From first client meetings and court appearances to mistakes, mentoring and unglamorous early tasks, Susan and Bao share honest lessons from their careers. They also explore the importance of resilience, earning trust, asking questions, accepting feedback and finding the area of law that suits you.

Whether you are a law student, graduate, junior lawyer or established practitioner, this episode offers a candid reminder that a successful legal career is built one experience at a time.

Subscribe to De-suiting the Law for more honest conversations about the people and realities behind Australia’s legal profession.

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De-Suiting the Law is a video podcast hosted by Aitken Partners Principal Lawyers Susan Ilias and Bao Ngo. The series sets out to demystify the legal profession, with real conversations about what lawyers actually do, and why it matters.

Through candid conversations and real-life insights, Susan and Bao highlight professionalism, ethics, courtroom realities, client care, and the hard work behind every case - while making the law more human, honest, and accessible.

You can find the podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or on our YouTube channel

Get in touch with our team at: www.aitken.com.au

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Australian Fashion Week and Melbourne Fashion Week may offer plenty of style inspiration for young lawyers, but the courtroom calls for a different kind of fashion judgment. What looks striking on a runway may not be suitable when representing a client, appearing before a judge, or showing respect for the court.

Susan and Bao explore the do’s and don’ts of courtroom attire, from suits, jackets and appropriate footwear to the risks of dressing too casually, too extravagantly, or too much like a TV lawyer. They also discuss client perception, evolving standards in the profession, and practical advice, including knowing your audience and the right clothing items and accessories to keep on standby for urgent appearances.

Make sure you catch this episode, so you don’t get caught out in the wrong outfit in court!

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De-Suiting the Law is a video podcast hosted by Aitken Partners Principal Lawyers Susan Ilias and Bao Ngo. The series sets out to demystify the legal profession, with real conversations about what lawyers actually do, and why it matters.

Through candid conversations and real-life insights, Susan and Bao highlight professionalism, ethics, courtroom realities, client care, and the hard work behind every case - while making the law more human, honest, and accessible.

You can find the podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or on our YouTube channel

Get in touch with our team at: www.aitken.com.au

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

They explain core courtroom etiquette, including why there are no surprise witnesses, no roaming the room, and no “approach the bench” moments. They also discuss professionalism and ethics, noting that a lawyer’s paramount duty is to the court and that theatrics or slurs would attract serious consequences.

They highlight the months of preparation behind a single hearing, from affidavits to document bundles that can run to thousands of pages. Susan and Bao also share how pop culture influences clients and self‑represented litigants, and why civility and relevance matter more than shouting across the room.

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De-suiting the Law is a video podcast hosted by Aitken Partners Principal Lawyers Susan Ilias and Bao Ngo. The series sets out to demystify the legal profession, with real conversations about what lawyers actually do, and why it matters.

Through candid conversations and real-life insights, Susan and Bao highlight professionalism, ethics, courtroom realities, client care, and the hard work behind every case - while making the law more human, honest, and accessible.

You can find the podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or on our YouTube channel

Get in touch with our team at: www.aitken.com.au

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.