First_Fifteen_Lives_of_Harry_August">"The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August"</a> by Claire North</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25746699-the-sudden-appearance-of-hope">"The Sudden Appearance of Hope"</a> by Claire North</li></ul><p>Other references:</p><ul><li><a href="https://conceptually.org/concepts/zero-vs-positive-sum/">Positive sum games vs zero sum games</a></li><li>Songs: <a href="https://youtu.be/mosIKMDsFYk?feature=shared">"Everything's Coming Up Roses"</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_Still_Here_(Follies_song)">"I'm Still Here"</a></li></ul><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Mühlethaler welcomes Joanna Bloor, a creative thinker and self-proclaimed "Potentialist" who has spent decades helping people and organisations unlock their untapped potential. With a background spanning from selling high-end swimwear to pioneering work in emerging technology during the dot-com era, Joanna brings a unique perspective on how we buy and sell human potential in today's world.</p><p>The conversation begins with Joanna's transformative journey from moving from England to Texas at 15 (going from "Hogwarts without boys or magic to Americana") to her pivotal moment entering the tech world in 1995 when "nobody had a rule book." She shares how these experiences taught her that future you is who people want to get to know and shaped her approach to helping others articulate their potential.</p><p>At the heart of the discussion is Joanna's revolutionary framework for understanding potential. She explains her concept that humans are essentially "emerging technology" - complex, upgradeable, and often misunderstood products that we buy and sell using outdated methods like resumes and job descriptions. Her famous principle that <i>"every decision made about you and your opportunities is made in a room that you're not in" </i>becomes the launching point for a deep dive into how to make yourself "easy to buy."</p><p>The conversation takes a delightful turn as Joanna deconstructs the Cinderella story, which is the heart of her book, Tales of Potential, revealing how she reframed the fairy tale princess to reveal a strategic marketing genius who understood the importance of leaving the right "marketing materials" (the glass slipper) behind. This leads to a rich discussion about authenticity, power dynamics  in professional settings, and why women need to shift from playing non-zero sum games to positive sum games - essentially, making more pie rather than fighting over slices.</p><p>Joanna shares practical advice for people who want to unlock insights to better talk about their own potential, including her "three words exercise" for discovering how others perceive you, and discusses the four power dynamics at play in any interaction: being liked, wanted, invited, or honored. </p><p>The episode concludes with Joanna's vision for bringing more magic into the corporate world, including her dream of standing on stage unironically in a sequin ball gown with a wand to help people see the potential in themselves and others. </p><p>A warm, funny and deeply insightful conversation, which is sure to leave you thinking differently about your own potential. Happy listening! </p><p> </p><h3>Selected Links from Episode</h3><p>Connect with Joanna:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.joannabloor.com/">Joanna's website</a></li><li>Follow Joanna <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joannabloor/">on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Joanna's Substack, <a href="https://joannabloor.substack.com/">The Potentialist</a>, a dispatch from the edge of what’s emerging.</li><li>Follow Joanna on social media: @JoannaBloor</li><li>Joanna’s book, <a href="https://www.joannabloor.com/books">Tales of Potential: The Cinderella Story You Didn’t Hear</a></li><li>Joanna’s TED talk <a href="https://youtu.be/RQCmjWwWqr4?si=aKGlY-GKfYB1T2VG">“How 3D printing helped me lose weight”</a></li></ul><p>Resources mentioned:</p><ul><li><a href="https://joannabloor.substack.com/p/the-potential-paradox-why-people">The quantum pen article</a> on Joanna's Substack</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/731656">"Clever Lazy" by Joan Badger </a>- the book that inspired 12-year-old Joanna</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._T._Barnum">PT Barnum </a></li><li>Angus Harvey quote on monsters and superstition: “The old world is dying and while the new world struggles to be born, now is the time of monsters  because we are unable to distinguish between what feels good and what is true.”</li><li>The other quote Joanna was looking for: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Arthur C. Clarke</li><li><a href="https://www.taramohr.com/the-playing-big-book/">"Playing Big" by Tara Mohr </a>- recommended book for women</li><li>Introduction makeover examples by Joanna with a host of wonderful people <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@joannabloor-careerfuturist9417">on YouTube</a> (a must watch!)</li></ul><p>Books Joanna recommends:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16130537-the-humans">"Humans"</a> by Matt Haig</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_First_Fifteen_Lives_of_Harry_August">"The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August"</a> by Claire North</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25746699-the-sudden-appearance-of-hope">"The Sudden Appearance of Hope"</a> by Claire North</li></ul><p>Other references:</p><ul><li><a href="https://conceptually.org/concepts/zero-vs-positive-sum/">Positive sum games vs zero sum games</a></li><li>Songs: <a href="https://youtu.be/mosIKMDsFYk?feature=shared">"Everything's Coming Up Roses"</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_Still_Here_(Follies_song)">"I'm Still Here"</a></li></ul><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Mühlethaler welcomes Alice Ruby Ross and Rebecca Monserat, the founders of Forivor, an award-winning sustainable children's brand known for its innovative, dual-sided bedding designs that transform from educational nature scenes by day to magical, enchanted worlds by night.</p><p>To begin, Rebecca and Alice share their fascinating personal journeys and how they crossed paths and led to their working together and their wonderful friendship. As they tell it in their own words, it all started with Rebecca growing up in a 400-year-old house without electricity and surrounded by nature in rural Wales and Alice being raised in West London in a creative Anglo-Indian family where their dining table was the center of artistic expression. The pair describe how they first met (through a mutual friend named Roxy), and what was initially a professional relationship quickly evolved into a deep friendship and business partnership that has sustained them through the ups and downs of entrepreneurship.</p><p>The conversation turns to the origin story of their brand. It began with Rebecca having a half-awake vision while trying to write a story for her goddaughter while on a train journey that was taking her from London to Hong Kong. The products she dreamt up — children’s bedding — originally featured a unique day and night concept, with one side depicting accurate natural landscapes with hidden wildlife, accompanied by educational fact cards, while the other side transforming those same creatures into mystical creatures with enchanting stories. The brand name is a tribute to Rebecca's father, Ivor (as in, “for Ivor”), who passed away in 2005. </p><p>The two founders then tell Anne about their in-person research process, which included visiting the Anglesey Sea Zoo to observe British marine wildlife for their "Legends of the Sea" collection, and how their immersive approach brings authenticity to their designs. And Alice, who creates all the illustrations, explains the delicate balance of making the creatures on their bedding designs both scientifically accurate and magically transformed, while Rebecca details the educational components that connect children to the natural world.</p><p>The pair also candidly address the challenges of working toward sustainable manufacturing, particularly their ongoing efforts to eliminate plastic from their supply chain and create products with minimal environmental impact. They articulate an acute awareness of the irony in their efforts to try and save the planet while simultaneously creating more products — a tension they navigate thoughtfully by focusing on longevity, education and exploring how their brand concept might live beyond physical goods and focusing on quality of life over forever growth. They summarise their philosophy as such: "The business is there for us to enjoy our life within it, not for us to serve the business." naming their approach prioritising creative fulfillment and. As Alice and Rebecca look to the future, they share their desire to expand Forivor's mission beyond products, potentially through workshops and experiential offerings like a Forivor Camp where children can connect directly with nature.</p><p>Throughout the conversation, Alice and Rebecca describe their work as "an ode to children's imagination," meant to celebrate the magical thinking that comes so naturally to young minds while also nurturing their connection to the natural world. The interview concludes with the three women reflecting on what grounds them (nature for Rebecca and people-watching for Alice) and what brings them happiness.</p><p>A warm, inspiring conversation with two talented women whose friendship is a bedrock for creativity, sustainability and the power of storytelling to connect children with the natural world.</p><p> </p><h3>Selected links from episode</h3><ul><li><a href="https://www.forivor.com/">Forivor website</a></li><li><a href="https://www.angleseyseazoo.co.uk/">Anglesey Zoo</a> - Where they researched marine wildlife for their "Legends of the Sea" collection</li><li><a href="https://ejfoundation.org/">Environmental Justice Foundation</a> - Where Rebecca previously worked</li><li><a href="https://www.katharinehamnett.com/">Katharine Hamnett</a> - Designer Rebecca worked with</li><li><a href="https://xtrillion.org/">X-Trillion</a> - Documentary about plastic pollution by Eleanor Church</li><li><a href="https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/great-pacific-garbage-patch/">The Great Pacific Garbage Patch </a>- Referenced when discussing plastic pollution</li><li><a href="https://www.houseofhackney.com/">House of Hackney</a> - Company that gives the environment a place on their board</li><li><a href="https://www.faithinnature.co.uk/">Faith & Nature</a> - First company to give nature a seat on their board</li><li><a href="https://fashionreimagined.co.uk/">Fashion Reimagined</a> - Documentary about sustainable fashion featuring Amy Powney</li><li><a href="https://motherofpearl.co.uk/">Mother of Pearl</a> - Amy Powney's sustainable fashion brand</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Family_and_Other_Animals">"My Family and Other Animals" by Gerald Durrell </a>- Rebecca's favorite book</li><li><a href="https://www.budplantandhutchisonbooks.com/pages/books/33943/graham-oakley/graham-oakleys-magical-changes">"Magical Changes" by Graham Oakley</a> - Alice's favorite book</li><li><a href="https://petercrossart.com/books/trumpets/trouble-for-trumpets">"Trouble for Trumpets"</a> - Book that inspired aspects of Forivor designs</li><li><a href="https://g.co/kgs/hiLPauhttps://youtu.be/Man4Xw8Xypo?si=iLc_IZlrrH-eV21l">The Beatles "Blackbird" </a>- Song that represents Rebecca</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/U8P0EVFKV74?si=DdO2qr5ieII3wjqN">Eric Clapton "Promises"</a> - Song that represents Alice</li><li>The playlist from guests of Out of The Clouds answering <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=8II3hQg-TYKHDevvrYYamg">‘What song best represents you?’</a></li></ul><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Mühlethaler welcomes Alice Ruby Ross and Rebecca Monserat, the founders of Forivor, an award-winning sustainable children's brand known for its innovative, dual-sided bedding designs that transform from educational nature scenes by day to magical, enchanted worlds by night.</p><p>To begin, Rebecca and Alice share their fascinating personal journeys and how they crossed paths and led to their working together and their wonderful friendship. As they tell it in their own words, it all started with Rebecca growing up in a 400-year-old house without electricity and surrounded by nature in rural Wales and Alice being raised in West London in a creative Anglo-Indian family where their dining table was the center of artistic expression. The pair describe how they first met (through a mutual friend named Roxy), and what was initially a professional relationship quickly evolved into a deep friendship and business partnership that has sustained them through the ups and downs of entrepreneurship.</p><p>The conversation turns to the origin story of their brand. It began with Rebecca having a half-awake vision while trying to write a story for her goddaughter while on a train journey that was taking her from London to Hong Kong. The products she dreamt up — children’s bedding — originally featured a unique day and night concept, with one side depicting accurate natural landscapes with hidden wildlife, accompanied by educational fact cards, while the other side transforming those same creatures into mystical creatures with enchanting stories. The brand name is a tribute to Rebecca's father, Ivor (as in, “for Ivor”), who passed away in 2005. </p><p>The two founders then tell Anne about their in-person research process, which included visiting the Anglesey Sea Zoo to observe British marine wildlife for their "Legends of the Sea" collection, and how their immersive approach brings authenticity to their designs. And Alice, who creates all the illustrations, explains the delicate balance of making the creatures on their bedding designs both scientifically accurate and magically transformed, while Rebecca details the educational components that connect children to the natural world.</p><p>The pair also candidly address the challenges of working toward sustainable manufacturing, particularly their ongoing efforts to eliminate plastic from their supply chain and create products with minimal environmental impact. They articulate an acute awareness of the irony in their efforts to try and save the planet while simultaneously creating more products — a tension they navigate thoughtfully by focusing on longevity, education and exploring how their brand concept might live beyond physical goods and focusing on quality of life over forever growth. They summarise their philosophy as such: "The business is there for us to enjoy our life within it, not for us to serve the business." naming their approach prioritising creative fulfillment and. As Alice and Rebecca look to the future, they share their desire to expand Forivor's mission beyond products, potentially through workshops and experiential offerings like a Forivor Camp where children can connect directly with nature.</p><p>Throughout the conversation, Alice and Rebecca describe their work as "an ode to children's imagination," meant to celebrate the magical thinking that comes so naturally to young minds while also nurturing their connection to the natural world. The interview concludes with the three women reflecting on what grounds them (nature for Rebecca and people-watching for Alice) and what brings them happiness.</p><p>A warm, inspiring conversation with two talented women whose friendship is a bedrock for creativity, sustainability and the power of storytelling to connect children with the natural world.</p><p> </p><h3>Selected links from episode</h3><ul><li><a href="https://www.forivor.com/">Forivor website</a></li><li><a href="https://www.angleseyseazoo.co.uk/">Anglesey Zoo</a> - Where they researched marine wildlife for their "Legends of the Sea" collection</li><li><a href="https://ejfoundation.org/">Environmental Justice Foundation</a> - Where Rebecca previously worked</li><li><a href="https://www.katharinehamnett.com/">Katharine Hamnett</a> - Designer Rebecca worked with</li><li><a href="https://xtrillion.org/">X-Trillion</a> - Documentary about plastic pollution by Eleanor Church</li><li><a href="https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/great-pacific-garbage-patch/">The Great Pacific Garbage Patch </a>- Referenced when discussing plastic pollution</li><li><a href="https://www.houseofhackney.com/">House of Hackney</a> - Company that gives the environment a place on their board</li><li><a href="https://www.faithinnature.co.uk/">Faith & Nature</a> - First company to give nature a seat on their board</li><li><a href="https://fashionreimagined.co.uk/">Fashion Reimagined</a> - Documentary about sustainable fashion featuring Amy Powney</li><li><a href="https://motherofpearl.co.uk/">Mother of Pearl</a> - Amy Powney's sustainable fashion brand</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Family_and_Other_Animals">"My Family and Other Animals" by Gerald Durrell </a>- Rebecca's favorite book</li><li><a href="https://www.budplantandhutchisonbooks.com/pages/books/33943/graham-oakley/graham-oakleys-magical-changes">"Magical Changes" by Graham Oakley</a> - Alice's favorite book</li><li><a href="https://petercrossart.com/books/trumpets/trouble-for-trumpets">"Trouble for Trumpets"</a> - Book that inspired aspects of Forivor designs</li><li><a href="https://g.co/kgs/hiLPauhttps://youtu.be/Man4Xw8Xypo?si=iLc_IZlrrH-eV21l">The Beatles "Blackbird" </a>- Song that represents Rebecca</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/U8P0EVFKV74?si=DdO2qr5ieII3wjqN">Eric Clapton "Promises"</a> - Song that represents Alice</li><li>The playlist from guests of Out of The Clouds answering <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=8II3hQg-TYKHDevvrYYamg">‘What song best represents you?’</a></li></ul><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>André Anderson on aspirational play, upward spirals and how the world belongs to the people who tell stories</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Mühlethaler interviews André Anderson, an author, educator, and the founder of Freedom and Balance art college. Anne first encountered Andre during his impactful TEDx talk at Hackney Empire in London and was immediately drawn to his innovative approach to storytelling.</p><p>André tells Anne about his journey from a creative child who loved making imagery, writing stories and dreaming of his own media empire to becoming a self-published author and community storyteller. He explains how his first book "Ultra" — written in just 12 days on his Blackberry — opened unexpected doors and taught him the principle that "the more you create, the freer you become."</p><p>Their conversation also explores André's groundbreaking project "Authors of the Estate," for which he transformed his Northwest London council estate into a publishing house. Andre explains how this initiative challenged negative narratives about his community by empowering residents to author their own stories. He likens this work to the tradition of oral historians in West Africa (called griot), highlighting how storytelling serves as both cultural preservation and a political act. André also mentions "Chalk Hill," the second book that followed "Authors of the Estate" in his publishing journey.</p><p>Anne and André discuss the etymology of words like "author" and "education," as André explains how understanding their roots has shaped his approach to creativity and teaching. André also explains how his art college, Freedom and Balance, creates environments for people to discover their unique creative language through play. He shares his realization that facilitation is about asking powerful questions rather than providing all the answers, describing his role memorably: "I am Gandalf, and all of my tools, or all of my magic, is tools of play."</p><p>Anne and André delve into the importance of aspirational play for adults in an increasingly AI-driven world, with André suggesting that play might be the most distinctly human activity that cannot be replaced by technology. They examine how imperfection, vulnerability and the willingness to make mistakes can become powerful educational tools and discuss André's project "Love Letters for My Peoples," which uses love as a framework for creativity and connection.</p><p>Throughout the conversation, André shares his philosophy of "heart work" — creative work that incorporates strands of one's authentic self — and reflects on the importance of process over product. André even makes a compelling comparison between his "Authors of the Estate" project and Nas's seminal album "Illmatic," referring to it as his defining work that fans always want to hear again. The episode concludes with André's thoughtful responses to Anne's closing lightning round questions, revealing his deep connection to creativity, his appreciation for his mother's early support of his creative pursuits and his belief that happiness comes from knowing the world has heard you.</p><p>A profound conversation about reclaiming narratives, finding freedom through creativity and the transformative power of play. Happy listening!</p><p>About André Anderson</p><p>Freedom & Balance is an Art College for the artist in everyone. They create programs that help organizations shape their future through play and help communities playfully grow into the type of leaders their world looks for. Andre and his team have worked with notable organizations including BBC, Google, Samsung, Estee Lauder, and The Guardian.</p><p>Selected links from episode</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.freedomandbalance.com/authorsoftheestate">Authors of the Estate</a></li><li><a href="https://www.freedomandbalance.com/shop/pre-order-authors-of-the-estate-chalkhill-edition-2019">Chalk Hill</a> - Andre's follow-up book</li><li><a href="https://www.freedomandbalance.com/">Freedom and Balance Art College</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=your-link-here">Andre's TEDx talk on Aspirational Play</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/lovelettersformypeoples/">https://www.freedomandbalance.com/loveletters</a></li><li><a href="https://gamestorming.com/">Gamestorming book</a></li><li><a href="https://www.abeautifulconstraint.com/">A Beautiful Constraint book</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nas.com/music/illmatic">Nas - Illmatic</a> - The album Andre compared to his "Authors of the Estate" project</li><li>The Arthur theme song <a href="https://youtu.be/YUB96vgwotg">“Believe in yourself”</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/freedom_balance/?hl=en">Follow Andre on Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://uk.linkedin.com/in/freedomandbalance">Connect with Andre on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Mühlethaler interviews André Anderson, an author, educator, and the founder of Freedom and Balance art college. Anne first encountered Andre during his impactful TEDx talk at Hackney Empire in London and was immediately drawn to his innovative approach to storytelling.</p><p>André tells Anne about his journey from a creative child who loved making imagery, writing stories and dreaming of his own media empire to becoming a self-published author and community storyteller. He explains how his first book "Ultra" — written in just 12 days on his Blackberry — opened unexpected doors and taught him the principle that "the more you create, the freer you become."</p><p>Their conversation also explores André's groundbreaking project "Authors of the Estate," for which he transformed his Northwest London council estate into a publishing house. Andre explains how this initiative challenged negative narratives about his community by empowering residents to author their own stories. He likens this work to the tradition of oral historians in West Africa (called griot), highlighting how storytelling serves as both cultural preservation and a political act. André also mentions "Chalk Hill," the second book that followed "Authors of the Estate" in his publishing journey.</p><p>Anne and André discuss the etymology of words like "author" and "education," as André explains how understanding their roots has shaped his approach to creativity and teaching. André also explains how his art college, Freedom and Balance, creates environments for people to discover their unique creative language through play. He shares his realization that facilitation is about asking powerful questions rather than providing all the answers, describing his role memorably: "I am Gandalf, and all of my tools, or all of my magic, is tools of play."</p><p>Anne and André delve into the importance of aspirational play for adults in an increasingly AI-driven world, with André suggesting that play might be the most distinctly human activity that cannot be replaced by technology. They examine how imperfection, vulnerability and the willingness to make mistakes can become powerful educational tools and discuss André's project "Love Letters for My Peoples," which uses love as a framework for creativity and connection.</p><p>Throughout the conversation, André shares his philosophy of "heart work" — creative work that incorporates strands of one's authentic self — and reflects on the importance of process over product. André even makes a compelling comparison between his "Authors of the Estate" project and Nas's seminal album "Illmatic," referring to it as his defining work that fans always want to hear again. The episode concludes with André's thoughtful responses to Anne's closing lightning round questions, revealing his deep connection to creativity, his appreciation for his mother's early support of his creative pursuits and his belief that happiness comes from knowing the world has heard you.</p><p>A profound conversation about reclaiming narratives, finding freedom through creativity and the transformative power of play. Happy listening!</p><p>About André Anderson</p><p>Freedom & Balance is an Art College for the artist in everyone. They create programs that help organizations shape their future through play and help communities playfully grow into the type of leaders their world looks for. Andre and his team have worked with notable organizations including BBC, Google, Samsung, Estee Lauder, and The Guardian.</p><p>Selected links from episode</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.freedomandbalance.com/authorsoftheestate">Authors of the Estate</a></li><li><a href="https://www.freedomandbalance.com/shop/pre-order-authors-of-the-estate-chalkhill-edition-2019">Chalk Hill</a> - Andre's follow-up book</li><li><a href="https://www.freedomandbalance.com/">Freedom and Balance Art College</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=your-link-here">Andre's TEDx talk on Aspirational Play</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/lovelettersformypeoples/">https://www.freedomandbalance.com/loveletters</a></li><li><a href="https://gamestorming.com/">Gamestorming book</a></li><li><a href="https://www.abeautifulconstraint.com/">A Beautiful Constraint book</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nas.com/music/illmatic">Nas - Illmatic</a> - The album Andre compared to his "Authors of the Estate" project</li><li>The Arthur theme song <a href="https://youtu.be/YUB96vgwotg">“Believe in yourself”</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/freedom_balance/?hl=en">Follow Andre on Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://uk.linkedin.com/in/freedomandbalance">Connect with Andre on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews Dina Fierro,<i> </i>creative thinker and seasoned omni-channel marketer<i> </i>with expertise spanning fashion, beauty and luxury. Dina is a specialist in content strategy, cross-platform storytelling and reshaping consumer engagement.</p><p>Dina's career has spanned fashion, beauty and luxury, including leadership positions both agency and brand-side, including a few years where she worked with Anne at Christian Louboutin. In her most recent role at Shiseido Americas, she led the organisation's digital innovation group, partnering with portfolio brands including NARS, Shiseido, Clé de Peau Beauté and Drunk Elephant to create highly engaging consumer experiences anchored in emerging technology.</p><p>Anne and Dina explore Dina's fascinating journey from her early aspirations in journalism to becoming a pioneering voice in the digital marketing landscape. Dina shares her path from launching one of the early fashion and beauty blogs in 2006, Eye for Style, to spearheading groundbreaking digital initiatives for prestigious brands. The pair discuss Dina's work creating virtual ambassadors for Nars, immersive retail experiences, and exciting gaming integrations that are pushing the boundaries of how brands in the beauty or luxury space connect with their customers.</p><p>The conversation delves into the evolution of Web3, AI, and immersive technologies (with Dina offering some explanation for the meaning of the terms), examining how these tools are transforming brand storytelling. They explore the broadcast-to-dialogue shift - how brands in Web3 are moving away from one-way communication toward more interactive relationships with their audiences. Dina explains her vision for a more integrated approach to experiential marketing and how technology can enhance rather than replace physical experiences.</p><p>Anne and Dina exchange thoughts on their favorite platforms in 2025, discussing platforms that really reinforce the dialogue between brands and consumers. They share insights on Substack, Reddit, and the untapped potential of audio, while expressing their mixed feelings about Meta and TikTok. The conversation also touches on the hazards of the subscription economy and makes a case for why more brands should embrace audio for deeper connection with their audiences.</p><p>Throughout the discussion, Dina reveals her thoughtful approach to both personal and professional growth, touching on resilience, the importance of human connection in an increasingly digital world, and finding balance between control and vulnerability.</p><p>A thought-provoking conversation that bridges the past, present, and future of digital marketing while offering valuable insights for anyone interested in the intersection of technology, creativity, and brand building.</p><p>Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>Selected Links from Episode</p><p>You can connect with Dina: </p><p><a href="https://dinafierro.substack.com/">Dina's Substack: Yet Another Substack</a></p><p><a href="https://instagram.com/dinafierro">Dina's Instagram: @dinafierro</a></p><p> </p><p>Other links: </p><p><a href="https://daydream.co/">Daydream</a> - AI-powered luxury shopping experience</p><p><a href="https://xiidra.io/">Xiidra</a> - Multisensory VR experiences</p><p><a href="https://web.zepeto.me/en">ZEPETO</a> - Immersive metaverse-style app popular in Asia</p><p><a href="https://www.unrealengine.com/">Unreal Engine</a> - Platform within Epic Games for photorealistic environments</p><p><a href="https://dimensionstudio.co/">Dimension Studio</a> - London-based studio specializing in Unreal Engine development</p><p><a href="https://pattywilsonstyle.com/">Patty Wilson</a> - Renowned stylist who styles NARS campaigns</p><p><a href="https://www.voguebusiness.com/">Vogue Business</a> - Business publication featuring Dina's work with virtual ambassadors</p><p><a href="https://www.roblox.com/">Roblox</a> - User-generated platform where NARS launched Color Quest</p><p><a href="https://kikiworld.co/">Kiki World</a> - Co-creation platform disrupting the beauty industry</p><p><a href="https://dsanddurga.com/">DS & Durga</a> - Niche perfume house with Spotify playlists including commissioned music</p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/user/barillaus">Barilla Pasta Timer Playlists</a> - Curated music for pasta cooking times</p><p><a href="https://substack.com/">Substack</a> - Newsletter platform Dina uses for her publication</p><p><a href="https://leandramcohen.substack.com/">Leandra Medine (Man Repeller)</a> - Fashion writer and former blogger Dina follows</p><p><a href="https://amyodell.substack.com/">Amy O'Dell</a> - Former Editor-in-Chief of The Cut with original reporting on Substack</p><p><a href="https://www.marieclaire.com/">Marie Claire</a> - Publication with sophisticated content strategies beyond print</p><p><a href="https://t.me/bloomberg">Bloomberg on Telegram</a> - Example of legacy media embracing alternative channels</p><p><a href="https://www.meta.com/glasses/">Meta Ray-Ban Smart Glasses</a> - Wearable technology Dina finds compelling</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvlTJrNJ5lA">Tom Petty - "I Won't Back Down"</a> - Song that represents Dina</p><p><a href="https://michaelpollan.com/books/the-omnivores-dilemma/">Michael Pollan - "The Omnivore's Dilemma"</a> - Book that changed Dina's relationship with food</p><p><a href="https://www.ericripert.com/">Eric Ripert</a> - Chef whose culinary memoir Dina enjoys</p><p><a href="https://www.gabriellehamilton.com/">Gabrielle Hamilton</a> - Chef and author Dina mentioned for her culinary writing</p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews Dina Fierro,<i> </i>creative thinker and seasoned omni-channel marketer<i> </i>with expertise spanning fashion, beauty and luxury. Dina is a specialist in content strategy, cross-platform storytelling and reshaping consumer engagement.</p><p>Dina's career has spanned fashion, beauty and luxury, including leadership positions both agency and brand-side, including a few years where she worked with Anne at Christian Louboutin. In her most recent role at Shiseido Americas, she led the organisation's digital innovation group, partnering with portfolio brands including NARS, Shiseido, Clé de Peau Beauté and Drunk Elephant to create highly engaging consumer experiences anchored in emerging technology.</p><p>Anne and Dina explore Dina's fascinating journey from her early aspirations in journalism to becoming a pioneering voice in the digital marketing landscape. Dina shares her path from launching one of the early fashion and beauty blogs in 2006, Eye for Style, to spearheading groundbreaking digital initiatives for prestigious brands. The pair discuss Dina's work creating virtual ambassadors for Nars, immersive retail experiences, and exciting gaming integrations that are pushing the boundaries of how brands in the beauty or luxury space connect with their customers.</p><p>The conversation delves into the evolution of Web3, AI, and immersive technologies (with Dina offering some explanation for the meaning of the terms), examining how these tools are transforming brand storytelling. They explore the broadcast-to-dialogue shift - how brands in Web3 are moving away from one-way communication toward more interactive relationships with their audiences. Dina explains her vision for a more integrated approach to experiential marketing and how technology can enhance rather than replace physical experiences.</p><p>Anne and Dina exchange thoughts on their favorite platforms in 2025, discussing platforms that really reinforce the dialogue between brands and consumers. They share insights on Substack, Reddit, and the untapped potential of audio, while expressing their mixed feelings about Meta and TikTok. The conversation also touches on the hazards of the subscription economy and makes a case for why more brands should embrace audio for deeper connection with their audiences.</p><p>Throughout the discussion, Dina reveals her thoughtful approach to both personal and professional growth, touching on resilience, the importance of human connection in an increasingly digital world, and finding balance between control and vulnerability.</p><p>A thought-provoking conversation that bridges the past, present, and future of digital marketing while offering valuable insights for anyone interested in the intersection of technology, creativity, and brand building.</p><p>Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>Selected Links from Episode</p><p>You can connect with Dina: </p><p><a href="https://dinafierro.substack.com/">Dina's Substack: Yet Another Substack</a></p><p><a href="https://instagram.com/dinafierro">Dina's Instagram: @dinafierro</a></p><p> </p><p>Other links: </p><p><a href="https://daydream.co/">Daydream</a> - AI-powered luxury shopping experience</p><p><a href="https://xiidra.io/">Xiidra</a> - Multisensory VR experiences</p><p><a href="https://web.zepeto.me/en">ZEPETO</a> - Immersive metaverse-style app popular in Asia</p><p><a href="https://www.unrealengine.com/">Unreal Engine</a> - Platform within Epic Games for photorealistic environments</p><p><a href="https://dimensionstudio.co/">Dimension Studio</a> - London-based studio specializing in Unreal Engine development</p><p><a href="https://pattywilsonstyle.com/">Patty Wilson</a> - Renowned stylist who styles NARS campaigns</p><p><a href="https://www.voguebusiness.com/">Vogue Business</a> - Business publication featuring Dina's work with virtual ambassadors</p><p><a href="https://www.roblox.com/">Roblox</a> - User-generated platform where NARS launched Color Quest</p><p><a href="https://kikiworld.co/">Kiki World</a> - Co-creation platform disrupting the beauty industry</p><p><a href="https://dsanddurga.com/">DS & Durga</a> - Niche perfume house with Spotify playlists including commissioned music</p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/user/barillaus">Barilla Pasta Timer Playlists</a> - Curated music for pasta cooking times</p><p><a href="https://substack.com/">Substack</a> - Newsletter platform Dina uses for her publication</p><p><a href="https://leandramcohen.substack.com/">Leandra Medine (Man Repeller)</a> - Fashion writer and former blogger Dina follows</p><p><a href="https://amyodell.substack.com/">Amy O'Dell</a> - Former Editor-in-Chief of The Cut with original reporting on Substack</p><p><a href="https://www.marieclaire.com/">Marie Claire</a> - Publication with sophisticated content strategies beyond print</p><p><a href="https://t.me/bloomberg">Bloomberg on Telegram</a> - Example of legacy media embracing alternative channels</p><p><a href="https://www.meta.com/glasses/">Meta Ray-Ban Smart Glasses</a> - Wearable technology Dina finds compelling</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvlTJrNJ5lA">Tom Petty - "I Won't Back Down"</a> - Song that represents Dina</p><p><a href="https://michaelpollan.com/books/the-omnivores-dilemma/">Michael Pollan - "The Omnivore's Dilemma"</a> - Book that changed Dina's relationship with food</p><p><a href="https://www.ericripert.com/">Eric Ripert</a> - Chef whose culinary memoir Dina enjoys</p><p><a href="https://www.gabriellehamilton.com/">Gabrielle Hamilton</a> - Chef and author Dina mentioned for her culinary writing</p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Mühlethaler interviews Francesca Hogi, a TED speaker, host of the Dear Franny Podcast, and internationally recognized expert on dating and relationships. She's been featured in media outlets such as The Today Show, Marie Claire, The New York Times, Harper's Bazaar and The Huffington Post, and is the founder of The True Love Society, a community for people seeking deeper self and romantic love.</p><p>Anne and Francesca’s conversation begins with Francesca sharing her life story, revealing how she was a deeply romantic child who devoured her older sister's romance novels, foreshadowing her future career path. She was working as a corporate lawyer when she began her journey toward love coaching by blogging about dating. She then turned to matchmaking for several years before finding her true calling as a love coach.</p><p>Francesca tells Anne about her holistic approach to helping people find love. She also discusses some elements of her book, ​​<i>How to Find True Love: Unlock Your Romantic Flow and Create Lasting Relationships</i>, in which she breaks down four key components for readers to establish the foundations for a true love relationship: mindset, heartset, soulset, and skillset. Francesca challenges the conventional hierarchies of love, explaining how we tend to put romantic love up on this pedestal, thinking of it as the pinnacle and then assuming failure if we don’t find it in our lives. Instead, she advocates for adapting our intentions to have love through all parts of our lives.</p><p>Then Anne and Francesca delve into the realities of modern dating, particularly the evolution and impact of dating apps. Francesca pointedly reminds listeners that "swiping on a dating app is not dating — going on dates is dating," and emphasises the importance of "developing the skills — because it is all skill — to be able to meet people more organically as they live their lives."</p><p>Francesca explains what she asks her clients (and readers of her book) to develop more self-awareness, like: "What do I actually believe about myself when it comes to love?" and "In the love story of your life, what is the role that you play?" She highlights how many people hold beliefs about themselves and their romantic possibilities that are not truly in alignment with what they want, and these questions guide us back to our focus.</p><p>Their conversation turns to exploring the deeper spiritual dimensions of finding love through what Francesca calls one’s soulset: considering faith and connection to a higher power. She adds that serendipity, for example, is something that you can court intentionally, and how practicing gratitude makes you more aligned with love. She offers that having that soul-level connection and understanding our romantic energy is essential because while often we understand mind,emotion, and action, we tend to misunderstand energy. </p><p>To conclude, Anne asks her favourite questions, which has Francesca share her grounding practices, in particular her daily morning and evening journaling sessions, and her love of walking in any weather. </p><p>A warm, insightful, and empowering conversation that challenges conventional wisdom about modern love and offers a refreshing perspective on how to center love in all aspects of life. </p><p>Happy listening!<br /><br /><strong>Selected links from episode</strong></p><p>Out of the Clouds website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds">https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds</a></p><p>The Mettā View website: <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view">https://avm.consulting/metta-view</a></p><p>Anne on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>Anne on Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi">https://www.threads.net/@annvi</a></p><p>Anne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/</a></p><p>Find more about Francesca at <a href="http://francescahogi.com">FrancescaHogi.com</a></p><p><a href="https://www.francescahogi.com/book">Her book, "How to Find True Love: Unlock Your Romantic Flow and Create Lasting Relationships"</a></p><p><a href="https://howtodate.market.authoritive.com/">How to date with intention</a>, Francesca’s online course</p><p>Francesca’s <a href="https://www.patreon.com/dearfranny">True Love Society on Patreon</a>  </p><p>Find Francesca on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dearfranny">https://www.instagram.com/dearfranny</a></p><p>On LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dearfranny">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dearfranny</a></p><p>On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DearFranny</p><p>Follow Francesca’s podcast <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dearfrannypodcast/">Dear Franny</a> on Instagram </p><p>Or subscribe to the podcast <a href="https://pod.link/1475127865">on Apple Podcasts</a></p><p> </p><p>Selected links from episode:</p><p><a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/love-inc/201101/the-princess-industrial-complex">The princess industrial complex </a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Inside-Self-Book-Kids/dp/1634897382">The Love Inside, a book by Jessica Faith Graham</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7wit8_8SqA">U2 I still haven’t found what I’m looking for </a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Untethered-Soul-Journey-Beyond-Yourself/dp/1572245379">The book  The Untethered Soul by Michael Singer</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Mühlethaler interviews Francesca Hogi, a TED speaker, host of the Dear Franny Podcast, and internationally recognized expert on dating and relationships. She's been featured in media outlets such as The Today Show, Marie Claire, The New York Times, Harper's Bazaar and The Huffington Post, and is the founder of The True Love Society, a community for people seeking deeper self and romantic love.</p><p>Anne and Francesca’s conversation begins with Francesca sharing her life story, revealing how she was a deeply romantic child who devoured her older sister's romance novels, foreshadowing her future career path. She was working as a corporate lawyer when she began her journey toward love coaching by blogging about dating. She then turned to matchmaking for several years before finding her true calling as a love coach.</p><p>Francesca tells Anne about her holistic approach to helping people find love. She also discusses some elements of her book, ​​<i>How to Find True Love: Unlock Your Romantic Flow and Create Lasting Relationships</i>, in which she breaks down four key components for readers to establish the foundations for a true love relationship: mindset, heartset, soulset, and skillset. Francesca challenges the conventional hierarchies of love, explaining how we tend to put romantic love up on this pedestal, thinking of it as the pinnacle and then assuming failure if we don’t find it in our lives. Instead, she advocates for adapting our intentions to have love through all parts of our lives.</p><p>Then Anne and Francesca delve into the realities of modern dating, particularly the evolution and impact of dating apps. Francesca pointedly reminds listeners that "swiping on a dating app is not dating — going on dates is dating," and emphasises the importance of "developing the skills — because it is all skill — to be able to meet people more organically as they live their lives."</p><p>Francesca explains what she asks her clients (and readers of her book) to develop more self-awareness, like: "What do I actually believe about myself when it comes to love?" and "In the love story of your life, what is the role that you play?" She highlights how many people hold beliefs about themselves and their romantic possibilities that are not truly in alignment with what they want, and these questions guide us back to our focus.</p><p>Their conversation turns to exploring the deeper spiritual dimensions of finding love through what Francesca calls one’s soulset: considering faith and connection to a higher power. She adds that serendipity, for example, is something that you can court intentionally, and how practicing gratitude makes you more aligned with love. She offers that having that soul-level connection and understanding our romantic energy is essential because while often we understand mind,emotion, and action, we tend to misunderstand energy. </p><p>To conclude, Anne asks her favourite questions, which has Francesca share her grounding practices, in particular her daily morning and evening journaling sessions, and her love of walking in any weather. </p><p>A warm, insightful, and empowering conversation that challenges conventional wisdom about modern love and offers a refreshing perspective on how to center love in all aspects of life. </p><p>Happy listening!<br /><br /><strong>Selected links from episode</strong></p><p>Out of the Clouds website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds">https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds</a></p><p>The Mettā View website: <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view">https://avm.consulting/metta-view</a></p><p>Anne on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>Anne on Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi">https://www.threads.net/@annvi</a></p><p>Anne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/</a></p><p>Find more about Francesca at <a href="http://francescahogi.com">FrancescaHogi.com</a></p><p><a href="https://www.francescahogi.com/book">Her book, "How to Find True Love: Unlock Your Romantic Flow and Create Lasting Relationships"</a></p><p><a href="https://howtodate.market.authoritive.com/">How to date with intention</a>, Francesca’s online course</p><p>Francesca’s <a href="https://www.patreon.com/dearfranny">True Love Society on Patreon</a>  </p><p>Find Francesca on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dearfranny">https://www.instagram.com/dearfranny</a></p><p>On LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dearfranny">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dearfranny</a></p><p>On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DearFranny</p><p>Follow Francesca’s podcast <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dearfrannypodcast/">Dear Franny</a> on Instagram </p><p>Or subscribe to the podcast <a href="https://pod.link/1475127865">on Apple Podcasts</a></p><p> </p><p>Selected links from episode:</p><p><a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/love-inc/201101/the-princess-industrial-complex">The princess industrial complex </a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Inside-Self-Book-Kids/dp/1634897382">The Love Inside, a book by Jessica Faith Graham</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7wit8_8SqA">U2 I still haven’t found what I’m looking for </a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Untethered-Soul-Journey-Beyond-Yourself/dp/1572245379">The book  The Untethered Soul by Michael Singer</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:subtitle>In this episode of Out of the Clouds host Anne Mühlethaler explores the evolution of digital spaces with Sari Azout, founder of Sublime, a personal knowledge management tool for creatives.</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds host Anne Mühlethaler explores the evolution of digital spaces with Sari Azout, founder of Sublime, a personal knowledge management tool for creatives. </p><p>Born in Barranquilla, Colombia — the magical hometown of Shakira and Gabriel García Márquez — Sari describes herself as a cerebral child who found her intellectual home first at Brown University, where she developed a "fiercely independent mindset" and discovered the joy of the library as a social space.</p><p>With remarkable foresight( Sari "could always see around corners") she strategically planned her path to remain in the U.S. as an international student and got into banking, ultimately landing at Barclays during the 2008 financial crisis. This experience taught her valuable lessons about the importance of connecting work to meaningful impact.</p><p>Next the pair discuss Sari’s project, Sublime. Sari articulates her vision as both practical and philosophical, calling it "the personal knowledge management tool of my dreams." She explains that in a world where "intelligence is being commoditized," what remains valuable are "conviction, point of view, courage, intention — the artist's way." This connects to her writing practice, which has revealed that "ideas never come to me before I write. They always come to me in the process of writing."</p><p>Their conversation delves into Sublime's three core promises: never lose a valuable idea, never be uninspired, and transform from passive consumption to active creation. Sari emphasizes wanting to "facilitate helping people make things, not just consume things," noting that "being a consumer is just a state of helplessness." Drawing inspiration from books and Marshall McLuhan's quote that "the medium is the message," she envisions a "sublime internet" that moves away from quantifiable metrics toward meaningful engagement.</p><p>Sari also speaks candidly about the tension between selfishness and selflessness in entrepreneurship, and her "willingness to be misunderstood for a longer period." She shares her vision of transitioning from the attention economy to the intention economy, reframing digital tools as something "people use instead of products people consume."</p><p>The episode concludes with Sari sharing her perspective on happiness and describing her version of "paradise on earth" as working all day alone in anticipation of an evening in great company. This interview with Sari is a fascinating exploration of how we might build more intentional, meaningful digital spaces that serve our creativity rather than just our consumption. Happy listening!</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode</strong></p><p>Out of the Clouds website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds">https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds</a></p><p>The Mettā View website: <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view">https://avm.consulting/metta-view</a></p><p>Anne on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>Anne on Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi">https://www.threads.net/@annvi</a></p><p>Anne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/</a></p><p><a href="https://sublime.app/">Sublime.app</a></p><p><a href="https://sublime.app/invite/ezXU5vsv">Join Sublime via this exclusive link</a></p><p>Sari Azout on LinkedIn <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/saraazout" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/saraazout</a></p><p>Sari on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sariazoutbaka/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/sariazoutbaka/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Sari’s newsletter <a href="https://substack.com/@sariazout">https://substack.com/@sariazout</a></p><p>And to the Sublime newsletter <a href="https://substack.com/@sublimethenewsletter">https://substack.com/@sublimethenewsletter</a></p><p>Tyler Cowel quote: “One of the highest value things you can do in life is raise other people's aspirations.”</p><p>Robert Green’s book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/48-Laws-Power-Robert-Greene/dp/0140280197">the 48 Laws of Power</a></p><p><a href="https://media.getmatter.com/media/resource/2023/12/08/CanYouImagine-SinglePageVersion.pdf">Can you imagine a library of possibilities for reimagining the web</a> -</p><p><a href="https://austinkleon.com/">Austin Kleon</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Williams_(Internet_entrepreneur)">Ev Williams</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Disappearance-Rituals-Topology-Present/dp/1509542760">The Disappearance of Rituals</a> by philosopher  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byung-Chul_Han">Byung Shul Han</a></p><p>The Zine</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPgE7PNzXag">Non-Stop from the Hamilton</a> musical soundtrack</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleph">The story of Aleph</a>, the first letter of the Hebrew alphabet</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aleph_%28short_story%29">The Aleph by Jose Luis Borges</a></p><p>X 10 Coffee <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0BbDdRh2A4">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0BbDdRh2A4</a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=6c0c7367cfc64ded">What song best represent you</a>, the Spotify playlist featuring guest answers from Out of the Clouds"</p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Ride-Lifetime-Lessons-Learned-Company/dp/0399592091">Ride of a Lifetime by Bob Iger</a></p><p><a href="https://www.simonandschuster.co.uk/books/Invention/James-Dyson/9781471198779">Invention - A Life - the James Dyson biography</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe_Dog">Shoe Dog</a>, a memoir by Phil Knight, the creator of Nike</p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds host Anne Mühlethaler explores the evolution of digital spaces with Sari Azout, founder of Sublime, a personal knowledge management tool for creatives. </p><p>Born in Barranquilla, Colombia — the magical hometown of Shakira and Gabriel García Márquez — Sari describes herself as a cerebral child who found her intellectual home first at Brown University, where she developed a "fiercely independent mindset" and discovered the joy of the library as a social space.</p><p>With remarkable foresight( Sari "could always see around corners") she strategically planned her path to remain in the U.S. as an international student and got into banking, ultimately landing at Barclays during the 2008 financial crisis. This experience taught her valuable lessons about the importance of connecting work to meaningful impact.</p><p>Next the pair discuss Sari’s project, Sublime. Sari articulates her vision as both practical and philosophical, calling it "the personal knowledge management tool of my dreams." She explains that in a world where "intelligence is being commoditized," what remains valuable are "conviction, point of view, courage, intention — the artist's way." This connects to her writing practice, which has revealed that "ideas never come to me before I write. They always come to me in the process of writing."</p><p>Their conversation delves into Sublime's three core promises: never lose a valuable idea, never be uninspired, and transform from passive consumption to active creation. Sari emphasizes wanting to "facilitate helping people make things, not just consume things," noting that "being a consumer is just a state of helplessness." Drawing inspiration from books and Marshall McLuhan's quote that "the medium is the message," she envisions a "sublime internet" that moves away from quantifiable metrics toward meaningful engagement.</p><p>Sari also speaks candidly about the tension between selfishness and selflessness in entrepreneurship, and her "willingness to be misunderstood for a longer period." She shares her vision of transitioning from the attention economy to the intention economy, reframing digital tools as something "people use instead of products people consume."</p><p>The episode concludes with Sari sharing her perspective on happiness and describing her version of "paradise on earth" as working all day alone in anticipation of an evening in great company. This interview with Sari is a fascinating exploration of how we might build more intentional, meaningful digital spaces that serve our creativity rather than just our consumption. Happy listening!</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode</strong></p><p>Out of the Clouds website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds">https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds</a></p><p>The Mettā View website: <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view">https://avm.consulting/metta-view</a></p><p>Anne on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>Anne on Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi">https://www.threads.net/@annvi</a></p><p>Anne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/</a></p><p><a href="https://sublime.app/">Sublime.app</a></p><p><a href="https://sublime.app/invite/ezXU5vsv">Join Sublime via this exclusive link</a></p><p>Sari Azout on LinkedIn <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/saraazout" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/saraazout</a></p><p>Sari on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sariazoutbaka/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/sariazoutbaka/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Sari’s newsletter <a href="https://substack.com/@sariazout">https://substack.com/@sariazout</a></p><p>And to the Sublime newsletter <a href="https://substack.com/@sublimethenewsletter">https://substack.com/@sublimethenewsletter</a></p><p>Tyler Cowel quote: “One of the highest value things you can do in life is raise other people's aspirations.”</p><p>Robert Green’s book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/48-Laws-Power-Robert-Greene/dp/0140280197">the 48 Laws of Power</a></p><p><a href="https://media.getmatter.com/media/resource/2023/12/08/CanYouImagine-SinglePageVersion.pdf">Can you imagine a library of possibilities for reimagining the web</a> -</p><p><a href="https://austinkleon.com/">Austin Kleon</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Williams_(Internet_entrepreneur)">Ev Williams</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Disappearance-Rituals-Topology-Present/dp/1509542760">The Disappearance of Rituals</a> by philosopher  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byung-Chul_Han">Byung Shul Han</a></p><p>The Zine</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPgE7PNzXag">Non-Stop from the Hamilton</a> musical soundtrack</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleph">The story of Aleph</a>, the first letter of the Hebrew alphabet</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aleph_%28short_story%29">The Aleph by Jose Luis Borges</a></p><p>X 10 Coffee <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0BbDdRh2A4">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0BbDdRh2A4</a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=6c0c7367cfc64ded">What song best represent you</a>, the Spotify playlist featuring guest answers from Out of the Clouds"</p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Ride-Lifetime-Lessons-Learned-Company/dp/0399592091">Ride of a Lifetime by Bob Iger</a></p><p><a href="https://www.simonandschuster.co.uk/books/Invention/James-Dyson/9781471198779">Invention - A Life - the James Dyson biography</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe_Dog">Shoe Dog</a>, a memoir by Phil Knight, the creator of Nike</p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Having tea with our strong emotions</title>
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			<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[In a world of increasing polarization, it's tempting to view ourselves as 'the good ones' and others as 'the bad.' Through personal reflection and insights from psychoanalysis, this episode explores how our tendency to split the world into 'us vs. them' often stems from early childhood coping mechanisms. Drawing from Buddhist wisdom, psychological research, and personal experiences, Anne Muhlethaler examines how confronting our own capacity for judgment and authoritarianism might be the key to healing our divided world in this audio from her essay of the same title, published in the Metta View.]]></itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this intimate audio essay, Anne V Mühlethaler reflects on Rebecca Shaw's piercing observation about watching powerful men "burn the world down." Through her own journey of frustration and self-reflection, Anne explores how our childhood coping mechanisms shape adult perspectives on "us vs. them."</p><p>Drawing from both psychological insights and Buddhist wisdom, Anne examines how the very qualities we despise in others might mirror parts of ourselves we'd rather not see. She weaves Dr. Guralnik's work on political polarization - how early experiences of "splitting" the world into all-good or all-bad persist into adulthood - with Buddhist teachings that offer a pathway forward through radical acceptance.</p><p>From confronting her own "inner dictator" to embracing ancient wisdom about sitting with difficult emotions, Anne invites listeners to consider: What if the key to healing our divided world begins with acknowledging the complexity within ourselves?</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode: </strong></p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jan/16/i-knew-one-day-id-have-to-watch-powerful-men-burn-the-world-down-i-just-didnt-expect-them-to-be-such-losers" target="_blank">The opinion piece by Rebecca Shaw in the Guardian</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/27/opinion/couples-therapy-political-divide.html" target="_blank">The guest essay in the New York Times by Dr Orna Guralnik </a></p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jan/22/influence-of-super-rich-on-donald-trump-threatens-democracy-say-patriotic-millionaires?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other" target="_blank">Wealth extremism</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tarabrach.com/inviting-mara-to-tea/" target="_blank">Tara Brach's article about inviting Mara to tea</a></p><p><a href="https://themettaview.com/">The Metta View</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this intimate audio essay, Anne V Mühlethaler reflects on Rebecca Shaw's piercing observation about watching powerful men "burn the world down." Through her own journey of frustration and self-reflection, Anne explores how our childhood coping mechanisms shape adult perspectives on "us vs. them."</p><p>Drawing from both psychological insights and Buddhist wisdom, Anne examines how the very qualities we despise in others might mirror parts of ourselves we'd rather not see. She weaves Dr. Guralnik's work on political polarization - how early experiences of "splitting" the world into all-good or all-bad persist into adulthood - with Buddhist teachings that offer a pathway forward through radical acceptance.</p><p>From confronting her own "inner dictator" to embracing ancient wisdom about sitting with difficult emotions, Anne invites listeners to consider: What if the key to healing our divided world begins with acknowledging the complexity within ourselves?</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode: </strong></p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jan/16/i-knew-one-day-id-have-to-watch-powerful-men-burn-the-world-down-i-just-didnt-expect-them-to-be-such-losers" target="_blank">The opinion piece by Rebecca Shaw in the Guardian</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/27/opinion/couples-therapy-political-divide.html" target="_blank">The guest essay in the New York Times by Dr Orna Guralnik </a></p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jan/22/influence-of-super-rich-on-donald-trump-threatens-democracy-say-patriotic-millionaires?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other" target="_blank">Wealth extremism</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tarabrach.com/inviting-mara-to-tea/" target="_blank">Tara Brach's article about inviting Mara to tea</a></p><p><a href="https://themettaview.com/">The Metta View</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>[THE SHORTCAST] - Lucia Dami on the divine feminine, the Elysian tarot and alchemising creativity</title>
			<itunes:title>[THE SHORTCAST] - Lucia Dami on the divine feminine, the Elysian tarot and alchemising creativity</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Feb 2025 21:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[In this Shortcast - a condensed version of the original episode - Anne Mühlethaler and tarot creator Lucia Dami explore the intersection of art, spirituality and feminine archetypes. Through her deck "The Divine Feminine", Dami shares insights on Jungian psychology, goddess mythology, and how to harness these ancient symbols for personal growth and creative expression.]]></itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<h2>Episode Notes</h2><p>In this episode of <i>Out of the Clouds</i>, Anne V. Mühlethaler welcomes artist and creator Lucia Dami for a deep dive into her creative journey, the exploration of archetypes, and her connection to the divine feminine. Lucia, a Geneva-raised artist now based in London, has been described by <i>Surface</i> magazine as “a visionary creator who channels the mystery and fluidity of the feminine into evocative works of art.” Her unique approach blends symbolism, spirituality, and storytelling to create a profound resonance with her audience.</p><p>Lucia’s work, including her highly sought-after <i>sacred portrayals</i> and <i>sacred avatar</i> commissions, allows women to see themselves reflected through a lens of empowerment and magic. Her art is not only visually striking but serves as a healing practice, honouring the fluidity and depth of the feminine.</p><p>Lucia and Anne were put in touch by their friend, the artist Julia Astok, and synchronicity was at play when Julia came to meet Anne in Geneva for one of her salons. This coincided with the dates when Lucia wanted to get her new tarot deck, the Elysian Tarot, photographed, for its Kickstarter campaign. </p><p>Together, Anne and Lucia discuss the origins and creation of <i>The Elysian Tarot</i>, starting with Lucia’s meet cute with Tarot. She explains how the project is both a personal odyssey and a tool for self-discovery. Lucia shares how a health crisis got her to reconnect with her body, spirit, and creative essence. Anne asks Lucia to talk about the role of Jungian archetypes in her workshops, and how the divine feminine in all its form become a guide to women throughout their lives. </p><p>The end the conversation on Lucia's understanding of the transformative power of creativity as a bridge between the unseen and the seen.</p><p>Selected links from episode</p><p><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/elysian-tarot/the-elysian-tarot-by-lucia-dami">Discover the Elysian Tarot</a></p><p><a href="https://www.luciadami.com/the-elysian-tarot">Book a tarot reading with Lucia Dami</a></p><p><a href="https://www.luciadami.com/products/p/sacred-avatar">Sacred avatar </a>process (with combined reading)</p><p><a href="https://www.luciadami.com/products/p/single-sacred-portrayal">Sacred portrayals</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/lucia.dami/?hl=de">Lucia’s Instagram</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Divine_Feminine">The Divine Feminine</a></p><p><a href="https://www.julia-astok.com/">Julia Astok</a></p><p><a href="https://www.myswitzerland.com/de-ch/erlebnisse/mont-saleve-hausberg-von-genf/">The Saleve</a></p><p>Lana Del Rey<a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/6aA9Ep3JuBQ77XTmYERWST?si=0c7ba22c77d246e1"> Dark Paradise</a></p><p><a href="https://www.taschen.com/de/books/art/06703/das-buch-der-symbole-betrachtungen-zu-archetypischen-bildern/">The book of Symbols by Taschen </a></p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by AVM Consulting</strong></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<h2>Episode Notes</h2><p>In this episode of <i>Out of the Clouds</i>, Anne V. Mühlethaler welcomes artist and creator Lucia Dami for a deep dive into her creative journey, the exploration of archetypes, and her connection to the divine feminine. Lucia, a Geneva-raised artist now based in London, has been described by <i>Surface</i> magazine as “a visionary creator who channels the mystery and fluidity of the feminine into evocative works of art.” Her unique approach blends symbolism, spirituality, and storytelling to create a profound resonance with her audience.</p><p>Lucia’s work, including her highly sought-after <i>sacred portrayals</i> and <i>sacred avatar</i> commissions, allows women to see themselves reflected through a lens of empowerment and magic. Her art is not only visually striking but serves as a healing practice, honouring the fluidity and depth of the feminine.</p><p>Lucia and Anne were put in touch by their friend, the artist Julia Astok, and synchronicity was at play when Julia came to meet Anne in Geneva for one of her salons. This coincided with the dates when Lucia wanted to get her new tarot deck, the Elysian Tarot, photographed, for its Kickstarter campaign. </p><p>Together, Anne and Lucia discuss the origins and creation of <i>The Elysian Tarot</i>, starting with Lucia’s meet cute with Tarot. She explains how the project is both a personal odyssey and a tool for self-discovery. Lucia shares how a health crisis got her to reconnect with her body, spirit, and creative essence. Anne asks Lucia to talk about the role of Jungian archetypes in her workshops, and how the divine feminine in all its form become a guide to women throughout their lives. </p><p>The end the conversation on Lucia's understanding of the transformative power of creativity as a bridge between the unseen and the seen.</p><p>Selected links from episode</p><p><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/elysian-tarot/the-elysian-tarot-by-lucia-dami">Discover the Elysian Tarot</a></p><p><a href="https://www.luciadami.com/the-elysian-tarot">Book a tarot reading with Lucia Dami</a></p><p><a href="https://www.luciadami.com/products/p/sacred-avatar">Sacred avatar </a>process (with combined reading)</p><p><a href="https://www.luciadami.com/products/p/single-sacred-portrayal">Sacred portrayals</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/lucia.dami/?hl=de">Lucia’s Instagram</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Divine_Feminine">The Divine Feminine</a></p><p><a href="https://www.julia-astok.com/">Julia Astok</a></p><p><a href="https://www.myswitzerland.com/de-ch/erlebnisse/mont-saleve-hausberg-von-genf/">The Saleve</a></p><p>Lana Del Rey<a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/6aA9Ep3JuBQ77XTmYERWST?si=0c7ba22c77d246e1"> Dark Paradise</a></p><p><a href="https://www.taschen.com/de/books/art/06703/das-buch-der-symbole-betrachtungen-zu-archetypischen-bildern/">The book of Symbols by Taschen </a></p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by AVM Consulting</strong></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Lucia Dami on the divine feminine, the Elysian tarot and alchemising creativity</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2025 14:58:27 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <i>Out of the Clouds</i>, Anne V. Mühlethaler welcomes artist and creator Lucia Dami for a deep dive into her creative journey, the exploration of archetypes, and her connection to the divine feminine. Lucia, a Geneva-raised artist now based in London, has been described by <i>Surface</i> magazine as “a visionary creator who channels the mystery and fluidity of the feminine into evocative works of art.” Her unique approach blends symbolism, spirituality, and storytelling to create a profound resonance with her audience.</p><p>Lucia’s work, including her highly sought-after <i>sacred portrayals</i> and <i>sacred avatar</i> commissions, allows women to see themselves reflected through a lens of empowerment and magic. Her art is not only visually striking but serves as a healing practice, honouring the fluidity and depth of the feminine.</p><p>Lucia and Anne were put in touch by their friend, the artist Julia Astok, and synchronicity was at play when Julia came to meet Anne in Geneva for one of her salons. This coincided with the dates when Lucia wanted to get her new tarot deck, the Elysian Tarot, photographed, for its Kickstarter campaign. </p><p>Together, Anne and Lucia discuss the origins and creation of <i>The Elysian Tarot</i>, starting with Lucia’s meet cute with Tarot. She explains how the project is both a personal odyssey and a tool for self-discovery. Lucia shares how a health crisis got her to reconnect with her body, spirit, and creative essence. Anne asks Lucia to talk about the role of Jungian archetypes in her workshops, and how the divine feminine in all its form become a guide to women throughout their lives. </p><p>The end the conversation on Lucia's understanding of the transformative power of creativity as a bridge between the unseen and the seen.</p><p> </p><p>Selected links from episode</p><p><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/elysian-tarot/the-elysian-tarot-by-lucia-dami">Discover the Elysian Tarot</a></p><p><a href="https://www.luciadami.com/the-elysian-tarot">Book a tarot reading with Lucia Dami</a></p><p><a href="https://www.luciadami.com/products/p/sacred-avatar">Sacred avatar </a>process (with combined reading)</p><p><a href="https://www.luciadami.com/products/p/single-sacred-portrayal">Sacred portrayals</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/lucia.dami/?hl=de">Lucia’s Instagram</a></p><p><a href="https://www.gold.ac.uk/">Goldsmith University </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Divine_Feminine">The Divine Feminine</a></p><p><a href="https://hertilityhealth.com/">Hertility</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4bLiJkFN7o">Helen O’Neil on the Working Hard, Hardly Working</a></p><p><a href="https://avm.consulting/storytelling/the-story-of-you">The Story of You program</a></p><p><a href="https://www.julia-astok.com/">Julia Astok</a></p><p><a href="https://www.myswitzerland.com/de-ch/erlebnisse/mont-saleve-hausberg-von-genf/">The Saleve</a></p><p>Lana Del Rey<a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/6aA9Ep3JuBQ77XTmYERWST?si=0c7ba22c77d246e1"> Dark Paradise</a></p><p><a href="https://www.taschen.com/de/books/art/06703/das-buch-der-symbole-betrachtungen-zu-archetypischen-bildern/">The book of Symbols by Taschen </a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <i>Out of the Clouds</i>, Anne V. Mühlethaler welcomes artist and creator Lucia Dami for a deep dive into her creative journey, the exploration of archetypes, and her connection to the divine feminine. Lucia, a Geneva-raised artist now based in London, has been described by <i>Surface</i> magazine as “a visionary creator who channels the mystery and fluidity of the feminine into evocative works of art.” Her unique approach blends symbolism, spirituality, and storytelling to create a profound resonance with her audience.</p><p>Lucia’s work, including her highly sought-after <i>sacred portrayals</i> and <i>sacred avatar</i> commissions, allows women to see themselves reflected through a lens of empowerment and magic. Her art is not only visually striking but serves as a healing practice, honouring the fluidity and depth of the feminine.</p><p>Lucia and Anne were put in touch by their friend, the artist Julia Astok, and synchronicity was at play when Julia came to meet Anne in Geneva for one of her salons. This coincided with the dates when Lucia wanted to get her new tarot deck, the Elysian Tarot, photographed, for its Kickstarter campaign. </p><p>Together, Anne and Lucia discuss the origins and creation of <i>The Elysian Tarot</i>, starting with Lucia’s meet cute with Tarot. She explains how the project is both a personal odyssey and a tool for self-discovery. Lucia shares how a health crisis got her to reconnect with her body, spirit, and creative essence. Anne asks Lucia to talk about the role of Jungian archetypes in her workshops, and how the divine feminine in all its form become a guide to women throughout their lives. </p><p>The end the conversation on Lucia's understanding of the transformative power of creativity as a bridge between the unseen and the seen.</p><p> </p><p>Selected links from episode</p><p><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/elysian-tarot/the-elysian-tarot-by-lucia-dami">Discover the Elysian Tarot</a></p><p><a href="https://www.luciadami.com/the-elysian-tarot">Book a tarot reading with Lucia Dami</a></p><p><a href="https://www.luciadami.com/products/p/sacred-avatar">Sacred avatar </a>process (with combined reading)</p><p><a href="https://www.luciadami.com/products/p/single-sacred-portrayal">Sacred portrayals</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/lucia.dami/?hl=de">Lucia’s Instagram</a></p><p><a href="https://www.gold.ac.uk/">Goldsmith University </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Divine_Feminine">The Divine Feminine</a></p><p><a href="https://hertilityhealth.com/">Hertility</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4bLiJkFN7o">Helen O’Neil on the Working Hard, Hardly Working</a></p><p><a href="https://avm.consulting/storytelling/the-story-of-you">The Story of You program</a></p><p><a href="https://www.julia-astok.com/">Julia Astok</a></p><p><a href="https://www.myswitzerland.com/de-ch/erlebnisse/mont-saleve-hausberg-von-genf/">The Saleve</a></p><p>Lana Del Rey<a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/6aA9Ep3JuBQ77XTmYERWST?si=0c7ba22c77d246e1"> Dark Paradise</a></p><p><a href="https://www.taschen.com/de/books/art/06703/das-buch-der-symbole-betrachtungen-zu-archetypischen-bildern/">The book of Symbols by Taschen </a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>The Mindful Dance of Life: Embracing Failure and Intuition</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 31 Dec 2024 09:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Anne Mühlethaler presents an audio version of her end of year reflective essay from her soon-to-launch podcast, the audio companion to her newsletter, The Mettā View, all about finding encouragement in discouragement.elected links from episode The Mettā View newsletter and podcast homepageTo subscribe to the Mettā View, head over here.Download Anne's reflection guide, renamed Your Story, Your Map.]]></itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>This episode is a hybrid one of sorts, as host Anne Mühlethaler presents a new podcast launching soon: the companion to her newsletter, The Mettā View. </p><p>For The Mettā View Anne regularly writes personal essays coloured with a mindful lens. In this episode she shares the audio version of her last newsletter essay of 2024, all about her end-of-year thoughts on letting go and trusting the flow. </p><p>Anne reflects that 2024 has been a journey of embracing failure, trusting her intuition and learning to dance with life’s unexpected turns. Join her as she reflects on the lessons learnt, the wisdom gained and the importance of letting go of the need to control (which is tough but important). </p><p>Inspired by the teachings of mindfulness mentor David Cabrera, this episode explores the power of “allowing the dharma to happen” and finding encouragement in discouragement. And, above all, dancing with life.     </p><h2>Selected links from episode</h2><p><a href="https://themettaview.com/" target="_blank">The Mettā View newsletter and podcast homepage</a></p><p>To subscribe to the Mettā View, <a href="https://avm-consulting.kit.com/metta-view" target="_blank">head over here</a>.</p><p>Download Anne's reflection guide, renamed <a href="https://avm-consulting.ck.page/52fd676b94">Your Story, Your Map</a>.</p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>This episode is a hybrid one of sorts, as host Anne Mühlethaler presents a new podcast launching soon: the companion to her newsletter, The Mettā View. </p><p>For The Mettā View Anne regularly writes personal essays coloured with a mindful lens. In this episode she shares the audio version of her last newsletter essay of 2024, all about her end-of-year thoughts on letting go and trusting the flow. </p><p>Anne reflects that 2024 has been a journey of embracing failure, trusting her intuition and learning to dance with life’s unexpected turns. Join her as she reflects on the lessons learnt, the wisdom gained and the importance of letting go of the need to control (which is tough but important). </p><p>Inspired by the teachings of mindfulness mentor David Cabrera, this episode explores the power of “allowing the dharma to happen” and finding encouragement in discouragement. And, above all, dancing with life.     </p><h2>Selected links from episode</h2><p><a href="https://themettaview.com/" target="_blank">The Mettā View newsletter and podcast homepage</a></p><p>To subscribe to the Mettā View, <a href="https://avm-consulting.kit.com/metta-view" target="_blank">head over here</a>.</p><p>Download Anne's reflection guide, renamed <a href="https://avm-consulting.ck.page/52fd676b94">Your Story, Your Map</a>.</p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Loving Kindness for Mentors - Guided meditation</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2024 17:43:51 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>This is a guided Mettā meditation, also known as Loving Kindness, dedicated towards our mentors.</p><p>Anne V Mühlethaler, coach and certified mindfulness meditation teacher,Anne starts the session by inviting us to bring an intention to mind, for clarity. Then she invites us to bring to mind a being, a person who has inspired us in some way — whether they were an official or more of an undercover mentor — who lit our path and helped us in some way. </p><p>In this practice, we consider the qualities of our mentor that we want to emulate, to nurture. Then we hold this person in our mind’s eye and we repeat phrases of well-wishes. We sendLoving Kindness with gratitude directed toward this first mentor, and then toward a second. </p><p>Anne closes the practice by inviting us to imagine our caring mentors sending us the same well wishes of Loving Kindness. In an energetic gratitude loop of metta, Anne invites us to direct Loving Kindness to ourselves, ending with our own mentor wish:</p><p>“May I too become a beacon, radiating guidance and inspiration.  </p><p>May I too be a mentor, illuminating the  path for those in need of clarity and direction, whether I support them in their personal life or in their career.” </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>This is a guided Mettā meditation, also known as Loving Kindness, dedicated towards our mentors.</p><p>Anne V Mühlethaler, coach and certified mindfulness meditation teacher,Anne starts the session by inviting us to bring an intention to mind, for clarity. Then she invites us to bring to mind a being, a person who has inspired us in some way — whether they were an official or more of an undercover mentor — who lit our path and helped us in some way. </p><p>In this practice, we consider the qualities of our mentor that we want to emulate, to nurture. Then we hold this person in our mind’s eye and we repeat phrases of well-wishes. We sendLoving Kindness with gratitude directed toward this first mentor, and then toward a second. </p><p>Anne closes the practice by inviting us to imagine our caring mentors sending us the same well wishes of Loving Kindness. In an energetic gratitude loop of metta, Anne invites us to direct Loving Kindness to ourselves, ending with our own mentor wish:</p><p>“May I too become a beacon, radiating guidance and inspiration.  </p><p>May I too be a mentor, illuminating the  path for those in need of clarity and direction, whether I support them in their personal life or in their career.” </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Kia Miller on dialling into presence, building self-trust, and Radiant Body Yoga</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2024 09:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Mühlethaler explores the transformative world of Kundalini yoga with accomplished yoga teacher Kia Miller. </p><p>In addition to Kundalini, Kia also teaches meditation, breathwork, and Vinyasa yoga. In their conversation, Anne and Kia dive right into Kia’s meditation, grounding and breathwork practices, before Kia recounts how she has blended her beloved Ashtanga Vinyasa with Kundalini tradition to form the unique Radiant Body Yoga school. </p><p>With an emphasis on the power of breathwork and energy coherence, Kia shares how she evolved to discover these practices and how they harmonise the energies of heart and mind, ultimately offering a balanced approach to managing the stresses of modern life. Kia's journey reveals the profound impact that yoga can have on building self-trust and presence.</p><p>Kia opens to Anne about her personal evolution from an athlete that was disconnected from deeper self-awareness to a yoga teacher who embodies authenticity and presence. She discusses how Kundalini yoga ignited a spark within her, leading to a newfound intimacy with herself and a conscious way of living. Kia found inspiration and support through her teachers Guru Singh — whom she calls a wayseer — and Guru Chan. Kia explains how she found a path to connect genuinely with the present moment, shedding her old skin metaphorically, and became the teacher she is today.</p><p>Kia talks in depth about the spiritual awakening that is facilitated by Kundalini yoga in focusing energy at the pineal gland. Kia likens the pineal body to a radio receiver that, through dynamic movement, breathwork and meditation, can release powerful chemicals, facilitating deeper spiritual experiences. Kia tells Anne how Kundalini kriyas (a specific sequence of physical actions that work toward a particular outcome) help shift awareness from a "me-centric" to a "we-centric" consciousness, enhancing interconnectedness and making infinite potential accessible.</p><p>Grounding practices are another focal point of the conversation, with Kia emphasising to Anne the importance of breathwork, core kriyas and energetic field practices for maintaining energy and stability. She shares her secret superpower of deep empathy and highlights how food, nature walks, and connection contribute to radiance and happiness. The episode concludes with Anne and Kia making reflections on the essence of happiness found within connection, reinforcing the idea that true happiness lies within.</p><p>A compelling discussion about self-discovery, finding the source of inner power, and our interconnectedness, with a devoted yogini and accomplished teacher. Happy listening! </p><p> </p><p>Out of the Clouds website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds">https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds</a></p><p>The Mettā View website: <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view">https://avm.consulting/metta-view</a></p><p>Anne on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>Anne on Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi">https://www.threads.net/@annvi</a></p><p>Anne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/</a></p><p>Find out more about Kia and Radian Body Yoga on her website <a href="https://www.kiamiller.com/">https://www.kiamiller.com/</a></p><p>Kia Miller Yoga on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/kiamilleryoga/">https://www.instagram.com/kiamilleryoga/</a></p><p>Upcoming retreats and events <a href="https://offerings.kiamiller.com/rby-events">https://offerings.kiamiller.com/rby-events</a></p><p>200h teacher training <a href="https://offerings.kiamiller.com/rby-200-hour">https://offerings.kiamiller.com/rby-200-hour</a></p><p>Sri Sadhana Retreat in India <a href="https://offerings.kiamiller.com/sri-sadhana-retreat">https://offerings.kiamiller.com/sri-sadhana-retreat</a></p><p>Take classes online with Kia via Glo.com <a href="https://www.glo.com/teachers/kia-miller">https://www.glo.com/teachers/kia-miller</a></p><p>Find many free practices and talks on Kia’s YouTube Channel <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@KiaMiller">https://www.youtube.com/@KiaMiller</a></p><p>Discover Kia’s interview on the Finding Harmony Podcast for more on her childhood, ashtanga and more. <a href="https://harmonyslater.com/finding-harmony-podcast/2022/kia-miller">https://harmonyslater.com/finding-harmony-podcast/2022/kia-miller</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtanga_(eight_limbs_of_yoga)">Ashtanga yoga </a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/anniecarpentersmartflow/?hl=de">Annie Carpenter</a></p><p><a href="https://gurusingh.com/">Guru Singh </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page">Kundalini yoga</a></p><p><a href="https://gurucharan.com">Guru Charan</a></p><p><a href="https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/5022/kriya">Kriya </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadi_(yoga)">Nadis</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland">The pineal gland</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pituitary_gland">The pituitary gland</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothalamus">The hypothalamus </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N,N-Dimethyltryptamine">DMT</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kshetram">Kshetram</a></p><p><a href="https://yogaharta.com.au/2019/09/24/hiranyagarbha/">Hiranyagarbha</a></p><p>Kia’s Miller’s choice for what song best represents her is a mantra, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waheguru">Waheguru</a></p><p>Pandit Rajmani Thiginayak’s book ‘<a href="https://www.amazon.com/At-Eleventh-Hour-biography-Swami/dp/0893892122">At the Eleventh Hour</a>’</p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Mühlethaler explores the transformative world of Kundalini yoga with accomplished yoga teacher Kia Miller. </p><p>In addition to Kundalini, Kia also teaches meditation, breathwork, and Vinyasa yoga. In their conversation, Anne and Kia dive right into Kia’s meditation, grounding and breathwork practices, before Kia recounts how she has blended her beloved Ashtanga Vinyasa with Kundalini tradition to form the unique Radiant Body Yoga school. </p><p>With an emphasis on the power of breathwork and energy coherence, Kia shares how she evolved to discover these practices and how they harmonise the energies of heart and mind, ultimately offering a balanced approach to managing the stresses of modern life. Kia's journey reveals the profound impact that yoga can have on building self-trust and presence.</p><p>Kia opens to Anne about her personal evolution from an athlete that was disconnected from deeper self-awareness to a yoga teacher who embodies authenticity and presence. She discusses how Kundalini yoga ignited a spark within her, leading to a newfound intimacy with herself and a conscious way of living. Kia found inspiration and support through her teachers Guru Singh — whom she calls a wayseer — and Guru Chan. Kia explains how she found a path to connect genuinely with the present moment, shedding her old skin metaphorically, and became the teacher she is today.</p><p>Kia talks in depth about the spiritual awakening that is facilitated by Kundalini yoga in focusing energy at the pineal gland. Kia likens the pineal body to a radio receiver that, through dynamic movement, breathwork and meditation, can release powerful chemicals, facilitating deeper spiritual experiences. Kia tells Anne how Kundalini kriyas (a specific sequence of physical actions that work toward a particular outcome) help shift awareness from a "me-centric" to a "we-centric" consciousness, enhancing interconnectedness and making infinite potential accessible.</p><p>Grounding practices are another focal point of the conversation, with Kia emphasising to Anne the importance of breathwork, core kriyas and energetic field practices for maintaining energy and stability. She shares her secret superpower of deep empathy and highlights how food, nature walks, and connection contribute to radiance and happiness. The episode concludes with Anne and Kia making reflections on the essence of happiness found within connection, reinforcing the idea that true happiness lies within.</p><p>A compelling discussion about self-discovery, finding the source of inner power, and our interconnectedness, with a devoted yogini and accomplished teacher. Happy listening! </p><p> </p><p>Out of the Clouds website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds">https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds</a></p><p>The Mettā View website: <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view">https://avm.consulting/metta-view</a></p><p>Anne on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>Anne on Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi">https://www.threads.net/@annvi</a></p><p>Anne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/</a></p><p>Find out more about Kia and Radian Body Yoga on her website <a href="https://www.kiamiller.com/">https://www.kiamiller.com/</a></p><p>Kia Miller Yoga on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/kiamilleryoga/">https://www.instagram.com/kiamilleryoga/</a></p><p>Upcoming retreats and events <a href="https://offerings.kiamiller.com/rby-events">https://offerings.kiamiller.com/rby-events</a></p><p>200h teacher training <a href="https://offerings.kiamiller.com/rby-200-hour">https://offerings.kiamiller.com/rby-200-hour</a></p><p>Sri Sadhana Retreat in India <a href="https://offerings.kiamiller.com/sri-sadhana-retreat">https://offerings.kiamiller.com/sri-sadhana-retreat</a></p><p>Take classes online with Kia via Glo.com <a href="https://www.glo.com/teachers/kia-miller">https://www.glo.com/teachers/kia-miller</a></p><p>Find many free practices and talks on Kia’s YouTube Channel <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@KiaMiller">https://www.youtube.com/@KiaMiller</a></p><p>Discover Kia’s interview on the Finding Harmony Podcast for more on her childhood, ashtanga and more. <a href="https://harmonyslater.com/finding-harmony-podcast/2022/kia-miller">https://harmonyslater.com/finding-harmony-podcast/2022/kia-miller</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtanga_(eight_limbs_of_yoga)">Ashtanga yoga </a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/anniecarpentersmartflow/?hl=de">Annie Carpenter</a></p><p><a href="https://gurusingh.com/">Guru Singh </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page">Kundalini yoga</a></p><p><a href="https://gurucharan.com">Guru Charan</a></p><p><a href="https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/5022/kriya">Kriya </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadi_(yoga)">Nadis</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland">The pineal gland</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pituitary_gland">The pituitary gland</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothalamus">The hypothalamus </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N,N-Dimethyltryptamine">DMT</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kshetram">Kshetram</a></p><p><a href="https://yogaharta.com.au/2019/09/24/hiranyagarbha/">Hiranyagarbha</a></p><p>Kia’s Miller’s choice for what song best represents her is a mantra, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waheguru">Waheguru</a></p><p>Pandit Rajmani Thiginayak’s book ‘<a href="https://www.amazon.com/At-Eleventh-Hour-biography-Swami/dp/0893892122">At the Eleventh Hour</a>’</p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>[The Shortcast] Jeremy Langmead on male vanity, cancer literacy and How Long Have You Got?</title>
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			<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[The shortcast of Out of the Clouds is an abridged version of the full length interview published earlier this year. In this episode, Anne Mühlethaler interviews men’s fashion strategist and writer Jeremy Landmead about his career in fashion, his experience with and work to raise awareness about prostate cancer, his podcast 'How Long Have You Got?' and the intersection of vanity and authenticity.]]></itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy Langmead is one of the founders of the global men’s e-tailer, Mr Porter, part of the YOOX Net-a-Porter Group. He joined in 2010 to help launch the e-commerce business in 2011 and oversaw the design, branding, content, social, communications and events teams for a number of years.</p><p>Jeremy has also served as chief content officer at Christie’s, launched LUXX magazine for The Times in 2017, and was previously editor-in-chief of Esquire, Wallpaper and the Sunday Times Style magazines.</p><p>Today Jeremy consults for a number of fashion and grooming brands; writes for The Times Saturday magazine, a grooming column for The Times’ LUXX magazine, the Telegraph, and has published a book on male vanity called “Vain Glorious;” and is the co-host of the podcast “How Long Have We Got?” with his friend Sarah Edmundson.   </p><p>In this episode, Jeremy tells host Anne V Mühlethaler about his tumultuous childhood, filled with numerous stepfathers and a desire to create perfect worlds as a means of escape. </p><p>Jeremy recounts his early days in fashion, his time at Central St Martin’s and the career progression that led him from newspapers and magazines to Mr Porter (and the Mr Porter Post). From his move from the global e-tailer to Christie's and back, he shares the lessons he’s learned and the importance of innovation and storytelling in his professional journey. </p><p>Jeremy candidly shares with Anne his battle with prostate cancer, offering a raw and honest look at the challenges he faced. His diagnosis became a focal point for raising awareness about the importance of early detection in prostate cancer (check your PSAs, he reminds our listeners), which is what led him to write publicly about his experience for the Times and the Saturday Times Magazine. He explains how he met his friend and co-host Sarah and how the two of them decided to start a podcast that tries to “take the kerfuffle out of cancer,” in their own words. </p><p>Jeremy emphasises the complexities of living (and working) while in treatment, including how his relationship with his body has changed. He and Anne discuss how we can harness the power of storytelling to support patients in their health journeys and the crucial importance of cancer literacy.</p><p>Throughout the discussion, Jeremy talks about the intersection of vanity and authenticity, particularly as a gay man in the fashion world. He shares stories with Anne about his own experiences with male grooming (from hair transplant to eyelash dying) and explores the societal perceptions of vanity, encouraging men to embrace their desires to look and feel good without shame. </p><p>While the topic of the episode is serious at times, Jeremy shares his story with humour, tact and warmth, understanding the significant influence that the podcast has on the cancer community and those close to someone living with the illness.   </p><p>By sharing his story, Jeremy not only raises awareness for early testing in prostate cancer, but also offers inspiration to listeners to find beauty and meaning in their journeys, regardless of the obstacles they may face.</p><p>An inspiring conversation that shows how humour, resilience and storytelling go hand in hand.</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode:</strong></p><p>Out of the Clouds website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds">https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds</a></p><p>The Mettā View website: <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view">https://avm.consulting/metta-view</a></p><p>Anne on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>Anne on Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi">https://www.threads.net/@annvi</a></p><p>Anne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/</a></p><p>Jeremy on LinkedIn: <a href="https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jeremylangmead">https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jeremylangmead</a></p><p>Jeremy on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jeremylangmead/">https://www.instagram.com/jeremylangmead/</a></p><p>Jeremy and Sarah’s podcast <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/how-long-have-you-got/id1740960651">How Long Have You Got</a></p><p>How Long Have You Got on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/howlonghaveyougot2024/">https://www.instagram.com/howlonghaveyougot2024/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thetimes.com/uk/healthcare/article/jeremy-langmead-prostate-cancer-psa-test-surgery-mqpks2v7z">Jeremy’s first article for the Times</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thetimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/article/prostate-cancer-breast-cancer-jeremy-langmead-w963k0lqt">Jeremy’s follow up article about the podcast with Sarah Edmundson</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/alua_arthur_why_thinking_about_death_helps_you_live_a_better_life">Death Dula Alua Arthur’s TED talk</a></p><p><a href="https://www.macmillan.org.uk/">MacMillan Cancer Support </a></p><p><a href="https://breastcancernow.org/">Breast Cancer Support Now</a></p><p>What song best represents him : <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fv8IqyqEjU">Pet Shop Boys ‘It’s a sin’</a> and ‘<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVC-jusXGno">being boring’ </a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=4108e18b9e724c30">Here you can find the Out of the Clouds playlist</a> containing the songs chosen by the guests who answered the question: ‘What Song Best Represents You?’ </p><p>Favorite books <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Cold_Blood">Truman Capote’s In Cold Blood</a> and Bruce Chatwin's <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Am_I_Doing_Here_(book)">What Am I Doing Here?</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.guysandstthomas.nhs.uk/guys-cancer">Cancer Centre at Guy’s Hospital</a></p><p>***</p><p><strong>Are you curious about Anne's Coaching & Consulting:</strong></p><p>Feeling lost or burnt out? Discover Anne's blend of business savvy & spirituality. </p><p>Transition from career exhaustion to trusting yourself again with her unique coaching approach.</p><p>Book your free one on one exploratory coaching session <a href="https://calendly.com/avm-consulting-/exploratory-coaching-session-with-avm">here</a>. To find out more about Anne's coaching approach, her consulting background and more, <a href="https://avm.consulting/coaching">head over here</a>.</p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy Langmead is one of the founders of the global men’s e-tailer, Mr Porter, part of the YOOX Net-a-Porter Group. He joined in 2010 to help launch the e-commerce business in 2011 and oversaw the design, branding, content, social, communications and events teams for a number of years.</p><p>Jeremy has also served as chief content officer at Christie’s, launched LUXX magazine for The Times in 2017, and was previously editor-in-chief of Esquire, Wallpaper and the Sunday Times Style magazines.</p><p>Today Jeremy consults for a number of fashion and grooming brands; writes for The Times Saturday magazine, a grooming column for The Times’ LUXX magazine, the Telegraph, and has published a book on male vanity called “Vain Glorious;” and is the co-host of the podcast “How Long Have We Got?” with his friend Sarah Edmundson.   </p><p>In this episode, Jeremy tells host Anne V Mühlethaler about his tumultuous childhood, filled with numerous stepfathers and a desire to create perfect worlds as a means of escape. </p><p>Jeremy recounts his early days in fashion, his time at Central St Martin’s and the career progression that led him from newspapers and magazines to Mr Porter (and the Mr Porter Post). From his move from the global e-tailer to Christie's and back, he shares the lessons he’s learned and the importance of innovation and storytelling in his professional journey. </p><p>Jeremy candidly shares with Anne his battle with prostate cancer, offering a raw and honest look at the challenges he faced. His diagnosis became a focal point for raising awareness about the importance of early detection in prostate cancer (check your PSAs, he reminds our listeners), which is what led him to write publicly about his experience for the Times and the Saturday Times Magazine. He explains how he met his friend and co-host Sarah and how the two of them decided to start a podcast that tries to “take the kerfuffle out of cancer,” in their own words. </p><p>Jeremy emphasises the complexities of living (and working) while in treatment, including how his relationship with his body has changed. He and Anne discuss how we can harness the power of storytelling to support patients in their health journeys and the crucial importance of cancer literacy.</p><p>Throughout the discussion, Jeremy talks about the intersection of vanity and authenticity, particularly as a gay man in the fashion world. He shares stories with Anne about his own experiences with male grooming (from hair transplant to eyelash dying) and explores the societal perceptions of vanity, encouraging men to embrace their desires to look and feel good without shame. </p><p>While the topic of the episode is serious at times, Jeremy shares his story with humour, tact and warmth, understanding the significant influence that the podcast has on the cancer community and those close to someone living with the illness.   </p><p>By sharing his story, Jeremy not only raises awareness for early testing in prostate cancer, but also offers inspiration to listeners to find beauty and meaning in their journeys, regardless of the obstacles they may face.</p><p>An inspiring conversation that shows how humour, resilience and storytelling go hand in hand.</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode:</strong></p><p>Out of the Clouds website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds">https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds</a></p><p>The Mettā View website: <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view">https://avm.consulting/metta-view</a></p><p>Anne on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>Anne on Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi">https://www.threads.net/@annvi</a></p><p>Anne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/</a></p><p>Jeremy on LinkedIn: <a href="https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jeremylangmead">https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jeremylangmead</a></p><p>Jeremy on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jeremylangmead/">https://www.instagram.com/jeremylangmead/</a></p><p>Jeremy and Sarah’s podcast <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/how-long-have-you-got/id1740960651">How Long Have You Got</a></p><p>How Long Have You Got on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/howlonghaveyougot2024/">https://www.instagram.com/howlonghaveyougot2024/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thetimes.com/uk/healthcare/article/jeremy-langmead-prostate-cancer-psa-test-surgery-mqpks2v7z">Jeremy’s first article for the Times</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thetimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/article/prostate-cancer-breast-cancer-jeremy-langmead-w963k0lqt">Jeremy’s follow up article about the podcast with Sarah Edmundson</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/alua_arthur_why_thinking_about_death_helps_you_live_a_better_life">Death Dula Alua Arthur’s TED talk</a></p><p><a href="https://www.macmillan.org.uk/">MacMillan Cancer Support </a></p><p><a href="https://breastcancernow.org/">Breast Cancer Support Now</a></p><p>What song best represents him : <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fv8IqyqEjU">Pet Shop Boys ‘It’s a sin’</a> and ‘<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVC-jusXGno">being boring’ </a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=4108e18b9e724c30">Here you can find the Out of the Clouds playlist</a> containing the songs chosen by the guests who answered the question: ‘What Song Best Represents You?’ </p><p>Favorite books <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Cold_Blood">Truman Capote’s In Cold Blood</a> and Bruce Chatwin's <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Am_I_Doing_Here_(book)">What Am I Doing Here?</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.guysandstthomas.nhs.uk/guys-cancer">Cancer Centre at Guy’s Hospital</a></p><p>***</p><p><strong>Are you curious about Anne's Coaching & Consulting:</strong></p><p>Feeling lost or burnt out? Discover Anne's blend of business savvy & spirituality. </p><p>Transition from career exhaustion to trusting yourself again with her unique coaching approach.</p><p>Book your free one on one exploratory coaching session <a href="https://calendly.com/avm-consulting-/exploratory-coaching-session-with-avm">here</a>. To find out more about Anne's coaching approach, her consulting background and more, <a href="https://avm.consulting/coaching">head over here</a>.</p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<itunes:title>Shoshana Stewart on serendipity, Turquoise Mountain and the superpower of cultural heritage</itunes:title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Shoshana Stewart is the president of Turquoise Mountain, an NGO founded in 2006 in Afghanistan by His Majesty King Charles, to preserve cultural heritage and support artisans where their traditions are under threat. Shoshana lived in Afghanistan for five years when she first joined, and has led the project to create over 25,000 jobs, bring over $17 million of crafts to market, build the Institute for Afghan Arts and Architecture, restored over 150 historic buildings in the Old City of Kabul, and provided primary healthcare for almost 200,000 people. She has also expanded the project to work with artisans in Myanmar, Saudi Arabia, Jordan (including Syrian refugees), and Palestine.</p><p>Shoshana has an MBA from the London Business School, a master’s degree in Education, and a bachelor's degree in Astrophysics. She is also a Senior Fellow at Yale’s Jackson Institute for Global Affairs.</p><p>Shoshana shares with Anne her life’s serendipitous journey which began in astrophysics, before leading her to teach 8th grade science, and that saw her find her way to Afghanistan, in a career cultural heritage restoration in Afghanistan. </p><p>Turquoise Mountain was created with the original goal of revitalising Kabul’s architectural legacy, as Shoshana explains, and now supports artisan communities in several regions of the world. Shoshana emphasises to Anne the organisation's expansive work with artisans and, in some areas, with refugees in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Palestine and Myanmar.</p><p>Further going into Turquoise Mountain's initiatives, Shoshana tells Anne about her experience and the collective effort that was the restoration of the area of <a href="https://www.turquoisemountain.org/afghanistan/muradkhani">Murad Khan</a>i in old Kabul and how putting the art school in the centre of the old city gave the project a sort of a beating heart for this impressive regeneration project. </p><p>She shares compelling stories of resilience and creativity, showcasing how these efforts were helped by global collaborations. Designers like ethical jeweller Pippa Small play a pivotal role in this story, bringing Afghan jewellery to international markets and highlighting the powerful impact of blending tradition with modern market strategies.</p><p>Through these partnerships, Shoshana further emphasises how the work of the nonprofit not only preserves cultural heritage, but also creates sustainable livelihoods for artisans.</p><p>Shoshana also tells Anne about her decision to pursue an MBA to address market challenges, which showcases her commitment to finding innovative solutions for artisan communities. </p><p>Their discussion touches on the significant challenges posed by recent global events, including political upheavals and the COVID-19 pandemic, underscoring the resilience of the communities supported by Turquoise Mountain. The organisation’s ability to maintain connections and support artisans through these turbulent times is a testament to its enduring impact.</p><p>As the conversation unfolds further, Shoshana highlights the transformative power of cultural heritage in fostering connections between artisans and clients, and changing perceptions about regions often associated with conflict. Anne then touches on broader themes of mindfulness and intentional living, and Shoshana shares the practices that ground her amidst the ongoing challenges she experiences. </p><p>This interview provides a rich illustration of stories and insights from Shoshana's work with Turquoise Mountain. It paints a vivid picture of how cultural preservation can create a positive global impact, demonstrating the importance of heritage and craftsmanship in building resilient communities.</p><p>A compelling conversation with an exceptional leader and advocate for the craftsmen and craftswomen she supports. Happy listening!</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode:</strong></p><p>Out of the Clouds website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds">https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds</a></p><p>The Mettā View website: <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view">https://avm.consulting/metta-view</a></p><p>Anne on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>Anne on Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi">https://www.threads.net/@annvi</a></p><p>Anne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/</a></p><p>Shoshana Stewart on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shoshana-stewart">https://www.linkedin.com/in/shoshana-stewart</a></p><p>Turquoise Mountain website: <a href="https://www.turquoisemountain.org/">https://www.turquoisemountain.org/</a></p><p>Turquoise Mountain on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/turquoisemountain/">https://www.instagram.com/turquoisemountain/</a></p><p>Shoshana’s talk at TEDx: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo2qgHUDbRo">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo2qgHUDbRo</a></p><p>Shoshana’s talk at London Business School: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ty1PzJa_Yg">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ty1PzJa_Yg</a></p><p><a href="https://www.williams.edu/">Williams College</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Pasachoff">Jay Pasachoff </a></p><p><a href="https://www.teachforamerica.org/">Teach for America</a>   </p><p><a href="https://jackson.yale.edu/person/shoshana-stewart/">Yale’s Jackson School for Global Affairs</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rory_Stewart">Rory Stewart </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minaret_of_Jam">Minaret of Jam</a></p><p><a href="https://www.the-connaught.co.uk">The Connaught Hotel </a></p><p><a href="https://www.the-connaught.co.uk/rooms-and-suites/the-princes-lodge/">The Prince’s Lodge</a></p><p><a href="https://www.the-connaught.co.uk/rooms-and-suites/the-kings-lodge/">The King’s Lodge</a></p><p><a href="https://pippasmall.com/?srsltid=AfmBOorUIlXnpVbzaYd4dAUcS8aq7zGjCipQWf7lBZ2L0vb0u5Rqp8Cb">Pippa Small</a></p><p><a href="http://www.guyoliver.co.uk/">Guy Oliver</a></p><p><a href="https://pippasmall.com/collections/turquoise-mountain-collection-afghanistan">Pippa Small’s Afghan-made collection</a></p><p><a href="https://pippasmall.com/collections/bethlehem">Pippa Small’s Olive Bethlehem collection </a></p><p><a href="https://www.aliph-foundation.org/">Aliph Foundation, the Alliance for the Protection of Cultural Heritage in Conflict </a></p><p><a href="https://cultural-protection-fund.britishcouncil.org/">the British Council's Cultural Protection Fund</a></p><p><a href="https://in.usembassy.gov/education-culture/ambassador-fund-for-cultural-preservation/">the American Embassy's  Ambassador's Fund</a></p><p><a href="https://www.goethe.de/de/index.html">the Goethe Institute</a></p><p><a href="https://www.onepeloton.com/app?">Peloton App</a></p><p><a href="https://www.onepeloton.com/instructors/hannah-corbin">Hannah Corbin</a></p><p>Taylor Swift’s<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvVBuG4IOW4"> Shake It Off</a></p><p>Philip Pullman’s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Dark_Materials">His Dark Materials</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Shoshana Stewart is the president of Turquoise Mountain, an NGO founded in 2006 in Afghanistan by His Majesty King Charles, to preserve cultural heritage and support artisans where their traditions are under threat. Shoshana lived in Afghanistan for five years when she first joined, and has led the project to create over 25,000 jobs, bring over $17 million of crafts to market, build the Institute for Afghan Arts and Architecture, restored over 150 historic buildings in the Old City of Kabul, and provided primary healthcare for almost 200,000 people. She has also expanded the project to work with artisans in Myanmar, Saudi Arabia, Jordan (including Syrian refugees), and Palestine.</p><p>Shoshana has an MBA from the London Business School, a master’s degree in Education, and a bachelor's degree in Astrophysics. She is also a Senior Fellow at Yale’s Jackson Institute for Global Affairs.</p><p>Shoshana shares with Anne her life’s serendipitous journey which began in astrophysics, before leading her to teach 8th grade science, and that saw her find her way to Afghanistan, in a career cultural heritage restoration in Afghanistan. </p><p>Turquoise Mountain was created with the original goal of revitalising Kabul’s architectural legacy, as Shoshana explains, and now supports artisan communities in several regions of the world. Shoshana emphasises to Anne the organisation's expansive work with artisans and, in some areas, with refugees in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Palestine and Myanmar.</p><p>Further going into Turquoise Mountain's initiatives, Shoshana tells Anne about her experience and the collective effort that was the restoration of the area of <a href="https://www.turquoisemountain.org/afghanistan/muradkhani">Murad Khan</a>i in old Kabul and how putting the art school in the centre of the old city gave the project a sort of a beating heart for this impressive regeneration project. </p><p>She shares compelling stories of resilience and creativity, showcasing how these efforts were helped by global collaborations. Designers like ethical jeweller Pippa Small play a pivotal role in this story, bringing Afghan jewellery to international markets and highlighting the powerful impact of blending tradition with modern market strategies.</p><p>Through these partnerships, Shoshana further emphasises how the work of the nonprofit not only preserves cultural heritage, but also creates sustainable livelihoods for artisans.</p><p>Shoshana also tells Anne about her decision to pursue an MBA to address market challenges, which showcases her commitment to finding innovative solutions for artisan communities. </p><p>Their discussion touches on the significant challenges posed by recent global events, including political upheavals and the COVID-19 pandemic, underscoring the resilience of the communities supported by Turquoise Mountain. The organisation’s ability to maintain connections and support artisans through these turbulent times is a testament to its enduring impact.</p><p>As the conversation unfolds further, Shoshana highlights the transformative power of cultural heritage in fostering connections between artisans and clients, and changing perceptions about regions often associated with conflict. Anne then touches on broader themes of mindfulness and intentional living, and Shoshana shares the practices that ground her amidst the ongoing challenges she experiences. </p><p>This interview provides a rich illustration of stories and insights from Shoshana's work with Turquoise Mountain. It paints a vivid picture of how cultural preservation can create a positive global impact, demonstrating the importance of heritage and craftsmanship in building resilient communities.</p><p>A compelling conversation with an exceptional leader and advocate for the craftsmen and craftswomen she supports. Happy listening!</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode:</strong></p><p>Out of the Clouds website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds">https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds</a></p><p>The Mettā View website: <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view">https://avm.consulting/metta-view</a></p><p>Anne on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>Anne on Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi">https://www.threads.net/@annvi</a></p><p>Anne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/</a></p><p>Shoshana Stewart on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shoshana-stewart">https://www.linkedin.com/in/shoshana-stewart</a></p><p>Turquoise Mountain website: <a href="https://www.turquoisemountain.org/">https://www.turquoisemountain.org/</a></p><p>Turquoise Mountain on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/turquoisemountain/">https://www.instagram.com/turquoisemountain/</a></p><p>Shoshana’s talk at TEDx: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo2qgHUDbRo">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo2qgHUDbRo</a></p><p>Shoshana’s talk at London Business School: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ty1PzJa_Yg">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ty1PzJa_Yg</a></p><p><a href="https://www.williams.edu/">Williams College</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Pasachoff">Jay Pasachoff </a></p><p><a href="https://www.teachforamerica.org/">Teach for America</a>   </p><p><a href="https://jackson.yale.edu/person/shoshana-stewart/">Yale’s Jackson School for Global Affairs</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rory_Stewart">Rory Stewart </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minaret_of_Jam">Minaret of Jam</a></p><p><a href="https://www.the-connaught.co.uk">The Connaught Hotel </a></p><p><a href="https://www.the-connaught.co.uk/rooms-and-suites/the-princes-lodge/">The Prince’s Lodge</a></p><p><a href="https://www.the-connaught.co.uk/rooms-and-suites/the-kings-lodge/">The King’s Lodge</a></p><p><a href="https://pippasmall.com/?srsltid=AfmBOorUIlXnpVbzaYd4dAUcS8aq7zGjCipQWf7lBZ2L0vb0u5Rqp8Cb">Pippa Small</a></p><p><a href="http://www.guyoliver.co.uk/">Guy Oliver</a></p><p><a href="https://pippasmall.com/collections/turquoise-mountain-collection-afghanistan">Pippa Small’s Afghan-made collection</a></p><p><a href="https://pippasmall.com/collections/bethlehem">Pippa Small’s Olive Bethlehem collection </a></p><p><a href="https://www.aliph-foundation.org/">Aliph Foundation, the Alliance for the Protection of Cultural Heritage in Conflict </a></p><p><a href="https://cultural-protection-fund.britishcouncil.org/">the British Council's Cultural Protection Fund</a></p><p><a href="https://in.usembassy.gov/education-culture/ambassador-fund-for-cultural-preservation/">the American Embassy's  Ambassador's Fund</a></p><p><a href="https://www.goethe.de/de/index.html">the Goethe Institute</a></p><p><a href="https://www.onepeloton.com/app?">Peloton App</a></p><p><a href="https://www.onepeloton.com/instructors/hannah-corbin">Hannah Corbin</a></p><p>Taylor Swift’s<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvVBuG4IOW4"> Shake It Off</a></p><p>Philip Pullman’s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Dark_Materials">His Dark Materials</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy Langmead is one of the founders of the global men’s e-tailer, Mr Porter, part of the YOOX Net-a-Porter Group. He joined in 2010 to help launch the e-commerce business in 2011 and oversaw the design, branding, content, social, communications and events teams for a number of years.</p><p>Jeremy has also served as chief content officer at Christie’s, launched LUXX magazine for The Times in 2017, and was previously editor-in-chief of Esquire, Wallpaper and the Sunday Times Style magazines.</p><p>Today Jeremy consults for a number of fashion and grooming brands; writes for The Times Saturday magazine, a grooming column for The Times’ LUXX magazine, the Telegraph, and has published a book on male vanity called “Vain Glorious;” and is the co-host of the podcast “How Long Have We Got?” with his friend Sarah Edmundson.   </p><p>In this episode, Jeremy tells host Anne V Mühlethaler about his tumultuous childhood, filled with numerous stepfathers and a desire to create perfect worlds as a means of escape. </p><p>Jeremy recounts his early days in fashion, his time at Central St Martin’s and the career progression that led him from newspapers and magazines to Mr Porter (and the Mr Porter Post). From his move from the global e-tailer to Christie's and back, he shares the lessons he’s learned and the importance of innovation and storytelling in his professional journey. </p><p>Jeremy candidly shares with Anne his battle with prostate cancer, offering a raw and honest look at the challenges he faced. His diagnosis became a focal point for raising awareness about the importance of early detection in prostate cancer (check your PSAs, he reminds our listeners), which is what led him to write publicly about his experience for the Times and the Saturday Times Magazine. He explains how he met his friend and co-host Sarah and how the two of them decided to start a podcast that tries to “take the kerfuffle out of cancer,” in their own words. </p><p>Jeremy emphasises the complexities of living (and working) while in treatment, including how his relationship with his body has changed. He and Anne discuss how we can harness the power of storytelling to support patients in their health journeys and the crucial importance of cancer literacy.</p><p>Throughout the discussion, Jeremy talks about the intersection of vanity and authenticity, particularly as a gay man in the fashion world. He shares stories with Anne about his own experiences with male grooming (from hair transplant to eyelash dying) and explores the societal perceptions of vanity, encouraging men to embrace their desires to look and feel good without shame. </p><p>While the topic of the episode is serious at times, Jeremy shares his story with humour, tact and warmth, understanding the significant influence that the podcast has on the cancer community and those close to someone living with the illness.   </p><p>By sharing his story, Jeremy not only raises awareness for early testing in prostate cancer, but also offers inspiration to listeners to find beauty and meaning in their journeys, regardless of the obstacles they may face.</p><p>An inspiring conversation that shows how humour, resilience and storytelling go hand in hand.</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode:</strong></p><p>Out of the Clouds website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds">https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds</a></p><p>The Mettā View website: <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view">https://avm.consulting/metta-view</a></p><p>Anne on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>Anne on Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi">https://www.threads.net/@annvi</a></p><p>Anne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/</a></p><p>Jeremy on LinkedIn: <a href="https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jeremylangmead">https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jeremylangmead</a></p><p>Jeremy on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jeremylangmead/">https://www.instagram.com/jeremylangmead/</a></p><p>Jeremy and Sarah’s podcast <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/how-long-have-you-got/id1740960651">How Long Have You Got</a></p><p>How Long Have You Got on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/howlonghaveyougot2024/">https://www.instagram.com/howlonghaveyougot2024/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thetimes.com/uk/healthcare/article/jeremy-langmead-prostate-cancer-psa-test-surgery-mqpks2v7z">Jeremy’s first article for the Times</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thetimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/article/prostate-cancer-breast-cancer-jeremy-langmead-w963k0lqt">Jeremy’s follow up article about the podcast with Sarah Edmundson</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/alua_arthur_why_thinking_about_death_helps_you_live_a_better_life">Death Dula Alua Arthur’s TED talk</a></p><p><a href="https://www.macmillan.org.uk/">MacMillan Cancer Support </a></p><p><a href="https://breastcancernow.org/">Breast Cancer Support Now</a></p><p>What song best represents him : <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fv8IqyqEjU">Pet Shop Boys ‘It’s a sin’</a> and ‘<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVC-jusXGno">being boring’ </a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=4108e18b9e724c30">Here you can find the Out of the Clouds playlist</a> containing the songs chosen by the guests who answered the question: ‘What Song Best Represents You?’ </p><p>Favorite books <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Cold_Blood">Truman Capote’s In Cold Blood</a> and Bruce Chatwin's <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Am_I_Doing_Here_(book)">What Am I Doing Here?</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.guysandstthomas.nhs.uk/guys-cancer">Cancer Centre at Guy’s Hospital</a></p><p>***</p><p><strong>Are you curious about Anne's Coaching & Consulting:</strong></p><p>Feeling lost or burnt out? Discover Anne's blend of business savvy & spirituality. </p><p>Transition from career exhaustion to trusting yourself again with her unique coaching approach.</p><p>Book your free one on one exploratory coaching session <a href="https://calendly.com/avm-consulting-/exploratory-coaching-session-with-avm">here</a>. To find out more about Anne's coaching approach, her consulting background and more, <a href="https://avm.consulting/coaching">head over here</a>.</p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy Langmead is one of the founders of the global men’s e-tailer, Mr Porter, part of the YOOX Net-a-Porter Group. He joined in 2010 to help launch the e-commerce business in 2011 and oversaw the design, branding, content, social, communications and events teams for a number of years.</p><p>Jeremy has also served as chief content officer at Christie’s, launched LUXX magazine for The Times in 2017, and was previously editor-in-chief of Esquire, Wallpaper and the Sunday Times Style magazines.</p><p>Today Jeremy consults for a number of fashion and grooming brands; writes for The Times Saturday magazine, a grooming column for The Times’ LUXX magazine, the Telegraph, and has published a book on male vanity called “Vain Glorious;” and is the co-host of the podcast “How Long Have We Got?” with his friend Sarah Edmundson.   </p><p>In this episode, Jeremy tells host Anne V Mühlethaler about his tumultuous childhood, filled with numerous stepfathers and a desire to create perfect worlds as a means of escape. </p><p>Jeremy recounts his early days in fashion, his time at Central St Martin’s and the career progression that led him from newspapers and magazines to Mr Porter (and the Mr Porter Post). From his move from the global e-tailer to Christie's and back, he shares the lessons he’s learned and the importance of innovation and storytelling in his professional journey. </p><p>Jeremy candidly shares with Anne his battle with prostate cancer, offering a raw and honest look at the challenges he faced. His diagnosis became a focal point for raising awareness about the importance of early detection in prostate cancer (check your PSAs, he reminds our listeners), which is what led him to write publicly about his experience for the Times and the Saturday Times Magazine. He explains how he met his friend and co-host Sarah and how the two of them decided to start a podcast that tries to “take the kerfuffle out of cancer,” in their own words. </p><p>Jeremy emphasises the complexities of living (and working) while in treatment, including how his relationship with his body has changed. He and Anne discuss how we can harness the power of storytelling to support patients in their health journeys and the crucial importance of cancer literacy.</p><p>Throughout the discussion, Jeremy talks about the intersection of vanity and authenticity, particularly as a gay man in the fashion world. He shares stories with Anne about his own experiences with male grooming (from hair transplant to eyelash dying) and explores the societal perceptions of vanity, encouraging men to embrace their desires to look and feel good without shame. </p><p>While the topic of the episode is serious at times, Jeremy shares his story with humour, tact and warmth, understanding the significant influence that the podcast has on the cancer community and those close to someone living with the illness.   </p><p>By sharing his story, Jeremy not only raises awareness for early testing in prostate cancer, but also offers inspiration to listeners to find beauty and meaning in their journeys, regardless of the obstacles they may face.</p><p>An inspiring conversation that shows how humour, resilience and storytelling go hand in hand.</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode:</strong></p><p>Out of the Clouds website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds">https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds</a></p><p>The Mettā View website: <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view">https://avm.consulting/metta-view</a></p><p>Anne on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>Anne on Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi">https://www.threads.net/@annvi</a></p><p>Anne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/</a></p><p>Jeremy on LinkedIn: <a href="https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jeremylangmead">https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jeremylangmead</a></p><p>Jeremy on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jeremylangmead/">https://www.instagram.com/jeremylangmead/</a></p><p>Jeremy and Sarah’s podcast <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/how-long-have-you-got/id1740960651">How Long Have You Got</a></p><p>How Long Have You Got on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/howlonghaveyougot2024/">https://www.instagram.com/howlonghaveyougot2024/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thetimes.com/uk/healthcare/article/jeremy-langmead-prostate-cancer-psa-test-surgery-mqpks2v7z">Jeremy’s first article for the Times</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thetimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/article/prostate-cancer-breast-cancer-jeremy-langmead-w963k0lqt">Jeremy’s follow up article about the podcast with Sarah Edmundson</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/alua_arthur_why_thinking_about_death_helps_you_live_a_better_life">Death Dula Alua Arthur’s TED talk</a></p><p><a href="https://www.macmillan.org.uk/">MacMillan Cancer Support </a></p><p><a href="https://breastcancernow.org/">Breast Cancer Support Now</a></p><p>What song best represents him : <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fv8IqyqEjU">Pet Shop Boys ‘It’s a sin’</a> and ‘<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVC-jusXGno">being boring’ </a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=4108e18b9e724c30">Here you can find the Out of the Clouds playlist</a> containing the songs chosen by the guests who answered the question: ‘What Song Best Represents You?’ </p><p>Favorite books <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Cold_Blood">Truman Capote’s In Cold Blood</a> and Bruce Chatwin's <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Am_I_Doing_Here_(book)">What Am I Doing Here?</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.guysandstthomas.nhs.uk/guys-cancer">Cancer Centre at Guy’s Hospital</a></p><p>***</p><p><strong>Are you curious about Anne's Coaching & Consulting:</strong></p><p>Feeling lost or burnt out? Discover Anne's blend of business savvy & spirituality. </p><p>Transition from career exhaustion to trusting yourself again with her unique coaching approach.</p><p>Book your free one on one exploratory coaching session <a href="https://calendly.com/avm-consulting-/exploratory-coaching-session-with-avm">here</a>. To find out more about Anne's coaching approach, her consulting background and more, <a href="https://avm.consulting/coaching">head over here</a>.</p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>[The Shortcast] Heidi Lender on self-portrait, tending to her flame and the gift of Campo Garzon</title>
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			<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Artist and photographer Heidi Lender talks with Anne Mühlethaler about her fashion, yoga, and photography careers and her nonprofit creative institute, CAMPO, in Uruguay on the Out of the Clouds podcast. [The Shortcast of Out of the Clouds is an abridged version of Anne's interview with Heidi Lender.]]]></itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Born in New Haven, CT, Heidi Lender began her career reporting on the fashion universe for national magazines, writing features and styling photo shoots throughout her twenties. With a BA in apparel and textiles from Cornell University, she covered style and travel from New York to Paris, where she served as Fashion Director and Associate Bureau Chief of Women’s Wear Daily and W Magazine. After Paris she went to India, where she lived part-time while studying yoga for the next eight years. In 2007, she opened and taught at a yoga studio in San Francisco, and two years later she discovered her creative self in photography. Self-taught, she began by creating self-portraits and realised a meaningful way to make sense of the world and her place in it. Her images are often based in self-inquiry that stem from personal experiences, relationships and/or investigate identity.</p><p>She is represented by galleries in the U.S. and Uruguay and has exhibited internationally. Heidi is a founding member of the online collective Six Shooters, has twice been a Critical Mass finalist, received recognition from the likes of the Pollux Awards and the Julia Margaret Cameron Award. Her work has been featured in PDN and Rangefinder magazines and in online photo blogs including CNN, NPR and the New Yorker’s Photo Booth. Editorial credits include WSJ Magazine, Disegno Journal and Grey Magazine. In 2014, Kehrer Verlag published the photography book “Grassland” under Lender’s pseudonym, H. Lee. She currently resides on an 80-acre ranch in Pueblo Garzón, Uruguay, where she has founded CAMPO, a nonprofit creative institute supporting international artists (<a href="http://www.campogarzon.org/">www.campogarzon.org</a>).</p><p>In this episode and her discussion with Anne, Heidi recounts her impulsive decision to leave her burgeoning career as a fashion director in Paris at the young age of 26. </p><p>A pivotal moment in Heidi's personal story, she tells Anne, is her discovery of Garzón, Uruguay. During an impromptu trip to South America, she stumbled upon her dream home in the quaint village, which became the birthplace of CAMPO. Heidi describes to Anne how her passion for photography flourishes in this picturesque setting, where the art of self-portraiture becomes a therapeutic outlet and a means of self-expression. The episode highlights how photography, combined with mindfulness practices, has been a crucial part of Heidi's healing journey.</p><p>Heidi then goes deeper into the founding and growth of CAMPO, which has evolved into a sanctuary for artists, chefs and writers from around the world. Heidi articulates her vision of creating transformative experiences for both residents and attendees, fostering a sense of community through artistic collaboration. The festival, now a three-day event with a month-long residency program, is using the theme "unsettled" this year. The theme explores migration and movement, thus reflecting Heidi's own journey of continuous reinvention.</p><p>***</p><p><strong>Are you curious about Anne's Coaching & Consulting:</strong></p><p>Feeling lost or burnt out? Discover Anne's blend of business savvy & spirituality. </p><p>Transition from career exhaustion to trusting yourself again with her unique coaching approach.</p><p>Book your free one on one exploratory coaching session <a href="https://calendly.com/avm-consulting-/exploratory-coaching-session-with-avm">here</a>. To find out more about Anne's coaching approach, her consulting background and more, <a href="https://avm.consulting/coaching">head over here</a>.</p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Born in New Haven, CT, Heidi Lender began her career reporting on the fashion universe for national magazines, writing features and styling photo shoots throughout her twenties. With a BA in apparel and textiles from Cornell University, she covered style and travel from New York to Paris, where she served as Fashion Director and Associate Bureau Chief of Women’s Wear Daily and W Magazine. After Paris she went to India, where she lived part-time while studying yoga for the next eight years. In 2007, she opened and taught at a yoga studio in San Francisco, and two years later she discovered her creative self in photography. Self-taught, she began by creating self-portraits and realised a meaningful way to make sense of the world and her place in it. Her images are often based in self-inquiry that stem from personal experiences, relationships and/or investigate identity.</p><p>She is represented by galleries in the U.S. and Uruguay and has exhibited internationally. Heidi is a founding member of the online collective Six Shooters, has twice been a Critical Mass finalist, received recognition from the likes of the Pollux Awards and the Julia Margaret Cameron Award. Her work has been featured in PDN and Rangefinder magazines and in online photo blogs including CNN, NPR and the New Yorker’s Photo Booth. Editorial credits include WSJ Magazine, Disegno Journal and Grey Magazine. In 2014, Kehrer Verlag published the photography book “Grassland” under Lender’s pseudonym, H. Lee. She currently resides on an 80-acre ranch in Pueblo Garzón, Uruguay, where she has founded CAMPO, a nonprofit creative institute supporting international artists (<a href="http://www.campogarzon.org/">www.campogarzon.org</a>).</p><p>In this episode and her discussion with Anne, Heidi recounts her impulsive decision to leave her burgeoning career as a fashion director in Paris at the young age of 26. </p><p>A pivotal moment in Heidi's personal story, she tells Anne, is her discovery of Garzón, Uruguay. During an impromptu trip to South America, she stumbled upon her dream home in the quaint village, which became the birthplace of CAMPO. Heidi describes to Anne how her passion for photography flourishes in this picturesque setting, where the art of self-portraiture becomes a therapeutic outlet and a means of self-expression. The episode highlights how photography, combined with mindfulness practices, has been a crucial part of Heidi's healing journey.</p><p>Heidi then goes deeper into the founding and growth of CAMPO, which has evolved into a sanctuary for artists, chefs and writers from around the world. Heidi articulates her vision of creating transformative experiences for both residents and attendees, fostering a sense of community through artistic collaboration. The festival, now a three-day event with a month-long residency program, is using the theme "unsettled" this year. The theme explores migration and movement, thus reflecting Heidi's own journey of continuous reinvention.</p><p>***</p><p><strong>Are you curious about Anne's Coaching & Consulting:</strong></p><p>Feeling lost or burnt out? Discover Anne's blend of business savvy & spirituality. </p><p>Transition from career exhaustion to trusting yourself again with her unique coaching approach.</p><p>Book your free one on one exploratory coaching session <a href="https://calendly.com/avm-consulting-/exploratory-coaching-session-with-avm">here</a>. To find out more about Anne's coaching approach, her consulting background and more, <a href="https://avm.consulting/coaching">head over here</a>.</p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Born in New Haven, CT, Heidi Lender began her career reporting on the fashion universe for national magazines, writing features and styling photo shoots throughout her twenties. With a BA in apparel and textiles from Cornell University, she covered style and travel from New York to Paris, where she served as Fashion Director and Associate Bureau Chief of Women’s Wear Daily and W Magazine. After Paris she went to India, where she lived part-time while studying yoga for the next eight years. In 2007, she opened and taught at a yoga studio in San Francisco, and two years later she discovered her creative self in photography. Self-taught, she began by creating self-portraits and realised a meaningful way to make sense of the world and her place in it. Her images are often based in self-inquiry that stem from personal experiences, relationships and/or investigate identity.</p><p>She is represented by galleries in the U.S. and Uruguay and has exhibited internationally. Heidi is a founding member of the online collective Six Shooters, has twice been a Critical Mass finalist, received recognition from the likes of the Pollux Awards and the Julia Margaret Cameron Award. Her work has been featured in PDN and Rangefinder magazines and in online photo blogs including CNN, NPR and the New Yorker’s Photo Booth. Editorial credits include WSJ Magazine, Disegno Journal and Grey Magazine. In 2014, Kehrer Verlag published the photography book “Grassland” under Lender’s pseudonym, H. Lee. She currently resides on an 80-acre ranch in Pueblo Garzón, Uruguay, where she has founded CAMPO, a nonprofit creative institute supporting international artists (<a href="http://www.campogarzon.org/">www.campogarzon.org</a>).</p><p>In this episode and her discussion with Anne, Heidi recounts her impulsive decision to leave her burgeoning career as a fashion director in Paris at the young age of 26. Her tale is marked by personal challenges, including a divorce and the emotional roller coaster of IVF, which she bravely shares with Anne. Heidi's journey of self-discovery and resilience is punctuated by her immersion into the world of yoga, which led to her being trained under the renowned K. Pattabhi Jois, finding solace and a renewed sense of purpose.</p><p>Prompted by Heidi expressing the realisations she had while shopping in Goa, Anne shares a similar experience from her recent trip to Greece, emphasising the significance of unique, locally-crafted fashion. Anne also speaks candidly about her battle with rheumatoid arthritis and how yoga has been instrumental in her physical and emotional well-being, noting that movement does indeed help with pain, despite seeming counterintuitive. The episode takes a reflective turn as Heidi shares the trials and tribulations she faced during her attempts at conceiving through IVF, eventually leading her to embrace a different life path with acceptance and grace.</p><p>A pivotal moment in Heidi's personal story, she tells Anne, is her discovery of Garzón, Uruguay. During an impromptu trip to South America, she stumbled upon her dream home in the quaint village, which became the birthplace of CAMPO. Heidi describes to Anne how her passion for photography flourishes in this picturesque setting, where the art of self-portraiture becomes a therapeutic outlet and a means of self-expression. The episode highlights how photography, combined with mindfulness practices, has been a crucial part of Heidi's healing journey.</p><p>Heidi then goes deeper into the founding and growth of CAMPO, which has evolved into a sanctuary for artists, chefs and writers from around the world. Heidi articulates her vision of creating transformative experiences for both residents and attendees, fostering a sense of community through artistic collaboration. The festival, now a three-day event with a month-long residency program, is using the theme "unsettled" this year. The theme explores migration and movement, thus reflecting Heidi's own journey of continuous reinvention.</p><p>The episode concludes with a heartfelt discussion between Heidi and Anne on the value of solitude, introspection and the interconnectedness of creative pursuits and personal growth. Heidi shares important moments of reconnection with her past and influential figures, weaving a narrative of the importance of serendipity and openness to new perspectives. Through her story, Heidi exemplifies resilience, creativity and the transformative power of embracing life's unpredictable turns.<br /><br />An intimate and heartwarming interview with a talented artist. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>Out of the Clouds website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds">https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds</a></p><p>The Mettā View website: <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view">https://avm.consulting/metta-view</a></p><p>Anne on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>Anne on Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi">https://www.threads.net/@annvi</a></p><p>Anne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/</a></p><p>Heidi’s website: <a href="https://heidilender.com/">https://heidilender.com/</a></p><p>Camp Garzon: <a href="https://campogarzon.org/">https://campogarzon.org/</a></p><p>Heidi on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/heidilender">https://www.instagram.com/heidilender</a></p><p>Heidi on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-lender/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-lender/</a></p><p>Argentinian chef Francis Mallmann: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Mallmann">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Mallmann</a></p><p>Restaurant Garzon: <a href="https://www.restaurantegarzon.com/">https://www.restaurantegarzon.com/</a></p><p>W magazine: <a href="https://www.wmagazine.com/">https://www.wmagazine.com/</a></p><p>Women's wear daily: <a href="https://wwd.com/">https://wwd.com/</a></p><p>Us Magazine: <a href="https://www.usmagazine.com/">https://www.usmagazine.com/</a></p><p>Ashtanga Yoga: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtanga_vinyasa_yoga">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtanga_vinyasa_yoga</a></p><p>John Berlinsky: <a href="https://www.mettayogastudio.com/john-berlinsky">https://www.mettayogastudio.com/john-berlinsky</a></p><p>K. Patthabi Jois: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K._Pattabhi_Jois">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K._Pattabhi_Jois</a></p><p>Punta del Este: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punta_del_Este">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punta_del_Este</a></p><p>The beheaded goddess book: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beheaded-Goddess-Daughters-Narcissistic-Fathers-ebook/dp/B007Y9L8Z6">https://www.amazon.com/Beheaded-Goddess-Daughters-Narcissistic-Fathers-ebook/dp/B007Y9L8Z6</a></p><p>Rafael Vignoli, the architect: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Vi%C3%B1oly">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Vi%C3%B1oly</a></p><p>Desiree, you gotta be: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/6CU0zWIWVTEnmWpSjVHM93?si=66f28c3e590a4eb2">https://open.spotify.com/track/6CU0zWIWVTEnmWpSjVHM93?si=66f28c3e590a4eb2</a></p><p>Ain’t no mountain, Diana Ross version: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=a5cc9dfe19634c0f">https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=a5cc9dfe19634c0f</a></p><p>James McBride: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_McBride_(writer)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_McBride_(writer)</a></p><p>Tommy Orange: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Orange">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Orange</a></p><p>CAF 8 Virtual Film Forum - Aquí está el enlace actualizado para Film Forum: <a href="https://us06web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_1utIIAFPToi3gKu-CVvlag" target="_blank">https://us06web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_1utIIAFPToi3gKu-CVvlag</a></p><p>Link to donate and support Campo: <a href="https://campogarzon.org/support/">https://campogarzon.org/support/</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Born in New Haven, CT, Heidi Lender began her career reporting on the fashion universe for national magazines, writing features and styling photo shoots throughout her twenties. With a BA in apparel and textiles from Cornell University, she covered style and travel from New York to Paris, where she served as Fashion Director and Associate Bureau Chief of Women’s Wear Daily and W Magazine. After Paris she went to India, where she lived part-time while studying yoga for the next eight years. In 2007, she opened and taught at a yoga studio in San Francisco, and two years later she discovered her creative self in photography. Self-taught, she began by creating self-portraits and realised a meaningful way to make sense of the world and her place in it. Her images are often based in self-inquiry that stem from personal experiences, relationships and/or investigate identity.</p><p>She is represented by galleries in the U.S. and Uruguay and has exhibited internationally. Heidi is a founding member of the online collective Six Shooters, has twice been a Critical Mass finalist, received recognition from the likes of the Pollux Awards and the Julia Margaret Cameron Award. Her work has been featured in PDN and Rangefinder magazines and in online photo blogs including CNN, NPR and the New Yorker’s Photo Booth. Editorial credits include WSJ Magazine, Disegno Journal and Grey Magazine. In 2014, Kehrer Verlag published the photography book “Grassland” under Lender’s pseudonym, H. Lee. She currently resides on an 80-acre ranch in Pueblo Garzón, Uruguay, where she has founded CAMPO, a nonprofit creative institute supporting international artists (<a href="http://www.campogarzon.org/">www.campogarzon.org</a>).</p><p>In this episode and her discussion with Anne, Heidi recounts her impulsive decision to leave her burgeoning career as a fashion director in Paris at the young age of 26. Her tale is marked by personal challenges, including a divorce and the emotional roller coaster of IVF, which she bravely shares with Anne. Heidi's journey of self-discovery and resilience is punctuated by her immersion into the world of yoga, which led to her being trained under the renowned K. Pattabhi Jois, finding solace and a renewed sense of purpose.</p><p>Prompted by Heidi expressing the realisations she had while shopping in Goa, Anne shares a similar experience from her recent trip to Greece, emphasising the significance of unique, locally-crafted fashion. Anne also speaks candidly about her battle with rheumatoid arthritis and how yoga has been instrumental in her physical and emotional well-being, noting that movement does indeed help with pain, despite seeming counterintuitive. The episode takes a reflective turn as Heidi shares the trials and tribulations she faced during her attempts at conceiving through IVF, eventually leading her to embrace a different life path with acceptance and grace.</p><p>A pivotal moment in Heidi's personal story, she tells Anne, is her discovery of Garzón, Uruguay. During an impromptu trip to South America, she stumbled upon her dream home in the quaint village, which became the birthplace of CAMPO. Heidi describes to Anne how her passion for photography flourishes in this picturesque setting, where the art of self-portraiture becomes a therapeutic outlet and a means of self-expression. The episode highlights how photography, combined with mindfulness practices, has been a crucial part of Heidi's healing journey.</p><p>Heidi then goes deeper into the founding and growth of CAMPO, which has evolved into a sanctuary for artists, chefs and writers from around the world. Heidi articulates her vision of creating transformative experiences for both residents and attendees, fostering a sense of community through artistic collaboration. The festival, now a three-day event with a month-long residency program, is using the theme "unsettled" this year. The theme explores migration and movement, thus reflecting Heidi's own journey of continuous reinvention.</p><p>The episode concludes with a heartfelt discussion between Heidi and Anne on the value of solitude, introspection and the interconnectedness of creative pursuits and personal growth. Heidi shares important moments of reconnection with her past and influential figures, weaving a narrative of the importance of serendipity and openness to new perspectives. Through her story, Heidi exemplifies resilience, creativity and the transformative power of embracing life's unpredictable turns.<br /><br />An intimate and heartwarming interview with a talented artist. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>Out of the Clouds website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds">https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds</a></p><p>The Mettā View website: <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view">https://avm.consulting/metta-view</a></p><p>Anne on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>Anne on Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi">https://www.threads.net/@annvi</a></p><p>Anne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/</a></p><p>Heidi’s website: <a href="https://heidilender.com/">https://heidilender.com/</a></p><p>Camp Garzon: <a href="https://campogarzon.org/">https://campogarzon.org/</a></p><p>Heidi on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/heidilender">https://www.instagram.com/heidilender</a></p><p>Heidi on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-lender/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-lender/</a></p><p>Argentinian chef Francis Mallmann: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Mallmann">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Mallmann</a></p><p>Restaurant Garzon: <a href="https://www.restaurantegarzon.com/">https://www.restaurantegarzon.com/</a></p><p>W magazine: <a href="https://www.wmagazine.com/">https://www.wmagazine.com/</a></p><p>Women's wear daily: <a href="https://wwd.com/">https://wwd.com/</a></p><p>Us Magazine: <a href="https://www.usmagazine.com/">https://www.usmagazine.com/</a></p><p>Ashtanga Yoga: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtanga_vinyasa_yoga">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtanga_vinyasa_yoga</a></p><p>John Berlinsky: <a href="https://www.mettayogastudio.com/john-berlinsky">https://www.mettayogastudio.com/john-berlinsky</a></p><p>K. 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			<title>[The Shortcast] Debjani Biswas on being miserably successful no more, data-driven inclusive leadership, and using a coaching approach</title>
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			<itunes:subtitle>The Shortcast of Out of the Clouds is an abridged version of the earlier interview with Debjani Biswas, a chemical engineer turned executive coach, bestselling author and speaker.</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Anne Muhlethaler hosts a compelling conversation with Debjani Biswas, a chemical engineer turned executive coach and best-selling author. She explains how despite the societal expectations of the time, Debjani's father encouraged her to pursue a path in engineering, a field dominated by men, thus setting the stage for her future endeavors in breaking gender barriers.</p><p> </p><p>As the conversation progresses, Debjani reflects on the challenges she faced in the corporate world, particularly as an Indian woman in engineering, and how these experiences shaped her transition to becoming an advocate for workplace inclusivity. We hear her concept of being "miserably successful” (which is also the title of one of her books), where she discusses the stress and dissatisfaction that can accompany traditional measures of success. Debjani's story emphasizes the importance of finding joy and purpose in one's career.</p><p>The episode also explores Debjani's unique approach to executive coaching, which empowers leaders and redefines success beyond conventional metrics. She discusses the importance of executive presence, active listening, and the core competencies outlined by the International Coach Federation (ICF) in fostering a supportive environment for clients. Her journey into coaching, prompted by a perceptive manager, underscores the value of recognising and nurturing one's innate abilities.</p><p>Towards the end of the episode, Debjani emphasises the power of storytelling and imagery in challenging societal biases and fostering inclusivity. </p><p>A profound conversation with a trailblazing change maker. Happy listening!</p><p>You can find Debjani on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/debjanibiswas/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/debjanibiswas/</a></p><p>Her consultancy: <a href="http://www.coachieve.us/">http://www.coachieve.us/</a></p><p>Debjani’s books are: </p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Unleash-Power-Diversity-Cultural-Competence/dp/1481760750/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=4HezB&content-id=amzn1.sym.f76d456a-cb0d-44de-b7b0-670c26ce80ba&pf_rd_p=f76d456a-cb0d-44de-b7b0-670c26ce80ba&pf_rd_r=130-2548953-2161858&pd_rd_wg=YVcgD&pd_rd_r=9c374c9c-1826-4810-bb98-0305d9ce4616&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk">Unleash the Power of Diversity</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Miserably-Successful-No-More-Stress/dp/194662912X">Miserably Successful No More</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/UsToo-Bridging-Global-Gender-Gap/dp/1946629278/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=4HezB&content-id=amzn1.sym.f76d456a-cb0d-44de-b7b0-670c26ce80ba&pf_rd_p=f76d456a-cb0d-44de-b7b0-670c26ce80ba&pf_rd_r=130-2548953-2161858&pd_rd_wg=YVcgD&pd_rd_r=9c374c9c-1826-4810-bb98-0305d9ce4616&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk">#Us Too, Bridging the Global Gender Gap</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds">https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds</a></p><p>The Mettā View website: <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view">https://avm.consulting/metta-view</a></p><p>Anne on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>Anne on Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi">https://www.threads.net/@annvi</a></p><p>Anne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Anne Muhlethaler hosts a compelling conversation with Debjani Biswas, a chemical engineer turned executive coach and best-selling author. She explains how despite the societal expectations of the time, Debjani's father encouraged her to pursue a path in engineering, a field dominated by men, thus setting the stage for her future endeavors in breaking gender barriers.</p><p> </p><p>As the conversation progresses, Debjani reflects on the challenges she faced in the corporate world, particularly as an Indian woman in engineering, and how these experiences shaped her transition to becoming an advocate for workplace inclusivity. We hear her concept of being "miserably successful” (which is also the title of one of her books), where she discusses the stress and dissatisfaction that can accompany traditional measures of success. Debjani's story emphasizes the importance of finding joy and purpose in one's career.</p><p>The episode also explores Debjani's unique approach to executive coaching, which empowers leaders and redefines success beyond conventional metrics. She discusses the importance of executive presence, active listening, and the core competencies outlined by the International Coach Federation (ICF) in fostering a supportive environment for clients. Her journey into coaching, prompted by a perceptive manager, underscores the value of recognising and nurturing one's innate abilities.</p><p>Towards the end of the episode, Debjani emphasises the power of storytelling and imagery in challenging societal biases and fostering inclusivity. </p><p>A profound conversation with a trailblazing change maker. Happy listening!</p><p>You can find Debjani on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/debjanibiswas/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/debjanibiswas/</a></p><p>Her consultancy: <a href="http://www.coachieve.us/">http://www.coachieve.us/</a></p><p>Debjani’s books are: </p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Unleash-Power-Diversity-Cultural-Competence/dp/1481760750/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=4HezB&content-id=amzn1.sym.f76d456a-cb0d-44de-b7b0-670c26ce80ba&pf_rd_p=f76d456a-cb0d-44de-b7b0-670c26ce80ba&pf_rd_r=130-2548953-2161858&pd_rd_wg=YVcgD&pd_rd_r=9c374c9c-1826-4810-bb98-0305d9ce4616&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk">Unleash the Power of Diversity</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Miserably-Successful-No-More-Stress/dp/194662912X">Miserably Successful No More</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/UsToo-Bridging-Global-Gender-Gap/dp/1946629278/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=4HezB&content-id=amzn1.sym.f76d456a-cb0d-44de-b7b0-670c26ce80ba&pf_rd_p=f76d456a-cb0d-44de-b7b0-670c26ce80ba&pf_rd_r=130-2548953-2161858&pd_rd_wg=YVcgD&pd_rd_r=9c374c9c-1826-4810-bb98-0305d9ce4616&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk">#Us Too, Bridging the Global Gender Gap</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds">https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds</a></p><p>The Mettā View website: <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view">https://avm.consulting/metta-view</a></p><p>Anne on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>Anne on Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi">https://www.threads.net/@annvi</a></p><p>Anne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Today, Anne has a compelling conversation with Debjani Biswas, a chemical engineer turned executive coach and best-selling author. The episode begins with Debjani recounting her privileged upbringing in India and the profound influence her supportive family, especially her father, had on her academic and professional journey. Despite the societal expectations of the time, Debjani's father encouraged her to pursue a path in engineering, a field dominated by men, thus setting the stage for her future endeavors in breaking gender barriers.</p><p>As the conversation progresses, Debjani delves into her experiences of cultural adjustment and bias after moving to the United States. She reflects on the challenges she faced in the corporate world, particularly as an Indian woman in engineering, and how these experiences shaped her transition to becoming an advocate for workplace inclusivity. We hear her concept of being "miserably successful” (which is also the title of one of her books), where she discusses the stress and dissatisfaction that can accompany traditional measures of success. Debjani's story emphasizes the importance of finding joy and purpose in one's career.</p><p>Debjani shares anecdotes about the support she received from her family, particularly her son, which played a crucial role in her decision to write books and give keynote speeches on inclusivity. She also credits her grandfather, a renowned scientist, for nurturing her intellectual curiosity, as well as her sisters for taking diverse career paths, demonstrating the varying influences within her family.</p><p>The episode also explores Debjani's unique approach to executive coaching, which empowers leaders and redefines success beyond conventional metrics. She discusses the importance of executive presence, active listening, and the core competencies outlined by the International Coach Federation (ICF) in fostering a supportive environment for clients. Her journey into coaching, prompted by a perceptive manager, underscores the value of recognising and nurturing one's innate abilities.</p><p>Towards the end of the episode, Debjani emphasises the power of storytelling and imagery in challenging societal biases and fostering inclusivity. She shares her personal practices for mindfulness and intentional living, including yoga, meditation, and morning journaling, which help her stay grounded amidst challenges. The conversation wraps up with reflections on the importance of connection and joy in both personal and professional life, leaving listeners inspired by Debjani's journey of transformation and her unwavering commitment to making a positive impact in the world.</p><p>A profound conversation with a trailblazing change maker. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>You can find Debjani on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/debjanibiswas/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/debjanibiswas/</a></p><p>Her consultancy: <a href="http://www.coachieve.us/">http://www.coachieve.us/</a></p><p> </p><p>Debjani’s books are: </p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Unleash-Power-Diversity-Cultural-Competence/dp/1481760750/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=4HezB&content-id=amzn1.sym.f76d456a-cb0d-44de-b7b0-670c26ce80ba&pf_rd_p=f76d456a-cb0d-44de-b7b0-670c26ce80ba&pf_rd_r=130-2548953-2161858&pd_rd_wg=YVcgD&pd_rd_r=9c374c9c-1826-4810-bb98-0305d9ce4616&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk">Unleash the Power of Diversity</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Miserably-Successful-No-More-Stress/dp/194662912X">Miserably Successful No More</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/UsToo-Bridging-Global-Gender-Gap/dp/1946629278/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=4HezB&content-id=amzn1.sym.f76d456a-cb0d-44de-b7b0-670c26ce80ba&pf_rd_p=f76d456a-cb0d-44de-b7b0-670c26ce80ba&pf_rd_r=130-2548953-2161858&pd_rd_wg=YVcgD&pd_rd_r=9c374c9c-1826-4810-bb98-0305d9ce4616&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk">#Us Too, Bridging the Global Gender Gap</a></p><p>The IIT - <a href="https://home.iitd.ac.in/">https://home.iitd.ac.in/</a></p><p>The IIM - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institutes_of_Management">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institutes_of_Management</a></p><p>The story about Archbishop Tutu on a flight to Nigeria: <a href="https://blogs.ubc.ca/tiffanyt/2016/04/18/my-favourite-archbishop-desmond-tutu-story/">https://blogs.ubc.ca/tiffanyt/2016/04/18/my-favourite-archbishop-desmond-tutu-story/</a></p><p>told here as well <a href="https://www.news.uct.ac.za/in-memoriam/desmond-tutu/-article/2006-10-02-tutu-stakes-new-claim-for-steve-bikos-legacy">https://www.news.uct.ac.za/in-memoriam/desmond-tutu/-article/2006-10-02-tutu-stakes-new-claim-for-steve-bikos-legacy</a></p><p>Yoga kryias <a href="https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/5022/kriya">https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/5022/kriya</a></p><p><a href="https://juliacameronlive.com/">The Artist Way</a>, by Julia Cameron </p><p><a href="https://juliacameronlive.com/basic-tools/morning-pages/">Morning pages </a></p><p>The Shambhavi  Mahamudra <a href="https://isha.sadhguru.org/en/wisdom/article/what-is-shambhavi-mahamudra">https://isha.sadhguru.org/en/wisdom/article/what-is-shambhavi-mahamudra</a></p><p>IEEE conference <a href="https://www.ieee.org/conferences/index.html">https://www.ieee.org/conferences/index.html</a></p><p>Debjani’s choice for what song best represents her is <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/7DSAEUvxU8FajXtRloy8M0?si=1fdc9a8788c94a60">Flowers by Miley Cyrus</a>. </p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=4108e18b9e724c30">Here you can find the Out of the Clouds playlist</a> containing the songs chosen by the guests who answered the question: ‘What Song Best Represents You?’</p><p>Debjani’s current choice for favorite book is <a href="https://brenebrown.com/book/atlas-of-the-heart/">Atlas of the Heart by Brené Brown</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenzing_Norgay">Tenzing Norgay</a>, the second man who climbed Mount Everest</p><p><a href="https://hmidarjeeling.com/">The Hymalayan Mountain Institute </a></p><p> </p><p>Out of the Clouds website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p> </p><p>Out of the Clouds on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds">https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds</a></p><p> </p><p>The Mettā View website: <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view">https://avm.consulting/metta-view</a></p><p> </p><p>Anne on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p> </p><p>Anne on Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi">https://www.threads.net/@annvi</a></p><p> </p><p>Anne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Today, Anne has a compelling conversation with Debjani Biswas, a chemical engineer turned executive coach and best-selling author. The episode begins with Debjani recounting her privileged upbringing in India and the profound influence her supportive family, especially her father, had on her academic and professional journey. Despite the societal expectations of the time, Debjani's father encouraged her to pursue a path in engineering, a field dominated by men, thus setting the stage for her future endeavors in breaking gender barriers.</p><p>As the conversation progresses, Debjani delves into her experiences of cultural adjustment and bias after moving to the United States. She reflects on the challenges she faced in the corporate world, particularly as an Indian woman in engineering, and how these experiences shaped her transition to becoming an advocate for workplace inclusivity. We hear her concept of being "miserably successful” (which is also the title of one of her books), where she discusses the stress and dissatisfaction that can accompany traditional measures of success. Debjani's story emphasizes the importance of finding joy and purpose in one's career.</p><p>Debjani shares anecdotes about the support she received from her family, particularly her son, which played a crucial role in her decision to write books and give keynote speeches on inclusivity. She also credits her grandfather, a renowned scientist, for nurturing her intellectual curiosity, as well as her sisters for taking diverse career paths, demonstrating the varying influences within her family.</p><p>The episode also explores Debjani's unique approach to executive coaching, which empowers leaders and redefines success beyond conventional metrics. She discusses the importance of executive presence, active listening, and the core competencies outlined by the International Coach Federation (ICF) in fostering a supportive environment for clients. Her journey into coaching, prompted by a perceptive manager, underscores the value of recognising and nurturing one's innate abilities.</p><p>Towards the end of the episode, Debjani emphasises the power of storytelling and imagery in challenging societal biases and fostering inclusivity. She shares her personal practices for mindfulness and intentional living, including yoga, meditation, and morning journaling, which help her stay grounded amidst challenges. The conversation wraps up with reflections on the importance of connection and joy in both personal and professional life, leaving listeners inspired by Debjani's journey of transformation and her unwavering commitment to making a positive impact in the world.</p><p>A profound conversation with a trailblazing change maker. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>You can find Debjani on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/debjanibiswas/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/debjanibiswas/</a></p><p>Her consultancy: <a href="http://www.coachieve.us/">http://www.coachieve.us/</a></p><p> </p><p>Debjani’s books are: </p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Unleash-Power-Diversity-Cultural-Competence/dp/1481760750/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=4HezB&content-id=amzn1.sym.f76d456a-cb0d-44de-b7b0-670c26ce80ba&pf_rd_p=f76d456a-cb0d-44de-b7b0-670c26ce80ba&pf_rd_r=130-2548953-2161858&pd_rd_wg=YVcgD&pd_rd_r=9c374c9c-1826-4810-bb98-0305d9ce4616&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk">Unleash the Power of Diversity</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Miserably-Successful-No-More-Stress/dp/194662912X">Miserably Successful No More</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/UsToo-Bridging-Global-Gender-Gap/dp/1946629278/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=4HezB&content-id=amzn1.sym.f76d456a-cb0d-44de-b7b0-670c26ce80ba&pf_rd_p=f76d456a-cb0d-44de-b7b0-670c26ce80ba&pf_rd_r=130-2548953-2161858&pd_rd_wg=YVcgD&pd_rd_r=9c374c9c-1826-4810-bb98-0305d9ce4616&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk">#Us Too, Bridging the Global Gender Gap</a></p><p>The IIT - <a href="https://home.iitd.ac.in/">https://home.iitd.ac.in/</a></p><p>The IIM - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institutes_of_Management">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institutes_of_Management</a></p><p>The story about Archbishop Tutu on a flight to Nigeria: <a href="https://blogs.ubc.ca/tiffanyt/2016/04/18/my-favourite-archbishop-desmond-tutu-story/">https://blogs.ubc.ca/tiffanyt/2016/04/18/my-favourite-archbishop-desmond-tutu-story/</a></p><p>told here as well <a href="https://www.news.uct.ac.za/in-memoriam/desmond-tutu/-article/2006-10-02-tutu-stakes-new-claim-for-steve-bikos-legacy">https://www.news.uct.ac.za/in-memoriam/desmond-tutu/-article/2006-10-02-tutu-stakes-new-claim-for-steve-bikos-legacy</a></p><p>Yoga kryias <a href="https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/5022/kriya">https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/5022/kriya</a></p><p><a href="https://juliacameronlive.com/">The Artist Way</a>, by Julia Cameron </p><p><a href="https://juliacameronlive.com/basic-tools/morning-pages/">Morning pages </a></p><p>The Shambhavi  Mahamudra <a href="https://isha.sadhguru.org/en/wisdom/article/what-is-shambhavi-mahamudra">https://isha.sadhguru.org/en/wisdom/article/what-is-shambhavi-mahamudra</a></p><p>IEEE conference <a href="https://www.ieee.org/conferences/index.html">https://www.ieee.org/conferences/index.html</a></p><p>Debjani’s choice for what song best represents her is <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/7DSAEUvxU8FajXtRloy8M0?si=1fdc9a8788c94a60">Flowers by Miley Cyrus</a>. </p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=4108e18b9e724c30">Here you can find the Out of the Clouds playlist</a> containing the songs chosen by the guests who answered the question: ‘What Song Best Represents You?’</p><p>Debjani’s current choice for favorite book is <a href="https://brenebrown.com/book/atlas-of-the-heart/">Atlas of the Heart by Brené Brown</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenzing_Norgay">Tenzing Norgay</a>, the second man who climbed Mount Everest</p><p><a href="https://hmidarjeeling.com/">The Hymalayan Mountain Institute </a></p><p> </p><p>Out of the Clouds website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p> </p><p>Out of the Clouds on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds">https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds</a></p><p> </p><p>The Mettā View website: <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view">https://avm.consulting/metta-view</a></p><p> </p><p>Anne on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p> </p><p>Anne on Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi">https://www.threads.net/@annvi</a></p><p> </p><p>Anne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Ana Maria Sierra on élan vital, single-origin eco-gold and social-impact love</title>
			<itunes:title>Ana Maria Sierra on élan vital, single-origin eco-gold and social-impact love</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Anne V Muhlethaler interviews Ana Maria Sierra, a market development and strategic communication consultant living in Colombia. She is a Fulbright Scholar with a master’s degree in mass media from the New School for Social Research in New York. Following a 15-year corporate career in business management and leading senior management teams in Colombian and multinational banking and service companies, Ana founded Sierra Restrepo Consultores in 2009, a consultancy specialising in marketing and strategic communication. From an early education in the arts, then media before going into banking, Ana Maria has built a robust career and has worked with clients across Latin America in the coffee sector.</p><p>In their conversation, Ana tells Anne about her journey with MODA ELAN, the conscious and ethical jewellery platform she founded that aims to be the bridge that brings together the best ethical jewellery designers from around the world with the jewellery masters and gold panners from the biogeographical Chocó territories in the Pacific Coasts of Colombia. Ana shares how she became motivated by her love for handcrafted jewellery after taking a silversmithing course in Bogota, which led her to transition from a successful career in promoting coffee consumption in Colombia to pursuing her passion for silversmithing and artisanal metallurgy and eventually founding Moda Elan. Through this B2B platform she hopes to support local artisans and promote ethical jewellery practices.</p><p>Leveraging her consultancy firm, Ana explains how she began to sell her jewellery as pop-up shops and fairs, gradually incorporating contemporary urban jewellers into her portfolio. Her deep involvement with the Alliance for Responsible Mining opened her eyes to the importance of responsibly sourced minerals and single-origin gold, which became a cornerstone of her ethical jewellery brand. She became passionate about the powerful pre-Hispanic metallurgy legacy she discovered, which led her to choose to promote work rooted in the history of the Americas, with its unique aesthetics, materials — and, through the jewellery, bring those values to the world. Ana’s passion is evident as she tells Anne how she is committed to work with the Afro goldsmith communities of the Chocó Biogeographical Region while adding sustainability to their cultural heritage around goldsmithing.</p><p>Ana's work is characterised by a strong commitment to social impact, particularly in supporting vulnerable communities like women miners and the Afro-Colombian artisan jewellers of this region. She talks about the impact of unlicensed mining and emphasises the need for transparency in the jewellery supply chain, advocating for ethical sourcing and fair trade practices.</p><p>Looking ahead, Ana offers her vision for Moda Elan, which would be to expand its reach and bring more awareness and support for ethical jewellery, reaching the wider ethical luxury market and leveraging the stories and values behind each piece to spark meaningful conversations with the view to drive sustainable change. She acknowledges the challenges she faces, such as managing rural associations and competing with large gold traders, but remains determined to overcome them. To illustrate that point, Ana jokes that this project is like “a jumbo jet with a blender motor.”</p><p>Ana's journey is a testament to the power of shared values and the potential for creating positive impact through dedication and collaboration. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>Ana on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ana-maria-sierra-restrepo/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ana-maria-sierra-restrepo/</a></p><p>You can also reach out to her directly <a href="mailto:elan.moda.vital@gmail.com">elan.moda.vital@gmail.com</a></p><p>Information on the <a href="https://www.delvedatabase.org/news/culture-of-gold-and-jewelry-in-choc%C3%B3-colombia">Afro jewellers of the Choco region </a></p><p>Discover the Choco region of Colombia - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choc%C3%B3_Department">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choc%C3%B3_Department</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/juana-m%C3%A9ndez-uribe-04521b42/">Juana Mendez</a></p><p>The <a href="https://www.academia.edu/41625706/Cat%C3%A1logo_de_la_joyer%C3%ADa_tradicional_afrochocoana">Afro-Chocoan Jewelry Catalog</a></p><p>The article from the Independent that started jeweller Pippa Small  - <a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/the-real-price-of-gold-5348614.html">https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/the-real-price-of-gold-5348614.html</a></p><p>Dirty gold book & documentary -<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr_S81JyAxk">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr_S81JyAxk</a></p><p>Alliance for responsible mining - <a href="https://www.responsiblemines.org/en/">https://www.responsiblemines.org/en/</a></p><p>Oro Verde, the project that paved the way for the Alliance for Responsible Mining - <a href="https://www.responsiblemines.org/en/2014/05/update-from-oro-verde-and-amichoco/">https://www.responsiblemines.org/en/2014/05/update-from-oro-verde-and-amichoco/</a></p><p> </p><p>The Arts & Crafts Santo Domingo School or Escuela de Artes y Oficios Santo Domingo where Ana studied silversmithing. <a href="https://www.eaosd.org">https://www.eaosd.org</a></p><p> </p><p>The book The Cave (la Caverna) by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Saramago">José Saramago</a> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cave_(novel)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cave_(novel)</a></p><p> </p><p>Algor meaning - <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/algor">https://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/algor</a></p><p> </p><p>Elan Vital - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89lan_vital">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89lan_vital</a></p><p> </p><p>Philosopher Henri Bergson - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Bergson">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Bergson</a></p><p> </p><p>Out of the Clouds website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p> </p><p>Out of the Clouds on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds">https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds</a></p><p> </p><p>The Mettā View website: <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view">https://avm.consulting/metta-view</a></p><p> </p><p>Anne on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p> </p><p>Anne on Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi">https://www.threads.net/@annvi</a></p><p> </p><p>Anne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Anne V Muhlethaler interviews Ana Maria Sierra, a market development and strategic communication consultant living in Colombia. She is a Fulbright Scholar with a master’s degree in mass media from the New School for Social Research in New York. Following a 15-year corporate career in business management and leading senior management teams in Colombian and multinational banking and service companies, Ana founded Sierra Restrepo Consultores in 2009, a consultancy specialising in marketing and strategic communication. From an early education in the arts, then media before going into banking, Ana Maria has built a robust career and has worked with clients across Latin America in the coffee sector.</p><p>In their conversation, Ana tells Anne about her journey with MODA ELAN, the conscious and ethical jewellery platform she founded that aims to be the bridge that brings together the best ethical jewellery designers from around the world with the jewellery masters and gold panners from the biogeographical Chocó territories in the Pacific Coasts of Colombia. Ana shares how she became motivated by her love for handcrafted jewellery after taking a silversmithing course in Bogota, which led her to transition from a successful career in promoting coffee consumption in Colombia to pursuing her passion for silversmithing and artisanal metallurgy and eventually founding Moda Elan. Through this B2B platform she hopes to support local artisans and promote ethical jewellery practices.</p><p>Leveraging her consultancy firm, Ana explains how she began to sell her jewellery as pop-up shops and fairs, gradually incorporating contemporary urban jewellers into her portfolio. Her deep involvement with the Alliance for Responsible Mining opened her eyes to the importance of responsibly sourced minerals and single-origin gold, which became a cornerstone of her ethical jewellery brand. She became passionate about the powerful pre-Hispanic metallurgy legacy she discovered, which led her to choose to promote work rooted in the history of the Americas, with its unique aesthetics, materials — and, through the jewellery, bring those values to the world. Ana’s passion is evident as she tells Anne how she is committed to work with the Afro goldsmith communities of the Chocó Biogeographical Region while adding sustainability to their cultural heritage around goldsmithing.</p><p>Ana's work is characterised by a strong commitment to social impact, particularly in supporting vulnerable communities like women miners and the Afro-Colombian artisan jewellers of this region. She talks about the impact of unlicensed mining and emphasises the need for transparency in the jewellery supply chain, advocating for ethical sourcing and fair trade practices.</p><p>Looking ahead, Ana offers her vision for Moda Elan, which would be to expand its reach and bring more awareness and support for ethical jewellery, reaching the wider ethical luxury market and leveraging the stories and values behind each piece to spark meaningful conversations with the view to drive sustainable change. She acknowledges the challenges she faces, such as managing rural associations and competing with large gold traders, but remains determined to overcome them. To illustrate that point, Ana jokes that this project is like “a jumbo jet with a blender motor.”</p><p>Ana's journey is a testament to the power of shared values and the potential for creating positive impact through dedication and collaboration. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>Ana on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ana-maria-sierra-restrepo/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ana-maria-sierra-restrepo/</a></p><p>You can also reach out to her directly <a href="mailto:elan.moda.vital@gmail.com">elan.moda.vital@gmail.com</a></p><p>Information on the <a href="https://www.delvedatabase.org/news/culture-of-gold-and-jewelry-in-choc%C3%B3-colombia">Afro jewellers of the Choco region </a></p><p>Discover the Choco region of Colombia - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choc%C3%B3_Department">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choc%C3%B3_Department</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/juana-m%C3%A9ndez-uribe-04521b42/">Juana Mendez</a></p><p>The <a href="https://www.academia.edu/41625706/Cat%C3%A1logo_de_la_joyer%C3%ADa_tradicional_afrochocoana">Afro-Chocoan Jewelry Catalog</a></p><p>The article from the Independent that started jeweller Pippa Small  - <a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/the-real-price-of-gold-5348614.html">https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/the-real-price-of-gold-5348614.html</a></p><p>Dirty gold book & documentary -<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr_S81JyAxk">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr_S81JyAxk</a></p><p>Alliance for responsible mining - <a href="https://www.responsiblemines.org/en/">https://www.responsiblemines.org/en/</a></p><p>Oro Verde, the project that paved the way for the Alliance for Responsible Mining - <a href="https://www.responsiblemines.org/en/2014/05/update-from-oro-verde-and-amichoco/">https://www.responsiblemines.org/en/2014/05/update-from-oro-verde-and-amichoco/</a></p><p> </p><p>The Arts & Crafts Santo Domingo School or Escuela de Artes y Oficios Santo Domingo where Ana studied silversmithing. <a href="https://www.eaosd.org">https://www.eaosd.org</a></p><p> </p><p>The book The Cave (la Caverna) by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Saramago">José Saramago</a> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cave_(novel)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cave_(novel)</a></p><p> </p><p>Algor meaning - <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/algor">https://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/algor</a></p><p> </p><p>Elan Vital - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89lan_vital">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89lan_vital</a></p><p> </p><p>Philosopher Henri Bergson - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Bergson">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Bergson</a></p><p> </p><p>Out of the Clouds website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p> </p><p>Out of the Clouds on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds">https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds</a></p><p> </p><p>The Mettā View website: <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view">https://avm.consulting/metta-view</a></p><p> </p><p>Anne on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p> </p><p>Anne on Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi">https://www.threads.net/@annvi</a></p><p> </p><p>Anne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[To celebrate four years of Out of the Clouds, the podcast, host Anne Muhlethaler has selected some of her favorite interviews to replay this month. Third up, the amazing story (and energy) of Arthur Gourounlian, dancer, choreographer, Papa (to the wonderful Blake) and currently judge on Dancing with the Stars Ireland. A unique interview with a beautiful and generous soul. If you've never listened to it, enjoy!]]></itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Arthur Gourounlian (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/gourounlian/">@gourounlian</a>) is an Armenian-born professional dancer, choreographer and television personality, and most recently one of the three judges on Dancing with the Stars Ireland.</p><p>Arthur has performed and toured with some of the most beloved performers of recent time, from Bananarama to Beyoncé, Pink to Kylie Minogue, and many more. After a successful career as a dancer, he went on to take a leading role in casting, coaching, movement directing and choreographing music videos, world tours, media campaigns, and trade/fashion shows for Christian Louboutin, Diesel, Puma, Jean-Paul Gaultier among others. He has also appeared on television and movies, fashion shows, and advertising campaigns himself, and performed in Britain's Got Talent, Celebrity X Factor, the Brit Awards and The Royal Variety Show.</p><p>Arthur and Anne met in 2010 when she was working for Christian Louboutin. They collaborated on a project for online platform Fashionair, when Arthur trained Christian for his first and only dance performance, which culminated in a viral video that saw the famous shoe designer tap dance his way in a dream sequence on a London stage. </p><p>In this conversation, Arthur shares with Anne his harrowing journey from Armenia to Belgium as a refugee with his family, escaping the war when he was just twelve years old. Then how, while their refugee status was still being decided, his family was rocked by the death of his father. Shortly after, young Arthur left for Brussels to try his hand at hairdressing, only to find himself being picked out of the crowd and selected as a dancer. From there, Arthur discusses his many surprises and successes, how he went from Milan to London, and made his mark on the dance scene as a performer before turning to choreography and creative direction. </p><p>Arthur dreamt of making it big, an homage to his father, and moving away from the refugee status he carried as an adolescent. The successful and charismatic personality is also the other half of one of Ireland’s most beloved celebrity couples, as he is married to Big Brother alumni/star Brian Dowling. The two of them recently welcomed their first child into the world, Blake Maria Rose, and Arthur shares the ups and downs that have led to this most joyous moment. </p><p>Arthur’s story is quite unlike any other. As Anne reflects to him, it’s epic enough to be hinting at Joseph Campbell’s hero’s journey. A sparkling, touching and deeply positive interview with someone who will certainly light up your day. Happy listening.</p><p>Favourite quote of the episode: </p><p><i>‘I only keep things that Arthur wants to keep because I only keep what I think is best for me. Why would I listen to you? It's your journey. I want to create my own journey.’  </i></p><p><i>***</i></p><p>You can out more about  Arthur on his website: <a href="http://arthurgourounlian.com/">http://arthurgourounlian.com/</a></p><p>IG -  <a href="https://www.instagram.com/gourounlian/">https://www.instagram.com/gourounlian/</a></p><p>Facebook - Arthur Gourounlian - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/arthurgourounlian">https://www.facebook.com/arthurgourounlian</a></p><p>and his Youtube Channel - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/arthurgourounlian">https://www.youtube.com/user/arthurgourounlian</a></p><p>and Vimeo - <a href="https://vimeo.com/arthurgourounlian">https://vimeo.com/arthurgourounlian</a></p><p>The Fashionair film Dancer in a Day Dream featuring Christian Louboutin and Arthur - <a href="https://youtu.be/esXVbslAvVY" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/esXVbslAvVY</a></p><p>The making of the film - <a href="https://youtu.be/ZxwocNpdl4Q" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/ZxwocNpdl4Q</a></p><p>You can also discover Arthur's new venture, AG Socks - <a href="https://theagofficial.com/products/the-gourounlian">https://theagofficial.com/products/the-gourounlian</a></p><p>Notre Dame de Paris, the musical - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame_de_Paris_(musical)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame_de_Paris_(musical)</a></p><p>Sous le Soleil TV show -<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0172057/">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0172057/</a></p><p>The podcast Mamia & Me featuring Arthur and his husband Brian Dowling - <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dont-wake-the-baby-with-brian-dowling/id1570246269?i=1000559798535">https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dont-wake-the-baby-with-brian-dowling/id1570246269?i=1000559798535</a></p><p>The blooper real with Arthur and Brian touching up their hair - <a href="https://youtu.be/MPMxXk0usVI" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/MPMxXk0usVI</a></p><p>The song 'Maniac' by Michael Sambello - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/7CML07e8m56LrmgkC4Bl3Z?si=9462b40d81fb4e98">https://open.spotify.com/track/7CML07e8m56LrmgkC4Bl3Z?si=9462b40d81fb4e98</a></p><p>Dancing with the Stars Ireland - <a href="https://www.rte.ie/tv/programmes/dancing-with-the-stars/">https://www.rte.ie/tv/programmes/dancing-with-the-stars/</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Arthur Gourounlian (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/gourounlian/">@gourounlian</a>) is an Armenian-born professional dancer, choreographer and television personality, and most recently one of the three judges on Dancing with the Stars Ireland.</p><p>Arthur has performed and toured with some of the most beloved performers of recent time, from Bananarama to Beyoncé, Pink to Kylie Minogue, and many more. After a successful career as a dancer, he went on to take a leading role in casting, coaching, movement directing and choreographing music videos, world tours, media campaigns, and trade/fashion shows for Christian Louboutin, Diesel, Puma, Jean-Paul Gaultier among others. He has also appeared on television and movies, fashion shows, and advertising campaigns himself, and performed in Britain's Got Talent, Celebrity X Factor, the Brit Awards and The Royal Variety Show.</p><p>Arthur and Anne met in 2010 when she was working for Christian Louboutin. They collaborated on a project for online platform Fashionair, when Arthur trained Christian for his first and only dance performance, which culminated in a viral video that saw the famous shoe designer tap dance his way in a dream sequence on a London stage. </p><p>In this conversation, Arthur shares with Anne his harrowing journey from Armenia to Belgium as a refugee with his family, escaping the war when he was just twelve years old. Then how, while their refugee status was still being decided, his family was rocked by the death of his father. Shortly after, young Arthur left for Brussels to try his hand at hairdressing, only to find himself being picked out of the crowd and selected as a dancer. From there, Arthur discusses his many surprises and successes, how he went from Milan to London, and made his mark on the dance scene as a performer before turning to choreography and creative direction. </p><p>Arthur dreamt of making it big, an homage to his father, and moving away from the refugee status he carried as an adolescent. The successful and charismatic personality is also the other half of one of Ireland’s most beloved celebrity couples, as he is married to Big Brother alumni/star Brian Dowling. The two of them recently welcomed their first child into the world, Blake Maria Rose, and Arthur shares the ups and downs that have led to this most joyous moment. </p><p>Arthur’s story is quite unlike any other. As Anne reflects to him, it’s epic enough to be hinting at Joseph Campbell’s hero’s journey. A sparkling, touching and deeply positive interview with someone who will certainly light up your day. Happy listening.</p><p>Favourite quote of the episode: </p><p><i>‘I only keep things that Arthur wants to keep because I only keep what I think is best for me. Why would I listen to you? It's your journey. I want to create my own journey.’  </i></p><p><i>***</i></p><p>You can out more about  Arthur on his website: <a href="http://arthurgourounlian.com/">http://arthurgourounlian.com/</a></p><p>IG -  <a href="https://www.instagram.com/gourounlian/">https://www.instagram.com/gourounlian/</a></p><p>Facebook - Arthur Gourounlian - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/arthurgourounlian">https://www.facebook.com/arthurgourounlian</a></p><p>and his Youtube Channel - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/arthurgourounlian">https://www.youtube.com/user/arthurgourounlian</a></p><p>and Vimeo - <a href="https://vimeo.com/arthurgourounlian">https://vimeo.com/arthurgourounlian</a></p><p>The Fashionair film Dancer in a Day Dream featuring Christian Louboutin and Arthur - <a href="https://youtu.be/esXVbslAvVY" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/esXVbslAvVY</a></p><p>The making of the film - <a href="https://youtu.be/ZxwocNpdl4Q" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/ZxwocNpdl4Q</a></p><p>You can also discover Arthur's new venture, AG Socks - <a href="https://theagofficial.com/products/the-gourounlian">https://theagofficial.com/products/the-gourounlian</a></p><p>Notre Dame de Paris, the musical - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame_de_Paris_(musical)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame_de_Paris_(musical)</a></p><p>Sous le Soleil TV show -<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0172057/">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0172057/</a></p><p>The podcast Mamia & Me featuring Arthur and his husband Brian Dowling - <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dont-wake-the-baby-with-brian-dowling/id1570246269?i=1000559798535">https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dont-wake-the-baby-with-brian-dowling/id1570246269?i=1000559798535</a></p><p>The blooper real with Arthur and Brian touching up their hair - <a href="https://youtu.be/MPMxXk0usVI" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/MPMxXk0usVI</a></p><p>The song 'Maniac' by Michael Sambello - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/7CML07e8m56LrmgkC4Bl3Z?si=9462b40d81fb4e98">https://open.spotify.com/track/7CML07e8m56LrmgkC4Bl3Z?si=9462b40d81fb4e98</a></p><p>Dancing with the Stars Ireland - <a href="https://www.rte.ie/tv/programmes/dancing-with-the-stars/">https://www.rte.ie/tv/programmes/dancing-with-the-stars/</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:subtitle>To mark four years of Out of the Clouds, the podcast, host Anne Mühlethaler selected four of her favorite interviews to replay over the course of the month of June. This second conversation features ex-ballerina, yoga teacher, celebrity fitness instructor and entrepreneur Julie Granger. Julie offers thoughtful insights on her life starting with her late start in ballet, how she left her ballerina identity and found unexpected new passions, what it means to have good posture and why she wants to make the benefits of ballet available to all. A passionate interview with a fascinating and generous teacher.</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews celebrity fitness trainer and former ballerina Julie Granger. Anne came across Julie via an online recommendation and was immediately struck not only by the instructor’s passion for teaching and the effectiveness of her classes (particularly Brooklyn Barre), but also by the combination of her warmth and dry sense of humour. </p><p>In this interview, they dig into Julie’s journey from the outskirts of Paris to the Boston Ballet, why she left her ballerina career behind, and how she decided to pursue new callings, including yoga, fitness and entrepreneurship. </p><p>Currently based between Paris and Lisbon, Julie explains how she is ‘three-quarters teacher’, and why she is not teaching by default but as a choice since it’s something she truly loves. Having opened her first studio the week before the first COVID lockdown in 2020, the ex-ballerina opens up on the difficulties she faced then and how grateful she is to have been able to continue to lead her community of students (her ‘Squad,’ as she calls them) virtually.  </p><p>Anne and Julie discuss the competitive culture of celebrity trainers in New York and the benefits of discipline and passion. Julie also shares how she wants to offer her students not just the benefits of a toned and energised body but for them to have a great time while engaging with fitness, as well as how she hopes to make the benefits of ballet available to all. Finally, Julie covers how she’s learned to be kinder to herself, as we often are our own harshest critics, and why kindness is what matters most. </p><p>A passionate, wise, and spirited interview. Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p>***</p><p>You can find Julie at <a href="https://www.julie-granger.com/">https://www.julie-granger.com/</a></p><p>or follow her on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jujuonther0cks/">https://www.instagram.com/jujuonther0cks/</a></p><p>Her classes are available at <a href="https://thestudioparis.com/">https://thestudioparis.com/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/thestudioparis/">https://www.instagram.com/thestudioparis/</a></p><p>The Boston Ballet - <a href="https://www.bostonballet.org/home.aspx">https://www.bostonballet.org/home.aspx</a></p><p>The Joffrey Ballet in Chicago - <a href="https://joffrey.org/">https://joffrey.org/</a></p><p>Pure Yoga New York - <a href="http://pureyoga.com/">http://pureyoga.com/</a></p><p>Keep the Faith by Michael Jackson - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIEiP7kzGjI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIEiP7kzGjI</a></p><p>Follow the Dream by Elvis Prestley - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD0xsv2BHFw">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD0xsv2BHFw</a></p><p>La Dame aux Camélias - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Dame_aux_Cam%C3%A9lias">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Dame_aux_Cam%C3%A9lias</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by AVM Consulting </strong></p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews celebrity fitness trainer and former ballerina Julie Granger. Anne came across Julie via an online recommendation and was immediately struck not only by the instructor’s passion for teaching and the effectiveness of her classes (particularly Brooklyn Barre), but also by the combination of her warmth and dry sense of humour. </p><p>In this interview, they dig into Julie’s journey from the outskirts of Paris to the Boston Ballet, why she left her ballerina career behind, and how she decided to pursue new callings, including yoga, fitness and entrepreneurship. </p><p>Currently based between Paris and Lisbon, Julie explains how she is ‘three-quarters teacher’, and why she is not teaching by default but as a choice since it’s something she truly loves. Having opened her first studio the week before the first COVID lockdown in 2020, the ex-ballerina opens up on the difficulties she faced then and how grateful she is to have been able to continue to lead her community of students (her ‘Squad,’ as she calls them) virtually.  </p><p>Anne and Julie discuss the competitive culture of celebrity trainers in New York and the benefits of discipline and passion. Julie also shares how she wants to offer her students not just the benefits of a toned and energised body but for them to have a great time while engaging with fitness, as well as how she hopes to make the benefits of ballet available to all. Finally, Julie covers how she’s learned to be kinder to herself, as we often are our own harshest critics, and why kindness is what matters most. </p><p>A passionate, wise, and spirited interview. Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p>***</p><p>You can find Julie at <a href="https://www.julie-granger.com/">https://www.julie-granger.com/</a></p><p>or follow her on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jujuonther0cks/">https://www.instagram.com/jujuonther0cks/</a></p><p>Her classes are available at <a href="https://thestudioparis.com/">https://thestudioparis.com/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/thestudioparis/">https://www.instagram.com/thestudioparis/</a></p><p>The Boston Ballet - <a href="https://www.bostonballet.org/home.aspx">https://www.bostonballet.org/home.aspx</a></p><p>The Joffrey Ballet in Chicago - <a href="https://joffrey.org/">https://joffrey.org/</a></p><p>Pure Yoga New York - <a href="http://pureyoga.com/">http://pureyoga.com/</a></p><p>Keep the Faith by Michael Jackson - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIEiP7kzGjI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIEiP7kzGjI</a></p><p>Follow the Dream by Elvis Prestley - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD0xsv2BHFw">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD0xsv2BHFw</a></p><p>La Dame aux Camélias - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Dame_aux_Cam%C3%A9lias">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Dame_aux_Cam%C3%A9lias</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by AVM Consulting </strong></p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:subtitle>In this one of a kind episode, host of the Out of the Clouds podcast, Anne Muhlethaler, is interviewed by her friend, podcast host and journalist Etain Lavelle.</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this one-of-a-kind episode, host of the Out of the Clouds podcast, Anne V Mühlethaler, is the ‘guest,’ this time being interviewed by her friend, podcast host and journalist Etain Lavelle. </p><p><br />Anne shares in her introduction that Etain is like extended family to her. They became friends in their twenties and shared a flat on London’s Gloucester Road for a few years. Etain was the best person to interview Anne for this special episode.</p><p>In this conversation, Etain dives into Anne’s life journey, asking about her childhood memories and her unconventional education. Anne explains how she found herself settling into a retail career at Christian Louboutin, which was then a small label, after abandoning her pursuit at a music career. She also recounts the outset of what ended up as a seventeen-year stint at the now global shoe brand. </p><p>Later, Anne talks about the vision behind her coaching, consulting and storytelling practice and the genesis of her podcast Out of the Clouds, before talking about why being consistent in communication is just as essential as choosing the right platforms for a brand. </p><p>The two discuss successes and lessons learned from difficulties at home during Anne’s teenage years. They reflect how her past put her on the path that she is on, though, leading her to become a mindfulness meditation teacher. It’s an emotional topic for Anne, who fights back tears as she reveals the intimate connection between the two. </p><p>To conclude, Etain and Anne discuss language, their favourite books, how their travels have changed them, and the importance of trusting the process. </p><p>A unique interview that offers a glimpse into Anne’s backstory. Happy listening!</p><p>*** </p><p><strong>Selected links from episode </strong></p><p>Explore Anne's portfolio career at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/</a></p><p>Join Anne for her upcoming event, <a href="https://avm.consulting/coaching/your-next-chapter-a-goal-setting-workshop" target="_blank">Your Next Chapter, a goal setting workshop. </a></p><p>You can connect with Anne on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" target="_blank">@Annvi</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi" target="_blank">Threads</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">LinkedIn</a></p><p>Find out about Anne's coaching offers at <a href="https://avm.consulting/coaching" target="_blank">https://avm.consulting/coaching</a></p><p>You can <a href="https://insighttimer.com/annevmuhlethaler" target="_blank">meditate with Anne via Insight Timer</a>, with recorded practices, live sessions or discover her course, <a href="https://insighttimer.com/meditation-courses/WoDg6h4McSPDMImGopSQ?_branch_match_id=1297206212737849531&_branch_referrer=H4sIAAAAAAAAA8soKSkottLXz8wrzkzXyyjRNzDJSHP1zrMsdUsCAEaiUdEcAAAA" target="_blank">Loving Kindness 101</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter, <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view" target="_blank">the Metta View,</a> a weekly source of essential insights on coaching, brand development and storytelling with a hint of mindfulness. </p><p>Discover Anne's mindfulness-centered sister podcast <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1xgeg2Yq3yLFdj3829zkni" target="_blank">Out of the Clouds Waking Heart </a></p><p>Join the <a href="https://www.meetup.com/out-of-the-clouds/" target="_blank">Out of the Clouds MeetUp community </a></p><p>Find out more about Anne's strategic consultancy, <a href="https://avm.consulting/" target="_blank">AVM Consulting</a>, bridging coaching, consulting and storytelling.</p><p>Anne's favorite books: </p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forty_Rules_of_Love" target="_blank">The Forty Rules of Love</a> by Elif Shafak</p><p><a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Usage_du_monde" target="_blank">L'Usage du Monde</a> by Nicholas Bouvier</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neapolitan_Novels" target="_blank">The Neapolitan novels</a> by Elena Ferrante</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this one-of-a-kind episode, host of the Out of the Clouds podcast, Anne V Mühlethaler, is the ‘guest,’ this time being interviewed by her friend, podcast host and journalist Etain Lavelle. </p><p><br />Anne shares in her introduction that Etain is like extended family to her. They became friends in their twenties and shared a flat on London’s Gloucester Road for a few years. Etain was the best person to interview Anne for this special episode.</p><p>In this conversation, Etain dives into Anne’s life journey, asking about her childhood memories and her unconventional education. Anne explains how she found herself settling into a retail career at Christian Louboutin, which was then a small label, after abandoning her pursuit at a music career. She also recounts the outset of what ended up as a seventeen-year stint at the now global shoe brand. </p><p>Later, Anne talks about the vision behind her coaching, consulting and storytelling practice and the genesis of her podcast Out of the Clouds, before talking about why being consistent in communication is just as essential as choosing the right platforms for a brand. </p><p>The two discuss successes and lessons learned from difficulties at home during Anne’s teenage years. They reflect how her past put her on the path that she is on, though, leading her to become a mindfulness meditation teacher. It’s an emotional topic for Anne, who fights back tears as she reveals the intimate connection between the two. </p><p>To conclude, Etain and Anne discuss language, their favourite books, how their travels have changed them, and the importance of trusting the process. </p><p>A unique interview that offers a glimpse into Anne’s backstory. Happy listening!</p><p>*** </p><p><strong>Selected links from episode </strong></p><p>Explore Anne's portfolio career at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/</a></p><p>Join Anne for her upcoming event, <a href="https://avm.consulting/coaching/your-next-chapter-a-goal-setting-workshop" target="_blank">Your Next Chapter, a goal setting workshop. </a></p><p>You can connect with Anne on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" target="_blank">@Annvi</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@annvi" target="_blank">Threads</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler/">LinkedIn</a></p><p>Find out about Anne's coaching offers at <a href="https://avm.consulting/coaching" target="_blank">https://avm.consulting/coaching</a></p><p>You can <a href="https://insighttimer.com/annevmuhlethaler" target="_blank">meditate with Anne via Insight Timer</a>, with recorded practices, live sessions or discover her course, <a href="https://insighttimer.com/meditation-courses/WoDg6h4McSPDMImGopSQ?_branch_match_id=1297206212737849531&_branch_referrer=H4sIAAAAAAAAA8soKSkottLXz8wrzkzXyyjRNzDJSHP1zrMsdUsCAEaiUdEcAAAA" target="_blank">Loving Kindness 101</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter, <a href="https://avm.consulting/metta-view" target="_blank">the Metta View,</a> a weekly source of essential insights on coaching, brand development and storytelling with a hint of mindfulness. </p><p>Discover Anne's mindfulness-centered sister podcast <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1xgeg2Yq3yLFdj3829zkni" target="_blank">Out of the Clouds Waking Heart </a></p><p>Join the <a href="https://www.meetup.com/out-of-the-clouds/" target="_blank">Out of the Clouds MeetUp community </a></p><p>Find out more about Anne's strategic consultancy, <a href="https://avm.consulting/" target="_blank">AVM Consulting</a>, bridging coaching, consulting and storytelling.</p><p>Anne's favorite books: </p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forty_Rules_of_Love" target="_blank">The Forty Rules of Love</a> by Elif Shafak</p><p><a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Usage_du_monde" target="_blank">L'Usage du Monde</a> by Nicholas Bouvier</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neapolitan_Novels" target="_blank">The Neapolitan novels</a> by Elena Ferrante</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>[Replay] Annie Carpenter on dharma, continuing to evolve and how good learning takes place within</title>
			<itunes:title>[Replay] Annie Carpenter on dharma, continuing to evolve and how good learning takes place within</itunes:title>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Out of the Clouds, the podcast, will celebrate its 4th birthday in June 2024. With 70 episodes under her belt, host and producer Anne Mühlethaler was moved to revisit a few of her favourite interviews, starting with this conversation with yoga teacher extraordinaire Annie Carpenter.</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Before we get to the interview, a message from Anne:</p><p><i>‘Hosting this podcast and interviewing all these amazing people has been such an enriching experience, and I had no idea the impact it would have on me and my listeners. With every conversation, I feel changed by my guests' stories. Because it is stories that stay with us, that and how people made us feel.’  </i></p><p><i>On that note, dear listener, can you please do me a favour?</i></p><p><i>If you enjoy Out of the Clouds, please rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It helps make it stand out and will support booking of upcoming guests.’</i></p><h2>Episode Notes</h2><p>Known in the yoga world as THE teachers’ teacher, Annie Carpenter (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/anniecarpentersmartflow/">@anniecarpentersmartflow</a>) shares her story with Anne, who has been an avid student, first via online platform Glo.com, before attending live Zoom classes and IRL workshops with her in 2022. </p><p>Annie’s journey starts in Virginia, but she tells Anne how she found her path early on with dance, leading her to the Martha Graham company and New York City. From getting a scholarship to working at the junior company and briefly joining the main company, Annie found a calling in what she refers to as authentic self-movement and in teaching at the Martha Graham Center. An introvert, she shares with Anne how yoga became an essential part of her life, thanks to Integral yoga (Swami Satchidananda’s school) which felt like a refuge from the competitiveness of the dance world.</p><p>Annie explains how after a trip to LA and a conversation with her teacher Maty Ezraty, she impulsively relocated to the West Coast and turned to teaching yoga full time, training at Yoga Works under Maty and Lisa Walford. They go on to talk about teaching, about Annie's movement principles and energy, how to create inspiration for students, and why Annie founded her own yoga school, Smart Flow Yoga. </p><p>Annie also shares why continuing to evolve is essential, as well as learning to let go of preconceived notions. She explains how she has learnt to tap into her students’ expectations rather than relying on her own. Now based in Northern California, the teacher, who turned 65 this year, also talks about the stages of life, or ashrams, and she is learning to ‘retire’ whatever is not supportive in her practice. Quoting Noam Chomsky, she says: "If you are teaching today what you were teaching five years ago, either your field is dead, or you are.” </p><p>Annie also reveals  her passion for bird-watching, her mindfulness and pranayama practices, and how learning to be still was the doorway to her meditation practice. Finally, she answers the most delicate and profound question of all, one that Annie regularly asks her students: who is Annie? </p><p>A joyous, profoundly thoughtful and inspiring interview. Enjoy!</p><p><strong>Takeaways</strong></p><ul><li>Annie Carpenter's journey from dance to yoga and the influence of Martha Graham on her practice</li><li>The importance of finding one's truth and balance in yoga practice</li><li>Annie's development of Smart Flow Yoga and the principles behind it</li><li>Annie's role as a teacher's teacher and her experience teaching on Glow Glow Yoga offers a variety of teachers and practices that are both entertaining and beneficial.</li><li>Teaching yoga via Zoom has its challenges, but it also allows for a more global community.</li><li>Traveling for yoga teacher trainings can be both rewarding and guilt-inducing due to carbon emissions.</li><li>Tapping into energy and using inquiry are important aspects of teaching yoga.</li><li>Somatic movement and meditation can enhance the yoga practice and bring about self-discovery.</li><li>Yoga philosophy, such as the Yuga Sutras, offers insights into time, space, and the human experience.</li><li>There is a need for more accessible yoga classes that cater to beginners and focus on functional movement.</li><li>Birdwatching is a passion of Anne's that connects her with nature and brings her joy. Birdwatching can be a meditative and calming hobby that allows for a deeper connection with nature.</li><li>Daily rituals and practices, such as breathing exercises and yoga, can support well-being and balance.</li><li>Continuous learning and evolution are essential in teaching and personal growth.</li><li>Exploring the question of 'Who am I?' can lead to a deeper understanding of oneself and a sense of constancy.</li><li>Connection, empathy, and self-discovery are key to finding happiness.</li></ul><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00 Introduction to Annie Carpenter</p><p>03:01 Annie's Journey from Dance to Yoga</p><p>11:19 Annie's Early Yoga Experiences and Integral Yoga</p><p>22:38 Creating Her Own School and Curriculum</p><p>27:07 Movement Principles in Smart Flow Yoga</p><p>31:45 Annie Carpenter: A Teacher's Teacher</p><p>34:36 Teaching on Glow and the Future</p><p>36:02 The Exciting and Beneficial World of Glow Yoga</p><p>37:28 Teaching Yoga via Zoom: Challenges and Opportunities</p><p>38:55 The Dilemma of Travel and Carbon Emissions</p><p>42:17 Tapping into Energy and the Power of Inquiry in Teaching</p><p>44:43 Exploring Somatic Movement and Meditation in Yoga</p><p>57:31 Insights from Yoga Philosophy: The Yuga Sutras</p><p>01:09:10 The Need for Accessible Yoga Classes</p><p>01:12:04 Finding Joy in Birdwatching</p><p>01:13:29 Birding: A Meditative and Calming Practice</p><p>01:20:22 Daily Rituals for Well-being and Balance</p><p>01:25:22 Continuous Learning and Evolution in Teaching</p><p>01:32:40 Exploring the Question of 'Who am I?'</p><p>01:43:29 The Significance of Connection, Empathy, and Self-Discovery in Happiness</p><p>***</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode</strong></p><p>You can find Annie at <a href="https://www.smartflowyoga.com/about-annie-carpenter/">https://www.smartflowyoga.com/about-annie-carpenter/</a></p><p>on Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/anniecarpentersmartflow/">https://www.instagram.com/anniecarpentersmartflow/</a></p><p>and on Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/annie.carpenter1">https://www.facebook.com/annie.carpenter1</a></p><p>And all details for her upcoming class schedule and teacher trainings are available here  - <a href="https://www.smartflowyoga.com/">https://www.smartflowyoga.com/</a></p><p>or find Annie's classes on Glo - <a href="https://www.glo.com/">https://www.glo.com/</a></p><p><strong>Selected links from episode</strong></p><p>Martha Graham on Wikipedia - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Graham">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Graham</a></p><p>And <a href="https://marthagraham.org/">https://marthagraham.org/</a></p><p>The classic piece Appalachian Spring - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM5-CsI713g">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM5-CsI713g</a></p><p>Integral Yoga - <a href="https://integralyoga.org/">https://integralyoga.org/</a></p><p>Savasana pose - <a href="https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/6582/savasana">https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/6582/savasana</a></p><p>Ali McGraw Yoga, Mind & Body - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmW5Og4VBg8">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmW5Og4VBg8</a></p><p>Eric Schiffman - <a href="https://erichschiffmann.com/">https://erichschiffmann.com/</a></p><p>Sally Kempton - <a href="https://www.sallykempton.com/">https://www.sallykempton.com/</a></p><p>Swami Satchidananda - <a href="https://integralyoga.org/founder/">https://integralyoga.org/founder/</a></p><p>Maty Ezrati - <a href="https://matyezraty.com/">https://matyezraty.com/</a></p><p>Kia Miller - <a href="https://www.kiamiller.com/">https://www.kiamiller.com/</a></p><p>Triyoga London - <a href="https://triyoga.co.uk/">https://triyoga.co.uk/</a></p><p>Diana Rilov - <a href="https://www.dianarilov.com/">https://www.dianarilov.com/</a></p><p>Feldenkreis - <a href="https://feldenkrais.com/">https://feldenkrais.com/</a></p><p>Alexander Technique - <a href="https://alexandertechnique.com/">https://alexandertechnique.com/</a></p><p>Bonnie Bainbridgecohen - <a href="https://bonniebainbridgecohen.com/">https://bonniebainbridgecohen.com/</a></p><p>The Glo Podcast - <a href="https://podcast.glo.com/">https://podcast.glo.com/</a></p><p>The yoga sutras of Patanjali - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_Sutras_of_Patanjali">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_Sutras_of_Patanjali</a></p><p>Siddhis - <a href="https://www.thecontemplativelife.org/blog/yoga-sutras-patanjali-siddhis-mystic-powers">https://www.thecontemplativelife.org/blog/yoga-sutras-patanjali-siddhis-mystic-powers</a></p><p>The prothonotary warbler - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prothonotary_warbler">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prothonotary_warbler</a></p><p>Slow birding, the book by Joan E. Strassmann - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Slow-Birding-Science-Enjoying-Backyard/dp/B09SN7L7WM">https://www.amazon.com/Slow-Birding-Science-Enjoying-Backyard/dp/B09SN7L7WM</a></p><p>Scrub jays - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_scrub_jay">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_scrub_jay</a></p><p>The four ashrams of life - <a href="https://yogasvi.com/the-four-ashrams-of-life/">https://yogasvi.com/the-four-ashrams-of-life/</a></p><p>Abhinivesha - <a href="https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/5533/abhinivesha">https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/5533/abhinivesha</a></p><p>Annie’s favourite word 'molt' - <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/molt">https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/molt</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds' playlist - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=9c1d46979d784aba">https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=9c1d46979d784aba</a></p><p>Annie's choice for what song best represents her is I'll Take You There by the Staple Singers - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/5xHfZxFBcMA2akGVMM1bdk?si=fb01ff20b53c42b7">https://open.spotify.com/track/5xHfZxFBcMA2akGVMM1bdk?si=fb01ff20b53c42b7</a></p><p>An Immense world by Ed Yong <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59575939-an-immense-world">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59575939-an-immense-world</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Before we get to the interview, a message from Anne:</p><p><i>‘Hosting this podcast and interviewing all these amazing people has been such an enriching experience, and I had no idea the impact it would have on me and my listeners. With every conversation, I feel changed by my guests' stories. Because it is stories that stay with us, that and how people made us feel.’  </i></p><p><i>On that note, dear listener, can you please do me a favour?</i></p><p><i>If you enjoy Out of the Clouds, please rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It helps make it stand out and will support booking of upcoming guests.’</i></p><h2>Episode Notes</h2><p>Known in the yoga world as THE teachers’ teacher, Annie Carpenter (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/anniecarpentersmartflow/">@anniecarpentersmartflow</a>) shares her story with Anne, who has been an avid student, first via online platform Glo.com, before attending live Zoom classes and IRL workshops with her in 2022. </p><p>Annie’s journey starts in Virginia, but she tells Anne how she found her path early on with dance, leading her to the Martha Graham company and New York City. From getting a scholarship to working at the junior company and briefly joining the main company, Annie found a calling in what she refers to as authentic self-movement and in teaching at the Martha Graham Center. An introvert, she shares with Anne how yoga became an essential part of her life, thanks to Integral yoga (Swami Satchidananda’s school) which felt like a refuge from the competitiveness of the dance world.</p><p>Annie explains how after a trip to LA and a conversation with her teacher Maty Ezraty, she impulsively relocated to the West Coast and turned to teaching yoga full time, training at Yoga Works under Maty and Lisa Walford. They go on to talk about teaching, about Annie's movement principles and energy, how to create inspiration for students, and why Annie founded her own yoga school, Smart Flow Yoga. </p><p>Annie also shares why continuing to evolve is essential, as well as learning to let go of preconceived notions. She explains how she has learnt to tap into her students’ expectations rather than relying on her own. Now based in Northern California, the teacher, who turned 65 this year, also talks about the stages of life, or ashrams, and she is learning to ‘retire’ whatever is not supportive in her practice. Quoting Noam Chomsky, she says: "If you are teaching today what you were teaching five years ago, either your field is dead, or you are.” </p><p>Annie also reveals  her passion for bird-watching, her mindfulness and pranayama practices, and how learning to be still was the doorway to her meditation practice. Finally, she answers the most delicate and profound question of all, one that Annie regularly asks her students: who is Annie? </p><p>A joyous, profoundly thoughtful and inspiring interview. Enjoy!</p><p><strong>Takeaways</strong></p><ul><li>Annie Carpenter's journey from dance to yoga and the influence of Martha Graham on her practice</li><li>The importance of finding one's truth and balance in yoga practice</li><li>Annie's development of Smart Flow Yoga and the principles behind it</li><li>Annie's role as a teacher's teacher and her experience teaching on Glow Glow Yoga offers a variety of teachers and practices that are both entertaining and beneficial.</li><li>Teaching yoga via Zoom has its challenges, but it also allows for a more global community.</li><li>Traveling for yoga teacher trainings can be both rewarding and guilt-inducing due to carbon emissions.</li><li>Tapping into energy and using inquiry are important aspects of teaching yoga.</li><li>Somatic movement and meditation can enhance the yoga practice and bring about self-discovery.</li><li>Yoga philosophy, such as the Yuga Sutras, offers insights into time, space, and the human experience.</li><li>There is a need for more accessible yoga classes that cater to beginners and focus on functional movement.</li><li>Birdwatching is a passion of Anne's that connects her with nature and brings her joy. Birdwatching can be a meditative and calming hobby that allows for a deeper connection with nature.</li><li>Daily rituals and practices, such as breathing exercises and yoga, can support well-being and balance.</li><li>Continuous learning and evolution are essential in teaching and personal growth.</li><li>Exploring the question of 'Who am I?' can lead to a deeper understanding of oneself and a sense of constancy.</li><li>Connection, empathy, and self-discovery are key to finding happiness.</li></ul><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00 Introduction to Annie Carpenter</p><p>03:01 Annie's Journey from Dance to Yoga</p><p>11:19 Annie's Early Yoga Experiences and Integral Yoga</p><p>22:38 Creating Her Own School and Curriculum</p><p>27:07 Movement Principles in Smart Flow Yoga</p><p>31:45 Annie Carpenter: A Teacher's Teacher</p><p>34:36 Teaching on Glow and the Future</p><p>36:02 The Exciting and Beneficial World of Glow Yoga</p><p>37:28 Teaching Yoga via Zoom: Challenges and Opportunities</p><p>38:55 The Dilemma of Travel and Carbon Emissions</p><p>42:17 Tapping into Energy and the Power of Inquiry in Teaching</p><p>44:43 Exploring Somatic Movement and Meditation in Yoga</p><p>57:31 Insights from Yoga Philosophy: The Yuga Sutras</p><p>01:09:10 The Need for Accessible Yoga Classes</p><p>01:12:04 Finding Joy in Birdwatching</p><p>01:13:29 Birding: A Meditative and Calming Practice</p><p>01:20:22 Daily Rituals for Well-being and Balance</p><p>01:25:22 Continuous Learning and Evolution in Teaching</p><p>01:32:40 Exploring the Question of 'Who am I?'</p><p>01:43:29 The Significance of Connection, Empathy, and Self-Discovery in Happiness</p><p>***</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode</strong></p><p>You can find Annie at <a href="https://www.smartflowyoga.com/about-annie-carpenter/">https://www.smartflowyoga.com/about-annie-carpenter/</a></p><p>on Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/anniecarpentersmartflow/">https://www.instagram.com/anniecarpentersmartflow/</a></p><p>and on Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/annie.carpenter1">https://www.facebook.com/annie.carpenter1</a></p><p>And all details for her upcoming class schedule and teacher trainings are available here  - <a href="https://www.smartflowyoga.com/">https://www.smartflowyoga.com/</a></p><p>or find Annie's classes on Glo - <a href="https://www.glo.com/">https://www.glo.com/</a></p><p><strong>Selected links from episode</strong></p><p>Martha Graham on Wikipedia - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Graham">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Graham</a></p><p>And <a href="https://marthagraham.org/">https://marthagraham.org/</a></p><p>The classic piece Appalachian Spring - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM5-CsI713g">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM5-CsI713g</a></p><p>Integral Yoga - <a href="https://integralyoga.org/">https://integralyoga.org/</a></p><p>Savasana pose - <a href="https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/6582/savasana">https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/6582/savasana</a></p><p>Ali McGraw Yoga, Mind & Body - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmW5Og4VBg8">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmW5Og4VBg8</a></p><p>Eric Schiffman - <a href="https://erichschiffmann.com/">https://erichschiffmann.com/</a></p><p>Sally Kempton - <a href="https://www.sallykempton.com/">https://www.sallykempton.com/</a></p><p>Swami Satchidananda - <a href="https://integralyoga.org/founder/">https://integralyoga.org/founder/</a></p><p>Maty Ezrati - <a href="https://matyezraty.com/">https://matyezraty.com/</a></p><p>Kia Miller - <a href="https://www.kiamiller.com/">https://www.kiamiller.com/</a></p><p>Triyoga London - <a href="https://triyoga.co.uk/">https://triyoga.co.uk/</a></p><p>Diana Rilov - <a href="https://www.dianarilov.com/">https://www.dianarilov.com/</a></p><p>Feldenkreis - <a href="https://feldenkrais.com/">https://feldenkrais.com/</a></p><p>Alexander Technique - <a href="https://alexandertechnique.com/">https://alexandertechnique.com/</a></p><p>Bonnie Bainbridgecohen - <a href="https://bonniebainbridgecohen.com/">https://bonniebainbridgecohen.com/</a></p><p>The Glo Podcast - <a href="https://podcast.glo.com/">https://podcast.glo.com/</a></p><p>The yoga sutras of Patanjali - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_Sutras_of_Patanjali">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_Sutras_of_Patanjali</a></p><p>Siddhis - <a href="https://www.thecontemplativelife.org/blog/yoga-sutras-patanjali-siddhis-mystic-powers">https://www.thecontemplativelife.org/blog/yoga-sutras-patanjali-siddhis-mystic-powers</a></p><p>The prothonotary warbler - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prothonotary_warbler">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prothonotary_warbler</a></p><p>Slow birding, the book by Joan E. Strassmann - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Slow-Birding-Science-Enjoying-Backyard/dp/B09SN7L7WM">https://www.amazon.com/Slow-Birding-Science-Enjoying-Backyard/dp/B09SN7L7WM</a></p><p>Scrub jays - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_scrub_jay">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_scrub_jay</a></p><p>The four ashrams of life - <a href="https://yogasvi.com/the-four-ashrams-of-life/">https://yogasvi.com/the-four-ashrams-of-life/</a></p><p>Abhinivesha - <a href="https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/5533/abhinivesha">https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/5533/abhinivesha</a></p><p>Annie’s favourite word 'molt' - <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/molt">https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/molt</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds' playlist - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=9c1d46979d784aba">https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=9c1d46979d784aba</a></p><p>Annie's choice for what song best represents her is I'll Take You There by the Staple Singers - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/5xHfZxFBcMA2akGVMM1bdk?si=fb01ff20b53c42b7">https://open.spotify.com/track/5xHfZxFBcMA2akGVMM1bdk?si=fb01ff20b53c42b7</a></p><p>An Immense world by Ed Yong <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59575939-an-immense-world">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59575939-an-immense-world</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi</a></p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Lisa Bragg on the importance of being seen and heard and the art of bragging with purpose</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>There are serendipitous moments in life, particularly when two women who are equally passionate about storytelling and connection end up on a podcast together. In this episode, Anne Muhlethaler interviews author, advisor and self-professed hype woman Lisa Bragg. </p><p>Lisa starts by sharing her journey from TV news reporter to launching her business, MediaFace, in 2007, which pioneered what we now know as content for our digital world. She also offers thoughts on the challenges posed by growing up with Bragg as a last name. </p><p>That leads Anne to ask Lisa about the genesis for her book, “Bragging Rights,” as well as how she designed the research which underpins it. Lisa speaks about the importance of creating a safe environment for people to talk about their successes, either at home or at work, to support personal and professional growth. While some research out there advises women <i>not to brag </i>or celebrate their successes for fear of backlash, Lisa challenges the concept (and the research) and suggests that it’s time for us to change the culture and ‘sister up’.  </p><p>She goes on to explain how taking an inventory of our personal values can be one of many exercises to explore meaningful self-promotion, highlighting that we are all the “CEO of our own life.” </p><p>The two women discuss that while purposeful self-promotion is important, it’s often challenging. Anne admits to barely being able to name any of her successes, and Lisa responds that ‘she is her book,’ meaning that she, too, has times where she goes back into her shell, waiting to be discovered instead of putting herself out there —and she wrote the book on it!</p><p>Lisa is clear about her mission to help others be seen and heard, and leaves listeners with this recommendation: Don't wait for others to give you opportunities, take them into your own hands, adding “celebrate your successes and don't tear down others for their achievements.”</p><p>A powerful conversation with a compelling guest. Happy listening!</p><p>*** </p><p>Selected links from episode: </p><p>You can find out more about Lisa at <a href="https://www.lisabragg.com/" target="_blank">LisaBragg.com</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/thatlisabragg/" target="_blank">@lisabragg</a> #braggingrights or on Facebook <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ThatLisaBragg/" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/ThatLisaBragg/</a></p><p>On LinkedIn<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisabragg" target="_blank"> https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisabragg</a></p><p>More about the book Bragging Rights here: <a href="https://www.lisabragg.com/book" target="_blank">https://www.lisabragg.com/book</a></p><p>Lisa's favorite book : <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_of_Green_Gables">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_of_Green_Gables</a></p><p>The song Lisa chose: I<a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/3IyCL4Em1GOpNGDf451Hg1?si=ceb2f489104f47fa" target="_blank">t Could Have Been Me, by the Struts</a></p><p>The Out of the Clouds Spotify compiled playlist:  <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=b19c18faa16a46b7" target="_blank">'The song that best represent me'</a></p><p>And her challenging climb of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelback_Mountain">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelback_Mountain</a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>There are serendipitous moments in life, particularly when two women who are equally passionate about storytelling and connection end up on a podcast together. In this episode, Anne Muhlethaler interviews author, advisor and self-professed hype woman Lisa Bragg. </p><p>Lisa starts by sharing her journey from TV news reporter to launching her business, MediaFace, in 2007, which pioneered what we now know as content for our digital world. She also offers thoughts on the challenges posed by growing up with Bragg as a last name. </p><p>That leads Anne to ask Lisa about the genesis for her book, “Bragging Rights,” as well as how she designed the research which underpins it. Lisa speaks about the importance of creating a safe environment for people to talk about their successes, either at home or at work, to support personal and professional growth. While some research out there advises women <i>not to brag </i>or celebrate their successes for fear of backlash, Lisa challenges the concept (and the research) and suggests that it’s time for us to change the culture and ‘sister up’.  </p><p>She goes on to explain how taking an inventory of our personal values can be one of many exercises to explore meaningful self-promotion, highlighting that we are all the “CEO of our own life.” </p><p>The two women discuss that while purposeful self-promotion is important, it’s often challenging. Anne admits to barely being able to name any of her successes, and Lisa responds that ‘she is her book,’ meaning that she, too, has times where she goes back into her shell, waiting to be discovered instead of putting herself out there —and she wrote the book on it!</p><p>Lisa is clear about her mission to help others be seen and heard, and leaves listeners with this recommendation: Don't wait for others to give you opportunities, take them into your own hands, adding “celebrate your successes and don't tear down others for their achievements.”</p><p>A powerful conversation with a compelling guest. Happy listening!</p><p>*** </p><p>Selected links from episode: </p><p>You can find out more about Lisa at <a href="https://www.lisabragg.com/" target="_blank">LisaBragg.com</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/thatlisabragg/" target="_blank">@lisabragg</a> #braggingrights or on Facebook <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ThatLisaBragg/" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/ThatLisaBragg/</a></p><p>On LinkedIn<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisabragg" target="_blank"> https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisabragg</a></p><p>More about the book Bragging Rights here: <a href="https://www.lisabragg.com/book" target="_blank">https://www.lisabragg.com/book</a></p><p>Lisa's favorite book : <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_of_Green_Gables">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_of_Green_Gables</a></p><p>The song Lisa chose: I<a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/3IyCL4Em1GOpNGDf451Hg1?si=ceb2f489104f47fa" target="_blank">t Could Have Been Me, by the Struts</a></p><p>The Out of the Clouds Spotify compiled playlist:  <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=b19c18faa16a46b7" target="_blank">'The song that best represent me'</a></p><p>And her challenging climb of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelback_Mountain">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelback_Mountain</a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Chris Schembra on emotional transformation through gratitude practice, serendipity and the power of storytelling</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2024 10:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, host Anne Mühlethaler speaks with Chris Schembra, a renowned facilitator, community builder and gratitude expert dedicated to transforming professional environments through the power of recognition, belonging and authentic connection. </p><p>As the author of two bestselling books, ”Gratitude Through Hard Times” and “Gratitude and Pasta,” Chris blends heartfelt storytelling with data-driven insights to deliver impactful keynote addresses and advisory services. His expertise has led him to collaborate with industry giants such as Google, Microsoft, IBM, Dell, and the U.S. Navy, among others. Recognized as a Founding Member of Rolling Stone Magazine's Culture Council and dubbed the "Gratitude Guru" by USA Today, Chris's work has sparked over 500,000 relationships within the workplace.</p><p>In their conversation, Chris shares with Anne his journey, starting with growing up by the water in South Carolina, his parents’ epic parties and his devastating subsequent loss of memory due to ADHD medication.</p><p>The two then talk about their love of Rome and how Chris was inspired by his own visit to host a Roman style dinner and gathering back home in New York City, for which he invented a pasta recipe. On July 15, 2015, Chris invited 15 friends into his 350-square-foot studio apartment.  Already an engaging event, magic happened when Chris asked one question of his guests that changed everything: “If you could give credit or thanks to one person in your life that you don't give enough credit or thanks to, or you've never thought to thank, who would that be?” </p><p>From there, Chris’ passion for fostering gratitude and meaningful conversations around the dinner table evolved into the creation of the 7:47 Gratitude Experience — so named for the time during that infamous evening that he asked his thought-provoking question. The program is an evidence-based framework designed to strengthen client and team relationships. Since 2020, his company has organised 402 virtual gratitude experiences, migrating to online during the pandemic.</p><p>Chris and Anne discuss the kind of gratitude practised at Chris’ events: not the self-reflective kind, but gratitude directed towards people. He was influenced to do this by the researcher Barbara Fredrickson, who proved in the broaden-and-build theory of positive emotion that gratitude has the ability to actually broaden your thought action repertoire needed for positive effect, making our brains more open for joy, contentment, play and connection. Chris' approach at 7:47 events is rooted in empathy and scientifically backed principles, prioritising creating cultures of appreciation and belonging within leading corporations worldwide.</p><p>The conversation takes many twists and turns because Chris is an epic storyteller. He and Anne talk about the importance of focus to succeed in business, with Chris quoting his friend Dave who advised him that ‘focus equals growth.’ Anne also asks Chris in-depth questions about his two books. Plus Chris honestly discusses some of the hardest times he’s experienced, including some serious incidents of non-suicidal self-harm.</p><p>Anne ends the podcast asking Chris first his signature question, then hers —  “What brings you happiness?" — which brings the two to discuss both hedonic and eudaimonic happiness.</p><p>To conclude, Chris advises listeners to go out and seek opportunities and that we can go and tell our stories, along with this important message: “Do not underestimate how powerful your story is.”</p><p>An inspired conversation with a heart-opening storyteller and community builder that will leave you moved. Happy listening!</p><p>*** </p><p><strong>Selected links from the episode</strong></p><p>Find more about Chris on  <a href="https://www.chrisschembra.com/">https://www.chrisschembra.com/</a></p><p><a href="http://747club.org/">747club.org</a></p><p>LinkedIn - Chris Schembra-<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/schembra/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/schembra/</a></p><p>Chris’ podcast Gratitude Through Hard Times - <a href="https://www.chrisschembra.com/podcast">https://www.chrisschembra.com/podcast</a></p><p>The producer Charles Wessler - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_B._Wessler">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_B._Wessler</a></p><p>Fiorello LaGuardia <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiorello_La_Guardia">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiorello_La_Guardia</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiorello!">Fiorello! the play Chris was working on in Rome</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditation_technique">Transcendental meditation </a></p><p><a href="https://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/">David Lynch Foundation </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Roth">Bob Roth</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vishen_Lakhiani">Vishen Luckyani</a></p><p><a href="https://www.aylanova.com/">Ayla Nova Yoga Nidra</a></p><p><a href="https://www.jonlevy.com/">John Levy’s Influencer Dinner Series </a></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLdMrH7D/">the TikTok from Hilton Head Island </a></p><p><a href="https://susandrumm.com/book/resources-lp/">Susan Drum, Leader’s Playlist - </a><a href="https://theleadersplaylistbook.com/">https://theleadersplaylistbook.com/</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Above_%26_Beyond_(band)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Above_%26_Beyond_(band)</a></p><p>Marty Seligman's <a href="https://www.positivepsych.edu.sg/">School of Positive Psychology</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendentalism">Transcendentalism</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8KXcIedur8">Gratitude by Above and Beyond</a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=8d22017ee95f48e4">The Spotify playlist from Out of the Clouds</a> guests’ answers to the question: what song best represents you? </p><p><a href="https://runawayhill.com/home/">Runaway Hill Hotel in the Bahamas</a></p><p><a href="https://positivepsychology.com/hedonic-vs-eudaimonic-wellbeing/">Hedonistic happiness</a> & Eudaimonic happiness</p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/7HL1zkJreBbbkSfeoYsyVc?si=Uvl6D8X3TciLsFESVKnR-A">Lisa Besterman on Chris’s podcast</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, host Anne Mühlethaler speaks with Chris Schembra, a renowned facilitator, community builder and gratitude expert dedicated to transforming professional environments through the power of recognition, belonging and authentic connection. </p><p>As the author of two bestselling books, ”Gratitude Through Hard Times” and “Gratitude and Pasta,” Chris blends heartfelt storytelling with data-driven insights to deliver impactful keynote addresses and advisory services. His expertise has led him to collaborate with industry giants such as Google, Microsoft, IBM, Dell, and the U.S. Navy, among others. Recognized as a Founding Member of Rolling Stone Magazine's Culture Council and dubbed the "Gratitude Guru" by USA Today, Chris's work has sparked over 500,000 relationships within the workplace.</p><p>In their conversation, Chris shares with Anne his journey, starting with growing up by the water in South Carolina, his parents’ epic parties and his devastating subsequent loss of memory due to ADHD medication.</p><p>The two then talk about their love of Rome and how Chris was inspired by his own visit to host a Roman style dinner and gathering back home in New York City, for which he invented a pasta recipe. On July 15, 2015, Chris invited 15 friends into his 350-square-foot studio apartment.  Already an engaging event, magic happened when Chris asked one question of his guests that changed everything: “If you could give credit or thanks to one person in your life that you don't give enough credit or thanks to, or you've never thought to thank, who would that be?” </p><p>From there, Chris’ passion for fostering gratitude and meaningful conversations around the dinner table evolved into the creation of the 7:47 Gratitude Experience — so named for the time during that infamous evening that he asked his thought-provoking question. The program is an evidence-based framework designed to strengthen client and team relationships. Since 2020, his company has organised 402 virtual gratitude experiences, migrating to online during the pandemic.</p><p>Chris and Anne discuss the kind of gratitude practised at Chris’ events: not the self-reflective kind, but gratitude directed towards people. He was influenced to do this by the researcher Barbara Fredrickson, who proved in the broaden-and-build theory of positive emotion that gratitude has the ability to actually broaden your thought action repertoire needed for positive effect, making our brains more open for joy, contentment, play and connection. Chris' approach at 7:47 events is rooted in empathy and scientifically backed principles, prioritising creating cultures of appreciation and belonging within leading corporations worldwide.</p><p>The conversation takes many twists and turns because Chris is an epic storyteller. He and Anne talk about the importance of focus to succeed in business, with Chris quoting his friend Dave who advised him that ‘focus equals growth.’ Anne also asks Chris in-depth questions about his two books. Plus Chris honestly discusses some of the hardest times he’s experienced, including some serious incidents of non-suicidal self-harm.</p><p>Anne ends the podcast asking Chris first his signature question, then hers —  “What brings you happiness?" — which brings the two to discuss both hedonic and eudaimonic happiness.</p><p>To conclude, Chris advises listeners to go out and seek opportunities and that we can go and tell our stories, along with this important message: “Do not underestimate how powerful your story is.”</p><p>An inspired conversation with a heart-opening storyteller and community builder that will leave you moved. Happy listening!</p><p>*** </p><p><strong>Selected links from the episode</strong></p><p>Find more about Chris on  <a href="https://www.chrisschembra.com/">https://www.chrisschembra.com/</a></p><p><a href="http://747club.org/">747club.org</a></p><p>LinkedIn - Chris Schembra-<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/schembra/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/schembra/</a></p><p>Chris’ podcast Gratitude Through Hard Times - <a href="https://www.chrisschembra.com/podcast">https://www.chrisschembra.com/podcast</a></p><p>The producer Charles Wessler - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_B._Wessler">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_B._Wessler</a></p><p>Fiorello LaGuardia <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiorello_La_Guardia">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiorello_La_Guardia</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiorello!">Fiorello! the play Chris was working on in Rome</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditation_technique">Transcendental meditation </a></p><p><a href="https://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/">David Lynch Foundation </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Roth">Bob Roth</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vishen_Lakhiani">Vishen Luckyani</a></p><p><a href="https://www.aylanova.com/">Ayla Nova Yoga Nidra</a></p><p><a href="https://www.jonlevy.com/">John Levy’s Influencer Dinner Series </a></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLdMrH7D/">the TikTok from Hilton Head Island </a></p><p><a href="https://susandrumm.com/book/resources-lp/">Susan Drum, Leader’s Playlist - </a><a href="https://theleadersplaylistbook.com/">https://theleadersplaylistbook.com/</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Above_%26_Beyond_(band)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Above_%26_Beyond_(band)</a></p><p>Marty Seligman's <a href="https://www.positivepsych.edu.sg/">School of Positive Psychology</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendentalism">Transcendentalism</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8KXcIedur8">Gratitude by Above and Beyond</a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=8d22017ee95f48e4">The Spotify playlist from Out of the Clouds</a> guests’ answers to the question: what song best represents you? </p><p><a href="https://runawayhill.com/home/">Runaway Hill Hotel in the Bahamas</a></p><p><a href="https://positivepsychology.com/hedonic-vs-eudaimonic-wellbeing/">Hedonistic happiness</a> & Eudaimonic happiness</p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/7HL1zkJreBbbkSfeoYsyVc?si=Uvl6D8X3TciLsFESVKnR-A">Lisa Besterman on Chris’s podcast</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this captivating instalment, listeners are invited to embark on a transformative journey as host Anne Muhlethaler interviews Caitlin Krause — a distinguished experience designer, learning expert, and author — as she shares her expertise on mindfulness, storytelling, and immersive technology. Caitlin currently teaches a course on "Digital Wellbeing: Healthy Relationships with Technology" at Stanford University, focused on developing mindful strategies for incorporating technology into life design in a way that meets our goals, our passions, our sense of purpose, and our overall well being. This is a transdisciplinary course that looks at the heart of what it means to be human in this day and age, integrating technology and paying attention to how we inform and navigate new terrain with a sense of presence and wonder.</p><p>Caitlin shares with Anne her remarkable journey and unwavering commitment to innovation and human-centred design. As the founder of MindWise, Caitlin has dedicated herself to igniting creativity and intention in individuals, leveraging mindfulness, storytelling, and design to foster meaningful connections with technology. With a background steeped in the arts and a decade of experience as an educator, Caitlin brings a unique blend of creativity and expertise to her work. </p><p>Throughout the episode, Caitlin reflects on pivotal moments in her life: a childhood fascination with the sea, embracing misbehaviour and play, her dream of becoming an astronaut and the profound influence of poetry. Drawing from her experiences living in Russia and the guidance of her grandfather and parents, Caitlin shares insights into her interdisciplinary approach to life and work, shaping her worldview and informing her groundbreaking contributions to the field.</p><p>Next Caitlin andAnne delve into the world of extended reality (XR), discussing the importance of creating safe spaces for exploration, setting intentions, and understanding the transformative potential of neuroplasticity. Through Caitlin's expertise and Anne's experiences in creating immersive XR environments, they uncover the profound connection between wonder, awe, and neuroplasticity, highlighting the power of imagination and presence in finding happiness.</p><p>Join Caitlin and Anne on a journey of discovery as they traverse the physical, imaginary and digital realms, seeking balance and intentionality in our collective exploration of immersive experiences. A warm and inspiring interview. Enjoy!</p><p>*** </p><p><strong>Selected links from episode: </strong></p><p>You can find Caitlin at <a href="https://caitlinkrause.com/">CaitlinKrause.com</a></p><p>or on LinkedIn <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/caitlinkrause/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/caitlinkrause/</a></p><p>And on Instagram</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_crab">Horseshoe crabs</a></p><p><a href="https://pz.harvard.edu/">Harvard Project Zero</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/outofedenwalk/?hl=en">Paul Salopek</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmonautics_Day">Yuri Gagarin day</a> is April 12th</p><p>What is an ROTC program - <a href="https://www.todaysmilitary.com/education-training/rotc-programs">https://www.todaysmilitary.com/education-training/rotc-programs</a></p><p>The artist Fabio Gianpietro that Anne mentions, <a href="https://fabiogiampietro.com/exhibitions/">2016 Hyperplanes of Simultaneity, Personale, Palazzo Reale, Milano</a></p><p><a href="https://www.blancali.com/en/home/">Blanca Li</a></p><p><a href="https://www.blancali.com/spectacle/le-bal-de-paris-de-blanca-li/">Le Bal de Paris</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey">The Hero’s Journey</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Campbell">Joseph Campbell</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Vogler">Christopher Vogler</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mihaly_Csikszentmihalyi">Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi</a> who wrote Flow</p><p><a href="https://www.ellenlanger.me/">Ellen Langer,</a> professor in the Psychology Department at Harvard University</p><p>The book <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_and_the_Purple_Crayon">Harold and the Purple Crayon</a></p><p>CZDGrL8v2fYPQ25aGqbJ</p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this captivating instalment, listeners are invited to embark on a transformative journey as host Anne Muhlethaler interviews Caitlin Krause — a distinguished experience designer, learning expert, and author — as she shares her expertise on mindfulness, storytelling, and immersive technology. Caitlin currently teaches a course on "Digital Wellbeing: Healthy Relationships with Technology" at Stanford University, focused on developing mindful strategies for incorporating technology into life design in a way that meets our goals, our passions, our sense of purpose, and our overall well being. This is a transdisciplinary course that looks at the heart of what it means to be human in this day and age, integrating technology and paying attention to how we inform and navigate new terrain with a sense of presence and wonder.</p><p>Caitlin shares with Anne her remarkable journey and unwavering commitment to innovation and human-centred design. As the founder of MindWise, Caitlin has dedicated herself to igniting creativity and intention in individuals, leveraging mindfulness, storytelling, and design to foster meaningful connections with technology. With a background steeped in the arts and a decade of experience as an educator, Caitlin brings a unique blend of creativity and expertise to her work. </p><p>Throughout the episode, Caitlin reflects on pivotal moments in her life: a childhood fascination with the sea, embracing misbehaviour and play, her dream of becoming an astronaut and the profound influence of poetry. Drawing from her experiences living in Russia and the guidance of her grandfather and parents, Caitlin shares insights into her interdisciplinary approach to life and work, shaping her worldview and informing her groundbreaking contributions to the field.</p><p>Next Caitlin andAnne delve into the world of extended reality (XR), discussing the importance of creating safe spaces for exploration, setting intentions, and understanding the transformative potential of neuroplasticity. Through Caitlin's expertise and Anne's experiences in creating immersive XR environments, they uncover the profound connection between wonder, awe, and neuroplasticity, highlighting the power of imagination and presence in finding happiness.</p><p>Join Caitlin and Anne on a journey of discovery as they traverse the physical, imaginary and digital realms, seeking balance and intentionality in our collective exploration of immersive experiences. A warm and inspiring interview. Enjoy!</p><p>*** </p><p><strong>Selected links from episode: </strong></p><p>You can find Caitlin at <a href="https://caitlinkrause.com/">CaitlinKrause.com</a></p><p>or on LinkedIn <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/caitlinkrause/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/caitlinkrause/</a></p><p>And on Instagram</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_crab">Horseshoe crabs</a></p><p><a href="https://pz.harvard.edu/">Harvard Project Zero</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/outofedenwalk/?hl=en">Paul Salopek</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmonautics_Day">Yuri Gagarin day</a> is April 12th</p><p>What is an ROTC program - <a href="https://www.todaysmilitary.com/education-training/rotc-programs">https://www.todaysmilitary.com/education-training/rotc-programs</a></p><p>The artist Fabio Gianpietro that Anne mentions, <a href="https://fabiogiampietro.com/exhibitions/">2016 Hyperplanes of Simultaneity, Personale, Palazzo Reale, Milano</a></p><p><a href="https://www.blancali.com/en/home/">Blanca Li</a></p><p><a href="https://www.blancali.com/spectacle/le-bal-de-paris-de-blanca-li/">Le Bal de Paris</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey">The Hero’s Journey</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Campbell">Joseph Campbell</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Vogler">Christopher Vogler</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mihaly_Csikszentmihalyi">Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi</a> who wrote Flow</p><p><a href="https://www.ellenlanger.me/">Ellen Langer,</a> professor in the Psychology Department at Harvard University</p><p>The book <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_and_the_Purple_Crayon">Harold and the Purple Crayon</a></p><p>CZDGrL8v2fYPQ25aGqbJ</p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Zubaida Bai on building bridges, dismantling gender barriers, and amplifying HER power</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Anne V Mühlethaler speaks with <a href="https://www.zubaidabai.com/">Zubaida Bai</a>, <a href="https://grameenfoundation.org/about-us/leadership/zubaida-bai">President and CEO of Grameen Foundation</a>, in this enlightening exchange. Zubaida is a social entrepreneur and women's health advocate, as well as the founder of ayzh, a social enterprise that designs vital hygiene and reproductive healthcare products to women and girls in resource-poor settings.</p><p>Zubaida Bai is a distinguished social entrepreneur and women's health advocate with over 18 years of experience in the social impact space. As the founder of ayzh®, a pioneering social enterprise based in India, Zubaida has dedicated herself to designing vital healthcare products that enhance the well-being of women and girls throughout their reproductive journeys. Prior to her tenure at Grameen Foundation, Zubaida served as the managing director of social ventures at CARE, further solidifying her reputation as a transformative leader in the field of global health and development.</p><p>Throughout her illustrious career, Zubaida has garnered numerous accolades for her visionary leadership and tireless commitment to social change. Recognized as a Young Global Leader by the World Economic Forum, a Maternal Health Champion by Ashoka, and a TED Fellow/Speaker, Zubaida's influence extends far beyond the realms of entrepreneurship and advocacy. She has been named a United Nations SDG 3 Pioneer by the United Nations Global Compact (UNGC), highlighting her instrumental role in advancing the Sustainable Development Goals. Additionally, Zubaida serves as a Visiting Social Innovator with Harvard University's Social Innovative Change Initiative (SICI) and sits on the Governing Body at SEMA (Shaping Equitable Market Access) for Reproductive Health.</p><p>Zubaida shares her remarkable journey from humble beginnings to becoming a trailblazer in the social sector. With unwavering dedication to empowering women and pioneering initiatives that address the unique needs of marginalised communities, Zubaida's insights offer invaluable lessons for listeners eager to make a positive difference in the world.</p><p>Zubaida then delves into the genesis of the Clean Birth Kit and her work at ayzh. She tells Anne about her role at the Grameen Foundation as well, and emphasises the crucial importance of investing in women’s power by dismantling gender barriers, with the goal of ending poverty.</p><p>She shares insights into fostering male champions, advocating for global support, and standing with the foundation’s founder, Dr. Muhammad Yunus, in his visionary quest to relegate poverty to the annals of history. Zubaida and Anne also explore the nuances of social entrepreneurship, empathy, imposter syndrome and the power of gratitude.</p><p>From her pioneering work in designing products for underserved populations to her impassioned plea for global solidarity in the fight against poverty, Zubaida's wisdom resonates deeply with audiences seeking to effect meaningful change in their own spheres of influence.</p><p>A moving interview with an inspirational leader. Happy listening! </p><p>***</p><p>You can find out more about Zubaida and her work on her website: <a href="https://www.zubaidabai.com/">https://www.zubaidabai.com/</a></p><p>Discover the work of the Grameen Foundation here: <a href="https://grameenfoundation.org/">https://grameenfoundation.org/</a></p><p>Donate to Grameen safely via this online link: <a href="https://grameenfoundation.org/take-action/donate">https://grameenfoundation.org/take-action/donate</a></p><p>Ayzh - <a href="https://www.ayzh.com/">https://www.ayzh.com/</a></p><p>A couple of Zubaida's favorite books: </p><p><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262547192/theres-nothing-micro-about-a-billion-women/">There is Nothing Micro about a Billion Women</a>, by Mary Ellen</p><p><a href="http://deepanarayan.com/book.html">Chup</a>, by Deepa Narayan</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Anne V Mühlethaler speaks with <a href="https://www.zubaidabai.com/">Zubaida Bai</a>, <a href="https://grameenfoundation.org/about-us/leadership/zubaida-bai">President and CEO of Grameen Foundation</a>, in this enlightening exchange. Zubaida is a social entrepreneur and women's health advocate, as well as the founder of ayzh, a social enterprise that designs vital hygiene and reproductive healthcare products to women and girls in resource-poor settings.</p><p>Zubaida Bai is a distinguished social entrepreneur and women's health advocate with over 18 years of experience in the social impact space. As the founder of ayzh®, a pioneering social enterprise based in India, Zubaida has dedicated herself to designing vital healthcare products that enhance the well-being of women and girls throughout their reproductive journeys. Prior to her tenure at Grameen Foundation, Zubaida served as the managing director of social ventures at CARE, further solidifying her reputation as a transformative leader in the field of global health and development.</p><p>Throughout her illustrious career, Zubaida has garnered numerous accolades for her visionary leadership and tireless commitment to social change. Recognized as a Young Global Leader by the World Economic Forum, a Maternal Health Champion by Ashoka, and a TED Fellow/Speaker, Zubaida's influence extends far beyond the realms of entrepreneurship and advocacy. She has been named a United Nations SDG 3 Pioneer by the United Nations Global Compact (UNGC), highlighting her instrumental role in advancing the Sustainable Development Goals. Additionally, Zubaida serves as a Visiting Social Innovator with Harvard University's Social Innovative Change Initiative (SICI) and sits on the Governing Body at SEMA (Shaping Equitable Market Access) for Reproductive Health.</p><p>Zubaida shares her remarkable journey from humble beginnings to becoming a trailblazer in the social sector. With unwavering dedication to empowering women and pioneering initiatives that address the unique needs of marginalised communities, Zubaida's insights offer invaluable lessons for listeners eager to make a positive difference in the world.</p><p>Zubaida then delves into the genesis of the Clean Birth Kit and her work at ayzh. She tells Anne about her role at the Grameen Foundation as well, and emphasises the crucial importance of investing in women’s power by dismantling gender barriers, with the goal of ending poverty.</p><p>She shares insights into fostering male champions, advocating for global support, and standing with the foundation’s founder, Dr. Muhammad Yunus, in his visionary quest to relegate poverty to the annals of history. Zubaida and Anne also explore the nuances of social entrepreneurship, empathy, imposter syndrome and the power of gratitude.</p><p>From her pioneering work in designing products for underserved populations to her impassioned plea for global solidarity in the fight against poverty, Zubaida's wisdom resonates deeply with audiences seeking to effect meaningful change in their own spheres of influence.</p><p>A moving interview with an inspirational leader. Happy listening! </p><p>***</p><p>You can find out more about Zubaida and her work on her website: <a href="https://www.zubaidabai.com/">https://www.zubaidabai.com/</a></p><p>Discover the work of the Grameen Foundation here: <a href="https://grameenfoundation.org/">https://grameenfoundation.org/</a></p><p>Donate to Grameen safely via this online link: <a href="https://grameenfoundation.org/take-action/donate">https://grameenfoundation.org/take-action/donate</a></p><p>Ayzh - <a href="https://www.ayzh.com/">https://www.ayzh.com/</a></p><p>A couple of Zubaida's favorite books: </p><p><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262547192/theres-nothing-micro-about-a-billion-women/">There is Nothing Micro about a Billion Women</a>, by Mary Ellen</p><p><a href="http://deepanarayan.com/book.html">Chup</a>, by Deepa Narayan</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Joan Hyman on her dharma, teaching around the world and designing the School of Yoga</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2024 18:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The dedicated yogi and founder of the Schoolof.yoga Joan Hyman discusses the foundation of her interest in yoga and her lifelong spiritual journey with Out of the Cloud’s host Anne V Mühlethaler. </p><p>First Joan shares her background growing up in Philadelphia and her journey into yoga, which she first encountered while pursuing a dance career. She discusses the importance of finding her voice as a teacher and the role of lineages and traditions in yoga. Joan also explains the yoga concept of Tapas and reaching the edge in one's practice. </p><p>Joan has built a following worldwide, as she’s been travelling to offer teacher training since 2010, and she reflects on the challenges and rewards of teaching internationally. She tells Anne about the creation of her Schoolof.yoga and her vision for its future, as well as her hopes for the future of yoga as a whole, including the importance of having great teachers continuing to teach and keep the lineage alive. </p><p>Joan also talks about her new 300h teacher training program, and how she came to collaborate with world-renowned teachers, including Lisa Walford, Annie Carpenter, and many others.Together they have developed a comprehensive curriculum that covers various aspects of yoga, including pranayama and how the practice changes along with the practitioner's age. </p><p>Joan also highlights the importance of incorporating healing modalities into yoga, such as trauma-informed practices. She explains how trauma affects the nervous system and emphasises the role of the parasympathetic nervous system in healing. </p><p>To end, Joan shares her favourite yoga sutra, Pradipaksha Bhavanam, which encourages replacing negative thoughts with positive ones. Wanting to end on the importance of slowing down and enjoying life, she also tells Anne about the impact of India on her spiritual journey and how travel has opened up her mind ‘like an umbrella’.</p><p>A warm and inspiring interview with a master teacher. Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from episode </p><p>You can find Joan on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/joanhymanschoolofyoga/?hl=en">@JoanHymanSchoolofyoga</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzumPlBLSnCKb2LbjhRZ8yA">On Youtube</a></p><p>Her yoga school is <a href="https://www.schoolof.yoga/about-school-of-yoga">Schoolof.Yoga</a></p><p>Her upcoming offerings including her Bali retreat are available here: <a href="https://www.schoolof.yoga/events">https://www.schoolof.yoga/events</a></p><p><a href="https://jivamuktiyoga.com/">Jivamukti Yoga</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/17/health/maty-ezraty-dead.html">Maty Ezraty</a></p><p><a href="https://walford.com/">Lisa Walford</a></p><p><a href="https://yoganga.com/" target="_blank">Marla Apt</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maricar-cristina-holopainen-3176645/?originalSubdomain=nz">Cristina Holopainen</a></p><p><a href="https://www.smartflowyoga.com/">Annie Carpenter</a></p><p><a href="https://yogaworks.com/">Yogaworks</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysore_style">Mysore Yoga</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abhyasa">Abhyasa</a></p><p><a href="https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/5365/tapas">Tapas </a></p><p><a href="https://www.yogajournal.com/poses/extended-triangle-pose/">Utthita Trikonasana</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_Sutras_of_Patanjali">The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali</a></p><p><a href="https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/5023/kriya-yoga">Krya yoga</a></p><p><a href="https://seanecorn.com/">Sean Corn</a></p><p><a href="https://jeanneheileman.com/">Jean Heileman</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K._Pattabhi_Jois">K. Pattabhi Jois</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tirumalai_Krishnamacharya">Krishnamacharya</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pranayama">Pranayama</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_on_Yoga">Light on Yoga</a> by BKS Iyengar</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagus_nerve">The Vagus nerve</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drishti_(yoga)">Drishti</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmW5Og4VBg8">Ali MacGraw and Eric Shiffman Yoga</a> video on Youtube</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viparita_Karani">Viparita Karani</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_nidra">Yoga Nidra</a> or yogic sleep</p><p>Pratipakshabhavanam, Joan's favorite yoga sutra  - 2. 33, when negative thoughts arise, think the opposite.</p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/7mjSHL2Eb0kAwiKbvNNyD9">Wild World</a> by Cat Stevens</p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=8eafaa05bfc0433a">The Out of the Clouds playlist</a> on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://untetheredsoul.com/surrender-experiment">The Surrender Experiment</a> by Michael Singer</p><p>*** </p><p><strong>Takeaways</strong></p><ul><li>Finding one's voice as a yoga teacher is an important aspect of teaching.</li><li>Lineages and traditions in yoga provide a foundation of proven practices that have been passed down over time.</li><li>Tapas, the willingness to endure and create a sense of purification, is an essential element of yoga practice.</li><li>Meditation is a valuable practice in yoga that can be challenging but ultimately rewarding.</li><li>Teaching yoga to different cultures requires adaptability and understanding of their unique needs and preferences.</li><li>The School of Yoga aims to preserve the lineage and provide high-quality teacher trainings.</li></ul><p>Chapters</p><p>00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest</p><p>03:02 Joan Hyman's Background and Journey</p><p>12:04 Finding Her Voice as a Teacher</p><p>17:46 Religion and Spirituality in Joan's Life</p><p>20:37 The Importance of Lineages and Traditions in Yoga</p><p>27:10 Understanding Tapas and Reaching the Edge in Yoga</p><p>30:41 Joan's Journey in Meditation</p><p>35:01 Teaching Yoga Around the World and the School of Yoga</p><p>44:18 Teaching Different Cultures and Adapting to Students</p><p>47:34 The Future of the School of Yoga and Yoga Itself</p><p>48:57 Cultivating Excellence in Yoga Education</p><p>52:20 Yoga for Healing and Trauma</p><p>55:46 Activating the Parasympathetic Nervous System</p><p>56:32 The Wholeness of Shavasana</p><p>59:00 Upcoming Trainings and Retreats</p><p>01:00:26 Favorite Yoga Sutra: Pradipaksha Bhavanam</p><p>01:01:52 Grounding Rituals: Cooking and Nature</p><p>01:02:51 Favorite Word: Adaptability</p><p>01:03:35 Connection as Source and Authenticity</p><p>01:04:03 Favorite Song: Wild World by Cat Stevens</p><p>01:04:32 Secret Superpower: Overcoming Drug Use</p><p>01:05:02 Favorite Book: The Surrender Experiment by Michael Singer</p><p>01:06:06 Impactful Place: India</p><p>01:06:34 Advice from Future Self: Slow Down and Enjoy Life</p><p>01:07:08 What Brings Happiness: Being Grounded and with Loved Ones</p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>The dedicated yogi and founder of the Schoolof.yoga Joan Hyman discusses the foundation of her interest in yoga and her lifelong spiritual journey with Out of the Cloud’s host Anne V Mühlethaler. </p><p>First Joan shares her background growing up in Philadelphia and her journey into yoga, which she first encountered while pursuing a dance career. She discusses the importance of finding her voice as a teacher and the role of lineages and traditions in yoga. Joan also explains the yoga concept of Tapas and reaching the edge in one's practice. </p><p>Joan has built a following worldwide, as she’s been travelling to offer teacher training since 2010, and she reflects on the challenges and rewards of teaching internationally. She tells Anne about the creation of her Schoolof.yoga and her vision for its future, as well as her hopes for the future of yoga as a whole, including the importance of having great teachers continuing to teach and keep the lineage alive. </p><p>Joan also talks about her new 300h teacher training program, and how she came to collaborate with world-renowned teachers, including Lisa Walford, Annie Carpenter, and many others.Together they have developed a comprehensive curriculum that covers various aspects of yoga, including pranayama and how the practice changes along with the practitioner's age. </p><p>Joan also highlights the importance of incorporating healing modalities into yoga, such as trauma-informed practices. She explains how trauma affects the nervous system and emphasises the role of the parasympathetic nervous system in healing. </p><p>To end, Joan shares her favourite yoga sutra, Pradipaksha Bhavanam, which encourages replacing negative thoughts with positive ones. Wanting to end on the importance of slowing down and enjoying life, she also tells Anne about the impact of India on her spiritual journey and how travel has opened up her mind ‘like an umbrella’.</p><p>A warm and inspiring interview with a master teacher. Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from episode </p><p>You can find Joan on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/joanhymanschoolofyoga/?hl=en">@JoanHymanSchoolofyoga</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzumPlBLSnCKb2LbjhRZ8yA">On Youtube</a></p><p>Her yoga school is <a href="https://www.schoolof.yoga/about-school-of-yoga">Schoolof.Yoga</a></p><p>Her upcoming offerings including her Bali retreat are available here: <a href="https://www.schoolof.yoga/events">https://www.schoolof.yoga/events</a></p><p><a href="https://jivamuktiyoga.com/">Jivamukti Yoga</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/17/health/maty-ezraty-dead.html">Maty Ezraty</a></p><p><a href="https://walford.com/">Lisa Walford</a></p><p><a href="https://yoganga.com/" target="_blank">Marla Apt</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maricar-cristina-holopainen-3176645/?originalSubdomain=nz">Cristina Holopainen</a></p><p><a href="https://www.smartflowyoga.com/">Annie Carpenter</a></p><p><a href="https://yogaworks.com/">Yogaworks</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysore_style">Mysore Yoga</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abhyasa">Abhyasa</a></p><p><a href="https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/5365/tapas">Tapas </a></p><p><a href="https://www.yogajournal.com/poses/extended-triangle-pose/">Utthita Trikonasana</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_Sutras_of_Patanjali">The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali</a></p><p><a href="https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/5023/kriya-yoga">Krya yoga</a></p><p><a href="https://seanecorn.com/">Sean Corn</a></p><p><a href="https://jeanneheileman.com/">Jean Heileman</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K._Pattabhi_Jois">K. Pattabhi Jois</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tirumalai_Krishnamacharya">Krishnamacharya</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pranayama">Pranayama</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_on_Yoga">Light on Yoga</a> by BKS Iyengar</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagus_nerve">The Vagus nerve</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drishti_(yoga)">Drishti</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmW5Og4VBg8">Ali MacGraw and Eric Shiffman Yoga</a> video on Youtube</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viparita_Karani">Viparita Karani</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_nidra">Yoga Nidra</a> or yogic sleep</p><p>Pratipakshabhavanam, Joan's favorite yoga sutra  - 2. 33, when negative thoughts arise, think the opposite.</p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/7mjSHL2Eb0kAwiKbvNNyD9">Wild World</a> by Cat Stevens</p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=8eafaa05bfc0433a">The Out of the Clouds playlist</a> on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://untetheredsoul.com/surrender-experiment">The Surrender Experiment</a> by Michael Singer</p><p>*** </p><p><strong>Takeaways</strong></p><ul><li>Finding one's voice as a yoga teacher is an important aspect of teaching.</li><li>Lineages and traditions in yoga provide a foundation of proven practices that have been passed down over time.</li><li>Tapas, the willingness to endure and create a sense of purification, is an essential element of yoga practice.</li><li>Meditation is a valuable practice in yoga that can be challenging but ultimately rewarding.</li><li>Teaching yoga to different cultures requires adaptability and understanding of their unique needs and preferences.</li><li>The School of Yoga aims to preserve the lineage and provide high-quality teacher trainings.</li></ul><p>Chapters</p><p>00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest</p><p>03:02 Joan Hyman's Background and Journey</p><p>12:04 Finding Her Voice as a Teacher</p><p>17:46 Religion and Spirituality in Joan's Life</p><p>20:37 The Importance of Lineages and Traditions in Yoga</p><p>27:10 Understanding Tapas and Reaching the Edge in Yoga</p><p>30:41 Joan's Journey in Meditation</p><p>35:01 Teaching Yoga Around the World and the School of Yoga</p><p>44:18 Teaching Different Cultures and Adapting to Students</p><p>47:34 The Future of the School of Yoga and Yoga Itself</p><p>48:57 Cultivating Excellence in Yoga Education</p><p>52:20 Yoga for Healing and Trauma</p><p>55:46 Activating the Parasympathetic Nervous System</p><p>56:32 The Wholeness of Shavasana</p><p>59:00 Upcoming Trainings and Retreats</p><p>01:00:26 Favorite Yoga Sutra: Pradipaksha Bhavanam</p><p>01:01:52 Grounding Rituals: Cooking and Nature</p><p>01:02:51 Favorite Word: Adaptability</p><p>01:03:35 Connection as Source and Authenticity</p><p>01:04:03 Favorite Song: Wild World by Cat Stevens</p><p>01:04:32 Secret Superpower: Overcoming Drug Use</p><p>01:05:02 Favorite Book: The Surrender Experiment by Michael Singer</p><p>01:06:06 Impactful Place: India</p><p>01:06:34 Advice from Future Self: Slow Down and Enjoy Life</p><p>01:07:08 What Brings Happiness: Being Grounded and with Loved Ones</p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, Sridevi Kalidindi CBE, or Sri, an experienced, multi-award winning, senior Consultant Psychiatrist and Leadership/Executive Coach, discusses her journey in the field of psychiatry and the importance of proactive mental health care. She tells host Anne Mühlethaler how she learned to become an advocate for the patients and communities she works for, emphasising the need for storytelling and narrative in communication. The two go on to discuss the impact of stress and burnout on mental health professionals in particular, as well as their own personal experiences of burnout. Sri shares how she became more conscious and proactive about her own wellbeing via the support of a coach.</p><p>Sri also tells Anne how she came to develop klipGlobal, a startup she founded with the goal of focusing on key life indicators to monitor workforce wellbeing through coaching, masterclasses and mindfulness practices to promote proactive employee support in the workplace. </p><p>Sri explains how she built the startup to allow individuals to track their own progress, as well asr for chief people officers to be able to monitor the general wellbeing of their teams. Sri tells Anne about how wellbeing can be pitched to businesses, emphasising the positive impact on employee engagement, productivity and retention. </p><p>Always interested in scientific data, Sri highlights the importance of case studies and leaning on evidence-based tools to demonstrate the return on investment in wellbeing programs. Sri also discusses her role as a National Clinical Lead for mental health rehabilitation in NHS England and the positive impact of her work in improving rehabilitation services across the country. </p><p>Anne asks Sri to talk about her personal meditation practice, and she goes on to speak about the power of finding joy within oneself. Their conversation concludes with Sri sharing her favourite word, the importance of connection and what brings her happiness.</p><p>A profound and insightful interview. Happy listening! </p><p>***</p><p>Find out more about Sri <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sridevi-kalidindi-cbe-b855272b/" target="_blank">on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.klipglobal.com/" target="_blank">Klip Global</a></p><p>You can also follow Klip on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/klip.global/" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/klip.global" target="_blank">Facebook</a> or <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/klip-global/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>.</p><p>To get in touch and ask for further information on Klip Global's programs, get in touch at <a href="mailto:hello@klipglobal.com">hello@klipglobal.com</a></p><p>Sri's choice of song <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR" target="_blank">'I believe in miracles'</a> by the Jackson Sisters</p><p>Sri's favorite book is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prophet_(book)" target="_blank">The Prophet, by Khalil Gibran.</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, Sridevi Kalidindi CBE, or Sri, an experienced, multi-award winning, senior Consultant Psychiatrist and Leadership/Executive Coach, discusses her journey in the field of psychiatry and the importance of proactive mental health care. She tells host Anne Mühlethaler how she learned to become an advocate for the patients and communities she works for, emphasising the need for storytelling and narrative in communication. The two go on to discuss the impact of stress and burnout on mental health professionals in particular, as well as their own personal experiences of burnout. Sri shares how she became more conscious and proactive about her own wellbeing via the support of a coach.</p><p>Sri also tells Anne how she came to develop klipGlobal, a startup she founded with the goal of focusing on key life indicators to monitor workforce wellbeing through coaching, masterclasses and mindfulness practices to promote proactive employee support in the workplace. </p><p>Sri explains how she built the startup to allow individuals to track their own progress, as well asr for chief people officers to be able to monitor the general wellbeing of their teams. Sri tells Anne about how wellbeing can be pitched to businesses, emphasising the positive impact on employee engagement, productivity and retention. </p><p>Always interested in scientific data, Sri highlights the importance of case studies and leaning on evidence-based tools to demonstrate the return on investment in wellbeing programs. Sri also discusses her role as a National Clinical Lead for mental health rehabilitation in NHS England and the positive impact of her work in improving rehabilitation services across the country. </p><p>Anne asks Sri to talk about her personal meditation practice, and she goes on to speak about the power of finding joy within oneself. Their conversation concludes with Sri sharing her favourite word, the importance of connection and what brings her happiness.</p><p>A profound and insightful interview. Happy listening! </p><p>***</p><p>Find out more about Sri <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sridevi-kalidindi-cbe-b855272b/" target="_blank">on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.klipglobal.com/" target="_blank">Klip Global</a></p><p>You can also follow Klip on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/klip.global/" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/klip.global" target="_blank">Facebook</a> or <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/klip-global/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>.</p><p>To get in touch and ask for further information on Klip Global's programs, get in touch at <a href="mailto:hello@klipglobal.com">hello@klipglobal.com</a></p><p>Sri's choice of song <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR" target="_blank">'I believe in miracles'</a> by the Jackson Sisters</p><p>Sri's favorite book is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prophet_(book)" target="_blank">The Prophet, by Khalil Gibran.</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Bridgitte Dempsey Klein on innovative natural skincare, bottling up the goodness of the sea and connecting to her roots</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler speaks to her friend, the beauty entrepreneur <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bridgitte-dempsey-klein-9565b912/">Bridgitte Dempsey Klein</a>, founder of French natural skincare brand <a href="https://www.yannewellness.com/en/home">Yanne Wellness</a>.  </p><p>In their conversation, Anne gets to ask Bridgitte to tell her about her journey from Toronto to London, where the two met thanks to their mutual friend Stephanie. Bridgitte shares about her love of travel, how important her French mother’s influence was on her, and how she moved from studying at the London School of Economics with diplomatic pursuits in mind before making a switch to work in retail, later landing in beauty PR and communication. </p><p>In a super pivot, Bridgitte shares how she left her role at Lancôme to set up Corbin, a bespoke fur business in Paris. The two explore Bridgitte’s experience in brand building, and creating unique pieces in the French capital, with all its savoir-faire and artisans, and how this has in turn informed her approach to Yanne Wellness. While she was establishing Corbin, Bridgitte also worked for her Canadian family’s business, The Dempsey Corporation. </p><p>The Franco-Canadian entrepreneur shares how she also drew inspiration from her grandmother for Corbin Paris, and later her mother, Yanne, whose influence can be felt at all levels of the new venture Yanne Wellness. Bridgitte also shares the stories of the several key moments that culminated in the pitch for this natural brand that combines innovative skincare and food supplement systems in what she calls a new kind of wellness.</p><p>Anne and Bridgitte also talk about authentic ingredients, the French spa culture, 'neo-thalassos', the future of beauty and how Bridgitte wants to bottle up the goodness of the sea to bring vitality and glowing skin to Yanne’s clientele. </p><p>A warm, inspiring and generous interview. Happy listening! </p><p>***</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode </strong></p><p>You can find Bridgitte on LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bridgitte-dempsey-klein-9565b912/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/bridgitte-dempsey-klein-9565b912/</a></p><p>Yanne Wellness - <a href="https://www.yannewellness.com/en/home">https://www.yannewellness.com/en/home</a></p><p>The Dempsey Corporation  - <a href="https://dempseycorporation.com/">https://dempseycorporation.com/</a></p><p>Thalasso, short for Thalassotherapy - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalassotherapy">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalassotherapy</a></p><p>A Suitable Boy, the novel - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Suitable_Boy">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Suitable_Boy</a></p><p>The Out of the Clouds Playlist - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=a9262de5dfce4449">https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=a9262de5dfce4449</a></p><p>including Bridgitte's chosen song <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/3AlUM4CsiOwVl5Gwxfgwcw?si=bb0729718a934f6a">'A Hard Headed Woman</a>', by Cat Stevens </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social">@annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler speaks to her friend, the beauty entrepreneur <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bridgitte-dempsey-klein-9565b912/">Bridgitte Dempsey Klein</a>, founder of French natural skincare brand <a href="https://www.yannewellness.com/en/home">Yanne Wellness</a>.  </p><p>In their conversation, Anne gets to ask Bridgitte to tell her about her journey from Toronto to London, where the two met thanks to their mutual friend Stephanie. Bridgitte shares about her love of travel, how important her French mother’s influence was on her, and how she moved from studying at the London School of Economics with diplomatic pursuits in mind before making a switch to work in retail, later landing in beauty PR and communication. </p><p>In a super pivot, Bridgitte shares how she left her role at Lancôme to set up Corbin, a bespoke fur business in Paris. The two explore Bridgitte’s experience in brand building, and creating unique pieces in the French capital, with all its savoir-faire and artisans, and how this has in turn informed her approach to Yanne Wellness. While she was establishing Corbin, Bridgitte also worked for her Canadian family’s business, The Dempsey Corporation. </p><p>The Franco-Canadian entrepreneur shares how she also drew inspiration from her grandmother for Corbin Paris, and later her mother, Yanne, whose influence can be felt at all levels of the new venture Yanne Wellness. Bridgitte also shares the stories of the several key moments that culminated in the pitch for this natural brand that combines innovative skincare and food supplement systems in what she calls a new kind of wellness.</p><p>Anne and Bridgitte also talk about authentic ingredients, the French spa culture, 'neo-thalassos', the future of beauty and how Bridgitte wants to bottle up the goodness of the sea to bring vitality and glowing skin to Yanne’s clientele. </p><p>A warm, inspiring and generous interview. Happy listening! </p><p>***</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode </strong></p><p>You can find Bridgitte on LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bridgitte-dempsey-klein-9565b912/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/bridgitte-dempsey-klein-9565b912/</a></p><p>Yanne Wellness - <a href="https://www.yannewellness.com/en/home">https://www.yannewellness.com/en/home</a></p><p>The Dempsey Corporation  - <a href="https://dempseycorporation.com/">https://dempseycorporation.com/</a></p><p>Thalasso, short for Thalassotherapy - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalassotherapy">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalassotherapy</a></p><p>A Suitable Boy, the novel - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Suitable_Boy">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Suitable_Boy</a></p><p>The Out of the Clouds Playlist - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=a9262de5dfce4449">https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=a9262de5dfce4449</a></p><p>including Bridgitte's chosen song <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/3AlUM4CsiOwVl5Gwxfgwcw?si=bb0729718a934f6a">'A Hard Headed Woman</a>', by Cat Stevens </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social">@annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Cath and Jeremy Brown on balanced partnerships, considered designs and Feldspar’s commitment to heritage crafts</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Cath and Jeremy Brown are the couple behind the beloved design brand Feldspar Studio (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/feldsparstudio/" target="_blank">@feldsparstudio</a>), known for its useful everyday items, made properly by the careful hands of master craftspeople in their two workshops in England. </p><p>The couple talk to Anne, who supported them early on as a consultant, about their early careers, how the two met (a very romantic story) and explain how they left London for Devon on a whim after Cath got pregnant with their first son, Milo. They also relay to Anne how they got their hand into ceramics and how, not much after, they decided to turn this creative experiment into a bona fide company. </p><p>Jeremy is used to wearing many different hats, with a background in art and design from Goldsmith’s College and an expertise in woodwork from an earlier time. He also worked for the UN and later the International Trade Center (part of WTO) with ethical and sustainable artisans workshops in remote communities. Meanwhile Cath went from the art world to architecture, building schools in her last job.</p><p>Both are obsessed with having total control over the design, production and packaging of their products, and the pair, balanced in their skill sets, explain how they split the work between themselves but ultimately make all their decisions together. </p><p>Their famously ‘wonky’ products are considered designs, as Cath explains, made mindfully for superior enjoyment — like the dimples in their coffee mugs or the perfect pour of their teapot. The two are equally excited at the idea to continue to grow the product range while committing to work with labour-intensive crafts that are currently endangered in the UK. </p><p>With the goal of continuing to make things by hand, the Feldspar duo offer a fresh approach to old materials, creating designs to outlive the owner — true objects for life. </p><p>Jeremy and Cath also tell Anne about the importance of regularly reevaluating their lifestyle as the company grows, so that they stay true to their priorities: spending time with each other and with their kids. </p><p>Cath then shares the story of her Neapolitan great-great-grandpa’s cookbook and chats to Anne about the studio’s upcoming collaborations with artist Tanya Ling. </p><p>The couple end by revealing their dream future for Felspar, a holistic experience which they jokingly describe as ‘Google, but for making things’. </p><p>A joyful and insightful conversation with an inspiring entrepreneurial duo. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode </strong></p><p><a href="https://feldspar.studio/pages/about">https://feldspar.studio/pages/about</a></p><p>Dartmoor - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmoor">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmoor</a></p><p>The Monmouth Coffee Company - <a href="https://www.monmouthcoffee.co.uk/">https://www.monmouthcoffee.co.uk/</a></p><p>Mint Gallery London - <a href="https://www.mintgallery.co.uk/">https://www.mintgallery.co.uk/</a></p><p>Alex Eagle Studio - <a href="https://alexeagle.com/">https://alexeagle.com/</a></p><p>Matches Fashion - <a href="https://www.matchesfashion.com/">https://www.matchesfashion.com/</a></p><p>The Conran Shop - <a href="https://www.conranshop.co.uk/">https://www.conranshop.co.uk/</a></p><p>Sir Terrence Conran - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_Conran">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_Conran</a></p><p>Stoke on Trent and pottery - <a href="https://www.tat-london.co.uk/post/the-potteries-of-stoke-on-trent">https://www.tat-london.co.uk/post/the-potteries-of-stoke-on-trent</a></p><p><a href="https://berdoulat.co.uk/">Berdoulat Interiors in Bath</a></p><p>The Canelé pastry that inspired the ceiling rose - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canel%C3%A9" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canel%C3%A9</a></p><p>The Feldspar x Berdoulat lampshade collaboration - <a href="https://feldspar.studio/collections/collaborations" target="_blank">https://feldspar.studio/collections/collaborations</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tanyaling.com/">Tanya Ling</a></p><p>The original Feldspar x Tanya Ling collaboration - <a href="https://feldspar.studio/blogs/news/feldspar-tanya-ling-studio" target="_blank">https://feldspar.studio/blogs/news/feldspar-tanya-ling-studi</a></p><p>Bagatelle board - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagatelle">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagatelle</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d388s231dqQ">The whole of the moon</a> by the Water Boys</p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social">@annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Cath and Jeremy Brown are the couple behind the beloved design brand Feldspar Studio (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/feldsparstudio/" target="_blank">@feldsparstudio</a>), known for its useful everyday items, made properly by the careful hands of master craftspeople in their two workshops in England. </p><p>The couple talk to Anne, who supported them early on as a consultant, about their early careers, how the two met (a very romantic story) and explain how they left London for Devon on a whim after Cath got pregnant with their first son, Milo. They also relay to Anne how they got their hand into ceramics and how, not much after, they decided to turn this creative experiment into a bona fide company. </p><p>Jeremy is used to wearing many different hats, with a background in art and design from Goldsmith’s College and an expertise in woodwork from an earlier time. He also worked for the UN and later the International Trade Center (part of WTO) with ethical and sustainable artisans workshops in remote communities. Meanwhile Cath went from the art world to architecture, building schools in her last job.</p><p>Both are obsessed with having total control over the design, production and packaging of their products, and the pair, balanced in their skill sets, explain how they split the work between themselves but ultimately make all their decisions together. </p><p>Their famously ‘wonky’ products are considered designs, as Cath explains, made mindfully for superior enjoyment — like the dimples in their coffee mugs or the perfect pour of their teapot. The two are equally excited at the idea to continue to grow the product range while committing to work with labour-intensive crafts that are currently endangered in the UK. </p><p>With the goal of continuing to make things by hand, the Feldspar duo offer a fresh approach to old materials, creating designs to outlive the owner — true objects for life. </p><p>Jeremy and Cath also tell Anne about the importance of regularly reevaluating their lifestyle as the company grows, so that they stay true to their priorities: spending time with each other and with their kids. </p><p>Cath then shares the story of her Neapolitan great-great-grandpa’s cookbook and chats to Anne about the studio’s upcoming collaborations with artist Tanya Ling. </p><p>The couple end by revealing their dream future for Felspar, a holistic experience which they jokingly describe as ‘Google, but for making things’. </p><p>A joyful and insightful conversation with an inspiring entrepreneurial duo. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode </strong></p><p><a href="https://feldspar.studio/pages/about">https://feldspar.studio/pages/about</a></p><p>Dartmoor - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmoor">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmoor</a></p><p>The Monmouth Coffee Company - <a href="https://www.monmouthcoffee.co.uk/">https://www.monmouthcoffee.co.uk/</a></p><p>Mint Gallery London - <a href="https://www.mintgallery.co.uk/">https://www.mintgallery.co.uk/</a></p><p>Alex Eagle Studio - <a href="https://alexeagle.com/">https://alexeagle.com/</a></p><p>Matches Fashion - <a href="https://www.matchesfashion.com/">https://www.matchesfashion.com/</a></p><p>The Conran Shop - <a href="https://www.conranshop.co.uk/">https://www.conranshop.co.uk/</a></p><p>Sir Terrence Conran - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_Conran">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_Conran</a></p><p>Stoke on Trent and pottery - <a href="https://www.tat-london.co.uk/post/the-potteries-of-stoke-on-trent">https://www.tat-london.co.uk/post/the-potteries-of-stoke-on-trent</a></p><p><a href="https://berdoulat.co.uk/">Berdoulat Interiors in Bath</a></p><p>The Canelé pastry that inspired the ceiling rose - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canel%C3%A9" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canel%C3%A9</a></p><p>The Feldspar x Berdoulat lampshade collaboration - <a href="https://feldspar.studio/collections/collaborations" target="_blank">https://feldspar.studio/collections/collaborations</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tanyaling.com/">Tanya Ling</a></p><p>The original Feldspar x Tanya Ling collaboration - <a href="https://feldspar.studio/blogs/news/feldspar-tanya-ling-studio" target="_blank">https://feldspar.studio/blogs/news/feldspar-tanya-ling-studi</a></p><p>Bagatelle board - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagatelle">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagatelle</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d388s231dqQ">The whole of the moon</a> by the Water Boys</p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social">@annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.rahshaanagreen.com/">Rahshaana Green</a> is a multidisciplinary wellness consultant who combines her knowledge and experience in science, yoga and building human connection to help people heal. She’s a Forrest Yoga Guardian and the Director of Equity and Contemplative Psychotherapy at the Nalanda Institute, where she directs and teaches within the Contemplative Psychotherapy Programs.</p><p>In their conversation, Rahshaana tells Anne about being a curious kid, a high performer and voracious reader who used books as windows into other worlds. She talks about how she learned the power of agency from her mother, who taught her and her siblings, with a ‘scared-straight’ approach, how to make choices to take life into the direction they intended. The oldest of four, Rahshaana admits that her choices were also a potential blueprint for her siblings, and how a desire to influence them positively led her to pursue an early career in science. </p><p>After receiving her BA in Biophysical Chemistry from Dartmouth College and an MBA from The University of Texas at Austin, Rahshaana talks about how she combined her passion for science and business skills, which led her to pursue a fifteen-year career in Marketing and Business Development for medical device and life science companies.</p><p>Rahshaana then explains how an accident directed her towards yoga — <a href="https://www.forrest.yoga/">Forrest Yoga </a>specifically. Able to heal herself through this practice, she tells Anne how she made the choice to certify as a teacher and with the support of an amazing manager was able to do so in parallel to her career. She continued to pursue a personal study in meditation, mindfulness and compassion practices to deepen her own growth and to empower others to cultivate well-being and resilience.</p><p>Reaching the present, Anne asks Rahshaana to talk through her journey that led her to the Nalanda Institute in Contemplative Science (which is, incidentally, how the two became acquainted). Rahshaana talks in depth about the programs she teaches in <a href="https://nalandainstitute.org/compassion-based-resilience-training-cbrt-teacher-training/">Compassion-Based Resilience Training</a> (CBRT). And who needs to explore CBRT? Probably everyone, according to her, because, as we can probably all attest, ‘human-ing’ is hard. </p><p>To conclude, the pair discusses how the power of compassion and mindfulness combined can help people access emotions, including difficult emotions, and become resilient to feelings like discomfort. And they talk about the importance of intimacy — a word that can describe the connection we can hope to have with the body — as a form of ultimate intelligence. </p><p>A profound and inspiring conversation. Happy listening!</p><p>*** </p><p>Selected Links from Episode</p><p>You can find Rahshaana via her website - <a href="https://www.rahshaanagreen.com/">https://www.rahshaanagreen.com/</a></p><p>On Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/rahshaana.green">https://www.facebook.com/rahshaana.green</a></p><p>On Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/rahshaanag/">https://www.instagram.com/rahshaanag/</a></p><p>and on LinkedIn -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rahshaana-green-71aa164"> https://www.linkedin.com/in/rahshaana-green-71aa164</a></p><p>The Nanlanda  Institute for Contemplative Science - <a href="https://nalandainstitute.org/">https://nalandainstitute.org/</a></p><p>Compassion-Based Resilience Training - <a href="https://nalandainstitute.org/compassion-based-resilience-training/">https://nalandainstitute.org/compassion-based-resilience-training/</a></p><p>Forrest Yoga - <a href="https://forrest.yoga/">https://forrest.yoga/</a></p><p>Listen to Rahshaana on Wonderstruck with Elizabeth Rovere - <a href="https://youtu.be/CgeTd79UEIU?si=BWtBwj__KZUFrd-O">https://youtu.be/CgeTd79UEIU?si=BWtBwj__KZUFrd-O</a></p><p>Rev. angel Kyodo williams - <a href="https://revangel.com/">https://revangel.com/</a></p><p>The song I Want A Little Sugar In My Bowl by Nina Simone - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/3NcJu9876GBJuNU6vJOrbb?si=528cf781c02b42dc">https://open.spotify.com/track/3NcJu9876GBJuNU6vJOrbb?si=528cf781c02b42dc</a></p><p>The book Song of Increase by Jacqueline Freeman - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Song-Increase-Listening-Honeybees-Beekeeping/dp/1622037448">https://www.amazon.com/Song-Increase-Listening-Honeybees-Beekeeping/dp/1622037448</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social">@annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.rahshaanagreen.com/">Rahshaana Green</a> is a multidisciplinary wellness consultant who combines her knowledge and experience in science, yoga and building human connection to help people heal. She’s a Forrest Yoga Guardian and the Director of Equity and Contemplative Psychotherapy at the Nalanda Institute, where she directs and teaches within the Contemplative Psychotherapy Programs.</p><p>In their conversation, Rahshaana tells Anne about being a curious kid, a high performer and voracious reader who used books as windows into other worlds. She talks about how she learned the power of agency from her mother, who taught her and her siblings, with a ‘scared-straight’ approach, how to make choices to take life into the direction they intended. The oldest of four, Rahshaana admits that her choices were also a potential blueprint for her siblings, and how a desire to influence them positively led her to pursue an early career in science. </p><p>After receiving her BA in Biophysical Chemistry from Dartmouth College and an MBA from The University of Texas at Austin, Rahshaana talks about how she combined her passion for science and business skills, which led her to pursue a fifteen-year career in Marketing and Business Development for medical device and life science companies.</p><p>Rahshaana then explains how an accident directed her towards yoga — <a href="https://www.forrest.yoga/">Forrest Yoga </a>specifically. Able to heal herself through this practice, she tells Anne how she made the choice to certify as a teacher and with the support of an amazing manager was able to do so in parallel to her career. She continued to pursue a personal study in meditation, mindfulness and compassion practices to deepen her own growth and to empower others to cultivate well-being and resilience.</p><p>Reaching the present, Anne asks Rahshaana to talk through her journey that led her to the Nalanda Institute in Contemplative Science (which is, incidentally, how the two became acquainted). Rahshaana talks in depth about the programs she teaches in <a href="https://nalandainstitute.org/compassion-based-resilience-training-cbrt-teacher-training/">Compassion-Based Resilience Training</a> (CBRT). And who needs to explore CBRT? Probably everyone, according to her, because, as we can probably all attest, ‘human-ing’ is hard. </p><p>To conclude, the pair discusses how the power of compassion and mindfulness combined can help people access emotions, including difficult emotions, and become resilient to feelings like discomfort. And they talk about the importance of intimacy — a word that can describe the connection we can hope to have with the body — as a form of ultimate intelligence. </p><p>A profound and inspiring conversation. Happy listening!</p><p>*** </p><p>Selected Links from Episode</p><p>You can find Rahshaana via her website - <a href="https://www.rahshaanagreen.com/">https://www.rahshaanagreen.com/</a></p><p>On Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/rahshaana.green">https://www.facebook.com/rahshaana.green</a></p><p>On Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/rahshaanag/">https://www.instagram.com/rahshaanag/</a></p><p>and on LinkedIn -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rahshaana-green-71aa164"> https://www.linkedin.com/in/rahshaana-green-71aa164</a></p><p>The Nanlanda  Institute for Contemplative Science - <a href="https://nalandainstitute.org/">https://nalandainstitute.org/</a></p><p>Compassion-Based Resilience Training - <a href="https://nalandainstitute.org/compassion-based-resilience-training/">https://nalandainstitute.org/compassion-based-resilience-training/</a></p><p>Forrest Yoga - <a href="https://forrest.yoga/">https://forrest.yoga/</a></p><p>Listen to Rahshaana on Wonderstruck with Elizabeth Rovere - <a href="https://youtu.be/CgeTd79UEIU?si=BWtBwj__KZUFrd-O">https://youtu.be/CgeTd79UEIU?si=BWtBwj__KZUFrd-O</a></p><p>Rev. angel Kyodo williams - <a href="https://revangel.com/">https://revangel.com/</a></p><p>The song I Want A Little Sugar In My Bowl by Nina Simone - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/3NcJu9876GBJuNU6vJOrbb?si=528cf781c02b42dc">https://open.spotify.com/track/3NcJu9876GBJuNU6vJOrbb?si=528cf781c02b42dc</a></p><p>The book Song of Increase by Jacqueline Freeman - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Song-Increase-Listening-Honeybees-Beekeeping/dp/1622037448">https://www.amazon.com/Song-Increase-Listening-Honeybees-Beekeeping/dp/1622037448</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social">@annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Etienne Salborn is the founder of <a href="https://socialinnovationacademy.org/">SINA</a> (the Social Innovation Academy), a talent campus in Uganda. He also serves as a lecturer for social entrepreneurship at the Management Center Innsbruck and the ESCP Business School, resource person for the Asian Productivity Organization and facilitator for the ChangemakerXchange. His expertise and leadership have earned him recognition as an “AACSB Influential Leader 2021” and he was named an Innovation <a href="https://d-lab.mit.edu/innovation-practice/innovation-ecosystem-builder-fellows-2018">Ecosystem Builder Fellow by MIT D-lab</a> in 2018.</p><p>The Berlin-born social entrepreneur has had quite the life journey since taking off for Uganda at age 18 for a volunteering community service (an option to eschew the German military service). In his conversation with Anne, he tells her about how he set up his first and then second non-profit organisations after he found his life’s mission: to support the empowerment of marginalised youth in rural Uganda. </p><p>We discuss his very special master’s program in Austria, called Peace, Development, Security and International Conflict Transformation, and how it led him into a journey of self-discovery and experiential learning (which included simulation of a conflict war zone as well as mindfulness, meditation and contemplation on Austria’s mountains in minus 27 degree Celsius).</p><p>Etienne explains how SINA came to be, what three pillars underpin the project and how young students, or SINA scholars, are onboarded and grow their roles within the community, built as a self-organised system that runs on what the concept of ‘freesponsibility’ (freedom + responsibility). </p><p>With people living and working in the community, Etienne explains how they have used models from Nonviolent Communication, holacracy, and his master’s program facilitation tools to help navigate change, conflict and feedback — something of a challenge in a flat structure of 60+ individuals. </p><p>SINA’s goal is to help young people unleash their potential, create their own change and build their own social enterprises. Etienne shares how SINA has grown into a replicable model, building a new generation of social entrepreneurs who are solving challenges for society and the environment. With more than 12 communities across Uganda and other African countries, Etienne talks about what’s next, how we can support, engage with and even visit SINA, and why we should all explore the power of community. </p><p>A unique interview with a thoughtful and impact-driven changemaker. Enjoy!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode </strong></p><p>Find out more about SINA on their website : <a href="https://socialinnovationacademy.org/" target="_blank">https://socialinnovationacademy.org/</a></p><p>And more about Etienne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/etiennesalborn/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/etiennesalborn/</a></p><p>MCI, the Entrepreneurial School in Innsbruck, Austria - <a href="https://www.mci.edu/en/" target="_blank">https://www.mci.edu/en/</a></p><p>Find out about the masters Etienne studied at the University of Innsbruck - <a href="https://www.uibk.ac.at/peacestudies/ma-program/index.html.en">https://www.uibk.ac.at/peacestudies/ma-program/index.html.en</a></p><p>More about UPeace, the UN's University for Peace - <a href="https://www.upeace.org/" target="_blank">https://www.upeace.org/</a></p><p>The book Reinventing Organisations by Frederic Lalou: <a href="https://www.reinventingorganizations.com/" target="_blank">https://www.reinventingorganizations.com/</a></p><p>Chapter One, the book by Daniel Flynn - <a href="https://au.shop.thankyou.co/products/chapter-one-book" target="_blank">https://au.shop.thankyou.co/products/chapter-one-book</a></p><p>You can support SINA by purchasing products made by some of the social entrepreneur scholars retailing on Amazon:</p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08W4DPMNF" target="_blank">Ouroots natural drinking straws</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0BJ8WGLRX/" target="_blank">Totya Platform oven gloves produced by survivors of sexual violence</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0BJZKWF82" target="_blank">Clothing pegs from recycled plastic produced in the Bidibidi Refugee Settlement </a></p><p>And here's Etienne's musical answer to the question 'what song best represents you/': <a href="https://open.spotify.com/intl-de/album/4WEWvXqZWhSKZRqWJ6lhDG" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/intl-de/album/4WEWvXqZWhSKZRqWJ6lhDG</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Etienne Salborn is the founder of <a href="https://socialinnovationacademy.org/">SINA</a> (the Social Innovation Academy), a talent campus in Uganda. He also serves as a lecturer for social entrepreneurship at the Management Center Innsbruck and the ESCP Business School, resource person for the Asian Productivity Organization and facilitator for the ChangemakerXchange. His expertise and leadership have earned him recognition as an “AACSB Influential Leader 2021” and he was named an Innovation <a href="https://d-lab.mit.edu/innovation-practice/innovation-ecosystem-builder-fellows-2018">Ecosystem Builder Fellow by MIT D-lab</a> in 2018.</p><p>The Berlin-born social entrepreneur has had quite the life journey since taking off for Uganda at age 18 for a volunteering community service (an option to eschew the German military service). In his conversation with Anne, he tells her about how he set up his first and then second non-profit organisations after he found his life’s mission: to support the empowerment of marginalised youth in rural Uganda. </p><p>We discuss his very special master’s program in Austria, called Peace, Development, Security and International Conflict Transformation, and how it led him into a journey of self-discovery and experiential learning (which included simulation of a conflict war zone as well as mindfulness, meditation and contemplation on Austria’s mountains in minus 27 degree Celsius).</p><p>Etienne explains how SINA came to be, what three pillars underpin the project and how young students, or SINA scholars, are onboarded and grow their roles within the community, built as a self-organised system that runs on what the concept of ‘freesponsibility’ (freedom + responsibility). </p><p>With people living and working in the community, Etienne explains how they have used models from Nonviolent Communication, holacracy, and his master’s program facilitation tools to help navigate change, conflict and feedback — something of a challenge in a flat structure of 60+ individuals. </p><p>SINA’s goal is to help young people unleash their potential, create their own change and build their own social enterprises. Etienne shares how SINA has grown into a replicable model, building a new generation of social entrepreneurs who are solving challenges for society and the environment. With more than 12 communities across Uganda and other African countries, Etienne talks about what’s next, how we can support, engage with and even visit SINA, and why we should all explore the power of community. </p><p>A unique interview with a thoughtful and impact-driven changemaker. Enjoy!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode </strong></p><p>Find out more about SINA on their website : <a href="https://socialinnovationacademy.org/" target="_blank">https://socialinnovationacademy.org/</a></p><p>And more about Etienne on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/etiennesalborn/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/etiennesalborn/</a></p><p>MCI, the Entrepreneurial School in Innsbruck, Austria - <a href="https://www.mci.edu/en/" target="_blank">https://www.mci.edu/en/</a></p><p>Find out about the masters Etienne studied at the University of Innsbruck - <a href="https://www.uibk.ac.at/peacestudies/ma-program/index.html.en">https://www.uibk.ac.at/peacestudies/ma-program/index.html.en</a></p><p>More about UPeace, the UN's University for Peace - <a href="https://www.upeace.org/" target="_blank">https://www.upeace.org/</a></p><p>The book Reinventing Organisations by Frederic Lalou: <a href="https://www.reinventingorganizations.com/" target="_blank">https://www.reinventingorganizations.com/</a></p><p>Chapter One, the book by Daniel Flynn - <a href="https://au.shop.thankyou.co/products/chapter-one-book" target="_blank">https://au.shop.thankyou.co/products/chapter-one-book</a></p><p>You can support SINA by purchasing products made by some of the social entrepreneur scholars retailing on Amazon:</p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08W4DPMNF" target="_blank">Ouroots natural drinking straws</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0BJ8WGLRX/" target="_blank">Totya Platform oven gloves produced by survivors of sexual violence</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0BJZKWF82" target="_blank">Clothing pegs from recycled plastic produced in the Bidibidi Refugee Settlement </a></p><p>And here's Etienne's musical answer to the question 'what song best represents you/': <a href="https://open.spotify.com/intl-de/album/4WEWvXqZWhSKZRqWJ6lhDG" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/intl-de/album/4WEWvXqZWhSKZRqWJ6lhDG</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? 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And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Anaïs Sagesser is an impact-driven educational entrepreneur, learning designer, teacher and coach. Anaïs co-founded the non-profit Scaling4Good, she co-creates pioneering leadership development programs with the University of St Gallen, and was recently elected as a member for the scientific advisory board for transdisciplinarity at the Swiss Academies of Sciences. She also offers mindfulness and compassion practices in English and German on Insight Timer.  </p><p>Broadly speaking, Anaïs is dedicated to societal transformation through personal transformation, social equity and systems change.</p><p>In this interview, Anaïs tells Anne about how a trip abroad at age 15 opened up her perspective as to how a human life could unfold. She also shares the twists and turns that led her to study many different subjects, from business to comparative religious and Islamic studies, before landing herself a job in management consulting. </p><p>She talks about seeking to serve and contribute to society, and how she went from her consulting role in business engineering and enterprise architecture to her involvement in the climate crisis response, becoming Swiss director and co-leader of Climate-KIC, the largest public-private partnership to foster innovation and entrepreneurship for climate change mitigation and adaptation.</p><p>Anaïs also shares how she went on to leave Climate-KIC to co-found the non-profit Scaling4Good, which aims to connect impact initiatives and institutions who are trying to do good to enable greater and faster systems change.</p><p>As Anne and Anaïs are both coaches and mindfulness and yoga teachers, they discuss the modalities of coaching, the search for meaning and purpose and how we all have this innate desire to do something good. Anaïs writes regularly on the topics of values and leadership, and offers her thoughts about the disconnection between individual and collectively held values. </p><p>Anaïs also shares with Anne her favourite tips to connect with nature, culminating with the question: <i>Who are you that I am also, and who am I that you are too?</i></p><p>A deep and insightful interview with a remarkable changemaker. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from episode :</p><p>You can find out more about Anaïs on LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anaissaegesser/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anaissaegesser/</a></p><p>Wikipedia (German) - <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana%C3%AFs_S%C3%A4gesser">https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana%C3%AFs_S%C3%A4gesser</a></p><p>and meditate with her (again in English and German) on Insight Timer - <a href="https://insighttimer.com/anaissaegesser">https://insighttimer.com/anaissaegesser</a></p><p>Find out more about Scaling4Good - <a href="https://scaling4good.com/">https://scaling4good.com/</a></p><p>And the course in Regenerative Leadership Anaïs co-leads for the University of St. Gallen - <a href="https://es.unisg.ch/en/executive-programme/regenerative-leadership/">https://es.unisg.ch/en/executive-programme/regenerative-leadership/</a> and a blog post she wrote about it- <a href="https://csi.unisg.ch/en/teaching/regenerative-leadership/">https://csi.unisg.ch/en/teaching/regenerative-leadership/</a></p><p>Loving Kindness or Mettā meditation (Maitri in Sanskrit) - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitr%C4%AB">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitr%C4%AB</a></p><p>Sivananda - <a href="https://sivananda.org/">https://sivananda.org/</a></p><p>Caring Economics by Tania Singer and Matthieu Ricard with a foreword by his holiness the Dalai Lama - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Caring-Economics-Conversations-Compassion-Scientists/dp/1250064120">https://www.amazon.com/Caring-Economics-Conversations-Compassion-Scientists/dp/1250064120</a></p><p>Tania Singer - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tania_Singer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tania_Singer</a></p><p>Climate Kick - <a href="https://www.climate-kic.org/">https://www.climate-kic.org/</a></p><p>Mahadevi Yoga Centre in London - <a href="https://mahadevicentre.com/">https://mahadevicentre.com/</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Anaïs Sagesser is an impact-driven educational entrepreneur, learning designer, teacher and coach. Anaïs co-founded the non-profit Scaling4Good, she co-creates pioneering leadership development programs with the University of St Gallen, and was recently elected as a member for the scientific advisory board for transdisciplinarity at the Swiss Academies of Sciences. She also offers mindfulness and compassion practices in English and German on Insight Timer.  </p><p>Broadly speaking, Anaïs is dedicated to societal transformation through personal transformation, social equity and systems change.</p><p>In this interview, Anaïs tells Anne about how a trip abroad at age 15 opened up her perspective as to how a human life could unfold. She also shares the twists and turns that led her to study many different subjects, from business to comparative religious and Islamic studies, before landing herself a job in management consulting. </p><p>She talks about seeking to serve and contribute to society, and how she went from her consulting role in business engineering and enterprise architecture to her involvement in the climate crisis response, becoming Swiss director and co-leader of Climate-KIC, the largest public-private partnership to foster innovation and entrepreneurship for climate change mitigation and adaptation.</p><p>Anaïs also shares how she went on to leave Climate-KIC to co-found the non-profit Scaling4Good, which aims to connect impact initiatives and institutions who are trying to do good to enable greater and faster systems change.</p><p>As Anne and Anaïs are both coaches and mindfulness and yoga teachers, they discuss the modalities of coaching, the search for meaning and purpose and how we all have this innate desire to do something good. Anaïs writes regularly on the topics of values and leadership, and offers her thoughts about the disconnection between individual and collectively held values. </p><p>Anaïs also shares with Anne her favourite tips to connect with nature, culminating with the question: <i>Who are you that I am also, and who am I that you are too?</i></p><p>A deep and insightful interview with a remarkable changemaker. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from episode :</p><p>You can find out more about Anaïs on LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anaissaegesser/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anaissaegesser/</a></p><p>Wikipedia (German) - <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana%C3%AFs_S%C3%A4gesser">https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana%C3%AFs_S%C3%A4gesser</a></p><p>and meditate with her (again in English and German) on Insight Timer - <a href="https://insighttimer.com/anaissaegesser">https://insighttimer.com/anaissaegesser</a></p><p>Find out more about Scaling4Good - <a href="https://scaling4good.com/">https://scaling4good.com/</a></p><p>And the course in Regenerative Leadership Anaïs co-leads for the University of St. Gallen - <a href="https://es.unisg.ch/en/executive-programme/regenerative-leadership/">https://es.unisg.ch/en/executive-programme/regenerative-leadership/</a> and a blog post she wrote about it- <a href="https://csi.unisg.ch/en/teaching/regenerative-leadership/">https://csi.unisg.ch/en/teaching/regenerative-leadership/</a></p><p>Loving Kindness or Mettā meditation (Maitri in Sanskrit) - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitr%C4%AB">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitr%C4%AB</a></p><p>Sivananda - <a href="https://sivananda.org/">https://sivananda.org/</a></p><p>Caring Economics by Tania Singer and Matthieu Ricard with a foreword by his holiness the Dalai Lama - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Caring-Economics-Conversations-Compassion-Scientists/dp/1250064120">https://www.amazon.com/Caring-Economics-Conversations-Compassion-Scientists/dp/1250064120</a></p><p>Tania Singer - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tania_Singer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tania_Singer</a></p><p>Climate Kick - <a href="https://www.climate-kic.org/">https://www.climate-kic.org/</a></p><p>Mahadevi Yoga Centre in London - <a href="https://mahadevicentre.com/">https://mahadevicentre.com/</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Gemma Colao is the co-founder and creative director of OTO (which rhymes with ‘photo’), a UK brand that was created to answer her desire to share the wonder of CBD with as many people as possible through luxurious products and meaningful experiences.</p><p>Gemma first talks to Anne about her fashion career, as a knitwear designer, and how she was drawn to design and ready-to-wear, inspired by her artist grandmother’s bold bohemian style. She started her career with an internship at DKNY, and after graduating from Central St Martins, Gemma worked for the likes of Clements Ribeiro before turning to Esprit and Marks & Spencers, among others. </p><p>Gemma explains how she jumped on the opportunity to move to the US thanks to her husband. She tells Anne how the pace combined with the workload from her design job took a toll on her and how, sleep-deprived, she was battling anxiety and burnout — that is, until she found CBD. After a colleague made the suggestion to give it a try, Gemma shares what a revelation (or revolution, perhaps) this was for her. Thankfully, she felt the effects of CBD quickly, improving first the quality of her sleep, which in turn lessened her anxiety. This of course had a huge impact on the quality of her life. </p><p>Inspired as she was by the possibilities offered by CBD, Gemma recounts how she and her husband then set out to open the first legal online dispensary in California. Later on, the couple returned to the UK to find that the quality of CBD products offered in that market was much lower, so Gemma explains how she saw this as an opportunity and that’s when they decided to create OTO. </p><p>Anne herself admits knowing very little about CBD, so the two talk about the nitty gritty of what makes OTO CBD products effective and why they are formulated to feel luxurious but are also backed by science. Gemma shares her vision to build a brand that people can trust, and one that focuses on efficacy as well as experiences and moments, whether from the brand’s sleep drops, skincare or their new spa products and beverages (OTO made the first CBD bitters in the world). Anne also asks Gemma to speak <a href="https://femtechinsider.com/oto-acquires-south-west-brands/">to OTO’s recent acquisition of the wellness group South West Brands </a>and how she hopes that the newly formed OTO Group becomes a portfolio of global female-focused wellness brands. </p><p>Finally, the two exchange on their rituals, gratitude, journaling practises and what keeps Gemma grounded and balanced day to day, busy as she is with OTO and her two little boys at home. </p><p>A rich and engaging interview with a highly creative entrepreneur. Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p>You can find out more about Gemma and OTO at OTO CBD -<a href="https://otocbd.com/"> https://otocbd.com/</a></p><p>If you are in the US at <a href="https://us.otowellbeing.com/">https://us.otowellbeing.com/</a></p><p>Connect with Gemma on LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gemma-colao/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/gemma-colao/</a></p><p>And you can follow the brand on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/oto_wellbeing/">https://www.instagram.com/oto_wellbeing/</a></p><p>Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/otowellbeing">https://www.facebook.com/otowellbeing</a></p><p>TikTok - <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@oto_wellbeing">https://www.tiktok.com/@oto_wellbeing</a></p><p>Youtube - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@oto_wellbeing">https://www.youtube.com/@oto_wellbeing</a></p><p>And LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/otowellbeing/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/otowellbeing/</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Gemma Colao is the co-founder and creative director of OTO (which rhymes with ‘photo’), a UK brand that was created to answer her desire to share the wonder of CBD with as many people as possible through luxurious products and meaningful experiences.</p><p>Gemma first talks to Anne about her fashion career, as a knitwear designer, and how she was drawn to design and ready-to-wear, inspired by her artist grandmother’s bold bohemian style. She started her career with an internship at DKNY, and after graduating from Central St Martins, Gemma worked for the likes of Clements Ribeiro before turning to Esprit and Marks & Spencers, among others. </p><p>Gemma explains how she jumped on the opportunity to move to the US thanks to her husband. She tells Anne how the pace combined with the workload from her design job took a toll on her and how, sleep-deprived, she was battling anxiety and burnout — that is, until she found CBD. After a colleague made the suggestion to give it a try, Gemma shares what a revelation (or revolution, perhaps) this was for her. Thankfully, she felt the effects of CBD quickly, improving first the quality of her sleep, which in turn lessened her anxiety. This of course had a huge impact on the quality of her life. </p><p>Inspired as she was by the possibilities offered by CBD, Gemma recounts how she and her husband then set out to open the first legal online dispensary in California. Later on, the couple returned to the UK to find that the quality of CBD products offered in that market was much lower, so Gemma explains how she saw this as an opportunity and that’s when they decided to create OTO. </p><p>Anne herself admits knowing very little about CBD, so the two talk about the nitty gritty of what makes OTO CBD products effective and why they are formulated to feel luxurious but are also backed by science. Gemma shares her vision to build a brand that people can trust, and one that focuses on efficacy as well as experiences and moments, whether from the brand’s sleep drops, skincare or their new spa products and beverages (OTO made the first CBD bitters in the world). Anne also asks Gemma to speak <a href="https://femtechinsider.com/oto-acquires-south-west-brands/">to OTO’s recent acquisition of the wellness group South West Brands </a>and how she hopes that the newly formed OTO Group becomes a portfolio of global female-focused wellness brands. </p><p>Finally, the two exchange on their rituals, gratitude, journaling practises and what keeps Gemma grounded and balanced day to day, busy as she is with OTO and her two little boys at home. </p><p>A rich and engaging interview with a highly creative entrepreneur. Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p>You can find out more about Gemma and OTO at OTO CBD -<a href="https://otocbd.com/"> https://otocbd.com/</a></p><p>If you are in the US at <a href="https://us.otowellbeing.com/">https://us.otowellbeing.com/</a></p><p>Connect with Gemma on LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gemma-colao/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/gemma-colao/</a></p><p>And you can follow the brand on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/oto_wellbeing/">https://www.instagram.com/oto_wellbeing/</a></p><p>Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/otowellbeing">https://www.facebook.com/otowellbeing</a></p><p>TikTok - <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@oto_wellbeing">https://www.tiktok.com/@oto_wellbeing</a></p><p>Youtube - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@oto_wellbeing">https://www.youtube.com/@oto_wellbeing</a></p><p>And LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/otowellbeing/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/otowellbeing/</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Deep Kailey (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/iamdeepkailey/">@IamDeepKailey</a>) is a creative director, consultant and the artistic director of ‘Without Shape Without Form’ (WSWF), an interactive travelling exhibition that bridges the gap between art, spirituality and mental health, approached from the lens of Sikh wisdom. </p><p>Prior to that, Deep held roles at Dazed and Confused, with Kim Jones and at Vogue India, and at one time was the fashion director for Tatler magazine. </p><p>It’s in the context of fashion that Anne Muhlethaler, host of OOTC, became acquainted with Deep, when she was starting out as fashion editor for Vogue India in London. </p><p>In this conversation, the two start with a tale of Deep asking herself ‘the big questions’ as a girl, after the passing of her mother. They talk about her journey through art school, fashion, how she found her way to Dazed and Confused, under Nichola Formichetti, and later her work as managing director for designer Kim Jones, who’s now at Dior and Fendi, respectively, as head of mens and womenswear. </p><p>They move on to cover the story of how Deep found herself reconnecting with her Sikh roots in her late twenties, and she explains the meaning of the ‘game’ and the work of Simran, the focused practise for the mind (which sounds like but isn’t the same as meditation) that guided her to discover her own purpose and self-alignment. </p><p>After cultivating this spiritual practise for many years, Deep has been working with a team of volunteers on WSWF, first an exhibition and now turned arts organisation, which offers visitors an experience that bridges the gap between art, spirituality and mental health. The project is meant to transcend cultural, social and racial barriers, and explores its subjects through Sikh teachings, bringing them into a contemporary context. </p><p>Anne and Deep also discuss personal values, the dark power of gossip, the meaning of connection (and its opposite), and compare metaphors of inner landscapes and inner abodes, self-concept and safety. </p><p>A very spiritual, resourced and open conversation. Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p>You can find Deep via her website <a href="https://deepkailey.com/">https://deepkailey.com/</a></p><p>On Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/iamdeepkailey/">https://www.instagram.com/iamdeepkailey/</a></p><p>Without Shape Without Form - <a href="https://www.withoutshapewithoutform.com/">https://www.withoutshapewithoutform.com/</a></p><p>Simran - <a href="https://www.withoutshapewithoutform.com/simran-1">https://www.withoutshapewithoutform.com/simran-1</a></p><p>Sikhi - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism</a></p><p>Dazed & Confused - <a href="https://www.dazeddigital.com/">https://www.dazeddigital.com/</a></p><p>Nicola Formichetti - <a href="http://www.nicolaformichetti.com/about">http://www.nicolaformichetti.com/about</a></p><p>Kim Jones - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Jones_(designer)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Jones_(designer)</a></p><p>Anna Harvey - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Harvey">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Harvey</a></p><p>Vogue India - <a href="https://www.vogue.in/">https://www.vogue.in/</a></p><p>Bandana Tewari - <a href="https://www.businessoffashion.com/community/people/bandana-tewari">https://www.businessoffashion.com/community/people/bandana-tewari</a></p><p>Condé Nast - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cond%C3%A9_Nast">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cond%C3%A9_Nast</a></p><p>Tatler Magazine - <a href="https://www.tatler.com/">https://www.tatler.com/</a></p><p>Kate Reardon - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Reardon">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Reardon</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru_Granth_Sahib">The Guru Grant Sahib Ji</a>, the holy book of scriptures</p><p>Deep's Gurdwara is the <a href="https://www.gmggurdwara.com/">Guru Maneyo Granth Gurdwara</a> in Slough, U.K.</p><p>The song/kirtan she chose is ਪਿਛਲੇਅਉਗੁਣਬਖਸਿਲਏਪ੍ਰਭੁਆਗੈਮਾਰਗਿਪਾਵੈ।।੨।।</p><p>or : pishhalae aougun bakhas leae prabh aagai maarag paavai ||2||</p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Deep Kailey (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/iamdeepkailey/">@IamDeepKailey</a>) is a creative director, consultant and the artistic director of ‘Without Shape Without Form’ (WSWF), an interactive travelling exhibition that bridges the gap between art, spirituality and mental health, approached from the lens of Sikh wisdom. </p><p>Prior to that, Deep held roles at Dazed and Confused, with Kim Jones and at Vogue India, and at one time was the fashion director for Tatler magazine. </p><p>It’s in the context of fashion that Anne Muhlethaler, host of OOTC, became acquainted with Deep, when she was starting out as fashion editor for Vogue India in London. </p><p>In this conversation, the two start with a tale of Deep asking herself ‘the big questions’ as a girl, after the passing of her mother. They talk about her journey through art school, fashion, how she found her way to Dazed and Confused, under Nichola Formichetti, and later her work as managing director for designer Kim Jones, who’s now at Dior and Fendi, respectively, as head of mens and womenswear. </p><p>They move on to cover the story of how Deep found herself reconnecting with her Sikh roots in her late twenties, and she explains the meaning of the ‘game’ and the work of Simran, the focused practise for the mind (which sounds like but isn’t the same as meditation) that guided her to discover her own purpose and self-alignment. </p><p>After cultivating this spiritual practise for many years, Deep has been working with a team of volunteers on WSWF, first an exhibition and now turned arts organisation, which offers visitors an experience that bridges the gap between art, spirituality and mental health. The project is meant to transcend cultural, social and racial barriers, and explores its subjects through Sikh teachings, bringing them into a contemporary context. </p><p>Anne and Deep also discuss personal values, the dark power of gossip, the meaning of connection (and its opposite), and compare metaphors of inner landscapes and inner abodes, self-concept and safety. </p><p>A very spiritual, resourced and open conversation. Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p>You can find Deep via her website <a href="https://deepkailey.com/">https://deepkailey.com/</a></p><p>On Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/iamdeepkailey/">https://www.instagram.com/iamdeepkailey/</a></p><p>Without Shape Without Form - <a href="https://www.withoutshapewithoutform.com/">https://www.withoutshapewithoutform.com/</a></p><p>Simran - <a href="https://www.withoutshapewithoutform.com/simran-1">https://www.withoutshapewithoutform.com/simran-1</a></p><p>Sikhi - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism</a></p><p>Dazed & Confused - <a href="https://www.dazeddigital.com/">https://www.dazeddigital.com/</a></p><p>Nicola Formichetti - <a href="http://www.nicolaformichetti.com/about">http://www.nicolaformichetti.com/about</a></p><p>Kim Jones - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Jones_(designer)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Jones_(designer)</a></p><p>Anna Harvey - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Harvey">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Harvey</a></p><p>Vogue India - <a href="https://www.vogue.in/">https://www.vogue.in/</a></p><p>Bandana Tewari - <a href="https://www.businessoffashion.com/community/people/bandana-tewari">https://www.businessoffashion.com/community/people/bandana-tewari</a></p><p>Condé Nast - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cond%C3%A9_Nast">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cond%C3%A9_Nast</a></p><p>Tatler Magazine - <a href="https://www.tatler.com/">https://www.tatler.com/</a></p><p>Kate Reardon - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Reardon">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Reardon</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru_Granth_Sahib">The Guru Grant Sahib Ji</a>, the holy book of scriptures</p><p>Deep's Gurdwara is the <a href="https://www.gmggurdwara.com/">Guru Maneyo Granth Gurdwara</a> in Slough, U.K.</p><p>The song/kirtan she chose is ਪਿਛਲੇਅਉਗੁਣਬਖਸਿਲਏਪ੍ਰਭੁਆਗੈਮਾਰਗਿਪਾਵੈ।।੨।।</p><p>or : pishhalae aougun bakhas leae prabh aagai maarag paavai ||2||</p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Kamil Tyebally is the founder of Early Spring NYC, a company that works at the crossroads between events, culture, connection and marketing, to create immersive brand events.</p><p>Kamil’s is an unusual story, and he starts by telling Anne how he went from Singapore to Myanmar to Thailand in his teens, and how he first discovered that life experience could match academic performance. </p><p>His early passion for taking pictures led him to follow a path in photo-journalism in NYC at first, and Kamil explains about how his father sparked his adventurous spirit, which led him to meet his future self in Mexico City and develop two book projects that took him to Algiers (Algeria) and later to Baghdad (Iraq).</p><p>Coming back to NYC, Kamil landed in marketing and business development. But, he tells Anne how he was set on getting a job at the innovative Fake Love company. This mission took him on a journey to explore culture, connection, technology and empathy — where, at the end, he found himself as the co-creative for immersive experiential events at Fake Love. </p><p>Kamil’s artistic leanings and his keenness to find what makes people tick is neatly encompassed when he talks with Anne about creating value beyond transaction and sparking moments of connections at his events. Kamil launched his company, Early Spring, just before the start of the pandemic with the objective (and the tagline) of ‘engineering serendipity’ — which he describes as finding what people need before they even know they need it themselves. </p><p>The two close the conversation by discussing vulnerability, instinct and finding a connection to their roots. A wide-ranging and fascinating interview with a thoughtful entrepreneur. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from episode </p><p>You can find Kamil on LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kamiltyebally/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/kamiltyebally/</a></p><p>on Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nyiskillingme/">https://www.instagram.com/nyiskillingme/</a></p><p>His company website is <a href="https://earlyspring.nyc/">https://earlyspring.nyc/</a></p><p>His personal website is - <a href="http://www.nyiskillingme.com/">http://www.nyiskillingme.com/</a></p><p>Fake Love - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/fake-love/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/fake-love/</a></p><p>Refinery 29 - <a href="https://www.refinery29.com/en-us">https://www.refinery29.com/</a></p><p>29 Rooms by Refinery 29 - <a href="https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/29rooms">https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/29rooms</a></p><p>The Shwedagon Pagoda in Yangon - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shwedagon_Pagoda">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shwedagon_Pagoda</a></p><p>The School of Visual Arts in NYC - <a href="https://sva.edu/">https://sva.edu/</a></p><p>Algiers, the Algerian capital - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algiers">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algiers</a></p><p>L'Usage du monde, the book by Nicholas Bouvier - <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Usage_du_monde">https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Usage_du_monde</a></p><p>and in English<a href="https://www.amazon.com/World-York-Review-Books-Classics/dp/1590173228/ref=sr_1_1?crid=K4N3I0XHSX2R&keywords=nicholas+bouvier&qid=1678392477&sprefix=nicholas+bouvier%2Caps%2C161&sr=8-1"> 'The Way of the World' </a></p><p>The Stranger, book by Albert Camus - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stranger_(Camus_novel)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stranger_(Camus_novel)</a></p><p>The song New  York is Killing Me by Gill Scott Heron - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiuorrXsngM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiuorrXsngM</a></p><p>Amritsar in Punjab - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amritsar">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amritsar</a></p><p>An Era of Darkness, the book by Shashi Taroor - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32618967-an-era-of-darkness">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32618967-an-era-of-darkness</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Kamil Tyebally is the founder of Early Spring NYC, a company that works at the crossroads between events, culture, connection and marketing, to create immersive brand events.</p><p>Kamil’s is an unusual story, and he starts by telling Anne how he went from Singapore to Myanmar to Thailand in his teens, and how he first discovered that life experience could match academic performance. </p><p>His early passion for taking pictures led him to follow a path in photo-journalism in NYC at first, and Kamil explains about how his father sparked his adventurous spirit, which led him to meet his future self in Mexico City and develop two book projects that took him to Algiers (Algeria) and later to Baghdad (Iraq).</p><p>Coming back to NYC, Kamil landed in marketing and business development. But, he tells Anne how he was set on getting a job at the innovative Fake Love company. This mission took him on a journey to explore culture, connection, technology and empathy — where, at the end, he found himself as the co-creative for immersive experiential events at Fake Love. </p><p>Kamil’s artistic leanings and his keenness to find what makes people tick is neatly encompassed when he talks with Anne about creating value beyond transaction and sparking moments of connections at his events. Kamil launched his company, Early Spring, just before the start of the pandemic with the objective (and the tagline) of ‘engineering serendipity’ — which he describes as finding what people need before they even know they need it themselves. </p><p>The two close the conversation by discussing vulnerability, instinct and finding a connection to their roots. A wide-ranging and fascinating interview with a thoughtful entrepreneur. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from episode </p><p>You can find Kamil on LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kamiltyebally/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/kamiltyebally/</a></p><p>on Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nyiskillingme/">https://www.instagram.com/nyiskillingme/</a></p><p>His company website is <a href="https://earlyspring.nyc/">https://earlyspring.nyc/</a></p><p>His personal website is - <a href="http://www.nyiskillingme.com/">http://www.nyiskillingme.com/</a></p><p>Fake Love - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/fake-love/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/fake-love/</a></p><p>Refinery 29 - <a href="https://www.refinery29.com/en-us">https://www.refinery29.com/</a></p><p>29 Rooms by Refinery 29 - <a href="https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/29rooms">https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/29rooms</a></p><p>The Shwedagon Pagoda in Yangon - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shwedagon_Pagoda">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shwedagon_Pagoda</a></p><p>The School of Visual Arts in NYC - <a href="https://sva.edu/">https://sva.edu/</a></p><p>Algiers, the Algerian capital - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algiers">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algiers</a></p><p>L'Usage du monde, the book by Nicholas Bouvier - <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Usage_du_monde">https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Usage_du_monde</a></p><p>and in English<a href="https://www.amazon.com/World-York-Review-Books-Classics/dp/1590173228/ref=sr_1_1?crid=K4N3I0XHSX2R&keywords=nicholas+bouvier&qid=1678392477&sprefix=nicholas+bouvier%2Caps%2C161&sr=8-1"> 'The Way of the World' </a></p><p>The Stranger, book by Albert Camus - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stranger_(Camus_novel)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stranger_(Camus_novel)</a></p><p>The song New  York is Killing Me by Gill Scott Heron - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiuorrXsngM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiuorrXsngM</a></p><p>Amritsar in Punjab - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amritsar">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amritsar</a></p><p>An Era of Darkness, the book by Shashi Taroor - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32618967-an-era-of-darkness">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32618967-an-era-of-darkness</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Tal Zur on the language of crochet, trust and creating social impact through design</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2023 17:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Tal Zur is a trained industrial designer who lectures at the Holon Institute of Technology. She is also the co-founder of Iota Project, a Tel Aviv-based lifestyle start-up with the goal to create social impact through design. At the core of this enterprise is an ancient technology, or rather, a technique: crochet.</p><p>In this interview, Tal talks to Anne about how she came to study industrial design, curatorship and patisserie (an eclectic combination), how she chose to move away from working in fashion and, while she was considering the next steps in her career, how she had a serendipitous connection with her co-founder, Shula Mozes, the one to brainstorm the idea of crochet as the basis for their social mission. </p><p>Tal explains how industrial design is like a methodology and how she became inclined to approach crochet in a modern way, all the while drawing on old Greek doilies as inspiration. As she tells it, crochet can be communicated and replicated like one could a piece of music, and that’s how Iota Project is able to share design drawings with women and collaborate with skilled communities over several countries. </p><p>Anne and Tal also discuss the meaning and importance of slow design, and how Iota Project aims to create sustainable social impact by being a platform for change, which includes putting the opportunity in the hands of the consumers, designers, architects and other entities that will engage with their products. </p><p>The two finish by talking about how Tal approaches her life as a mother (of three!) while being an entrepreneur, the importance of trust and not micromanaging when working remotely, and how teaching in front of design students twice a week is a bubble that keeps her feeling creatively connected. </p><p>A very inspiring interview with a compelling and fascinating woman. Enjoy! </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>You can find more about Iota Project and Tal at <a href="https://iotaproject.com/about/">https://iotaproject.com/</a></p><p>as well as connect with them on Facebook -<a href="https://www.facebook.com/iotahandstitched/"> https://www.facebook.com/iotahandstitched/</a></p><p>and Instagram -<a href="https://www.facebook.com/iotahandstitched/"> https://www.facebook.com/iotahandstitched/</a></p><p>And you can find Tal on LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tal-zur-4b17a434/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/tal-zur-4b17a434/</a></p><p>Hulon Institute of Technology - <a href="https://www.hit.ac.il/en">https://www.hit.ac.il/en</a></p><p>Il Camino de Santiago - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camino_de_Santiago">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camino_de_Santiago</a></p><p>The ICA Museum in Boston - <a href="https://www.icaboston.org/visit">https://www.icaboston.org/visit</a></p><p>The exhibition Fiber Sculpture from 1960 until today - <a href="https://www.icaboston.org/exhibitions/fiber-sculpture-1960%E2%80%93present">https://www.icaboston.org/exhibitions/fiber-sculpture-1960%E2%80%93present</a></p><p>Jaipur Rugs - <a href="https://www.jaipurrugs.com/">https://www.jaipurrugs.com/</a></p><p>The current range of swings by Iota Project -<a href="https://iotaproject.com/?s=swing"> https://iotaproject.com/?s=swing</a></p><p>The Peugeot x Iota Project collaboration - <a href="https://iotaproject.com/blog/peugeot-automotive-2016-2017-2/">https://iotaproject.com/blog/peugeot-automotive-2016-2017-2/</a></p><p>Her book of choice is the History of Love by Nicole Krauss - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_History_of_Love">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_History_of_Love</a></p><p>Tal's choice of song is Blackbird by the Beatles - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Man4Xw8Xypo">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Man4Xw8Xypo</a></p><p>The playlist from Out of the Clouds - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=07e38d1790614665">https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=07e38d1790614665</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Tal Zur is a trained industrial designer who lectures at the Holon Institute of Technology. She is also the co-founder of Iota Project, a Tel Aviv-based lifestyle start-up with the goal to create social impact through design. At the core of this enterprise is an ancient technology, or rather, a technique: crochet.</p><p>In this interview, Tal talks to Anne about how she came to study industrial design, curatorship and patisserie (an eclectic combination), how she chose to move away from working in fashion and, while she was considering the next steps in her career, how she had a serendipitous connection with her co-founder, Shula Mozes, the one to brainstorm the idea of crochet as the basis for their social mission. </p><p>Tal explains how industrial design is like a methodology and how she became inclined to approach crochet in a modern way, all the while drawing on old Greek doilies as inspiration. As she tells it, crochet can be communicated and replicated like one could a piece of music, and that’s how Iota Project is able to share design drawings with women and collaborate with skilled communities over several countries. </p><p>Anne and Tal also discuss the meaning and importance of slow design, and how Iota Project aims to create sustainable social impact by being a platform for change, which includes putting the opportunity in the hands of the consumers, designers, architects and other entities that will engage with their products. </p><p>The two finish by talking about how Tal approaches her life as a mother (of three!) while being an entrepreneur, the importance of trust and not micromanaging when working remotely, and how teaching in front of design students twice a week is a bubble that keeps her feeling creatively connected. </p><p>A very inspiring interview with a compelling and fascinating woman. Enjoy! </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>You can find more about Iota Project and Tal at <a href="https://iotaproject.com/about/">https://iotaproject.com/</a></p><p>as well as connect with them on Facebook -<a href="https://www.facebook.com/iotahandstitched/"> https://www.facebook.com/iotahandstitched/</a></p><p>and Instagram -<a href="https://www.facebook.com/iotahandstitched/"> https://www.facebook.com/iotahandstitched/</a></p><p>And you can find Tal on LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tal-zur-4b17a434/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/tal-zur-4b17a434/</a></p><p>Hulon Institute of Technology - <a href="https://www.hit.ac.il/en">https://www.hit.ac.il/en</a></p><p>Il Camino de Santiago - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camino_de_Santiago">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camino_de_Santiago</a></p><p>The ICA Museum in Boston - <a href="https://www.icaboston.org/visit">https://www.icaboston.org/visit</a></p><p>The exhibition Fiber Sculpture from 1960 until today - <a href="https://www.icaboston.org/exhibitions/fiber-sculpture-1960%E2%80%93present">https://www.icaboston.org/exhibitions/fiber-sculpture-1960%E2%80%93present</a></p><p>Jaipur Rugs - <a href="https://www.jaipurrugs.com/">https://www.jaipurrugs.com/</a></p><p>The current range of swings by Iota Project -<a href="https://iotaproject.com/?s=swing"> https://iotaproject.com/?s=swing</a></p><p>The Peugeot x Iota Project collaboration - <a href="https://iotaproject.com/blog/peugeot-automotive-2016-2017-2/">https://iotaproject.com/blog/peugeot-automotive-2016-2017-2/</a></p><p>Her book of choice is the History of Love by Nicole Krauss - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_History_of_Love">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_History_of_Love</a></p><p>Tal's choice of song is Blackbird by the Beatles - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Man4Xw8Xypo">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Man4Xw8Xypo</a></p><p>The playlist from Out of the Clouds - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=07e38d1790614665">https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=07e38d1790614665</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Cécile Duranton on positivity, hope and Time for the Planet</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Cécile Duranton is the managing director of Time for the Planet, a trail-blazing non-profit citizen fund detecting and financing climate change innovations.</p><p>Before joining Time for the Planet, Cécile trained as an agronomy engineer, as she is passionate about nature, animals, agriculture and food systems. </p><p>The young French woman tells Anne how she left home at 14 to attend a specialist highschool to continue to ride and train horses, and later to intern in the UK and in Vietnam. Cécile thrived in her travels, and shares how she discovered that bonds can be formed even when one doesn’t speak the local language (though clearly she loves trying). As a business developer for different French companies, she has worked extensively across South East Asia. Living the expat lifestyle, Cécile discusses why she chose to learn new languages — to better understand the culture and build strong relationships and an international network at the same time. </p><p>Cécile explains how she chose to study in Brazil, and later in New Zealand, and how she ended up turning from the engineering side to the business development side of the industry, changing the arc of her career. She also tells Anne how she got involved in sustainability and, in particular, climate change before making it her first mission. </p><p>Cécile designs and executes the international strategy of Time for the Planet, so Anne asks her about the mission of the business, how they inspire action in citizens, how they built their model to have maximum impact, why they have a low threshold to entry (you can become a shareholder for as little as 1 euro) and how changing their communication around climate change transformed their business from doom-inaction model to one charged with hope, energy and powering individual action. </p><p>A fascinating and motivating conversation. Happy listening! </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from episode </p><p>You can connect with Cecile via LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cecile-duranton-71469b83/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/cecile-duranton-71469b83/</a></p><p>Or discover the project Time for the Planet here - <a href="https://join-time.com/en">https://join-time.com/en</a></p><p>Pircicaba, Brazil where Cécile studied - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracicaba">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracicaba</a></p><p>The Patagonia letter to shareholders from September 2022 - <a href="https://www.patagoniaworks.com/press/2022/9/14/patagonias-next-chapter-earth-is-now-our-only-shareholder">https://www.patagoniaworks.com/press/2022/9/14/patagonias-next-chapter-earth-is-now-our-only-shareholder</a></p><p>Where to measure your carbon footprint - <a href="https://www.carbonfootprint.com/calculator.aspx">https://www.carbonfootprint.com/calculator.aspx</a></p><p>Cécile's interview on the podcast 'Fille Xpats' (in French) - <a href="https://fillexpats.com/77-france/">https://fillexpats.com/77-france/</a></p><p>Fair Phone - <a href="https://www.fairphone.com/">https://www.fairphone.com/</a></p><p>The book Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man%27s_Search_for_Meaning">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man%27s_Search_for_Meaning</a></p><p>The book Why We Sleep by Matthew Walker - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_We_Sleep">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_We_Sleep</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Cécile Duranton is the managing director of Time for the Planet, a trail-blazing non-profit citizen fund detecting and financing climate change innovations.</p><p>Before joining Time for the Planet, Cécile trained as an agronomy engineer, as she is passionate about nature, animals, agriculture and food systems. </p><p>The young French woman tells Anne how she left home at 14 to attend a specialist highschool to continue to ride and train horses, and later to intern in the UK and in Vietnam. Cécile thrived in her travels, and shares how she discovered that bonds can be formed even when one doesn’t speak the local language (though clearly she loves trying). As a business developer for different French companies, she has worked extensively across South East Asia. Living the expat lifestyle, Cécile discusses why she chose to learn new languages — to better understand the culture and build strong relationships and an international network at the same time. </p><p>Cécile explains how she chose to study in Brazil, and later in New Zealand, and how she ended up turning from the engineering side to the business development side of the industry, changing the arc of her career. She also tells Anne how she got involved in sustainability and, in particular, climate change before making it her first mission. </p><p>Cécile designs and executes the international strategy of Time for the Planet, so Anne asks her about the mission of the business, how they inspire action in citizens, how they built their model to have maximum impact, why they have a low threshold to entry (you can become a shareholder for as little as 1 euro) and how changing their communication around climate change transformed their business from doom-inaction model to one charged with hope, energy and powering individual action. </p><p>A fascinating and motivating conversation. Happy listening! </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from episode </p><p>You can connect with Cecile via LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cecile-duranton-71469b83/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/cecile-duranton-71469b83/</a></p><p>Or discover the project Time for the Planet here - <a href="https://join-time.com/en">https://join-time.com/en</a></p><p>Pircicaba, Brazil where Cécile studied - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracicaba">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracicaba</a></p><p>The Patagonia letter to shareholders from September 2022 - <a href="https://www.patagoniaworks.com/press/2022/9/14/patagonias-next-chapter-earth-is-now-our-only-shareholder">https://www.patagoniaworks.com/press/2022/9/14/patagonias-next-chapter-earth-is-now-our-only-shareholder</a></p><p>Where to measure your carbon footprint - <a href="https://www.carbonfootprint.com/calculator.aspx">https://www.carbonfootprint.com/calculator.aspx</a></p><p>Cécile's interview on the podcast 'Fille Xpats' (in French) - <a href="https://fillexpats.com/77-france/">https://fillexpats.com/77-france/</a></p><p>Fair Phone - <a href="https://www.fairphone.com/">https://www.fairphone.com/</a></p><p>The book Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man%27s_Search_for_Meaning">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man%27s_Search_for_Meaning</a></p><p>The book Why We Sleep by Matthew Walker - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_We_Sleep">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_We_Sleep</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Kate Socatiyanurak is one of the co-founders of Merandi, a startup based in Bangkok, Thailand, focusing on luxury bag inserts and accessories crafted out of Thai silk. </p><p>The twenty-five-year-old entrepreneur talks to Anne about her journey from boarding school to a masters at London School of Economics to content creation for luxury brands once she was back in Thailand. Kate shares how Merandi, the brand, was born from a single conversation with her friend and other co-founder, Grace. The savvy marketer also talks about branding, the importance of a strong unique selling point and corporate social responsibility and reminding herself it’s good to build a brand and create thoughtful products (all made to order) but that it’s equally important to stay grounded and to find ways to give back to society. </p><p>Kate admits that despite her background in content creation, it’s harder for her to focus on this area of the business, having her plate full as a co-founder. The young entrepreneur also discusses her relationship to creativity in business as well as her love of Thai classical piano (her mother is a renowned artist) before talking about mindful rituals and her newfound interest in Ashtanga yoga, which helps her get away from her to-do list to find some peace and quiet. </p><p>A thoughtful interview with a bright entrepreneur. Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode </strong></p><p>You can find Kate on LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/katesocatiyanurak/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/katesocatiyanurak/</a></p><p>on Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/katenatch/">https://www.instagram.com/katenatch/</a></p><p>Discover Merandi products - <a href="https://merandiworld.com/">https://merandiworld.com/</a></p><p>And on Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/merandiworld/">https://www.instagram.com/merandiworld/</a></p><p>And Kate & Grace's new projects: </p><p>Good Cha - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/goodcha.bkk/">https://www.instagram.com/goodcha.bkk/</a></p><p>and Good Bento - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/goodbento.bkk/">https://www.instagram.com/goodbento.bkk/</a></p><p>LSE or London School of Economics - <a href="https://www.lse.ac.uk/">https://www.lse.ac.uk/</a></p><p>Beauty Gems - <a href="https://beautygems.com/company/">https://beautygems.com/company/</a></p><p>Judith Lieber - <a href="https://judithleiber.com/">https://judithleiber.com/</a></p><p>Songkran - Thai New Year - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songkran_(Thailand)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songkran_(Thailand)</a></p><p>Bombyx Mori - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombyx_mori">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombyx_mori</a></p><p>Ashtanga yoga - <a href="https://www.yogajournal.com/yoga-101/types-of-yoga/ashtanga-yoga/">https://www.yogajournal.com/yoga-101/types-of-yoga/ashtanga-yoga/</a></p><p>"cras amet qui numquam amavit quique amavit cras amet" - Kate's favorite quote, in Latin, from a poem by Tiberius, meaning: "Let those love now who never loved before,<br />Let those who always lov'd, now love the more."</p><p>The song Hallelujah - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8AWFf7EAc4">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8AWFf7EAc4</a></p><p>Michael Jackson: The Magic, the Madness, the Whole Story - <a href="https://books.google.ch/books/about/Michael_Jackson.html?id=7EkwuCFnE28C&redir_esc=y">https://books.google.ch/books/about/Michael_Jackson.html?id=7EkwuCFnE28C&redir_esc=y</a></p><p>Music for the outro of our episode feature a Thai traditional song played on the piano by Kate. </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Kate Socatiyanurak is one of the co-founders of Merandi, a startup based in Bangkok, Thailand, focusing on luxury bag inserts and accessories crafted out of Thai silk. </p><p>The twenty-five-year-old entrepreneur talks to Anne about her journey from boarding school to a masters at London School of Economics to content creation for luxury brands once she was back in Thailand. Kate shares how Merandi, the brand, was born from a single conversation with her friend and other co-founder, Grace. The savvy marketer also talks about branding, the importance of a strong unique selling point and corporate social responsibility and reminding herself it’s good to build a brand and create thoughtful products (all made to order) but that it’s equally important to stay grounded and to find ways to give back to society. </p><p>Kate admits that despite her background in content creation, it’s harder for her to focus on this area of the business, having her plate full as a co-founder. The young entrepreneur also discusses her relationship to creativity in business as well as her love of Thai classical piano (her mother is a renowned artist) before talking about mindful rituals and her newfound interest in Ashtanga yoga, which helps her get away from her to-do list to find some peace and quiet. </p><p>A thoughtful interview with a bright entrepreneur. Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode </strong></p><p>You can find Kate on LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/katesocatiyanurak/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/katesocatiyanurak/</a></p><p>on Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/katenatch/">https://www.instagram.com/katenatch/</a></p><p>Discover Merandi products - <a href="https://merandiworld.com/">https://merandiworld.com/</a></p><p>And on Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/merandiworld/">https://www.instagram.com/merandiworld/</a></p><p>And Kate & Grace's new projects: </p><p>Good Cha - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/goodcha.bkk/">https://www.instagram.com/goodcha.bkk/</a></p><p>and Good Bento - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/goodbento.bkk/">https://www.instagram.com/goodbento.bkk/</a></p><p>LSE or London School of Economics - <a href="https://www.lse.ac.uk/">https://www.lse.ac.uk/</a></p><p>Beauty Gems - <a href="https://beautygems.com/company/">https://beautygems.com/company/</a></p><p>Judith Lieber - <a href="https://judithleiber.com/">https://judithleiber.com/</a></p><p>Songkran - Thai New Year - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songkran_(Thailand)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songkran_(Thailand)</a></p><p>Bombyx Mori - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombyx_mori">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombyx_mori</a></p><p>Ashtanga yoga - <a href="https://www.yogajournal.com/yoga-101/types-of-yoga/ashtanga-yoga/">https://www.yogajournal.com/yoga-101/types-of-yoga/ashtanga-yoga/</a></p><p>"cras amet qui numquam amavit quique amavit cras amet" - Kate's favorite quote, in Latin, from a poem by Tiberius, meaning: "Let those love now who never loved before,<br />Let those who always lov'd, now love the more."</p><p>The song Hallelujah - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8AWFf7EAc4">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8AWFf7EAc4</a></p><p>Michael Jackson: The Magic, the Madness, the Whole Story - <a href="https://books.google.ch/books/about/Michael_Jackson.html?id=7EkwuCFnE28C&redir_esc=y">https://books.google.ch/books/about/Michael_Jackson.html?id=7EkwuCFnE28C&redir_esc=y</a></p><p>Music for the outro of our episode feature a Thai traditional song played on the piano by Kate. </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Known in the yoga world as THE teachers’ teacher, Annie Carpenter (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/anniecarpentersmartflow/">@anniecarpentersmartflow</a>) shares her story with Anne, who has been an avid student, first via online platform Glo.com, before attending live Zoom classes and IRL workshops with her in 2022. </p><p>Annie’s journey starts in Virginia, but she tells Anne how she found her path early on with dance, leading her to the Martha Graham company and New York City. From getting a scholarship to working at the junior company and briefly joining the main company, Annie found a calling in what she refers to as authentic self-movement and in teaching at the Martha Graham Center. An introvert, she shares with Anne how yoga became an essential part of her life, thanks to Integral yoga (Swami Satchidananda’s school) which felt like a refuge from the competitiveness of the dance world.</p><p>Annie explains how after a trip to LA and a conversation with her teacher Maty Ezraty, she impulsively relocated to the West Coast and turned to teaching yoga full time, training at Yoga Works under Maty and Lisa Walford. They go on to talk about teaching, about Annie's movement principles and energy, how to create inspiration for students, and why Annie founded her own yoga school, Smart Flow Yoga. </p><p>Annie also shares why continuing to evolve is essential, as well as learning to let go of preconceived notions. She explains how she has learnt to tap into her students’ expectations rather than relying on her own. Now based in Northern California, the teacher, who turned 65 this year, also talks about the stages of life, or ashrams, and she is learning to ‘retire’ whatever is not supportive in her practice. Quoting Noam Chomsky, she says: "If you are teaching today what you were teaching five years ago, either your field is dead, or you are.” </p><p>Annie also reveals  her passion for bird-watching, her mindfulness and pranayama practices, and how learning to be still was the doorway to her meditation practice. Finally, she answers the most delicate and profound question of all, one that Annie regularly asks her students: who is Annie? </p><p>A joyous, profoundly thoughtful and inspiring interview. Enjoy!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>You can find Annie at <a href="https://www.smartflowyoga.com/about-annie-carpenter/">https://www.smartflowyoga.com/about-annie-carpenter/</a></p><p>on Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/anniecarpentersmartflow/">https://www.instagram.com/anniecarpentersmartflow/</a></p><p>and on Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/annie.carpenter1">https://www.facebook.com/annie.carpenter1</a></p><p>And all details for her upcoming class schedule and teacher trainings are available here  - <a href="https://www.smartflowyoga.com/">https://www.smartflowyoga.com/</a></p><p>or find Annie's classes on Glo - <a href="https://www.glo.com/">https://www.glo.com/</a></p><p><strong>Selected links from episode</strong></p><p>Martha Graham on Wikipedia - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Graham">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Graham</a></p><p>And <a href="https://marthagraham.org/">https://marthagraham.org/</a></p><p>The classic piece Appalachian Spring - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM5-CsI713g">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM5-CsI713g</a></p><p>Integral Yoga - <a href="https://integralyoga.org/">https://integralyoga.org/</a></p><p>Savasana pose - <a href="https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/6582/savasana">https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/6582/savasana</a></p><p>Ali McGraw Yoga, Mind & Body - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmW5Og4VBg8">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmW5Og4VBg8</a></p><p>Eric Schiffman - <a href="https://erichschiffmann.com/">https://erichschiffmann.com/</a></p><p>Sally Kempton - <a href="https://www.sallykempton.com/">https://www.sallykempton.com/</a></p><p>Swami Satchidananda - <a href="https://integralyoga.org/founder/">https://integralyoga.org/founder/</a></p><p>Maty Ezrati - <a href="https://matyezraty.com/">https://matyezraty.com/</a></p><p>Kia Miller - <a href="https://www.kiamiller.com/">https://www.kiamiller.com/</a></p><p>Triyoga London - <a href="https://triyoga.co.uk/">https://triyoga.co.uk/</a></p><p>Diana Rilov - <a href="https://www.dianarilov.com/">https://www.dianarilov.com/</a></p><p>Feldenkreis - <a href="https://feldenkrais.com/">https://feldenkrais.com/</a></p><p>Alexander Technique - <a href="https://alexandertechnique.com/">https://alexandertechnique.com/</a></p><p>Bonnie Bainbridgecohen - <a href="https://bonniebainbridgecohen.com/">https://bonniebainbridgecohen.com/</a></p><p>The Glo Podcast - <a href="https://podcast.glo.com/">https://podcast.glo.com/</a></p><p>The yoga sutras of Patanjali - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_Sutras_of_Patanjali">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_Sutras_of_Patanjali</a></p><p>Siddhis - <a href="https://www.thecontemplativelife.org/blog/yoga-sutras-patanjali-siddhis-mystic-powers">https://www.thecontemplativelife.org/blog/yoga-sutras-patanjali-siddhis-mystic-powers</a></p><p>The prothonotary warbler - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prothonotary_warbler">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prothonotary_warbler</a></p><p>Slow birding, the book by Joan E. Strassmann - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Slow-Birding-Science-Enjoying-Backyard/dp/B09SN7L7WM">https://www.amazon.com/Slow-Birding-Science-Enjoying-Backyard/dp/B09SN7L7WM</a></p><p>Scrub jays - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_scrub_jay">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_scrub_jay</a></p><p>The four ashrams of life - <a href="https://yogasvi.com/the-four-ashrams-of-life/">https://yogasvi.com/the-four-ashrams-of-life/</a></p><p>Abhinivesha - <a href="https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/5533/abhinivesha">https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/5533/abhinivesha</a></p><p>Annie’s favourite word 'molt' - <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/molt">https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/molt</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds' playlist - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=9c1d46979d784aba">https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=9c1d46979d784aba</a></p><p>Annie's choice for what song best represents her is I'll Take You There by the Staple Singers - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/5xHfZxFBcMA2akGVMM1bdk?si=fb01ff20b53c42b7">https://open.spotify.com/track/5xHfZxFBcMA2akGVMM1bdk?si=fb01ff20b53c42b7</a></p><p>An Immense world by Ed Yong <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59575939-an-immense-world">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59575939-an-immense-world</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Known in the yoga world as THE teachers’ teacher, Annie Carpenter (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/anniecarpentersmartflow/">@anniecarpentersmartflow</a>) shares her story with Anne, who has been an avid student, first via online platform Glo.com, before attending live Zoom classes and IRL workshops with her in 2022. </p><p>Annie’s journey starts in Virginia, but she tells Anne how she found her path early on with dance, leading her to the Martha Graham company and New York City. From getting a scholarship to working at the junior company and briefly joining the main company, Annie found a calling in what she refers to as authentic self-movement and in teaching at the Martha Graham Center. An introvert, she shares with Anne how yoga became an essential part of her life, thanks to Integral yoga (Swami Satchidananda’s school) which felt like a refuge from the competitiveness of the dance world.</p><p>Annie explains how after a trip to LA and a conversation with her teacher Maty Ezraty, she impulsively relocated to the West Coast and turned to teaching yoga full time, training at Yoga Works under Maty and Lisa Walford. They go on to talk about teaching, about Annie's movement principles and energy, how to create inspiration for students, and why Annie founded her own yoga school, Smart Flow Yoga. </p><p>Annie also shares why continuing to evolve is essential, as well as learning to let go of preconceived notions. She explains how she has learnt to tap into her students’ expectations rather than relying on her own. Now based in Northern California, the teacher, who turned 65 this year, also talks about the stages of life, or ashrams, and she is learning to ‘retire’ whatever is not supportive in her practice. Quoting Noam Chomsky, she says: "If you are teaching today what you were teaching five years ago, either your field is dead, or you are.” </p><p>Annie also reveals  her passion for bird-watching, her mindfulness and pranayama practices, and how learning to be still was the doorway to her meditation practice. Finally, she answers the most delicate and profound question of all, one that Annie regularly asks her students: who is Annie? </p><p>A joyous, profoundly thoughtful and inspiring interview. Enjoy!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>You can find Annie at <a href="https://www.smartflowyoga.com/about-annie-carpenter/">https://www.smartflowyoga.com/about-annie-carpenter/</a></p><p>on Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/anniecarpentersmartflow/">https://www.instagram.com/anniecarpentersmartflow/</a></p><p>and on Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/annie.carpenter1">https://www.facebook.com/annie.carpenter1</a></p><p>And all details for her upcoming class schedule and teacher trainings are available here  - <a href="https://www.smartflowyoga.com/">https://www.smartflowyoga.com/</a></p><p>or find Annie's classes on Glo - <a href="https://www.glo.com/">https://www.glo.com/</a></p><p><strong>Selected links from episode</strong></p><p>Martha Graham on Wikipedia - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Graham">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Graham</a></p><p>And <a href="https://marthagraham.org/">https://marthagraham.org/</a></p><p>The classic piece Appalachian Spring - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM5-CsI713g">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM5-CsI713g</a></p><p>Integral Yoga - <a href="https://integralyoga.org/">https://integralyoga.org/</a></p><p>Savasana pose - <a href="https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/6582/savasana">https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/6582/savasana</a></p><p>Ali McGraw Yoga, Mind & Body - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmW5Og4VBg8">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmW5Og4VBg8</a></p><p>Eric Schiffman - <a href="https://erichschiffmann.com/">https://erichschiffmann.com/</a></p><p>Sally Kempton - <a href="https://www.sallykempton.com/">https://www.sallykempton.com/</a></p><p>Swami Satchidananda - <a href="https://integralyoga.org/founder/">https://integralyoga.org/founder/</a></p><p>Maty Ezrati - <a href="https://matyezraty.com/">https://matyezraty.com/</a></p><p>Kia Miller - <a href="https://www.kiamiller.com/">https://www.kiamiller.com/</a></p><p>Triyoga London - <a href="https://triyoga.co.uk/">https://triyoga.co.uk/</a></p><p>Diana Rilov - <a href="https://www.dianarilov.com/">https://www.dianarilov.com/</a></p><p>Feldenkreis - <a href="https://feldenkrais.com/">https://feldenkrais.com/</a></p><p>Alexander Technique - <a href="https://alexandertechnique.com/">https://alexandertechnique.com/</a></p><p>Bonnie Bainbridgecohen - <a href="https://bonniebainbridgecohen.com/">https://bonniebainbridgecohen.com/</a></p><p>The Glo Podcast - <a href="https://podcast.glo.com/">https://podcast.glo.com/</a></p><p>The yoga sutras of Patanjali - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_Sutras_of_Patanjali">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_Sutras_of_Patanjali</a></p><p>Siddhis - <a href="https://www.thecontemplativelife.org/blog/yoga-sutras-patanjali-siddhis-mystic-powers">https://www.thecontemplativelife.org/blog/yoga-sutras-patanjali-siddhis-mystic-powers</a></p><p>The prothonotary warbler - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prothonotary_warbler">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prothonotary_warbler</a></p><p>Slow birding, the book by Joan E. Strassmann - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Slow-Birding-Science-Enjoying-Backyard/dp/B09SN7L7WM">https://www.amazon.com/Slow-Birding-Science-Enjoying-Backyard/dp/B09SN7L7WM</a></p><p>Scrub jays - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_scrub_jay">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_scrub_jay</a></p><p>The four ashrams of life - <a href="https://yogasvi.com/the-four-ashrams-of-life/">https://yogasvi.com/the-four-ashrams-of-life/</a></p><p>Abhinivesha - <a href="https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/5533/abhinivesha">https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/5533/abhinivesha</a></p><p>Annie’s favourite word 'molt' - <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/molt">https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/molt</a></p><p>Out of the Clouds' playlist - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=9c1d46979d784aba">https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=9c1d46979d784aba</a></p><p>Annie's choice for what song best represents her is I'll Take You There by the Staple Singers - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/5xHfZxFBcMA2akGVMM1bdk?si=fb01ff20b53c42b7">https://open.spotify.com/track/5xHfZxFBcMA2akGVMM1bdk?si=fb01ff20b53c42b7</a></p><p>An Immense world by Ed Yong <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59575939-an-immense-world">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59575939-an-immense-world</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> or  <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Arthur Gourounlian (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/gourounlian/">@gourounlian</a>) is an Armenian-born professional dancer, choreographer and television personality, and most recently one of the three judges on Dancing with the Stars Ireland. </p><p>Arthur has performed and toured with some of the most beloved performers of recent time, from Bananarama to Beyoncé, Pink to Kylie Minogue, and many more. After a successful career as a dancer, he went on to take a leading role in casting, coaching, movement directing and choreographing music videos, world tours, media campaigns, and trade/fashion shows for Christian Louboutin, Diesel, Puma, Jean-Paul Gaultier among others. He has also appeared on television and movies, fashion shows, and advertising campaigns himself, and performed in Britain's Got Talent, Celebrity X Factor, the Brit Awards and The Royal Variety Show.</p><p>Arthur and Anne met in 2010 when she was working for Christian Louboutin. They collaborated on a project for online platform Fashionair, when Arthur trained Christian for his first and only dance performance, which culminated in a viral video that saw the famous shoe designer tap dance his way in a dream sequence on a London stage. </p><p>In this conversation, Arthur shares with Anne his harrowing journey from Armenia to Belgium as a refugee with his family, escaping the war when he was just twelve years old. Then how, while their refugee status was still being decided, his family was rocked by the death of his father. Shortly after, young Arthur left for Brussels to try his hand at hairdressing, only to find himself being picked out of the crowd and selected as a dancer. From there, Arthur discusses his many surprises and successes, how he went from Milan to London, and made his mark on the dance scene as a performer before turning to choreography and creative direction. </p><p>Arthur dreamt of making it big, an homage to his father, and moving away from the refugee status he carried as an adolescent. The successful and charismatic personality is also the other half of one of Ireland’s most beloved celebrity couples, as he is married to Big Brother alumni/star Brian Dowling. The two of them recently welcomed their first child into the world, Blake Maria Rose, and Arthur shares the ups and downs that have led to this most joyous moment. </p><p>Arthur’s story is quite unlike any other. As Anne reflects to him, it’s epic enough to be hinting at Joseph Campbell’s hero’s journey. A sparkling, touching and deeply positive interview with someone who will certainly light up your day. Happy listening.</p><p>Favourite quote of the episode: <i>‘I only keep things that Arthur wants to keep because I only keep what I think is best for me. Why would I listen to you? It's your journey. I want to create my own journey.’</i></p><p> </p><p><i>***</i></p><p>You can out more about  Arthur on his website: <a href="http://arthurgourounlian.com/">http://arthurgourounlian.com/</a></p><p>IG -  <a href="https://www.instagram.com/gourounlian/">https://www.instagram.com/gourounlian/</a></p><p>Facebook - Arthur Gourounlian - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/arthurgourounlian">https://www.facebook.com/arthurgourounlian</a></p><p>and his Youtube Channel - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/arthurgourounlian">https://www.youtube.com/user/arthurgourounlian</a></p><p>and Vimeo - <a href="https://vimeo.com/arthurgourounlian">https://vimeo.com/arthurgourounlian</a></p><p>The Fashionair film Dancer in a Day Dream featuring Christian Louboutin and Arthur - <a href="https://youtu.be/esXVbslAvVY" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/esXVbslAvVY</a></p><p>The making of the film - <a href="https://youtu.be/ZxwocNpdl4Q" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/ZxwocNpdl4Q</a></p><p>You can also discover Arthur's new venture, AG Socks - <a href="https://theagofficial.com/products/the-gourounlian">https://theagofficial.com/products/the-gourounlian</a></p><p>Notre Dame de Paris, the musical - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame_de_Paris_(musical)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame_de_Paris_(musical)</a></p><p>Sous le Soleil TV show -<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0172057/">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0172057/</a></p><p>The podcast Mamia & Me featuring Arthur and his husband Brian Dowling - <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dont-wake-the-baby-with-brian-dowling/id1570246269?i=1000559798535">https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dont-wake-the-baby-with-brian-dowling/id1570246269?i=1000559798535</a></p><p>The blooper real with Arthur and Brian touching up their hair - <a href="https://youtu.be/MPMxXk0usVI" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/MPMxXk0usVI</a></p><p>The song 'Maniac' by Michael Sambello - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/7CML07e8m56LrmgkC4Bl3Z?si=9462b40d81fb4e98">https://open.spotify.com/track/7CML07e8m56LrmgkC4Bl3Z?si=9462b40d81fb4e98</a></p><p>Dancing with the Stars Ireland - <a href="https://www.rte.ie/tv/programmes/dancing-with-the-stars/">https://www.rte.ie/tv/programmes/dancing-with-the-stars/</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Arthur Gourounlian (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/gourounlian/">@gourounlian</a>) is an Armenian-born professional dancer, choreographer and television personality, and most recently one of the three judges on Dancing with the Stars Ireland. </p><p>Arthur has performed and toured with some of the most beloved performers of recent time, from Bananarama to Beyoncé, Pink to Kylie Minogue, and many more. After a successful career as a dancer, he went on to take a leading role in casting, coaching, movement directing and choreographing music videos, world tours, media campaigns, and trade/fashion shows for Christian Louboutin, Diesel, Puma, Jean-Paul Gaultier among others. He has also appeared on television and movies, fashion shows, and advertising campaigns himself, and performed in Britain's Got Talent, Celebrity X Factor, the Brit Awards and The Royal Variety Show.</p><p>Arthur and Anne met in 2010 when she was working for Christian Louboutin. They collaborated on a project for online platform Fashionair, when Arthur trained Christian for his first and only dance performance, which culminated in a viral video that saw the famous shoe designer tap dance his way in a dream sequence on a London stage. </p><p>In this conversation, Arthur shares with Anne his harrowing journey from Armenia to Belgium as a refugee with his family, escaping the war when he was just twelve years old. Then how, while their refugee status was still being decided, his family was rocked by the death of his father. Shortly after, young Arthur left for Brussels to try his hand at hairdressing, only to find himself being picked out of the crowd and selected as a dancer. From there, Arthur discusses his many surprises and successes, how he went from Milan to London, and made his mark on the dance scene as a performer before turning to choreography and creative direction. </p><p>Arthur dreamt of making it big, an homage to his father, and moving away from the refugee status he carried as an adolescent. The successful and charismatic personality is also the other half of one of Ireland’s most beloved celebrity couples, as he is married to Big Brother alumni/star Brian Dowling. The two of them recently welcomed their first child into the world, Blake Maria Rose, and Arthur shares the ups and downs that have led to this most joyous moment. </p><p>Arthur’s story is quite unlike any other. As Anne reflects to him, it’s epic enough to be hinting at Joseph Campbell’s hero’s journey. A sparkling, touching and deeply positive interview with someone who will certainly light up your day. Happy listening.</p><p>Favourite quote of the episode: <i>‘I only keep things that Arthur wants to keep because I only keep what I think is best for me. Why would I listen to you? It's your journey. I want to create my own journey.’</i></p><p> </p><p><i>***</i></p><p>You can out more about  Arthur on his website: <a href="http://arthurgourounlian.com/">http://arthurgourounlian.com/</a></p><p>IG -  <a href="https://www.instagram.com/gourounlian/">https://www.instagram.com/gourounlian/</a></p><p>Facebook - Arthur Gourounlian - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/arthurgourounlian">https://www.facebook.com/arthurgourounlian</a></p><p>and his Youtube Channel - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/arthurgourounlian">https://www.youtube.com/user/arthurgourounlian</a></p><p>and Vimeo - <a href="https://vimeo.com/arthurgourounlian">https://vimeo.com/arthurgourounlian</a></p><p>The Fashionair film Dancer in a Day Dream featuring Christian Louboutin and Arthur - <a href="https://youtu.be/esXVbslAvVY" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/esXVbslAvVY</a></p><p>The making of the film - <a href="https://youtu.be/ZxwocNpdl4Q" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/ZxwocNpdl4Q</a></p><p>You can also discover Arthur's new venture, AG Socks - <a href="https://theagofficial.com/products/the-gourounlian">https://theagofficial.com/products/the-gourounlian</a></p><p>Notre Dame de Paris, the musical - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame_de_Paris_(musical)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame_de_Paris_(musical)</a></p><p>Sous le Soleil TV show -<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0172057/">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0172057/</a></p><p>The podcast Mamia & Me featuring Arthur and his husband Brian Dowling - <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dont-wake-the-baby-with-brian-dowling/id1570246269?i=1000559798535">https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dont-wake-the-baby-with-brian-dowling/id1570246269?i=1000559798535</a></p><p>The blooper real with Arthur and Brian touching up their hair - <a href="https://youtu.be/MPMxXk0usVI" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/MPMxXk0usVI</a></p><p>The song 'Maniac' by Michael Sambello - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/7CML07e8m56LrmgkC4Bl3Z?si=9462b40d81fb4e98">https://open.spotify.com/track/7CML07e8m56LrmgkC4Bl3Z?si=9462b40d81fb4e98</a></p><p>Dancing with the Stars Ireland - <a href="https://www.rte.ie/tv/programmes/dancing-with-the-stars/">https://www.rte.ie/tv/programmes/dancing-with-the-stars/</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Pippa Small (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/pippasmalljewellery/?hl=en">@PippaSmallJewellery</a>) is a responsible jeweller based in London’s Westbourne Grove and she is considered to be one of the most inspirational leaders in the jewellery industry. Awarded an MBE by Her Majesty Queen Elisabeth II in 2013, named ambassador of the human rights organisation Survival International and Winner of both the Ethical Jeweller of the Year and the Corporate Social Responsibility awards in 2016, and was also winner of the Green Sustainability Award by Town and Country magazine.</p><p>In this interview, Pippa tells Anne how she fell in love with travel as a young child, following her widowed mother who took her children to exotic places. She became attracted to stones very early on, and she explains how through stones, she keeps a connection to the places and people that each are linked to, and also finds a sense of protection from them.</p><p>Pippa shares how she went from studying medical anthropology to working with indigenous communities in South-East Asia before starting to develop her own jewellery. She started organically making her own pieces but she also developed her credentials working at Gucci under Tom Ford as a consultant designer in 2003. Even though, in her own words, her organic free flow jewellery felt at odds with the graphic and sexy feel of the Gucci house at the time she was recruited and briefed to go to India and design whatever she thought could work: colour, uneven shapes and a very different new aesthetic for their jewellery. This financially enabled her to start her first project working with the San bushmen in Botswana, combining her love of travel, working with indigenous communities and jewellery. </p><p>Anne and Pippa discuss the historic importance of adornment and jewellery, going back to the caves of Lascaux, the luxury that is ‘made by hand’ but also the great importance of learning to ‘make’ or transmitting tradition in the communities that Pippa has been working with, from Bolivia to India, to Jordan, Myanmar and Colombia. With a brand new collection out, made in Colombia from ethically sourced gold called ‘Together Forever’, Pippa and Anne talk about the difficulty of not just sourcing clean gold but motivating and educating consumers to talk about it. </p><p>The designer finishes the interview by sharing her love of books, and how moved she is by the world. Happy listening! </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>You can find Pippa at <a href="https://pippasmall.com/">https://pippasmall.com/</a></p><p>On Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/pippasmalljewellery/?hl=en">https://www.instagram.com/pippasmalljewellery/?hl=en</a></p><p>On Pinterest - <a href="https://www.pinterest.co.uk/Pippasmallpin/">https://www.pinterest.co.uk/Pippasmallpin/</a></p><p>On Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/pippasmalljewellery/">https://www.facebook.com/pippasmalljewellery/</a></p><p>On Twitter - <a href="https://twitter.com/pippasmall">https://twitter.com/pippasmall</a></p><p>The cave of Lascaux - <a href="https://www.worldhistory.org/Lascaux_Cave/">https://www.worldhistory.org/Lascaux_Cave/</a></p><p>The San bushmen in Botswana - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_people">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_people</a></p><p>The Kuna Indians - <a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/Kuna">https://www.britannica.com/topic/Kuna</a></p><p>The article in the Independent where Pippa discovered the environmental cost of producing a single gold band - <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/the-real-price-of-gold-5348614.html&sa=D&source=docs&ust=1670601371340953&usg=AOvVaw1GD4RwcOtoJkrJq0Sk7eaG" target="_blank">https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/the-real-price-of-gold-5348614.html</a></p><p>Turquoise Mountain Foundation - <a href="https://www.turquoisemountain.org/">https://www.turquoisemountain.org/</a></p><p>The Financial Times article on Pippa - <a href="https://www.ft.com/content/9ad9f7d9-043b-4a46-993a-cfa65d54b9ad">https://www.ft.com/content/9ad9f7d9-043b-4a46-993a-cfa65d54b9ad</a></p><p>The song ' <a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/6mmv0gwumlFGWDGJXF4yEv">What a wonderful world'</a> by Louis Armstrong</p><p>The full playlist from Out of the Clouds - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=7857c2daec32413a">https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=7857c2daec32413a</a></p><p>The book <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/129787.The_Other_Side_of_Eden">'The Other Side of Eden</a>' by anthropologist Hugh Brody</p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Pippa Small (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/pippasmalljewellery/?hl=en">@PippaSmallJewellery</a>) is a responsible jeweller based in London’s Westbourne Grove and she is considered to be one of the most inspirational leaders in the jewellery industry. Awarded an MBE by Her Majesty Queen Elisabeth II in 2013, named ambassador of the human rights organisation Survival International and Winner of both the Ethical Jeweller of the Year and the Corporate Social Responsibility awards in 2016, and was also winner of the Green Sustainability Award by Town and Country magazine.</p><p>In this interview, Pippa tells Anne how she fell in love with travel as a young child, following her widowed mother who took her children to exotic places. She became attracted to stones very early on, and she explains how through stones, she keeps a connection to the places and people that each are linked to, and also finds a sense of protection from them.</p><p>Pippa shares how she went from studying medical anthropology to working with indigenous communities in South-East Asia before starting to develop her own jewellery. She started organically making her own pieces but she also developed her credentials working at Gucci under Tom Ford as a consultant designer in 2003. Even though, in her own words, her organic free flow jewellery felt at odds with the graphic and sexy feel of the Gucci house at the time she was recruited and briefed to go to India and design whatever she thought could work: colour, uneven shapes and a very different new aesthetic for their jewellery. This financially enabled her to start her first project working with the San bushmen in Botswana, combining her love of travel, working with indigenous communities and jewellery. </p><p>Anne and Pippa discuss the historic importance of adornment and jewellery, going back to the caves of Lascaux, the luxury that is ‘made by hand’ but also the great importance of learning to ‘make’ or transmitting tradition in the communities that Pippa has been working with, from Bolivia to India, to Jordan, Myanmar and Colombia. With a brand new collection out, made in Colombia from ethically sourced gold called ‘Together Forever’, Pippa and Anne talk about the difficulty of not just sourcing clean gold but motivating and educating consumers to talk about it. </p><p>The designer finishes the interview by sharing her love of books, and how moved she is by the world. Happy listening! </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>You can find Pippa at <a href="https://pippasmall.com/">https://pippasmall.com/</a></p><p>On Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/pippasmalljewellery/?hl=en">https://www.instagram.com/pippasmalljewellery/?hl=en</a></p><p>On Pinterest - <a href="https://www.pinterest.co.uk/Pippasmallpin/">https://www.pinterest.co.uk/Pippasmallpin/</a></p><p>On Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/pippasmalljewellery/">https://www.facebook.com/pippasmalljewellery/</a></p><p>On Twitter - <a href="https://twitter.com/pippasmall">https://twitter.com/pippasmall</a></p><p>The cave of Lascaux - <a href="https://www.worldhistory.org/Lascaux_Cave/">https://www.worldhistory.org/Lascaux_Cave/</a></p><p>The San bushmen in Botswana - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_people">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_people</a></p><p>The Kuna Indians - <a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/Kuna">https://www.britannica.com/topic/Kuna</a></p><p>The article in the Independent where Pippa discovered the environmental cost of producing a single gold band - <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/the-real-price-of-gold-5348614.html&sa=D&source=docs&ust=1670601371340953&usg=AOvVaw1GD4RwcOtoJkrJq0Sk7eaG" target="_blank">https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/the-real-price-of-gold-5348614.html</a></p><p>Turquoise Mountain Foundation - <a href="https://www.turquoisemountain.org/">https://www.turquoisemountain.org/</a></p><p>The Financial Times article on Pippa - <a href="https://www.ft.com/content/9ad9f7d9-043b-4a46-993a-cfa65d54b9ad">https://www.ft.com/content/9ad9f7d9-043b-4a46-993a-cfa65d54b9ad</a></p><p>The song ' <a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/6mmv0gwumlFGWDGJXF4yEv">What a wonderful world'</a> by Louis Armstrong</p><p>The full playlist from Out of the Clouds - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=7857c2daec32413a">https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=7857c2daec32413a</a></p><p>The book <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/129787.The_Other_Side_of_Eden">'The Other Side of Eden</a>' by anthropologist Hugh Brody</p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Scott Wimsett on brand content as documentary, sustainability and selling principles</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, Anne Muhlethaler interviews Scott Wimsett <a href="https://www.instagram.com/scottwimsett/">@ScottWimsett</a>, a presenter, a fashion director and sustainability expert based in the UK. </p><p>Scott started his agency, <a href="https://www.bespokebanter.com/">Bespoke Banter</a>, in 2006 with a vision of supporting global talent and brands to create social assets in film to support their storytelling. Scott built a reputation for being a supportive and trusted partner for many world-renowned talents who work with his company closely to craft the broadcasted film and images they distribute globally. </p><p>More recently, Scott launched <a href="https://www.feelgoodfellowship.com/">The Feel Good Fellowshi</a>p with friend, model, and climate activist Arizona Muse. Among all his endeavours, Scott is committed to encouraging brands to prioritise transparency, accuracy, and research in all their digital content to empower audiences to make more sustainable, environmentally positive choices in the brands they support.</p><p>Much like Anne, Scott loves to entertain good conversations in addition to his content creation work. Scott has hosted a podcast with Royal Ascot on sustainability, and returned with a new show called ‘Personal Threads’, with diverse guests from David Gandy to Paul O’Grady and June Sarpong. </p><p>In this interview, Scott shares with Anne his story, from how he started on stage acting and dancing before going into modelling and PR — but always with a desire pulling him to TV and presenting. An astute expert in his field, Scott talks about his early wins and what helped establish his reputation, and later about the importance of listening carefully to what is coming next, including how that’s guided his moves from his start with Bespoke Banter to the projects he is doing now.</p><p>Scott shares the thought process that drove him to build his own company and why he felt, and still feels, that film (or video) is essential for brands and talent to tell a detailed story. Scott believes that brands can turn to film to create a documentary of sorts — one that transmits their values and history, and that will communicate their DNA to their audience — but that transparency and vulnerability are key.</p><p>Scott then tells Anne about his experience with Vipassana, which he discovered when a friend signed him up to attend a silent meditation retreat that transformed his life. He goes on to talk about how the combination of being active in addition to meditation and journaling continues to support him daily and explains that his meditation and other personal health rituals are not a hack or a quick add on, but, as he says, a necessity: ‘It's not like it's painted on. It's not like you are making yourself do it. It becomes just part of who we are. It's just how you live your life.’    </p><p>Happy listening!    </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>You can find Scott on Instagram @<a href="https://www.instagram.com/scottwimsett/">https://www.instagram.com/scottwimsett/</a></p><p>Discover his company Bespoke Banter -  <a href="https://www.bespokebanter.com/">https://www.bespokebanter.com/</a></p><p>And the Feel Good Fellowship - <a href="https://www.feelgoodfellowship.com/">https://www.feelgoodfellowship.com/</a></p><p>Scott is also an advisor with the Sustainable Beauty Coalition - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sustainablebeautycoalition/">https://www.instagram.com/sustainablebeautycoalition/</a></p><p>The British Beauty Council - <a href="https://britishbeautycouncil.com/">https://britishbeautycouncil.com/</a></p><p>The first Royal Ascot podcast hosted by Scott called 'A New Era in Style' -<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/royal-ascot-a-new-era-in-style/id1569576018">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/royal-ascot-a-new-era-in-style/id1569576018</a></p><p>Bay Garnett, stylist and senior fashion ambassador for Oxfam - <a href="https://www.baygarnett.com/press">https://www.baygarnett.com/press</a></p><p>The Royal Ascot - <a href="https://www.ascot.com/royal-ascot-2023">https://www.ascot.com/royal-ascot-2023</a></p><p>The Royal Ascot 'Personal Threads' podcast hosted by Scott Wimsett & Susan Bender - <a href="https://shows.acast.com/personal-threads">https://shows.acast.com/personal-threads</a></p><p>The song Faith by George Michael - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cs3Pvmmv0E">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cs3Pvmmv0E</a></p><p>Anne Glenconner's book 'Lady in Waiting' - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/49945845-lady-in-waiting">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/49945845-lady-in-waiting</a></p><p>*** </p><p><i>f you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, Anne Muhlethaler interviews Scott Wimsett <a href="https://www.instagram.com/scottwimsett/">@ScottWimsett</a>, a presenter, a fashion director and sustainability expert based in the UK. </p><p>Scott started his agency, <a href="https://www.bespokebanter.com/">Bespoke Banter</a>, in 2006 with a vision of supporting global talent and brands to create social assets in film to support their storytelling. Scott built a reputation for being a supportive and trusted partner for many world-renowned talents who work with his company closely to craft the broadcasted film and images they distribute globally. </p><p>More recently, Scott launched <a href="https://www.feelgoodfellowship.com/">The Feel Good Fellowshi</a>p with friend, model, and climate activist Arizona Muse. Among all his endeavours, Scott is committed to encouraging brands to prioritise transparency, accuracy, and research in all their digital content to empower audiences to make more sustainable, environmentally positive choices in the brands they support.</p><p>Much like Anne, Scott loves to entertain good conversations in addition to his content creation work. Scott has hosted a podcast with Royal Ascot on sustainability, and returned with a new show called ‘Personal Threads’, with diverse guests from David Gandy to Paul O’Grady and June Sarpong. </p><p>In this interview, Scott shares with Anne his story, from how he started on stage acting and dancing before going into modelling and PR — but always with a desire pulling him to TV and presenting. An astute expert in his field, Scott talks about his early wins and what helped establish his reputation, and later about the importance of listening carefully to what is coming next, including how that’s guided his moves from his start with Bespoke Banter to the projects he is doing now.</p><p>Scott shares the thought process that drove him to build his own company and why he felt, and still feels, that film (or video) is essential for brands and talent to tell a detailed story. Scott believes that brands can turn to film to create a documentary of sorts — one that transmits their values and history, and that will communicate their DNA to their audience — but that transparency and vulnerability are key.</p><p>Scott then tells Anne about his experience with Vipassana, which he discovered when a friend signed him up to attend a silent meditation retreat that transformed his life. He goes on to talk about how the combination of being active in addition to meditation and journaling continues to support him daily and explains that his meditation and other personal health rituals are not a hack or a quick add on, but, as he says, a necessity: ‘It's not like it's painted on. It's not like you are making yourself do it. It becomes just part of who we are. It's just how you live your life.’    </p><p>Happy listening!    </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>You can find Scott on Instagram @<a href="https://www.instagram.com/scottwimsett/">https://www.instagram.com/scottwimsett/</a></p><p>Discover his company Bespoke Banter -  <a href="https://www.bespokebanter.com/">https://www.bespokebanter.com/</a></p><p>And the Feel Good Fellowship - <a href="https://www.feelgoodfellowship.com/">https://www.feelgoodfellowship.com/</a></p><p>Scott is also an advisor with the Sustainable Beauty Coalition - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sustainablebeautycoalition/">https://www.instagram.com/sustainablebeautycoalition/</a></p><p>The British Beauty Council - <a href="https://britishbeautycouncil.com/">https://britishbeautycouncil.com/</a></p><p>The first Royal Ascot podcast hosted by Scott called 'A New Era in Style' -<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/royal-ascot-a-new-era-in-style/id1569576018">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/royal-ascot-a-new-era-in-style/id1569576018</a></p><p>Bay Garnett, stylist and senior fashion ambassador for Oxfam - <a href="https://www.baygarnett.com/press">https://www.baygarnett.com/press</a></p><p>The Royal Ascot - <a href="https://www.ascot.com/royal-ascot-2023">https://www.ascot.com/royal-ascot-2023</a></p><p>The Royal Ascot 'Personal Threads' podcast hosted by Scott Wimsett & Susan Bender - <a href="https://shows.acast.com/personal-threads">https://shows.acast.com/personal-threads</a></p><p>The song Faith by George Michael - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cs3Pvmmv0E">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cs3Pvmmv0E</a></p><p>Anne Glenconner's book 'Lady in Waiting' - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/49945845-lady-in-waiting">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/49945845-lady-in-waiting</a></p><p>*** </p><p><i>f you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Nada Ghazal on her love of Beirut, finding courage and creating for connection</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Nada Ghazal (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/nadaghazaljewelry/">@NadaGhazalJewelry</a>) is a jewellery designer and entrepreneur based in Beirut, Lebanon. In this episode of Out of the Clouds,  she shares the story of her relationship with design and creativity with host Anne Muhlethaler. Growing up, Nada shares that she was always fascinated by adorning herself, and while she spent a lot of time painting, she was also making her own jewellery and shoes with the help of local artisans. Even back then, she remembers that her desire was to create objects that would connect her to other people. </p><p>Nada tells how she landed in graphic design since there weren't any jewellery or fashion courses in Beirut at the time, and which tilted her career towards advertising, giving her resources to start her own brand. Nada recalls how she quit her fancy agency job in Dubai on her 30th birthday, in order not to start her company ‘too late.’</p><p>The talented creative explains how her vision was to develop an individualistic line, that would be timeless but with jewellery that can be worn day to night — not be left in a safe. And from the start, Nada wanted to have the atelier under the same roof as the rest of the team. </p><p>Having lived through war and, more recently, survived the terrifying blast that destroyed part of the Lebanese capital, Nada movingly recounts how she strives to translate her experiences into her pieces, even turning a painful feeling into something beautiful. </p><p>She also talks eloquently about her deep connection to her city, her muse, which she feels has a soul or a spirit all of its own and what inspires her and gives her the courage to get back on her feet, rebuild and start again. </p><p>The two finish by discussing Nada's wellness and grounding rituals, which include a regular breathing practice in the morning, and her favorite guided meditations. </p><p>A moving and inspiring interview. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>You can find Nada Ghazal on her website : https://www.nadaghazal.com/en/home</p><p>On Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nadaghazaljewelry/">https://www.instagram.com/nadaghazaljewelry/</a></p><p>On TikTok - <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nadaghazaljewelry">https://www.tiktok.com/@nadaghazaljewelry</a></p><p>On Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/NadaGhazalJewelry">https://www.facebook.com/NadaGhazalJewelry</a></p><p>On Pinterest -  <a href="https://www.pinterest.ch/NadaGhazalJewelry/">https://www.pinterest.ch/NadaGhazalJewelry/</a></p><p>On Youtube - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/NadaGJewelry">https://www.youtube.com/user/NadaGJewelry</a></p><p>And finally on LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/nadaghazaljewelry/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/nadaghazaljewelry/</a></p><p>The meditation teacher Sally Kempton - <a href="https://www.sallykempton.com/">https://www.sallykempton.com/</a></p><p>Imagine by John Lennon - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOgFZfRVaww">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOgFZfRVaww</a></p><p>The book 'Many Lives, Many Masters by Brian L Weiss - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34452.Many_Lives_Many_Masters">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34452.Many_Lives_Many_Masters</a></p><p>*** </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Nada Ghazal (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/nadaghazaljewelry/">@NadaGhazalJewelry</a>) is a jewellery designer and entrepreneur based in Beirut, Lebanon. In this episode of Out of the Clouds,  she shares the story of her relationship with design and creativity with host Anne Muhlethaler. Growing up, Nada shares that she was always fascinated by adorning herself, and while she spent a lot of time painting, she was also making her own jewellery and shoes with the help of local artisans. Even back then, she remembers that her desire was to create objects that would connect her to other people. </p><p>Nada tells how she landed in graphic design since there weren't any jewellery or fashion courses in Beirut at the time, and which tilted her career towards advertising, giving her resources to start her own brand. Nada recalls how she quit her fancy agency job in Dubai on her 30th birthday, in order not to start her company ‘too late.’</p><p>The talented creative explains how her vision was to develop an individualistic line, that would be timeless but with jewellery that can be worn day to night — not be left in a safe. And from the start, Nada wanted to have the atelier under the same roof as the rest of the team. </p><p>Having lived through war and, more recently, survived the terrifying blast that destroyed part of the Lebanese capital, Nada movingly recounts how she strives to translate her experiences into her pieces, even turning a painful feeling into something beautiful. </p><p>She also talks eloquently about her deep connection to her city, her muse, which she feels has a soul or a spirit all of its own and what inspires her and gives her the courage to get back on her feet, rebuild and start again. </p><p>The two finish by discussing Nada's wellness and grounding rituals, which include a regular breathing practice in the morning, and her favorite guided meditations. </p><p>A moving and inspiring interview. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>You can find Nada Ghazal on her website : https://www.nadaghazal.com/en/home</p><p>On Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nadaghazaljewelry/">https://www.instagram.com/nadaghazaljewelry/</a></p><p>On TikTok - <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nadaghazaljewelry">https://www.tiktok.com/@nadaghazaljewelry</a></p><p>On Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/NadaGhazalJewelry">https://www.facebook.com/NadaGhazalJewelry</a></p><p>On Pinterest -  <a href="https://www.pinterest.ch/NadaGhazalJewelry/">https://www.pinterest.ch/NadaGhazalJewelry/</a></p><p>On Youtube - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/NadaGJewelry">https://www.youtube.com/user/NadaGJewelry</a></p><p>And finally on LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/nadaghazaljewelry/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/nadaghazaljewelry/</a></p><p>The meditation teacher Sally Kempton - <a href="https://www.sallykempton.com/">https://www.sallykempton.com/</a></p><p>Imagine by John Lennon - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOgFZfRVaww">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOgFZfRVaww</a></p><p>The book 'Many Lives, Many Masters by Brian L Weiss - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34452.Many_Lives_Many_Masters">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34452.Many_Lives_Many_Masters</a></p><p>*** </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Kim Walls (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/kimwallsla/">@KimWallsLA</a>) is a beauty industry innovator, fourth-generation entrepreneur and the CEO and co-founder of Furtuna Skin (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/furtunaskin/">@FurtunaSkin</a>). Her work in luxury skincare has been featured across the media from Vogue, Allure to CBS and many more. She says that her favorite honour was being named one of the  "9 Wonder Women of the Natural Industry" by New Hope Media for leadership leveraging technology in early-stage brands to help them grow from concept past their first $1MM.</p><p>The charismatic executive shares her story with host Anne Muhlethaler, starting with how as a teenager she worked with her dad — himself the man behind niche luxury skincare brand Epicuren — helping with packaging and logistics. Early on, the second-generation health & wellness expert realised that anything we put on our skin is going to be absorbed by our body, begging the question: what do we want in our body?</p><p>Kim goes on to explain how this empowered her to continue working in the natural beauty space, where she honed her skills as a brand strategist, product development innovator and retail and e-commerce expert. Though she also tells Anne how her career felt more like a jungle gym than a straightforward corporate ladder.</p><p>Kim also describes how she met her business partner, Agatha Luczo, and the touching, or even romantic, story behind their latest project, the natural beauty brand Furtuna Skin. Anne and Kim discuss its Sicilian roots, before talking about plant foraging, plant circadian rhythms, ultrasound technology and why we should trust the power of nature. </p><p>Considered a clean beauty pioneer, Kim shares how much she cares about community, safe beauty, and the environment. With the work they are doing at Furtuna, Kim hopes to inspire many other entrepreneurs to embrace a holistic strategy that could take us towards a regenerative lifestyle. </p><p>A joyful, in-depth and very inspiring interview. </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode: </strong></p><p>You can find Kim Walls on Instagram @KimWallsLA - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/kimwallsla/">https://www.instagram.com/kimwallsla/</a></p><p>On LinkedIn at <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimwalls/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimwalls/</a></p><p>Discover Furtuna Skin at<a href="https://www.instagram.com/furtunaskin/"> https://www.instagram.com/furtunaskin/ </a></p><p>or on their website - <a href="https://www.furtunaskin.com/">https://www.furtunaskin.com/</a></p><p>The No Doubt Song 'Just a girl' - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHzOOQfhPFg">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHzOOQfhPFg</a></p><p>Kim's father's brand, Epicuren - <a href="https://epicuren.com/">https://epicuren.com/</a></p><p>Steve Luczo - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_J._Luczo">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_J._Luczo</a></p><p>Bona  Fortuna olive oil - <a href="https://bonafurtuna.com/">https://bonafurtuna.com/</a></p><p>The James Baldwin quote - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/512849-literature-is-indispensable-to-the-world-the-world-changes-according">https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/512849-literature-is-indispensable-to-the-world-the-world-changes-according</a></p><p>The bi-phase moisturising oil Due Alberi by Furtuna Skin - <a href="https://www.furtunaskin.com/collections/best-sellers/products/due-alberi-biphase-moisturizing-oil?variant=32361045852195">https://www.furtunaskin.com/collections/best-sellers/products/due-alberi-biphase-moisturizing-oil?variant=32361045852195</a></p><p>Jane McGonigal's book, Imaginable -<a href="https://janemcgonigal.com/"> https://janemcgonigal.com/</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleocanthal">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleocanthal</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleuropein">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleuropein</a></p><p>The song Talk Love by Sonya Spence - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/0fmzrJ1ibKngaxB5w0v75L">https://open.spotify.com/track/0fmzrJ1ibKngaxB5w0v75L</a></p><p>The book How I built This by Guy Raz - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48930275-how-i-built-this">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48930275-how-i-built-this</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Kim Walls (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/kimwallsla/">@KimWallsLA</a>) is a beauty industry innovator, fourth-generation entrepreneur and the CEO and co-founder of Furtuna Skin (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/furtunaskin/">@FurtunaSkin</a>). Her work in luxury skincare has been featured across the media from Vogue, Allure to CBS and many more. She says that her favorite honour was being named one of the  "9 Wonder Women of the Natural Industry" by New Hope Media for leadership leveraging technology in early-stage brands to help them grow from concept past their first $1MM.</p><p>The charismatic executive shares her story with host Anne Muhlethaler, starting with how as a teenager she worked with her dad — himself the man behind niche luxury skincare brand Epicuren — helping with packaging and logistics. Early on, the second-generation health & wellness expert realised that anything we put on our skin is going to be absorbed by our body, begging the question: what do we want in our body?</p><p>Kim goes on to explain how this empowered her to continue working in the natural beauty space, where she honed her skills as a brand strategist, product development innovator and retail and e-commerce expert. Though she also tells Anne how her career felt more like a jungle gym than a straightforward corporate ladder.</p><p>Kim also describes how she met her business partner, Agatha Luczo, and the touching, or even romantic, story behind their latest project, the natural beauty brand Furtuna Skin. Anne and Kim discuss its Sicilian roots, before talking about plant foraging, plant circadian rhythms, ultrasound technology and why we should trust the power of nature. </p><p>Considered a clean beauty pioneer, Kim shares how much she cares about community, safe beauty, and the environment. With the work they are doing at Furtuna, Kim hopes to inspire many other entrepreneurs to embrace a holistic strategy that could take us towards a regenerative lifestyle. </p><p>A joyful, in-depth and very inspiring interview. </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode: </strong></p><p>You can find Kim Walls on Instagram @KimWallsLA - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/kimwallsla/">https://www.instagram.com/kimwallsla/</a></p><p>On LinkedIn at <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimwalls/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimwalls/</a></p><p>Discover Furtuna Skin at<a href="https://www.instagram.com/furtunaskin/"> https://www.instagram.com/furtunaskin/ </a></p><p>or on their website - <a href="https://www.furtunaskin.com/">https://www.furtunaskin.com/</a></p><p>The No Doubt Song 'Just a girl' - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHzOOQfhPFg">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHzOOQfhPFg</a></p><p>Kim's father's brand, Epicuren - <a href="https://epicuren.com/">https://epicuren.com/</a></p><p>Steve Luczo - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_J._Luczo">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_J._Luczo</a></p><p>Bona  Fortuna olive oil - <a href="https://bonafurtuna.com/">https://bonafurtuna.com/</a></p><p>The James Baldwin quote - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/512849-literature-is-indispensable-to-the-world-the-world-changes-according">https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/512849-literature-is-indispensable-to-the-world-the-world-changes-according</a></p><p>The bi-phase moisturising oil Due Alberi by Furtuna Skin - <a href="https://www.furtunaskin.com/collections/best-sellers/products/due-alberi-biphase-moisturizing-oil?variant=32361045852195">https://www.furtunaskin.com/collections/best-sellers/products/due-alberi-biphase-moisturizing-oil?variant=32361045852195</a></p><p>Jane McGonigal's book, Imaginable -<a href="https://janemcgonigal.com/"> https://janemcgonigal.com/</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleocanthal">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleocanthal</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleuropein">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleuropein</a></p><p>The song Talk Love by Sonya Spence - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/0fmzrJ1ibKngaxB5w0v75L">https://open.spotify.com/track/0fmzrJ1ibKngaxB5w0v75L</a></p><p>The book How I built This by Guy Raz - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48930275-how-i-built-this">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48930275-how-i-built-this</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2022 15:15:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Host of Out of the Clouds Anne V Muhlethaler reflects on her first two years of podcasting and how enriched she feels her life is for having had these meaningful conversations with her guests before introducing the show's third season. </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Host of Out of the Clouds Anne V Muhlethaler reflects on her first two years of podcasting and how enriched she feels her life is for having had these meaningful conversations with her guests before introducing the show's third season. </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2022 21:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The guest for this interview of Out of the Clouds is Siddha Jain, Chief Business Officer at Bombae, by Bombay Shaving Company,  a premium women’s personal care and grooming brand launched during the pandemic. </p><p>Siddha is a savvy and creative executive who in her own words followed the expected track, first studying hard to first become an engineer, then obtaining an MBA, and later becoming a consultant at Bain & Company. </p><p>Host Anne invites Siddha to talk about her story (hint: her goal is to prove herself). She explains how her mother imbued her with vision and taught her the value of being persistent. She then reveals her own vision, with the not-so-hidden aim to become an expert in other fields, essentially a ‘jack of all trades.’ Siddha also brings her <i>ikigai</i>, the Japanese concept of having a sense of purpose, and shares how her passion for dance and creating events are extracurricular pursuits that connect her to the greater purpose of her life. </p><p>The pair touch on Bombae’s values and the content strategies that the brand uses to connect with its customers, including a collaboration with India’s top women stand-up comedians. And, as a woman at the executive level, Siddha offers her thoughts about what helps her feel confident as well as how and why she brings her full self to work. </p><p>Then Anne asks Siddha to talk about what it’s like to build a brand and design products for a bold and cheeky consumer. Bombae’s mission around hair removal is raised, which leads them to explore the complex relationship women in India and around the world have with their body and facial hair. </p><p>A deeply engaging interview with a thoughtful and passionate woman. Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from episode </p><p>You can find Siddha Jain on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/eat.dance.styleaway/">@eat.dance.styleaway</a></p><p>and on LinkedIn -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/siddha-jain-65a88353/"> https://www.linkedin.com/in/siddha-jain-65a88353/</a></p><p>Maslow's hierarchy of needs <a href="https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html">https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html</a></p><p>Unmaad Festival -<a href="https://www.unmaad.com/"> https://www.unmaad.com/</a></p><p>Bain & Company India - <a href="https://www.bain.com/offices/india/">https://www.bain.com/offices/india/</a></p><p>Jack of all trades full quote - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_of_all_trades,_master_of_none">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_of_all_trades,_master_of_none</a></p><p>Roland Mouret - <a href="https://rolandmouret.com/">https://rolandmouret.com/</a></p><p>Margaret Mead quote - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1071-never-doubt-that-a-small-group-of-thoughtful-committed-citizens">Never doubt</a></p><p>Coke Studio TV program - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coke_Studio_(Indian_TV_program)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coke_Studio_(Indian_TV_program)</a></p><p>#BreakTheHairarchy - <a href="https://brandequity.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/advertising/bombay-shaving-company-women-asks-women-to-breakthehairarchy-in-new-campaign/90019262?redirect=1">https://brandequity.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/advertising/bombay-shaving-company-women-asks-women-to-breakthehairarchy-in-new-campaign/90019262?redirect=1</a></p><p>Actress Alaya F - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/alayaf/?hl=en">https://www.instagram.com/alayaf/?hl=en</a></p><p>Starboy by the Weeknd - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34Na4j8AVgA">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34Na4j8AVgA</a></p><p>A Man Called Ove, the novel <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18774964-a-man-called-ove">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18774964-a-man-called-ove</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback, thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>The guest for this interview of Out of the Clouds is Siddha Jain, Chief Business Officer at Bombae, by Bombay Shaving Company,  a premium women’s personal care and grooming brand launched during the pandemic. </p><p>Siddha is a savvy and creative executive who in her own words followed the expected track, first studying hard to first become an engineer, then obtaining an MBA, and later becoming a consultant at Bain & Company. </p><p>Host Anne invites Siddha to talk about her story (hint: her goal is to prove herself). She explains how her mother imbued her with vision and taught her the value of being persistent. She then reveals her own vision, with the not-so-hidden aim to become an expert in other fields, essentially a ‘jack of all trades.’ Siddha also brings her <i>ikigai</i>, the Japanese concept of having a sense of purpose, and shares how her passion for dance and creating events are extracurricular pursuits that connect her to the greater purpose of her life. </p><p>The pair touch on Bombae’s values and the content strategies that the brand uses to connect with its customers, including a collaboration with India’s top women stand-up comedians. And, as a woman at the executive level, Siddha offers her thoughts about what helps her feel confident as well as how and why she brings her full self to work. </p><p>Then Anne asks Siddha to talk about what it’s like to build a brand and design products for a bold and cheeky consumer. Bombae’s mission around hair removal is raised, which leads them to explore the complex relationship women in India and around the world have with their body and facial hair. </p><p>A deeply engaging interview with a thoughtful and passionate woman. Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from episode </p><p>You can find Siddha Jain on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/eat.dance.styleaway/">@eat.dance.styleaway</a></p><p>and on LinkedIn -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/siddha-jain-65a88353/"> https://www.linkedin.com/in/siddha-jain-65a88353/</a></p><p>Maslow's hierarchy of needs <a href="https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html">https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html</a></p><p>Unmaad Festival -<a href="https://www.unmaad.com/"> https://www.unmaad.com/</a></p><p>Bain & Company India - <a href="https://www.bain.com/offices/india/">https://www.bain.com/offices/india/</a></p><p>Jack of all trades full quote - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_of_all_trades,_master_of_none">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_of_all_trades,_master_of_none</a></p><p>Roland Mouret - <a href="https://rolandmouret.com/">https://rolandmouret.com/</a></p><p>Margaret Mead quote - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1071-never-doubt-that-a-small-group-of-thoughtful-committed-citizens">Never doubt</a></p><p>Coke Studio TV program - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coke_Studio_(Indian_TV_program)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coke_Studio_(Indian_TV_program)</a></p><p>#BreakTheHairarchy - <a href="https://brandequity.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/advertising/bombay-shaving-company-women-asks-women-to-breakthehairarchy-in-new-campaign/90019262?redirect=1">https://brandequity.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/advertising/bombay-shaving-company-women-asks-women-to-breakthehairarchy-in-new-campaign/90019262?redirect=1</a></p><p>Actress Alaya F - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/alayaf/?hl=en">https://www.instagram.com/alayaf/?hl=en</a></p><p>Starboy by the Weeknd - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34Na4j8AVgA">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34Na4j8AVgA</a></p><p>A Man Called Ove, the novel <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18774964-a-man-called-ove">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18774964-a-man-called-ove</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback, thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode of Out of the Clouds, Anne interviews generalist (or jack of all trades) Salman Ansari, also known as the Quick Brown Fox (<a href="https://twitter.com/daretorant">@DareToRant</a>). The talented writer enjoys wearing many different hats — he is a startup founder, a CTO, a web & iOS engineer, a teacher,<a href="https://instagram.com/salmanscribbles"> an illustrator</a> and<a href="https://soundcloud.com/daretodj"> DJ</a>, among other things. </p><p>The two of them start off by talking about Salman’s early career, how he ended up leaving Canada to relocate to California to become a startup co-founder, and the importance of meaningful relationships when making bold career moves. </p><p>Salman explains how a couple of courses, and the popular success among his friends of his blog in college, called Dare to Rant, set him up to start writing online. Salman shares that he discovered that writing essays helped him synthesise the knowledge he was acquiring. </p><p>Anne then leads him to talk about one particular piece, ‘The Polymath Playbook’, which went viral after being tweeted by Tobias Lütke, CEO of Shopify. Salman reflects on how his  personal story (which he almost deleted) had resonated with his readers more than the mental models he’d written about.</p><p>The two of them geek out about why stories are so fundamental to us as humans, what it means for our inner and outer communication and how to best package ideas so they are easier for readers to consume. </p><p>Salman is currently working on a book of fables, which he is illustrating as well, so he spends a bit of time telling Anne how that project came about and the importance of having a community who gets to ask ‘what happens next’ supporting us when things are getting hard. On that note, he also discusses how to figure out when procrastination is at play or whether we just need to continue to work on a piece. </p><p>A few years ago, Salman suffered a burnout and he shares how he created a space for himself with meditation.Then they discuss at length how mindfulness combined with journaling and walking were complementary resources that, in his words, made it impossible for him to gaslight himself, thereby enabling him to make the hard choice to walk away from a job he no longer loved doing. </p><p>A wide-ranging, inspiring and profound interview, happy listening! </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>You can find Salman at <a href="https://salman.io/">https://salman.io/</a></p><p>On twitter @ <a href="https://twitter.com/daretorant">https://twitter.com/daretorant</a></p><p>On Instagram @ <a href="https://www.instagram.com/salmanscribbles/">https://www.instagram.com/salmanscribbles/</a></p><p>On Youtube @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRy_uuWSw_z0g_xav4ZUA0Q/videos?view=0&sort=p">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRy_uuWSw_z0g_xav4ZUA0Q/videos?view=0&sort=p</a></p><p>Salman's blog is <a href="https://salman.io/blog/">https://salman.io/blog/</a></p><p>and you can read the Polymath Playbook here <a href="https://salman.io/blog/polymath-playbook/">https://salman.io/blog/polymath-playbook/</a></p><p>David Perell - <a href="https://perell.com/">https://perell.com/</a></p><p>Write of Passage course - <a href="https://writeofpassage.school/">https://writeofpassage.school/</a></p><p>Seth Godin's blog - <a href="https://seths.blog/">https://seths.blog/</a></p><p>Writing in Community, the Akimbo course - <a href="https://akimbo.com/writingincommunity">https://akimbo.com/writingincommunity</a></p><p>Will Storr's book, The Science of Storytelling - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43183121-the-science-of-storytelling">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43183121-the-science-of-storytelling</a></p><p>Robert McKee's book, Story - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48654.Story?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=PjTpcJtnyL&rank=1">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48654.Story?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=PjTpcJtnyL&rank=1</a></p><p>Amishi Jha's book, Peak Mind - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55200359-peak-mind?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=P738uo7wz4&rank=1">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55200359-peak-mind?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=P738uo7wz4&rank=1</a></p><p>The Little Prince, book by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/157993.The_Little_Prince?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=wgzPcETJAK&rank=1">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/157993.The_Little_Prince?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=wgzPcETJAK&rank=1</a></p><p>Elizabeth Gilbert's book Big Magic - <a href="https://www.elizabethgilbert.com/books/big-magic/">https://www.elizabethgilbert.com/books/big-magic/</a></p><p>The talk by Elizabeth Gilbert Anne and Salman talk about - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSsMjI1OcgM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSsMjI1OcgM</a></p><p>The course 'Psychology for Writers'</p><p>Rest by Alex Soojung-Kim  Pang - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29502354-rest">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29502354-rest</a></p><p>Andy's notes - <a href="https://notes.andymatuschak.org/About_these_notes">https://notes.andymatuschak.org/About_these_notes</a></p><p>The Spotify playlist of Out of the Clouds's guests answering: what song best represents you - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=1d27a0529d65454a">https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=1d27a0529d65454a</a></p><p>*** </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback, thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>On this episode of Out of the Clouds, Anne interviews generalist (or jack of all trades) Salman Ansari, also known as the Quick Brown Fox (<a href="https://twitter.com/daretorant">@DareToRant</a>). The talented writer enjoys wearing many different hats — he is a startup founder, a CTO, a web & iOS engineer, a teacher,<a href="https://instagram.com/salmanscribbles"> an illustrator</a> and<a href="https://soundcloud.com/daretodj"> DJ</a>, among other things. </p><p>The two of them start off by talking about Salman’s early career, how he ended up leaving Canada to relocate to California to become a startup co-founder, and the importance of meaningful relationships when making bold career moves. </p><p>Salman explains how a couple of courses, and the popular success among his friends of his blog in college, called Dare to Rant, set him up to start writing online. Salman shares that he discovered that writing essays helped him synthesise the knowledge he was acquiring. </p><p>Anne then leads him to talk about one particular piece, ‘The Polymath Playbook’, which went viral after being tweeted by Tobias Lütke, CEO of Shopify. Salman reflects on how his  personal story (which he almost deleted) had resonated with his readers more than the mental models he’d written about.</p><p>The two of them geek out about why stories are so fundamental to us as humans, what it means for our inner and outer communication and how to best package ideas so they are easier for readers to consume. </p><p>Salman is currently working on a book of fables, which he is illustrating as well, so he spends a bit of time telling Anne how that project came about and the importance of having a community who gets to ask ‘what happens next’ supporting us when things are getting hard. On that note, he also discusses how to figure out when procrastination is at play or whether we just need to continue to work on a piece. </p><p>A few years ago, Salman suffered a burnout and he shares how he created a space for himself with meditation.Then they discuss at length how mindfulness combined with journaling and walking were complementary resources that, in his words, made it impossible for him to gaslight himself, thereby enabling him to make the hard choice to walk away from a job he no longer loved doing. </p><p>A wide-ranging, inspiring and profound interview, happy listening! </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>You can find Salman at <a href="https://salman.io/">https://salman.io/</a></p><p>On twitter @ <a href="https://twitter.com/daretorant">https://twitter.com/daretorant</a></p><p>On Instagram @ <a href="https://www.instagram.com/salmanscribbles/">https://www.instagram.com/salmanscribbles/</a></p><p>On Youtube @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRy_uuWSw_z0g_xav4ZUA0Q/videos?view=0&sort=p">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRy_uuWSw_z0g_xav4ZUA0Q/videos?view=0&sort=p</a></p><p>Salman's blog is <a href="https://salman.io/blog/">https://salman.io/blog/</a></p><p>and you can read the Polymath Playbook here <a href="https://salman.io/blog/polymath-playbook/">https://salman.io/blog/polymath-playbook/</a></p><p>David Perell - <a href="https://perell.com/">https://perell.com/</a></p><p>Write of Passage course - <a href="https://writeofpassage.school/">https://writeofpassage.school/</a></p><p>Seth Godin's blog - <a href="https://seths.blog/">https://seths.blog/</a></p><p>Writing in Community, the Akimbo course - <a href="https://akimbo.com/writingincommunity">https://akimbo.com/writingincommunity</a></p><p>Will Storr's book, The Science of Storytelling - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43183121-the-science-of-storytelling">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43183121-the-science-of-storytelling</a></p><p>Robert McKee's book, Story - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48654.Story?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=PjTpcJtnyL&rank=1">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48654.Story?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=PjTpcJtnyL&rank=1</a></p><p>Amishi Jha's book, Peak Mind - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55200359-peak-mind?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=P738uo7wz4&rank=1">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55200359-peak-mind?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=P738uo7wz4&rank=1</a></p><p>The Little Prince, book by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/157993.The_Little_Prince?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=wgzPcETJAK&rank=1">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/157993.The_Little_Prince?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=wgzPcETJAK&rank=1</a></p><p>Elizabeth Gilbert's book Big Magic - <a href="https://www.elizabethgilbert.com/books/big-magic/">https://www.elizabethgilbert.com/books/big-magic/</a></p><p>The talk by Elizabeth Gilbert Anne and Salman talk about - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSsMjI1OcgM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSsMjI1OcgM</a></p><p>The course 'Psychology for Writers'</p><p>Rest by Alex Soojung-Kim  Pang - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29502354-rest">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29502354-rest</a></p><p>Andy's notes - <a href="https://notes.andymatuschak.org/About_these_notes">https://notes.andymatuschak.org/About_these_notes</a></p><p>The Spotify playlist of Out of the Clouds's guests answering: what song best represents you - <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=1d27a0529d65454a">https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Viqm1uiiHtM5Y0FwTCtFR?si=1d27a0529d65454a</a></p><p>*** </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback, thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews fashion journalist and writer Ana Santi. </p><p>Ana has held various roles, including deputy editor at Drapers Magazine, a renowned UK fashion trade magazine, before going in-house at a brand called Jigsaw, where she became their first editor in chief. There she launched an in-house magazine and even published a book, called “Comfort Zones”, a collection of original stories by 28 women writers, including<a href="https://pandorasykes.com/"> Pandora Sykes</a>,<a href="https://www.elizabethdayonline.co.uk/"> Elizabeth Day</a>, and<a href="https://www.emmagannon.co.uk/"> Emma Gannon</a> among others for the charity Women for Women International.</p><p>Her new book, “<a href="https://uk.bookshop.org/books/three-things-to-help-heal-the-planet-simple-ideas-from-21-environmental-trailblazers-so-you-can-start-making-a-difference-to/9781801290753?aid=10275"><i>Three Things to Help Heal the Planet</i></a>”, was published in May 2022, and Anne was very keen to get into it with her and to have a conversation about the important topics that are covered across the 21 essays that make up the book.</p><p>So in this interview, the two talk about Ana's journey, from her native Brazil to the UK as an eight-year-old, her love of languages and what brought her to journalism. </p><p>Ana shares how and why working as a fashion reporter was a launching pad towards this new book to talk about sustainability and the possibility of individual action to help the planet — something she outlines is meant for ‘people who have choices’, as she goes on to explain.</p><p>The two end on discussing why we should learn to be better ancestors, and how that possibly will help us leave the planet in what is hopefully a better state than it currently is. </p><p>A thought-provoking, enjoyable interview that will hopefully leave listeners with the desire to both read the book and, if they have the choice, do their bit to help heal the planet. </p><p>Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode:</strong></p><p>You can find Ana at <a href="https://www.ana-santi.com/">https://www.ana-santi.com/</a></p><p>on Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/anasanti1/">https://www.instagram.com/anasanti1/</a></p><p>on Twitter - <a href="https://twitter.com/Ana_C_Santi">https://twitter.com/Ana_C_Santi</a></p><p>on LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ana-santi-8a28a51/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ana-santi-8a28a51/</a></p><p>And find all her info and up to date links via her Link Tree - <a href="https://linktr.ee/anasanti1">https://linktr.ee/anasanti1</a></p><p>Drapers online - <a href="https://www.drapersonline.com/">https://www.drapersonline.com/</a></p><p>The book Comfort Zones - <a href="https://www.ana-santi.com/comfort-zones">https://www.ana-santi.com/comfort-zones</a></p><p>British brand Jigsaw - <a href="https://www.jigsaw-online.com/">https://www.jigsaw-online.com/</a></p><p>Mums for Lungs, the charity - <a href="https://www.mumsforlungs.org/">https://www.mumsforlungs.org/</a></p><p>This Could Be our Future, the book by Yancey Strickler - <a href="https://www.ystrickler.com/book/">https://www.ystrickler.com/book/</a></p><p>The Bento Society - <a href="http://www.bentoism.org/">http://www.bentoism.org/</a></p><p>To Sell is Human, book by Daniel Pink - <a href="https://www.danpink.com/books/to-sell-is-human/">https://www.danpink.com/books/to-sell-is-human/</a></p><p>We Are the Weather, book by Jonathan Safran Foer - <a href="https://wearetheweatherbook.com/">https://wearetheweatherbook.com/</a></p><p>A Beautiful Constraint, book by Adam Morgan and Mark Bardem - <a href="http://www.abeautifulconstraint.com/the-book-2">http://www.abeautifulconstraint.com/the-book-2</a></p><p>Tristram Stuart, the food waste campaigner - <a href="https://www.tristramstuart.co.uk/">https://www.tristramstuart.co.uk/</a></p><p>Robert McKee, author and teacher - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_McKee">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_McKee</a></p><p>Goooders website, ethical and sustainable fashion and accessories - <a href="https://goooders.com/">https://goooders.com/</a></p><p>Sapiens, the book by Yuval Noah Harari - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapiens:_A_Brief_History_of_Humankind">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapiens:_A_Brief_History_of_Humankind</a></p><p>The quote by Ernest Hemingway, about 'finding the emotion - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1135556-find-what-gave-you-emotion-what-the-action-was-that">https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1135556-find-what-gave-you-emotion-what-the-action-was-that</a></p><p>Catch 22, the book by Joseph Heller - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/168668.Catch_22">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/168668.Catch_22</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback, thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews fashion journalist and writer Ana Santi. </p><p>Ana has held various roles, including deputy editor at Drapers Magazine, a renowned UK fashion trade magazine, before going in-house at a brand called Jigsaw, where she became their first editor in chief. There she launched an in-house magazine and even published a book, called “Comfort Zones”, a collection of original stories by 28 women writers, including<a href="https://pandorasykes.com/"> Pandora Sykes</a>,<a href="https://www.elizabethdayonline.co.uk/"> Elizabeth Day</a>, and<a href="https://www.emmagannon.co.uk/"> Emma Gannon</a> among others for the charity Women for Women International.</p><p>Her new book, “<a href="https://uk.bookshop.org/books/three-things-to-help-heal-the-planet-simple-ideas-from-21-environmental-trailblazers-so-you-can-start-making-a-difference-to/9781801290753?aid=10275"><i>Three Things to Help Heal the Planet</i></a>”, was published in May 2022, and Anne was very keen to get into it with her and to have a conversation about the important topics that are covered across the 21 essays that make up the book.</p><p>So in this interview, the two talk about Ana's journey, from her native Brazil to the UK as an eight-year-old, her love of languages and what brought her to journalism. </p><p>Ana shares how and why working as a fashion reporter was a launching pad towards this new book to talk about sustainability and the possibility of individual action to help the planet — something she outlines is meant for ‘people who have choices’, as she goes on to explain.</p><p>The two end on discussing why we should learn to be better ancestors, and how that possibly will help us leave the planet in what is hopefully a better state than it currently is. </p><p>A thought-provoking, enjoyable interview that will hopefully leave listeners with the desire to both read the book and, if they have the choice, do their bit to help heal the planet. </p><p>Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode:</strong></p><p>You can find Ana at <a href="https://www.ana-santi.com/">https://www.ana-santi.com/</a></p><p>on Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/anasanti1/">https://www.instagram.com/anasanti1/</a></p><p>on Twitter - <a href="https://twitter.com/Ana_C_Santi">https://twitter.com/Ana_C_Santi</a></p><p>on LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ana-santi-8a28a51/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ana-santi-8a28a51/</a></p><p>And find all her info and up to date links via her Link Tree - <a href="https://linktr.ee/anasanti1">https://linktr.ee/anasanti1</a></p><p>Drapers online - <a href="https://www.drapersonline.com/">https://www.drapersonline.com/</a></p><p>The book Comfort Zones - <a href="https://www.ana-santi.com/comfort-zones">https://www.ana-santi.com/comfort-zones</a></p><p>British brand Jigsaw - <a href="https://www.jigsaw-online.com/">https://www.jigsaw-online.com/</a></p><p>Mums for Lungs, the charity - <a href="https://www.mumsforlungs.org/">https://www.mumsforlungs.org/</a></p><p>This Could Be our Future, the book by Yancey Strickler - <a href="https://www.ystrickler.com/book/">https://www.ystrickler.com/book/</a></p><p>The Bento Society - <a href="http://www.bentoism.org/">http://www.bentoism.org/</a></p><p>To Sell is Human, book by Daniel Pink - <a href="https://www.danpink.com/books/to-sell-is-human/">https://www.danpink.com/books/to-sell-is-human/</a></p><p>We Are the Weather, book by Jonathan Safran Foer - <a href="https://wearetheweatherbook.com/">https://wearetheweatherbook.com/</a></p><p>A Beautiful Constraint, book by Adam Morgan and Mark Bardem - <a href="http://www.abeautifulconstraint.com/the-book-2">http://www.abeautifulconstraint.com/the-book-2</a></p><p>Tristram Stuart, the food waste campaigner - <a href="https://www.tristramstuart.co.uk/">https://www.tristramstuart.co.uk/</a></p><p>Robert McKee, author and teacher - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_McKee">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_McKee</a></p><p>Goooders website, ethical and sustainable fashion and accessories - <a href="https://goooders.com/">https://goooders.com/</a></p><p>Sapiens, the book by Yuval Noah Harari - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapiens:_A_Brief_History_of_Humankind">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapiens:_A_Brief_History_of_Humankind</a></p><p>The quote by Ernest Hemingway, about 'finding the emotion - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1135556-find-what-gave-you-emotion-what-the-action-was-that">https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1135556-find-what-gave-you-emotion-what-the-action-was-that</a></p><p>Catch 22, the book by Joseph Heller - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/168668.Catch_22">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/168668.Catch_22</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback, thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Nishanth Chopra on connecting the dots, the seed-to-sew model and regenerative farming</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Nishanth Chopra is a young, innovative Indian entrepreneur who in 2016 founded a unique sustainable brand and collective called Oshadi (pronounced aw-sha-dhi, which means ‘essence of nature’ or ‘healing plant’ in Sanskrit -<a href="https://www.instagram.com/oshadi_collective/"> @oshadi_collective</a>)</p><p>In this interview with Anne Muhlethaler, Nishanth tells Anne about growing up in the textile town of Erode and how, after returning from university in the UK, he decided to carve a new path for himself by breaking with the expectations of his family and launch a small sustainable ready-to-wear brand. In his pursuit, Nishanth came to realise the depth of problems that were underlying the traditional fashion production model, even when trying to do it sustainably. He explains to Anne how, out of a desire to look after the earth after creating clothing, from printing and dyeing to weaving and spinning cotton, the collective started cultivating a new fashion system with a 50-acre regenerative cotton farm.</p><p>Nishanth says that if he has any talent it’s really just connecting the dots — right time, right place, right people — and that’s how he was able, step by step, to launch this 'seed to sew concept'. And Oshadi doesn’t just look after not just the soil or think of the finished product. </p><p>Instead, Nishanth shares his vision with the farmers and artisans who collectively work on this project. He says his aim is that <i>the complexity </i>(of figuring out this new respectful way of working with the earth) <i>should end with ‘us’</i> — making it possible for anyone else in the future to replicate this radically transparent model. </p><p>Nishanth also tells Anne how meaningful change can happen when there is collaboration through real respect for someone’s work — something that’s not always shown to Indian craftsmen and women from a Western point of view. </p><p>A unique voice and gifted entrepreneur, who hopefully will leave you inspired. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>*** </p><p>Selected links from episode: </p><p>You can find out more about Nishanth work and Oshadi at <a href="https://oshadi.in/">https://oshadi.in/</a></p><p>on Instagram<a href="https://www.instagram.com/oshadi_collective/"> https://www.instagram.com/oshadi_collective/</a></p><p>And selected press at <a href="https://oshadi.in/pages/press">https://oshadi.in/pages/press</a></p><p>Erode, in Tamil Nadu, where Nishanth grew up<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erode"> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erode</a></p><p>Fibershed's Rebecca Burgess - <a href="https://www.eco-age.com/resources/fibershed-rebecca-burgess-interview">https://www.eco-age.com/resources/fibershed-rebecca-burgess-interview</a></p><p>The film Merku Thodarchi Malai that Nishanth talks about on every podcast - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merku_Thodarchi_Malai">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merku_Thodarchi_Malai</a></p><p>The myth of Sisyphus - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisyphus">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisyphus</a></p><p>Sapiens - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapiens:_A_Brief_History_of_Humankind">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapiens:_A_Brief_History_of_Humankind</a></p><p>The article about soil from the Guardian posted on the Oshadi Instagram - <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/may/07/secret-world-beneath-our-feet-mind-blowing-key-to-planets-future">https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/may/07/secret-world-beneath-our-feet-mind-blowing-key-to-planets-future</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback, thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Nishanth Chopra is a young, innovative Indian entrepreneur who in 2016 founded a unique sustainable brand and collective called Oshadi (pronounced aw-sha-dhi, which means ‘essence of nature’ or ‘healing plant’ in Sanskrit -<a href="https://www.instagram.com/oshadi_collective/"> @oshadi_collective</a>)</p><p>In this interview with Anne Muhlethaler, Nishanth tells Anne about growing up in the textile town of Erode and how, after returning from university in the UK, he decided to carve a new path for himself by breaking with the expectations of his family and launch a small sustainable ready-to-wear brand. In his pursuit, Nishanth came to realise the depth of problems that were underlying the traditional fashion production model, even when trying to do it sustainably. He explains to Anne how, out of a desire to look after the earth after creating clothing, from printing and dyeing to weaving and spinning cotton, the collective started cultivating a new fashion system with a 50-acre regenerative cotton farm.</p><p>Nishanth says that if he has any talent it’s really just connecting the dots — right time, right place, right people — and that’s how he was able, step by step, to launch this 'seed to sew concept'. And Oshadi doesn’t just look after not just the soil or think of the finished product. </p><p>Instead, Nishanth shares his vision with the farmers and artisans who collectively work on this project. He says his aim is that <i>the complexity </i>(of figuring out this new respectful way of working with the earth) <i>should end with ‘us’</i> — making it possible for anyone else in the future to replicate this radically transparent model. </p><p>Nishanth also tells Anne how meaningful change can happen when there is collaboration through real respect for someone’s work — something that’s not always shown to Indian craftsmen and women from a Western point of view. </p><p>A unique voice and gifted entrepreneur, who hopefully will leave you inspired. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>*** </p><p>Selected links from episode: </p><p>You can find out more about Nishanth work and Oshadi at <a href="https://oshadi.in/">https://oshadi.in/</a></p><p>on Instagram<a href="https://www.instagram.com/oshadi_collective/"> https://www.instagram.com/oshadi_collective/</a></p><p>And selected press at <a href="https://oshadi.in/pages/press">https://oshadi.in/pages/press</a></p><p>Erode, in Tamil Nadu, where Nishanth grew up<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erode"> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erode</a></p><p>Fibershed's Rebecca Burgess - <a href="https://www.eco-age.com/resources/fibershed-rebecca-burgess-interview">https://www.eco-age.com/resources/fibershed-rebecca-burgess-interview</a></p><p>The film Merku Thodarchi Malai that Nishanth talks about on every podcast - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merku_Thodarchi_Malai">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merku_Thodarchi_Malai</a></p><p>The myth of Sisyphus - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisyphus">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisyphus</a></p><p>Sapiens - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapiens:_A_Brief_History_of_Humankind">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapiens:_A_Brief_History_of_Humankind</a></p><p>The article about soil from the Guardian posted on the Oshadi Instagram - <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/may/07/secret-world-beneath-our-feet-mind-blowing-key-to-planets-future">https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/may/07/secret-world-beneath-our-feet-mind-blowing-key-to-planets-future</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback, thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Abigail James (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/abigailjames1/">@abigailjames1</a>) is an A-list facialist, well-being expert and author. She is widely known in London as ‘the queen of skin’ and the ‘priestess of facial massage’ and is one of the most sought-after skincare experts of the British Capital. </p><p>Abigail’s YouTube tutorials have been a huge hit, with some of the videos garnering nearly 6.5 million views. </p><p>In our interview, the single mother of three talks to Anne about her journey, from working for her father’s food business to her start in training as a milliner before she switched to study to become a beauty therapist. Abigail had the chance to find her way to Lady Bamford’s organic wellness space in the Cotswolds, which was an important stepping stone in her career. </p><p>In addition, the skin expert, who’s also trained as a yoga teacher, shares the successes and the emotional ups and downs in her journey, or ‘mental health tweaks’ as she calls them. Of course, Abigail talks about the art of face massage, its physical benefits, and the power of positive touch, as well. </p><p>When it comes to looking after our skin, Abigail affirms that education is important. And indeed, knowledge is power — both on the product side but also in understanding the underlying tissues, muscles and bones. </p><p>The woman who’s been named by the press as a ‘skin genius’ doesn’t just use a holistic approach, she also loves to use what technology can offer, relying on safe and advanced tools that support her clients for treatments that are completely bespoke. </p><p>Anne and Abigail discuss the pressures of being online, with Abigail in front of the camera herself, as well as what she sees as trends in the tweakments space. The interview ends with Abigail sharing insights from her new book, “The Glow Plan”, and describing her life philosophy — break down, dust yourself off and try again! </p><p>A moving, inspiring, and very joyful interview. Happy listening! </p><p>***</p><p>You can find Abigail at: <a href="https://www.abigailjames.com/">https://www.abigailjames.com/</a></p><p>On Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/abigailjames1/">https://www.instagram.com/abigailjames1/</a></p><p>On Youtube <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTLWxHt0O27w6Xg2X4EyLrg">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTLWxHt0O27w6Xg2X4EyLrg</a></p><p>On Facebook <a href="https://www.facebook.com/AbigailJamesLondon">https://www.facebook.com/AbigailJamesLondon</a></p><p>On TikTok</p><p>On Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/abigail_james">https://twitter.com/abigail_james</a></p><p>Abigail's books - The Glow Plan and Love Your Skin - <a href="https://www.abigailjames.com/book/">https://www.abigailjames.com/book/ </a></p><p>Beauty NVQ2 and NVQ 3 - what is an NVQ course UK</p><p>Lady Bamford - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carole_Bamford">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carole_Bamford</a></p><p>Bamford in the Cotswolds - <a href="https://www.bamford.com/uk/pages/cotswolds-daylesford-farm">https://www.bamford.com/uk/pages/cotswolds-daylesford-farm</a></p><p>Coworth Park, a Dorchester Collection Hotel - <a href="https://www.dorchestercollection.com/en/ascot/coworth-park/">https://www.dorchestercollection.com/en/ascot/coworth-park/</a></p><p>Francesca White, Tatler - <a href="https://www.tatler.com/profile/francesca-white">https://www.tatler.com/profile/francesca-white</a></p><p>Grace Belgravia - <a href="https://www.studiorhe.com/gracebelgravia">https://www.studiorhe.com/gracebelgravia</a></p><p>Liz Earle Skincare - <a href="https://www.lizearle.com/">https://www.lizearle.com/</a></p><p>Suzanne Faith Yoga - <a href="https://www.suzannefaith.com/">https://www.suzannefaith.com/</a></p><p>Anusara yoga - <a href="https://www.anusarayoga.com/">https://www.anusarayoga.com/</a></p><p>Burnout, a book by Emily and Amelia Nagoski - <a href="https://www.burnoutbook.net/">https://www.burnoutbook.net/</a></p><p>Emily & Amelia Nagoski interviewed by Brené Brown - <a href="https://brenebrown.com/podcast/brene-with-emily-and-amelia-nagoski-on-burnout-and-how-to-complete-the-stress-cycle/">https://brenebrown.com/podcast/brene-with-emily-and-amelia-nagoski-on-burnout-and-how-to-complete-the-stress-cycle/</a></p><p>Rise Up, the song by Andra Day - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBuIBaDSOa4">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBuIBaDSOa4</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Abigail James (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/abigailjames1/">@abigailjames1</a>) is an A-list facialist, well-being expert and author. She is widely known in London as ‘the queen of skin’ and the ‘priestess of facial massage’ and is one of the most sought-after skincare experts of the British Capital. </p><p>Abigail’s YouTube tutorials have been a huge hit, with some of the videos garnering nearly 6.5 million views. </p><p>In our interview, the single mother of three talks to Anne about her journey, from working for her father’s food business to her start in training as a milliner before she switched to study to become a beauty therapist. Abigail had the chance to find her way to Lady Bamford’s organic wellness space in the Cotswolds, which was an important stepping stone in her career. </p><p>In addition, the skin expert, who’s also trained as a yoga teacher, shares the successes and the emotional ups and downs in her journey, or ‘mental health tweaks’ as she calls them. Of course, Abigail talks about the art of face massage, its physical benefits, and the power of positive touch, as well. </p><p>When it comes to looking after our skin, Abigail affirms that education is important. And indeed, knowledge is power — both on the product side but also in understanding the underlying tissues, muscles and bones. </p><p>The woman who’s been named by the press as a ‘skin genius’ doesn’t just use a holistic approach, she also loves to use what technology can offer, relying on safe and advanced tools that support her clients for treatments that are completely bespoke. </p><p>Anne and Abigail discuss the pressures of being online, with Abigail in front of the camera herself, as well as what she sees as trends in the tweakments space. The interview ends with Abigail sharing insights from her new book, “The Glow Plan”, and describing her life philosophy — break down, dust yourself off and try again! </p><p>A moving, inspiring, and very joyful interview. Happy listening! </p><p>***</p><p>You can find Abigail at: <a href="https://www.abigailjames.com/">https://www.abigailjames.com/</a></p><p>On Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/abigailjames1/">https://www.instagram.com/abigailjames1/</a></p><p>On Youtube <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTLWxHt0O27w6Xg2X4EyLrg">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTLWxHt0O27w6Xg2X4EyLrg</a></p><p>On Facebook <a href="https://www.facebook.com/AbigailJamesLondon">https://www.facebook.com/AbigailJamesLondon</a></p><p>On TikTok</p><p>On Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/abigail_james">https://twitter.com/abigail_james</a></p><p>Abigail's books - The Glow Plan and Love Your Skin - <a href="https://www.abigailjames.com/book/">https://www.abigailjames.com/book/ </a></p><p>Beauty NVQ2 and NVQ 3 - what is an NVQ course UK</p><p>Lady Bamford - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carole_Bamford">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carole_Bamford</a></p><p>Bamford in the Cotswolds - <a href="https://www.bamford.com/uk/pages/cotswolds-daylesford-farm">https://www.bamford.com/uk/pages/cotswolds-daylesford-farm</a></p><p>Coworth Park, a Dorchester Collection Hotel - <a href="https://www.dorchestercollection.com/en/ascot/coworth-park/">https://www.dorchestercollection.com/en/ascot/coworth-park/</a></p><p>Francesca White, Tatler - <a href="https://www.tatler.com/profile/francesca-white">https://www.tatler.com/profile/francesca-white</a></p><p>Grace Belgravia - <a href="https://www.studiorhe.com/gracebelgravia">https://www.studiorhe.com/gracebelgravia</a></p><p>Liz Earle Skincare - <a href="https://www.lizearle.com/">https://www.lizearle.com/</a></p><p>Suzanne Faith Yoga - <a href="https://www.suzannefaith.com/">https://www.suzannefaith.com/</a></p><p>Anusara yoga - <a href="https://www.anusarayoga.com/">https://www.anusarayoga.com/</a></p><p>Burnout, a book by Emily and Amelia Nagoski - <a href="https://www.burnoutbook.net/">https://www.burnoutbook.net/</a></p><p>Emily & Amelia Nagoski interviewed by Brené Brown - <a href="https://brenebrown.com/podcast/brene-with-emily-and-amelia-nagoski-on-burnout-and-how-to-complete-the-stress-cycle/">https://brenebrown.com/podcast/brene-with-emily-and-amelia-nagoski-on-burnout-and-how-to-complete-the-stress-cycle/</a></p><p>Rise Up, the song by Andra Day - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBuIBaDSOa4">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBuIBaDSOa4</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Out of the Clouds podcast, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews former Commonwealth British gymnast, dancer, choreographer, entrepreneur and now certified breath coach Aicha McKenzie <a href="https://www.instagram.com/aichamckenzie/">(@AichaMcKenzie</a>). </p><p>Aicha is the CEO and founder of the AMCK Group, which she launched in 2005 with AMCK Dance - an award-winning international premium dance agency with the most elite selection of dancers, choreographers, and creative directors - as well AMCK Models in 2008, London’s only exclusively male model agency, counting over 150 male models on its books, shooting campaigns for Prada, Gucci, Burberry, among many others. </p><p>Aicha has made many TV appearances, appearing as a judge on reality dance shows in the UK and the US. Aicha has also been responsible for choreographing 300 Olympic dancers during the London 2012 Olympic Games.</p><p>Aicha and Anne met on a very special project with burlesque cabaret dancer Dita Von Teese, a filmed performance that was to be turned into a hologram, the keystone of the famed shoe designer Christian Louboutin’s 20th anniversary retrospective at the London Design Museum. </p><p>Over the course of this very personal interview, Aicha shares her amazing story, or her ‘many lives’ as she refers to it: from her first life as the first Black gymnast to win a medal at the Commonwealth Games, supported by her amazing mother, to becoming a commercial dancer and working as a choreographer with top artists, to her latest pursuit launching, running, and expanding an award-winning AMCK Group, which consists of four entities, AMCK Dance, AMCK Models, AMCK Fit and BreatheByAMCK.</p><p>The two of them move to talking about the stress of managing it all, Aicha’s health scares, and how movement has been a through line for her, even in difficult times. The conversation moves to managing burnout, launching a wellness arm with AMCKFit, learning to let things move through and the value in slowing down. </p><p>Anne and Aicha also discuss the power and purpose of our breath. The certified breath coach shares this wisdom: “Breath is the whole story: balance, reset, energise, activate, transform, heal, exhale” and said that she ‘loves working with the breath because it’s allowing that pause to exist, allowing yourself to literally take a breath.’</p><p>Having helped so many talented individuals at some point in their careers, the mother and CEO says that her work in its entirety is about the connection to being oneself, not being someone else or following another's path.</p><p>A very powerful, moving and inspirational interview with an incredible woman. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode </strong></p><p>You can find Aicha on Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/aichamckenzie/">@AichaMcKenzie</a></p><p>On Twitter - <a href="https://twitter.com/aichamckenzie">https://twitter.com/aichamckenzie</a></p><p>Models by AMCK - <a href="http://www.amckmodels.com/">http://www.amckmodels.com/</a></p><p>Dance by AMCK - <a href="https://www.amck.tv/">https://www.amck.tv/</a></p><p>Breathe by AMCK - <a href="https://breathebyamck.com/">https://breathebyamck.com/</a></p><p>NFT recently launched - <a href="https://www.amck.io/">https://www.amck.io/</a></p><p>Pineapple Dance Studios in London - <a href="https://www.pineapple.uk.com/">https://www.pineapple.uk.com/</a></p><p>Alvin Ailey - <a href="https://www.alvinailey.org/">https://www.alvinailey.org/</a></p><p>Julliard School - <a href="https://www.juilliard.edu/">https://www.juilliard.edu/</a></p><p>The Dita Von Teese hologram for Christian Louboutin's Design Museum Retrospective - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZedZN48VgjM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZedZN48VgjM</a></p><p>Aicha interviewed on the Power Hour with Adrienne Herbert - <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/aicha-mckenzie/id1443615779?i=1000432306200">https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/aicha-mckenzie/id1443615779?i=1000432306200</a></p><p>Nadi Shodhana - Alternate nostril breathing - <a href="https://www.webmd.com/balance/what-to-know-about-alternate-nostril-breathing">https://www.webmd.com/balance/what-to-know-about-alternate-nostril-breathing</a></p><p>The article '<a href="https://avm.consulting/looking-forward/something-s-got-to-give">Something's got to give</a>'</p><p>The song '<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEtVfQNTs2I">Optimistic</a>' by Sounds of Blackness </p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18693771-the-body-keeps-the-score">The body keeps the score</a>, book by Bessel van der Kolk </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Out of the Clouds podcast, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews former Commonwealth British gymnast, dancer, choreographer, entrepreneur and now certified breath coach Aicha McKenzie <a href="https://www.instagram.com/aichamckenzie/">(@AichaMcKenzie</a>). </p><p>Aicha is the CEO and founder of the AMCK Group, which she launched in 2005 with AMCK Dance - an award-winning international premium dance agency with the most elite selection of dancers, choreographers, and creative directors - as well AMCK Models in 2008, London’s only exclusively male model agency, counting over 150 male models on its books, shooting campaigns for Prada, Gucci, Burberry, among many others. </p><p>Aicha has made many TV appearances, appearing as a judge on reality dance shows in the UK and the US. Aicha has also been responsible for choreographing 300 Olympic dancers during the London 2012 Olympic Games.</p><p>Aicha and Anne met on a very special project with burlesque cabaret dancer Dita Von Teese, a filmed performance that was to be turned into a hologram, the keystone of the famed shoe designer Christian Louboutin’s 20th anniversary retrospective at the London Design Museum. </p><p>Over the course of this very personal interview, Aicha shares her amazing story, or her ‘many lives’ as she refers to it: from her first life as the first Black gymnast to win a medal at the Commonwealth Games, supported by her amazing mother, to becoming a commercial dancer and working as a choreographer with top artists, to her latest pursuit launching, running, and expanding an award-winning AMCK Group, which consists of four entities, AMCK Dance, AMCK Models, AMCK Fit and BreatheByAMCK.</p><p>The two of them move to talking about the stress of managing it all, Aicha’s health scares, and how movement has been a through line for her, even in difficult times. The conversation moves to managing burnout, launching a wellness arm with AMCKFit, learning to let things move through and the value in slowing down. </p><p>Anne and Aicha also discuss the power and purpose of our breath. The certified breath coach shares this wisdom: “Breath is the whole story: balance, reset, energise, activate, transform, heal, exhale” and said that she ‘loves working with the breath because it’s allowing that pause to exist, allowing yourself to literally take a breath.’</p><p>Having helped so many talented individuals at some point in their careers, the mother and CEO says that her work in its entirety is about the connection to being oneself, not being someone else or following another's path.</p><p>A very powerful, moving and inspirational interview with an incredible woman. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><strong>Selected links from episode </strong></p><p>You can find Aicha on Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/aichamckenzie/">@AichaMcKenzie</a></p><p>On Twitter - <a href="https://twitter.com/aichamckenzie">https://twitter.com/aichamckenzie</a></p><p>Models by AMCK - <a href="http://www.amckmodels.com/">http://www.amckmodels.com/</a></p><p>Dance by AMCK - <a href="https://www.amck.tv/">https://www.amck.tv/</a></p><p>Breathe by AMCK - <a href="https://breathebyamck.com/">https://breathebyamck.com/</a></p><p>NFT recently launched - <a href="https://www.amck.io/">https://www.amck.io/</a></p><p>Pineapple Dance Studios in London - <a href="https://www.pineapple.uk.com/">https://www.pineapple.uk.com/</a></p><p>Alvin Ailey - <a href="https://www.alvinailey.org/">https://www.alvinailey.org/</a></p><p>Julliard School - <a href="https://www.juilliard.edu/">https://www.juilliard.edu/</a></p><p>The Dita Von Teese hologram for Christian Louboutin's Design Museum Retrospective - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZedZN48VgjM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZedZN48VgjM</a></p><p>Aicha interviewed on the Power Hour with Adrienne Herbert - <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/aicha-mckenzie/id1443615779?i=1000432306200">https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/aicha-mckenzie/id1443615779?i=1000432306200</a></p><p>Nadi Shodhana - Alternate nostril breathing - <a href="https://www.webmd.com/balance/what-to-know-about-alternate-nostril-breathing">https://www.webmd.com/balance/what-to-know-about-alternate-nostril-breathing</a></p><p>The article '<a href="https://avm.consulting/looking-forward/something-s-got-to-give">Something's got to give</a>'</p><p>The song '<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEtVfQNTs2I">Optimistic</a>' by Sounds of Blackness </p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18693771-the-body-keeps-the-score">The body keeps the score</a>, book by Bessel van der Kolk </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Anne Muhlethaler interviews Dr Jonathan Kaplan, Ph.D. </p><p>Dr Kaplan is a licensed clinical psychologist, author and teacher, an expert in cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT), an ACT therapist (for Acceptance and Commitment Therapy) and also works with the application of mindfulness and meditation in psychotherapy.</p><p>Dr Kaplan runs the SoHo CBT + Mindfulness Center, he also teaches courses to undergraduates at The New School in "Mindfulness and Meditation in Psychology" and "Culture, Ethnicity, and Mental Health." Prior to that, he taught graduate courses in "Evidence-Based Practice" and "Mindfulness and Meditation in Cognitive Behavioural Therapy." </p><p>He is a visiting faculty member at the Nalanda Institute (which is how Anne came across him), and has held numerous other teaching positions in the past. Dr Kaplan has also written several books, with subjects including the application of mindfulness to city experiences and viewing love and relationships from a modern behavioural perspective. In fall 2020, he also contributed to a playful gift box that incorporated mindfulness with the care of houseplants (i.e., Plantfulness).</p><p>Over the course of this interview, Anne invites Dr Kaplan to talk about his path, which led him from California to Japan and back, and how he left an early career in law to get into psychology, first working on a suicide hotline. He tells Anne about how he began to meditate while serving as a psychology intern, having to lead patients with psychiatric disability in meditation, and the effects he observed on them. The two of them also talk about Urban Mindfulness, the title of the online column and subsequent book Dr Kaplan wrote, and how those of us living in noisy big cities can find calm and navigate through it all. They discuss some of the practices outlined in the book, including how to deal with sensory overload and what Dr Kaplan calls the mindfulness of diversity, to help us explore our biases and blind spots. </p><p>To conclude, the two of them discuss the powerful possibilities and psychological flexibility offered by ACT, how it can help us work with limiting stories, away from cognitive diffusion or experiential avoidance, and how this method (which leans on mindfulness) encourages us to act in the world according to our values. </p><p>A deeply engaging and fascinating interview, full of insights. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>You can find Dr Jonathan Kaplan at Soho CBT - <a href="https://www.sohocbt.com/team/dr-kaplan">https://www.sohocbt.com/team/dr-kaplan</a></p><p>or on LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanskaplan/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanskaplan/</a></p><p><a href="https://nalandainstitute.org/">https://nalandainstitute.org/</a></p><p>His book, Urban Mindfulness <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Urban-Mindfulness-Cultivating-Presence-Purpose/dp/1572247495">https://www.amazon.com/Urban-Mindfulness-Cultivating-Presence-Purpose/dp/1572247495</a></p><p>and his other book ACT and RFT in Relationships <a href="https://www.amazon.com/ACT-RFT-Relationships-Commitments-Acceptance/dp/1608823342/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1655999778&refinements=p_27%3AJonathan+S+Kaplan+PhD&s=books&sr=1-1&text=Jonathan+S+Kaplan+PhD">https://www.amazon.com/ACT-RFT-Relationships-Commitments-Acceptance/dp/1608823342/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1655999778&refinements=p_27%3AJonathan+S+Kaplan+PhD&s=books&sr=1-1&text=Jonathan+S+Kaplan+PhD</a></p><p>The blog post Anne wrote after her a-ha moment, thanks to Dr Kaplan and his lecture on ACT is here <a href="https://avm.consulting/looking-forward/why-i-want-a-flexible-brain">https://avm.consulting/looking-forward/why-i-want-a-flexible-brain</a></p><p>ACT (to sound as the word 'act) or Acceptance & commitment therapy -  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acceptance_and_commitment_therapy">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acceptance_and_commitment_therapy</a></p><p>Steven C Hayes, founder of ACT - <a href="https://stevenchayes.com/about/">https://stevenchayes.com/about/</a></p><p>Dr Herbert Benson and the relaxation response - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Relaxation_Response">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Relaxation_Response</a></p><p>Transcendental meditation or TM - <a href="https://www.tm.org/">https://www.tm.org/</a></p><p>Wu wei - or the concept of non-doing in Taoism - <a href="https://www.theschooloflife.com/article/wu-wei-doing-nothing/">https://www.theschooloflife.com/article/wu-wei-doing-nothing/</a></p><p>Walden, the book by Henry David Thoreau - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walden">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walden</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Anne Muhlethaler interviews Dr Jonathan Kaplan, Ph.D. </p><p>Dr Kaplan is a licensed clinical psychologist, author and teacher, an expert in cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT), an ACT therapist (for Acceptance and Commitment Therapy) and also works with the application of mindfulness and meditation in psychotherapy.</p><p>Dr Kaplan runs the SoHo CBT + Mindfulness Center, he also teaches courses to undergraduates at The New School in "Mindfulness and Meditation in Psychology" and "Culture, Ethnicity, and Mental Health." Prior to that, he taught graduate courses in "Evidence-Based Practice" and "Mindfulness and Meditation in Cognitive Behavioural Therapy." </p><p>He is a visiting faculty member at the Nalanda Institute (which is how Anne came across him), and has held numerous other teaching positions in the past. Dr Kaplan has also written several books, with subjects including the application of mindfulness to city experiences and viewing love and relationships from a modern behavioural perspective. In fall 2020, he also contributed to a playful gift box that incorporated mindfulness with the care of houseplants (i.e., Plantfulness).</p><p>Over the course of this interview, Anne invites Dr Kaplan to talk about his path, which led him from California to Japan and back, and how he left an early career in law to get into psychology, first working on a suicide hotline. He tells Anne about how he began to meditate while serving as a psychology intern, having to lead patients with psychiatric disability in meditation, and the effects he observed on them. The two of them also talk about Urban Mindfulness, the title of the online column and subsequent book Dr Kaplan wrote, and how those of us living in noisy big cities can find calm and navigate through it all. They discuss some of the practices outlined in the book, including how to deal with sensory overload and what Dr Kaplan calls the mindfulness of diversity, to help us explore our biases and blind spots. </p><p>To conclude, the two of them discuss the powerful possibilities and psychological flexibility offered by ACT, how it can help us work with limiting stories, away from cognitive diffusion or experiential avoidance, and how this method (which leans on mindfulness) encourages us to act in the world according to our values. </p><p>A deeply engaging and fascinating interview, full of insights. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>You can find Dr Jonathan Kaplan at Soho CBT - <a href="https://www.sohocbt.com/team/dr-kaplan">https://www.sohocbt.com/team/dr-kaplan</a></p><p>or on LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanskaplan/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanskaplan/</a></p><p><a href="https://nalandainstitute.org/">https://nalandainstitute.org/</a></p><p>His book, Urban Mindfulness <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Urban-Mindfulness-Cultivating-Presence-Purpose/dp/1572247495">https://www.amazon.com/Urban-Mindfulness-Cultivating-Presence-Purpose/dp/1572247495</a></p><p>and his other book ACT and RFT in Relationships <a href="https://www.amazon.com/ACT-RFT-Relationships-Commitments-Acceptance/dp/1608823342/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1655999778&refinements=p_27%3AJonathan+S+Kaplan+PhD&s=books&sr=1-1&text=Jonathan+S+Kaplan+PhD">https://www.amazon.com/ACT-RFT-Relationships-Commitments-Acceptance/dp/1608823342/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1655999778&refinements=p_27%3AJonathan+S+Kaplan+PhD&s=books&sr=1-1&text=Jonathan+S+Kaplan+PhD</a></p><p>The blog post Anne wrote after her a-ha moment, thanks to Dr Kaplan and his lecture on ACT is here <a href="https://avm.consulting/looking-forward/why-i-want-a-flexible-brain">https://avm.consulting/looking-forward/why-i-want-a-flexible-brain</a></p><p>ACT (to sound as the word 'act) or Acceptance & commitment therapy -  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acceptance_and_commitment_therapy">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acceptance_and_commitment_therapy</a></p><p>Steven C Hayes, founder of ACT - <a href="https://stevenchayes.com/about/">https://stevenchayes.com/about/</a></p><p>Dr Herbert Benson and the relaxation response - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Relaxation_Response">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Relaxation_Response</a></p><p>Transcendental meditation or TM - <a href="https://www.tm.org/">https://www.tm.org/</a></p><p>Wu wei - or the concept of non-doing in Taoism - <a href="https://www.theschooloflife.com/article/wu-wei-doing-nothing/">https://www.theschooloflife.com/article/wu-wei-doing-nothing/</a></p><p>Walden, the book by Henry David Thoreau - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walden">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walden</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler reconnects with Archana Jain, an accomplished PR and communications professional, and the founder of PR Pundit, one of India’s top integrated communications firms. Archana has been at the forefront of her industry since her early days in the field and is widely recognised as a leading personality in PR, communication and media. She has been acknowledged as India’s top 100 PR communications professionals, as well as among India’s 50 Most Influential Women in Indian Media, Marketing & Advertising (2019, 2020 & 2021) and featured in the “Top 100 Influential Game Changers List.”</p><p>Anne and Archana collaborated a few years ago, and got to know each other, back when Anne was heading global communications for French shoe designer Christian Louboutin. </p><p>Over the course of this conversation, Archana tells the story of her beginnings in PR, how she went from consulting into working towards consumer-focused communication, to building her company and creating meaningful programs for the right audiences. </p><p>She talks to Anne about why public relations still matters today, how it’s imperative for brands to be telling authentic stories and why PR is a long game - not a quick win, and current challenges given that it’s not an age-old profession. They also discuss changes in the media landscape and the rise of purpose-driven communications and community advocacy, in the age of social media. </p><p>Archana also offers her thoughts on what it’s been like to be a woman at the head of her own business, how the landscape changed in the past twenty years, but also how she chose to  integrate flexibility and WFH capabilities for her team since 2004 - and how satisfying it’s been for her to be able to help women balance their personal and professional commitments. </p><p>You’ll probably notice a loud peacock (or two) in the background, as some were roaming behind Archana’s home office during the interview. A good way to set the scene for this warm and in-depth interview with this influential entrepreneur. Happy listening! </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from the episode:</p><p>You can find Archana on IG <a href="https://www.instagram.com/PRPundit/">@AJPundit</a> and on Twitter @<a href="https://twitter.com/AJPundit">AJPundit</a></p><p>On LinkedIn <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/archana-jain-b858047/">Archana Jain </a></p><p>Find out more about PR Pundit on their website <a href="http://www.prpundit.com/">http://www.prpundit.com/</a> - or on IG <a href="https://www.instagram.com/PRPundit/">https://www.instagram.com/PRPundit/</a></p><p>The origin and meaning of the word Pundit -<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pundit"> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pundit</a></p><p>Tripundra - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripundra">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripundra</a></p><p>Vogue India - <a href="https://www.vogue.in/">https://www.vogue.in/</a></p><p>Adidas Run for the Oceans campaign - <a href="https://thecsrjournal.in/adidas-run-for-the-oceans-unites-over-87k-runners-across-india/">https://thecsrjournal.in/adidas-run-for-the-oceans-unites-over-87k-runners-across-india/</a></p><p>Archana's interview on CommSpeak with Amith Prashu - <a href="https://youtu.be/1Zn2uWJARo0">https://youtu.be/1Zn2uWJARo0</a></p><p>The German tampon PR campaign by Female Company <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/jun/21/no-luxury-book-containing-tampons-is-runaway-hit">via The Guardian</a></p><p>The exceptional Kate Winslet for L'Oréal campaign - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjcd6Xu4MYU">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjcd6Xu4MYU</a></p><p>Parvati Valley - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parvati_Valley">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parvati_Valley</a></p><p>Kashmir Shaivism - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_Shaivism">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_Shaivism</a></p><p>The Hungry Tide, book by Amitav Ghosh <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4950.The_Hungry_Tide">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4950.The_Hungry_Tide</a></p><p>A suitable boy, the book by Vikram Seth <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50365.A_Suitable_Boy">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50365.A_Suitable_Boy</a></p><p>The Emperor of All Maladies, a biography of cancer, the book by <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/3032451.Siddhartha_Mukherjee">Siddhartha Mukherjee</a> <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7170627-the-emperor-of-all-maladies">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7170627-the-emperor-of-all-maladies</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler reconnects with Archana Jain, an accomplished PR and communications professional, and the founder of PR Pundit, one of India’s top integrated communications firms. Archana has been at the forefront of her industry since her early days in the field and is widely recognised as a leading personality in PR, communication and media. She has been acknowledged as India’s top 100 PR communications professionals, as well as among India’s 50 Most Influential Women in Indian Media, Marketing & Advertising (2019, 2020 & 2021) and featured in the “Top 100 Influential Game Changers List.”</p><p>Anne and Archana collaborated a few years ago, and got to know each other, back when Anne was heading global communications for French shoe designer Christian Louboutin. </p><p>Over the course of this conversation, Archana tells the story of her beginnings in PR, how she went from consulting into working towards consumer-focused communication, to building her company and creating meaningful programs for the right audiences. </p><p>She talks to Anne about why public relations still matters today, how it’s imperative for brands to be telling authentic stories and why PR is a long game - not a quick win, and current challenges given that it’s not an age-old profession. They also discuss changes in the media landscape and the rise of purpose-driven communications and community advocacy, in the age of social media. </p><p>Archana also offers her thoughts on what it’s been like to be a woman at the head of her own business, how the landscape changed in the past twenty years, but also how she chose to  integrate flexibility and WFH capabilities for her team since 2004 - and how satisfying it’s been for her to be able to help women balance their personal and professional commitments. </p><p>You’ll probably notice a loud peacock (or two) in the background, as some were roaming behind Archana’s home office during the interview. A good way to set the scene for this warm and in-depth interview with this influential entrepreneur. Happy listening! </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from the episode:</p><p>You can find Archana on IG <a href="https://www.instagram.com/PRPundit/">@AJPundit</a> and on Twitter @<a href="https://twitter.com/AJPundit">AJPundit</a></p><p>On LinkedIn <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/archana-jain-b858047/">Archana Jain </a></p><p>Find out more about PR Pundit on their website <a href="http://www.prpundit.com/">http://www.prpundit.com/</a> - or on IG <a href="https://www.instagram.com/PRPundit/">https://www.instagram.com/PRPundit/</a></p><p>The origin and meaning of the word Pundit -<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pundit"> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pundit</a></p><p>Tripundra - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripundra">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripundra</a></p><p>Vogue India - <a href="https://www.vogue.in/">https://www.vogue.in/</a></p><p>Adidas Run for the Oceans campaign - <a href="https://thecsrjournal.in/adidas-run-for-the-oceans-unites-over-87k-runners-across-india/">https://thecsrjournal.in/adidas-run-for-the-oceans-unites-over-87k-runners-across-india/</a></p><p>Archana's interview on CommSpeak with Amith Prashu - <a href="https://youtu.be/1Zn2uWJARo0">https://youtu.be/1Zn2uWJARo0</a></p><p>The German tampon PR campaign by Female Company <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/jun/21/no-luxury-book-containing-tampons-is-runaway-hit">via The Guardian</a></p><p>The exceptional Kate Winslet for L'Oréal campaign - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjcd6Xu4MYU">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjcd6Xu4MYU</a></p><p>Parvati Valley - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parvati_Valley">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parvati_Valley</a></p><p>Kashmir Shaivism - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_Shaivism">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_Shaivism</a></p><p>The Hungry Tide, book by Amitav Ghosh <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4950.The_Hungry_Tide">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4950.The_Hungry_Tide</a></p><p>A suitable boy, the book by Vikram Seth <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50365.A_Suitable_Boy">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50365.A_Suitable_Boy</a></p><p>The Emperor of All Maladies, a biography of cancer, the book by <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/3032451.Siddhartha_Mukherjee">Siddhartha Mukherjee</a> <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7170627-the-emperor-of-all-maladies">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7170627-the-emperor-of-all-maladies</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Jennifer Fisher on building a business, talismans and making smarter choices</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2022 19:23:56 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews her friend, New York-based jewelry designer Jennifer Fisher. The two met in New York, many moons ago, over a long dinner at Mr Chow’s in Tribeca and had an instantaneous bond. </p><p>Jennifer is a member of the Council of Fashion Designers of America (CFDA), a nominee for the 2020 and 2019 Accessory Designer of the Year at the annual CFDA Awards, a recipient of the 2018 Town & Country Jewelry Award for Retail Innovation, the 2016 Influencer of the Year at the annual Accessories Council Excellence (ACE) Awards and was a nominee for the CFDA Swarovski Accessories award in 2014. She speaks frequently about strategic leadership, brand building and empowering the next generation of fashion entrepreneurs.</p><p>A long-time wardrobe stylist who grew up in California, Jennifer started making jewelry after her son Shane was born, which followed treatment for a tumor in her chest and several failed rounds of IVF. In their conversation, she tells Anne the story of creating that talisman, a special piece that became a powerful charm to mark the birth of her baby, and how it became a natural starting point for her brand. </p><p>A born entrepreneur, Jennifer shares how at age five she was already selling caterpillar hair clips and button earrings to the local store. She also tells Anne how growing up, she watched her polo-playing, silversmith grandfather solder bolo ties and belt buckles, a likely inspiration for her own jewelry making. </p><p>Of course they discuss business, too, including how Jennifer cultivates a positive mindset despite the stress of her career (especially in the last two years), and how she lets herself learn from things that don’t work. </p><p>The two also talk in depth about the way they eat, because Jennifer, a wonderful cook, recently launched a line of condiments, Jennifer Fisher Salt (the ultimate seasoning, as it’s been dubbed by Goop). They also connect on the importance of making smarter choices when it comes to food and their personal reasons for that, too.  </p><p>They finish by talking about Jennifer’s latest venture, a new fragrance (which she describes is like a cookie on vacation!) and the wonderful partnership she has with Kevin, her husband, both at work and at home. </p><p>An inspiring, joyful and very personal conversation. Happy listening! </p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from episode: </p><p>You can find Jennifer at <a href="https://jenniferfisherjewelry.com/">https://jenniferfisherjewelry.com/</a></p><p>Discover the salts & Jen's recipes at <a href="https://jenniferfisherjewelry.com/collections/salts">https://jenniferfisherjewelry.com/collections/salts</a></p><p>Follow Jennifer on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jenniferfisherjewelry/">https://www.instagram.com/jenniferfisherjewelry/</a></p><p>And <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jenniferfisherkitchen/">https://www.instagram.com/jenniferfisherkitchen/</a></p><p>or Facebook <a href="https://www.facebook.com/JenniferFisherJewelry">https://www.facebook.com/JenniferFisherJewelry</a></p><p>Photographer Luke Gilford <a href="https://www.lukegilford.com/">https://www.lukegilford.com/</a></p><p>and his portraits of Pamela Anderson <a href="https://www.pamelaandersonfoundation.org/news/2016/2/26/movies-by-luke-gilford">https://www.pamelaandersonfoundation.org/news/2016/2/26/movies-by-luke-gilford</a></p><p>The Glamour Magazine cover with Uma Thurman <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Glamour-Magazine-July-2006-Thurman/dp/B0026C424A">https://www.amazon.com/Glamour-Magazine-July-2006-Thurman/dp/B0026C424A</a></p><p>Jennifer's custom charm necklaces <a href="https://jenniferfisherjewelry.com/collections/charms-1">https://jenniferfisherjewelry.com/collections/charms-1</a></p><p><a href="https://www.glamour.com/story/jennifer-fisher-cfda-award-n">https://www.glamour.com/story/jennifer-fisher-cfda-award-n</a></p><p>Tasis School in Lugano <a href="https://www.tasis.ch/">https://www.tasis.ch/</a></p><p>Hashimoto's disease <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashimoto%27s_thyroiditis">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashimoto%27s_thyroiditis</a></p><p>The book Jennifer swears by, Ketotarian by Dr Will Cole - <a href="https://drwillcole.com/ketotarian">https://drwillcole.com/ketotarian</a></p><p>A book Anne swears by, A Beautiful Constraint - <a href="http://www.abeautifulconstraint.com/the-book-2">http://www.abeautifulconstraint.com/the-book-2</a></p><p>The song Bitch better have my money by Rihanna -  <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/0NTMtAO2BV4tnGvw9EgBVq?autoplay=true">https://open.spotify.com/track/0NTMtAO2BV4tnGvw9EgBVq?autoplay=true</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews her friend, New York-based jewelry designer Jennifer Fisher. The two met in New York, many moons ago, over a long dinner at Mr Chow’s in Tribeca and had an instantaneous bond. </p><p>Jennifer is a member of the Council of Fashion Designers of America (CFDA), a nominee for the 2020 and 2019 Accessory Designer of the Year at the annual CFDA Awards, a recipient of the 2018 Town & Country Jewelry Award for Retail Innovation, the 2016 Influencer of the Year at the annual Accessories Council Excellence (ACE) Awards and was a nominee for the CFDA Swarovski Accessories award in 2014. She speaks frequently about strategic leadership, brand building and empowering the next generation of fashion entrepreneurs.</p><p>A long-time wardrobe stylist who grew up in California, Jennifer started making jewelry after her son Shane was born, which followed treatment for a tumor in her chest and several failed rounds of IVF. In their conversation, she tells Anne the story of creating that talisman, a special piece that became a powerful charm to mark the birth of her baby, and how it became a natural starting point for her brand. </p><p>A born entrepreneur, Jennifer shares how at age five she was already selling caterpillar hair clips and button earrings to the local store. She also tells Anne how growing up, she watched her polo-playing, silversmith grandfather solder bolo ties and belt buckles, a likely inspiration for her own jewelry making. </p><p>Of course they discuss business, too, including how Jennifer cultivates a positive mindset despite the stress of her career (especially in the last two years), and how she lets herself learn from things that don’t work. </p><p>The two also talk in depth about the way they eat, because Jennifer, a wonderful cook, recently launched a line of condiments, Jennifer Fisher Salt (the ultimate seasoning, as it’s been dubbed by Goop). They also connect on the importance of making smarter choices when it comes to food and their personal reasons for that, too.  </p><p>They finish by talking about Jennifer’s latest venture, a new fragrance (which she describes is like a cookie on vacation!) and the wonderful partnership she has with Kevin, her husband, both at work and at home. </p><p>An inspiring, joyful and very personal conversation. Happy listening! </p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from episode: </p><p>You can find Jennifer at <a href="https://jenniferfisherjewelry.com/">https://jenniferfisherjewelry.com/</a></p><p>Discover the salts & Jen's recipes at <a href="https://jenniferfisherjewelry.com/collections/salts">https://jenniferfisherjewelry.com/collections/salts</a></p><p>Follow Jennifer on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jenniferfisherjewelry/">https://www.instagram.com/jenniferfisherjewelry/</a></p><p>And <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jenniferfisherkitchen/">https://www.instagram.com/jenniferfisherkitchen/</a></p><p>or Facebook <a href="https://www.facebook.com/JenniferFisherJewelry">https://www.facebook.com/JenniferFisherJewelry</a></p><p>Photographer Luke Gilford <a href="https://www.lukegilford.com/">https://www.lukegilford.com/</a></p><p>and his portraits of Pamela Anderson <a href="https://www.pamelaandersonfoundation.org/news/2016/2/26/movies-by-luke-gilford">https://www.pamelaandersonfoundation.org/news/2016/2/26/movies-by-luke-gilford</a></p><p>The Glamour Magazine cover with Uma Thurman <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Glamour-Magazine-July-2006-Thurman/dp/B0026C424A">https://www.amazon.com/Glamour-Magazine-July-2006-Thurman/dp/B0026C424A</a></p><p>Jennifer's custom charm necklaces <a href="https://jenniferfisherjewelry.com/collections/charms-1">https://jenniferfisherjewelry.com/collections/charms-1</a></p><p><a href="https://www.glamour.com/story/jennifer-fisher-cfda-award-n">https://www.glamour.com/story/jennifer-fisher-cfda-award-n</a></p><p>Tasis School in Lugano <a href="https://www.tasis.ch/">https://www.tasis.ch/</a></p><p>Hashimoto's disease <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashimoto%27s_thyroiditis">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashimoto%27s_thyroiditis</a></p><p>The book Jennifer swears by, Ketotarian by Dr Will Cole - <a href="https://drwillcole.com/ketotarian">https://drwillcole.com/ketotarian</a></p><p>A book Anne swears by, A Beautiful Constraint - <a href="http://www.abeautifulconstraint.com/the-book-2">http://www.abeautifulconstraint.com/the-book-2</a></p><p>The song Bitch better have my money by Rihanna -  <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/0NTMtAO2BV4tnGvw9EgBVq?autoplay=true">https://open.spotify.com/track/0NTMtAO2BV4tnGvw9EgBVq?autoplay=true</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Wesley Faulkner on how community shapes us, inclusion and neurodiversity</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, host of Out of the Clouds Anne Muhlethaler interviews Wesley Faulkner. </p><p>Wesley is a first-generation American, public speaker, and podcaster, and he currently works as a Head of Community at SingleStore, co-hosts the developer relations focused podcast Community Pulse and serves on the board for South by Southwest. He is a founding member of the government transparency group Open Austin and a staunch supporter of racial justice, workplace equity and neurodiversity. </p><p>A tech enthusiast since his teens, Wesley first trained as an electrical and computer engineer (despite growing up without owning a personal computer himself). He shares the arc of his multipronged career from hardware to software, how being an early adopter of Twitter led him to social media management, and later to ‘dev rel’ (or developer relations). </p><p>The two discuss how Wesley navigated his life and career with a late diagnosis of ADHD and dyslexia, and how he became a passionate advocate for neurodiverse populations in the work environment. </p><p>His THAT conference keynote, ‘Be like me… different’ was a great starting point to discuss how ‘community shapes us’, in which Wesley offers his perspective on the evolution of the role of social media manager, what to consider to create a community and his vision for the metaverse. </p><p>Finally, Wesley offers his thoughts on how organisations can work towards being more inclusive for neurodivergent team members, including by measuring effort, not just success, and encouraging experimentation. </p><p>A very passionate, in-depth and honest conversation. Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from episode </p><p>You cand find Wesley on Polywork and on Twitter </p><p>On LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wesley83/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/wesley83/</a></p><p>AMD - <a href="https://www.amd.com/en">https://www.amd.com/en</a></p><p>DevRel - or developer relations - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developer_relations">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developer_relations</a></p><p>THAT conference - <a href="https://that.us/that-conference/">https://that.us/that-conference/</a></p><p>Wesley's keynote 'Be just like me... different' - <a href="https://that.us/activities/f0ByacQCrzrCC5kYNsMo">https://that.us/activities/f0ByacQCrzrCC5kYNsMo</a></p><p>which you can watch on Youtube - <a href="https://youtu.be/YP7RfeX8xnY">https://youtu.be/YP7RfeX8xnY</a></p><p>The Workology Podcast with Wesley Faulkner - <a href="https://www.peatworks.org/podcast-neurodiversity-intersectionality-a-disclosure-challenge/">https://www.peatworks.org/podcast-neurodiversity-intersectionality-a-disclosure-challenge/</a></p><p>SMART goals - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMART_criteria">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMART_criteria</a></p><p>Priya Parker book - <a href="https://www.priyaparker.com/thebook">The Art of Gathering </a></p><p>You Can Change Other People book - <a href="https://bregmanpartners.com/books/you-can-change-other-people/">https://bregmanpartners.com/books/you-can-change-other-people/</a></p><p>The End of Bias book by Jessica Nordell - <a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250186188/theendofbiasabeginning">https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250186188/theendofbiasabeginning</a></p><p>Don't Worry, Be Happy by Bobby McFerrin - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, host of Out of the Clouds Anne Muhlethaler interviews Wesley Faulkner. </p><p>Wesley is a first-generation American, public speaker, and podcaster, and he currently works as a Head of Community at SingleStore, co-hosts the developer relations focused podcast Community Pulse and serves on the board for South by Southwest. He is a founding member of the government transparency group Open Austin and a staunch supporter of racial justice, workplace equity and neurodiversity. </p><p>A tech enthusiast since his teens, Wesley first trained as an electrical and computer engineer (despite growing up without owning a personal computer himself). He shares the arc of his multipronged career from hardware to software, how being an early adopter of Twitter led him to social media management, and later to ‘dev rel’ (or developer relations). </p><p>The two discuss how Wesley navigated his life and career with a late diagnosis of ADHD and dyslexia, and how he became a passionate advocate for neurodiverse populations in the work environment. </p><p>His THAT conference keynote, ‘Be like me… different’ was a great starting point to discuss how ‘community shapes us’, in which Wesley offers his perspective on the evolution of the role of social media manager, what to consider to create a community and his vision for the metaverse. </p><p>Finally, Wesley offers his thoughts on how organisations can work towards being more inclusive for neurodivergent team members, including by measuring effort, not just success, and encouraging experimentation. </p><p>A very passionate, in-depth and honest conversation. Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from episode </p><p>You cand find Wesley on Polywork and on Twitter </p><p>On LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wesley83/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/wesley83/</a></p><p>AMD - <a href="https://www.amd.com/en">https://www.amd.com/en</a></p><p>DevRel - or developer relations - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developer_relations">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developer_relations</a></p><p>THAT conference - <a href="https://that.us/that-conference/">https://that.us/that-conference/</a></p><p>Wesley's keynote 'Be just like me... different' - <a href="https://that.us/activities/f0ByacQCrzrCC5kYNsMo">https://that.us/activities/f0ByacQCrzrCC5kYNsMo</a></p><p>which you can watch on Youtube - <a href="https://youtu.be/YP7RfeX8xnY">https://youtu.be/YP7RfeX8xnY</a></p><p>The Workology Podcast with Wesley Faulkner - <a href="https://www.peatworks.org/podcast-neurodiversity-intersectionality-a-disclosure-challenge/">https://www.peatworks.org/podcast-neurodiversity-intersectionality-a-disclosure-challenge/</a></p><p>SMART goals - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMART_criteria">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMART_criteria</a></p><p>Priya Parker book - <a href="https://www.priyaparker.com/thebook">The Art of Gathering </a></p><p>You Can Change Other People book - <a href="https://bregmanpartners.com/books/you-can-change-other-people/">https://bregmanpartners.com/books/you-can-change-other-people/</a></p><p>The End of Bias book by Jessica Nordell - <a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250186188/theendofbiasabeginning">https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250186188/theendofbiasabeginning</a></p><p>Don't Worry, Be Happy by Bobby McFerrin - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Anne Muhlethaler, host of<a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/podcasts/"> Out of the Clouds,</a> interviews consultant and experience design specialist Jenny Sauer-Klein. </p><p>Jenny is passionate about how we get together as groups and how we learn, and she regularly consults for organisations like Google, Airbnb, Dropbox and the Haas School of Business. She is a wonderful facilitator who has spent her life creating lasting experiences for a myriad of different audiences and is a frequent presenter at international conferences and has been featured in The New York Times, Forbes, Fast Company, and Inc., as well as Tim Ferriss’ book “Tools of Titans”.</p><p>In this conversation, the native New Yorker shares with Anne her personal journey, how she went from Broadway actress to yoga teacher, which led her to therapeutic acrobatics and then on to launching AcroYoga with co-founder Jason Nemer. </p><p>Jenny talks about how she stepped away from this previous career despite having scaled AcroYoga to an international brand, community and organisation with millions of practitioners, and how she came later to understand that the values that AcroYoga was based on -- trust, connection and playfulness -- were still her core values that would guide her towards her next steps.</p><p>Jenny also explains her thoughts on how we gather and learn. The two go over some of the pillars of the experience design training program Jenny created (named Scaling Intimacy, which Anne took last year) and how you can help people make a crowd of 100 people feel like a gathering of 10. The three-day workshop caters to those wanting to develop interactive and engaging live events where collaborative learning and connection are privileged over content. ​​​   </p><p>Finally, the new mom talks about her experience of pregnancy during COVID, and distils the essence of the TED talk she gave (while 8 months pregnant) in January 2021 on the 3 Keys to Virtual Connection. </p><p>If you are into leading engaging events or want to create meaningful experiences and inspire your communities with a sense of purpose and connection, this is the episode for you. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>*** </p><p>Selected Links from Episode </p><p>You can find Jenny at <a href="https://www.jennysauerklein.com/">https://www.jennysauerklein.com/</a></p><p>And Scaling Intimacy School of Experience Design - <a href="https://scalingintimacy.com/">https://scalingintimacy.com/</a></p><p>Play on Purpose - <a href="https://playonpurpose.com/">https://playonpurpose.com/</a></p><p>You can watch Jenny's TED talk, the 3 keys of virtual connection <a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/jenny_sauer_klein_3_keys_to_virtual_connection">https://www.ted.com/talks/jenny_sauer_klein_3_keys_to_virtual_connection</a></p><p>Ken Nateshvar Scott <a href="https://contactyoga.com/">https://contactyoga.com/</a></p><p>Jason Nemer and <a href="https://www.acroyoga.org/">Acro Yoga</a></p><p>Learning zones framework - <a href="https://www.mindtools.com/pages/article/learning-zone-model.htm">https://www.mindtools.com/pages/article/learning-zone-model.htm</a></p><p>Pryia Parker - <a href="https://www.priyaparker.com/thebook">The Art of Gathering</a> book</p><p>The study by Arthur Aarons about interpersonal closeness <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167297234003">https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167297234003</a></p><p>Business Insider article on Breema, Tim Ferriss and no hurry, no pause <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/how-tim-ferriss-keeps-from-burning-out-2017-1?r=US&IR=T">https://www.businessinsider.com/how-tim-ferriss-keeps-from-burning-out-2017-1?r=US&IR=T</a></p><p>Breema - <a href="https://www.breema.com/">https://www.breema.com/</a></p><p>The Red Tent - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4989.The_Red_Tent">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4989.The_Red_Tent</a></p><p>Stinson Beach - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stinson_Beach,_California">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stinson_Beach,_California</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ootQs7sVulY">The song Ani Kuni</a> by Polo & Pan </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Anne Muhlethaler, host of<a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/podcasts/"> Out of the Clouds,</a> interviews consultant and experience design specialist Jenny Sauer-Klein. </p><p>Jenny is passionate about how we get together as groups and how we learn, and she regularly consults for organisations like Google, Airbnb, Dropbox and the Haas School of Business. She is a wonderful facilitator who has spent her life creating lasting experiences for a myriad of different audiences and is a frequent presenter at international conferences and has been featured in The New York Times, Forbes, Fast Company, and Inc., as well as Tim Ferriss’ book “Tools of Titans”.</p><p>In this conversation, the native New Yorker shares with Anne her personal journey, how she went from Broadway actress to yoga teacher, which led her to therapeutic acrobatics and then on to launching AcroYoga with co-founder Jason Nemer. </p><p>Jenny talks about how she stepped away from this previous career despite having scaled AcroYoga to an international brand, community and organisation with millions of practitioners, and how she came later to understand that the values that AcroYoga was based on -- trust, connection and playfulness -- were still her core values that would guide her towards her next steps.</p><p>Jenny also explains her thoughts on how we gather and learn. The two go over some of the pillars of the experience design training program Jenny created (named Scaling Intimacy, which Anne took last year) and how you can help people make a crowd of 100 people feel like a gathering of 10. The three-day workshop caters to those wanting to develop interactive and engaging live events where collaborative learning and connection are privileged over content. ​​​   </p><p>Finally, the new mom talks about her experience of pregnancy during COVID, and distils the essence of the TED talk she gave (while 8 months pregnant) in January 2021 on the 3 Keys to Virtual Connection. </p><p>If you are into leading engaging events or want to create meaningful experiences and inspire your communities with a sense of purpose and connection, this is the episode for you. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>*** </p><p>Selected Links from Episode </p><p>You can find Jenny at <a href="https://www.jennysauerklein.com/">https://www.jennysauerklein.com/</a></p><p>And Scaling Intimacy School of Experience Design - <a href="https://scalingintimacy.com/">https://scalingintimacy.com/</a></p><p>Play on Purpose - <a href="https://playonpurpose.com/">https://playonpurpose.com/</a></p><p>You can watch Jenny's TED talk, the 3 keys of virtual connection <a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/jenny_sauer_klein_3_keys_to_virtual_connection">https://www.ted.com/talks/jenny_sauer_klein_3_keys_to_virtual_connection</a></p><p>Ken Nateshvar Scott <a href="https://contactyoga.com/">https://contactyoga.com/</a></p><p>Jason Nemer and <a href="https://www.acroyoga.org/">Acro Yoga</a></p><p>Learning zones framework - <a href="https://www.mindtools.com/pages/article/learning-zone-model.htm">https://www.mindtools.com/pages/article/learning-zone-model.htm</a></p><p>Pryia Parker - <a href="https://www.priyaparker.com/thebook">The Art of Gathering</a> book</p><p>The study by Arthur Aarons about interpersonal closeness <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167297234003">https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167297234003</a></p><p>Business Insider article on Breema, Tim Ferriss and no hurry, no pause <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/how-tim-ferriss-keeps-from-burning-out-2017-1?r=US&IR=T">https://www.businessinsider.com/how-tim-ferriss-keeps-from-burning-out-2017-1?r=US&IR=T</a></p><p>Breema - <a href="https://www.breema.com/">https://www.breema.com/</a></p><p>The Red Tent - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4989.The_Red_Tent">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4989.The_Red_Tent</a></p><p>Stinson Beach - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stinson_Beach,_California">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stinson_Beach,_California</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ootQs7sVulY">The song Ani Kuni</a> by Polo & Pan </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Manfreda Cavazza on not fitting in, the craft of writing and adopting an audience-first mindset</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews writer, copy editor and journalist Manfreda Cavazza.</p><p>The two have been collaborating since late 2020, with Manfreda supporting Anne in her writing for the blog and newsletter she publishes weekly for her company, AVM Consulting. They share a number of values, including, among other things, a love of words well used, storytelling and values-driven strategies. </p><p>In this interview, the Italian-English writer shares stories about her childhood spent between Brazil, Italy and England, her beginnings as a journalist in London covering the retail sector, and her adventures sailing around the world for a year with her husband and two young daughters. </p><p>Manfreda loves to talk about voice - the importance of purposeful writing and tone - as a tool for brands or freelancers to leverage when crafting their message so they find the right audience. The two talk about thinking of the audience first, why they dislike the word “content,” and how we could all do well to remember to use a little humour in writing copy. </p><p>For anyone who cares about how writing can support connection with your clients or audience, this is a wonderful interview full of applicable insights. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from episode </p><p>You can find Manfreda at <a href="https://www.manfredacavazza.com/">https://www.manfredacavazza.com/</a></p><p>or on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/manfreda-cavazza-69bb9632/?originalSubdomain=uk">LinkedIn</a> and Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/freddiewrites78/?hl=en">@freddiewrite78</a></p><p>Read Manfreda's travel blog <a href="https://smallhandsondeck.wordpress.com/">https://smallhandsondeck.wordpress.com/</a></p><p>Mahon, one of Manfreda's favorite spots <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mah%C3%B3n">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mah%C3%B3n</a></p><p>Princess Diana Beach in Barbuda <a href="https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g147253-d11998734-Reviews-Princess_Diana_Beach-Barbuda_Antigua_and_Barbuda.html">https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g147253-d11998734-Reviews-Princess_Diana_Beach-Barbuda_Antigua_and_Barbuda.html</a></p><p>Ann Handley, who Manfreda quotes <a href="https://annhandley.com/">https://annhandley.com/</a></p><p>and writer Anne Lamott <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Lamott">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Lamott</a></p><p>Tony's Chocolonely - <a href="https://tonyschocolonely.com/int/en">https://tonyschocolonely.com/int/en</a></p><p>Mailchimp's Tone & Voice document - <a href="https://styleguide.mailchimp.com/voice-and-tone/">https://styleguide.mailchimp.com/voice-and-tone/</a></p><p>Any Human Heart by William Boyd - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Any_Human_Heart">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Any_Human_Heart</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews writer, copy editor and journalist Manfreda Cavazza.</p><p>The two have been collaborating since late 2020, with Manfreda supporting Anne in her writing for the blog and newsletter she publishes weekly for her company, AVM Consulting. They share a number of values, including, among other things, a love of words well used, storytelling and values-driven strategies. </p><p>In this interview, the Italian-English writer shares stories about her childhood spent between Brazil, Italy and England, her beginnings as a journalist in London covering the retail sector, and her adventures sailing around the world for a year with her husband and two young daughters. </p><p>Manfreda loves to talk about voice - the importance of purposeful writing and tone - as a tool for brands or freelancers to leverage when crafting their message so they find the right audience. The two talk about thinking of the audience first, why they dislike the word “content,” and how we could all do well to remember to use a little humour in writing copy. </p><p>For anyone who cares about how writing can support connection with your clients or audience, this is a wonderful interview full of applicable insights. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from episode </p><p>You can find Manfreda at <a href="https://www.manfredacavazza.com/">https://www.manfredacavazza.com/</a></p><p>or on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/manfreda-cavazza-69bb9632/?originalSubdomain=uk">LinkedIn</a> and Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/freddiewrites78/?hl=en">@freddiewrite78</a></p><p>Read Manfreda's travel blog <a href="https://smallhandsondeck.wordpress.com/">https://smallhandsondeck.wordpress.com/</a></p><p>Mahon, one of Manfreda's favorite spots <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mah%C3%B3n">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mah%C3%B3n</a></p><p>Princess Diana Beach in Barbuda <a href="https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g147253-d11998734-Reviews-Princess_Diana_Beach-Barbuda_Antigua_and_Barbuda.html">https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g147253-d11998734-Reviews-Princess_Diana_Beach-Barbuda_Antigua_and_Barbuda.html</a></p><p>Ann Handley, who Manfreda quotes <a href="https://annhandley.com/">https://annhandley.com/</a></p><p>and writer Anne Lamott <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Lamott">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Lamott</a></p><p>Tony's Chocolonely - <a href="https://tonyschocolonely.com/int/en">https://tonyschocolonely.com/int/en</a></p><p>Mailchimp's Tone & Voice document - <a href="https://styleguide.mailchimp.com/voice-and-tone/">https://styleguide.mailchimp.com/voice-and-tone/</a></p><p>Any Human Heart by William Boyd - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Any_Human_Heart">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Any_Human_Heart</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews celebrity fitness trainer and former ballerina Julie Granger. Anne came across Julie via an online recommendation and was immediately struck not only by the instructor’s passion for teaching and the effectiveness of her classes (particularly Brooklyn Barre), but also by the combination of her warmth and dry sense of humour. </p><p>In this interview, they dig into Julie’s journey from the outskirts of Paris to the Boston Ballet, why she left her ballerina career behind, and how she decided to pursue new callings, including yoga, fitness and entrepreneurship. </p><p>Currently based between Paris and Lisbon, Julie explains how she is ‘three-quarters teacher’, and why she is not teaching by default but as a choice since it’s something she truly loves. Having opened her first studio the week before the first COVID lockdown in 2020, the ex-ballerina opens up on the difficulties she faced then and how grateful she is to have been able to continue to lead her community of students (her ‘Squad,’ as she calls them) virtually.  </p><p>Anne and Julie discuss the competitive culture of celebrity trainers in New York and the benefits of discipline and passion. Julie also shares how she wants to offer her students not just the benefits of a toned and energised body but for them to have a great time while engaging with fitness, as well as how she hopes to make the benefits of ballet available to all. Finally, Julie covers how she’s learned to be kinder to herself, as we often are our own harshest critics, and why kindness is what matters most. </p><p>A passionate, wise, and spirited interview. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>You can find Julie at <a href="https://www.julie-granger.com/">https://www.julie-granger.com/</a></p><p>or follow her on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jujuonther0cks/">https://www.instagram.com/jujuonther0cks/</a></p><p>Her classes are available at <a href="https://thestudioparis.com/">https://thestudioparis.com/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/thestudioparis/">https://www.instagram.com/thestudioparis/</a></p><p>The Boston Ballet - <a href="https://www.bostonballet.org/home.aspx">https://www.bostonballet.org/home.aspx</a></p><p>The Joffrey Ballet in Chicago - <a href="https://joffrey.org/">https://joffrey.org/</a></p><p>Pure Yoga New York - <a href="http://pureyoga.com/">http://pureyoga.com/</a></p><p>Keep the Faith by Michael Jackson - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIEiP7kzGjI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIEiP7kzGjI</a></p><p>Follow the Dream by Elvis Prestley - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD0xsv2BHFw">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD0xsv2BHFw</a></p><p>La Dame aux Camélias - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Dame_aux_Cam%C3%A9lias">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Dame_aux_Cam%C3%A9lias</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews celebrity fitness trainer and former ballerina Julie Granger. Anne came across Julie via an online recommendation and was immediately struck not only by the instructor’s passion for teaching and the effectiveness of her classes (particularly Brooklyn Barre), but also by the combination of her warmth and dry sense of humour. </p><p>In this interview, they dig into Julie’s journey from the outskirts of Paris to the Boston Ballet, why she left her ballerina career behind, and how she decided to pursue new callings, including yoga, fitness and entrepreneurship. </p><p>Currently based between Paris and Lisbon, Julie explains how she is ‘three-quarters teacher’, and why she is not teaching by default but as a choice since it’s something she truly loves. Having opened her first studio the week before the first COVID lockdown in 2020, the ex-ballerina opens up on the difficulties she faced then and how grateful she is to have been able to continue to lead her community of students (her ‘Squad,’ as she calls them) virtually.  </p><p>Anne and Julie discuss the competitive culture of celebrity trainers in New York and the benefits of discipline and passion. Julie also shares how she wants to offer her students not just the benefits of a toned and energised body but for them to have a great time while engaging with fitness, as well as how she hopes to make the benefits of ballet available to all. Finally, Julie covers how she’s learned to be kinder to herself, as we often are our own harshest critics, and why kindness is what matters most. </p><p>A passionate, wise, and spirited interview. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>You can find Julie at <a href="https://www.julie-granger.com/">https://www.julie-granger.com/</a></p><p>or follow her on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jujuonther0cks/">https://www.instagram.com/jujuonther0cks/</a></p><p>Her classes are available at <a href="https://thestudioparis.com/">https://thestudioparis.com/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/thestudioparis/">https://www.instagram.com/thestudioparis/</a></p><p>The Boston Ballet - <a href="https://www.bostonballet.org/home.aspx">https://www.bostonballet.org/home.aspx</a></p><p>The Joffrey Ballet in Chicago - <a href="https://joffrey.org/">https://joffrey.org/</a></p><p>Pure Yoga New York - <a href="http://pureyoga.com/">http://pureyoga.com/</a></p><p>Keep the Faith by Michael Jackson - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIEiP7kzGjI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIEiP7kzGjI</a></p><p>Follow the Dream by Elvis Prestley - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD0xsv2BHFw">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD0xsv2BHFw</a></p><p>La Dame aux Camélias - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Dame_aux_Cam%C3%A9lias">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Dame_aux_Cam%C3%A9lias</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Anne Muhlethaler, host of Out of the Clouds, interviews Cameron Silver. Known as ‘the impresario of vintage fashion’, Silver - who pursued acting in his teens - is a talented retailer, storyteller, and an all-round entertaining guest. </p><p>In their interview, he tells Anne about how he landed working in retail while pursuing acting and singing roles, and how he started building a shop in his mother’s living room, after discovering a passion for thrifting while touring around the US. Later, he founded the now famous vintage couture boutique Decades Inc. in LA, where he started to dress celebrities and stylish clients for red carpet and other assorted events. </p><p>Cameron’s passion for the history of fashion is linked to the fact that he believes that ‘fashion is a barometer for how we live, have lived and will live.’ Himself a daring dresser, he tells Anne about style, self-expression and how much he enjoys mentoring emerging designers and consulting for brands. </p><p>The two end on discussing the difficult times Cameron went through when, in the middle of the pandemic, he found himself caring for his ailing father, Jack B Silver, who passed away later in 2020. Cameron shares with both great vulnerability and kindness and in the middle of that, manages to impart some wonderful wisdom. </p><p>A beautiful, touching and very funny interview. Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p><strong>Selected links from the episode</strong></p><p>You can find Cameron via his <a href="https://cameronsilver.com/">website https://cameronsilver.com/</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/CameronDecades?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor">on Twitter </a>and on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cameronsilver/?hl=en">@cameronsilver </a></p><p>You can find out more about his store is Decades Inc <a href="https://decadesinc.com/">https://decadesinc.com/</a></p><p>His book is <a href="https://decadesinc.com/products/decades-a-century-of-fashion">Decades, A century of Fashion</a></p><p>We talk about what is a Bimah <a href="https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/bimah/">https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/bimah/</a></p><p>Fred Segal <a href="https://www.fredsegal.com/">https://www.fredsegal.com/</a></p><p>Ron Herman <a href="https://www.ronherman.com/">https://www.ronherman.com/</a></p><p>Annie Hall, the movie <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Hall">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Hall</a></p><p>Elsa Klensch <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsa_Klensch">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsa_Klensch</a></p><p>Weimar cabaret <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_culture">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_culture</a></p><p>Kurt Weill <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Weill">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Weill</a></p><p>Friedrich Hollaender - <a href="">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Hollaender</a></p><p>Tiffany Haddish wearing her white dress, again <a href="https://people.com/style/tiffany-haddish-rewears-alexander-mcqueen-dress-2021-beautiful-issue/">https://people.com/style/tiffany-haddish-rewears-alexander-mcqueen-dress-2021-beautiful-issue/</a></p><p>Cameron interviewed for WWD - <a href="https://wwd.com/fashion-news/fashion-features/cameron-silver-fashion-talks-on-instagram-live-1203556749/">https://wwd.com/fashion-news/fashion-features/cameron-silver-fashion-talks-on-instagram-live-1203556749/</a></p><p>Cameron interview with the LA Times - <a href="https://www.latimes.com/fashion/alltherage/la-ig-decades-20121121-story.html">https://www.latimes.com/fashion/alltherage/la-ig-decades-20121121-story.html</a></p><p>Ennio Capasa of Costume National - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ennio_Capasa">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ennio_Capasa</a></p><p>Nardi Venetian jewelers - <a href="https://www.nardi-venezia.com/">https://www.nardi-venezia.com/</a></p><p>Sage & Madison - <a href="https://sageandmadison.com/">https://sageandmadison.com/</a></p><p>Diana Rilov - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dianarilov/?hl=en">https://www.instagram.com/dianarilov/?hl=en</a></p><p>The Mysteries of Pittsburg  book - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16697.The_Mysteries_of_Pittsburgh">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16697.The_Mysteries_of_Pittsburgh</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Anne Muhlethaler, host of Out of the Clouds, interviews Cameron Silver. Known as ‘the impresario of vintage fashion’, Silver - who pursued acting in his teens - is a talented retailer, storyteller, and an all-round entertaining guest. </p><p>In their interview, he tells Anne about how he landed working in retail while pursuing acting and singing roles, and how he started building a shop in his mother’s living room, after discovering a passion for thrifting while touring around the US. Later, he founded the now famous vintage couture boutique Decades Inc. in LA, where he started to dress celebrities and stylish clients for red carpet and other assorted events. </p><p>Cameron’s passion for the history of fashion is linked to the fact that he believes that ‘fashion is a barometer for how we live, have lived and will live.’ Himself a daring dresser, he tells Anne about style, self-expression and how much he enjoys mentoring emerging designers and consulting for brands. </p><p>The two end on discussing the difficult times Cameron went through when, in the middle of the pandemic, he found himself caring for his ailing father, Jack B Silver, who passed away later in 2020. Cameron shares with both great vulnerability and kindness and in the middle of that, manages to impart some wonderful wisdom. </p><p>A beautiful, touching and very funny interview. Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p><strong>Selected links from the episode</strong></p><p>You can find Cameron via his <a href="https://cameronsilver.com/">website https://cameronsilver.com/</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/CameronDecades?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor">on Twitter </a>and on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cameronsilver/?hl=en">@cameronsilver </a></p><p>You can find out more about his store is Decades Inc <a href="https://decadesinc.com/">https://decadesinc.com/</a></p><p>His book is <a href="https://decadesinc.com/products/decades-a-century-of-fashion">Decades, A century of Fashion</a></p><p>We talk about what is a Bimah <a href="https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/bimah/">https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/bimah/</a></p><p>Fred Segal <a href="https://www.fredsegal.com/">https://www.fredsegal.com/</a></p><p>Ron Herman <a href="https://www.ronherman.com/">https://www.ronherman.com/</a></p><p>Annie Hall, the movie <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Hall">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Hall</a></p><p>Elsa Klensch <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsa_Klensch">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsa_Klensch</a></p><p>Weimar cabaret <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_culture">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_culture</a></p><p>Kurt Weill <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Weill">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Weill</a></p><p>Friedrich Hollaender - <a href="">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Hollaender</a></p><p>Tiffany Haddish wearing her white dress, again <a href="https://people.com/style/tiffany-haddish-rewears-alexander-mcqueen-dress-2021-beautiful-issue/">https://people.com/style/tiffany-haddish-rewears-alexander-mcqueen-dress-2021-beautiful-issue/</a></p><p>Cameron interviewed for WWD - <a href="https://wwd.com/fashion-news/fashion-features/cameron-silver-fashion-talks-on-instagram-live-1203556749/">https://wwd.com/fashion-news/fashion-features/cameron-silver-fashion-talks-on-instagram-live-1203556749/</a></p><p>Cameron interview with the LA Times - <a href="https://www.latimes.com/fashion/alltherage/la-ig-decades-20121121-story.html">https://www.latimes.com/fashion/alltherage/la-ig-decades-20121121-story.html</a></p><p>Ennio Capasa of Costume National - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ennio_Capasa">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ennio_Capasa</a></p><p>Nardi Venetian jewelers - <a href="https://www.nardi-venezia.com/">https://www.nardi-venezia.com/</a></p><p>Sage & Madison - <a href="https://sageandmadison.com/">https://sageandmadison.com/</a></p><p>Diana Rilov - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dianarilov/?hl=en">https://www.instagram.com/dianarilov/?hl=en</a></p><p>The Mysteries of Pittsburg  book - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16697.The_Mysteries_of_Pittsburgh">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16697.The_Mysteries_of_Pittsburgh</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews her good friend, entrepreneur and event planner Annie Lee. Annie is known as “The Wedding Doctor” by Refinery29, “The Party Planner” by <i>New York Magazine</i>, a “celebrity entertaining expert” by <i>People Magazine</i> and <i>Shape Magazine</i>’s “Woman in Action – Entertaining Expert.” </p><p>An event and wedding specialist for nearly 15 years, Annie has been an industry spokesperson for safety in events since early in the pandemic. She continues to run her own events company, Daughter of Design, while also developing a major project, Plannie. Dubbed ‘Uber for events’, with Plannie she hopes to open the possibility for customers to have access to top event planners (and help on the day of) at an hourly rate (breaking from industry norm), making professional event planning accessible, in some way similar to how Uber made the luxury of a chauffeur available to many around the world.</p><p>As someone who has designed and produced many weddings, Annie also shares with Anne her mindful perspective on the importance of setting healthy boundaries with clients, knowing what not to worry about, and above all, letting go of the idea of a ‘perfect’ event. Wise, funny and insightful, Annie’s interview is a must-listen if you plan to throw a big event any time soon.</p><p>Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p>You can find Annie on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/daughterofdesign/">https://www.instagram.com/daughterofdesign/</a></p><p>Facebook <a href="https://www.facebook.com/daughterodesign">https://www.facebook.com/daughterodesign</a></p><p>Pinterest <a href="https://www.pinterest.ch/DaughterofDesign/">https://www.pinterest.ch/DaughterofDesign/</a></p><p>through her company website <a href="https://www.daughterofdesign.com/">https://www.daughterofdesign.com/</a></p><p>and her project Plannie <a href="https://www.plannie.com/">https://www.plannie.com/</a></p><p>on IG at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/askplannie/?hl=en">https://www.instagram.com/askplannie/?hl=en</a></p><p>Mylar balloons a la Fiona Leahy <a href="https://aynhoepark.co.uk/musings/fiona-leahy-at-aynhoe-park/">https://aynhoepark.co.uk/musings/fiona-leahy-at-aynhoe-park</a>/</p><p>Annie's <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CFC3qLeAoWC/">Gathering Guide</a></p><p>The Castello Aragonese in Ischia <a href="https://castelloaragoneseischia.com/">https://castelloaragoneseischia.com/</a></p><p>Korean 'Booking' (Clubbing) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booking_(clubbing)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booking_(clubbing)</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews her good friend, entrepreneur and event planner Annie Lee. Annie is known as “The Wedding Doctor” by Refinery29, “The Party Planner” by <i>New York Magazine</i>, a “celebrity entertaining expert” by <i>People Magazine</i> and <i>Shape Magazine</i>’s “Woman in Action – Entertaining Expert.” </p><p>An event and wedding specialist for nearly 15 years, Annie has been an industry spokesperson for safety in events since early in the pandemic. She continues to run her own events company, Daughter of Design, while also developing a major project, Plannie. Dubbed ‘Uber for events’, with Plannie she hopes to open the possibility for customers to have access to top event planners (and help on the day of) at an hourly rate (breaking from industry norm), making professional event planning accessible, in some way similar to how Uber made the luxury of a chauffeur available to many around the world.</p><p>As someone who has designed and produced many weddings, Annie also shares with Anne her mindful perspective on the importance of setting healthy boundaries with clients, knowing what not to worry about, and above all, letting go of the idea of a ‘perfect’ event. Wise, funny and insightful, Annie’s interview is a must-listen if you plan to throw a big event any time soon.</p><p>Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p>You can find Annie on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/daughterofdesign/">https://www.instagram.com/daughterofdesign/</a></p><p>Facebook <a href="https://www.facebook.com/daughterodesign">https://www.facebook.com/daughterodesign</a></p><p>Pinterest <a href="https://www.pinterest.ch/DaughterofDesign/">https://www.pinterest.ch/DaughterofDesign/</a></p><p>through her company website <a href="https://www.daughterofdesign.com/">https://www.daughterofdesign.com/</a></p><p>and her project Plannie <a href="https://www.plannie.com/">https://www.plannie.com/</a></p><p>on IG at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/askplannie/?hl=en">https://www.instagram.com/askplannie/?hl=en</a></p><p>Mylar balloons a la Fiona Leahy <a href="https://aynhoepark.co.uk/musings/fiona-leahy-at-aynhoe-park/">https://aynhoepark.co.uk/musings/fiona-leahy-at-aynhoe-park</a>/</p><p>Annie's <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CFC3qLeAoWC/">Gathering Guide</a></p><p>The Castello Aragonese in Ischia <a href="https://castelloaragoneseischia.com/">https://castelloaragoneseischia.com/</a></p><p>Korean 'Booking' (Clubbing) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booking_(clubbing)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booking_(clubbing)</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Neil Bridgeman is a marketing and branding expert turned naturopathic nutritionist. </p><p>In this podcast episode, Neil talks to host Anne Muhlethaler about his personal journey from Australia to the UK where he landed in the then up and coming startup that was luxury online retailer Net-a-Porter.</p><p>The two know each other from then, and exchange on the way Net-a-Porter, and Mr Porter, have been the pioneers in the world of e-commerce, in the projects, collaborations and experiences created for their clientele.  </p><p>Neil also shares his career conversion journey, along with his personal difficulties with anxiety and burnout, which led him first to a course on yoga for anxiety, meditation, and then naturopathic medicine.</p><p>In his new role, having opened his own private clinic, he tells Anne about the relationship between nutrition and depression, the importance of the therapeutic relationship, the crucial role of listening and the ways in which he hopes to educate his clients to support greater health and vitality for them. </p><p>A very personal and enriching conversation. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>Selected Links from Episode : </p><p>You can find Neil at : <a href="https://neilbridgeman.com/">https://neilbridgeman.com/</a></p><p>and on Instagram at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neilbridgeman/">https://www.instagram.com/neilbridgeman/</a></p><p>Net-a-porter <a href="https://www.net-a-porter.com/en-fr/">https://www.net-a-porter.com/en-fr/</a></p><p>Roland Mouret <a href="https://eu.rolandmouret.com/">https://eu.rolandmouret.com/</a></p><p>Natalie Massenet <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalie_Massenet">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalie_Massenet</a></p><p>Kelly Slater  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Slater">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Slater</a></p><p>Outerknown - <a href="https://www.outerknown.com/">https://www.outerknown.com/</a></p><p>John Moore, Outerknown - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-moore-60a86a3/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-moore-60a86a3/</a></p><p>Jeremy Langmead - <a href="https://www.businessoffashion.com/community/people/jeremy-langmead">https://www.businessoffashion.com/community/people/jeremy-langmead</a></p><p>Toby Bateman - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/toby-bateman-59956260/?originalSubdomain=uk">https://www.linkedin.com/in/toby-bateman-59956260/?originalSubdomain=uk</a></p><p>Mr Porter - <a href="https://www.mrporter.com/en-fr/">https://www.mrporter.com/en-fr/</a></p><p>Yoga for anxiety with Heather Mason - <a href="https://themindedinstitute.com/team/heather-mason/">https://themindedinstitute.com/team/heather-mason/</a></p><p>Eve Kalinik - <a href="https://evekalinik.com/">https://evekalinik.com/</a></p><p>The vagus nerve - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagus_nerve">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagus_nerve</a></p><p>Kia Miller kundalini yoga teacher - <a href="https://offerings.kiamiller.com/">https://offerings.kiamiller.com/</a></p><p>Kundalini yoga - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini_yoga">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini_yoga</a></p><p>Yin yoga - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yin_Yoga">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yin_Yoga</a></p><p>Epson Salts - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_sulfate">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_sulfate</a></p><p>Annie Carpenter - <a href="https://www.smartflowyoga.com/">https://www.smartflowyoga.com/</a></p><p>Anne's post about the bee and shifting perspective -</p><p>Keris Marsden, Neil's favorite lecturer at the London College of Naturopathy - Fitter Food - <a href="https://fitterfood.com/about/">https://fitterfood.com/about/</a></p><p>Listen to Keris' interview with Anne -<a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/podcast/keris-marsden/">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/podcast/keris-marsden/</a></p><p>Eckhart Tolle - <a href="https://eckharttolle.com/books/">https://eckharttolle.com/books/</a></p><p>Dr. Mark Hyman - <a href="https://drhyman.com/">https://drhyman.com/</a></p><p>Dr Hyman's podcast - <a href="https://drhyman.com/blog/category/podcasts/">https://drhyman.com/blog/category/podcasts/</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Neil Bridgeman is a marketing and branding expert turned naturopathic nutritionist. </p><p>In this podcast episode, Neil talks to host Anne Muhlethaler about his personal journey from Australia to the UK where he landed in the then up and coming startup that was luxury online retailer Net-a-Porter.</p><p>The two know each other from then, and exchange on the way Net-a-Porter, and Mr Porter, have been the pioneers in the world of e-commerce, in the projects, collaborations and experiences created for their clientele.  </p><p>Neil also shares his career conversion journey, along with his personal difficulties with anxiety and burnout, which led him first to a course on yoga for anxiety, meditation, and then naturopathic medicine.</p><p>In his new role, having opened his own private clinic, he tells Anne about the relationship between nutrition and depression, the importance of the therapeutic relationship, the crucial role of listening and the ways in which he hopes to educate his clients to support greater health and vitality for them. </p><p>A very personal and enriching conversation. Happy listening!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>Selected Links from Episode : </p><p>You can find Neil at : <a href="https://neilbridgeman.com/">https://neilbridgeman.com/</a></p><p>and on Instagram at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neilbridgeman/">https://www.instagram.com/neilbridgeman/</a></p><p>Net-a-porter <a href="https://www.net-a-porter.com/en-fr/">https://www.net-a-porter.com/en-fr/</a></p><p>Roland Mouret <a href="https://eu.rolandmouret.com/">https://eu.rolandmouret.com/</a></p><p>Natalie Massenet <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalie_Massenet">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalie_Massenet</a></p><p>Kelly Slater  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Slater">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Slater</a></p><p>Outerknown - <a href="https://www.outerknown.com/">https://www.outerknown.com/</a></p><p>John Moore, Outerknown - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-moore-60a86a3/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-moore-60a86a3/</a></p><p>Jeremy Langmead - <a href="https://www.businessoffashion.com/community/people/jeremy-langmead">https://www.businessoffashion.com/community/people/jeremy-langmead</a></p><p>Toby Bateman - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/toby-bateman-59956260/?originalSubdomain=uk">https://www.linkedin.com/in/toby-bateman-59956260/?originalSubdomain=uk</a></p><p>Mr Porter - <a href="https://www.mrporter.com/en-fr/">https://www.mrporter.com/en-fr/</a></p><p>Yoga for anxiety with Heather Mason - <a href="https://themindedinstitute.com/team/heather-mason/">https://themindedinstitute.com/team/heather-mason/</a></p><p>Eve Kalinik - <a href="https://evekalinik.com/">https://evekalinik.com/</a></p><p>The vagus nerve - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagus_nerve">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagus_nerve</a></p><p>Kia Miller kundalini yoga teacher - <a href="https://offerings.kiamiller.com/">https://offerings.kiamiller.com/</a></p><p>Kundalini yoga - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini_yoga">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini_yoga</a></p><p>Yin yoga - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yin_Yoga">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yin_Yoga</a></p><p>Epson Salts - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_sulfate">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_sulfate</a></p><p>Annie Carpenter - <a href="https://www.smartflowyoga.com/">https://www.smartflowyoga.com/</a></p><p>Anne's post about the bee and shifting perspective -</p><p>Keris Marsden, Neil's favorite lecturer at the London College of Naturopathy - Fitter Food - <a href="https://fitterfood.com/about/">https://fitterfood.com/about/</a></p><p>Listen to Keris' interview with Anne -<a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/podcast/keris-marsden/">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/podcast/keris-marsden/</a></p><p>Eckhart Tolle - <a href="https://eckharttolle.com/books/">https://eckharttolle.com/books/</a></p><p>Dr. Mark Hyman - <a href="https://drhyman.com/">https://drhyman.com/</a></p><p>Dr Hyman's podcast - <a href="https://drhyman.com/blog/category/podcasts/">https://drhyman.com/blog/category/podcasts/</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Paulette Perhach (<a href="https://twitter.com/pauletteperhach">@pauletteperhach</a>) is an freelance writer, journalist and writing coach, who shares her knowledge and expertise with those pursuing writing, both as a career or for personal creative goals. </p><p>In this lively podcast interview, Paulette speaks to host Anne Muhlethaler about her early beginnings with writing, how one of her stories, ‘The Fuck-off Fund’, went viral, and how this didn't just propel her to the top of literature mountain but zip-lined her (in her own words) to finance media mountain. Since then, Paulette has published her first book, Welcome to the Writer’s World, and tells Anne all about the writing and editing process, as well as the courses and services she’s currently developing. </p><p>Paulette, along with the novelist April Davila, also co-created a virtual space for writers during the pandemic, called A Very Important Meeting, offering participants mindfulness meditation and a 45 min focused writing session, with the option to get support on their writing projects from the hosts, who are all accomplished writers themselves. </p><p>Paulette talks with a lot of humour about her personal challenges with finances, writing, day-jobs, anxiety and how mindfulness and meditation have supported her in finding more balance when managing her anxious mind. </p><p>A very spirited and inspiring conversation. </p><p>***</p><p><strong>Selected inks from episode</strong></p><p>You can find Paulette at <a href="http://www.pauletteperhach.com/">http://www.pauletteperhach.com/</a></p><p>or follow her on Twitter https://twitter.com/pauletteperhach</p><p>on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/paulettejperhach/">https://www.instagram.com/paulettejperhach/</a></p><p>or on LinkedIn <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulette-perhach-23b12832/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulette-perhach-23b12832/</a></p><p>Paulette's viral story, the Fuck Off Fund <a href="https://www.thebillfold.com/2016/01/a-story-of-a-fuck-off-fund/#.hz4t8emwj">https://www.thebillfold.com/2016/01/a-story-of-a-fuck-off-fund/#.hz4t8emwj</a></p><p>A Very Important Meeting - writing coaches bios and details - <a href="https://www.averyimportantmeeting.com/instructors">https://www.averyimportantmeeting.com/instructors</a></p><p>Michael Moss books on the food industry - <a href="https://www.mossbooks.us/">https://www.mossbooks.us/</a></p><p>Writer Chuck Klosterman - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Klosterman">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Klosterman</a></p><p>Paulette's dream obituary is available to read here: <a href="http://www.pauletteperhach.com/about">http://www.pauletteperhach.com/about</a></p><p>Hugo House - a house for writers, in Seattle - <a href="https://hugohouse.org/">https://hugohouse.org/</a></p><p>McSweeney's - <a href="https://www.mcsweeneys.net/">https://www.mcsweeneys.net/</a></p><p>Granta - <a href="https://granta.com/">https://granta.com/</a></p><p>Welcome to the Writer's Life - Paulette's blog - <a href="https://welcometothewriterslife.com/">https://welcometothewriterslife.com/</a></p><p>And Welcome to the Writer's Life - the book - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/39711925-welcome-to-the-writer-s-life">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/39711925-welcome-to-the-writer-s-life</a></p><p>Penland School of Crafts - <a href="https://penland.org/">https://penland.org/</a></p><p>Bernadette Jiwa - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/6556886.Bernadette_Jiwa">https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/6556886.Bernadette_Jiwa</a></p><p>Tara Brach - the sacred pause, guided meditation - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-yF9EMkE88">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-yF9EMkE88</a></p><p>Kerfuffle - <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kerfuffle">https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kerfuffle</a></p><p>Holocene, a song by Bon Iver - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWcyIpul8OE">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWcyIpul8OE </a></p><p>On Bullshit , a book by American philosopher Harry J Frankfurt <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Bullshit">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Bullshit</a></p><p>Matrix, a book by Lauren Groff - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/57185348-matrix">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/57185348-matrix</a></p><p>The Body, a guide for occupants, by Bill Bryson - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43582376-the-body">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43582376-the-body</a></p><p>George Saunders - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Saunders">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Saunders</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Paulette Perhach (<a href="https://twitter.com/pauletteperhach">@pauletteperhach</a>) is an freelance writer, journalist and writing coach, who shares her knowledge and expertise with those pursuing writing, both as a career or for personal creative goals. </p><p>In this lively podcast interview, Paulette speaks to host Anne Muhlethaler about her early beginnings with writing, how one of her stories, ‘The Fuck-off Fund’, went viral, and how this didn't just propel her to the top of literature mountain but zip-lined her (in her own words) to finance media mountain. Since then, Paulette has published her first book, Welcome to the Writer’s World, and tells Anne all about the writing and editing process, as well as the courses and services she’s currently developing. </p><p>Paulette, along with the novelist April Davila, also co-created a virtual space for writers during the pandemic, called A Very Important Meeting, offering participants mindfulness meditation and a 45 min focused writing session, with the option to get support on their writing projects from the hosts, who are all accomplished writers themselves. </p><p>Paulette talks with a lot of humour about her personal challenges with finances, writing, day-jobs, anxiety and how mindfulness and meditation have supported her in finding more balance when managing her anxious mind. </p><p>A very spirited and inspiring conversation. </p><p>***</p><p><strong>Selected inks from episode</strong></p><p>You can find Paulette at <a href="http://www.pauletteperhach.com/">http://www.pauletteperhach.com/</a></p><p>or follow her on Twitter https://twitter.com/pauletteperhach</p><p>on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/paulettejperhach/">https://www.instagram.com/paulettejperhach/</a></p><p>or on LinkedIn <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulette-perhach-23b12832/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulette-perhach-23b12832/</a></p><p>Paulette's viral story, the Fuck Off Fund <a href="https://www.thebillfold.com/2016/01/a-story-of-a-fuck-off-fund/#.hz4t8emwj">https://www.thebillfold.com/2016/01/a-story-of-a-fuck-off-fund/#.hz4t8emwj</a></p><p>A Very Important Meeting - writing coaches bios and details - <a href="https://www.averyimportantmeeting.com/instructors">https://www.averyimportantmeeting.com/instructors</a></p><p>Michael Moss books on the food industry - <a href="https://www.mossbooks.us/">https://www.mossbooks.us/</a></p><p>Writer Chuck Klosterman - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Klosterman">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Klosterman</a></p><p>Paulette's dream obituary is available to read here: <a href="http://www.pauletteperhach.com/about">http://www.pauletteperhach.com/about</a></p><p>Hugo House - a house for writers, in Seattle - <a href="https://hugohouse.org/">https://hugohouse.org/</a></p><p>McSweeney's - <a href="https://www.mcsweeneys.net/">https://www.mcsweeneys.net/</a></p><p>Granta - <a href="https://granta.com/">https://granta.com/</a></p><p>Welcome to the Writer's Life - Paulette's blog - <a href="https://welcometothewriterslife.com/">https://welcometothewriterslife.com/</a></p><p>And Welcome to the Writer's Life - the book - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/39711925-welcome-to-the-writer-s-life">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/39711925-welcome-to-the-writer-s-life</a></p><p>Penland School of Crafts - <a href="https://penland.org/">https://penland.org/</a></p><p>Bernadette Jiwa - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/6556886.Bernadette_Jiwa">https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/6556886.Bernadette_Jiwa</a></p><p>Tara Brach - the sacred pause, guided meditation - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-yF9EMkE88">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-yF9EMkE88</a></p><p>Kerfuffle - <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kerfuffle">https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kerfuffle</a></p><p>Holocene, a song by Bon Iver - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWcyIpul8OE">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWcyIpul8OE </a></p><p>On Bullshit , a book by American philosopher Harry J Frankfurt <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Bullshit">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Bullshit</a></p><p>Matrix, a book by Lauren Groff - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/57185348-matrix">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/57185348-matrix</a></p><p>The Body, a guide for occupants, by Bill Bryson - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43582376-the-body">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43582376-the-body</a></p><p>George Saunders - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Saunders">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Saunders</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Rebekah Brown is the founder and chief guinea pig of MPowder, the world’s first plant-based supplement powder range crafted to target the three distinct biochemical stages of the menopause. </p><p>Rebekah's personal struggle was the starting point for this entrepreneurial adventure, as she started to suffer in her early forties from varied symptoms that neither she or her doctor could make sense of. As a researcher and planner in the creative industries, she threw herself into a quest which led her to experiment with functional foods, and then into creating her own nutritional supplement, a powder she first ground herself in her own family kitchen - a time she says other family members would rather forget. </p><p>She likes to say that MPowder is on a mission to reframe midlife as a superpower. Launched in September 2020, the brand went to market in the UK with their first supplement, called Peri-Boost, a product born from curiosity, co-creation and community.</p><p>In this personal and in-depth interview, Rebekah talks through her experience with perimenopause, how she launched in the middle of the pandemic, her funding experience - both as a woman founder and in the femtech space - and how she inadvertently became a spokesperson for menopause. She talks to Anne about how her team is co-creating the products not only with specialist doctors and nutritionists but with the support or feedback of their dedicated community. </p><p>The two discuss the biochemical aspects of this life transition, the emotional journey women go through, before touching on how yoga, meditation and movement have helped Rebekah on her mindful journey through this life cycle.</p><p>A wonderful, funny and touching interview.  Enjoy! </p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from Episode: </p><p>You can find MPowder at <a href="https://mpowder.store/">https://mpowder.store/</a></p><p>Follow them on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/mpowderstore/">https://www.instagram.com/mpowderstore/</a></p><p>and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/mpowderstore">Facebook</a> </p><p>Perimenopause - <a href="https://www.health.harvard.edu/womens-health/perimenopause-rocky-road-to-menopause">https://www.health.harvard.edu/womens-health/perimenopause-rocky-road-to-menopause</a></p><p>HRT - Hormone Replacement Therapy - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormone_replacement_therapy">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormone_replacement_therapy</a></p><p>Wetsuit - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY4J3sVMmN0">a song by the Vaccines </a></p><p>Bloody Brilliant People, the book - <a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/bloody-brilliant-people-the-couples-and-partnerships-that-history-forgot-cathy-newman?variant=39256119115810">https://www.harpercollins.com/products/bloody-brilliant-people-the-couples-and-partnerships-that-history-forgot-cathy-newman?variant=39256119115810</a></p><p>Carol Ann Duffy - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Ann_Duffy">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Ann_Duffy</a></p><p>And her book the World's Wife - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World%27s_Wife">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World%27s_Wife</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Rebekah Brown is the founder and chief guinea pig of MPowder, the world’s first plant-based supplement powder range crafted to target the three distinct biochemical stages of the menopause. </p><p>Rebekah's personal struggle was the starting point for this entrepreneurial adventure, as she started to suffer in her early forties from varied symptoms that neither she or her doctor could make sense of. As a researcher and planner in the creative industries, she threw herself into a quest which led her to experiment with functional foods, and then into creating her own nutritional supplement, a powder she first ground herself in her own family kitchen - a time she says other family members would rather forget. </p><p>She likes to say that MPowder is on a mission to reframe midlife as a superpower. Launched in September 2020, the brand went to market in the UK with their first supplement, called Peri-Boost, a product born from curiosity, co-creation and community.</p><p>In this personal and in-depth interview, Rebekah talks through her experience with perimenopause, how she launched in the middle of the pandemic, her funding experience - both as a woman founder and in the femtech space - and how she inadvertently became a spokesperson for menopause. She talks to Anne about how her team is co-creating the products not only with specialist doctors and nutritionists but with the support or feedback of their dedicated community. </p><p>The two discuss the biochemical aspects of this life transition, the emotional journey women go through, before touching on how yoga, meditation and movement have helped Rebekah on her mindful journey through this life cycle.</p><p>A wonderful, funny and touching interview.  Enjoy! </p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from Episode: </p><p>You can find MPowder at <a href="https://mpowder.store/">https://mpowder.store/</a></p><p>Follow them on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/mpowderstore/">https://www.instagram.com/mpowderstore/</a></p><p>and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/mpowderstore">Facebook</a> </p><p>Perimenopause - <a href="https://www.health.harvard.edu/womens-health/perimenopause-rocky-road-to-menopause">https://www.health.harvard.edu/womens-health/perimenopause-rocky-road-to-menopause</a></p><p>HRT - Hormone Replacement Therapy - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormone_replacement_therapy">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormone_replacement_therapy</a></p><p>Wetsuit - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY4J3sVMmN0">a song by the Vaccines </a></p><p>Bloody Brilliant People, the book - <a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/bloody-brilliant-people-the-couples-and-partnerships-that-history-forgot-cathy-newman?variant=39256119115810">https://www.harpercollins.com/products/bloody-brilliant-people-the-couples-and-partnerships-that-history-forgot-cathy-newman?variant=39256119115810</a></p><p>Carol Ann Duffy - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Ann_Duffy">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Ann_Duffy</a></p><p>And her book the World's Wife - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World%27s_Wife">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World%27s_Wife</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yancey Strickler (<a href="https://twitter.com/ystrickler?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor">@ystrickler</a>) is an entrepreneur and writer, co-founder of Kickstarter, The Creative Independent, and the author of<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/591594/this-could-be-our-future-by-yancey-strickler/9780525560845"> This Could Be our Future, A Manifesto for a More Generous World</a>. He’s a Distinguished Fellow at the <a href="https://www.drucker.institute/">Drucker Institute</a>, one of <i>Fast Company’s </i>Most Creative People, and an angel investor in startups, including<a href="https://hopin.to/"> Hopin</a>, <a href="https://www.getmati.com/">Mati</a>, <a href="https://organise.network">Organise</a>,<a href="https://www.userealtime.com/"> Realtime</a>,<a href="https://gosupercritical.com"> Supercritical</a>, <a href="https://www.system.com/">System</a>, and<a href="https://projectwren.com/"> Wren</a>.</p><p>Host Anne Mühlethaler met Yancey over Zoom, with 50 or so others, curious after hearing him speak of his Bentoism project on the James Altucher show in Spring 2020. Having gotten to know each other over the past few months via the Bento Society, Anne starts the conversation by asking Yancey about his upbringing in rural Virginia, his passion for reading, writing and the early days of his career as a music critic in New York City. Yancey talks Anne through the inception of Kickstarter and shares what he learnt about manifesting ideas during the years he spent supporting thousands of creative projects launched on the crowdfunding platform. </p><p>He explains how he came up with the Bento (Beyond Near Term Orientation), a tool he designed while he was in the process of writing his book. After pondering on the meaning of value and the Self, Yancey was in need of a metaphor as he explored how to balance decision making between near and long-term, and going beyond the ‘now me’ of the present self’s needs. The two also chat about data, reputation and identity in the digital age, tribes,post-individualism and self-interest. They finish the discussion on whether the Bento can be helpful in building a better future for the planet, or as per Yancey’s original idea, how it could lead us on an intentional path to a better 2050. </p><p>A fascinating and fun conversation, happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p><strong>Selected Links from the episode </strong></p><p>You can find Yancey <a href="https://twitter.com/ystrickler?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor">@Ystrickler</a> on Twitter or via his website <a href="https://www.ystrickler.com/">Ystrickler.com</a></p><p>The Creative Independent - <a href="https://thecreativeindependent.com/">https://thecreativeindependent.com/</a></p><p>Bentoism & The Bento Society - <a href="https://bentoism.org/join">https://bentoism.org/join</a></p><p>Yancey interviewed on the James Altucher's Podcast - <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/the-james-altucher-show/589-yancey-strickler">https://omny.fm/shows/the-james-altucher-show/589-yancey-strickler</a></p><p>The Trouser Press Record Guide - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/899268.The_Trouser_Press_Record_Guide">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/899268.The_Trouser_Press_Record_Guide</a></p><p>Kickstarter's Stats page - <a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/help/stats">https://www.kickstarter.com/help/stats</a></p><p>Adam Smith - Wealth of Nations - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wealth_of_Nations">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wealth_of_Nations</a></p><p>Jerry Colonna Reboot - <a href="https://www.reboot.io/podcast/">https://www.reboot.io/podcast/</a></p><p>Don Cherry - Relativity Suite 2 - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativity_Suite">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativity_Suite</a></p><p>The Weirdest People in the World  - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_WEIRDest_People_in_the_World">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_WEIRDest_People_in_the_World</a></p><p>Priya Parker - The Art of Gathering  - <a href="https://www.priyaparker.com/thebook">https://www.priyaparker.com/thebook</a></p><p>Peter Hook  - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hook">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hook</a></p><p>Joy Division - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joy_Division">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joy_Division</a></p><p>Our Band Could Be Your Life -  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Band_Could_Be_Your_Life">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Band_Could_Be_Your_Life</a></p><p>Not for Bread Alone -  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_by_Bread_Alone">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_by_Bread_Alone</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Yancey Strickler (<a href="https://twitter.com/ystrickler?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor">@ystrickler</a>) is an entrepreneur and writer, co-founder of Kickstarter, The Creative Independent, and the author of<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/591594/this-could-be-our-future-by-yancey-strickler/9780525560845"> This Could Be our Future, A Manifesto for a More Generous World</a>. He’s a Distinguished Fellow at the <a href="https://www.drucker.institute/">Drucker Institute</a>, one of <i>Fast Company’s </i>Most Creative People, and an angel investor in startups, including<a href="https://hopin.to/"> Hopin</a>, <a href="https://www.getmati.com/">Mati</a>, <a href="https://organise.network">Organise</a>,<a href="https://www.userealtime.com/"> Realtime</a>,<a href="https://gosupercritical.com"> Supercritical</a>, <a href="https://www.system.com/">System</a>, and<a href="https://projectwren.com/"> Wren</a>.</p><p>Host Anne Mühlethaler met Yancey over Zoom, with 50 or so others, curious after hearing him speak of his Bentoism project on the James Altucher show in Spring 2020. Having gotten to know each other over the past few months via the Bento Society, Anne starts the conversation by asking Yancey about his upbringing in rural Virginia, his passion for reading, writing and the early days of his career as a music critic in New York City. Yancey talks Anne through the inception of Kickstarter and shares what he learnt about manifesting ideas during the years he spent supporting thousands of creative projects launched on the crowdfunding platform. </p><p>He explains how he came up with the Bento (Beyond Near Term Orientation), a tool he designed while he was in the process of writing his book. After pondering on the meaning of value and the Self, Yancey was in need of a metaphor as he explored how to balance decision making between near and long-term, and going beyond the ‘now me’ of the present self’s needs. The two also chat about data, reputation and identity in the digital age, tribes,post-individualism and self-interest. They finish the discussion on whether the Bento can be helpful in building a better future for the planet, or as per Yancey’s original idea, how it could lead us on an intentional path to a better 2050. </p><p>A fascinating and fun conversation, happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p><strong>Selected Links from the episode </strong></p><p>You can find Yancey <a href="https://twitter.com/ystrickler?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor">@Ystrickler</a> on Twitter or via his website <a href="https://www.ystrickler.com/">Ystrickler.com</a></p><p>The Creative Independent - <a href="https://thecreativeindependent.com/">https://thecreativeindependent.com/</a></p><p>Bentoism & The Bento Society - <a href="https://bentoism.org/join">https://bentoism.org/join</a></p><p>Yancey interviewed on the James Altucher's Podcast - <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/the-james-altucher-show/589-yancey-strickler">https://omny.fm/shows/the-james-altucher-show/589-yancey-strickler</a></p><p>The Trouser Press Record Guide - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/899268.The_Trouser_Press_Record_Guide">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/899268.The_Trouser_Press_Record_Guide</a></p><p>Kickstarter's Stats page - <a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/help/stats">https://www.kickstarter.com/help/stats</a></p><p>Adam Smith - Wealth of Nations - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wealth_of_Nations">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wealth_of_Nations</a></p><p>Jerry Colonna Reboot - <a href="https://www.reboot.io/podcast/">https://www.reboot.io/podcast/</a></p><p>Don Cherry - Relativity Suite 2 - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativity_Suite">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativity_Suite</a></p><p>The Weirdest People in the World  - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_WEIRDest_People_in_the_World">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_WEIRDest_People_in_the_World</a></p><p>Priya Parker - The Art of Gathering  - <a href="https://www.priyaparker.com/thebook">https://www.priyaparker.com/thebook</a></p><p>Peter Hook  - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hook">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hook</a></p><p>Joy Division - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joy_Division">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joy_Division</a></p><p>Our Band Could Be Your Life -  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Band_Could_Be_Your_Life">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Band_Could_Be_Your_Life</a></p><p>Not for Bread Alone -  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_by_Bread_Alone">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_by_Bread_Alone</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Solo Episode - On swimming, resources and finding flow</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this solo episode, host Anne Muhlethaler (@annvi) explains how she reconnected with her childhood love of swimming while away on a mountain retreat for a few days. Surprisingly, through a few changes she'd recently made, this practice turned into a peak experience. </p><p>This got her thinking, mid-stroke (breaststroke that is), and turned into a reflection on the feeling of ‘meh’ (aka languishing), and how to find joy (and flow) in the small things. With a clear nod (and thanks) to Prof. Adam Grant, whose recent TED Talk in Monterey provided a wonderful backdrop to examine how we can bring play, and potentially flow, into our lives. With or without a swim.</p><p>*** </p><p>Selected links from the episode: </p><p>The Art of Swimming - <a href="https://www.artofswimming.com/">https://www.artofswimming.com/</a></p><p>Adam Grant's TED Monterey Talk on how to stop languishing and start finding flow - <a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/adam_grant_how_to_stop_languishing_and_start_finding_flow?language=en">https://www.ted.com/talks/adam_grant_how_to_stop_languishing_and_start_finding_flow?language=en</a></p><p>Adam Grant's New York Times article on languishing - <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/19/well/mind/covid-mental-health-languishing.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/19/well/mind/covid-mental-health-languishing.html</a></p><p>*** </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this solo episode, host Anne Muhlethaler (@annvi) explains how she reconnected with her childhood love of swimming while away on a mountain retreat for a few days. Surprisingly, through a few changes she'd recently made, this practice turned into a peak experience. </p><p>This got her thinking, mid-stroke (breaststroke that is), and turned into a reflection on the feeling of ‘meh’ (aka languishing), and how to find joy (and flow) in the small things. With a clear nod (and thanks) to Prof. Adam Grant, whose recent TED Talk in Monterey provided a wonderful backdrop to examine how we can bring play, and potentially flow, into our lives. With or without a swim.</p><p>*** </p><p>Selected links from the episode: </p><p>The Art of Swimming - <a href="https://www.artofswimming.com/">https://www.artofswimming.com/</a></p><p>Adam Grant's TED Monterey Talk on how to stop languishing and start finding flow - <a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/adam_grant_how_to_stop_languishing_and_start_finding_flow?language=en">https://www.ted.com/talks/adam_grant_how_to_stop_languishing_and_start_finding_flow?language=en</a></p><p>Adam Grant's New York Times article on languishing - <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/19/well/mind/covid-mental-health-languishing.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/19/well/mind/covid-mental-health-languishing.html</a></p><p>*** </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Dr Tim Lomas on finding happiness through untranslatable words, and men, meditation, and mental health</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<h2>Dr Tim Lomas (<a href="https://twitter.com/drtimlomas">@drtimlomas</a>) is one of Europe's leading experts on positive psychology and the programme leader at the University of East London's MSc in Applied Positive Psychology (one of Europe’s most highly respected post-graduate courses). He has written for the Guardian, the Times, Psychology Today and has published numerous academic papers in high-profile journals, including Psychology, Public Policy and Law, Mindfulness, Psychology and Health and the Journal of Happiness Studies. His first book, The Positive Power of Negative Emotions, was published in 2016.</h2><p>In this episode Dr. Tim Lomas discusses how his formative experiences travelling around China and Tibet led him into his specialism in meditation and Buddhism. He also reveals his other passion - performing as part of a Ska band, which eventually had to give way to his PHd on men, meditation and mental health. </p><p>Tim went on to undertake research into untranslatable words that he describes as “portals into another landscape”. Words that led him to create his Happiness Dictionary, a compilation of words from all over the world that have no direct translation in other languages. He discovers that concepts within psychology are western-centric, and therefore incomplete due to English being the dominant language, where it’s not always to give exact equivalents to ideas from other languages. This leads to the idea that cultures that don’t have words or concepts for certain feelings or emotions mean their knowledge of them can be incomplete. Therefore, there is huge potential to develop the world of psychology outside of the English language.</p><p>Also covered by Anne and Tim is the idea that the more language we have at our disposal to convey experiences or emotions, the more conducive it is to improved wellbeing and behaviour. Tim suggests that we need to strike a balance in many areas of our lives; from work-life balance to emotions and exercise. From this, harmony and integrity can be reached in our lives if a balance can be achieved within all of these areas as a whole.</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p>Selected Links from Episode: </p><p>Watch Dr Tim Lomas at TEDxZurich: <a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/tim_lomas_expanding_our_experiential_horizons_through_untranslatable_words">https://www.ted.com/talks/tim_lomas_expanding_our_experiential_horizons_through_untranslatable_words</a></p><p>You can also find Dr. Tim Lomas at: </p><p>Dr. Tim Lomas’ Website - <a href="https://www.drtimlomas.com/">https://www.drtimlomas.com/</a></p><p>Dr. Tim Lomas on Twitter - <a href="https://twitter.com/drtimlomas?lang=en">https://twitter.com/drtimlomas?lang=en</a></p><p>Dr. Tim Lomas on LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/drtimlomas/?originalSubdomain=uk">https://www.linkedin.com/in/drtimlomas/?originalSubdomain=uk</a></p><p>Read Dr. Tim Lomas’ Books - <a href="https://www.drtimlomas.com/books">https://www.drtimlomas.com/books</a></p><p>Read Dr. Tim Lomas’ Papers - <a href="https://www.drtimlomas.com/papers">https://www.drtimlomas.com/papers</a></p><p>Find Tim Lomas’ Happiness Dictionary on Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/happywordsproject/?hl=en">https://www.instagram.com/happywordsproject/?hl=en</a></p><p>Discover Tim’s Positive Lexicography, an interactive hub - <a href="https://hifisamurai.github.io/lexicography/">https://hifisamurai.github.io/lexicography/</a></p><p>Discover the Pema Chödrön  - <a href="https://pemachodronfoundation.org/">https://pemachodronfoundation.org/</a></p><p>Read Lisa Feldman Barrett’s Book – How Emotions Are Made - <a href="https://lisafeldmanbarrett.com/books/how-emotions-are-made/">https://lisafeldmanbarrett.com/books/how-emotions-are-made/</a></p><p>Read Emotional Intelligence by The Dalai Lama and Paul Ekman - <a href="https://tinyurl.com/r59y75pt">https://tinyurl.com/r59y75pt</a></p><p>The global Wellbeing Initiative - <a href="https://www.globalwellbeinginitiative.org/">https://www.globalwellbeinginitiative.org/</a></p><p>READ John Koenig’s - The Dictionary of Obscure Sorrows - <a href="https://tinyurl.com/28nxa8cs">https://tinyurl.com/28nxa8cs</a></p><p>Yancey Strickler & The Bento Society - <a href="https://www.ystrickler.com/">https://www.ystrickler.com/</a></p><p>Arvo Pärt- Spiegel im Spiegel - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ6Mzvh3XCc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ6Mzvh3XCc</a></p><p>The Kermode and Mayo Film Review Podcast - <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/kermode-and-mayos-film-review/id73802698">https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/kermode-and-mayos-film-review/id73802698</a></p><p>Sam Harris’ Waking Up App - <a href="https://wakingup.com/">https://wakingup.com/</a></p><p> </p><p>*** </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<h2>Dr Tim Lomas (<a href="https://twitter.com/drtimlomas">@drtimlomas</a>) is one of Europe's leading experts on positive psychology and the programme leader at the University of East London's MSc in Applied Positive Psychology (one of Europe’s most highly respected post-graduate courses). He has written for the Guardian, the Times, Psychology Today and has published numerous academic papers in high-profile journals, including Psychology, Public Policy and Law, Mindfulness, Psychology and Health and the Journal of Happiness Studies. His first book, The Positive Power of Negative Emotions, was published in 2016.</h2><p>In this episode Dr. Tim Lomas discusses how his formative experiences travelling around China and Tibet led him into his specialism in meditation and Buddhism. He also reveals his other passion - performing as part of a Ska band, which eventually had to give way to his PHd on men, meditation and mental health. </p><p>Tim went on to undertake research into untranslatable words that he describes as “portals into another landscape”. Words that led him to create his Happiness Dictionary, a compilation of words from all over the world that have no direct translation in other languages. He discovers that concepts within psychology are western-centric, and therefore incomplete due to English being the dominant language, where it’s not always to give exact equivalents to ideas from other languages. This leads to the idea that cultures that don’t have words or concepts for certain feelings or emotions mean their knowledge of them can be incomplete. Therefore, there is huge potential to develop the world of psychology outside of the English language.</p><p>Also covered by Anne and Tim is the idea that the more language we have at our disposal to convey experiences or emotions, the more conducive it is to improved wellbeing and behaviour. Tim suggests that we need to strike a balance in many areas of our lives; from work-life balance to emotions and exercise. From this, harmony and integrity can be reached in our lives if a balance can be achieved within all of these areas as a whole.</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p>Selected Links from Episode: </p><p>Watch Dr Tim Lomas at TEDxZurich: <a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/tim_lomas_expanding_our_experiential_horizons_through_untranslatable_words">https://www.ted.com/talks/tim_lomas_expanding_our_experiential_horizons_through_untranslatable_words</a></p><p>You can also find Dr. Tim Lomas at: </p><p>Dr. Tim Lomas’ Website - <a href="https://www.drtimlomas.com/">https://www.drtimlomas.com/</a></p><p>Dr. Tim Lomas on Twitter - <a href="https://twitter.com/drtimlomas?lang=en">https://twitter.com/drtimlomas?lang=en</a></p><p>Dr. Tim Lomas on LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/drtimlomas/?originalSubdomain=uk">https://www.linkedin.com/in/drtimlomas/?originalSubdomain=uk</a></p><p>Read Dr. Tim Lomas’ Books - <a href="https://www.drtimlomas.com/books">https://www.drtimlomas.com/books</a></p><p>Read Dr. Tim Lomas’ Papers - <a href="https://www.drtimlomas.com/papers">https://www.drtimlomas.com/papers</a></p><p>Find Tim Lomas’ Happiness Dictionary on Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/happywordsproject/?hl=en">https://www.instagram.com/happywordsproject/?hl=en</a></p><p>Discover Tim’s Positive Lexicography, an interactive hub - <a href="https://hifisamurai.github.io/lexicography/">https://hifisamurai.github.io/lexicography/</a></p><p>Discover the Pema Chödrön  - <a href="https://pemachodronfoundation.org/">https://pemachodronfoundation.org/</a></p><p>Read Lisa Feldman Barrett’s Book – How Emotions Are Made - <a href="https://lisafeldmanbarrett.com/books/how-emotions-are-made/">https://lisafeldmanbarrett.com/books/how-emotions-are-made/</a></p><p>Read Emotional Intelligence by The Dalai Lama and Paul Ekman - <a href="https://tinyurl.com/r59y75pt">https://tinyurl.com/r59y75pt</a></p><p>The global Wellbeing Initiative - <a href="https://www.globalwellbeinginitiative.org/">https://www.globalwellbeinginitiative.org/</a></p><p>READ John Koenig’s - The Dictionary of Obscure Sorrows - <a href="https://tinyurl.com/28nxa8cs">https://tinyurl.com/28nxa8cs</a></p><p>Yancey Strickler & The Bento Society - <a href="https://www.ystrickler.com/">https://www.ystrickler.com/</a></p><p>Arvo Pärt- Spiegel im Spiegel - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ6Mzvh3XCc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ6Mzvh3XCc</a></p><p>The Kermode and Mayo Film Review Podcast - <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/kermode-and-mayos-film-review/id73802698">https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/kermode-and-mayos-film-review/id73802698</a></p><p>Sam Harris’ Waking Up App - <a href="https://wakingup.com/">https://wakingup.com/</a></p><p> </p><p>*** </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you  so much for listening!</i> </p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a>  </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>. </p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i> </p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a> </p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p><i>'Your customers will tell you what they want your product to be. Listening to what the customer wants is half the battle and the key to everything you do.'</i>  Andrew Barry </p><p>Andrew Barry (<a href="https://twitter.com/bazzaruto?lang=en">@bazzaruto</a>) is 'the course guy', an online teacher's teacher and founder of Curious Lion Learning.</p><p>If a single slogan could describe Andrew, it would be <i>'The more you learn, the better it gets'</i>, a line which he credits to a sporting TV network he used to watch while growing up, a self-confessed sports fanatic, in Cape Town, South Africa. </p><p>With a start at KPMG as a chartered accountant, Andrew veered off into teaching, having found his niche developing training for corporate companies.  </p><p>His vision is sharp: better learning experiences enhance both brand and culture, and he delights in creating the right digital or hybrid products to deliver just that for his clients.  His method? Taking the time to ask in depth questions and listening to what the customer wants. </p><p>In this interview, Andrew digs deep into the 8 component parts of TOC's (Transformational Online Courses), a term coined after analysing the process which had led him to several of his own personal transformations.</p><p>Far from the 'sage on the stage', he explains how we learn better from each other, the importance of establishing trust and credibility, and being student-centered. Host Anne Mühlethaler (a course nerd herself) also shares her best and worst online workshop stories, and asks Andrew about how to promote a digital course (when you hate promoting yourself), tech platforms (important or not?) and opportunities for early movers in the adult digital learning space.</p><p>For anyone trying to understand online learning, those interested in signing up for a course or perhaps even developing their own, this rich interview will not only leave you knowledgeable on the subject, but perhaps even yearning to learn something new. </p><p>Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from episode:</p><p> </p><p>Connect with Andrew on Twitter @Bazzaruto -  <a href="https://twitter.com/Bazzaruto">https://twitter.com/Bazzaruto</a>  or @CuriousLionInc <a href="https://twitter.com/CuriousLionInc">https://twitter.com/CuriousLionInc</a></p><p>On IG @Bazzaruto - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/bazzaruto/">https://www.instagram.com/bazzaruto/</a></p><p>On Youtube @Andrew Barry Teaches - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/Andrew%20BarryTeaches">https://www.youtube.com/c/Andrew%20BarryTeaches</a></p><p>or discover more on Curious Lion Learning - <a href="https://curiouslionlearning.com/">https://curiouslionlearning.com/</a></p><p>Andrew's $5 email course: <a href="https://curious-lion.ck.page/products/course-creator-email-course">https://curious-lion.ck.page/products/course-creator-email-course</a></p><p>His free ebook to create the perfect online course - <a href="https://curiouslionlearning.com/ebook/">https://curiouslionlearning.com/ebook/</a></p><p>Listen to the Curious Lion podcast - <a href="https://curiouslionlearning.com/podcast/">https://curiouslionlearning.com/podcast/</a></p><p>***</p><p>Anne's interview with Andrew on his podcast -<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/zw/podcast/36-anne-muhlethaler-on-mindfulness-in-the-world/id1539194896?i=1000528962519"> How did you Learn That </a></p><p>MOOCs - the meaning - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_open_online_course">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_open_online_course</a></p><p>Interview with <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/nadine-kelly-on-yoga-and-mental-health-reclaiming-her/id1516245733?i=1000529005781">Nadine Kelly </a></p><p>Akimbo workshops - <a href="https://akimbo.com/">https://akimbo.com/</a></p><p>Write of Passage course - <a href="https://writeofpassage.school/">https://writeofpassage.school/</a></p><p>The altMBA - <a href="https://altmba.com/">https://altmba.com/</a></p><p>Robbie Crabtree Performative Speaking - <a href="https://www.robbiecrabtree.com/">https://www.robbiecrabtree.com/</a></p><p>Ali Abdaal Part Time Youtuber Academy - <a href="https://academy.aliabdaal.com/">https://academy.aliabdaal.com/</a></p><p>Ish Baid, CEO of Virtually - <a href="https://twitter.com/IshBaid">https://twitter.com/IshBaid</a></p><p>Virtually - <a href="https://www.tryvirtually.com/">https://www.tryvirtually.com/</a></p><p>Seymour Papert - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Papert">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Papert</a></p><p>Jean Piaget - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Papert">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Papert</a></p><p>Andrew's Essays - <a href="https://curiouslionlearning.com/perfect-sales-offer-online-course/">https://curiouslionlearning.com/perfect-sales-offer-online-course/</a></p><p>Jim Collins 'Beyond Entrepreneurship 2.0' - <a href="https://www.jimcollins.com/books/BE2.html">https://www.jimcollins.com/books/BE2.html</a></p><p>Hasan Kubba 'The Unfair Advantage' -  <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Unfair-Advantage-Startup-Success-Starts/dp/1788163311">https://www.amazon.com/Unfair-Advantage-Startup-Success-Starts/dp/1788163311</a></p><p>Robert Moses 'The Power Broker' - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1111.The_Power_Broker">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1111.The_Power_Broker</a></p><p>The song It's Alright, Ma - <a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JBNWkCsmqAY">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JBNWkCsmqAY</a></p><p>Bob Marley's 'Jammin' - <a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1uM5exCBWzk">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1uM5exCBWzk</a></p><p>Shaka Zulu - <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaka">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaka</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out OfThe Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p><i>'Your customers will tell you what they want your product to be. Listening to what the customer wants is half the battle and the key to everything you do.'</i>  Andrew Barry </p><p>Andrew Barry (<a href="https://twitter.com/bazzaruto?lang=en">@bazzaruto</a>) is 'the course guy', an online teacher's teacher and founder of Curious Lion Learning.</p><p>If a single slogan could describe Andrew, it would be <i>'The more you learn, the better it gets'</i>, a line which he credits to a sporting TV network he used to watch while growing up, a self-confessed sports fanatic, in Cape Town, South Africa. </p><p>With a start at KPMG as a chartered accountant, Andrew veered off into teaching, having found his niche developing training for corporate companies.  </p><p>His vision is sharp: better learning experiences enhance both brand and culture, and he delights in creating the right digital or hybrid products to deliver just that for his clients.  His method? Taking the time to ask in depth questions and listening to what the customer wants. </p><p>In this interview, Andrew digs deep into the 8 component parts of TOC's (Transformational Online Courses), a term coined after analysing the process which had led him to several of his own personal transformations.</p><p>Far from the 'sage on the stage', he explains how we learn better from each other, the importance of establishing trust and credibility, and being student-centered. Host Anne Mühlethaler (a course nerd herself) also shares her best and worst online workshop stories, and asks Andrew about how to promote a digital course (when you hate promoting yourself), tech platforms (important or not?) and opportunities for early movers in the adult digital learning space.</p><p>For anyone trying to understand online learning, those interested in signing up for a course or perhaps even developing their own, this rich interview will not only leave you knowledgeable on the subject, but perhaps even yearning to learn something new. </p><p>Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from episode:</p><p> </p><p>Connect with Andrew on Twitter @Bazzaruto -  <a href="https://twitter.com/Bazzaruto">https://twitter.com/Bazzaruto</a>  or @CuriousLionInc <a href="https://twitter.com/CuriousLionInc">https://twitter.com/CuriousLionInc</a></p><p>On IG @Bazzaruto - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/bazzaruto/">https://www.instagram.com/bazzaruto/</a></p><p>On Youtube @Andrew Barry Teaches - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/Andrew%20BarryTeaches">https://www.youtube.com/c/Andrew%20BarryTeaches</a></p><p>or discover more on Curious Lion Learning - <a href="https://curiouslionlearning.com/">https://curiouslionlearning.com/</a></p><p>Andrew's $5 email course: <a href="https://curious-lion.ck.page/products/course-creator-email-course">https://curious-lion.ck.page/products/course-creator-email-course</a></p><p>His free ebook to create the perfect online course - <a href="https://curiouslionlearning.com/ebook/">https://curiouslionlearning.com/ebook/</a></p><p>Listen to the Curious Lion podcast - <a href="https://curiouslionlearning.com/podcast/">https://curiouslionlearning.com/podcast/</a></p><p>***</p><p>Anne's interview with Andrew on his podcast -<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/zw/podcast/36-anne-muhlethaler-on-mindfulness-in-the-world/id1539194896?i=1000528962519"> How did you Learn That </a></p><p>MOOCs - the meaning - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_open_online_course">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_open_online_course</a></p><p>Interview with <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/nadine-kelly-on-yoga-and-mental-health-reclaiming-her/id1516245733?i=1000529005781">Nadine Kelly </a></p><p>Akimbo workshops - <a href="https://akimbo.com/">https://akimbo.com/</a></p><p>Write of Passage course - <a href="https://writeofpassage.school/">https://writeofpassage.school/</a></p><p>The altMBA - <a href="https://altmba.com/">https://altmba.com/</a></p><p>Robbie Crabtree Performative Speaking - <a href="https://www.robbiecrabtree.com/">https://www.robbiecrabtree.com/</a></p><p>Ali Abdaal Part Time Youtuber Academy - <a href="https://academy.aliabdaal.com/">https://academy.aliabdaal.com/</a></p><p>Ish Baid, CEO of Virtually - <a href="https://twitter.com/IshBaid">https://twitter.com/IshBaid</a></p><p>Virtually - <a href="https://www.tryvirtually.com/">https://www.tryvirtually.com/</a></p><p>Seymour Papert - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Papert">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Papert</a></p><p>Jean Piaget - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Papert">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Papert</a></p><p>Andrew's Essays - <a href="https://curiouslionlearning.com/perfect-sales-offer-online-course/">https://curiouslionlearning.com/perfect-sales-offer-online-course/</a></p><p>Jim Collins 'Beyond Entrepreneurship 2.0' - <a href="https://www.jimcollins.com/books/BE2.html">https://www.jimcollins.com/books/BE2.html</a></p><p>Hasan Kubba 'The Unfair Advantage' -  <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Unfair-Advantage-Startup-Success-Starts/dp/1788163311">https://www.amazon.com/Unfair-Advantage-Startup-Success-Starts/dp/1788163311</a></p><p>Robert Moses 'The Power Broker' - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1111.The_Power_Broker">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1111.The_Power_Broker</a></p><p>The song It's Alright, Ma - <a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JBNWkCsmqAY">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JBNWkCsmqAY</a></p><p>Bob Marley's 'Jammin' - <a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1uM5exCBWzk">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1uM5exCBWzk</a></p><p>Shaka Zulu - <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaka">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaka</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out OfThe Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>'If you are not happy with the way things are, don't just complain. Go make things how they should be.' Derek Sivers</p><p>This episode marks the start of the second season of Out of the Clouds. Host Anne Mühlethaler returns with a solo episode, a podcast version of a piece she wrote recently. The topic is inspired by a book by Derek Sivers called 'Your Music and Your People'  - a wonderful read - which she was gifted anonymously earlier this year. One of the short stories or blog posts, called This is a Test, feels like an invitation to write and explore the value of testing things. Not taking them too seriously. Sivers calls it the 'let's see what happens approach'. Anne shares how taking small steps (baby steps, or even turtle steps) towards bigger goals feels so much more achievable when we consider the step to be a test. </p><p>Even turtle steps can take us far, which she later illustrates with a couple of personal stories - one involving an actual turtle! Later on, she explores the 'what next', after all the baby steps, and the tests when the inner critic shows up. </p><p>Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p>Show notes:</p><p>Derek Sivers - <a href="https://sive.rs/">https://sive.rs/</a></p><p>His book, Your Music and Your People - <a href="https://sive.rs/m">https://sive.rs/m</a></p><p>The post Get Personal - <a href="https://sive.rs/gpers">https://sive.rs/gpers</a></p><p>The post Captain T - <a href="https://sive.rs/capt">https://sive.rs/capt</a></p><p>Anne's post about testing and the value of experimentation - <a href="https://avm.consulting/looking-forward/about-hair-adventures-experimentation-and-communication">https://avm.consulting/looking-forward/about-hair-adventures-experimentation-and-communication</a></p><p>The post This is Only a Test - <a href="https://sive.rs/tvtest">https://sive.rs/tvtest</a></p><p>Coach  Martha Beck - <a href="https://marthabeck.com/">https://marthabeck.com/</a></p><p>The post Repeatedly Follow Up to Show You Care - <a href="https://sive.rs/3in">https://sive.rs/3in</a></p><p>Anne Lamott talking to Tim Ferriss about the Inner Critic - <a href="https://tim.blog/2021/07/09/anne-lamott/">https://tim.blog/2021/07/09/anne-lamott/</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out OfThe Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>'If you are not happy with the way things are, don't just complain. Go make things how they should be.' Derek Sivers</p><p>This episode marks the start of the second season of Out of the Clouds. Host Anne Mühlethaler returns with a solo episode, a podcast version of a piece she wrote recently. The topic is inspired by a book by Derek Sivers called 'Your Music and Your People'  - a wonderful read - which she was gifted anonymously earlier this year. One of the short stories or blog posts, called This is a Test, feels like an invitation to write and explore the value of testing things. Not taking them too seriously. Sivers calls it the 'let's see what happens approach'. Anne shares how taking small steps (baby steps, or even turtle steps) towards bigger goals feels so much more achievable when we consider the step to be a test. </p><p>Even turtle steps can take us far, which she later illustrates with a couple of personal stories - one involving an actual turtle! Later on, she explores the 'what next', after all the baby steps, and the tests when the inner critic shows up. </p><p>Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p>Show notes:</p><p>Derek Sivers - <a href="https://sive.rs/">https://sive.rs/</a></p><p>His book, Your Music and Your People - <a href="https://sive.rs/m">https://sive.rs/m</a></p><p>The post Get Personal - <a href="https://sive.rs/gpers">https://sive.rs/gpers</a></p><p>The post Captain T - <a href="https://sive.rs/capt">https://sive.rs/capt</a></p><p>Anne's post about testing and the value of experimentation - <a href="https://avm.consulting/looking-forward/about-hair-adventures-experimentation-and-communication">https://avm.consulting/looking-forward/about-hair-adventures-experimentation-and-communication</a></p><p>The post This is Only a Test - <a href="https://sive.rs/tvtest">https://sive.rs/tvtest</a></p><p>Coach  Martha Beck - <a href="https://marthabeck.com/">https://marthabeck.com/</a></p><p>The post Repeatedly Follow Up to Show You Care - <a href="https://sive.rs/3in">https://sive.rs/3in</a></p><p>Anne Lamott talking to Tim Ferriss about the Inner Critic - <a href="https://tim.blog/2021/07/09/anne-lamott/">https://tim.blog/2021/07/09/anne-lamott/</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out OfThe Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<h2> </h2><p>­In this new episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews Nadine Kelly (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/yogimdnet/?hl=en">https://www.instagram.com/yogimdnet/?hl=en</a>),  a retired pathologist, experienced yoga instructor, American Council of Exercise certified Health Coach and Senior Exercise Specialist. She is also the founder of YOGI M.D. and host of the YOGI M.D. Podcast.</p><p>­Anne and Nadine are Akimbo alumni, they met in 2020 on the Podcasting Fellowship, an online course for budding podcasters hosted by Seth Godin and Alex di Palma. </p><p>In this conversation, Nadine candidly reveals her journey leaving her medical career due to depression to finding her path as a yoga teacher, and later on as a health coach. Anne and Nadine discuss the link between yoga and mental wellness, and how Nadine's calling to teach seniors who she warmly refers to as her ‘wise women’. They talk about their learnings from coaching, particularly around limiting beliefs, and the value in Nadine’s motto: no strain, no gain. </p><p>The two of them found tremendous value in Seth Godin’s Akimbo workshops, which Nadine calls ‘the classroom she always wished she'd had’ and touch on the importance of good teachers. Especially good music teachers: Nadine is a keen drummer, while Anne is a pianist and vocalist.</p><p>Nadine’s love of podcasting contagious, she is dedicated to her audience and to the intimacy of the medium: 'When I record my podcast episodes, when I sit with my guests,  the feeling I want to have is we're nerding out in my living room'. Nerding out on yoga, fitness, health and wellness, like the six dimensions of well-being. </p><p>A bright conversation! Enjoy!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>Selected Links from Episode:</p><p> </p><p>You can find Nadine at: </p><p> </p><p>Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/yogimdnet/?hl=en">https://www.instagram.com/yogimdnet/?hl=en</a></p><p>Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/yogimdnet/">https://www.facebook.com/yogimdnet/</a></p><p>Pintrest - <a href="https://www.pinterest.co.uk/yogimdnet/">https://www.pinterest.co.uk/yogimdnet/</a></p><p>YouTube - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/YOGIMD">https://www.youtube.com/c/YOGIMD</a></p><p> </p><p>Find out more about Nadine at her website - <a href="https://yogimd.net/">https://yogimd.net/</a></p><p> </p><p>Discover the Akimbo Workshop - <a href="https://www.akimbo.com/">https://www.akimbo.com/</a></p><p> </p><p>Listen to Nadine’s Podcast, The Yogi M.D. Podcast - <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-yogi-m-d-podcast/id1431080351">https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-yogi-m-d-podcast/id1431080351</a></p><p>Listen to Nadine’s Podcast episode with Seth Godin - <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/social-health-contributing-to-community-with-seth-godin/id1431080351?i=1000504532259">https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/social-health-contributing-to-community-with-seth-godin/id1431080351?i=1000504532259</a></p><p> </p><p>Listen to Nadine's Podcast episode with Bernadette Jiwa - <a href="https://mindful-health-for-the-wise-woman.simplecast.com/episodes/social-health-effective-communication-with-bernadette-jiwa">https://mindful-health-for-the-wise-woman.simplecast.com/episodes/social-health-effective-communication-with-bernadette-jiwa</a></p><p>Read Seth Godin’s blog - <a href="https://seths.blog/">https://seths.blog/</a></p><p>Listen to Sting – Why Should I Cry For You? - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZSGQ5wMaDE">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZSGQ5wMaDE</a></p><p>Read Matthew Walker’s Why We Sleep - <a href="https://www.waterstones.com/book/why-we-sleep/matthew-walker/9780141983769">https://www.waterstones.com/book/why-we-sleep/matthew-walker/9780141983769</a></p><p>Read Stephen Covey’s The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People</p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36072.The_7_Habits_of_Highly_Effective_People">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36072.The_7_Habits_of_Highly_Effective_People</a></p><p>Read Natalie Nixon’s The Creativity Leap - <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/634022/the-creativity-leap-by-natalie-nixon/">https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/634022/the-creativity-leap-by-natalie-nixon/</a></p><p>Read Arianna Huffington’s Thrive - <a href="https://www.waterstones.com/book/thrive/arianna-huffington/9780753555422">https://www.waterstones.com/book/thrive/arianna-huffington/9780753555422</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out OfThe Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<h2> </h2><p>­In this new episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews Nadine Kelly (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/yogimdnet/?hl=en">https://www.instagram.com/yogimdnet/?hl=en</a>),  a retired pathologist, experienced yoga instructor, American Council of Exercise certified Health Coach and Senior Exercise Specialist. She is also the founder of YOGI M.D. and host of the YOGI M.D. Podcast.</p><p>­Anne and Nadine are Akimbo alumni, they met in 2020 on the Podcasting Fellowship, an online course for budding podcasters hosted by Seth Godin and Alex di Palma. </p><p>In this conversation, Nadine candidly reveals her journey leaving her medical career due to depression to finding her path as a yoga teacher, and later on as a health coach. Anne and Nadine discuss the link between yoga and mental wellness, and how Nadine's calling to teach seniors who she warmly refers to as her ‘wise women’. They talk about their learnings from coaching, particularly around limiting beliefs, and the value in Nadine’s motto: no strain, no gain. </p><p>The two of them found tremendous value in Seth Godin’s Akimbo workshops, which Nadine calls ‘the classroom she always wished she'd had’ and touch on the importance of good teachers. Especially good music teachers: Nadine is a keen drummer, while Anne is a pianist and vocalist.</p><p>Nadine’s love of podcasting contagious, she is dedicated to her audience and to the intimacy of the medium: 'When I record my podcast episodes, when I sit with my guests,  the feeling I want to have is we're nerding out in my living room'. Nerding out on yoga, fitness, health and wellness, like the six dimensions of well-being. </p><p>A bright conversation! Enjoy!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>Selected Links from Episode:</p><p> </p><p>You can find Nadine at: </p><p> </p><p>Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/yogimdnet/?hl=en">https://www.instagram.com/yogimdnet/?hl=en</a></p><p>Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/yogimdnet/">https://www.facebook.com/yogimdnet/</a></p><p>Pintrest - <a href="https://www.pinterest.co.uk/yogimdnet/">https://www.pinterest.co.uk/yogimdnet/</a></p><p>YouTube - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/YOGIMD">https://www.youtube.com/c/YOGIMD</a></p><p> </p><p>Find out more about Nadine at her website - <a href="https://yogimd.net/">https://yogimd.net/</a></p><p> </p><p>Discover the Akimbo Workshop - <a href="https://www.akimbo.com/">https://www.akimbo.com/</a></p><p> </p><p>Listen to Nadine’s Podcast, The Yogi M.D. Podcast - <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-yogi-m-d-podcast/id1431080351">https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-yogi-m-d-podcast/id1431080351</a></p><p>Listen to Nadine’s Podcast episode with Seth Godin - <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/social-health-contributing-to-community-with-seth-godin/id1431080351?i=1000504532259">https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/social-health-contributing-to-community-with-seth-godin/id1431080351?i=1000504532259</a></p><p> </p><p>Listen to Nadine's Podcast episode with Bernadette Jiwa - <a href="https://mindful-health-for-the-wise-woman.simplecast.com/episodes/social-health-effective-communication-with-bernadette-jiwa">https://mindful-health-for-the-wise-woman.simplecast.com/episodes/social-health-effective-communication-with-bernadette-jiwa</a></p><p>Read Seth Godin’s blog - <a href="https://seths.blog/">https://seths.blog/</a></p><p>Listen to Sting – Why Should I Cry For You? - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZSGQ5wMaDE">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZSGQ5wMaDE</a></p><p>Read Matthew Walker’s Why We Sleep - <a href="https://www.waterstones.com/book/why-we-sleep/matthew-walker/9780141983769">https://www.waterstones.com/book/why-we-sleep/matthew-walker/9780141983769</a></p><p>Read Stephen Covey’s The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People</p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36072.The_7_Habits_of_Highly_Effective_People">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36072.The_7_Habits_of_Highly_Effective_People</a></p><p>Read Natalie Nixon’s The Creativity Leap - <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/634022/the-creativity-leap-by-natalie-nixon/">https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/634022/the-creativity-leap-by-natalie-nixon/</a></p><p>Read Arianna Huffington’s Thrive - <a href="https://www.waterstones.com/book/thrive/arianna-huffington/9780753555422">https://www.waterstones.com/book/thrive/arianna-huffington/9780753555422</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out OfThe Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Solo Episode - Telling the WE story</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2021 13:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this solo episode, host Anne Muhlethaler was inspired by the fact that Geneva, her hometown where she currently resides, felt like the centre of the world as the city hosted Presidents Biden and Putin for the US/Russia summit, essentially happening a stone's throw away from her home. </p><p>The conversations picked up in the press prompted her to explore relationships as systems, how feedback offers about the person giving it, as well as our interconnectedness and what life can look like, when we embrace the other as one of us and shift from telling the I story to the story of WE. She closes on this quote from Sylvia Boorstein </p><p>“Ultimately it’s not the stories that determine our choices, but the stories we continue to choose.” </p><p>***</p><p>Select links from the episode: </p><p>Full written post - The WE story - <a href="https://avm.consulting/looking-forward/the-we-story">https://avm.consulting/looking-forward/the-we-story</a></p><p>Thanks for the Feedback - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18114120-thanks-for-the-feedback">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18114120-thanks-for-the-feedback</a></p><p>The Art of Possibility, by Roz and Benjamin Zander - <a href="https://www.benjaminzander.org/about/the-art-of-possibility/">https://www.benjaminzander.org/about/the-art-of-possibility/</a></p><p>The Parable of the Prickly Porcupine - <a href="https://cadconfessional.com/2018/09/20/139-parable-of-the-prickly-porcupine/">https://cadconfessional.com/2018/09/20/139-parable-of-the-prickly-porcupine/</a></p><p>Navigating conflict with a wise heart, by Tara Brach - <a href="https://www.tarabrach.com/navigating-conflict-part1/">https://www.tarabrach.com/navigating-conflict-part1/</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on  the podcast platform of your choice. And even better, share it with a friend. Thank you again for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this solo episode, host Anne Muhlethaler was inspired by the fact that Geneva, her hometown where she currently resides, felt like the centre of the world as the city hosted Presidents Biden and Putin for the US/Russia summit, essentially happening a stone's throw away from her home. </p><p>The conversations picked up in the press prompted her to explore relationships as systems, how feedback offers about the person giving it, as well as our interconnectedness and what life can look like, when we embrace the other as one of us and shift from telling the I story to the story of WE. She closes on this quote from Sylvia Boorstein </p><p>“Ultimately it’s not the stories that determine our choices, but the stories we continue to choose.” </p><p>***</p><p>Select links from the episode: </p><p>Full written post - The WE story - <a href="https://avm.consulting/looking-forward/the-we-story">https://avm.consulting/looking-forward/the-we-story</a></p><p>Thanks for the Feedback - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18114120-thanks-for-the-feedback">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18114120-thanks-for-the-feedback</a></p><p>The Art of Possibility, by Roz and Benjamin Zander - <a href="https://www.benjaminzander.org/about/the-art-of-possibility/">https://www.benjaminzander.org/about/the-art-of-possibility/</a></p><p>The Parable of the Prickly Porcupine - <a href="https://cadconfessional.com/2018/09/20/139-parable-of-the-prickly-porcupine/">https://cadconfessional.com/2018/09/20/139-parable-of-the-prickly-porcupine/</a></p><p>Navigating conflict with a wise heart, by Tara Brach - <a href="https://www.tarabrach.com/navigating-conflict-part1/">https://www.tarabrach.com/navigating-conflict-part1/</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on  the podcast platform of your choice. And even better, share it with a friend. Thank you again for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Helen Baynes on customer centricity and the power of listening</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2021 20:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this new episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews Customer Experience Specialist and consultant, Helen Baynes. (<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/helen-baynes-030b791/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/helen-baynes-030b791/</a>).  </p><p>Want to grow your business? "If you have a long-term ambition for your business, take your customers on the journey with you." offers Helen. </p><p>Anne and Helen met through a close common friend and more recently had a chance to work together, as both of them are consultants who share some specific values, in particular around empathy and customer centricity. </p><p>Helen is a Customer Experience Consultant and Strategic Advisor, based in the UK. She has worked in and around fashion retail, starting her career in management training at Harrods, before moving into online retail, in the very early days, with Net-A-Porter, where she stayed for over a decade. In her current role, she supports various companies, from fine jewelry, champagne, to  MPowder, a menopause supplement which is is very passionate about; for all of them, Helen is pioneering the digitalisation of traditional retail service values to meet the rapidly changing needs of increasingly digital consumers. </p><p>The two discuss the meaning of key principle in customer care such as experience design, the importance of recruitment, to have happy staff and customers, and how to measure lasting relationships with your brand through retention.</p><p>Helen also shares her favorite authors, talks about the one person we should all know about, before finishing to talk about what brings her happiness. Enjoy!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p>Selected Links from Episode:</p><p>You can find Helen at:  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/helen-baynes-030b791/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/helen-baynes-030b791/</a></p><p>Experience Design -  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_experience_design">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_experience_design</a></p><p>Service Design - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_design">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_design</a></p><p>Forrester, the consultancy - <a href="https://go.forrester.com/">https://go.forrester.com/</a></p><p>Nex Generation Customer Experience - <a href="https://nextgencx.wbresearch.com/">https://nextgencx.wbresearch.com/</a></p><p>Read Tony Hsieh’s book Delivering Happiness - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delivering_Happiness">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delivering_Happiness</a></p><p>Net-A-Porter - <a href="https://tinyurl.com/wr2sx2h3" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/wr2sx2h3</a></p><p>Worldnet - <a href="https://www.worldnet-intl.com/">https://www.worldnet-intl.com/</a></p><p>MPower – Menopause Supplements & Wellbeing - <a href="https://mpowder.store/">https://mpowder.store/</a></p><p>Anne Sebba - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Sebba">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Sebba</a></p><p>Griselda Pollock - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griselda_Pollock">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griselda_Pollock</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on  the podcast platform of your choice. And even better, share it with a friend. Thank you again for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this new episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews Customer Experience Specialist and consultant, Helen Baynes. (<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/helen-baynes-030b791/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/helen-baynes-030b791/</a>).  </p><p>Want to grow your business? "If you have a long-term ambition for your business, take your customers on the journey with you." offers Helen. </p><p>Anne and Helen met through a close common friend and more recently had a chance to work together, as both of them are consultants who share some specific values, in particular around empathy and customer centricity. </p><p>Helen is a Customer Experience Consultant and Strategic Advisor, based in the UK. She has worked in and around fashion retail, starting her career in management training at Harrods, before moving into online retail, in the very early days, with Net-A-Porter, where she stayed for over a decade. In her current role, she supports various companies, from fine jewelry, champagne, to  MPowder, a menopause supplement which is is very passionate about; for all of them, Helen is pioneering the digitalisation of traditional retail service values to meet the rapidly changing needs of increasingly digital consumers. </p><p>The two discuss the meaning of key principle in customer care such as experience design, the importance of recruitment, to have happy staff and customers, and how to measure lasting relationships with your brand through retention.</p><p>Helen also shares her favorite authors, talks about the one person we should all know about, before finishing to talk about what brings her happiness. Enjoy!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p>Selected Links from Episode:</p><p>You can find Helen at:  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/helen-baynes-030b791/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/helen-baynes-030b791/</a></p><p>Experience Design -  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_experience_design">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_experience_design</a></p><p>Service Design - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_design">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_design</a></p><p>Forrester, the consultancy - <a href="https://go.forrester.com/">https://go.forrester.com/</a></p><p>Nex Generation Customer Experience - <a href="https://nextgencx.wbresearch.com/">https://nextgencx.wbresearch.com/</a></p><p>Read Tony Hsieh’s book Delivering Happiness - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delivering_Happiness">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delivering_Happiness</a></p><p>Net-A-Porter - <a href="https://tinyurl.com/wr2sx2h3" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/wr2sx2h3</a></p><p>Worldnet - <a href="https://www.worldnet-intl.com/">https://www.worldnet-intl.com/</a></p><p>MPower – Menopause Supplements & Wellbeing - <a href="https://mpowder.store/">https://mpowder.store/</a></p><p>Anne Sebba - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Sebba">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Sebba</a></p><p>Griselda Pollock - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griselda_Pollock">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griselda_Pollock</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on  the podcast platform of your choice. And even better, share it with a friend. Thank you again for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi" target="_blank">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/" target="_blank">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Solo Episode - a Change in Leadership Style</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2021 21:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this second solo episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler shares thoughts after writing a post for AVM Consulting. The topic explored is collaboration,  or rather the importance of Collaborative Leadership vs the Hero Leadership, the importance of leaning into the wisdom at the meeting table and the real beauty or magic that can be found in the meeting rooms when engaging with everyone present. </p><p>Anne confesses she is leaning towards change, though she still partially identifies with the old leadership model, while thinking about how to better collaborate to pave the way for a better, more inclusive and successful future - whether at work or in the wider world. </p><p>❇ It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit. – Harry Truman</p><p><br />❇ None of us, including me, ever do great things. But we can all do small things, with great love, and together we can do something wonderful. – Mother Teresa</p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from episode: </p><p>Ted Talk on collaborative leadership by Lorna Davis : https://www.ted.com/talks/lorna_davis_a_guide_to_collaborative_leadership</p><p>Benjamin Zander's 'One Buttock Playing' : https://www.benjaminzander.org/collections/one-buttock-playing/</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecas - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this second solo episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler shares thoughts after writing a post for AVM Consulting. The topic explored is collaboration,  or rather the importance of Collaborative Leadership vs the Hero Leadership, the importance of leaning into the wisdom at the meeting table and the real beauty or magic that can be found in the meeting rooms when engaging with everyone present. </p><p>Anne confesses she is leaning towards change, though she still partially identifies with the old leadership model, while thinking about how to better collaborate to pave the way for a better, more inclusive and successful future - whether at work or in the wider world. </p><p>❇ It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit. – Harry Truman</p><p><br />❇ None of us, including me, ever do great things. But we can all do small things, with great love, and together we can do something wonderful. – Mother Teresa</p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from episode: </p><p>Ted Talk on collaborative leadership by Lorna Davis : https://www.ted.com/talks/lorna_davis_a_guide_to_collaborative_leadership</p><p>Benjamin Zander's 'One Buttock Playing' : https://www.benjaminzander.org/collections/one-buttock-playing/</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecas - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Todd Lynn on fashion as an ideas laboratory and why everyone wants to be a rockstar</title>
			<itunes:title>Todd Lynn on fashion as an ideas laboratory and why everyone wants to be a rockstar</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2021 17:30:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this new episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews Canadian ready-to-wear designer Todd Lynn (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/toddlynnlondon/">@toddlynnlondon</a>).</p><p>Anne and Todd have known each other since 2000, whilst Anne was starting out at Christian Louboutin in London, and Todd was designing at Roland Mouret. They became close friends over the years and worked together closely, especially after Todd launched his eponymous brand in 2006.</p><p>Todd is considered rock and roll’s best-kept secret. His clients include U2, The Rolling Stones, Beyonce, The Savages, Lady Gaga, Courtney Love, Janet Jackson and P.J. Harvey. His collection embodies the effortless, dark and beautiful rock and roll cool that his music industry heavy hitters have long appreciated, a hybrid fusion of perfect tailoring and casual deconstruction.</p><p>The two discuss the joy and the challenges of having your own brand, the future of sustainability, and Todd’s thoughtful opinions around fashion as an ideas system. They touch on Todd's many incredible musical collaborations as he has dressed many a rock star and reflect upon both the glamour and hard work involved, especially when going on tour.</p><p>Todd also offers his mindfulness rituals, which more recently evolved to include baking cakes. Baking has allowed Todd to “connect to a process”, which is somewhat similar to his meticulous collection development process.</p><p>Todd then shares thoughts on teaching BA Students at Kingston University, the best advice he ever received from his teacher, the much-missed Louise Wilson, and finishes on the many books stacked up by his bedside. Enjoy!</p><p>***</p><p>Selected Links from Episode:</p><p>You can find Todd at : <a href="http://toddlynn.com/">Toddlynn.com</a></p><p>or on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/toddlynnlondon?lang=en">@ToddLynnLondon</a></p><p>on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/toddlynnlondon/">@ToddLynnLondon</a></p><p>Developing a Fashion Collection – Basic Fashion Design - <a href="https://www.waterstones.com/book/developing-a-fashion-collection/elinor-renfrew/todd-lynn/9781350132559">https://www.waterstones.com/book/developing-a-fashion-collection/elinor-renfrew/todd-lynn/9781350132559</a></p><p>Fashion Phoenix - Directed by John Bland - <a href="http://film-directory.britishcouncil.org/fashion-phoenix">http://film-directory.britishcouncil.org/fashion-phoenix</a></p><p>Be Good to Your Gut – Eve Kalinik - <a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Good-Your-Gut-delicious/dp/0349414920">https://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Good-Your-Gut-delicious/dp/0349414920</a></p><p>David Guetta ft. Sia – Titanium - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRfuAukYTKg">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRfuAukYTKg</a></p><p>Second hand Todd Lynn Designs -Vestiaire Collective - <a href="https://www.vestiairecollective.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjw-e2EBhAhEiwAJI5jg4F3qlvjxsuTXxk9IGJVltVBwJ1betUAB6Aa-ZSrsWIUGlZFkoBIORoCwAAQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds">https://www.vestiairecollective.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjw-e2EBhAhEiwAJI5jg4F3qlvjxsuTXxk9IGJVltVBwJ1betUAB6Aa-ZSrsWIUGlZFkoBIORoCwAAQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecas - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this new episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews Canadian ready-to-wear designer Todd Lynn (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/toddlynnlondon/">@toddlynnlondon</a>).</p><p>Anne and Todd have known each other since 2000, whilst Anne was starting out at Christian Louboutin in London, and Todd was designing at Roland Mouret. They became close friends over the years and worked together closely, especially after Todd launched his eponymous brand in 2006.</p><p>Todd is considered rock and roll’s best-kept secret. His clients include U2, The Rolling Stones, Beyonce, The Savages, Lady Gaga, Courtney Love, Janet Jackson and P.J. Harvey. His collection embodies the effortless, dark and beautiful rock and roll cool that his music industry heavy hitters have long appreciated, a hybrid fusion of perfect tailoring and casual deconstruction.</p><p>The two discuss the joy and the challenges of having your own brand, the future of sustainability, and Todd’s thoughtful opinions around fashion as an ideas system. They touch on Todd's many incredible musical collaborations as he has dressed many a rock star and reflect upon both the glamour and hard work involved, especially when going on tour.</p><p>Todd also offers his mindfulness rituals, which more recently evolved to include baking cakes. Baking has allowed Todd to “connect to a process”, which is somewhat similar to his meticulous collection development process.</p><p>Todd then shares thoughts on teaching BA Students at Kingston University, the best advice he ever received from his teacher, the much-missed Louise Wilson, and finishes on the many books stacked up by his bedside. Enjoy!</p><p>***</p><p>Selected Links from Episode:</p><p>You can find Todd at : <a href="http://toddlynn.com/">Toddlynn.com</a></p><p>or on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/toddlynnlondon?lang=en">@ToddLynnLondon</a></p><p>on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/toddlynnlondon/">@ToddLynnLondon</a></p><p>Developing a Fashion Collection – Basic Fashion Design - <a href="https://www.waterstones.com/book/developing-a-fashion-collection/elinor-renfrew/todd-lynn/9781350132559">https://www.waterstones.com/book/developing-a-fashion-collection/elinor-renfrew/todd-lynn/9781350132559</a></p><p>Fashion Phoenix - Directed by John Bland - <a href="http://film-directory.britishcouncil.org/fashion-phoenix">http://film-directory.britishcouncil.org/fashion-phoenix</a></p><p>Be Good to Your Gut – Eve Kalinik - <a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Good-Your-Gut-delicious/dp/0349414920">https://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Good-Your-Gut-delicious/dp/0349414920</a></p><p>David Guetta ft. Sia – Titanium - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRfuAukYTKg">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRfuAukYTKg</a></p><p>Second hand Todd Lynn Designs -Vestiaire Collective - <a href="https://www.vestiairecollective.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjw-e2EBhAhEiwAJI5jg4F3qlvjxsuTXxk9IGJVltVBwJ1betUAB6Aa-ZSrsWIUGlZFkoBIORoCwAAQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds">https://www.vestiairecollective.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjw-e2EBhAhEiwAJI5jg4F3qlvjxsuTXxk9IGJVltVBwJ1betUAB6Aa-ZSrsWIUGlZFkoBIORoCwAAQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecas - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, the first of its kind, host of Out of the Clouds Anne Muhlethaler introduces a solo episode. Unlike the interviews with her varied guests, this is a scripted show, an audio version of the blog post she publishes weekly on her other platform, AVM Consulting (avm.consulting). </p><p>Called Looking Forward, the blog is a jumping-off point where Anne explores business, the future of work, and like Out of the Clouds, applying a lens of mindfulness. </p><p>In this show, her exploration is at the crossroads of two questions she asks every guest on the podcast: what is your favourite word? and what brings you happiness? </p><p>In a moment of procrastination of sorts, she went back to listen to the interview with yoga teacher Chris Magee, whose answer to the final question touched on the Japanese concept of Ikigai. The interview led Anne to a rediscovery of her favourite word -  harmony -  before exploring musical metaphors and the wonderful leadership advice from conductor Ted Speaker and author Benjamin Zander. </p><p>Enjoy!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p>Selected links from episode:</p><p>MMTCP course <a href="https://mmtcp.soundstrue.com/">on SoundsTrue.com</a> with Tara Brach and Jack Kornfield</p><p>Ikigai <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikigai">on Wikipedia</a></p><p>Benjamin Zander Ted Talk <a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/benjamin_zander_the_transformative_power_of_classical_music/transcript?language=en">on Ted.com</a></p><p>One Buttock Playing, the concept explained <a href="https://www.benjaminzander.org/collections/one-buttock-playing/">on BenjaminZander.com</a></p><p>Kate Raworth on Doughnut Economics on the <a href="https://play.acast.com/s/intelligencesquared/gettingintothedoughnut-withkateraworthandmatthewtaylor">Intelligence Squared podcast </a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and  also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For notes and full episode transcript, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p>Get in touch with Anne<i>:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: @annvi & <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-muhlethaler-a1323010/">Anne Muhlethaler </a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, the first of its kind, host of Out of the Clouds Anne Muhlethaler introduces a solo episode. Unlike the interviews with her varied guests, this is a scripted show, an audio version of the blog post she publishes weekly on her other platform, AVM Consulting (avm.consulting). </p><p>Called Looking Forward, the blog is a jumping-off point where Anne explores business, the future of work, and like Out of the Clouds, applying a lens of mindfulness. </p><p>In this show, her exploration is at the crossroads of two questions she asks every guest on the podcast: what is your favourite word? and what brings you happiness? </p><p>In a moment of procrastination of sorts, she went back to listen to the interview with yoga teacher Chris Magee, whose answer to the final question touched on the Japanese concept of Ikigai. The interview led Anne to a rediscovery of her favourite word -  harmony -  before exploring musical metaphors and the wonderful leadership advice from conductor Ted Speaker and author Benjamin Zander. </p><p>Enjoy!</p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p>Selected links from episode:</p><p>MMTCP course <a href="https://mmtcp.soundstrue.com/">on SoundsTrue.com</a> with Tara Brach and Jack Kornfield</p><p>Ikigai <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikigai">on Wikipedia</a></p><p>Benjamin Zander Ted Talk <a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/benjamin_zander_the_transformative_power_of_classical_music/transcript?language=en">on Ted.com</a></p><p>One Buttock Playing, the concept explained <a href="https://www.benjaminzander.org/collections/one-buttock-playing/">on BenjaminZander.com</a></p><p>Kate Raworth on Doughnut Economics on the <a href="https://play.acast.com/s/intelligencesquared/gettingintothedoughnut-withkateraworthandmatthewtaylor">Intelligence Squared podcast </a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and  also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For notes and full episode transcript, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p>Get in touch with Anne<i>:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: @annvi & <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-muhlethaler-a1323010/">Anne Muhlethaler </a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>April Davila on mindful writing, right view and the importance of consistency</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this new episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews novelist and mindfulness teacher April Davila (<a href="https://twitter.com/aprildavila">@aprildavila</a>). </p><p>Anne and April got to know each other thanks to their two-year certification training course, or MMTCP, which they completed earlier this year, meeting over Zoom during the closing retreat hosted by their teachers Tara Brach and Jack Kornfield. </p><p>April, a fourth generation Californian shares her journey from scientist to professional writer, to novelist. She offers insights about both her writing process as well as  what it was like publishing her first novel, '142 Ostriches', and recounts the wonderful story of how she found her agent - plus the joys and challenges of launching a book in a pandemic. </p><p>April started offering mindful writing sessions and workshops over the past year and talks about how this turned into a very meaningful project called 'A Very Important Meeting'. The two discuss the surprising benefits of meditation practice to support creativity - something Anne was delighted to discover after she participated in  April's last workshop.</p><p>They go on to discuss how mindfulness concepts like 'right view' help the editing process when writing, and April shares tips and resources for writers, before sharing her current favorite reads.  Enjoy!</p><p>***</p><p>Selected Links from Episode:</p><p>You can find April at : <a href="https://aprildavila.com/">AprilDavila.com</a></p><p>or on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/aprildavila">@Aprildavila</a></p><p>on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/aprildavila/">@Aprildavila</a></p><p>Discover April's novel <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1496724704">'142 Ostriches'</a></p><p>You can join the community and join <a href="https://www.averyimportantmeeting.com/">A Very Important Meeting </a></p><p><a href="https://www.spiritrock.org/">Spirit Rock meditation center </a></p><p><a href="https://jackkornfield.com/">Jack Kornfield </a></p><p><a href="https://aprildavila.com/early-to-write/">7 tips to get early to write</a> - blog post by April</p><p><a href="https://literaryagentmarkgottlieb.com/blog/johnscognamiglio">John Scogniamiglio </a>at Kensington Books</p><p><a href="https://soniaweiser.wordpress.com/opportunities-of-the-week-newsletter/">Opportunities of the Week</a> newsletter </p><p><a href="https://mmtcp.soundstrue.com/">MMTCP</a> - Mindfulness & Meditation Teacher Certification Program with Tara Brach and Jack Kornfield</p><p><a href="https://www.etymonline.com/word/sequoia">Sequoia</a> etymology </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoA0cTC228M">Dance Yrself Clean</a> by LCD Soundsystem</p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/51236405-noopiming">Noopiming </a>by Leanne Betasamosake Simpson</p><p><a href="https://www.the1thing.com/">The One Thing</a> book by Gary Keller, Jay Papasan</p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43263540-for-the-love-of-men"> For the Love of Men</a> by Liz Plank</p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12934562-the-mindful-writer">The Mindful Writer</a>, by Dinty W. Moore</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Salopek">Paul Salopek</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.org/projects/out-of-eden-walk/">Out of Eden</a>, the project by Paul Salopek with the National Geographic</p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and  also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this new episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews novelist and mindfulness teacher April Davila (<a href="https://twitter.com/aprildavila">@aprildavila</a>). </p><p>Anne and April got to know each other thanks to their two-year certification training course, or MMTCP, which they completed earlier this year, meeting over Zoom during the closing retreat hosted by their teachers Tara Brach and Jack Kornfield. </p><p>April, a fourth generation Californian shares her journey from scientist to professional writer, to novelist. She offers insights about both her writing process as well as  what it was like publishing her first novel, '142 Ostriches', and recounts the wonderful story of how she found her agent - plus the joys and challenges of launching a book in a pandemic. </p><p>April started offering mindful writing sessions and workshops over the past year and talks about how this turned into a very meaningful project called 'A Very Important Meeting'. The two discuss the surprising benefits of meditation practice to support creativity - something Anne was delighted to discover after she participated in  April's last workshop.</p><p>They go on to discuss how mindfulness concepts like 'right view' help the editing process when writing, and April shares tips and resources for writers, before sharing her current favorite reads.  Enjoy!</p><p>***</p><p>Selected Links from Episode:</p><p>You can find April at : <a href="https://aprildavila.com/">AprilDavila.com</a></p><p>or on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/aprildavila">@Aprildavila</a></p><p>on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/aprildavila/">@Aprildavila</a></p><p>Discover April's novel <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1496724704">'142 Ostriches'</a></p><p>You can join the community and join <a href="https://www.averyimportantmeeting.com/">A Very Important Meeting </a></p><p><a href="https://www.spiritrock.org/">Spirit Rock meditation center </a></p><p><a href="https://jackkornfield.com/">Jack Kornfield </a></p><p><a href="https://aprildavila.com/early-to-write/">7 tips to get early to write</a> - blog post by April</p><p><a href="https://literaryagentmarkgottlieb.com/blog/johnscognamiglio">John Scogniamiglio </a>at Kensington Books</p><p><a href="https://soniaweiser.wordpress.com/opportunities-of-the-week-newsletter/">Opportunities of the Week</a> newsletter </p><p><a href="https://mmtcp.soundstrue.com/">MMTCP</a> - Mindfulness & Meditation Teacher Certification Program with Tara Brach and Jack Kornfield</p><p><a href="https://www.etymonline.com/word/sequoia">Sequoia</a> etymology </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoA0cTC228M">Dance Yrself Clean</a> by LCD Soundsystem</p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/51236405-noopiming">Noopiming </a>by Leanne Betasamosake Simpson</p><p><a href="https://www.the1thing.com/">The One Thing</a> book by Gary Keller, Jay Papasan</p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43263540-for-the-love-of-men"> For the Love of Men</a> by Liz Plank</p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12934562-the-mindful-writer">The Mindful Writer</a>, by Dinty W. Moore</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Salopek">Paul Salopek</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.org/projects/out-of-eden-walk/">Out of Eden</a>, the project by Paul Salopek with the National Geographic</p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and  also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, Anne Muhlethaler interviews Keris Masden (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/fitterfood/">@fitterfood</a>), in a first of what may be several interviews with the highly qualified naturopathic nutritional therapist, trainer and lecturer at the College of Naturopathic Medicine. Keris, with her partner Matt Whitmore, runs Fitter Food: a comprehensive platform offering good food, optimal health and tools to get fit and active, and leading long and happy lives.</p><p>Anne invites Keris to share first the why behind her path into personal training, and then into naturopathy. A very personal journey indeed, in large part motivated by a loved one's cancer diagnosis and a chance encounter with a naturopath at an event. Anne and Keris also share their personal experiences in and around burnout, which leads them to discuss the function of breath in gut health and the importance of finding ways to release the stress cycle in our modern (and currently pandemic) environment. </p><p>Keris then explains how she first got interested in the Paleo diet, how she thinks it can  be adapted and how it supports a healthier lifestyle. Herself a keen cook (and a budding chocolatier), she started creating deliciously nutritious recipes for her clients, which then turned into her first book, 'The Paleo Primer'. She kindly credits her dog Hamish, a Bavarian mountain hound, as her best personal trainer and advisor, who is also a paleo convert. </p><p>The two finish as always discussing mindfulness tips, the importance of community, favourite books (The Salt Path by Raynor Winn), the best advice Keris received from a friend (watch your gut!) and what brings her happiness. A really wonderful, personal and powerful conversation. Enjoy!</p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from the episode: </p><p>You can find Keris at <a href="https://fitterfood.com/about/">Fitterfood.com </a></p><p>Join the <a href="https://fitter365.com/">Fitter 365 program</a></p><p>Listen to the <a href="https://fitterfood.com/tag/podcast/">Fitter Food podcast</a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/FitterFood">on Facebook</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/fitter_food">on Twitter </a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/fitterfood/">on Instagram</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA7ps9Wv7r0aSw8N_ko5G3w">on Youtube</a></p><p>Keris also <a href="https://fitterfood.com/blog/">blogs regularly</a> on Fitter Food about her own experiences with naturopathy, healthcare, etc.  Very much worth a read.</p><p><a href="https://thecnm.com/">The College of Naturopathic Medicine</a> - (UK, US & Ireland)</p><p><a href="https://www.ifm.org/functional-medicine/what-is-functional-medicine/">Functional Medicine</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_diet">The Paleo Diet on Wikipedia</a></p><p>The <a href="https://www.primalblueprint.com/products/the-paleo-primer">Paleo Primer book </a></p><p><a href="https://www.ekhartyoga.com/teachers/mark-freeth">Mark Freeth Freestyle Yoga</a></p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/42397849-burnout">Burnout</a> by Emily and Amelia Nagoski </p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/178-breathe-with-james-nestor/id1212064750?i=1000514586000">Russell Brand's interview of James Nestor</a> about breathing and his book, Breath</p><p>James Nestor's book, <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48890486-breath">Breath</a></p><p><a href="https://rockchoir.com/">The Rock Choir </a></p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/38085814-the-salt-path">The Salt Path by Raynor Winn </a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and  also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, Anne Muhlethaler interviews Keris Masden (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/fitterfood/">@fitterfood</a>), in a first of what may be several interviews with the highly qualified naturopathic nutritional therapist, trainer and lecturer at the College of Naturopathic Medicine. Keris, with her partner Matt Whitmore, runs Fitter Food: a comprehensive platform offering good food, optimal health and tools to get fit and active, and leading long and happy lives.</p><p>Anne invites Keris to share first the why behind her path into personal training, and then into naturopathy. A very personal journey indeed, in large part motivated by a loved one's cancer diagnosis and a chance encounter with a naturopath at an event. Anne and Keris also share their personal experiences in and around burnout, which leads them to discuss the function of breath in gut health and the importance of finding ways to release the stress cycle in our modern (and currently pandemic) environment. </p><p>Keris then explains how she first got interested in the Paleo diet, how she thinks it can  be adapted and how it supports a healthier lifestyle. Herself a keen cook (and a budding chocolatier), she started creating deliciously nutritious recipes for her clients, which then turned into her first book, 'The Paleo Primer'. She kindly credits her dog Hamish, a Bavarian mountain hound, as her best personal trainer and advisor, who is also a paleo convert. </p><p>The two finish as always discussing mindfulness tips, the importance of community, favourite books (The Salt Path by Raynor Winn), the best advice Keris received from a friend (watch your gut!) and what brings her happiness. A really wonderful, personal and powerful conversation. Enjoy!</p><p>***</p><p>Selected links from the episode: </p><p>You can find Keris at <a href="https://fitterfood.com/about/">Fitterfood.com </a></p><p>Join the <a href="https://fitter365.com/">Fitter 365 program</a></p><p>Listen to the <a href="https://fitterfood.com/tag/podcast/">Fitter Food podcast</a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/FitterFood">on Facebook</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/fitter_food">on Twitter </a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/fitterfood/">on Instagram</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA7ps9Wv7r0aSw8N_ko5G3w">on Youtube</a></p><p>Keris also <a href="https://fitterfood.com/blog/">blogs regularly</a> on Fitter Food about her own experiences with naturopathy, healthcare, etc.  Very much worth a read.</p><p><a href="https://thecnm.com/">The College of Naturopathic Medicine</a> - (UK, US & Ireland)</p><p><a href="https://www.ifm.org/functional-medicine/what-is-functional-medicine/">Functional Medicine</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_diet">The Paleo Diet on Wikipedia</a></p><p>The <a href="https://www.primalblueprint.com/products/the-paleo-primer">Paleo Primer book </a></p><p><a href="https://www.ekhartyoga.com/teachers/mark-freeth">Mark Freeth Freestyle Yoga</a></p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/42397849-burnout">Burnout</a> by Emily and Amelia Nagoski </p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/178-breathe-with-james-nestor/id1212064750?i=1000514586000">Russell Brand's interview of James Nestor</a> about breathing and his book, Breath</p><p>James Nestor's book, <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48890486-breath">Breath</a></p><p><a href="https://rockchoir.com/">The Rock Choir </a></p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/38085814-the-salt-path">The Salt Path by Raynor Winn </a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and  also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews the highly creative fine jeweler Nina Runsdorf. The two know each other well, having first been introduced by a mutual friend in 2011, and are currently working together on developing Nina's business.  </p><p>The super chic designer, who has been at the head of her eponymous brand for a little over 15 years, talks first about her roots in family and design. She has essentially been making jewellery throughout her life, first starting at her parent's upstate farm in New York age 11, then in college with a friend, before launching Niana, a small brand with her sister Ann, with the mild support of their grandmother and the rest of the family. </p><p>After a few years working in retail, then as accessories director and then fashion director, Nina landed in jewelry again, this time in the diamond business. One thing led to another and her own brand was born. In this interview, the fiercely passionate New York native extols the virtues of being true to herself, how lucky she was to be taught by her mother about the importance of searching for treasures in unlikely places and why her jewellery is never too precious to wear - to be worn with a white t-shirt and jeans or with a ballgown. </p><p>Nina's vibrant and artistic approach extends to her relationship to her clients and her atelier on the Upper East Side of Manhattan. She knows what her clients want, because, as she explains, she is her own client!</p><p>Nina also candidly shares about the challenge of losing her husband and the support she got from friends and family, in bringing up her two daughters Alexa and Kate, while running a brand-new business. Anne and Nina end up as always on Out of the Clouds, discussing what brings happiness. A moving,light and wide-ranging conversation. </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p>Show notes: </p><p>Find Nina at <a href="https://www.ninarunsdorf.com/">Ninarunsdorf.com</a></p><p>or on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ninarunsdorfjewelry/">@NinaRunsdorfJewelry</a></p><p>Or Facebook<a href="https://www.facebook.com/NinaRunsdorf/"> @NinaRunsdorf</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ninarunsdorf.com/collections/the-flip-collection">Nina Runsdorf signature Flip Ring </a></p><p><a href="https://www.ralphlauren.ch/?ab=Geo_iCH_rUS_dCH&locale=de_CH">Ralph Lauren Rhinelander</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Drexler">Mickey Drexler</a></p><p><a href="https://www.stanleykorshak.com/">Stanley Korshak</a> in Dallas </p><p><a href="https://www.gia.edu/research-news-diamond-slices-shor">Sliced Diamonds</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ninarunsdorf.com/pages/the-phoenix">Nina Runsdorf Phoenix Collection </a>of Slice Diamonds with enamel </p><p><a href="http://www.tgms.org/show">Tucson Gem show</a></p><p><a href="https://thecoutureshow.com/">Couture Jewelry Show</a> in Las Vegas</p><p>Nina's <a href="https://wwd.com/fashion-news/designer-luxury/nina-runsdorf-introduces-colored-stones-2246766/">article in WWD</a> about pioneering Sliced diamonds and coloured slice</p><p><a href="https://www.net-a-porter.com/en-ch/">Net-a-porter.com</a></p><p><a href="https://www.matchesfashion.com/intl/womens">Matchesfashion.com</a></p><p><a href="https://justoneeye.com/">Just One Eye</a> in Los Angeles</p><p><a href="https://www.serenellausa.com/">Serenella</a></p><p>Nina Runsdorf <a href="https://www.ft.com/content/c29315d3-11bc-4425-af97-5ce14ab0f2db">on collecting in the Financial Times</a></p><p>Nina's closet shot <a href="https://coveteur.com/2019/01/14/inside-jewelry-designer-nina-runsdorf-closet/">by the Coveteur</a></p><p><a href="https://www.breguet.com/en">Breguet</a>, Swiss watches </p><p><a href="https://www.racheluffnergallery.com/artists/shara-hughes">Sarah Hughes</a></p><p>Nina's<a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinetell/2018/08/30/how-i-travel-nina-runsdorf/?sh=487213151ea4"> interview in Forbes</a> about travel</p><p>Nina Runsdorf <a href="https://www.ninarunsdorf.com/collections/all-that-is">All That Is Collection</a></p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/130656.Shoemaker_Of_Dreams?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=2JwVKAHNVA&rank=1">Salvatore Ferragamo</a>, the biography </p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/43982449-the-cartiers">The Cartier book</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and  also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews the highly creative fine jeweler Nina Runsdorf. The two know each other well, having first been introduced by a mutual friend in 2011, and are currently working together on developing Nina's business.  </p><p>The super chic designer, who has been at the head of her eponymous brand for a little over 15 years, talks first about her roots in family and design. She has essentially been making jewellery throughout her life, first starting at her parent's upstate farm in New York age 11, then in college with a friend, before launching Niana, a small brand with her sister Ann, with the mild support of their grandmother and the rest of the family. </p><p>After a few years working in retail, then as accessories director and then fashion director, Nina landed in jewelry again, this time in the diamond business. One thing led to another and her own brand was born. In this interview, the fiercely passionate New York native extols the virtues of being true to herself, how lucky she was to be taught by her mother about the importance of searching for treasures in unlikely places and why her jewellery is never too precious to wear - to be worn with a white t-shirt and jeans or with a ballgown. </p><p>Nina's vibrant and artistic approach extends to her relationship to her clients and her atelier on the Upper East Side of Manhattan. She knows what her clients want, because, as she explains, she is her own client!</p><p>Nina also candidly shares about the challenge of losing her husband and the support she got from friends and family, in bringing up her two daughters Alexa and Kate, while running a brand-new business. Anne and Nina end up as always on Out of the Clouds, discussing what brings happiness. A moving,light and wide-ranging conversation. </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p> </p><p>Show notes: </p><p>Find Nina at <a href="https://www.ninarunsdorf.com/">Ninarunsdorf.com</a></p><p>or on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ninarunsdorfjewelry/">@NinaRunsdorfJewelry</a></p><p>Or Facebook<a href="https://www.facebook.com/NinaRunsdorf/"> @NinaRunsdorf</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ninarunsdorf.com/collections/the-flip-collection">Nina Runsdorf signature Flip Ring </a></p><p><a href="https://www.ralphlauren.ch/?ab=Geo_iCH_rUS_dCH&locale=de_CH">Ralph Lauren Rhinelander</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Drexler">Mickey Drexler</a></p><p><a href="https://www.stanleykorshak.com/">Stanley Korshak</a> in Dallas </p><p><a href="https://www.gia.edu/research-news-diamond-slices-shor">Sliced Diamonds</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ninarunsdorf.com/pages/the-phoenix">Nina Runsdorf Phoenix Collection </a>of Slice Diamonds with enamel </p><p><a href="http://www.tgms.org/show">Tucson Gem show</a></p><p><a href="https://thecoutureshow.com/">Couture Jewelry Show</a> in Las Vegas</p><p>Nina's <a href="https://wwd.com/fashion-news/designer-luxury/nina-runsdorf-introduces-colored-stones-2246766/">article in WWD</a> about pioneering Sliced diamonds and coloured slice</p><p><a href="https://www.net-a-porter.com/en-ch/">Net-a-porter.com</a></p><p><a href="https://www.matchesfashion.com/intl/womens">Matchesfashion.com</a></p><p><a href="https://justoneeye.com/">Just One Eye</a> in Los Angeles</p><p><a href="https://www.serenellausa.com/">Serenella</a></p><p>Nina Runsdorf <a href="https://www.ft.com/content/c29315d3-11bc-4425-af97-5ce14ab0f2db">on collecting in the Financial Times</a></p><p>Nina's closet shot <a href="https://coveteur.com/2019/01/14/inside-jewelry-designer-nina-runsdorf-closet/">by the Coveteur</a></p><p><a href="https://www.breguet.com/en">Breguet</a>, Swiss watches </p><p><a href="https://www.racheluffnergallery.com/artists/shara-hughes">Sarah Hughes</a></p><p>Nina's<a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinetell/2018/08/30/how-i-travel-nina-runsdorf/?sh=487213151ea4"> interview in Forbes</a> about travel</p><p>Nina Runsdorf <a href="https://www.ninarunsdorf.com/collections/all-that-is">All That Is Collection</a></p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/130656.Shoemaker_Of_Dreams?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=2JwVKAHNVA&rank=1">Salvatore Ferragamo</a>, the biography </p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/43982449-the-cartiers">The Cartier book</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and  also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Chris Magee on his yoga journey - moving from injury to awareness, movement to introspection</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Chris Magee (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/mageesy/?hl=en">@mageesy</a>), head of yoga at Psycle London, is a teacher's teacher who runs trainings and retreats worldwide (in normal times), when he is not offering what is marketed to be the toughest yoga class in London,<a href="https://psyclelondon.com/pages/yoga"> aptly named OMFG. </a></p><p>The accomplished Irish yogi has had a surprising and compelling path. A keen rugby player in his teens, he then trained as an actor in London and was dutifully sent to yoga by his movement coach while in recovery from several injuries he'd previously suffered on the field. One thing led to another, more yoga and more injuries. He moved from what he referred to as 'ego-driven unawareness' to an entirely new path, one that revolutionised the way he trained himself and how he shared that with other people.</p><p>Chris holds the highest available  E-500RYT from Yoga Alliance and is trained in Hatha, Vinyasa, Budokon, Ashtanga, Rocket Yoga and Acro Yoga, with roughly 2000 hours of training to date.</p><p>In this conversation, Chris candidly shares his wins and challenges around practice since his early start, his move from acting to training to yoga and how all three talents combined somehow into a 'perfect storm'. Anne and Chris discuss the difficulties that can be expected while teaching in a pandemic, what are the ways in for beginners away from a studio, and what it's like to hold space for all different types of students to find what they need out of the practice. </p><p>Not only is Chris an incredibly experienced teacher with much to share, but he also knows how to make his story come to life  - we can only imagine how fun this must be for the students in his yoga class. Find all links to Chris' website and other details below. Enjoy!</p><p>***</p><p>You can find Chris on his website <a href="https://www.mageesy.com/">Mageesy.com</a></p><p>or on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/mageesy/?hl=en">@Mageesy</a></p><p>Links to his retreat later this year is <a href="https://www.mageesy.com/retreat">here </a></p><p>or on the website <a href="https://www.downtoflowescapes.com/worldwide-retreats">Down To Flow Escapes</a></p><p>The next teacher trainings with Chris are listed here at <a href="https://www.empoweredyogaschool.com/course">Empowered Yoga School </a></p><p>Or train with Chris on<a href="https://fiit.tv/trainers/chris-magee"> Fiit.tv </a></p><p><a href="https://psyclelondon.com/">Psycle London </a></p><p><a href="https://store.alanwatts.org/">Alan Watts</a></p><p><a href="https://theartofmeditation.org/about-aom/about-burgs/">Burgs</a></p><p><a href="https://shop.lululemon.com/p/yoga-accessories/The-Reversible-Mat-5/_/prod6750166?sz=ONESIZE">Lululemon reversible yoga mat</a></p><p><a href="https://www.fableyoga.com/">Fable Yoga </a></p><p><a href="https://www.yogi-bare.co.uk/">Yogi Bare </a></p><p><a href="https://eu.liforme.com/">Liforme Yoga Mat </a></p><p><a href="https://shop.lululemon.com/p/men-joggers/In-Mind-Pant/_/prod8555540?color=32476">Lululemon Men's</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nike.com/ch/en/w/mens-yoga-anrljznik1">Nike Men's</a></p><p><a href="https://www.aloyoga.com/collections/mens-bestsellers">Alo Yoga Men's</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatha_Yoga_Pradipika">Hatha Yoga Pradipika</a></p><p><a href="https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/why-im-no-longer-talking-to-white-people-about-race-9781408870587/">Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race</a></p><p><a href="https://jackkornfield.com/a-path-with-heart/">A Path with Heart by Jack Kornfield</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Cole">J Cole</a></p><p><a href="https://brenebrown.com/">Brené Brown </a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and  also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Chris Magee (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/mageesy/?hl=en">@mageesy</a>), head of yoga at Psycle London, is a teacher's teacher who runs trainings and retreats worldwide (in normal times), when he is not offering what is marketed to be the toughest yoga class in London,<a href="https://psyclelondon.com/pages/yoga"> aptly named OMFG. </a></p><p>The accomplished Irish yogi has had a surprising and compelling path. A keen rugby player in his teens, he then trained as an actor in London and was dutifully sent to yoga by his movement coach while in recovery from several injuries he'd previously suffered on the field. One thing led to another, more yoga and more injuries. He moved from what he referred to as 'ego-driven unawareness' to an entirely new path, one that revolutionised the way he trained himself and how he shared that with other people.</p><p>Chris holds the highest available  E-500RYT from Yoga Alliance and is trained in Hatha, Vinyasa, Budokon, Ashtanga, Rocket Yoga and Acro Yoga, with roughly 2000 hours of training to date.</p><p>In this conversation, Chris candidly shares his wins and challenges around practice since his early start, his move from acting to training to yoga and how all three talents combined somehow into a 'perfect storm'. Anne and Chris discuss the difficulties that can be expected while teaching in a pandemic, what are the ways in for beginners away from a studio, and what it's like to hold space for all different types of students to find what they need out of the practice. </p><p>Not only is Chris an incredibly experienced teacher with much to share, but he also knows how to make his story come to life  - we can only imagine how fun this must be for the students in his yoga class. Find all links to Chris' website and other details below. Enjoy!</p><p>***</p><p>You can find Chris on his website <a href="https://www.mageesy.com/">Mageesy.com</a></p><p>or on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/mageesy/?hl=en">@Mageesy</a></p><p>Links to his retreat later this year is <a href="https://www.mageesy.com/retreat">here </a></p><p>or on the website <a href="https://www.downtoflowescapes.com/worldwide-retreats">Down To Flow Escapes</a></p><p>The next teacher trainings with Chris are listed here at <a href="https://www.empoweredyogaschool.com/course">Empowered Yoga School </a></p><p>Or train with Chris on<a href="https://fiit.tv/trainers/chris-magee"> Fiit.tv </a></p><p><a href="https://psyclelondon.com/">Psycle London </a></p><p><a href="https://store.alanwatts.org/">Alan Watts</a></p><p><a href="https://theartofmeditation.org/about-aom/about-burgs/">Burgs</a></p><p><a href="https://shop.lululemon.com/p/yoga-accessories/The-Reversible-Mat-5/_/prod6750166?sz=ONESIZE">Lululemon reversible yoga mat</a></p><p><a href="https://www.fableyoga.com/">Fable Yoga </a></p><p><a href="https://www.yogi-bare.co.uk/">Yogi Bare </a></p><p><a href="https://eu.liforme.com/">Liforme Yoga Mat </a></p><p><a href="https://shop.lululemon.com/p/men-joggers/In-Mind-Pant/_/prod8555540?color=32476">Lululemon Men's</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nike.com/ch/en/w/mens-yoga-anrljznik1">Nike Men's</a></p><p><a href="https://www.aloyoga.com/collections/mens-bestsellers">Alo Yoga Men's</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatha_Yoga_Pradipika">Hatha Yoga Pradipika</a></p><p><a href="https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/why-im-no-longer-talking-to-white-people-about-race-9781408870587/">Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race</a></p><p><a href="https://jackkornfield.com/a-path-with-heart/">A Path with Heart by Jack Kornfield</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Cole">J Cole</a></p><p><a href="https://brenebrown.com/">Brené Brown </a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and  also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Sri Ganesh Santhiram on being bold, data as guiding light and empowering teams to drive success on digital</title>
			<itunes:title>Sri Ganesh Santhiram on being bold, data as guiding light and empowering teams to drive success on digital</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2021 17:30:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, Anne Muhlethaler speaks to Sri Ganesh Santhiram, a digital marketing and e-commerce leader with a passion for putting customer experience and message first.  </p><p>Ganesh shares his journey from being a football-loving kid growing up in Brighton to his MBA in Malaysia and how being at the forefront of data and insights offered him a way into digital and e-commerce. As someone focused on creating data-driven, consumer-centric strategies to drive digital growth, he goes over the challenges and opportunities for brands around digital transformation. Anne and Ganesh also discuss what they see as some of the roadblocks that hinder digital success for most businesses: from the roles people play in organisations, misalignment, a lack of empathy towards the client, poor creative messaging or lack of understanding of the digital environment at the leadership level. They also exchange and celebrate the brands and creatives that are able to translate or transcend the retail store experience  to offer immersive online experiences. </p><p>The two end on Ganesh's sporting passions,  how football taught him to focus on a team's common goal and his steps towards mindful mornings. A bright and insightful conversation.</p><p>***</p><p>Show notes: </p><p>You can find <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sgsanthiram/">Ganesh on LinkedIn </a></p><p><a href="https://cricut.com/en_wo?">Cricut</a></p><p><a href="https://www.luxurysociety.com/en/articles/2020/04/how-can-luxury-brands-their-e-commerce-game-post-covid19">Article by Ganesh for Luxury Society </a></p><p>And this one on <a href="https://wayfinding.collectiveworld.com/authors/sri-ganesh-santhiram/">Data as guiding light for brands</a></p><p><a href="https://www.joinclubhouse.com/">Clubhouse</a></p><p><a href="https://sparkar.facebook.com/ar-studio/">Spark AR </a></p><p><a href="https://www.marketingterms.com/dictionary/cpm/">CPM</a></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/ch-en/title/81254224">The Social Dilemma</a> on Netflix</p><p><a href="https://www.victorinox.com/ch/en">Victorinox</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/massimobottura/?hl=en">Chef Massimo Bottura</a> on Instagram</p><p><a href="https://www.cartier.com/">The Cartier website </a></p><p><a href="https://www.theakin.com/">The Akin</a></p><p><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/289515/fierce-conversations-revised-and-updated-by-susan-scott/">Fierce Conversations</a> book by Susan Scott </p><p><a href="https://whothebook.com/">The Who,</a> the A Method for hiring </p><p><a href="https://eu.patagonia.com/ch/en/home/">Patagonia </a></p><p><a href="https://www.mrporter.com/en-ch/">Mr Porter</a></p><p><a href="https://www.rapha.cc/us/en_US/">Rapha</a></p><p>Oasis <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hzrDeceEKc">'Wonderwall'</a></p><p><a href="https://www.manutd.com/">Manchester United football team</a></p><p><a href="https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/teams/mens-team">Brighton & Hove Albion Football team</a></p><p><a href="https://www.premierleague.com/">Premiere League</a></p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18077903-creativity-inc">Creativity Inc</a> the book</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patagonia">Patagonia</a>, Argentina</p><p><a href="https://www.garyvaynerchuk.com/">Gary Vaynerchuck</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and  also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p> </p><p><br /> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, Anne Muhlethaler speaks to Sri Ganesh Santhiram, a digital marketing and e-commerce leader with a passion for putting customer experience and message first.  </p><p>Ganesh shares his journey from being a football-loving kid growing up in Brighton to his MBA in Malaysia and how being at the forefront of data and insights offered him a way into digital and e-commerce. As someone focused on creating data-driven, consumer-centric strategies to drive digital growth, he goes over the challenges and opportunities for brands around digital transformation. Anne and Ganesh also discuss what they see as some of the roadblocks that hinder digital success for most businesses: from the roles people play in organisations, misalignment, a lack of empathy towards the client, poor creative messaging or lack of understanding of the digital environment at the leadership level. They also exchange and celebrate the brands and creatives that are able to translate or transcend the retail store experience  to offer immersive online experiences. </p><p>The two end on Ganesh's sporting passions,  how football taught him to focus on a team's common goal and his steps towards mindful mornings. A bright and insightful conversation.</p><p>***</p><p>Show notes: </p><p>You can find <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sgsanthiram/">Ganesh on LinkedIn </a></p><p><a href="https://cricut.com/en_wo?">Cricut</a></p><p><a href="https://www.luxurysociety.com/en/articles/2020/04/how-can-luxury-brands-their-e-commerce-game-post-covid19">Article by Ganesh for Luxury Society </a></p><p>And this one on <a href="https://wayfinding.collectiveworld.com/authors/sri-ganesh-santhiram/">Data as guiding light for brands</a></p><p><a href="https://www.joinclubhouse.com/">Clubhouse</a></p><p><a href="https://sparkar.facebook.com/ar-studio/">Spark AR </a></p><p><a href="https://www.marketingterms.com/dictionary/cpm/">CPM</a></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/ch-en/title/81254224">The Social Dilemma</a> on Netflix</p><p><a href="https://www.victorinox.com/ch/en">Victorinox</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/massimobottura/?hl=en">Chef Massimo Bottura</a> on Instagram</p><p><a href="https://www.cartier.com/">The Cartier website </a></p><p><a href="https://www.theakin.com/">The Akin</a></p><p><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/289515/fierce-conversations-revised-and-updated-by-susan-scott/">Fierce Conversations</a> book by Susan Scott </p><p><a href="https://whothebook.com/">The Who,</a> the A Method for hiring </p><p><a href="https://eu.patagonia.com/ch/en/home/">Patagonia </a></p><p><a href="https://www.mrporter.com/en-ch/">Mr Porter</a></p><p><a href="https://www.rapha.cc/us/en_US/">Rapha</a></p><p>Oasis <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hzrDeceEKc">'Wonderwall'</a></p><p><a href="https://www.manutd.com/">Manchester United football team</a></p><p><a href="https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/teams/mens-team">Brighton & Hove Albion Football team</a></p><p><a href="https://www.premierleague.com/">Premiere League</a></p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18077903-creativity-inc">Creativity Inc</a> the book</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patagonia">Patagonia</a>, Argentina</p><p><a href="https://www.garyvaynerchuk.com/">Gary Vaynerchuck</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and  also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p> </p><p><br /> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>It's often said that breath is the language of the nervous system. </p><p>Short enough to fit in at any time, this Mindfulness of Breath guided meditation  starts off with setting an intention for practice before turning to explore the sensations of the breath, as a gateway to becoming more intimate with ourselves in the present moment. </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find the podacst and  also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>It's often said that breath is the language of the nervous system. </p><p>Short enough to fit in at any time, this Mindfulness of Breath guided meditation  starts off with setting an intention for practice before turning to explore the sensations of the breath, as a gateway to becoming more intimate with ourselves in the present moment. </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find the podacst and  also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Dr Andrea Wojnicki on skilled communication, word of mouth, and the importance of personal brand</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler is joined by Dr Andrea Wojnicki, founder and chief talker of <a href="https://talkabouttalk.com/">'Talk About Talk',</a> an online platform as well as a<a href="https://talkabouttalk.com/podcasts/"> podcast</a>. </p><p>From early experiences in brand marketing at Kraft Foods, Andrea, a self-confessed life-long learner talks about how she got into academia and earned herself a Doctorate of Business Administration (Marketing) from Harvard Business School, where she focused her research on consumer psychology and the fascinating subject of 'word of mouth'.  Since then, she has been keenly exploring why people talk.</p><p>Over the course of the conversation, Andrea shares a lot of practical advice on interpersonal communications, and touches on how she supports business professionals and executives in becoming more skillful with their communication, which in turns supports their personal growth and career. We explore some of her favorite subjects, including personal branding, archetypes, and the three superpowers we all want to develop in our communication skills. </p><p>Andrea is also a talented painter, so we veer off to discussing the importance of creative outlets and how she gets into a state of flow, sometimes even on Zoom.  It was a joy to record this episode, so we hope you will find as much enjoyment in listening to it. </p><p>***</p><p>Show notes: </p><p>You can find Andrea at <a href="https://talkabouttalk.com/">TalkAboutTalk.com</a></p><p>Follow her <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/talkabouttalk/">on Linkedin</a></p><p>On Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/talkingabouttalk/">@talkingabouttalk</a> and on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/dr_woj?lang=en">@dr_woj</a></p><p><a href="https://talkabouttalk.com/#newsletter-signup">Sign up to the Talk About Talk </a>newsletter to get the FREE course '5 email hacks'</p><p><a href="https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/item.aspx?num=28096">Martha Stewart Case from HBS</a></p><p><a href="https://hbsp.harvard.edu/product/501017-PDF-ENG">The Pokemon Go HBS business case </a></p><p><a href="https://www.taramohr.com/">Coach Tara Mohr and her book 'Playing Big'</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/amy_cuddy_your_body_language_may_shape_who_you_are?language=en">Amy Cuddy's Ted Talk</a> on how languages shapes who we are</p><p><a href="https://akimbo.com/thepodcastingworkshop">Akimbo's Podcast Workshop</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Zaltman">Professor Jerry Zaltman </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Zaltman#Zaltman_Metaphor_Elicitation_Technique"><i>The Zaltman Metaphor Elicitation technique </i></a></p><p><a href="https://talkabouttalk.com/archetype-blog/">Archetypes</a></p><p><a href="https://altmba.com/">The altMBA</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome">The Tall Poppy Syndrome </a></p><p>Andrea's teacher, <a href="https://www.bu.edu/questrom/profile/susan-fournier/">Susan Fournier </a></p><p><a href="https://kk.org/thetechnium/1000-true-fans/">1000 True Fans,</a> an essay by Kevin Kelly </p><p><a href="https://artandreawojnicki.com/seascapes-nature-3/">Andrea's Painting website </a></p><p><a href="https://obamabook.com/">A Promised Land, by Barack Obama</a></p><p><a href="https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/katharine-graham">'Personal History, by Kathrine Graham</a> - Pulitzer Prize winner 1998 (autobiography) </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and  also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Out of the Clouds, host Anne Muhlethaler is joined by Dr Andrea Wojnicki, founder and chief talker of <a href="https://talkabouttalk.com/">'Talk About Talk',</a> an online platform as well as a<a href="https://talkabouttalk.com/podcasts/"> podcast</a>. </p><p>From early experiences in brand marketing at Kraft Foods, Andrea, a self-confessed life-long learner talks about how she got into academia and earned herself a Doctorate of Business Administration (Marketing) from Harvard Business School, where she focused her research on consumer psychology and the fascinating subject of 'word of mouth'.  Since then, she has been keenly exploring why people talk.</p><p>Over the course of the conversation, Andrea shares a lot of practical advice on interpersonal communications, and touches on how she supports business professionals and executives in becoming more skillful with their communication, which in turns supports their personal growth and career. We explore some of her favorite subjects, including personal branding, archetypes, and the three superpowers we all want to develop in our communication skills. </p><p>Andrea is also a talented painter, so we veer off to discussing the importance of creative outlets and how she gets into a state of flow, sometimes even on Zoom.  It was a joy to record this episode, so we hope you will find as much enjoyment in listening to it. </p><p>***</p><p>Show notes: </p><p>You can find Andrea at <a href="https://talkabouttalk.com/">TalkAboutTalk.com</a></p><p>Follow her <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/talkabouttalk/">on Linkedin</a></p><p>On Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/talkingabouttalk/">@talkingabouttalk</a> and on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/dr_woj?lang=en">@dr_woj</a></p><p><a href="https://talkabouttalk.com/#newsletter-signup">Sign up to the Talk About Talk </a>newsletter to get the FREE course '5 email hacks'</p><p><a href="https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/item.aspx?num=28096">Martha Stewart Case from HBS</a></p><p><a href="https://hbsp.harvard.edu/product/501017-PDF-ENG">The Pokemon Go HBS business case </a></p><p><a href="https://www.taramohr.com/">Coach Tara Mohr and her book 'Playing Big'</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/amy_cuddy_your_body_language_may_shape_who_you_are?language=en">Amy Cuddy's Ted Talk</a> on how languages shapes who we are</p><p><a href="https://akimbo.com/thepodcastingworkshop">Akimbo's Podcast Workshop</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Zaltman">Professor Jerry Zaltman </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Zaltman#Zaltman_Metaphor_Elicitation_Technique"><i>The Zaltman Metaphor Elicitation technique </i></a></p><p><a href="https://talkabouttalk.com/archetype-blog/">Archetypes</a></p><p><a href="https://altmba.com/">The altMBA</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome">The Tall Poppy Syndrome </a></p><p>Andrea's teacher, <a href="https://www.bu.edu/questrom/profile/susan-fournier/">Susan Fournier </a></p><p><a href="https://kk.org/thetechnium/1000-true-fans/">1000 True Fans,</a> an essay by Kevin Kelly </p><p><a href="https://artandreawojnicki.com/seascapes-nature-3/">Andrea's Painting website </a></p><p><a href="https://obamabook.com/">A Promised Land, by Barack Obama</a></p><p><a href="https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/katharine-graham">'Personal History, by Kathrine Graham</a> - Pulitzer Prize winner 1998 (autobiography) </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and  also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, the guest of Out of the Clouds is Hanna Fiedler (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/hanna.fiedler/">@hanna.fiedler</a>): the creative force behind her eponymous London-based womenswear brand, an up-and-comer in the fashion industry, whos is launching her fourth collection this Spring. </p><p>Hanna, originally from Bavaria, Germany, started her journey in fashion by learning to sew with her mother, then interning at 16 in the Thalia Theater in Hamburg where she fell in love with the art of tailoring and costume design. This led her to a three-year apprenticeship in tailoring at the Berlin Opera House, before taking her to the London College of Fashion where she honed her craft in pattern cutting. </p><p>In this conversation, Hanna shares her love of building timeless pieces with character to enhance the wearer's visual personality, as well as why she loves to explore hidden volume, sustainable materials and practices, and why wants to see more transparency in the fashion industry in the future. </p><p>Her passion for food and the inspiration she gets from sushi chefs were an exquisite surprise, informing the manly Japanese names of pieces in her new collection like Endo Trousers.  A joyful, thoughtful and touching conversation with a young entrepreneur with bright vision. Enjoy!</p><p>***</p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>You can find Hanna on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/hanna.fiedler/">@hanna.fiedler</a></p><p><a href="https://www.hannafiedler.com/">at HannaFielder.com</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnOuNYXFM3D3kWV-qsrpNqg">On Youtube </a></p><p><a href="https://www.thalia-theater.de/">https://www.thalia-theater.de/</a></p><p>The <a href="https://www.staatsoper-berlin.de/en/">Berlin Opera House</a></p><p><a href="https://www.arts.ac.uk/colleges/london-college-of-fashion">London College of Fashion </a></p><p><a href="https://www.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/listings/2014/charles-james-beyond-fashion">The Charles James exhibition</a> at the Metropolitan Museum</p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/th-en/title/70181716">Jiro Dreams of Sushi</a></p><p><a href="https://www.endoatrotunda.com/endo-kazutoshi/">Endo, the sushi-chef</a></p><p><a href="https://www.hannafiedler.com/products/leo?_pos=1&_sid=f6ac847ad&_ss=r">The Leo Top</a> from Hanna's collection </p><p>The original silk weave technique Hanna learned at the Berlin Opera House <a href="http://ballett-journal.de/staatsballett-berlin-romeo-und-julia-john-cranko-polina-semionova-alejandro-virelles/">(in white here)</a></p><p><a href="https://www.lukasgraham.com/">Lukas Graham</a> and the song <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN44xpHjNxE">'When you love someone'</a></p><p><a href="https://hannahgadsby.com.au/">Comedian Hannah Gadsby</a></p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1815216.Dior_by_Dior">Christian Dior's autobiography</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and  also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, the guest of Out of the Clouds is Hanna Fiedler (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/hanna.fiedler/">@hanna.fiedler</a>): the creative force behind her eponymous London-based womenswear brand, an up-and-comer in the fashion industry, whos is launching her fourth collection this Spring. </p><p>Hanna, originally from Bavaria, Germany, started her journey in fashion by learning to sew with her mother, then interning at 16 in the Thalia Theater in Hamburg where she fell in love with the art of tailoring and costume design. This led her to a three-year apprenticeship in tailoring at the Berlin Opera House, before taking her to the London College of Fashion where she honed her craft in pattern cutting. </p><p>In this conversation, Hanna shares her love of building timeless pieces with character to enhance the wearer's visual personality, as well as why she loves to explore hidden volume, sustainable materials and practices, and why wants to see more transparency in the fashion industry in the future. </p><p>Her passion for food and the inspiration she gets from sushi chefs were an exquisite surprise, informing the manly Japanese names of pieces in her new collection like Endo Trousers.  A joyful, thoughtful and touching conversation with a young entrepreneur with bright vision. Enjoy!</p><p>***</p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>You can find Hanna on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/hanna.fiedler/">@hanna.fiedler</a></p><p><a href="https://www.hannafiedler.com/">at HannaFielder.com</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnOuNYXFM3D3kWV-qsrpNqg">On Youtube </a></p><p><a href="https://www.thalia-theater.de/">https://www.thalia-theater.de/</a></p><p>The <a href="https://www.staatsoper-berlin.de/en/">Berlin Opera House</a></p><p><a href="https://www.arts.ac.uk/colleges/london-college-of-fashion">London College of Fashion </a></p><p><a href="https://www.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/listings/2014/charles-james-beyond-fashion">The Charles James exhibition</a> at the Metropolitan Museum</p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/th-en/title/70181716">Jiro Dreams of Sushi</a></p><p><a href="https://www.endoatrotunda.com/endo-kazutoshi/">Endo, the sushi-chef</a></p><p><a href="https://www.hannafiedler.com/products/leo?_pos=1&_sid=f6ac847ad&_ss=r">The Leo Top</a> from Hanna's collection </p><p>The original silk weave technique Hanna learned at the Berlin Opera House <a href="http://ballett-journal.de/staatsballett-berlin-romeo-und-julia-john-cranko-polina-semionova-alejandro-virelles/">(in white here)</a></p><p><a href="https://www.lukasgraham.com/">Lukas Graham</a> and the song <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN44xpHjNxE">'When you love someone'</a></p><p><a href="https://hannahgadsby.com.au/">Comedian Hannah Gadsby</a></p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1815216.Dior_by_Dior">Christian Dior's autobiography</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and  also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>This week, host of Out of the Clouds Anne Muhlethaler is joined by journalist, media trainer and ex-broadcaster Martin Popplewell (<a href="https://twitter.com/Martinpops">@Martinpops</a>). </p><p>Anne had the occasion to work with Martin on a couple of projects, which landed her in the green room of the BBC Morning News a few years ago. However little did she know of his (very) early career in TV which landed him on a deserted island, on purpose it should be noted, and not on any show you may have heard of. </p><p>They talk about his passion for journalism and politics, his experience of grilling PM  David Cameron on gay rights and the state of the (mainstream) media today. Martin also is an experienced and savvy media trainer, he talks about why it's completely normal to have nerves before going live on TV and yes, we (civilians) should all get media trained if we are to engage with the mainstream media as it's often referred to today. </p><p>A wide ranging, profound and fun conversation. Enjoy! </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>Show notes: </p><p>You can find Martin <a href="https://twitter.com/Martinpops">on Twitter</a>  and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/martinpopplewell/">on LinkedIn</a></p><p>His consultancy website is <a href="https://coconutcommunications.tv/">CoconutCommunications.tv</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blue_Lagoon_(1980_film)">The Blue Lagoon </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robinson_Crusoe">Robinson Crusoe </a></p><p><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/">BBC</a></p><p><a href="https://www.channel4.com">https://www.channel4.com</a>/</p><p><a href="https://www.channel5.com">https://www.channel5.com</a>/</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronesia">Micronesia</a></p><p>The Kingdom of<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonga"> Tonga</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiji">Fiji </a></p><p>Martin's documentary <a href="https://www.martinpopplewell.com/the-real-castaway/">'The Real Castaway'</a></p><p>The mainstream tv show <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castaway_2000">Castaway</a></p><p>TV series <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shipwrecked_(TV_series)">Shipwrecked </a></p><p><a href="https://www.ucl.ac.uk/">UCL</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Duncan">Alan Duncan MP</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Gephardt">Congressman Dick Gephardt</a></p><p>The 1992 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_1992_presidential_campaign">Clinton Presidential Campaign</a></p><p>Martin's interview with <a href="https://www.martinpopplewell.com/political-journalist/">David Cameron interview </a>and its coverage</p><p><a href="https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/">Gay Times</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/gloria_steinem_to_future_generations_of_women_you_are_the_roots_of_change">Gloria Steinhem</a> at TedWomen2020</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Terry">Todd Terry</a>  and the song <a href="https://youtu.be/08iGSxMieVU">'Something going on in my soul'</a></p><p>Writer <a href="https://www.thetimes.co.uk/profile/matthew-parris?page=1">Matthew Parris</a></p><p>The book <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21206608-tricks-journalists-play">'Tricks Journalists Play'</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and  also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>This week, host of Out of the Clouds Anne Muhlethaler is joined by journalist, media trainer and ex-broadcaster Martin Popplewell (<a href="https://twitter.com/Martinpops">@Martinpops</a>). </p><p>Anne had the occasion to work with Martin on a couple of projects, which landed her in the green room of the BBC Morning News a few years ago. However little did she know of his (very) early career in TV which landed him on a deserted island, on purpose it should be noted, and not on any show you may have heard of. </p><p>They talk about his passion for journalism and politics, his experience of grilling PM  David Cameron on gay rights and the state of the (mainstream) media today. Martin also is an experienced and savvy media trainer, he talks about why it's completely normal to have nerves before going live on TV and yes, we (civilians) should all get media trained if we are to engage with the mainstream media as it's often referred to today. </p><p>A wide ranging, profound and fun conversation. Enjoy! </p><p> </p><p>***</p><p>Show notes: </p><p>You can find Martin <a href="https://twitter.com/Martinpops">on Twitter</a>  and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/martinpopplewell/">on LinkedIn</a></p><p>His consultancy website is <a href="https://coconutcommunications.tv/">CoconutCommunications.tv</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blue_Lagoon_(1980_film)">The Blue Lagoon </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robinson_Crusoe">Robinson Crusoe </a></p><p><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/">BBC</a></p><p><a href="https://www.channel4.com">https://www.channel4.com</a>/</p><p><a href="https://www.channel5.com">https://www.channel5.com</a>/</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronesia">Micronesia</a></p><p>The Kingdom of<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonga"> Tonga</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiji">Fiji </a></p><p>Martin's documentary <a href="https://www.martinpopplewell.com/the-real-castaway/">'The Real Castaway'</a></p><p>The mainstream tv show <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castaway_2000">Castaway</a></p><p>TV series <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shipwrecked_(TV_series)">Shipwrecked </a></p><p><a href="https://www.ucl.ac.uk/">UCL</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Duncan">Alan Duncan MP</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Gephardt">Congressman Dick Gephardt</a></p><p>The 1992 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_1992_presidential_campaign">Clinton Presidential Campaign</a></p><p>Martin's interview with <a href="https://www.martinpopplewell.com/political-journalist/">David Cameron interview </a>and its coverage</p><p><a href="https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/">Gay Times</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/gloria_steinem_to_future_generations_of_women_you_are_the_roots_of_change">Gloria Steinhem</a> at TedWomen2020</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Terry">Todd Terry</a>  and the song <a href="https://youtu.be/08iGSxMieVU">'Something going on in my soul'</a></p><p>Writer <a href="https://www.thetimes.co.uk/profile/matthew-parris?page=1">Matthew Parris</a></p><p>The book <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21206608-tricks-journalists-play">'Tricks Journalists Play'</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, it helps people find us and  also helps to secure future guests. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Lama  Hourani on emotional geography, the importance building bridges and becoming a cultural entrepreneur</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Lama Hourani (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/lamahourani/">@lamahourani</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lamahouranijewelry/">@lamahouranijewelry</a>) is a Jordanian jewelry designer who grew up in the country's capital, Amman, with artistically-minded entrepreneurial parents who founded private art gallery Foresight 32, when she was a just girl. </p><p>When a silversmith jeweler came asking for work at the gallery, during the Iraq war, her mother took him in and they turned their small gallery kitchen into a workshop and that is how Lama found her passion. Lama launched her line of silver jewelry in 2000. An artist and designer, Lama talks about her creative process, her studies and friendship with previous guest of the show Paolo Ferrarini, who taught her a class which marked her, about "emotional geography". </p><p>She talks candidly about her challenges gaining an international reputation as a Jordanian brand and how important it is for her that young Arab men and women are able to see successful brands, like hers from the Middle East, making it big internationally. Named a Young Global Leader at the World Economic Forum for her commitment in supporting women in Jordan since the early days of her company, Lama offers her views on building bridges between people and cultures and creating universal languages through her designs. </p><p>The mother of gorgeous twins, Matteo and Dalila, aka Lamoncitos, offers generous insights into her journey in cultural entrepreneurship and, well, the difficulties of juggling growing an independent brand with the demands of motherhood. A beautiful conversation which hopefully will inspire another generation of talented, bright and socially impactful creatives. Enjoy!</p><p> </p><p>Links: </p><p><a href="https://www.lamahourani.com/">https://www.lamahourani.com/</a></p><p>on Instagram :</p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/lamahourani/">https://www.instagram.com/lamahourani/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/lamahouranijewelry/">https://www.instagram.com/lamahouranijewelry/</a></p><p>on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/LamaHourani">@LamaHourani</a></p><p>on Facebook <a href="https://www.facebook.com/LAMAHOURANIJewelry">LamaHourani</a></p><p><a href="http://www.foresightartgallery.com/">Foresight Art Gallery</a></p><p><a href="http://paoloferrarini.it/">Paolo Ferrarini</a></p><p><a href="https://www.istitutomarangoni.com/en">Marangoni Institute</a></p><p><a href="https://coolhunting.com/style/lama-hourani-je/">Cool Hunting</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g308272-d17477492-Reviews-Columbia_Circle-Shanghai.html">Columbia Circle Shanghai</a></p><p><a href="https://www.mltr.fr/en/">Molitor Hotel Paris</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduardo_Chillida">Eduardo Chillida</a></p><p><a href="https://www.lamahourani.com/63-chillida-collection">Lama Hourani Chillida Collection</a></p><p><a href="https://www.lamahourani.com/51-evolution-of-rock-collection">The Evolution of Rock</a></p><p><a href="https://www.weforum.org/">World Economic Forum </a></p><p><a href="https://www.markpollock.com/about/">Mark Pollock</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/maickelmelamed/?hl=en">Maickel Melamed</a></p><p>Lama's reads: </p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Behave-Biology-Humans-Best-Worst/dp/0143110918/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1IDI4X9BCITXH&dchild=1&keywords=behave+robert+sapolsky&qid=1605968763&s=books&sprefix=behave%2Caps%2C626&sr=1-1">Behave</a> by Robert Sapolsky</p><p>The Essential <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Essential-Rumi-New-Expanded/dp/0062509594/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Rumi&qid=1605968823&s=books&sr=1-1">Rumi</a></p><p>Cleo Wade's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Heart-Talk-Poetic-Wisdom-Better/dp/1501177346/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=POETIC+WISDOM+FOR+A+BETTER+HEART&qid=1605968864&s=books&sr=1-1">Heart Talk</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, because it helps people find the podcast & with hard-to-get future guests as well. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Lama Hourani (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/lamahourani/">@lamahourani</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lamahouranijewelry/">@lamahouranijewelry</a>) is a Jordanian jewelry designer who grew up in the country's capital, Amman, with artistically-minded entrepreneurial parents who founded private art gallery Foresight 32, when she was a just girl. </p><p>When a silversmith jeweler came asking for work at the gallery, during the Iraq war, her mother took him in and they turned their small gallery kitchen into a workshop and that is how Lama found her passion. Lama launched her line of silver jewelry in 2000. An artist and designer, Lama talks about her creative process, her studies and friendship with previous guest of the show Paolo Ferrarini, who taught her a class which marked her, about "emotional geography". </p><p>She talks candidly about her challenges gaining an international reputation as a Jordanian brand and how important it is for her that young Arab men and women are able to see successful brands, like hers from the Middle East, making it big internationally. Named a Young Global Leader at the World Economic Forum for her commitment in supporting women in Jordan since the early days of her company, Lama offers her views on building bridges between people and cultures and creating universal languages through her designs. </p><p>The mother of gorgeous twins, Matteo and Dalila, aka Lamoncitos, offers generous insights into her journey in cultural entrepreneurship and, well, the difficulties of juggling growing an independent brand with the demands of motherhood. A beautiful conversation which hopefully will inspire another generation of talented, bright and socially impactful creatives. Enjoy!</p><p> </p><p>Links: </p><p><a href="https://www.lamahourani.com/">https://www.lamahourani.com/</a></p><p>on Instagram :</p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/lamahourani/">https://www.instagram.com/lamahourani/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/lamahouranijewelry/">https://www.instagram.com/lamahouranijewelry/</a></p><p>on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/LamaHourani">@LamaHourani</a></p><p>on Facebook <a href="https://www.facebook.com/LAMAHOURANIJewelry">LamaHourani</a></p><p><a href="http://www.foresightartgallery.com/">Foresight Art Gallery</a></p><p><a href="http://paoloferrarini.it/">Paolo Ferrarini</a></p><p><a href="https://www.istitutomarangoni.com/en">Marangoni Institute</a></p><p><a href="https://coolhunting.com/style/lama-hourani-je/">Cool Hunting</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g308272-d17477492-Reviews-Columbia_Circle-Shanghai.html">Columbia Circle Shanghai</a></p><p><a href="https://www.mltr.fr/en/">Molitor Hotel Paris</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduardo_Chillida">Eduardo Chillida</a></p><p><a href="https://www.lamahourani.com/63-chillida-collection">Lama Hourani Chillida Collection</a></p><p><a href="https://www.lamahourani.com/51-evolution-of-rock-collection">The Evolution of Rock</a></p><p><a href="https://www.weforum.org/">World Economic Forum </a></p><p><a href="https://www.markpollock.com/about/">Mark Pollock</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/maickelmelamed/?hl=en">Maickel Melamed</a></p><p>Lama's reads: </p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Behave-Biology-Humans-Best-Worst/dp/0143110918/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1IDI4X9BCITXH&dchild=1&keywords=behave+robert+sapolsky&qid=1605968763&s=books&sprefix=behave%2Caps%2C626&sr=1-1">Behave</a> by Robert Sapolsky</p><p>The Essential <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Essential-Rumi-New-Expanded/dp/0062509594/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Rumi&qid=1605968823&s=books&sr=1-1">Rumi</a></p><p>Cleo Wade's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Heart-Talk-Poetic-Wisdom-Better/dp/1501177346/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=POETIC+WISDOM+FOR+A+BETTER+HEART&qid=1605968864&s=books&sr=1-1">Heart Talk</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, because it helps people find the podcast & with hard-to-get future guests as well. Thank you for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_outoftheclouds/">@_outoftheclouds</a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Meditation: Lovingkindness - Kindness as the water of humanity</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Lovingkindness or Metta, is a practice which invites a genuine intention, first directed towards oneself, before turning to others and the whole world, to be healthy, at ease and safe from harm. Far from being a simple wish or a prayer, Metta doesn't change our situations yet it may change how we relate to ourselves and each other over time. </p><p>This meditation awakens  listening presence, first inquiring about state, then offering relaxation and ease through the body, tuning into the heart area, before then moving into breathing in and out, repeating lovingkindness phrases. </p><p>Teacher Ruth King says in her book 'Mindful of Race':</p><p>"Kindness is the water of humanity. Without water, we harden. Kindness is an attitude, an aspiration, and a practice."</p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Lovingkindness or Metta, is a practice which invites a genuine intention, first directed towards oneself, before turning to others and the whole world, to be healthy, at ease and safe from harm. Far from being a simple wish or a prayer, Metta doesn't change our situations yet it may change how we relate to ourselves and each other over time. </p><p>This meditation awakens  listening presence, first inquiring about state, then offering relaxation and ease through the body, tuning into the heart area, before then moving into breathing in and out, repeating lovingkindness phrases. </p><p>Teacher Ruth King says in her book 'Mindful of Race':</p><p>"Kindness is the water of humanity. Without water, we harden. Kindness is an attitude, an aspiration, and a practice."</p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Join host of Out of the Clouds Anne Muhlethaler as she introduces guided meditations to the podcast and her core practice of Metta or LovingKindness meditation. Subscribe now for updates.</p><p> </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and if you are so inclined, rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts! thank you for listening</i></p><p>For notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p>To sign up for live-stream meditation classes  go to <a href="https://calendly.com/out-of-the-clouds/loving-kindness-meditation?month=2020-11">Calendly</a></p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">@annvi </a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Join host of Out of the Clouds Anne Muhlethaler as she introduces guided meditations to the podcast and her core practice of Metta or LovingKindness meditation. Subscribe now for updates.</p><p> </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and if you are so inclined, rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts! thank you for listening</i></p><p>For notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p>To sign up for live-stream meditation classes  go to <a href="https://calendly.com/out-of-the-clouds/loving-kindness-meditation?month=2020-11">Calendly</a></p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">@annvi </a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Paolo Ferrarini on content curation, fashion's opportunity and getting closer to nature]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2020 13:52:48 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>This week, I am joined by my good friend, curator, journalist and teacher Paolo Ferrarini (<a href="https://twitter.com/paolostylops">@paolostyleops</a>). </p><p>Paolo started his career in trend forecasting before becoming a design journalist and teacher at several of Europe's most prestigious schools. He writes for the Cool Hunting and Italian design title Interni as well. We met a few years back in Milan and were lucky to have the opportunity to spend more time together during a couple of press trips (which I organised), back in the days when we could, you know, travel!</p><p>Paolo indulged me first by telling me about his career, which as it turns out I didn't know so much about, his passion for great craftsmanship and photography, including a course in self-portraiture, pre-selfies. </p><p>He offers bold thoughts on the future of fashion and how companies should create content out of love, making authenticity a company strategy, rather than merely a philosophy. </p><p>Paolo, a podcaster himself, tells me about interviewing one of his idols Debbie Millman (the podcast is out this week) for Edit Naples, and his new talk project, the <a href="https://xlextralight.com/human-difference-talks-2020/">Human Difference talks.</a></p><p>We finish on my favorite questions: </p><p>What is your favorite word? <i>"Incantevole" - enchanting in English - like the song by the band Subsonica</i></p><p>What brings you happiness?<i> My family and the people on quick dial in my phone, that's what brings me the most joy. </i></p><p>Enjoy!</p><p><i>***</i></p><p><i>Show Notes:</i></p><p>You can check out all of Paolo's work and projects on his website:  <a href="http://paoloferrarini.it/">http://paoloferrarini.it/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/paolostylops/">On Instagram @paolostyleops </a>and on Twitter : <a href="https://twitter.com/paolostylops">https://twitter.com/paolostylops</a></p><p>And check out his podcast <a href="https://podtail.com/en/podcast/parola-progetto/">Parola Progetto </a></p><p><a href="https://www.internimagazine.com/">Interni Magazine</a></p><p><a href="https://coolhunting.com/">The Cool Hunting</a></p><p><a href="https://www.renatobarilli.it/">Renato Barilli </a></p><p>Francesco Morace & <a href="http://www.futureconceptlab.com/">Future Concept Lab </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elio_Fiorucci">Elio Fiorucci</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pier_Luigi_Nervi">Pier Luigi Nervi</a></p><p><a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courr%C3%A8ges_(entreprise)">Courreges </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvatore_Ferragamo">Salvatorre Ferragamo</a></p><p><a href="https://www.accademiacostumeemoda.it/en/">Academia Costume e Moda</a></p><p><a href="https://www.istitutomarangoni.com/en/">Marangoni Institute </a></p><p><a href="https://www.polimi.it/en/">https://www.polimi.it/en/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.albinigroup.com/en/">Cottonificio Albini </a></p><p><a href="https://www.cristinanunez.com/the-self-portrait-experience1/">Cristina Nunez</a></p><p><a href="https://selfportrait-experience.com/">The Self Portrait Experience</a></p><p>Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/">https://www.instagram.com/</a></p><p><a href="https://medium.com/@ystrickler/dont-be-scared-you-re-not-the-only-one-83d15410c285">The article I quote about limits to growth </a></p><p>Documentary : Margiela in his own words <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/13/movies/martin-margiela-in-his-own-words-review.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/13/movies/martin-margiela-in-his-own-words-review.html</a></p><p>Fear of God : <a href="https://fearofgod.com/">https://fearofgod.com/</a></p><p>Pyer Moss <a href="https://pyermoss.com/">https://pyermoss.com/</a></p><p>Virgil Abloh <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgil_Abloh">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgil_Abloh</a></p><p><a href="http://www.leebroom.com/">Lee Broom </a></p><p><a href="https://hay.dk/en">Hay</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.breradesigndays.it/2020/">Brera Design Days </a></p><p><a href="https://www.salonemilano.it/en/">Milan Design Week </a></p><p><a href="https://base.milano.it/">Base Milano</a></p><p><a href="https://www.debbiemillman.com/">Debbie Millman</a></p><p>Paolo's i<a href="https://coolhunting.com/design/design-indaba-2020-debbie-millman/">nterview of Debbie</a> for Cool Hunting and his<a href="https://editnapoli.com/podcast"> interview on the new podcast for Edit </a></p><p><a href="http://www.designindaba.com/">Design Indaba</a></p><p><a href="https://editnapoli.com/">Edit Napoli </a></p><p><a href="https://moroso.it/?lang=en">Moroso</a></p><p><a href="https://www.foscarini.com/en/">Foscarini </a></p><p><a href="http://giorgialupi.com/">Giorgia Lupi</a></p><p><a href="https://xlextralight.com/human-difference-talks-2020/">Human Difference talks</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravi_Naidoo">Ravi Naidoo </a></p><p><a href="http://www.karimrashid.com/">Karim Rashid</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Lorenzo">Jerry Lorenzo </a></p><p><a href="https://www.businessoffashion.com/community/people/sara-maino">Sara Sozzani Maino</a></p><p>The song that best represents Paolo: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNowU63PF5E">Sunshine Reggae</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac94WvNmRsM">Incantevole by Subsonica</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and if you are so inclined, rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts! thank you for listening</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">@annvi </a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>This week, I am joined by my good friend, curator, journalist and teacher Paolo Ferrarini (<a href="https://twitter.com/paolostylops">@paolostyleops</a>). </p><p>Paolo started his career in trend forecasting before becoming a design journalist and teacher at several of Europe's most prestigious schools. He writes for the Cool Hunting and Italian design title Interni as well. We met a few years back in Milan and were lucky to have the opportunity to spend more time together during a couple of press trips (which I organised), back in the days when we could, you know, travel!</p><p>Paolo indulged me first by telling me about his career, which as it turns out I didn't know so much about, his passion for great craftsmanship and photography, including a course in self-portraiture, pre-selfies. </p><p>He offers bold thoughts on the future of fashion and how companies should create content out of love, making authenticity a company strategy, rather than merely a philosophy. </p><p>Paolo, a podcaster himself, tells me about interviewing one of his idols Debbie Millman (the podcast is out this week) for Edit Naples, and his new talk project, the <a href="https://xlextralight.com/human-difference-talks-2020/">Human Difference talks.</a></p><p>We finish on my favorite questions: </p><p>What is your favorite word? <i>"Incantevole" - enchanting in English - like the song by the band Subsonica</i></p><p>What brings you happiness?<i> My family and the people on quick dial in my phone, that's what brings me the most joy. </i></p><p>Enjoy!</p><p><i>***</i></p><p><i>Show Notes:</i></p><p>You can check out all of Paolo's work and projects on his website:  <a href="http://paoloferrarini.it/">http://paoloferrarini.it/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/paolostylops/">On Instagram @paolostyleops </a>and on Twitter : <a href="https://twitter.com/paolostylops">https://twitter.com/paolostylops</a></p><p>And check out his podcast <a href="https://podtail.com/en/podcast/parola-progetto/">Parola Progetto </a></p><p><a href="https://www.internimagazine.com/">Interni Magazine</a></p><p><a href="https://coolhunting.com/">The Cool Hunting</a></p><p><a href="https://www.renatobarilli.it/">Renato Barilli </a></p><p>Francesco Morace & <a href="http://www.futureconceptlab.com/">Future Concept Lab </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elio_Fiorucci">Elio Fiorucci</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pier_Luigi_Nervi">Pier Luigi Nervi</a></p><p><a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courr%C3%A8ges_(entreprise)">Courreges </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvatore_Ferragamo">Salvatorre Ferragamo</a></p><p><a href="https://www.accademiacostumeemoda.it/en/">Academia Costume e Moda</a></p><p><a href="https://www.istitutomarangoni.com/en/">Marangoni Institute </a></p><p><a href="https://www.polimi.it/en/">https://www.polimi.it/en/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.albinigroup.com/en/">Cottonificio Albini </a></p><p><a href="https://www.cristinanunez.com/the-self-portrait-experience1/">Cristina Nunez</a></p><p><a href="https://selfportrait-experience.com/">The Self Portrait Experience</a></p><p>Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/">https://www.instagram.com/</a></p><p><a href="https://medium.com/@ystrickler/dont-be-scared-you-re-not-the-only-one-83d15410c285">The article I quote about limits to growth </a></p><p>Documentary : Margiela in his own words <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/13/movies/martin-margiela-in-his-own-words-review.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/13/movies/martin-margiela-in-his-own-words-review.html</a></p><p>Fear of God : <a href="https://fearofgod.com/">https://fearofgod.com/</a></p><p>Pyer Moss <a href="https://pyermoss.com/">https://pyermoss.com/</a></p><p>Virgil Abloh <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgil_Abloh">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgil_Abloh</a></p><p><a href="http://www.leebroom.com/">Lee Broom </a></p><p><a href="https://hay.dk/en">Hay</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.breradesigndays.it/2020/">Brera Design Days </a></p><p><a href="https://www.salonemilano.it/en/">Milan Design Week </a></p><p><a href="https://base.milano.it/">Base Milano</a></p><p><a href="https://www.debbiemillman.com/">Debbie Millman</a></p><p>Paolo's i<a href="https://coolhunting.com/design/design-indaba-2020-debbie-millman/">nterview of Debbie</a> for Cool Hunting and his<a href="https://editnapoli.com/podcast"> interview on the new podcast for Edit </a></p><p><a href="http://www.designindaba.com/">Design Indaba</a></p><p><a href="https://editnapoli.com/">Edit Napoli </a></p><p><a href="https://moroso.it/?lang=en">Moroso</a></p><p><a href="https://www.foscarini.com/en/">Foscarini </a></p><p><a href="http://giorgialupi.com/">Giorgia Lupi</a></p><p><a href="https://xlextralight.com/human-difference-talks-2020/">Human Difference talks</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravi_Naidoo">Ravi Naidoo </a></p><p><a href="http://www.karimrashid.com/">Karim Rashid</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Lorenzo">Jerry Lorenzo </a></p><p><a href="https://www.businessoffashion.com/community/people/sara-maino">Sara Sozzani Maino</a></p><p>The song that best represents Paolo: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNowU63PF5E">Sunshine Reggae</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac94WvNmRsM">Incantevole by Subsonica</a></p><p> </p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and if you are so inclined, rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts! thank you for listening</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">@annvi </a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews Tess Privett (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/lotuspocus_milano/">@lotuspocus_milano</a>): Tess is a yoga teacher, owner of <a href="https://www.lotuspocus.com/">Lotus Pocus studio</a> in the center of Milan, Italy, who Anne encountered virtually while the two were studying how to launch their podcasts with the help of Seth Godin's Akimbo "Podcast Fellowship". </p><p>This marks their first time "meeting" over Zoom, despite the fact they had spent a good couple of months that same spring reading and hearing about each other's projects come to life. Tess and Anne share a deep interest in yoga and meditation.  In this interview, they discuss Tess' experience in the four paths of yoga (helpful for anyone new to the practice), including the path that initially interested her the least, the Bhakti or devotional path. She then offers insights on the practical effects of doing one-pointed yogic meditation, like Japa, which she teaches, and shares a personal story about the joy one can feel while chopping an onion!</p><p>Tess has a deep love of yoga philosophy and she talks about her dharma and how she strives to make the canonical texts practical for everyday, which is the underlying purpose of her podcast, <a href="https://yoggi-yoga-oggi.simplecast.com/">Yoggi</a>(Yoga Oggi = yoga today).</p><p>If you like yoga, and perhaps philosophy, and speak Italian, jump on the link below to discover.  A beautiful, funny and inspiring conversation. Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p>Show notes:</p><p>Tess on<a href="https://www.instagram.com/lotuspocus_milano/"> IG </a>and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/lotuspocus.yoga/">Facebook</a></p><p><a href="https://yoggi-yoga-oggi.simplecast.com/">Yoggi on Simplecast</a></p><p><a href="https://www.lotuspocus.com/">Lotus Pocus Milan</a></p><p><a href="https://podcastclub.link/">The Podcast Fellowship </a></p><p><a href="https://www.sethgodin.com/">Seth Godin</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_Sutras_of_Patanjali">The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita">The Bhagavad Gita</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishvara">Ishvara</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%E1%B9%A3%E1%B9%ADa-devat%C4%81_(Hinduism)">Ishta Devata</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitr%C4%AB">Metta Meditation or Loving Kindness</a></p><p><a href="http://www.edwinbryant.org/">Edwin Bryant</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tarabrach.com/">Tara Brach</a></p><p><a href="https://mmtcp.soundstrue.com/">MMTCP: mindfulness & meditation teacher certification program</a></p><p><a href="https://jackkornfield.com/">Jack Kornfield</a></p><p><a href="https://www.rickhanson.net/">Rick Hanson </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophanes">Xenophanes</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sallykempton.com/">Sally Kempton </a></p><p><a href="http://suzannefaith.com/">Suzanne Faith </a></p><p><a href="https://www.yogapedia.com/2/8458/meditation/silence/yogas-chitta-vritti-nirodha">Chitta vritti nirodha </a></p><p><a href="http://www.worldwisdom.com/public/authors/Swami-Sri-Ramananda-Saraswathi.aspx">Swami Sri Ramananda Saraswati</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and if you are so inclined, rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. </i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">@annvi </a></p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, host Anne Muhlethaler interviews Tess Privett (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/lotuspocus_milano/">@lotuspocus_milano</a>): Tess is a yoga teacher, owner of <a href="https://www.lotuspocus.com/">Lotus Pocus studio</a> in the center of Milan, Italy, who Anne encountered virtually while the two were studying how to launch their podcasts with the help of Seth Godin's Akimbo "Podcast Fellowship". </p><p>This marks their first time "meeting" over Zoom, despite the fact they had spent a good couple of months that same spring reading and hearing about each other's projects come to life. Tess and Anne share a deep interest in yoga and meditation.  In this interview, they discuss Tess' experience in the four paths of yoga (helpful for anyone new to the practice), including the path that initially interested her the least, the Bhakti or devotional path. She then offers insights on the practical effects of doing one-pointed yogic meditation, like Japa, which she teaches, and shares a personal story about the joy one can feel while chopping an onion!</p><p>Tess has a deep love of yoga philosophy and she talks about her dharma and how she strives to make the canonical texts practical for everyday, which is the underlying purpose of her podcast, <a href="https://yoggi-yoga-oggi.simplecast.com/">Yoggi</a>(Yoga Oggi = yoga today).</p><p>If you like yoga, and perhaps philosophy, and speak Italian, jump on the link below to discover.  A beautiful, funny and inspiring conversation. Happy listening!</p><p>***</p><p>Show notes:</p><p>Tess on<a href="https://www.instagram.com/lotuspocus_milano/"> IG </a>and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/lotuspocus.yoga/">Facebook</a></p><p><a href="https://yoggi-yoga-oggi.simplecast.com/">Yoggi on Simplecast</a></p><p><a href="https://www.lotuspocus.com/">Lotus Pocus Milan</a></p><p><a href="https://podcastclub.link/">The Podcast Fellowship </a></p><p><a href="https://www.sethgodin.com/">Seth Godin</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_Sutras_of_Patanjali">The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita">The Bhagavad Gita</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishvara">Ishvara</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%E1%B9%A3%E1%B9%ADa-devat%C4%81_(Hinduism)">Ishta Devata</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitr%C4%AB">Metta Meditation or Loving Kindness</a></p><p><a href="http://www.edwinbryant.org/">Edwin Bryant</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tarabrach.com/">Tara Brach</a></p><p><a href="https://mmtcp.soundstrue.com/">MMTCP: mindfulness & meditation teacher certification program</a></p><p><a href="https://jackkornfield.com/">Jack Kornfield</a></p><p><a href="https://www.rickhanson.net/">Rick Hanson </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophanes">Xenophanes</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sallykempton.com/">Sally Kempton </a></p><p><a href="http://suzannefaith.com/">Suzanne Faith </a></p><p><a href="https://www.yogapedia.com/2/8458/meditation/silence/yogas-chitta-vritti-nirodha">Chitta vritti nirodha </a></p><p><a href="http://www.worldwisdom.com/public/authors/Swami-Sri-Ramananda-Saraswathi.aspx">Swami Sri Ramananda Saraswati</a></p><p>***</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and if you are so inclined, rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. </i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">@annvi </a></p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<description><![CDATA[<p> Lougé Delcy is an artist and entrepreneur,  most commonly known as photographer and influencer under the name Dapper Lou (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/dapperlou/">@dapperlou</a>).  We got to know each other on a couple of trips to the South of Italy, where he had been commissioned to capture effortless men's style in the height of the summer heat. </p><p>In this interview, we discuss his early love for fashion, his street style debut and the close relationship and support he gets from his family, in particular his father, Jean. As the conversation progresses, I indulged in asking him about his fabulous <a href="https://dapperlou.com/laurynhill">shoot with Lauryn Hill</a>, as well as an important trip to Kenya which marked a big transition in his life as an artist, or cultural storyteller. </p><p>Lou shares his passion about documenting the beauty and joy in life, whether in Brooklyn, Cuba or Morocco. A joy to listen to, as much as to discover. Links to his work below. </p><p><a href="http://Dapperlou.com">Dapperlou.com</a></p><p>Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dapperlou/">@Dapperlou</a></p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417326/">Full Frontal Fashion </a></p><p>Dapper Lou's <a href="https://hypebeast.com/2018/8/dapper-lou-interview-hbr-54">interview with Hypebeast Radio</a></p><p><a href="https://hypebeast.com/2017/11/dapper-lou-armani-exchange-connected-hybrid-smartwatch-video">The campaign for Armani Exchange referenced red painted model</a></p><p><a href="https://www.dapperstudios.co/louboutin">Dapper Lou and studio 2nd campaign for Christian Louboutin  </a></p><p>Lou's shoot with Lauryn Hill</p><p><a href="https://www.theafricacenter.org/one-on-one-with-dapper-lou/">Lou's interview with The Africa Center</a> (see quote above)</p><p><a href="https://dapperlou.com/maasai">Lou's Kenya Work </a></p><p>The charity <a href="https://giantsofafrica.org/about/">Giants of Africa  </a>and <a href="https://giantsofafrica.org/masai-ujiri-2/">founder Masai Ujiri </a></p><p><a href="https://sautikuufoundation.org/en/project-overview/">The Sautiku foundation  by Dr Ama Obama</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thefolklore.com/blogs/editorial/our-folklore-travel-photographer-dapper-lou" target="_blank">Lou's interview with the Folkore on his transition from street style to cultural storytelling</a></p><p><a href="https://www.dapperstudios.co/studio">https://www.dapperstudios.co/studio</a></p><p><a href="https://menofchange.si.edu">The Smythsonian Exhibition "Men of Change" </a> and the exhibition's <a href="https://menofchange.si.edu/venues/">touring schedule</a></p><p><a href="https://www.photo-schweiz.ch">The Photo Schweiz Exhibition </a></p><p>Lou's first <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CEBEhKnAr4B/?igshid=1lehn4vpihccg">mural project in Brooklyn  now  live</a></p><p>and of course, you can find Dapper Lou's prints <a href="https://dapperlou.com/prints">on his website </a></p><p> </p><p>Thank you to <a href="https://www.instagram.com/datalogsound/">Conor Heffernan</a> for the music, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/brianponto/">Brian Ponto f</a>or artwork and Joel North for sound editing. </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and if you are so inclined, rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. </i></p><p>For show notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter and more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">@annvi </a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p> Lougé Delcy is an artist and entrepreneur,  most commonly known as photographer and influencer under the name Dapper Lou (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/dapperlou/">@dapperlou</a>).  We got to know each other on a couple of trips to the South of Italy, where he had been commissioned to capture effortless men's style in the height of the summer heat. </p><p>In this interview, we discuss his early love for fashion, his street style debut and the close relationship and support he gets from his family, in particular his father, Jean. As the conversation progresses, I indulged in asking him about his fabulous <a href="https://dapperlou.com/laurynhill">shoot with Lauryn Hill</a>, as well as an important trip to Kenya which marked a big transition in his life as an artist, or cultural storyteller. </p><p>Lou shares his passion about documenting the beauty and joy in life, whether in Brooklyn, Cuba or Morocco. A joy to listen to, as much as to discover. Links to his work below. </p><p><a href="http://Dapperlou.com">Dapperlou.com</a></p><p>Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dapperlou/">@Dapperlou</a></p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417326/">Full Frontal Fashion </a></p><p>Dapper Lou's <a href="https://hypebeast.com/2018/8/dapper-lou-interview-hbr-54">interview with Hypebeast Radio</a></p><p><a href="https://hypebeast.com/2017/11/dapper-lou-armani-exchange-connected-hybrid-smartwatch-video">The campaign for Armani Exchange referenced red painted model</a></p><p><a href="https://www.dapperstudios.co/louboutin">Dapper Lou and studio 2nd campaign for Christian Louboutin  </a></p><p>Lou's shoot with Lauryn Hill</p><p><a href="https://www.theafricacenter.org/one-on-one-with-dapper-lou/">Lou's interview with The Africa Center</a> (see quote above)</p><p><a href="https://dapperlou.com/maasai">Lou's Kenya Work </a></p><p>The charity <a href="https://giantsofafrica.org/about/">Giants of Africa  </a>and <a href="https://giantsofafrica.org/masai-ujiri-2/">founder Masai Ujiri </a></p><p><a href="https://sautikuufoundation.org/en/project-overview/">The Sautiku foundation  by Dr Ama Obama</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thefolklore.com/blogs/editorial/our-folklore-travel-photographer-dapper-lou" target="_blank">Lou's interview with the Folkore on his transition from street style to cultural storytelling</a></p><p><a href="https://www.dapperstudios.co/studio">https://www.dapperstudios.co/studio</a></p><p><a href="https://menofchange.si.edu">The Smythsonian Exhibition "Men of Change" </a> and the exhibition's <a href="https://menofchange.si.edu/venues/">touring schedule</a></p><p><a href="https://www.photo-schweiz.ch">The Photo Schweiz Exhibition </a></p><p>Lou's first <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CEBEhKnAr4B/?igshid=1lehn4vpihccg">mural project in Brooklyn  now  live</a></p><p>and of course, you can find Dapper Lou's prints <a href="https://dapperlou.com/prints">on his website </a></p><p> </p><p>Thank you to <a href="https://www.instagram.com/datalogsound/">Conor Heffernan</a> for the music, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/brianponto/">Brian Ponto f</a>or artwork and Joel North for sound editing. </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and if you are so inclined, rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. </i></p><p>For show notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter and more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">@annvi </a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Clementine Desseaux on body positivity, femininity and being Indiana Jones</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, my friend Clementine Desseaux (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/bonjourclem/">@bonjourclem</a>), model, activist, TedEx speaker and CEO of the All Womxn Project shares stories ranging from her beginnings: with a start in business school, to a break through TV add as a plus-size model in France; her first "big" casting with American Apparel, and the trajectory that got her to start her charity, with the aim to offer young women limitless horizons.</p><p>Clem also explains to me how she has become her childhood idol, Indiana Jones, adding a thoughtful reflection on what it means to get the gold. She talks through her thoughts of fashion and beauty, and how things have moved on for plus size models. We end on her views about femininity and gelato: an indeed wide ranging and entertaining conversation with a bold and bright entrepreneur. </p><p>Clementine <a href="https://www.instagram.com/bonjourclem/">on Instagram </a></p><p><a href="https://linktr.ee/theallwomxnproject">The All Womxn Project </a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/BCkbpBJMaYc/?utm_source=ig_embed">Her Marie France Mag Cover </a></p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/A37VYd7jj0s">The TV ad </a>that launched Clem's career in France with Castaluna </p><p><a href="https://www.ma-grande-taille.com/mode/femme/photos-de-clementine-desseaux-pour-american-apparel-bodysuits-50351">Clem in the American Apparel campaign</a></p><p><a href="https://onbeing.org/programs/elizabeth-gilbert-choosing-curiosity-over-fear-may2018/">Elizabeth Gilbert on curiosity over fear</a>, interview by Krista Tippet for On Being Podcast </p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/07/fashion/plus-size-models-beauty.html">The New York Times Article</a> on beauty and body diversity</p><p><a href="https://www.thecut.com/2016/03/clementine-desseaux-louboutin-interview.html">The Cut interview </a></p><p>The painter <a href="http://www.jeromelagarrigue.com/">Jerome Lagarrigue </a></p><p><a href="https://www.self.com/story/this-stunning-campaign-shows-models-in-all-their-unretouched-glory">The Campaign </a>we talk about </p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/_FeRvFgWPa/">Clem's video</a> for the Louboutin rouge lipstick </p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/musegold/?hl=en">Miski Muse</a> and <a href="https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2017/06/158264/all-woman-project-real-women-confidence-campaign">the Refinery 29 Campaign  </a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/hailethomas/">@Hailey</a> and<a href="https://www.hailevthomas.com/recipes"> her vegan cookbook </a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/khloekares/">@Khloe Kares</a>, the 13 year old activist</p><p><a href="https://www.5lovelanguages.com/">The Five Love Languages book & quiz </a></p><p>A tried and tested bolognese recipe </p><p><strong>Below are resources and  hotlines for victims of abuse:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.thehotline.org/">National Domestic Violence </a><i> (you can donate to them as well)</i></p><p><a href="https://nwlc.org/">National Women’s Law Center </a></p><p><a href="https://www.nami.org/Home">National Alliances on Mental Illness </a></p><p><a href="https://metoomvmt.org/">Me Too Movement </a></p><p>Other Charities:</p><p><a href="https://houseofruth.org/">House of Ruth</a></p><p><a href="https://www.womensway.org/">Women’s Way</a></p><p> </p><p>Thank you to <a href="https://www.instagram.com/datalogsound/">Conor Heffernan</a> for the music, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/brianponto/">Brian Ponto f</a>or artwork and Joel North for his help in improving our Zoom recording sound somewhat. </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and if you are so inclined, rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. </i></p><p>For show notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter and more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">@annvi </a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, my friend Clementine Desseaux (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/bonjourclem/">@bonjourclem</a>), model, activist, TedEx speaker and CEO of the All Womxn Project shares stories ranging from her beginnings: with a start in business school, to a break through TV add as a plus-size model in France; her first "big" casting with American Apparel, and the trajectory that got her to start her charity, with the aim to offer young women limitless horizons.</p><p>Clem also explains to me how she has become her childhood idol, Indiana Jones, adding a thoughtful reflection on what it means to get the gold. She talks through her thoughts of fashion and beauty, and how things have moved on for plus size models. We end on her views about femininity and gelato: an indeed wide ranging and entertaining conversation with a bold and bright entrepreneur. </p><p>Clementine <a href="https://www.instagram.com/bonjourclem/">on Instagram </a></p><p><a href="https://linktr.ee/theallwomxnproject">The All Womxn Project </a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/BCkbpBJMaYc/?utm_source=ig_embed">Her Marie France Mag Cover </a></p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/A37VYd7jj0s">The TV ad </a>that launched Clem's career in France with Castaluna </p><p><a href="https://www.ma-grande-taille.com/mode/femme/photos-de-clementine-desseaux-pour-american-apparel-bodysuits-50351">Clem in the American Apparel campaign</a></p><p><a href="https://onbeing.org/programs/elizabeth-gilbert-choosing-curiosity-over-fear-may2018/">Elizabeth Gilbert on curiosity over fear</a>, interview by Krista Tippet for On Being Podcast </p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/07/fashion/plus-size-models-beauty.html">The New York Times Article</a> on beauty and body diversity</p><p><a href="https://www.thecut.com/2016/03/clementine-desseaux-louboutin-interview.html">The Cut interview </a></p><p>The painter <a href="http://www.jeromelagarrigue.com/">Jerome Lagarrigue </a></p><p><a href="https://www.self.com/story/this-stunning-campaign-shows-models-in-all-their-unretouched-glory">The Campaign </a>we talk about </p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/_FeRvFgWPa/">Clem's video</a> for the Louboutin rouge lipstick </p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/musegold/?hl=en">Miski Muse</a> and <a href="https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2017/06/158264/all-woman-project-real-women-confidence-campaign">the Refinery 29 Campaign  </a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/hailethomas/">@Hailey</a> and<a href="https://www.hailevthomas.com/recipes"> her vegan cookbook </a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/khloekares/">@Khloe Kares</a>, the 13 year old activist</p><p><a href="https://www.5lovelanguages.com/">The Five Love Languages book & quiz </a></p><p>A tried and tested bolognese recipe </p><p><strong>Below are resources and  hotlines for victims of abuse:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.thehotline.org/">National Domestic Violence </a><i> (you can donate to them as well)</i></p><p><a href="https://nwlc.org/">National Women’s Law Center </a></p><p><a href="https://www.nami.org/Home">National Alliances on Mental Illness </a></p><p><a href="https://metoomvmt.org/">Me Too Movement </a></p><p>Other Charities:</p><p><a href="https://houseofruth.org/">House of Ruth</a></p><p><a href="https://www.womensway.org/">Women’s Way</a></p><p> </p><p>Thank you to <a href="https://www.instagram.com/datalogsound/">Conor Heffernan</a> for the music, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/brianponto/">Brian Ponto f</a>or artwork and Joel North for his help in improving our Zoom recording sound somewhat. </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and if you are so inclined, rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. </i></p><p>For show notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter and more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">@annvi </a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<title>Rajesh Ramani on emotional resilience and self awareness or sharpening the axe</title>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Rajesh Ramani is a spiritual teacher, meditation and life enhancement coach based in Thailand, at the Kamalaya Wellness Centre in Koh Samui. I was fortunate to meet Rajesh after a seemingly random suggestion by a friend, days before visiting Samui for the first time. I feel privileged not just to have worked with Rajesh one on one, but also to have participated more recently in his new workshop, under the umbrella of the Self-Leadership Days.In this conversation, we talk about his journey from banker to monk to mentor, his work at Kamalaya, how to deal with grief in times of a pandemic and the importance of self-awareness and developing emotional resilience. You will probably hear the birds of Samui in the background, hopefully, that will add to the colour of the show. Enjoy!</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this conversation, <a href="https://www.kamalaya.com/meditation-teacher-thailand.htm">Rajesh Raman</a>i (on<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/people/?firstName=Rajesh&lastName=Ramani&origin=SEO_PSERP"> LinkedIn</a>) kindly relates his journey from South India to becoming a spiritual teacher as well as a life transformation coach based in the world renowned <a href="https://www.kamalaya.com/index.htm">Kamalaya</a> Wellness Centre in Southern Thailand. </p><p>I ask him about the importance of Self Awareness and he tells me a story about a wood cutter, which leads us to discussing the pragmatic need for us to know who we are and how we understand the world. He then brings up some of the mind's restless movements and how that can be the focus of meditation. </p><p>We touch on how he takes everything into account to support the people who come to him, from mental, emotional and spiritual part of their journey and  he offers advice to business executives in this time of great challenge, cueing them to put an emphasis on human connections. "Stay away from negativity" he advises,  "and invest in relationships." </p><p>We then move on to talk about how to deal with grief with the backdrop of COVID-19 and how to release guilt, anger, and other associated emotions. His advice: "Let yourself grieve!"</p><p>Rajesh also goes over the new workshops he will lead online and off line, with the <a href="https://selfleadershipdays.com">Self Leadership Days</a> , the next one being focused on Emotional Resilience, a skill we probably all need to cultivate in these times.  We bring up goddesses, Kali in particular,  then Carl Sagan “The Pale Blue Dot” and I finish our chat with three questions: </p><p><i>What are you reading right now? </i></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita">The Bagavad Gita</a></p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27838896-50-greatest-short-stories">The 50 greatest short stories</a></p><p><i>I know you are partial to Netflix occasionally, what are you watching at the moment? </i></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/ch-en/">Netflix</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim's_Convenience">Kim’s Convenience</a> Store</p><p><i>And any final words to share with our listeners? </i></p><p>You'll have to listen to the episode to discover this answer. Until next time, be well and thank you.</p><p>Thank you to Conor Heffernan for the music and Joel North for his help in improving our Zoom recording sound somewhat. </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and if you are so enclined, rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. </i></p><p>For show notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">@annvi </a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this conversation, <a href="https://www.kamalaya.com/meditation-teacher-thailand.htm">Rajesh Raman</a>i (on<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/people/?firstName=Rajesh&lastName=Ramani&origin=SEO_PSERP"> LinkedIn</a>) kindly relates his journey from South India to becoming a spiritual teacher as well as a life transformation coach based in the world renowned <a href="https://www.kamalaya.com/index.htm">Kamalaya</a> Wellness Centre in Southern Thailand. </p><p>I ask him about the importance of Self Awareness and he tells me a story about a wood cutter, which leads us to discussing the pragmatic need for us to know who we are and how we understand the world. He then brings up some of the mind's restless movements and how that can be the focus of meditation. </p><p>We touch on how he takes everything into account to support the people who come to him, from mental, emotional and spiritual part of their journey and  he offers advice to business executives in this time of great challenge, cueing them to put an emphasis on human connections. "Stay away from negativity" he advises,  "and invest in relationships." </p><p>We then move on to talk about how to deal with grief with the backdrop of COVID-19 and how to release guilt, anger, and other associated emotions. His advice: "Let yourself grieve!"</p><p>Rajesh also goes over the new workshops he will lead online and off line, with the <a href="https://selfleadershipdays.com">Self Leadership Days</a> , the next one being focused on Emotional Resilience, a skill we probably all need to cultivate in these times.  We bring up goddesses, Kali in particular,  then Carl Sagan “The Pale Blue Dot” and I finish our chat with three questions: </p><p><i>What are you reading right now? </i></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita">The Bagavad Gita</a></p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27838896-50-greatest-short-stories">The 50 greatest short stories</a></p><p><i>I know you are partial to Netflix occasionally, what are you watching at the moment? </i></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/ch-en/">Netflix</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim's_Convenience">Kim’s Convenience</a> Store</p><p><i>And any final words to share with our listeners? </i></p><p>You'll have to listen to the episode to discover this answer. Until next time, be well and thank you.</p><p>Thank you to Conor Heffernan for the music and Joel North for his help in improving our Zoom recording sound somewhat. </p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and if you are so enclined, rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. </i></p><p>For show notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">@annvi </a></p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. 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			<title>Good is the New Cool with Eva Geraldine</title>
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			<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[In this episode, I am joined by Eva Geraldine. Eva is a former fashion editor with multiple publications who now runs her own business, Goooders, that specialises in sustainable and ethical brands. Eva talks to me about her journey to fashion, the importance of her zen meditation practice, how "Good is the New Cool" and how we can all do our part to be more sustainable.]]></itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Today I talk to <a href="https://www.instagram.com/evageraldine/?hl=en">Eva Geraldine Fontanelli</a>. We begin by discussing how Eva is coping with the lockdow then tells me about her meditation practice. She studies a form of Japanese Buddhist meditation that she discovered in her 20’s. While meditating, she recites the mantra, “<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namu_Myōhō_Renge_Kyō">nam myoho renge kyo</a>” which she roughly translates as ‘I believe in the law of cause and effect.’ Through her meditation, she finds answers to questions from within herself and declares the practice to also have a practical aspect to the results outside herself.</p><p>I was curious to ask Eva about her start in the fashion industry and discover what brought her to a cover shoot with Gilles Bensimon for <a href="https://www.elle.com">Elle US</a> on the streets of NYC, the moment she discovered that being a fashion stylist could be (or would be) her career. Eva tells me about her journey from unpaid intern to junior editor and how her determination and being the only Spanish speaker in the fashion department really worked to her advantage. She also believes in her own unique style and sense of humor and explains how authenticity and honesty is at the core of how she works.</p><p>I then ask Eva where her interest in sustainability began and we discuss the Social Sustainable program, acting as a mentor for brands like the beautiful <a href="https://www.instagram.com/theorendatribe/?igshid=dsbapn0yshsd">Orenda Tribe</a> and the UN  Ethical Fashion Initiative headed by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simone_Cipriani">Simone Cipriani</a>. She then tells all about  <a href="https://goooders.com/">Goooders</a>, the platform she created to sell and to promote sustainable brands, like one of her favourites <a href="https://parafina.eco/en/home/">Parafina,</a> and explains the meaning of the motto: “When you do good, you look good!”</p><p>I also ask Eva about conscious travel post-COVID-19. She is optimistic and tells me of an Italian proverb: "Non tutto il male vien per nuocere" which she translates as ‘not all bad things come to damage you.’ She is operating from a place of gratitude and sees the opportunities that this global event provides us.</p><p> </p><p>I conclude the podcast by asking Eva these questions:</p><p>1) What is your favorite word?</p><p><i>"Grazie. Merci. Thank you. So, basically it's one of my secrets, because I have always been thankful and I try to be thankful all the time. Something really that keeps me happy. So, I'm really grateful for that time. So it's one of the word I say most. Grazie, grazie, grazie, to people in the street to the vendors, friends. You know, a word I really, really love."</i></p><p>2) What are you not good at?</p><p><i>“Laundry. Unless you like tie & dye style, I would avoid laundry”</i></p><p>3) What brings you happiness?</p><p><i>“I have a little gratitude journal where sometimes I force myself to write at least 10 things I'm grateful for every day.</i></p><p><i>So sometimes I come up sometimes with superficial things like my coffee but these days, I'm really, really thankful for my body and my health.“</i></p><p>You can find out more about Eva here: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/evageraldine/?hl=en">Instagram</a></p><p>You can find more about Goooders here: <a href="https://goooders.com">Goooders</a> and on their <a href="https://www.instagram.com/goooders_/">Instagram</a></p><p> </p><p><i><strong>Select Links from Eva on both Buddhism and sustainability: </strong></i></p><p>Eva's zen buddhist community is <a href="https://www.sgi.org/">SGI</a>.</p><p>Eva’s<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Buddha-Your-Mirror-Practical-Buddhism/dp/0967469783"> book recommendations</a> for meditation practice</p><p>And another suggestion for introduction to <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Buddha-Daily-Life-Introduction-Daishonin/dp/071267456X/ref=pd_sbs_14_1/144-1354581-1599950?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=071267456X&pd_rd_r=0e2be4bf-0636-4a4e-a071-3039b581d49b&pd_rd_w=mSSux&pd_rd_wg=nD85P&pf_rd_p=12b8d3e2-e203-4b23-a8bc-68a7d2806477&pf_rd_r=EFWP425XAZVYF52S13WV&psc=1&refRID=EFWP425XAZVYF52S13WV">buddhism</a></p><p>Eva’s recommendations for sustainability resources:</p><p><i>To read:</i></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.it/This-Good-Guide-Sustainable-Lifestyle-ebook/dp/B07KSH5S4R/ref=sr_1_1?adgrpid=55344439351&dchild=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrb3Yw6ne6QIVZIBQBh187Q8kEAAYASAAEgKxWfD_BwE&hvadid=255175186749&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=1008463&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=7849761209152380298&hvtargid=kwd-460692380291&hydadcr=18611_1763861&keywords=this+is+a+good+guide&qid=1591039961&sr=8-1">This is a good guide</a></p><p><a href="https://www.harvardmagazine.com">Harvard Magazine</a></p><p><a href="http://missionmag.org">Mission Magazine</a></p><p><br /><i>To listen to:</i></p><p><a href="https://www.theminimalists.com/podcast/">The Minimalists Podcast</a></p><p><a href="https://thegreendivas.com">The Green Divas podcast</a></p><p><i>To follow: </i></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/behavebandana/?hl=en">Bandana Tewari</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/mrspress/?igshid=ikam0n154fmf">Clare Press</a></p><p><a href="https://ethicalfashioninitiative.org">https://ethicalfashioninitiative.org</a></p><p>_______________________________</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and if you are so enclined, rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts.</i></p><p>For show notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">@annvi </a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Today I talk to <a href="https://www.instagram.com/evageraldine/?hl=en">Eva Geraldine Fontanelli</a>. We begin by discussing how Eva is coping with the lockdow then tells me about her meditation practice. She studies a form of Japanese Buddhist meditation that she discovered in her 20’s. While meditating, she recites the mantra, “<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namu_Myōhō_Renge_Kyō">nam myoho renge kyo</a>” which she roughly translates as ‘I believe in the law of cause and effect.’ Through her meditation, she finds answers to questions from within herself and declares the practice to also have a practical aspect to the results outside herself.</p><p>I was curious to ask Eva about her start in the fashion industry and discover what brought her to a cover shoot with Gilles Bensimon for <a href="https://www.elle.com">Elle US</a> on the streets of NYC, the moment she discovered that being a fashion stylist could be (or would be) her career. Eva tells me about her journey from unpaid intern to junior editor and how her determination and being the only Spanish speaker in the fashion department really worked to her advantage. She also believes in her own unique style and sense of humor and explains how authenticity and honesty is at the core of how she works.</p><p>I then ask Eva where her interest in sustainability began and we discuss the Social Sustainable program, acting as a mentor for brands like the beautiful <a href="https://www.instagram.com/theorendatribe/?igshid=dsbapn0yshsd">Orenda Tribe</a> and the UN  Ethical Fashion Initiative headed by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simone_Cipriani">Simone Cipriani</a>. She then tells all about  <a href="https://goooders.com/">Goooders</a>, the platform she created to sell and to promote sustainable brands, like one of her favourites <a href="https://parafina.eco/en/home/">Parafina,</a> and explains the meaning of the motto: “When you do good, you look good!”</p><p>I also ask Eva about conscious travel post-COVID-19. She is optimistic and tells me of an Italian proverb: "Non tutto il male vien per nuocere" which she translates as ‘not all bad things come to damage you.’ She is operating from a place of gratitude and sees the opportunities that this global event provides us.</p><p> </p><p>I conclude the podcast by asking Eva these questions:</p><p>1) What is your favorite word?</p><p><i>"Grazie. Merci. Thank you. So, basically it's one of my secrets, because I have always been thankful and I try to be thankful all the time. Something really that keeps me happy. So, I'm really grateful for that time. So it's one of the word I say most. Grazie, grazie, grazie, to people in the street to the vendors, friends. You know, a word I really, really love."</i></p><p>2) What are you not good at?</p><p><i>“Laundry. Unless you like tie & dye style, I would avoid laundry”</i></p><p>3) What brings you happiness?</p><p><i>“I have a little gratitude journal where sometimes I force myself to write at least 10 things I'm grateful for every day.</i></p><p><i>So sometimes I come up sometimes with superficial things like my coffee but these days, I'm really, really thankful for my body and my health.“</i></p><p>You can find out more about Eva here: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/evageraldine/?hl=en">Instagram</a></p><p>You can find more about Goooders here: <a href="https://goooders.com">Goooders</a> and on their <a href="https://www.instagram.com/goooders_/">Instagram</a></p><p> </p><p><i><strong>Select Links from Eva on both Buddhism and sustainability: </strong></i></p><p>Eva's zen buddhist community is <a href="https://www.sgi.org/">SGI</a>.</p><p>Eva’s<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Buddha-Your-Mirror-Practical-Buddhism/dp/0967469783"> book recommendations</a> for meditation practice</p><p>And another suggestion for introduction to <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Buddha-Daily-Life-Introduction-Daishonin/dp/071267456X/ref=pd_sbs_14_1/144-1354581-1599950?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=071267456X&pd_rd_r=0e2be4bf-0636-4a4e-a071-3039b581d49b&pd_rd_w=mSSux&pd_rd_wg=nD85P&pf_rd_p=12b8d3e2-e203-4b23-a8bc-68a7d2806477&pf_rd_r=EFWP425XAZVYF52S13WV&psc=1&refRID=EFWP425XAZVYF52S13WV">buddhism</a></p><p>Eva’s recommendations for sustainability resources:</p><p><i>To read:</i></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.it/This-Good-Guide-Sustainable-Lifestyle-ebook/dp/B07KSH5S4R/ref=sr_1_1?adgrpid=55344439351&dchild=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrb3Yw6ne6QIVZIBQBh187Q8kEAAYASAAEgKxWfD_BwE&hvadid=255175186749&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=1008463&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=7849761209152380298&hvtargid=kwd-460692380291&hydadcr=18611_1763861&keywords=this+is+a+good+guide&qid=1591039961&sr=8-1">This is a good guide</a></p><p><a href="https://www.harvardmagazine.com">Harvard Magazine</a></p><p><a href="http://missionmag.org">Mission Magazine</a></p><p><br /><i>To listen to:</i></p><p><a href="https://www.theminimalists.com/podcast/">The Minimalists Podcast</a></p><p><a href="https://thegreendivas.com">The Green Divas podcast</a></p><p><i>To follow: </i></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/behavebandana/?hl=en">Bandana Tewari</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/mrspress/?igshid=ikam0n154fmf">Clare Press</a></p><p><a href="https://ethicalfashioninitiative.org">https://ethicalfashioninitiative.org</a></p><p>_______________________________</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and if you are so enclined, rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts.</i></p><p>For show notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/annvi">@annvi </a></p><p>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/">@annvi </a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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			<itunes:subtitle>In this trailer, Anne Muhlethaler, host of Out Of The Clouds offers a short introduction on both her background and the podcast: a platform for conversations with yoga and meditation teachers, entrepreneurs, artists, designers, around business and mindfulness, a reflection on integrated living.</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[In this trailer, Anne Muhlethaler, host of Out Of The Clouds offers a short introduction on both her background and the podcast: a platform for conversations with yoga and meditation teachers, entrepreneurs, artists, designers, around business and mindfulness, a reflection on integrated living.  This episode is brought to you by Le TrenteAre you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personalnarrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically withyour audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how youconnect with the world?Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-drivenindividuals and organizations to communicate authentically.Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach bothindividuals and brands through their communication journey—from identityexploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadershipand compassionate, holistic communication.Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspireopen-minded people and organisations to build better worlds throughcommunity-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching andstorytelling.Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples ofpositive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen. FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE HERE. *** If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and considerwriting a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciateyour support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds onSimplecast - https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds athttps://outoftheclouds.com.Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds: IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or onThreads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheCloudsFor more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, the Mettā View,her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the futureof work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.<p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this trailer, Anne Muhlethaler, host of Out Of The Clouds offers a short introduction on both her background and the podcast: a platform for conversations with yoga and meditation teachers, entrepreneurs, artists, designers, around business and mindfulness, a reflection on integrated living.  This episode is brought to you by Le TrenteAre you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personalnarrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically withyour audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how youconnect with the world?Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-drivenindividuals and organizations to communicate authentically.Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach bothindividuals and brands through their communication journey—from identityexploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadershipand compassionate, holistic communication.Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspireopen-minded people and organisations to build better worlds throughcommunity-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching andstorytelling.Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples ofpositive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen. FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE HERE. *** If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and considerwriting a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciateyour support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds onSimplecast - https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds athttps://outoftheclouds.com.Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds: IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or onThreads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheCloudsFor more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, the Mettā View,her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the futureof work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.<p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>How to be a Pirate with Diana Rilov</title>
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			<itunes:subtitle>In this inaugural episode of Out of the Clouds, Anne is joined by longtime friend and teacher Diana Rilov. Today they will be discussing how Diana came to yoga, aging gracefully, what it means to be a ‘pirate’ and Diana’s personal philosophy about spirituality in yoga.Anne and Diana met while Anne was living in New York after she decided to take one of Diana’s classes at Equinox. We hear how Diana first discovered yoga as a woman growing up in the 60’s after studying Art History and French, as well as working various jobs before finding her calling in yoga.Diana tells us about her first experience of yoga and how she immediately knew it was something that she wanted to pursue. She discusses the process of certification to become a yoga teacher and how difficult it was to do so during a time when yoga as an emerging practice. We also hear about her experiences learning under Dona Holleman and her advice for creating her own path: “Be a pirate, get the gold and run.” This means that you should go to many different teachers, learn what they have to offer and take it to use as your own to inform your journey.Anne asks Diana about her classes and teaching process. Diana talks about the workshop style of the classes that she arranges and the way her intuition guides her, especially when pairing or grouping people to work together. Anne also touches on the Bon Vivant retreats that Diana runs in Italy and how they split working and learning during the day with La Dolce Vita in the evenings to engender balance. Diana also explains her concept of the ‘Spiritual Selfie’ and how she would rather you come to your own spirituality, or not, instead of imposing it during classes.The two then talk about how perceptions of growing older have changed over the years and Diana’s attitude to aging. They touch on their shared role-model of Ali MacGraw and how Anne first tried yoga with her tapes. Diana talks about the way you become invisible after 50 and how aging is perceived as frightening. She talks about letting her hair go white and modelling at 73 along with what she sees for her journey in the future.Anne concludes the podcast by asking Diana three questions:1) Who do you admire?Ruth Bader Ginsberg, a Supreme Court Judge at age 87 who was the first woman to graduate from Harvard Law School.2) What would you say to your younger self?Trust your intuition, when you are older you will care less about what other people think and be able to become the woman you wanted to be.3) What brings you happiness?Today it is being safe, grounded and being able to have perspective while the world is in crisis.</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.dianarilov.com/">Diana’s website</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/dianarilov/">Diana on Instagram</a></p><p><a href="https://www.equinox.com">Equinox</a></p><p><a href="https://www.henribendel.com">Henri Bendel</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geraldine_Stutz">Geraldine Stuzt</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aga_Khan">The Aga Khan</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Fonda">Jane Fonda</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iyengar_Yoga">Iyengar Yoga</a></p><p><a href="https://sivanandayogaranch.org">Sivananda Ashram New York</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Centered-Yoga-Dona-Holleman-Principles/dp/B00DTVXWSO">Donna Holleman</a></p><p><a href="http://bksiyengar.com">Mr BKS Iyengar</a></p><p><a href="https://www.dianarilov.com/retreats">Bon Vivant Retreats</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calisthenics">Calisthenics</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_MacGraw">Ali MacGraw</a></p><p>Ali MacGraw's<a href="https://youtu.be/VNt9qP0_hYI"> Yoga in the Desert</a></p><p><a href="https://erichschiffmann.com">Eric Schiffmann</a></p><p><a href="https://www.jenniferlopez.com">J Lo</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheryl_Sandberg">Sheryl Sandberg</a></p><p><a href="https://www.adamgrant.net">Adam Grant</a></p><p><a href="https://onbeing.org/programs/sheryl-sandberg-and-adam-grant-resilience-after-unimaginable-loss-apr2017/">Sheryl Sandberg & Adam Grant interview on grief </a></p><p><a href="mailto:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selfie">Selfie</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com">Instagram</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Bader_Ginsburg">Ruth Bader Ginsburg</a></p><p><a href="https://hls.harvard.edu">Harvard Law School</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_von_F%C3%BCrstenberg">Diane Von Furstenberg</a></p><p><a href="https://zoom.us">Zoom</a></p><p>_______________________________</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and if you are so enclined, rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts.</i></p><p>For show notes and transcripts, please visit <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com">Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast</a>. </p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter at <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com">https://annevmuhlethaler.com</a>.</p><p>Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Drop us at a line at hello@outoftheclouds.com.</p><p><i>Follow Anne:</i></p><p>Twitter: twitter.com/annvi</p><p>Instagram: instagram.com/annvi</p><p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by Le Trente</strong></p><p>Are you a purpose-driven individual seeking clarity in your personal narrative? Is your brand struggling to communicate authentically with your audience? Looking for a thought partnership that transforms how you connect with the world?</p><p><strong>Le Trente is a global community that emboldens purpose-driven individuals and organizations to communicate authentically. Headquartered in Geneva but serving clients worldwide, we coach both individuals and brands through their communication journey—from identity exploration to strategy development—all grounded in mindful leadership and compassionate, holistic communication.</strong></p><p>Our mission is to be a catalyst for positive change. We inspire open-minded people and organisations to build better worlds through community-building salons, strategic consulting, mindful coaching and storytelling.</p><p>Ready to transform your approach to communication and create ripples of positive change? Get in touch, we like to make magic happen.&nbsp;</p><p>FIND OUT MORE ABOUT LE TRENTE <a href="https://letrente.com/" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br>&nbsp;</p><p>***</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><i>If you enjoyed this episode, click subscribe for more, and consider writing a review of the show on Apple Podcasts, we really appreciate your support and feedback. And thank you so much for listening!</i></p><p>For all notes and transcripts, please visit Out Of The Clouds on Simplecast - <a href="https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/" target="_blank">https://out-of-the-clouds.simplecast.com/</a></p><p>Sign up for Anne's email newsletter for more from Out of the Clouds at <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com">https://outoftheclouds.com</a>.</p><p><i>Follow Anne and Out of the Clouds:</i> IG: @_outoftheclouds or @annvi Or on Threads @annvi On Youtube @OutoftheClouds</p><p>For more, you can read and subscribe to Anne's Substack, <a href="https://letrente.com/metta-view">the Mettā View, </a>her weekly dose of insights on coaching, brand development, the future of work, and storytelling, with a hint of mindfulness.</p></p><p>Visit our website: <a href="https://outoftheclouds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://outoftheclouds.com/</a></p><p>Subscribe to Anne's newsletter The Mettā View: <a href="https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://annevmuhlethaler.com/the-metta-view</a></p><p>Follow Anne on IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/annvi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/annvi/</a></p><p>BlueSky: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/annvi.bsky.social</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-v-muhlethaler</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. 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