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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[Join ex-CIA officer John Kiriakou on a very personal deep dive into what makes a spy tick. One of the most famous spies in the whole world, John - a spy with a conscience - ratted out the CIA's torture program after the war on terror and spent 23 months in federal prison for it. As John explains, no spy is ever an "ex-spy". Why is that so? Listen to the podcast and you'll understand why.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>S1E22 The Good, The Bad, The Ugly</title>
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			<itunes:subtitle>What Makes THIS Spy Tick, Part 20</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: John finds that working in the private sector (doing corporate intel at Deloitte and Touche) for big money, perks and benefits has its advantages over working a lot more for a lot less at the agency. Then one day - when everything's going gangbusters for John, he gets a call from Brian Ross at ABC News. And everything changes. But, how did Ross find John? And why was the news media so slow to take up and believe the torture story? By the time reporters like Ross found their way to John, they were in a feeding frenzy. In this episode, we'll tell you why that happened and how it contributed to what happened to John. </p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: John finds that working in the private sector (doing corporate intel at Deloitte and Touche) for big money, perks and benefits has its advantages over working a lot more for a lot less at the agency. Then one day - when everything's going gangbusters for John, he gets a call from Brian Ross at ABC News. And everything changes. But, how did Ross find John? And why was the news media so slow to take up and believe the torture story? By the time reporters like Ross found their way to John, they were in a feeding frenzy. In this episode, we'll tell you why that happened and how it contributed to what happened to John. </p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>S1E21 End Of Times</title>
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			<itunes:subtitle>What Makes THIS Spy Tick, Part 19</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: Everything must end - including a CIA career. While John had planned to make a lifetime career of the agency, circumstances dictated otherwise. So, to a large degree, did his new immediate boss-from-hell. In this episode, John begins to suss out a new, post-CIA life just over the horizon. The problem will be getting out of the CIA in one piece.</p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: Everything must end - including a CIA career. While John had planned to make a lifetime career of the agency, circumstances dictated otherwise. So, to a large degree, did his new immediate boss-from-hell. In this episode, John begins to suss out a new, post-CIA life just over the horizon. The problem will be getting out of the CIA in one piece.</p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<itunes:subtitle>What Makes THIS Spy Tick, Part 18</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: Returning from the mission in Pakistan, John decided his kids needed him to stay closer to home for a whie. He applied for and got a domestic assignment. The problem? His new boss, a pencil-pusher named Mary Margaret hated him and did everything she could think of to prove it.</p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: Returning from the mission in Pakistan, John decided his kids needed him to stay closer to home for a whie. He applied for and got a domestic assignment. The problem? His new boss, a pencil-pusher named Mary Margaret hated him and did everything she could think of to prove it.</p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<itunes:subtitle>What Makes THIS Spy Tick, Part 17</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: If this story has a heart of darkness, this is it. How did American policy find its way to legitimizing torture? In this episode, we'll take you down that terrible road. America became a torturer because certain people - including then Vice President Dick Cheney - wanted us to be that thing. We'll also describe how the Bush Administration's wordplay, dancing around the word "torture", made torture inevitable.</p><p> </p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: If this story has a heart of darkness, this is it. How did American policy find its way to legitimizing torture? In this episode, we'll take you down that terrible road. America became a torturer because certain people - including then Vice President Dick Cheney - wanted us to be that thing. We'll also describe how the Bush Administration's wordplay, dancing around the word "torture", made torture inevitable.</p><p> </p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<itunes:subtitle>What Makes THIS Spy Tick, Part 16</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: After John watched Abu Zubaydah's plane rendition him to what turned out to be a black site in Thailad, he still had lots of other terrorists to interrogate. He felt contrite after getting overly physical with a detainee - but no one else in the chain of command felt John had been out of line. Returning stateside, John is approached by the agency. They want to know if he's interested in learning enhanced interrogation techniques. He wasn't. And, so began the fracture that would ultimately set John apart.</p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: After John watched Abu Zubaydah's plane rendition him to what turned out to be a black site in Thailad, he still had lots of other terrorists to interrogate. He felt contrite after getting overly physical with a detainee - but no one else in the chain of command felt John had been out of line. Returning stateside, John is approached by the agency. They want to know if he's interested in learning enhanced interrogation techniques. He wasn't. And, so began the fracture that would ultimately set John apart.</p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>S1E17 Zain</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>What Makes THIS Spy Tick, Part 15</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: For 70 hours, almost three days, John was responsible for handling Abu Zubaydah, the terrorist the agency believed was Al Qaeda's number three. Though their time togeter was relatively short - and Zain (Abu Zubaydah's actual name) spent much of it unconscious - John did manage to build a human connection with him and began to appreciate the person inside the nom de guerre. Zain is renditioned elsewhere. John goes back to work interrogating all the other terrorists they'd grabbed alongside Abu Zubaydah while Abu Zubaydah begins to encounter the treatment that would ultimately lead to torture.</p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: For 70 hours, almost three days, John was responsible for handling Abu Zubaydah, the terrorist the agency believed was Al Qaeda's number three. Though their time togeter was relatively short - and Zain (Abu Zubaydah's actual name) spent much of it unconscious - John did manage to build a human connection with him and began to appreciate the person inside the nom de guerre. Zain is renditioned elsewhere. John goes back to work interrogating all the other terrorists they'd grabbed alongside Abu Zubaydah while Abu Zubaydah begins to encounter the treatment that would ultimately lead to torture.</p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>S1E16 Captured</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>What Makes THIS Spy Tick, Part 14</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: The hunt for Al Qaeda's number three, an elusive terrorist with the nom de guerre Abu Zubaydah, intensifies but seems to go nowhere.  The team scoops up lots of smaller prey, but can never seem to pin down Abu Zubaydah himself. And then an anonymous walk-in tip leads to a (literal) phone line which leads to... Abu Zubaydah?  </p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: The hunt for Al Qaeda's number three, an elusive terrorist with the nom de guerre Abu Zubaydah, intensifies but seems to go nowhere.  The team scoops up lots of smaller prey, but can never seem to pin down Abu Zubaydah himself. And then an anonymous walk-in tip leads to a (literal) phone line which leads to... Abu Zubaydah?  </p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>S1E15 The Hunt Begins</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>What Makes THIS Spy Tick, Part 13</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: John lands in Pakistan where the hunt for Al Qaeda's leadership begins with the hunt for the perfect safe house. John also begins to coordinate his team with Pakistani intelligence (not a very trusting relationship). And then a tip comes in: Al Qaeda's number three, a terrorist with the nom de guerre Abu Zubaydah, has been spotted in Pakistan. John is tasked with coming up with the plan to capture Abu Zubaydah.</p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: John lands in Pakistan where the hunt for Al Qaeda's leadership begins with the hunt for the perfect safe house. John also begins to coordinate his team with Pakistani intelligence (not a very trusting relationship). And then a tip comes in: Al Qaeda's number three, a terrorist with the nom de guerre Abu Zubaydah, has been spotted in Pakistan. John is tasked with coming up with the plan to capture Abu Zubaydah.</p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Mini Episode 5 Betrayal</title>
			<itunes:title>Mini Episode 5 Betrayal</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Aldrich Ames & Harold James Nicholson]]></itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: Aldrich Ames was a CIA counterintelligence officer who was convicted of espionage on behalf of the soviet Union and Russia in 1994. Ames was responsible for the arrest and eventual execution of numerous Soviet and Russian officials secretly working on behalf of US intellifence, and had compromised more highly classified CIA assets than any other intelligence officer at the time of his arrest. What caused Rich Ames to betray his craft and his country? Why does any spy go rogue?</p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: Aldrich Ames was a CIA counterintelligence officer who was convicted of espionage on behalf of the soviet Union and Russia in 1994. Ames was responsible for the arrest and eventual execution of numerous Soviet and Russian officials secretly working on behalf of US intellifence, and had compromised more highly classified CIA assets than any other intelligence officer at the time of his arrest. What caused Rich Ames to betray his craft and his country? Why does any spy go rogue?</p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>S1E14 Game On</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>What Makes THIS Spy Tick, Part 12</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: With America - and the CIA - at war, everyone wants to fight, especially John. But, his skill sets aren't the required ones as the War On Terror begins. The CIA, it turns out, had an actual plan to deal with Osama bin Laden. After settling some old business back in Greece, John begins to work on the CTC's leadership, looking for a way to in to Afghanistan. And then one opens up... </p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: With America - and the CIA - at war, everyone wants to fight, especially John. But, his skill sets aren't the required ones as the War On Terror begins. The CIA, it turns out, had an actual plan to deal with Osama bin Laden. After settling some old business back in Greece, John begins to work on the CTC's leadership, looking for a way to in to Afghanistan. And then one opens up... </p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>S1E13 Hostages</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>What Makes THIS Spy Tick, Part 11</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: After Joanne kidnaps John's two sons - instead of making them available for his six weeks summer vacation with them - John uses his espionage skills to track them all down. Hothead that he is, rather than wait for the legal system to work to his benefit, John nearly ruins everything by iniating a "hostage situation" of his own. At work, John's time in the penalty box is about to get truncated - as more and more Agency resources get focused on a terrorist quickly growing in prominence on the Agency's radar: Osama bin Laden.</p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: After Joanne kidnaps John's two sons - instead of making them available for his six weeks summer vacation with them - John uses his espionage skills to track them all down. Hothead that he is, rather than wait for the legal system to work to his benefit, John nearly ruins everything by iniating a "hostage situation" of his own. At work, John's time in the penalty box is about to get truncated - as more and more Agency resources get focused on a terrorist quickly growing in prominence on the Agency's radar: Osama bin Laden.</p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>S1E12 The Grind</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>What Makes THIS Spy Tick, Part 10</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: Back in America, John settles in to a year or so "in the penalty box" because of what happened in Athens. John's divorce from Joanne gets complicated by Joanne's brinksmanship. But John does what he must to keep himself in his sons' life. Despite all the Life complications, John scores a small succuss at work. Whatever joy that produces gets undercut when Joanne kidnaps the boys.  </p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: Back in America, John settles in to a year or so "in the penalty box" because of what happened in Athens. John's divorce from Joanne gets complicated by Joanne's brinksmanship. But John does what he must to keep himself in his sons' life. Despite all the Life complications, John scores a small succuss at work. Whatever joy that produces gets undercut when Joanne kidnaps the boys.  </p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>S1E11 Have Human Spies Become Obsolete?</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: In this episode, John chats with former CIA officer turned wildly successful novelist BARRY EISLER about spying and how it lends itself to storytelling. After a three year stint as a covert officer in the CIA’s Directorate of Operations, Barry worked as a technology lawyer and startup executive in Silicon Valley and Japan, earned a black belt at the Kodokan Judo Institute and began writing great, award-winning thrillers including the #1 bestsellers Livia Lone, The Night Trade, and The Killer Collective. John and Barry discuss the current state of spies, spying and spycraft - and whether it might be over for straight humint and the human spies who cultivate it.</p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more information about Barry Eisler, please visit <a href="https://barryeisler.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">barryeisler.com</a>.</p><br><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: In this episode, John chats with former CIA officer turned wildly successful novelist BARRY EISLER about spying and how it lends itself to storytelling. After a three year stint as a covert officer in the CIA’s Directorate of Operations, Barry worked as a technology lawyer and startup executive in Silicon Valley and Japan, earned a black belt at the Kodokan Judo Institute and began writing great, award-winning thrillers including the #1 bestsellers Livia Lone, The Night Trade, and The Killer Collective. John and Barry discuss the current state of spies, spying and spycraft - and whether it might be over for straight humint and the human spies who cultivate it.</p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more information about Barry Eisler, please visit <a href="https://barryeisler.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">barryeisler.com</a>.</p><br><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>S1E10 Blind Spot</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>What Makes THIS Spy Tick, Part 9</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: John's assignment in Athens comes to a head when an assassination attempt on him goes awry with tragic results. But that merely compounds the situation at home when John learns - from his 6 year old son - that his wife's been cheating on him. </p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: John's assignment in Athens comes to a head when an assassination attempt on him goes awry with tragic results. But that merely compounds the situation at home when John learns - from his 6 year old son - that his wife's been cheating on him. </p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>S1E9 The Hothead</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>What Makes THIS Spy Tick, Part 8</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: The very things that made Athens a great counter-terrorism assignment also made it incredibly dangerous. John's intensive training was designed to make him paranoid. It succeeded. Not all threats were terrorism. Some were just local criminals being criminals. Still, living in Athens was mostly a joy. There was ample good food and culture. But the threat of violence was both persistent and pervasive. So was the paranoia.</p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: The very things that made Athens a great counter-terrorism assignment also made it incredibly dangerous. John's intensive training was designed to make him paranoid. It succeeded. Not all threats were terrorism. Some were just local criminals being criminals. Still, living in Athens was mostly a joy. There was ample good food and culture. But the threat of violence was both persistent and pervasive. So was the paranoia.</p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>S1E8 The James Bond Academy</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>What Makes THIS Spy Tick, Part 7</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: When John turned his back on being a deskbound analyst in favor of risking his neck out in the field, he knew he'd made the right decision. Blowing things up - including cars - and playing spy games made him incredibly happy. Who wouldn't be happy? In this episode, John takes you way behind the scenes at the CIA's "James Bond Academy" - an actual place (just not with that name) where the CIA trains its agents how to be the best spies they can be.</p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: When John turned his back on being a deskbound analyst in favor of risking his neck out in the field, he knew he'd made the right decision. Blowing things up - including cars - and playing spy games made him incredibly happy. Who wouldn't be happy? In this episode, John takes you way behind the scenes at the CIA's "James Bond Academy" - an actual place (just not with that name) where the CIA trains its agents how to be the best spies they can be.</p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>S1E7 The Shadow Of Richard Welch</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>What Makes THIS Spy Tick, Part 6</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: On the one hand, being assigned to handle counter-terrorism in Athens was a dream job. On the other, it had nightmarish implications and very real dangers up to and including assassination. That's what happened to a former Athens station chief, the highly regarded Richard Welch. A Greek terrorist group assassinated Welch outside his residence after he attended a Christmas party. In this episode, John comes face to face with Welch's shadow - and begins to sense something of his own future in it. </p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: On the one hand, being assigned to handle counter-terrorism in Athens was a dream job. On the other, it had nightmarish implications and very real dangers up to and including assassination. That's what happened to a former Athens station chief, the highly regarded Richard Welch. A Greek terrorist group assassinated Welch outside his residence after he attended a Christmas party. In this episode, John comes face to face with Welch's shadow - and begins to sense something of his own future in it. </p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Mini Episode 4: Grave Concerns</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: Both spying and the subject of this episode - cemeteries - piqued John's youthful curiosity at roughly the same age. Spying, of course, became John's vocation. But John's love for cemeteries - especially for the people buried in them - became a very happy ridealong. Working around the world for the CIA meant visiting cemeteries around the world. In this episode, we preview "GRAVE CONCERNS", a new podcast series that we'll begin dropping in March 2026 (that's soon)! The podcast is based on a brand new book John's written - "REMAINS OF THE DAY: The Definitive Guide to the Historic Cemeteries of Washington, DC" which also will drop in March 2026. As we hope you'll agree, graveyards should have no secrets!</p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>In this episode, John visits The Rock Creek Cemetery in northewest Washington, DC. Among the graves he'll visit: John Harlan Marshall, Alice Longworth, Arkady Nikolayevich Shevchenko and Gore Vidal.</p><br><p>To pre-order "REMAINS OF THE DAY", please visit </p><br><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><br><p><br></p><br><p><br></p><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: Both spying and the subject of this episode - cemeteries - piqued John's youthful curiosity at roughly the same age. Spying, of course, became John's vocation. But John's love for cemeteries - especially for the people buried in them - became a very happy ridealong. Working around the world for the CIA meant visiting cemeteries around the world. In this episode, we preview "GRAVE CONCERNS", a new podcast series that we'll begin dropping in March 2026 (that's soon)! The podcast is based on a brand new book John's written - "REMAINS OF THE DAY: The Definitive Guide to the Historic Cemeteries of Washington, DC" which also will drop in March 2026. As we hope you'll agree, graveyards should have no secrets!</p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>In this episode, John visits The Rock Creek Cemetery in northewest Washington, DC. Among the graves he'll visit: John Harlan Marshall, Alice Longworth, Arkady Nikolayevich Shevchenko and Gore Vidal.</p><br><p>To pre-order "REMAINS OF THE DAY", please visit </p><br><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><br><p><br></p><br><p><br></p><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>S1E6 A Failure Of Analysis</title>
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			<itunes:subtitle>What Makes THIS Spy Tick, Part 5</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: When his assignment to Bahrain ends, John finds himself back at CIA HQ in Langley, settling in to life as an analyst - a bored drone at a boring desk. It doesn't take long for John to hanker instead for something more satisfying: something in operations - out in the field. Something a little more dangerous... </p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: When his assignment to Bahrain ends, John finds himself back at CIA HQ in Langley, settling in to life as an analyst - a bored drone at a boring desk. It doesn't take long for John to hanker instead for something more satisfying: something in operations - out in the field. Something a little more dangerous... </p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Mini Episode 3: A Spy's Guide To... Sofia]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Mini Episode 3: A Spy's Guide To... Sofia]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: In this episode, we preview a new podcast series that we'll start dropping in Spring 2026 - "A Spy's Guide To" which will look at the great cities of the world (and the not-so-great) entirely from the perspective of spies and spying. It'll be like a travel guide for spooks. Since spies have to live in these cities (in addition to working them), we'll approach and appreciate our first city guide - to SOFIA, BULGARIA - as we will all of these cities - like a spy would. A City is a place to recruit agents, locate safe houses and begin collecting secrets.</p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: In this episode, we preview a new podcast series that we'll start dropping in Spring 2026 - "A Spy's Guide To" which will look at the great cities of the world (and the not-so-great) entirely from the perspective of spies and spying. It'll be like a travel guide for spooks. Since spies have to live in these cities (in addition to working them), we'll approach and appreciate our first city guide - to SOFIA, BULGARIA - as we will all of these cities - like a spy would. A City is a place to recruit agents, locate safe houses and begin collecting secrets.</p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[S1E5 Singin' In Bahrain]]></title>
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			<itunes:subtitle>What Makes THIS Spy Tick, Part 4</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: At first glance Bahrain was a good starting assignment. It was a veritable paradise, a great place to learn without much pressure. The US Navy was based there. And, it was a literal paradise. Working (on the surface) for the State Department, John pissed off Bahrain's Prime Minister while charming its Emir. The days of no pressure ended with a literal bang when terrorists blew up the Khobar Tower, a building housing US Air Force personnel in nearby Saudi Arabia, plunging John into action.</p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: At first glance Bahrain was a good starting assignment. It was a veritable paradise, a great place to learn without much pressure. The US Navy was based there. And, it was a literal paradise. Working (on the surface) for the State Department, John pissed off Bahrain's Prime Minister while charming its Emir. The days of no pressure ended with a literal bang when terrorists blew up the Khobar Tower, a building housing US Air Force personnel in nearby Saudi Arabia, plunging John into action.</p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>S1E4 Good Spies, Bad Endings</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>A Conversation About Bill Buckley</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: Among the things that make spies tick is fear. Fear of being caught - and then tortured and/or killed. Stories like Beirut Station Chief Bill Buckley's are what keep spies like John Kiriakou up at night. Buckley came to the CIA from the US Army where he was a highly decorated special forces officer. Once recruited by the CIA, Buckley served successfully in places like Cambodia, Egypt and Pakistan. Beirut was another story - a difficult one filled with questions.</p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>You can find Fred Burton and Samuel Katz's Beirut Rules here -</p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31019046-beirut-rules?from_search=true&amp;from_srp=true&amp;qid=wsCKRCuTSK&amp;rank=1 " rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31019046-beirut-rules?from_search=true&amp;from_srp=true&amp;qid=wsCKRCuTSK&amp;rank=1 </a></p><br><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: Among the things that make spies tick is fear. Fear of being caught - and then tortured and/or killed. Stories like Beirut Station Chief Bill Buckley's are what keep spies like John Kiriakou up at night. Buckley came to the CIA from the US Army where he was a highly decorated special forces officer. Once recruited by the CIA, Buckley served successfully in places like Cambodia, Egypt and Pakistan. Beirut was another story - a difficult one filled with questions.</p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>You can find Fred Burton and Samuel Katz's Beirut Rules here -</p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31019046-beirut-rules?from_search=true&amp;from_srp=true&amp;qid=wsCKRCuTSK&amp;rank=1 " rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31019046-beirut-rules?from_search=true&amp;from_srp=true&amp;qid=wsCKRCuTSK&amp;rank=1 </a></p><br><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Mini Episode 2: Pete Seeger, American Hero</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: From the time he was 5 or 6 and became aware of him, John always admired and wanted to know folk singer and activist Pete Seeger. In fact, John vowed to become friends with the legend - which, in fact, John did: he and Pete did become friends. How an event that echoed across Pete's life also echoed across John's. </p><br><p><br></p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: From the time he was 5 or 6 and became aware of him, John always admired and wanted to know folk singer and activist Pete Seeger. In fact, John vowed to become friends with the legend - which, in fact, John did: he and Pete did become friends. How an event that echoed across Pete's life also echoed across John's. </p><br><p><br></p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>S1E3 Golden Boy</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>What Makes THIS Spy Tick, Part 3</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: Having been recruited into the CIA by legendary CIA officer Jerry Post - and by applying himself completely - John's CIA career took off with a bullet. If ever there was a CIA Golden Boy, John was it. That fact that he came up as a golden boy would prove ironic in the end. In this episode, John goes from briefing the President in the Oval Office to the theatre of war itself: Iraq. It's good to be a "Golden Boy". But it isn't all good.</p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><br><p>You can find "Just The Photographer with David Swanson" here - <a href="https://shows.acast.com/just-the-photographer-with-david-swanson" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://shows.acast.com/just-the-photographer-with-david-swanson</a> </p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: Having been recruited into the CIA by legendary CIA officer Jerry Post - and by applying himself completely - John's CIA career took off with a bullet. If ever there was a CIA Golden Boy, John was it. That fact that he came up as a golden boy would prove ironic in the end. In this episode, John goes from briefing the President in the Oval Office to the theatre of war itself: Iraq. It's good to be a "Golden Boy". But it isn't all good.</p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><br><p>You can find "Just The Photographer with David Swanson" here - <a href="https://shows.acast.com/just-the-photographer-with-david-swanson" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://shows.acast.com/just-the-photographer-with-david-swanson</a> </p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Mini Episode 1: Sadam's Shrink]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2025 19:48:48 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: Talk about getting thrown into the deep end of the pool! When Iraq and Kuwait - John's new "area of expertise" - suddenly go to war (Iraq invaded Kuwait), John unexpectedly finds himself called to the White House - where, as a 25 year old newbie - he's asked to brief President George H W Bush, Vice President Dan Quayle and the the intelligence chiefs on what Saddam will do next. That's what happens when you become the CIA's Sadam Whisperer. Or his shrink.</p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: Talk about getting thrown into the deep end of the pool! When Iraq and Kuwait - John's new "area of expertise" - suddenly go to war (Iraq invaded Kuwait), John unexpectedly finds himself called to the White House - where, as a 25 year old newbie - he's asked to brief President George H W Bush, Vice President Dan Quayle and the the intelligence chiefs on what Saddam will do next. That's what happens when you become the CIA's Sadam Whisperer. Or his shrink.</p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>S1E2 The New Recruit</title>
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			<itunes:subtitle>What Makes THIS Spy Tick, Part 2</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: After a graduate class professor recruits John, he throws himself into a mystifying series of tests all seemingly designed to trip up his desire to become a spy for America. How exactly does an institution like the CIA train people to spy for it? Welcome to your first class! </p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: After a graduate class professor recruits John, he throws himself into a mystifying series of tests all seemingly designed to trip up his desire to become a spy for America. How exactly does an institution like the CIA train people to spy for it? Welcome to your first class! </p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>S1E1 What Makes THIS Spy Tick</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2025 15:50:47 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>What Makes THIS Spy Tick, Part 1</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: John Kiriakou knew when he was <em>9 years old</em> that he wanted to be a spy. Plenty of people <em>want</em> to be spies but only a few ever actually <em>become </em>spies. In E1, John tells his origin story. Where he and his family came from had a lot to do with his success as an intelligence officer working in dangerous places. From wanting to be James Bond to actually becoming something a lot <em>like</em> Bond. It's "How To Be A Spy, Part 1".</p><br><p><br></p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><br><p>To listen to Just The Photographer, please visit <a href="https://shows.acast.com/just-the-photographer-with-david-swanson" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Just The Photographer with David Swanson - Hosted by David Swanson</a> </p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: John Kiriakou knew when he was <em>9 years old</em> that he wanted to be a spy. Plenty of people <em>want</em> to be spies but only a few ever actually <em>become </em>spies. In E1, John tells his origin story. Where he and his family came from had a lot to do with his success as an intelligence officer working in dangerous places. From wanting to be James Bond to actually becoming something a lot <em>like</em> Bond. It's "How To Be A Spy, Part 1".</p><br><p><br></p><br><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><p>For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit <a href="https://costardandtouchstone.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://costardandtouchstone.com/</a></p><br><p>To listen to Just The Photographer, please visit <a href="https://shows.acast.com/just-the-photographer-with-david-swanson" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Just The Photographer with David Swanson - Hosted by David Swanson</a> </p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>S1E0 Coming Very Soon</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 16:53:26 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>What Makes A Spy Tick</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: Enjoy this brief preview of "John Kiriakou's Dead Drop: What Makes A Spy Tick" - a brand new podcast that will take you deep inside the mind of one of the best known spies in the whole world: former CIA officer John Kiriakou. You've heard former spies talk about spying, but you've never heard a spy go this deep into a spy's psyche - starting with his own.</p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><br><p>For more information and an even deeper dive into the show - jkdeaddrop.com</p><br><p><br></p><br><p><br></p><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE BLURB: Enjoy this brief preview of "John Kiriakou's Dead Drop: What Makes A Spy Tick" - a brand new podcast that will take you deep inside the mind of one of the best known spies in the whole world: former CIA officer John Kiriakou. You've heard former spies talk about spying, but you've never heard a spy go this deep into a spy's psyche - starting with his own.</p><br><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES</u></p><br><p>For more information and an even deeper dive into the show - jkdeaddrop.com</p><br><p><br></p><br><p><br></p><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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