60 acast.com Both Sides Now https://www.buzzsprout.com/2063560 en © 2026 Both Sides Now Both Sides Now Both Sides Now was co-founded in 2022 by Eve McCallum and Finn Ross, who could see the increasing polarisation and the decreasing youth engagement in politics. They wanted to show that you could disagree politically and still be great mates. The show interviewed a range of high-profile politicians and journalists from across the political spectrum, including 6 Prime Ministers, 4 party leaders and 2 journalists. 


The show is back for election year 2026, and with Finn now being based in the UK, Alex Martin is stepping up to fill the left-leaning co-host role. Not only will the show continue its work to break down political polarisation and increase youth engagement, but it will do so with a new focus on women in politics. Eve and Alex have both seen the unfounded, increased vitriol towards female politicians in recent years, and we want to give them a chance to share their stories and educate and inspire other women to step up and become politicians. 

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]]> Both Sides Now was co-founded in 2022 by Eve McCallum and Finn Ross, who could see the increasing polarisation and the decreasing youth engagement in politics. They wanted to show that you could disagree politically and still be great mates. The show interviewed a range of high-profile politicians and journalists from across the political spectrum, including 6 Prime Ministers, 4 party leaders and 2 journalists. 


The show is back for election year 2026, and with Finn now being based in the UK, Alex Martin is stepping up to fill the left-leaning co-host role. Not only will the show continue its work to break down political polarisation and increase youth engagement, but it will do so with a new focus on women in politics. Eve and Alex have both seen the unfounded, increased vitriol towards female politicians in recent years, and we want to give them a chance to share their stories and educate and inspire other women to step up and become politicians. 

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]]> false Both Sides Now info+6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619@mg-eu.acast.com 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 both-sides-now https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2063560.rss episodic https://assets.pippa.io/shows/6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619/1780906053914-a03c167c-6719-4fcc-9664-085efb485e9b.jpeg https://www.buzzsprout.com/2063560 Both Sides Now https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 Opportunity party leader Qiulae Wong on the new Opportunity Party, left v right divide and Mt Albert campaign Opportunity party leader Qiulae Wong on the new Opportunity Party, left v right divide and Mt Albert campaign Sat, 13 Jun 2026 19:00:00 GMT 51:20 6a2d1791cd02369494297f1a false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/opportunity-party-leader-qiulae-wong 6a2d1791cd02369494297f1a 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 opportunity-party-leader-qiulae-wong full 4 14 She's the woman hoping to pull off one of the biggest upsets in New Zealand's MMP history. Qiulae Wong — known as 'Q' — is the new leader of the Opportunity Party, and she joins us on Both Sides Now to talk about what needs to change in NZ politics, why the left-right divide is holding the country back, and her mission to get Opportunity into Parliament for the very first time.


We talk about her career in sustainable business — from working with global brands overseas to consulting at KPMG — and how that shaped her political vision. She opens up about how becoming a mum inspired her to step into politics, what it's like running as a two-tick candidate in Mt Albert, and why she believes New Zealand is finally ready for something different.

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]]> She's the woman hoping to pull off one of the biggest upsets in New Zealand's MMP history. Qiulae Wong — known as 'Q' — is the new leader of the Opportunity Party, and she joins us on Both Sides Now to talk about what needs to change in NZ politics, why the left-right divide is holding the country back, and her mission to get Opportunity into Parliament for the very first time.


We talk about her career in sustainable business — from working with global brands overseas to consulting at KPMG — and how that shaped her political vision. She opens up about how becoming a mum inspired her to step into politics, what it's like running as a two-tick candidate in Mt Albert, and why she believes New Zealand is finally ready for something different.

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]]> Stalking, climate change litigation and do polls really matter? Stalking, climate change litigation and do polls really matter? Sat, 06 Jun 2026 19:38:26 GMT 50:14 6a247733a2db34bb8985ad38 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/stalking-climate-change-litigation-and-do-polls-really-matte 6a247733a2db34bb8985ad38 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 stalking-climate-change-litigation-and-do-polls-really-matte full 4 13 In this weeks episode we examine the Government's new stalking legislation, which will create a standalone stalking offence for the first time in New Zealand. We discuss why existing laws have often failed to adequately capture patterns of obsessive and threatening behaviour, what conduct the new offence will cover, and whether the proposed penalties and protections strike the right balance.


We then turn to the Supreme Court's landmark decision in Smith v Fonterra. We break down what the Court actually decided, why the case is being viewed as a significant development in climate change litigation, and the implications of allowing novel climate-related claims to proceed through the courts. We also discuss the Government's response, including its decision to introduce legislation aimed at limiting or overturning the effect of the ruling, and the political debate that has followed. Alongside this, we unpack the lobbying controversy that has emerged around the proposed law change and what it reveals about the influence of interest groups on the policymaking process.


Finally, we dive into the world of political polling. Polls can dominate headlines and shape political narratives, but what do they really tell us? We explore how polls are conducted, why different polls can produce different results, and whether polls merely reflect public opinion or actively influence voter behaviour.

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]]> In this weeks episode we examine the Government's new stalking legislation, which will create a standalone stalking offence for the first time in New Zealand. We discuss why existing laws have often failed to adequately capture patterns of obsessive and threatening behaviour, what conduct the new offence will cover, and whether the proposed penalties and protections strike the right balance.


We then turn to the Supreme Court's landmark decision in Smith v Fonterra. We break down what the Court actually decided, why the case is being viewed as a significant development in climate change litigation, and the implications of allowing novel climate-related claims to proceed through the courts. We also discuss the Government's response, including its decision to introduce legislation aimed at limiting or overturning the effect of the ruling, and the political debate that has followed. Alongside this, we unpack the lobbying controversy that has emerged around the proposed law change and what it reveals about the influence of interest groups on the policymaking process.


Finally, we dive into the world of political polling. Polls can dominate headlines and shape political narratives, but what do they really tell us? We explore how polls are conducted, why different polls can produce different results, and whether polls merely reflect public opinion or actively influence voter behaviour.

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]]> <![CDATA[Budget breakdown - what is it, why is it important and what's in it for you]]> Sat, 30 May 2026 19:00:00 GMT 53:41 Buzzsprout-19264103 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4817f169d643061144 6a21eb4817f169d643061144 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full It's Budget week, which means we've dedicated this episode to breaking down the Government's biggest announcement of the year.

We talk through what the Budget actually is, why politicians and the media obsess over it every May, and what this year's decisions tell us about the Government's priorities. We look at the key spending announcements, where the money is going, and who stands to benefit.

Of course, every Budget creates winners and losers, so we discuss who came out ahead, who missed out, and some of the criticisms already being levelled at the Government's choices.

We also look beyond the Government benches and discuss how other parties might respond. What policies could Labour, the Greens, ACT and New Zealand First put forward as alternatives? And what does this Budget tell us about the political debates we'll be having over the next year?

If you've seen the headlines but want to understand what it all actually means, this episode is for you.

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]]> It's Budget week, which means we've dedicated this episode to breaking down the Government's biggest announcement of the year.

We talk through what the Budget actually is, why politicians and the media obsess over it every May, and what this year's decisions tell us about the Government's priorities. We look at the key spending announcements, where the money is going, and who stands to benefit.

Of course, every Budget creates winners and losers, so we discuss who came out ahead, who missed out, and some of the criticisms already being levelled at the Government's choices.

We also look beyond the Government benches and discuss how other parties might respond. What policies could Labour, the Greens, ACT and New Zealand First put forward as alternatives? And what does this Budget tell us about the political debates we'll be having over the next year?

If you've seen the headlines but want to understand what it all actually means, this episode is for you.

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]]> Breakdown of Nicole McKee, changes to family carers law, public service cuts and more! Breakdown of Nicole McKee, changes to family carers law, public service cuts and more! Sat, 23 May 2026 20:00:00 GMT 56:57 Buzzsprout-19225801 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb5217f169d6430613a9 6a21eb5217f169d6430613a9 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 4 11 This week on the podcast, politics delivered another packed agenda and we covered it all — from our interview with Nicole McKee and what she had to say about ACT’s priorities in Government, through to the latest debates dominating Wellington.

We unpacked the Government’s proposed changes to the family carers legislation and the difficult balancing act between recognising carers, managing costs, and ensuring support systems are sustainable. We also discussed the latest wave of public sector cuts, what they mean in practice, and whether the Government's made the right call. 

We also took a closer look at the ongoing debate around Treaty clauses in legislation, including the decision to remove or narrow references across a range of laws and why this issue continues to generate such strong political and public reaction.

Plus, we chat about Christopher Luxon’s speech to BusinessNZ and what it shows about his approach to the rest of the year. 

A big week, plenty of debate, and lots to unpack.

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]]> This week on the podcast, politics delivered another packed agenda and we covered it all — from our interview with Nicole McKee and what she had to say about ACT’s priorities in Government, through to the latest debates dominating Wellington.

We unpacked the Government’s proposed changes to the family carers legislation and the difficult balancing act between recognising carers, managing costs, and ensuring support systems are sustainable. We also discussed the latest wave of public sector cuts, what they mean in practice, and whether the Government's made the right call. 

We also took a closer look at the ongoing debate around Treaty clauses in legislation, including the decision to remove or narrow references across a range of laws and why this issue continues to generate such strong political and public reaction.

Plus, we chat about Christopher Luxon’s speech to BusinessNZ and what it shows about his approach to the rest of the year. 

A big week, plenty of debate, and lots to unpack.

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]]> Hon Nicole McKee on firearms, family and her political career Hon Nicole McKee on firearms, family and her political career Sat, 16 May 2026 19:00:00 GMT 45:41 Buzzsprout-19179843 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb48be8560e74b436523 6a21eb48be8560e74b436523 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 4 10 In this episode, we sit down with Hon Nicole McKee to discuss the issues that have defined both her political career and her personal journey. From firearm reform and the aftermath of the Christchurch mosque attacks, to the realities of being a Māori woman in politics, Nicole shares candid insights into some of New Zealand’s most debated topics.

We talk about why firearms matter to many New Zealanders, what the public often misunderstands about gun ownership, and whether the country’s firearm reforms have achieved what they set out to do. Nicole also reflects on her path from the Council of Licensed Firearms Owners to Parliament, and the challenges that came with stepping into the political spotlight.

Beyond policy, this conversation explores identity, resilience, and family. Nicole shares how raising four children has shaped her approach to leadership and public service. 

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]]> In this episode, we sit down with Hon Nicole McKee to discuss the issues that have defined both her political career and her personal journey. From firearm reform and the aftermath of the Christchurch mosque attacks, to the realities of being a Māori woman in politics, Nicole shares candid insights into some of New Zealand’s most debated topics.

We talk about why firearms matter to many New Zealanders, what the public often misunderstands about gun ownership, and whether the country’s firearm reforms have achieved what they set out to do. Nicole also reflects on her path from the Council of Licensed Firearms Owners to Parliament, and the challenges that came with stepping into the political spotlight.

Beyond policy, this conversation explores identity, resilience, and family. Nicole shares how raising four children has shaped her approach to leadership and public service. 

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]]> Fees free, breakdown of Desley Simpson, grievance driven politics and birth rates Fees free, breakdown of Desley Simpson, grievance driven politics and birth rates Sat, 09 May 2026 22:00:00 GMT 49:43 Buzzsprout-19150790 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4cbe8560e74b43664f 6a21eb4cbe8560e74b43664f 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 4 9 This week on the podcast, we covered a LOT — from the government’s surprise Fees Free announcement hot off the press, a breakdown of our episode with Deputy Mayor Desley Simpson and what the UK local council elections might signal globally as Reform makes major gains.

We unpacked the new Helen Clark Foundation social cohesion report, including the striking finding that 28% of people feel alienated from society, and explored the growing divide between the “connected”, the “ambivalent”, and the “alienated”. We also looked across the Tasman at the rise of One Nation in Australia and the broader trend of grievance-driven politics and polarisation.

We also touched on the scrapping of the Broadcasting Standards Authority and the resignation of Maiki Sherman. 

And finally, we had an honest discussion about why so many young women are hesitant about having children. Policies like paid parental leave and subsidised childcare matter, but they only scratch the surface. The mental load, career impacts, financial pressure, and expectations placed on women all shape decisions around family — at a time when birth rates continue to fall well below replacement level.

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]]> This week on the podcast, we covered a LOT — from the government’s surprise Fees Free announcement hot off the press, a breakdown of our episode with Deputy Mayor Desley Simpson and what the UK local council elections might signal globally as Reform makes major gains.

We unpacked the new Helen Clark Foundation social cohesion report, including the striking finding that 28% of people feel alienated from society, and explored the growing divide between the “connected”, the “ambivalent”, and the “alienated”. We also looked across the Tasman at the rise of One Nation in Australia and the broader trend of grievance-driven politics and polarisation.

We also touched on the scrapping of the Broadcasting Standards Authority and the resignation of Maiki Sherman. 

And finally, we had an honest discussion about why so many young women are hesitant about having children. Policies like paid parental leave and subsidised childcare matter, but they only scratch the surface. The mental load, career impacts, financial pressure, and expectations placed on women all shape decisions around family — at a time when birth rates continue to fall well below replacement level.

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]]> Deputy Mayor Desley Simpson on Leadership, Local Government, and Auckland’s Future Deputy Mayor Desley Simpson on Leadership, Local Government, and Auckland’s Future Sat, 02 May 2026 19:00:00 GMT 50:08 Buzzsprout-19112259 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4714e465e5ce7cf870 6a21eb4714e465e5ce7cf870 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 4 8 In this episode, we sit down with Deputy Mayor of Auckland Desley Simpson to unpack the realities of local government, leadership during crisis, and why local politics deserves far more attention especially from young people.

A key theme throughout the conversation is the disconnect between people and local government. While councils shape everyday life from transport to infrastructure many voters remain disengaged. Simpson shares her thoughts on why voter turnout in local body elections is so low, and what needs to change to make people genuinely care about participating. 

We also dive into leadership under pressure. Auckland has faced multiple crises in recent years, and Desley reflects  on what it takes to step up and lead in these situations. 

Throughout the episode, she shares how the role has reshaped her own perspectives, offering insights into the realities of governance that many people don’t see.

We also look a what motivated her to step into local government and explore the political philosophy that shapes her decision-making and leadership style.

Finally, we look ahead: with growing skepticism toward government at all levels, what does the future of local government look like and how can it rebuild trust?

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]]> In this episode, we sit down with Deputy Mayor of Auckland Desley Simpson to unpack the realities of local government, leadership during crisis, and why local politics deserves far more attention especially from young people.

A key theme throughout the conversation is the disconnect between people and local government. While councils shape everyday life from transport to infrastructure many voters remain disengaged. Simpson shares her thoughts on why voter turnout in local body elections is so low, and what needs to change to make people genuinely care about participating. 

We also dive into leadership under pressure. Auckland has faced multiple crises in recent years, and Desley reflects  on what it takes to step up and lead in these situations. 

Throughout the episode, she shares how the role has reshaped her own perspectives, offering insights into the realities of governance that many people don’t see.

We also look a what motivated her to step into local government and explore the political philosophy that shapes her decision-making and leadership style.

Finally, we look ahead: with growing skepticism toward government at all levels, what does the future of local government look like and how can it rebuild trust?

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]]> Breakdown of Wayne Eagleson, Tova v the PM, FTAs and Shane Jones Breakdown of Wayne Eagleson, Tova v the PM, FTAs and Shane Jones Sat, 25 Apr 2026 19:00:00 GMT 37:23 Buzzsprout-19074087 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb46ac951431d78a62de 6a21eb46ac951431d78a62de 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 4 7 Big episode this week. We unpack the Wayne Eagleson interview and what it reveals behind the scenes, then dive into the leadership confidence vote and what it signals for the party moving forward. We also break down Christopher Luxon’s call to pull out of his scheduled interviews with Tova O'Brien and what that says about his media strategy. 

On the policy front, we get into the India FTA — what’s actually on the table and why it matters — before wrapping with Shane Jones making headlines (again) for two comments that have people talking for all the wrong reasons.

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]]> Big episode this week. We unpack the Wayne Eagleson interview and what it reveals behind the scenes, then dive into the leadership confidence vote and what it signals for the party moving forward. We also break down Christopher Luxon’s call to pull out of his scheduled interviews with Tova O'Brien and what that says about his media strategy. 

On the policy front, we get into the India FTA — what’s actually on the table and why it matters — before wrapping with Shane Jones making headlines (again) for two comments that have people talking for all the wrong reasons.

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]]> Former Chief of Staff Wayne Eagleson on the machinery of government, being a political staffer and what makes a great PM Former Chief of Staff Wayne Eagleson on the machinery of government, being a political staffer and what makes a great PM Sat, 18 Apr 2026 19:00:00 GMT 44:41 Buzzsprout-19034799 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb47be8560e74b4364f3 6a21eb47be8560e74b4364f3 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 4 6 In this episode, we're joined by former Chief of Staff to the Prime Minister, Wayne Eagleson, for a behind-the-scenes look at how government really works.

We get into his career at the centre of power, what separates good PMs from great ones, and the real role political staffers play (beyond the headlines). Wayne shares how decisions get made under pressure, what loyalty and judgment look like in practice, and why the “machinery of government” is more complex — and more human — than most people think.

If you’re interested in politics, leadership, or how influence actually works behind closed doors, this one’s worth your time.

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]]> In this episode, we're joined by former Chief of Staff to the Prime Minister, Wayne Eagleson, for a behind-the-scenes look at how government really works.

We get into his career at the centre of power, what separates good PMs from great ones, and the real role political staffers play (beyond the headlines). Wayne shares how decisions get made under pressure, what loyalty and judgment look like in practice, and why the “machinery of government” is more complex — and more human — than most people think.

If you’re interested in politics, leadership, or how influence actually works behind closed doors, this one’s worth your time.

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]]> Breakdown of Barbara Edmonds Episode, public sector grad roles, Eve has watched Prime Minister and the cabinet reshuffle Breakdown of Barbara Edmonds Episode, public sector grad roles, Eve has watched Prime Minister and the cabinet reshuffle Sat, 11 Apr 2026 20:00:00 GMT 47:06 Buzzsprout-18999310 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4fe25fe33c7c70a772 6a21eb4fe25fe33c7c70a772 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 4 5 We unpack our takeaways from Barbara Edmonds’ latest interview, dive into the growing fuel crisis, and talk about the tough reality facing grads with fewer public sector roles available.

Plus, Eve shares her thoughts after watching Prime Minister, and we break down the recent cabinet reshuffle — were the right calls made?

Tune in for sharp insights and real talk on the issues shaping Aotearoa right now.

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]]> We unpack our takeaways from Barbara Edmonds’ latest interview, dive into the growing fuel crisis, and talk about the tough reality facing grads with fewer public sector roles available.

Plus, Eve shares her thoughts after watching Prime Minister, and we break down the recent cabinet reshuffle — were the right calls made?

Tune in for sharp insights and real talk on the issues shaping Aotearoa right now.

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]]> Hon Barbara Edmonds on family, election promises and working for National Hon Barbara Edmonds on family, election promises and working for National Sat, 28 Mar 2026 19:00:00 GMT 46:58 Buzzsprout-18920262 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4e1ddbe06b3a037b94 6a21eb4e1ddbe06b3a037b94 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 4 4 We are so excited for you to hear this one, we chat with Barb for a refreshingly honest conversation about life inside and outside Parliament. She opens up about raising a big family, her time working for National, and why community has always been at the centre of everything she does.

She shares why she's not making big promises about “fixing the economy” this election, what she thinks voters actually want to hear, and the kind of Finance Minister she hopes to be. 

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]]> We are so excited for you to hear this one, we chat with Barb for a refreshingly honest conversation about life inside and outside Parliament. She opens up about raising a big family, her time working for National, and why community has always been at the centre of everything she does.

She shares why she's not making big promises about “fixing the economy” this election, what she thinks voters actually want to hear, and the kind of Finance Minister she hopes to be. 

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]]> <![CDATA[Breakdown of Nicola Willis' interview, petrol prices, COVID-19 Royal Commission and a super rugby update]]> Sat, 21 Mar 2026 21:00:00 GMT 51:25 Buzzsprout-18884893 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb481ddbe06b3a037a39 6a21eb481ddbe06b3a037a39 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 4 3 We begin by reviewing our interview with Nicola Willis. We unpack the growing conflict involving the US, Israel and Iran, and how it’s starting to ripple into everyday life here — particularly through oil prices, petrol costs, and the wider cost of living in Aotearoa.

On the domestic front, we go through the newly released Royal Commission COVID-19 Lessons Learned Phase 2 report. 

We also touch on the latest developments surrounding Chris Hipkins and of course give a super rugby update. 

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]]> We begin by reviewing our interview with Nicola Willis. We unpack the growing conflict involving the US, Israel and Iran, and how it’s starting to ripple into everyday life here — particularly through oil prices, petrol costs, and the wider cost of living in Aotearoa.

On the domestic front, we go through the newly released Royal Commission COVID-19 Lessons Learned Phase 2 report. 

We also touch on the latest developments surrounding Chris Hipkins and of course give a super rugby update. 

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]]> Hon Nicola Willis on Pay Equity, Mum guilt and how her leadership style compares with Jacinda Ardern Hon Nicola Willis on Pay Equity, Mum guilt and how her leadership style compares with Jacinda Ardern Sat, 14 Mar 2026 19:00:00 GMT 58:17 Buzzsprout-18845014 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb49ac951431d78a6375 6a21eb49ac951431d78a6375 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 4 2 Finance Minister Nicola Willis joins the podcast for a candid conversation about the pressures and priorities of political leadership. From the debate around pay equity to the reality of mum guilt while holding one of the country’s most demanding jobs, Nicola shares how she navigates family, finance, and public scrutiny.

She also reveals the policy she believes every politician should be talking about this year and reflects on how her leadership style compares with Jacinda Ardern’s.

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]]> Finance Minister Nicola Willis joins the podcast for a candid conversation about the pressures and priorities of political leadership. From the debate around pay equity to the reality of mum guilt while holding one of the country’s most demanding jobs, Nicola shares how she navigates family, finance, and public scrutiny.

She also reveals the policy she believes every politician should be talking about this year and reflects on how her leadership style compares with Jacinda Ardern’s.

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]]> 2026 Preview and Predictions 2026 Preview and Predictions Sun, 08 Mar 2026 02:00:00 GMT 40:17 Buzzsprout-18807731 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4ebe8560e74b436b11 6a21eb4ebe8560e74b436b11 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 4 1 We are back and Eve is joined by a new co-host, Alex Martin.

In this first episode, we share our predictions for the political year ahead and talk through stories and issues we think will shape the months to come. We also outline what we’re planning for the podcast this season and the kinds of conversations we want to have along the way.

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]]> We are back and Eve is joined by a new co-host, Alex Martin.

In this first episode, we share our predictions for the political year ahead and talk through stories and issues we think will shape the months to come. We also outline what we’re planning for the podcast this season and the kinds of conversations we want to have along the way.

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]]> Former White House Deputy Chief of Staff Chris Liddell Speed Round Former White House Deputy Chief of Staff Chris Liddell Speed Round Wed, 24 Apr 2024 06:00:00 GMT 3:31 Buzzsprout-14946521 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb42be8560e74b4363df 6a21eb42be8560e74b4363df 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 bonus 3 2

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]]> Former White House Deputy Chief of Staff Chris Liddell on his time working for Donald Trump, American politics and his work to help New Zealand Former White House Deputy Chief of Staff Chris Liddell on his time working for Donald Trump, American politics and his work to help New Zealand Wed, 24 Apr 2024 06:00:00 GMT 58:27 Buzzsprout-14946499 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4aac951431d78a6407 6a21eb4aac951431d78a6407 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 3 2

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]]> James Meager MP Speed Round James Meager MP Speed Round Wed, 06 Mar 2024 19:00:00 GMT 2:56 Buzzsprout-14640795 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb42ac951431d78a61c5 6a21eb42ac951431d78a61c5 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 bonus 3 1

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]]> New MP James Meager on his proudest achievement, his future goals in politics and his Maiden Speech New MP James Meager on his proudest achievement, his future goals in politics and his Maiden Speech Mon, 04 Mar 2024 23:00:00 GMT 51:09 Buzzsprout-14627959 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb47e25fe33c7c70a59f 6a21eb47e25fe33c7c70a59f 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 3 1

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]]> TOP Leader Raf Manji Speed Round TOP Leader Raf Manji Speed Round Fri, 22 Sep 2023 06:00:00 GMT 1:36 Buzzsprout-13638387 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4ae25fe33c7c70a63f 6a21eb4ae25fe33c7c70a63f 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 bonus 2 4

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]]> <![CDATA[Raf Manji on TOP, what the polls don't show about their chances and the current MP who considered making the move]]> Thu, 21 Sep 2023 17:00:00 GMT 34:53 Buzzsprout-13631910 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4e17f169d6430612ca 6a21eb4e17f169d6430612ca 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 2 4

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]]> Paddy Gower speed(ish) round Paddy Gower speed(ish) round Fri, 08 Sep 2023 00:00:00 GMT 10:38 Buzzsprout-13546417 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4dac951431d78a64eb 6a21eb4dac951431d78a64eb 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full

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]]> Paddy Gower on leaders debates, being in the press gallery and journalism in NZ Paddy Gower on leaders debates, being in the press gallery and journalism in NZ Thu, 07 Sep 2023 17:00:00 GMT 59:05 Buzzsprout-13546391 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4abe8560e74b436582 6a21eb4abe8560e74b436582 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 2 3

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]]> Jack Tame Speed Round Jack Tame Speed Round Mon, 28 Aug 2023 00:00:00 GMT 5:44 Buzzsprout-13476056 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4717f169d64306112a 6a21eb4717f169d64306112a 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 bonus 2 2

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]]> Jack Tame on the media, polarisation and elections. Jack Tame on the media, polarisation and elections. Sun, 27 Aug 2023 17:00:00 GMT 43:22 Buzzsprout-13475930 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4de25fe33c7c70a73d 6a21eb4de25fe33c7c70a73d 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 2 2

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]]> Christopher Luxon Speed Round Christopher Luxon Speed Round Mon, 21 Aug 2023 00:00:00 GMT 4:04 Buzzsprout-13435885 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4217f169d64305ea1f 6a21eb4217f169d64305ea1f 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 bonus 2 1

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]]> Christopher Luxon on his political philosophy, polarisation and the issues facing NZ Christopher Luxon on his political philosophy, polarisation and the issues facing NZ Sun, 20 Aug 2023 02:00:00 GMT 43:44 Buzzsprout-13435262 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb48e25fe33c7c70a5b3 6a21eb48e25fe33c7c70a5b3 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 2 1

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]]> Wrap up of season one of Both Sides Now with Eve and Finn Wrap up of season one of Both Sides Now with Eve and Finn Sat, 10 Dec 2022 23:00:00 GMT 26:40 Buzzsprout-11848922 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4e1ddbe06b3a037b84 6a21eb4e1ddbe06b3a037b84 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 1 12

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]]> Hon Nikki Kaye Speed Round Hon Nikki Kaye Speed Round Tue, 15 Nov 2022 00:00:00 GMT 10:57 Buzzsprout-11694888 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb43e25fe33c7c70a4d8 6a21eb43e25fe33c7c70a4d8 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 bonus 1 11

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]]> Hon Nikki Kaye on being a liberal MP in the National Party, beating PM Jacinda Ardern in Auckland central and being a young MP Hon Nikki Kaye on being a liberal MP in the National Party, beating PM Jacinda Ardern in Auckland central and being a young MP Sun, 13 Nov 2022 16:00:00 GMT 32:55 Buzzsprout-11682810 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4fbe8560e74b436b3e 6a21eb4fbe8560e74b436b3e 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 1 11

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]]> Metiria Turei Speed Round Metiria Turei Speed Round Thu, 10 Nov 2022 00:00:00 GMT 3:37 Buzzsprout-11660905 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb42ac951431d78a61ea 6a21eb42ac951431d78a61ea 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full

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]]> Former Green Party Co Leader Metiria Turei debates greed, equality and racism in NZ Former Green Party Co Leader Metiria Turei debates greed, equality and racism in NZ Wed, 09 Nov 2022 16:00:00 GMT 47:44 Buzzsprout-11660901 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4917f169d64306116d 6a21eb4917f169d64306116d 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 1 10

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]]> Sir Roger Douglas Speed Round Sir Roger Douglas Speed Round Mon, 07 Nov 2022 01:00:00 GMT 2:26 Buzzsprout-11643093 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4bac951431d78a644f 6a21eb4bac951431d78a644f 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 bonus 1 9

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]]> Sir Roger Douglas on Rogernomics, moving from Labour to ACT and NZ politics today Sir Roger Douglas on Rogernomics, moving from Labour to ACT and NZ politics today Sun, 06 Nov 2022 16:00:00 GMT 52:01 Buzzsprout-11638032 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb5114e465e5ce7d012c 6a21eb5114e465e5ce7d012c 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 1 9

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]]> Rt Hon Jim Bolger talks International Relations, Capital Gains Tax and the art of being PM Rt Hon Jim Bolger talks International Relations, Capital Gains Tax and the art of being PM Wed, 02 Nov 2022 16:00:00 GMT 50:45 Buzzsprout-11614694 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb481ddbe06b3a037a25 6a21eb481ddbe06b3a037a25 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 1 8 We went and caught up with former National Prime Minister of 7 years the Rt Hon Jim Bolger. Finn particularly enjoyed this interview, ‘a man after my own heart’ with Jim answering the question on what is the biggest challenge NZ is facing the same as Finn, inequality and climate change. Jim told us some classic stories including talking Nukes with Bill Clinton on the back of a boat and about his establishment of Te Papa against popular opinion. Also to Finn’s liking Jim was outspoken in his support of capital gains tax which is surprising given few of the National Party have done this.

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]]> We went and caught up with former National Prime Minister of 7 years the Rt Hon Jim Bolger. Finn particularly enjoyed this interview, ‘a man after my own heart’ with Jim answering the question on what is the biggest challenge NZ is facing the same as Finn, inequality and climate change. Jim told us some classic stories including talking Nukes with Bill Clinton on the back of a boat and about his establishment of Te Papa against popular opinion. Also to Finn’s liking Jim was outspoken in his support of capital gains tax which is surprising given few of the National Party have done this.

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]]> Te Ururoa Falvell Speed Round Te Ururoa Falvell Speed Round Mon, 31 Oct 2022 00:00:00 GMT 1:23 Buzzsprout-11597106 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4bbe8560e74b4365f6 6a21eb4bbe8560e74b4365f6 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full

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]]> Te Ururoa Flavell on Co Governance, the Treaty and The Maori Party Te Ururoa Flavell on Co Governance, the Treaty and The Maori Party Sun, 30 Oct 2022 21:00:00 GMT 56:38 Buzzsprout-11596391 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb5017f169d64306135f 6a21eb5017f169d64306135f 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 1 7

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]]> Sir Geoffrey Palmer discusses rights, the RMA and threats to democracy Sir Geoffrey Palmer discusses rights, the RMA and threats to democracy Wed, 26 Oct 2022 16:00:00 GMT 34:44 Buzzsprout-11571232 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4d1ddbe06b3a037b6a 6a21eb4d1ddbe06b3a037b6a 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 1 6 We met with former Prime Minister Sir Geoffrey at the gorgeous Wellington law building. Our cameraman Thomas said during the interview he was admiring all the books Geoffrey had collected in his big library when to his surprise he realised all the books were written by Geoffrey! This epitomises Geoffrey Palmer, he carries an incomprehensible amount of knowledge and has contributed more to legislation in New Zealand than just about anyone. Both Eve and I thoroughly enjoyed his new book written with his granddaughter, ‘Democracy now Aoteoroa’. One thing both Eve and I agreed with was his disenfranchisement at the rise in ‘slactivism’. This is where people think they are helping a movement by posting on social media but real change on the ground takes giving time or money. 

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]]> We met with former Prime Minister Sir Geoffrey at the gorgeous Wellington law building. Our cameraman Thomas said during the interview he was admiring all the books Geoffrey had collected in his big library when to his surprise he realised all the books were written by Geoffrey! This epitomises Geoffrey Palmer, he carries an incomprehensible amount of knowledge and has contributed more to legislation in New Zealand than just about anyone. Both Eve and I thoroughly enjoyed his new book written with his granddaughter, ‘Democracy now Aoteoroa’. One thing both Eve and I agreed with was his disenfranchisement at the rise in ‘slactivism’. This is where people think they are helping a movement by posting on social media but real change on the ground takes giving time or money. 

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]]> Climate Change Minister James Shaw Speed Round Climate Change Minister James Shaw Speed Round Mon, 24 Oct 2022 00:00:00 GMT 2:10 Buzzsprout-11549940 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4abe8560e74b436587 6a21eb4abe8560e74b436587 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 bonus 1 5

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]]> Climate Change Minister James Shaw discusses his Green Party Co Leadership, Farming and the Environment Climate Change Minister James Shaw discusses his Green Party Co Leadership, Farming and the Environment Sun, 23 Oct 2022 16:00:00 GMT 39:41 Buzzsprout-11549932 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb461ddbe06b3a0379d5 6a21eb461ddbe06b3a0379d5 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 1 5

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]]> Shane Jones Speed Round Shane Jones Speed Round Thu, 20 Oct 2022 00:00:00 GMT 4:08 Buzzsprout-11533402 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4c17f169d64306123b 6a21eb4c17f169d64306123b 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 bonus 1 4

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]]> Shane Jones on leaving Labour, New Zealand first and Co Governance Shane Jones on leaving Labour, New Zealand first and Co Governance Wed, 19 Oct 2022 17:00:00 GMT 42:29 Buzzsprout-11530783 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4f17f169d643061304 6a21eb4f17f169d643061304 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 1 4 Shane Jones was the most straight up interview we had. This made for one of the easiest conversations of the series. Shane talked to us about his time in both the Labour Party and New Zealand First. He provided an insight into New Zealand First and his thoughts on the liberal movement that is becoming increasingly intertwined with New Zealand Politics. 

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]]> Shane Jones was the most straight up interview we had. This made for one of the easiest conversations of the series. Shane talked to us about his time in both the Labour Party and New Zealand First. He provided an insight into New Zealand First and his thoughts on the liberal movement that is becoming increasingly intertwined with New Zealand Politics. 

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]]> Dame Jenny Shipley Speed Round Dame Jenny Shipley Speed Round Mon, 17 Oct 2022 03:00:00 GMT 3:44 Buzzsprout-11512113 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4ae25fe33c7c70a630 6a21eb4ae25fe33c7c70a630 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 bonus 1 3

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]]> Dame Jenny Shipley discusses women in leadership, the Treaty and making decisions Dame Jenny Shipley discusses women in leadership, the Treaty and making decisions Sun, 16 Oct 2022 16:00:00 GMT 1:04:25 Buzzsprout-11507399 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb521ddbe06b3a037c49 6a21eb521ddbe06b3a037c49 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 1 3

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]]> Hon Chris Hipkins Speed Round Hon Chris Hipkins Speed Round Thu, 13 Oct 2022 00:00:00 GMT 1:17 Buzzsprout-11489462 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4ae25fe33c7c70a5fb 6a21eb4ae25fe33c7c70a5fb 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 bonus 1 2

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]]> Hon Chris Hipkins on Labour, Democracy and Big Brother Hon Chris Hipkins on Labour, Democracy and Big Brother Wed, 12 Oct 2022 16:00:00 GMT 39:51 Buzzsprout-11483247 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb501ddbe06b3a037bee 6a21eb501ddbe06b3a037bee 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 1 2

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]]> Sir John Key Speed Round Sir John Key Speed Round Sun, 09 Oct 2022 23:00:00 GMT 2:37 Buzzsprout-11467791 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb42ac951431d78a61e5 6a21eb42ac951431d78a61e5 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 bonus 1 1

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]]> Sir John Key Sir John Key Sun, 09 Oct 2022 16:00:00 GMT 49:45 Buzzsprout-11464368 false https://shows.acast.com/both-sides-now/episodes/6a21eb4ee25fe33c7c70a760 6a21eb4ee25fe33c7c70a760 6a21eb3b1ddbe06b3a037619 full 1 1 This was one of the most epic conversations both Eve and I have had. We could have talked to John for hours, we both came away with hundreds more questions we wanted to ask and a even more respect for John and his legacy. Finn got a chance to debate with John on tax and inequality and Eve was able to pull to the surface the polices John wished he had been able to get across. This was one of the interviews where we wished we had he camera rolling before and after as John was super open with us about his views on current politicians around the world. It was great to hear about John’s respect for Jacinda. John really encapsulated a lot of what we are trying to do with the podcast around being great mates with the other side of the political spectrum, e.g. playing plenty of golf with Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and being good friends with both of them but being open about the fact he wouldn’t vote for them. Tune in for this conversation with one of New Zealand's greatest leaders!  

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]]> This was one of the most epic conversations both Eve and I have had. We could have talked to John for hours, we both came away with hundreds more questions we wanted to ask and a even more respect for John and his legacy. Finn got a chance to debate with John on tax and inequality and Eve was able to pull to the surface the polices John wished he had been able to get across. This was one of the interviews where we wished we had he camera rolling before and after as John was super open with us about his views on current politicians around the world. It was great to hear about John’s respect for Jacinda. John really encapsulated a lot of what we are trying to do with the podcast around being great mates with the other side of the political spectrum, e.g. playing plenty of golf with Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and being good friends with both of them but being open about the fact he wouldn’t vote for them. Tune in for this conversation with one of New Zealand's greatest leaders!  

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