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]]>CrimeCon UK brings together victims’ families, advocates, investigators, forensic experts and leading podcast creators—all committed to using storytelling to inform, empower and create meaningful change.
This year’s guests include Gabby Petito’s family and Claire Throssell MBE, who have transformed unimaginable personal loss into powerful advocacy for others.
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]]>CrimeCon UK brings together victims’ families, advocates, investigators, forensic experts and leading podcast creators—all committed to using storytelling to inform, empower and create meaningful change.
This year’s guests include Gabby Petito’s family and Claire Throssell MBE, who have transformed unimaginable personal loss into powerful advocacy for others.
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]]>CrimeCon UK brings together victims’ families, advocates, investigators, forensic experts and leading podcast creators—all committed to using storytelling to inform, empower and create meaningful change.
This year’s guests include Gabby Petito’s family and Claire Throssell MBE, who have transformed unimaginable personal loss into powerful advocacy for others.
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Use code FERRIS at checkout for a discount.
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]]>CrimeCon UK brings together victims’ families, advocates, investigators, forensic experts and leading podcast creators—all committed to using storytelling to inform, empower and create meaningful change.
This year’s guests include Gabby Petito’s family and Claire Throssell MBE, who have transformed unimaginable personal loss into powerful advocacy for others.
Book tickets:
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Use code FERRIS at checkout for a discount.
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]]>On April 20, 1999, two students arrived at Columbine High School intending to bomb the school. When their bombs failed, they opened fire.
At the time, 12 students and one teacher were killed. In February 2025, Columbine survivor Anne Marie Hochhalter died from complications linked to the gunshot wounds she sustained during the attack. Her death was later ruled a homicide, bringing the recognised death toll to 13 students and one teacher — 14 victims in total.
In this episode, Sarah Ferris and Katherine Schweit speak with Frank DeAngelis, the former principal of Columbine High School.
Frank takes us back inside the school on the day of the attack and shares what it was like to lead a community through unimaginable violence, grief and trauma.
But this conversation is about far more than the events of April 20.
Frank explains how the impact of a school shooting continues long after the emergency vehicles, investigators and television cameras leave. The psychological wounds spread through students, teachers, families, first responders and the wider community — and for many, those wounds last a lifetime.
He also reflects on the responsibility he felt toward the Columbine community, the promises he made to the families and why his role did not simply end when he retired as principal.
This is a conversation about leadership, survivor guilt, recovery, school safety and the human consequences that cannot be measured by casualty numbers alone.
It is also a reminder that behind every statistic is a person, a family and a life forever altered.
Let’s Be FrankFrank discusses school security, hardening targets and why safety measures can go too far when they begin to change schools from welcoming places into fortresses:
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000669832290
This bonus episode includes excerpts from a longer conversation with Frank that were not included in the original episode.
Please follow Stop the Killing wherever you listen to podcasts for more conversations with Frank DeAngelis and more than 200 episodes examining mass shootings, school safety, active-shooter response, prevention, survival and the people left carrying the consequences.
And stay following Watching Two Detectives for Season Six:
Biddy: I’m So Shiny, I Can Twinkle Like a Star.
The story of ten-year-old Bridget “Biddy” Porter, the warning signs before her murder and the family fighting to give their daughter back the name, story and voice that were taken from her.
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]]>On April 20, 1999, two students arrived at Columbine High School intending to bomb the school. When their bombs failed, they opened fire.
At the time, 12 students and one teacher were killed. In February 2025, Columbine survivor Anne Marie Hochhalter died from complications linked to the gunshot wounds she sustained during the attack. Her death was later ruled a homicide, bringing the recognised death toll to 13 students and one teacher — 14 victims in total.
In this episode, Sarah Ferris and Katherine Schweit speak with Frank DeAngelis, the former principal of Columbine High School.
Frank takes us back inside the school on the day of the attack and shares what it was like to lead a community through unimaginable violence, grief and trauma.
But this conversation is about far more than the events of April 20.
Frank explains how the impact of a school shooting continues long after the emergency vehicles, investigators and television cameras leave. The psychological wounds spread through students, teachers, families, first responders and the wider community — and for many, those wounds last a lifetime.
He also reflects on the responsibility he felt toward the Columbine community, the promises he made to the families and why his role did not simply end when he retired as principal.
This is a conversation about leadership, survivor guilt, recovery, school safety and the human consequences that cannot be measured by casualty numbers alone.
It is also a reminder that behind every statistic is a person, a family and a life forever altered.
Let’s Be FrankFrank discusses school security, hardening targets and why safety measures can go too far when they begin to change schools from welcoming places into fortresses:
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000669832290
This bonus episode includes excerpts from a longer conversation with Frank that were not included in the original episode.
Please follow Stop the Killing wherever you listen to podcasts for more conversations with Frank DeAngelis and more than 200 episodes examining mass shootings, school safety, active-shooter response, prevention, survival and the people left carrying the consequences.
And stay following Watching Two Detectives for Season Six:
Biddy: I’m So Shiny, I Can Twinkle Like a Star.
The story of ten-year-old Bridget “Biddy” Porter, the warning signs before her murder and the family fighting to give their daughter back the name, story and voice that were taken from her.
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]]>On May 24, 2022, a gunman entered Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, killing 19 children and two teachers and injuring 17 others.
This episode was recorded just two days after the Uvalde school shooting, while information was still emerging and before the full, deeply troubling picture of the police response became known.
Sarah Ferris is joined by Katherine Schweit, former head of the FBI’s Active Shooter Program, to examine what was understood in those first 48 hours.
They discuss the gunman’s movements before the attack, his social-media activity, warning behaviours, access to firearms, the early questions surrounding school security and the initial reports of a lengthy delay before officers entered the classroom.
Katherine also challenges some of the misinformation and conspiracy theories that appeared almost immediately after the shooting and explains how to identify reliable information during a rapidly unfolding investigation.
The conversation explores why blaming mass shootings solely on mental illness is both misleading and unsupported by research, the difference between mental illness and urgent emotional distress, and the importance of recognising concerning behaviour before violence occurs.
Because this episode captures the immediate aftermath, some early information discussed was later corrected or clarified. As official investigations progressed, Stop the Killing returned to Uvalde several times to examine the police response, command failures, active-shooter protocols and the legal questions surrounding accountability.
Uvalde, Texas — Robb Elementary School MassacreThe original episode recorded immediately after the shooting:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000564101644
Bonus 4: Uvalde UpdateKatherine examines the emerging timeline, the delay in confronting the shooter and the question of who was in command:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000567936043
The Uvalde Shooting — A Comprehensive AnalysisA detailed reconstruction based on the US Department of Justice Critical Incident Review, including the 77-minute delay and systemic failures in leadership, communication and command:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000746309846
Uvalde Trial Verdict: What the Decision Really MeansKatherine explains the legal outcome, what the verdict established and why criminal, civil and command accountability are not the same:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000746304659
This episode is being shared on the Watching Two Detectives feed to give listeners a taste of the more than 200 episodes available from Stop the Killing.
Please follow Stop the Killing wherever you listen to podcasts for more expert-led conversations about mass shootings, active-shooter response, prevention, survival and the human impact left behind.
Next week on Watching Two Detectives, we’ll share a powerful conversation with Frank DeAngelis, former principal of Columbine High School, about April 20, 1999, the attack’s aftermath and the psychological scars carried by the Columbine community decades later.
Continue the Uvalde deep dive
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]]>On May 24, 2022, a gunman entered Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, killing 19 children and two teachers and injuring 17 others.
This episode was recorded just two days after the Uvalde school shooting, while information was still emerging and before the full, deeply troubling picture of the police response became known.
Sarah Ferris is joined by Katherine Schweit, former head of the FBI’s Active Shooter Program, to examine what was understood in those first 48 hours.
They discuss the gunman’s movements before the attack, his social-media activity, warning behaviours, access to firearms, the early questions surrounding school security and the initial reports of a lengthy delay before officers entered the classroom.
Katherine also challenges some of the misinformation and conspiracy theories that appeared almost immediately after the shooting and explains how to identify reliable information during a rapidly unfolding investigation.
The conversation explores why blaming mass shootings solely on mental illness is both misleading and unsupported by research, the difference between mental illness and urgent emotional distress, and the importance of recognising concerning behaviour before violence occurs.
Because this episode captures the immediate aftermath, some early information discussed was later corrected or clarified. As official investigations progressed, Stop the Killing returned to Uvalde several times to examine the police response, command failures, active-shooter protocols and the legal questions surrounding accountability.
Uvalde, Texas — Robb Elementary School MassacreThe original episode recorded immediately after the shooting:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000564101644
Bonus 4: Uvalde UpdateKatherine examines the emerging timeline, the delay in confronting the shooter and the question of who was in command:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000567936043
The Uvalde Shooting — A Comprehensive AnalysisA detailed reconstruction based on the US Department of Justice Critical Incident Review, including the 77-minute delay and systemic failures in leadership, communication and command:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000746309846
Uvalde Trial Verdict: What the Decision Really MeansKatherine explains the legal outcome, what the verdict established and why criminal, civil and command accountability are not the same:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000746304659
This episode is being shared on the Watching Two Detectives feed to give listeners a taste of the more than 200 episodes available from Stop the Killing.
Please follow Stop the Killing wherever you listen to podcasts for more expert-led conversations about mass shootings, active-shooter response, prevention, survival and the human impact left behind.
Next week on Watching Two Detectives, we’ll share a powerful conversation with Frank DeAngelis, former principal of Columbine High School, about April 20, 1999, the attack’s aftermath and the psychological scars carried by the Columbine community decades later.
Continue the Uvalde deep dive
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]]>The conversation begins with the information we still do not know about the Bondi Beach mass shooting — and why pending court proceedings, privacy laws and suppression orders can limit what is released to the public.
Katherine, Scott and Peter examine the growing pressure for instant answers after major crimes, the spread of conspiracy theories and the new challenge facing investigators: artificial intelligence making it increasingly difficult to know whether video, images and evidence shared online are real.
They also reflect on the extraordinary courage shown during the attack. Bondi lifesavers ran towards danger with first-aid kits while shots were still being fired. Ordinary people protected strangers, carried the injured and made decisions in seconds that may have saved lives.
But what about those who freeze?
Katherine explains why fight, flight and freeze are all normal human responses — and why nobody can truly know how they will react until they are placed in that situation. Her advice is clear: your first responsibility is to survive and return home to the people who love you.
The episode then turns to the personal mission behind both podcasts.
Katherine reflects on leaving the FBI but never leaving the work behind, and on how Stop the Killing restored some of her faith in humanity by creating a community of listeners who want answers, solutions and practical ways to make their communities safer.
Scott and Peter explore the emotional toll of law enforcement, the coping mechanisms officers develop and why bringing humanity back into these conversations matters.
This final episode also considers how victims should be spoken about. Behind every statistic is a person, a family and a life permanently changed.
This is the final chapter of the five-part Stop the Killing x Watching Two Detectives crossover — a series about the Bondi Beach mass shooting, police response, misinformation, courage, survival and prevention.
Because this is more than true crime.
It is a mission.
Over the next few weeks, both podcast feeds will continue the crossover. Watching Two Detectives will feature selected episodes from the more than 200 episodes of Stop the Killing, while Stop the Killing will share the first two episodes of the award-winning first season of Watching Two Detectives.
Follow both podcasts to hear more powerful, victim-focused stories and expert conversations designed to inform, challenge and help keep people safer.
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]]>The conversation begins with the information we still do not know about the Bondi Beach mass shooting — and why pending court proceedings, privacy laws and suppression orders can limit what is released to the public.
Katherine, Scott and Peter examine the growing pressure for instant answers after major crimes, the spread of conspiracy theories and the new challenge facing investigators: artificial intelligence making it increasingly difficult to know whether video, images and evidence shared online are real.
They also reflect on the extraordinary courage shown during the attack. Bondi lifesavers ran towards danger with first-aid kits while shots were still being fired. Ordinary people protected strangers, carried the injured and made decisions in seconds that may have saved lives.
But what about those who freeze?
Katherine explains why fight, flight and freeze are all normal human responses — and why nobody can truly know how they will react until they are placed in that situation. Her advice is clear: your first responsibility is to survive and return home to the people who love you.
The episode then turns to the personal mission behind both podcasts.
Katherine reflects on leaving the FBI but never leaving the work behind, and on how Stop the Killing restored some of her faith in humanity by creating a community of listeners who want answers, solutions and practical ways to make their communities safer.
Scott and Peter explore the emotional toll of law enforcement, the coping mechanisms officers develop and why bringing humanity back into these conversations matters.
This final episode also considers how victims should be spoken about. Behind every statistic is a person, a family and a life permanently changed.
This is the final chapter of the five-part Stop the Killing x Watching Two Detectives crossover — a series about the Bondi Beach mass shooting, police response, misinformation, courage, survival and prevention.
Because this is more than true crime.
It is a mission.
Over the next few weeks, both podcast feeds will continue the crossover. Watching Two Detectives will feature selected episodes from the more than 200 episodes of Stop the Killing, while Stop the Killing will share the first two episodes of the award-winning first season of Watching Two Detectives.
Follow both podcasts to hear more powerful, victim-focused stories and expert conversations designed to inform, challenge and help keep people safer.
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]]>Together, they examine the police response to the Bondi Beach terror attack, the speed at which a mass shooting can unfold, and the impossible decisions officers must make in the first few minutes of an active-shooter incident.
The conversation explores the difference between directed terrorism, inspired terrorism and independently motivated attackers, as well as the danger of extremist propaganda and livestreamed violence inspiring future attacks.
Scott and Peter also address the misinformation that spread online in the immediate aftermath of Bondi. Images of wounded officers taking cover were used to accuse them of cowardice, while a photograph of a female officer directing civilians away from danger was falsely framed as surrender.
Katherine explains why social-media snapshots cannot show what an officer was seeing, what intelligence they had or what tactical decisions they were being forced to make.
The episode then turns to the extraordinary actions of Detective Senior Constable Cesar Barraza, the plain-clothes detective who confronted attackers armed with long guns from approximately 40 to 45 metres away.
Katherine, Scott and Peter break down the difficulty of making accurate handgun shots over that distance, under extreme pressure, with civilians and fellow officers still in danger.
This is not Hollywood. Real officers have limited ammunition. Real decisions are made in seconds. And real lives were saved.
This episode is Part Four of a five-part Stop the Killing x Watching Two Detectives crossover examining the Bondi Beach mass shooting, the police response, the human cost and the lessons that may help prevent future violence.
This is not about politics.
It is about facts, response and prevention.
Follow both Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives so you do not miss the final episode in the series.
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]]>Together, they examine the police response to the Bondi Beach terror attack, the speed at which a mass shooting can unfold, and the impossible decisions officers must make in the first few minutes of an active-shooter incident.
The conversation explores the difference between directed terrorism, inspired terrorism and independently motivated attackers, as well as the danger of extremist propaganda and livestreamed violence inspiring future attacks.
Scott and Peter also address the misinformation that spread online in the immediate aftermath of Bondi. Images of wounded officers taking cover were used to accuse them of cowardice, while a photograph of a female officer directing civilians away from danger was falsely framed as surrender.
Katherine explains why social-media snapshots cannot show what an officer was seeing, what intelligence they had or what tactical decisions they were being forced to make.
The episode then turns to the extraordinary actions of Detective Senior Constable Cesar Barraza, the plain-clothes detective who confronted attackers armed with long guns from approximately 40 to 45 metres away.
Katherine, Scott and Peter break down the difficulty of making accurate handgun shots over that distance, under extreme pressure, with civilians and fellow officers still in danger.
This is not Hollywood. Real officers have limited ammunition. Real decisions are made in seconds. And real lives were saved.
This episode is Part Four of a five-part Stop the Killing x Watching Two Detectives crossover examining the Bondi Beach mass shooting, the police response, the human cost and the lessons that may help prevent future violence.
This is not about politics.
It is about facts, response and prevention.
Follow both Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives so you do not miss the final episode in the series.
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]]>This episode looks at the six-minute attack, the police response, the tactical realities of the scene, and the extraordinary bravery of civilians who intervened while others were still under fire.
This is not a political discussion about the Israel-Palestine conflict. It is a factual look at one specific mass shooting incident, the motives and climate around it, and the lessons that may help prevent future attacks.
Stop the Killing on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489
Watching Two Detectives on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/watching-two-detectives/id1740792484
Watching Two Detectives Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/wtd
Stop the Killing Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/stopthekilling
Listening on the Stop the Killing feed? Head over to Watching Two Detectives, subscribe and discover the four seasons waiting for you.
Listening on Watching Two Detectives? Search for Stop the Killing, subscribe and explore more than 300 episodes examining mass shootings, prevention, survival and the people working to create meaningful change.
Please follow both shows and leave a five-star review wherever you listen. Your support helps us continue producing these independent, expert-led conversations.
Join us next week for Part Three: the Bondi Beach killings through the expert lenses of Katherine Schweit, Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan.
This episode contains discussions of mass shootings, suicide, firearms, murder victims and human remains. Listener discretion is advised.
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]]>This episode looks at the six-minute attack, the police response, the tactical realities of the scene, and the extraordinary bravery of civilians who intervened while others were still under fire.
This is not a political discussion about the Israel-Palestine conflict. It is a factual look at one specific mass shooting incident, the motives and climate around it, and the lessons that may help prevent future attacks.
Stop the Killing on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489
Watching Two Detectives on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/watching-two-detectives/id1740792484
Watching Two Detectives Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/wtd
Stop the Killing Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/stopthekilling
Listening on the Stop the Killing feed? Head over to Watching Two Detectives, subscribe and discover the four seasons waiting for you.
Listening on Watching Two Detectives? Search for Stop the Killing, subscribe and explore more than 300 episodes examining mass shootings, prevention, survival and the people working to create meaningful change.
Please follow both shows and leave a five-star review wherever you listen. Your support helps us continue producing these independent, expert-led conversations.
Join us next week for Part Three: the Bondi Beach killings through the expert lenses of Katherine Schweit, Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan.
This episode contains discussions of mass shootings, suicide, firearms, murder victims and human remains. Listener discretion is advised.
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]]>In this special crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, former FBI Special Agent Katherine Schweit joins retired New South Wales detectives Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan for an expert examination of the lessons that have reshaped mass-shooting prevention, preparation and police response.
Katherine was working on national security and counterterrorism cases when the murder of 20 children and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School changed the direction of her career. Following the shooting, she was appointed to the White House team tasked with developing a coordinated national response to mass shootings and became the architect of the FBI’s Active Shooter Program.
In Part One, Katherine explains how the devastating events at Sandy Hook helped accelerate a fundamental change in policing: moving away from the traditional strategy of “contain, negotiate and wait” towards the immediate deployment of officers to confront and stop an active threat.
Peter and Scott reveal how those lessons travelled across the world and influenced Australian policing. They discuss the introduction of New South Wales Police’s Active Armed Offender training, the impact of the 2014 Lindt Café siege and the confronting reality of preparing ordinary frontline officers to run towards attackers armed with military-style weapons.
Together, they explore:
Why active-shooter incidents can be over within minutes
The extraordinary risks faced by the first officers entering the scene
Why an active shooter and a mass shooting are not always the same thing
Why workplaces—not schools—account for many active-shooter attacks in the United States
The challenges of negotiating with attackers driven by extremist or ideological motives
Why warning signs must be recognised and reported before violence begins
How information shared by one student helped prevent a planned school shooting
Why measuring the attacks that never happened is so important
Katherine also shares the remarkable story of the message that reminded her why Stop the Killing must continue: a school vice principal who credited the podcast with helping her team recognise the warning signs and prevent a planned attack.
This conversation lays the groundwork for the next part of the series, when Katherine, Peter and Scott turn their attention to the December 14, 2025 Bondi Beach terrorist attack, examining the actions of the attackers, civilians and responding officers through their combined FBI and Australian policing experience. The attack targeted a Hanukkah celebration and killed 15 people.
This is not simply a conversation about what happened. It is a conversation about what has been learned, what has changed—and what still needs to change to stop the next attack.
Listen now to Part One of this special multi-part crossover.
Stop the Killing on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489
Watching Two Detectives on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/watching-two-detectives/id1740792484
Watching Two Detectives Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/wtd
Stop the Killing Patreon:GUNS, SUICIDE AND THE WOMEN WHO TALK TO THE DEAD — PART TWO
In Part Two of this special crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, former FBI Special Agent Katherine Schweit continues her conversation with retired New South Wales detectives Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan.
Before the team turns its attention to the Bondi Beach killings, they take a deeper look at the realities that sit behind conversations about firearms, mass violence and public safety.
Katherine explains why she wrote Stop the Killing: A Simple Guide to the Second Amendment and why productive conversations about guns in the United States have become so difficult. With hundreds of millions of firearms already in circulation, she argues that prevention has to begin with the laws, risks and realities that currently exist—not the world people wish existed.
The conversation also examines one of the most overlooked parts of America’s firearms crisis: suicide. Katherine explains that the majority of firearm deaths in the United States are self-inflicted, raising difficult questions about access to weapons during moments of crisis and how firearms can turn a temporary period of distress into an irreversible outcome.
Peter, Scott and Katherine discuss:
Why active-shooter attacks and other forms of mass violence are not directly comparable
How the weapon used can dramatically change the number of casualties
The difference between bolt-action, semi-automatic and automatic firearms
Why Australia’s firearms restrictions mattered during the Bondi Beach attack
How the elevated firing position at Bondi could have produced an even greater loss of life if different weapons had been available
What the 2017 Las Vegas mass shooting demonstrates about firing speed, distance and crowd density
Why statistics must be properly explained rather than used to support a predetermined argument
The conversation then moves from mass-shooting prevention to another extraordinary investigation from Katherine’s career.
Katherine introduces her book Women Who Talk to the Dead, which follows Detroit detective Shannon Jones and FBI forensic specialist Leslie Larsen as they uncover a connection between missing-person investigations and unidentified murder victims buried in paupers’ graves.
What begins with one detective searching through decades-old paper files develops into the largest exhumation of murder victims ever undertaken by the FBI.
Katherine reveals how a team of female detectives, prosecutors, forensic anthropologists and investigators volunteered their expertise and time to recover remains, obtain DNA and finally return names to people who had been unidentified for decades.
Peter also reflects on his own experience working alongside a forensic anthropologist during the painstaking exhumation of a murder victim—and why a line in a news report stating that investigators “exhumed the body and obtained DNA” can never capture the time, care and expertise that work truly requires.
This episode is about the human realities hidden behind the statistics: the people lost to firearms, the investigators who carry the responsibility of finding answers and the extraordinary work required to give unidentified victims their names back.
And after two episodes of expert discussion, the stage is now set.
In Part Three, Katherine Schweit, Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan turn their combined FBI and New South Wales policing experience towards the Bondi Beach killings and examine the events of that tragic day.
Stop the Killing on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489
Watching Two Detectives on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/watching-two-detectives/id1740792484
Watching Two Detectives Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/wtd
Stop the Killing Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/stopthekilling
Listening on the Stop the Killing feed? Head over to Watching Two Detectives, subscribe and discover the four seasons waiting for you.
Listening on Watching Two Detectives? Search for Stop the Killing, subscribe and explore more than 300 episodes examining mass shootings, prevention, survival and the people working to create meaningful change.
Please follow both shows and leave a five-star review wherever you listen. Your support helps us continue producing these independent, expert-led conversations.
Join us next week for Part Three: the Bondi Beach killings through the expert lenses of Katherine Schweit, Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan.
This episode contains discussions of mass shootings, suicide, firearms, murder victims and human remains. Listener discretion is advised.
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]]>In this special crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, former FBI Special Agent Katherine Schweit joins retired New South Wales detectives Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan for an expert examination of the lessons that have reshaped mass-shooting prevention, preparation and police response.
Katherine was working on national security and counterterrorism cases when the murder of 20 children and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School changed the direction of her career. Following the shooting, she was appointed to the White House team tasked with developing a coordinated national response to mass shootings and became the architect of the FBI’s Active Shooter Program.
In Part One, Katherine explains how the devastating events at Sandy Hook helped accelerate a fundamental change in policing: moving away from the traditional strategy of “contain, negotiate and wait” towards the immediate deployment of officers to confront and stop an active threat.
Peter and Scott reveal how those lessons travelled across the world and influenced Australian policing. They discuss the introduction of New South Wales Police’s Active Armed Offender training, the impact of the 2014 Lindt Café siege and the confronting reality of preparing ordinary frontline officers to run towards attackers armed with military-style weapons.
Together, they explore:
Why active-shooter incidents can be over within minutes
The extraordinary risks faced by the first officers entering the scene
Why an active shooter and a mass shooting are not always the same thing
Why workplaces—not schools—account for many active-shooter attacks in the United States
The challenges of negotiating with attackers driven by extremist or ideological motives
Why warning signs must be recognised and reported before violence begins
How information shared by one student helped prevent a planned school shooting
Why measuring the attacks that never happened is so important
Katherine also shares the remarkable story of the message that reminded her why Stop the Killing must continue: a school vice principal who credited the podcast with helping her team recognise the warning signs and prevent a planned attack.
This conversation lays the groundwork for the next part of the series, when Katherine, Peter and Scott turn their attention to the December 14, 2025 Bondi Beach terrorist attack, examining the actions of the attackers, civilians and responding officers through their combined FBI and Australian policing experience. The attack targeted a Hanukkah celebration and killed 15 people.
This is not simply a conversation about what happened. It is a conversation about what has been learned, what has changed—and what still needs to change to stop the next attack.
Listen now to Part One of this special multi-part crossover.
Stop the Killing on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489
Watching Two Detectives on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/watching-two-detectives/id1740792484
Watching Two Detectives Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/wtd
Stop the Killing Patreon:GUNS, SUICIDE AND THE WOMEN WHO TALK TO THE DEAD — PART TWO
In Part Two of this special crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, former FBI Special Agent Katherine Schweit continues her conversation with retired New South Wales detectives Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan.
Before the team turns its attention to the Bondi Beach killings, they take a deeper look at the realities that sit behind conversations about firearms, mass violence and public safety.
Katherine explains why she wrote Stop the Killing: A Simple Guide to the Second Amendment and why productive conversations about guns in the United States have become so difficult. With hundreds of millions of firearms already in circulation, she argues that prevention has to begin with the laws, risks and realities that currently exist—not the world people wish existed.
The conversation also examines one of the most overlooked parts of America’s firearms crisis: suicide. Katherine explains that the majority of firearm deaths in the United States are self-inflicted, raising difficult questions about access to weapons during moments of crisis and how firearms can turn a temporary period of distress into an irreversible outcome.
Peter, Scott and Katherine discuss:
Why active-shooter attacks and other forms of mass violence are not directly comparable
How the weapon used can dramatically change the number of casualties
The difference between bolt-action, semi-automatic and automatic firearms
Why Australia’s firearms restrictions mattered during the Bondi Beach attack
How the elevated firing position at Bondi could have produced an even greater loss of life if different weapons had been available
What the 2017 Las Vegas mass shooting demonstrates about firing speed, distance and crowd density
Why statistics must be properly explained rather than used to support a predetermined argument
The conversation then moves from mass-shooting prevention to another extraordinary investigation from Katherine’s career.
Katherine introduces her book Women Who Talk to the Dead, which follows Detroit detective Shannon Jones and FBI forensic specialist Leslie Larsen as they uncover a connection between missing-person investigations and unidentified murder victims buried in paupers’ graves.
What begins with one detective searching through decades-old paper files develops into the largest exhumation of murder victims ever undertaken by the FBI.
Katherine reveals how a team of female detectives, prosecutors, forensic anthropologists and investigators volunteered their expertise and time to recover remains, obtain DNA and finally return names to people who had been unidentified for decades.
Peter also reflects on his own experience working alongside a forensic anthropologist during the painstaking exhumation of a murder victim—and why a line in a news report stating that investigators “exhumed the body and obtained DNA” can never capture the time, care and expertise that work truly requires.
This episode is about the human realities hidden behind the statistics: the people lost to firearms, the investigators who carry the responsibility of finding answers and the extraordinary work required to give unidentified victims their names back.
And after two episodes of expert discussion, the stage is now set.
In Part Three, Katherine Schweit, Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan turn their combined FBI and New South Wales policing experience towards the Bondi Beach killings and examine the events of that tragic day.
Stop the Killing on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489
Watching Two Detectives on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/watching-two-detectives/id1740792484
Watching Two Detectives Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/wtd
Stop the Killing Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/stopthekilling
Listening on the Stop the Killing feed? Head over to Watching Two Detectives, subscribe and discover the four seasons waiting for you.
Listening on Watching Two Detectives? Search for Stop the Killing, subscribe and explore more than 300 episodes examining mass shootings, prevention, survival and the people working to create meaningful change.
Please follow both shows and leave a five-star review wherever you listen. Your support helps us continue producing these independent, expert-led conversations.
Join us next week for Part Three: the Bondi Beach killings through the expert lenses of Katherine Schweit, Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan.
This episode contains discussions of mass shootings, suicide, firearms, murder victims and human remains. Listener discretion is advised.
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]]>In this special crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, former FBI Special Agent Katherine Schweit joins retired New South Wales detectives Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan for an expert examination of the lessons that have reshaped mass-shooting prevention, preparation and police response.
Katherine was working on national security and counterterrorism cases when the murder of 20 children and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School changed the direction of her career. Following the shooting, she was appointed to the White House team tasked with developing a coordinated national response to mass shootings and became the architect of the FBI’s Active Shooter Program.
In Part One, Katherine explains how the devastating events at Sandy Hook helped accelerate a fundamental change in policing: moving away from the traditional strategy of “contain, negotiate and wait” towards the immediate deployment of officers to confront and stop an active threat.
Peter and Scott reveal how those lessons travelled across the world and influenced Australian policing. They discuss the introduction of New South Wales Police’s Active Armed Offender training, the impact of the 2014 Lindt Café siege and the confronting reality of preparing ordinary frontline officers to run towards attackers armed with military-style weapons.
Together, they explore:
Why active-shooter incidents can be over within minutes
The extraordinary risks faced by the first officers entering the scene
Why an active shooter and a mass shooting are not always the same thing
Why workplaces—not schools—account for many active-shooter attacks in the United States
The challenges of negotiating with attackers driven by extremist or ideological motives
Why warning signs must be recognised and reported before violence begins
How information shared by one student helped prevent a planned school shooting
Why measuring the attacks that never happened is so important
Katherine also shares the remarkable story of the message that reminded her why Stop the Killing must continue: a school vice principal who credited the podcast with helping her team recognise the warning signs and prevent a planned attack.
This conversation lays the groundwork for the next part of the series, when Katherine, Peter and Scott turn their attention to the December 14, 2025 Bondi Beach terrorist attack, examining the actions of the attackers, civilians and responding officers through their combined FBI and Australian policing experience. The attack targeted a Hanukkah celebration and killed 15 people.
This is not simply a conversation about what happened. It is a conversation about what has been learned, what has changed—and what still needs to change to stop the next attack.
Listen now to Part One of this special multi-part crossover.
Stop the Killing on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489
Watching Two Detectives on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/watching-two-detectives/id1740792484
Watching Two Detectives Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/wtd
Stop the Killing Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/stopthekilling
Please follow both podcasts and leave a five-star review wherever you listen. Your support helps us continue producing independent investigations, sharing the experiences of survivors and law-enforcement professionals, and creating conversations that may genuinely help save lives.
Join us for Part Two, when the experts begin their examination of the Bondi Beach attack.
This episode contains discussions of mass shootings, terrorism, child victims and traumatic events. Listener discretion is advised.
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]]>In this special crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, former FBI Special Agent Katherine Schweit joins retired New South Wales detectives Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan for an expert examination of the lessons that have reshaped mass-shooting prevention, preparation and police response.
Katherine was working on national security and counterterrorism cases when the murder of 20 children and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School changed the direction of her career. Following the shooting, she was appointed to the White House team tasked with developing a coordinated national response to mass shootings and became the architect of the FBI’s Active Shooter Program.
In Part One, Katherine explains how the devastating events at Sandy Hook helped accelerate a fundamental change in policing: moving away from the traditional strategy of “contain, negotiate and wait” towards the immediate deployment of officers to confront and stop an active threat.
Peter and Scott reveal how those lessons travelled across the world and influenced Australian policing. They discuss the introduction of New South Wales Police’s Active Armed Offender training, the impact of the 2014 Lindt Café siege and the confronting reality of preparing ordinary frontline officers to run towards attackers armed with military-style weapons.
Together, they explore:
Why active-shooter incidents can be over within minutes
The extraordinary risks faced by the first officers entering the scene
Why an active shooter and a mass shooting are not always the same thing
Why workplaces—not schools—account for many active-shooter attacks in the United States
The challenges of negotiating with attackers driven by extremist or ideological motives
Why warning signs must be recognised and reported before violence begins
How information shared by one student helped prevent a planned school shooting
Why measuring the attacks that never happened is so important
Katherine also shares the remarkable story of the message that reminded her why Stop the Killing must continue: a school vice principal who credited the podcast with helping her team recognise the warning signs and prevent a planned attack.
This conversation lays the groundwork for the next part of the series, when Katherine, Peter and Scott turn their attention to the December 14, 2025 Bondi Beach terrorist attack, examining the actions of the attackers, civilians and responding officers through their combined FBI and Australian policing experience. The attack targeted a Hanukkah celebration and killed 15 people.
This is not simply a conversation about what happened. It is a conversation about what has been learned, what has changed—and what still needs to change to stop the next attack.
Listen now to Part One of this special multi-part crossover.
Stop the Killing on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489
Watching Two Detectives on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/watching-two-detectives/id1740792484
Watching Two Detectives Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/wtd
Stop the Killing Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/stopthekilling
Please follow both podcasts and leave a five-star review wherever you listen. Your support helps us continue producing independent investigations, sharing the experiences of survivors and law-enforcement professionals, and creating conversations that may genuinely help save lives.
Join us for Part Two, when the experts begin their examination of the Bondi Beach attack.
This episode contains discussions of mass shootings, terrorism, child victims and traumatic events. Listener discretion is advised.
This is a Sarah Ferris Media on the Killer Podcasts Network
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]]>CONmunity Podcast | Season Two: The BADmiral
A $3.75 billion international search-and-rescue organisation. Admirals from around the globe. A mission that promised purpose — and pay.
But what happens when the story doesn’t quite add up?
From the creator of Stop the Killing and Klooghless: The Long Con, Sarah Ferris takes listeners on an 18-month global investigation to uncover the truth behind an organisation that may not be all it seems.
🎙️ THE BADmiral is Season Two of CONmunity Podcast — and all episodes are available now.
Start with Episodes 1 & 2 wherever you get your podcasts — or binge the entire season ad-free right now on:
👉 Apple Podcasts
👉 Patreon.com/CONmunity
⚓️ Follow the investigation. Meet the people who believed. And discover why seeing deception while you’re in it can feel like trying to catch smoke in your hands.
Produced by Sarah Ferris Media on the Killer Podcasts Network
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Stop the Killing
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]]>CONmunity Podcast | Season Two: The BADmiral
A $3.75 billion international search-and-rescue organisation. Admirals from around the globe. A mission that promised purpose — and pay.
But what happens when the story doesn’t quite add up?
From the creator of Stop the Killing and Klooghless: The Long Con, Sarah Ferris takes listeners on an 18-month global investigation to uncover the truth behind an organisation that may not be all it seems.
🎙️ THE BADmiral is Season Two of CONmunity Podcast — and all episodes are available now.
Start with Episodes 1 & 2 wherever you get your podcasts — or binge the entire season ad-free right now on:
👉 Apple Podcasts
👉 Patreon.com/CONmunity
⚓️ Follow the investigation. Meet the people who believed. And discover why seeing deception while you’re in it can feel like trying to catch smoke in your hands.
Produced by Sarah Ferris Media on the Killer Podcasts Network
Check out more Sarah Ferris Media productions:
Stop the Killing
Klooghless – The Long Con
The Bravery Academy
Guilty Greenie
📧 Contact: conningthecon@yahoo.com
🌐 Website: Sarah Ferris Media
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]]>THE PILE
In the emotional conclusion of this two-part series, retired NYPD detectives and hosts of the Gold Shields podcast, Tom Smith and Dan Murphy, return to share their powerful, firsthand accounts of working at Ground Zero after the September 11th attacks.
From the chaotic initial response to the somber days of recovery, this episode paints an unflinching portrait of resilience, grief, and determination. Tom and Dan recount their experiences of climbing the searing-hot rubble, organizing rescue efforts, and the profound toll the events of 9/11 took on their lives and careers.
As Tom and Dan reflect on the immense responsibility of joining the Joint Terrorism Task Force in the wake of 9/11, they emphasize the strength of camaraderie and the enduring commitment to ensure "never again."
Subscribers can access an exclusive bonus episode now, where Tom Smith shares a chilling story about stopping an imminent school shooting at his own children's high school. Available on Apple Podcasts and Patreon.
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]]>THE PILE
In the emotional conclusion of this two-part series, retired NYPD detectives and hosts of the Gold Shields podcast, Tom Smith and Dan Murphy, return to share their powerful, firsthand accounts of working at Ground Zero after the September 11th attacks.
From the chaotic initial response to the somber days of recovery, this episode paints an unflinching portrait of resilience, grief, and determination. Tom and Dan recount their experiences of climbing the searing-hot rubble, organizing rescue efforts, and the profound toll the events of 9/11 took on their lives and careers.
As Tom and Dan reflect on the immense responsibility of joining the Joint Terrorism Task Force in the wake of 9/11, they emphasize the strength of camaraderie and the enduring commitment to ensure "never again."
Subscribers can access an exclusive bonus episode now, where Tom Smith shares a chilling story about stopping an imminent school shooting at his own children's high school. Available on Apple Podcasts and Patreon.
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]]>BEFORE THE TOWERS FELL
In the first episode of this gripping two-part series, retired NYPD detectives and hosts of the Gold Shields podcast, Tom Smith and Dan Murphy, join Watching Two Detectives to take us deep into the heart of New York City during one of its most turbulent eras.
From the chaos of Times Square in the 80s and 90s to life on the frontlines of the city’s gang wars, Tom and Dan reflect on their journey as detectives during a time when the city saw staggering crime rates and unprecedented challenges. These stories lay the groundwork for the seismic shift in their careers: the September 11th attacks, which reshaped their lives and the world forever.
Join us as we uncover the lives of two detectives who faced some of the darkest moments in modern history with courage and determination.
Early access to Episode 2, THE PILE, is available now on Apple Podcasts and Patreon. Subscribers also get exclusive behind-the-scenes content.
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]]>BEFORE THE TOWERS FELL
In the first episode of this gripping two-part series, retired NYPD detectives and hosts of the Gold Shields podcast, Tom Smith and Dan Murphy, join Watching Two Detectives to take us deep into the heart of New York City during one of its most turbulent eras.
From the chaos of Times Square in the 80s and 90s to life on the frontlines of the city’s gang wars, Tom and Dan reflect on their journey as detectives during a time when the city saw staggering crime rates and unprecedented challenges. These stories lay the groundwork for the seismic shift in their careers: the September 11th attacks, which reshaped their lives and the world forever.
Join us as we uncover the lives of two detectives who faced some of the darkest moments in modern history with courage and determination.
Early access to Episode 2, THE PILE, is available now on Apple Podcasts and Patreon. Subscribers also get exclusive behind-the-scenes content.
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]]>Podcast Description:
In this gripping conclusion to the Macquarie Fields Riots series, hosts Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan continue their deep dive into one of Sydney's most notorious civil unrest incidents. Retired Senior Constable Andrew Murphy returns to give us the full picture of the aftermath of the tragic police pursuit that ended in the deaths of two young men. What followed was not just a community in grief but a full-scale riot, inflamed by rumors that police had rammed the stolen vehicle, leading to weeks of violent unrest.
Murphy recounts the harrowing days and nights on the frontlines, from being hit by bricks to enduring Molotov cocktails and the dangerous misinformation that spread like wildfire through the streets. With sniper overwatch and police units under siege, this episode explores the extreme tensions between law enforcement and the public.
Key themes include the rise of mob mentality, false narratives perpetuated by those seeking vengeance, and the lasting impact on the officers involved.
Key Episode Highlights:
Guest:
Retired Senior Constable Andrew Murphy
A first-hand witness to the Macquarie Fields Riots, Andrew Murphy returns to provide more details about the chaotic events and the ongoing challenges faced by officers during one of the most infamous riots in Australian history.
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]]>Podcast Description:
In this gripping conclusion to the Macquarie Fields Riots series, hosts Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan continue their deep dive into one of Sydney's most notorious civil unrest incidents. Retired Senior Constable Andrew Murphy returns to give us the full picture of the aftermath of the tragic police pursuit that ended in the deaths of two young men. What followed was not just a community in grief but a full-scale riot, inflamed by rumors that police had rammed the stolen vehicle, leading to weeks of violent unrest.
Murphy recounts the harrowing days and nights on the frontlines, from being hit by bricks to enduring Molotov cocktails and the dangerous misinformation that spread like wildfire through the streets. With sniper overwatch and police units under siege, this episode explores the extreme tensions between law enforcement and the public.
Key themes include the rise of mob mentality, false narratives perpetuated by those seeking vengeance, and the lasting impact on the officers involved.
Key Episode Highlights:
Guest:
Retired Senior Constable Andrew Murphy
A first-hand witness to the Macquarie Fields Riots, Andrew Murphy returns to provide more details about the chaotic events and the ongoing challenges faced by officers during one of the most infamous riots in Australian history.
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]]>Podcast Description: In the Season 3 premiere of Watching Two Detectives, hosts Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan take us back to one of the most turbulent events in recent Australian history: The Macquarie Fields Riots. On February 25, 2005, the quiet streets of this Sydney suburb erupted into chaos following a fatal police pursuit. What started as a tragic car accident quickly escalated into a full-scale riot, with angry locals hurling bricks, bottles, and rage at the vastly outnumbered police force.
Joining the conversation is Retired Senior Constable Andrew Murphy, who was on the frontlines that fateful night. Murphy shares firsthand accounts of the critical incident, offering an insider’s perspective on the dangerous dynamics that led to the riots and the police's struggle to regain control. He recounts the hailstorm of bricks, his own injuries, and the relentless efforts to secure the crime scene amidst civil unrest.
We also dive into the months-long investigation that led to the police pursuit and the tragic deaths of two young men. Strikeforce Durden, headed by Scott Rogan, had been tracking a notorious gang involved in violent armed robberies across Sydney, leading to the fateful chase and the riots.
Key Episode Highlights:
Guest:
Retired Senior Constable Andrew Murphy
Murphy served on the front lines during the Macquarie Fields riots and brings an unparalleled firsthand perspective. His candid recounting of that night highlights the extreme conditions officers faced while trying to maintain order.
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]]>Podcast Description: In the Season 3 premiere of Watching Two Detectives, hosts Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan take us back to one of the most turbulent events in recent Australian history: The Macquarie Fields Riots. On February 25, 2005, the quiet streets of this Sydney suburb erupted into chaos following a fatal police pursuit. What started as a tragic car accident quickly escalated into a full-scale riot, with angry locals hurling bricks, bottles, and rage at the vastly outnumbered police force.
Joining the conversation is Retired Senior Constable Andrew Murphy, who was on the frontlines that fateful night. Murphy shares firsthand accounts of the critical incident, offering an insider’s perspective on the dangerous dynamics that led to the riots and the police's struggle to regain control. He recounts the hailstorm of bricks, his own injuries, and the relentless efforts to secure the crime scene amidst civil unrest.
We also dive into the months-long investigation that led to the police pursuit and the tragic deaths of two young men. Strikeforce Durden, headed by Scott Rogan, had been tracking a notorious gang involved in violent armed robberies across Sydney, leading to the fateful chase and the riots.
Key Episode Highlights:
Guest:
Retired Senior Constable Andrew Murphy
Murphy served on the front lines during the Macquarie Fields riots and brings an unparalleled firsthand perspective. His candid recounting of that night highlights the extreme conditions officers faced while trying to maintain order.
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]]>Season 3 of Watching Two Detectives is coming on October 30th! This season delves into the explosive Macquarie Fields Riots. It all began with a stolen car and ended with two lives lost, igniting days of unrest. Join us as we unravel this pivotal moment in Australian law enforcement history.
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]]>Season 3 of Watching Two Detectives is coming on October 30th! This season delves into the explosive Macquarie Fields Riots. It all began with a stolen car and ended with two lives lost, igniting days of unrest. Join us as we unravel this pivotal moment in Australian law enforcement history.
Early Access for Subscribers Want in early? Subscribe on Apple or Patreon to get both episodes a week before the official release, on October 23rd. Plus, subscribers get an exclusive behind-the-mics bonus episode the following week – offering a deeper look into the making of the season and the events that shaped it.
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]]>Episode 3, the final of Season 3, titled "Farewell" delves into the far-reaching consequences of Youbert Hormozi's murder. The detectives continue to close in on the suspects, but the emotional toll of the case becomes increasingly apparent. Through the poignant reflections of Melina Hormozi, listeners gain insight into how her father's death set off a chain of events that would change her life forever.
As the investigation reaches a critical point, the pressure mounts. The detectives race against time to prevent further tragedy, knowing that the suspects are still at large and becoming more desperate by the hour. This episode highlights the profound impact that one crime can have on an entire community, as well as the unrelenting drive for justice that keeps the detectives going.
This is a powerful and emotional episode that you won’t want to miss. The story intensifies as we move closer to uncovering the full truth.
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]]>Episode 3, the final of Season 3, titled "Farewell" delves into the far-reaching consequences of Youbert Hormozi's murder. The detectives continue to close in on the suspects, but the emotional toll of the case becomes increasingly apparent. Through the poignant reflections of Melina Hormozi, listeners gain insight into how her father's death set off a chain of events that would change her life forever.
As the investigation reaches a critical point, the pressure mounts. The detectives race against time to prevent further tragedy, knowing that the suspects are still at large and becoming more desperate by the hour. This episode highlights the profound impact that one crime can have on an entire community, as well as the unrelenting drive for justice that keeps the detectives going.
This is a powerful and emotional episode that you won’t want to miss. The story intensifies as we move closer to uncovering the full truth.
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]]>In Episode 2 of Season 2, titled “ The Clock is Ticking” the mystery surrounding Youbert Hormozi's tragic death starts to unravel. Detectives Scott Rogan, Peter Hogan, and Clive Ainly dive deeper into the investigation, uncovering vital clues that bring them closer to the truth. As the pieces of the puzzle start to fit together, the detectives encounter unexpected challenges, but their determination never wavers.
This episode explores the critical early moments of the investigation, including eyewitness accounts and a shocking confession that turns the case on its head. Through the heartfelt words of Melina Hormozi, Youbert's daughter, we begin to understand the profound impact this crime had on those left behind. The tension builds as the detectives inch closer to identifying the perpetrators, but many questions still remain.
Don’t miss this crucial chapter in the story—a turning point in the investigation that will leave you on the edge of your seat.
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]]>In Episode 2 of Season 2, titled “ The Clock is Ticking” the mystery surrounding Youbert Hormozi's tragic death starts to unravel. Detectives Scott Rogan, Peter Hogan, and Clive Ainly dive deeper into the investigation, uncovering vital clues that bring them closer to the truth. As the pieces of the puzzle start to fit together, the detectives encounter unexpected challenges, but their determination never wavers.
This episode explores the critical early moments of the investigation, including eyewitness accounts and a shocking confession that turns the case on its head. Through the heartfelt words of Melina Hormozi, Youbert's daughter, we begin to understand the profound impact this crime had on those left behind. The tension builds as the detectives inch closer to identifying the perpetrators, but many questions still remain.
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]]>Season 2 of Watching Two Detectives is here, and it begins with "The Final Ride of Youbert Hormozi." On January 31, 2006, Youbert Hormozi, a dedicated and resilient taxi driver, embarked on what would tragically become his last shift. Despite battling significant health challenges, including heart attacks and a stroke, Youbert continued to work tirelessly to support his family. But that fateful night in the southwest Sydney suburb of Canley Heights would change everything.
Join retired detectives Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan, alongside their colleague Clive Ainley, as they revisit the chilling details of this unforgettable case. With the help of witnesses and the harrowing accounts of Youbert’s daughter, Melina, the investigation unfolds, revealing a night of terror that stunned the community.
This episode sets the stage for a season filled with unexpected twists, emotional depth, and the relentless pursuit of justice. Don’t miss out on the beginning of this gripping true crime journey.
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]]>Season 2 of Watching Two Detectives is here, and it begins with "The Final Ride of Youbert Hormozi." On January 31, 2006, Youbert Hormozi, a dedicated and resilient taxi driver, embarked on what would tragically become his last shift. Despite battling significant health challenges, including heart attacks and a stroke, Youbert continued to work tirelessly to support his family. But that fateful night in the southwest Sydney suburb of Canley Heights would change everything.
Join retired detectives Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan, alongside their colleague Clive Ainley, as they revisit the chilling details of this unforgettable case. With the help of witnesses and the harrowing accounts of Youbert’s daughter, Melina, the investigation unfolds, revealing a night of terror that stunned the community.
This episode sets the stage for a season filled with unexpected twists, emotional depth, and the relentless pursuit of justice. Don’t miss out on the beginning of this gripping true crime journey.
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]]>Introduction: Welcome to the fifth and final episode of Season 1 of "Watching Two Detectives." In this powerful conclusion, hosts Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan accompany Luke Furlong on an emotional journey to the crime scene where his father, Michael Furlong, was tragically murdered. This episode delves deep into the personal struggles and healing processes of Michael's family. Produced by Sarah Ferris Media, this episode is a poignant tribute to Michael’s memory and the enduring strength of his family.
Episode Summary: This episode marks a significant emotional milestone as Luke Furlong visits the scene of his father's murder for the first time. Throughout this heartfelt journey, we explore the themes of grief, healing, and resilience. Luke opens up about his anxieties, the lasting impact of his father's death, and the therapeutic value of confronting this painful part of his past. The episode also features insights from Clive Ainly, the detective who handled Michael’s case, providing closure and a deeper understanding of the events that unfolded.
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]]>Introduction: Welcome to the fifth and final episode of Season 1 of "Watching Two Detectives." In this powerful conclusion, hosts Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan accompany Luke Furlong on an emotional journey to the crime scene where his father, Michael Furlong, was tragically murdered. This episode delves deep into the personal struggles and healing processes of Michael's family. Produced by Sarah Ferris Media, this episode is a poignant tribute to Michael’s memory and the enduring strength of his family.
Episode Summary: This episode marks a significant emotional milestone as Luke Furlong visits the scene of his father's murder for the first time. Throughout this heartfelt journey, we explore the themes of grief, healing, and resilience. Luke opens up about his anxieties, the lasting impact of his father's death, and the therapeutic value of confronting this painful part of his past. The episode also features insights from Clive Ainly, the detective who handled Michael’s case, providing closure and a deeper understanding of the events that unfolded.
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]]>Introduction: Welcome to Episode 4 of Season 1 of "Watching Two Detectives," where hosts Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan continue their deep dive into the chilling murder of Michael Furlong. This episode sheds light on the enduring struggle of Michael’s family as they navigate the complexities of justice and mental health. This podcast is produced by Sarah Ferris Media and features guests Colline and Luke Furlong, along with Craig Ainly.
Episode Summary: In this poignant episode, we explore the aftermath of Michael Furlong's tragic death, focusing on his family's relentless pursuit of justice and closure. Key topics include the mental health tribunal processes, the challenges faced by victims' families, and the legal loopholes that allowed Michael's murderer, Sorrell, to change his name while in custody. The episode also highlights the emotional toll of repeated tribunal hearings and the family's fears and anxieties regarding Sorrel's potential release.
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]]>Introduction: Welcome to Episode 4 of Season 1 of "Watching Two Detectives," where hosts Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan continue their deep dive into the chilling murder of Michael Furlong. This episode sheds light on the enduring struggle of Michael’s family as they navigate the complexities of justice and mental health. This podcast is produced by Sarah Ferris Media and features guests Colline and Luke Furlong, along with Craig Ainly.
Episode Summary: In this poignant episode, we explore the aftermath of Michael Furlong's tragic death, focusing on his family's relentless pursuit of justice and closure. Key topics include the mental health tribunal processes, the challenges faced by victims' families, and the legal loopholes that allowed Michael's murderer, Sorrell, to change his name while in custody. The episode also highlights the emotional toll of repeated tribunal hearings and the family's fears and anxieties regarding Sorrel's potential release.
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]]>Introduction: Welcome to the third installment of Season One of "Watching Two Detectives." In this gripping episode, hosts Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan delve into the chilling murder of Michael Furlong. This episode features an in-depth discussion with Colline Furlong, Luke Furlong, and Craig Ainly, shedding light on the harrowing details and aftermath of the case.
Summary: The episode explores the tragic murder of Michael Furlong, unraveling the complexities behind the crime. Scott and Peter investigate the motivations and actions of the perpetrator, Michael Sorrell, whose delusions led to the brutal killing. The discussion also highlights the emotional and psychological impact on the Furlong family, addressing the challenges they faced during the investigation and trial.
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]]>Introduction: Welcome to the third installment of Season One of "Watching Two Detectives." In this gripping episode, hosts Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan delve into the chilling murder of Michael Furlong. This episode features an in-depth discussion with Colline Furlong, Luke Furlong, and Craig Ainly, shedding light on the harrowing details and aftermath of the case.
Summary: The episode explores the tragic murder of Michael Furlong, unraveling the complexities behind the crime. Scott and Peter investigate the motivations and actions of the perpetrator, Michael Sorrell, whose delusions led to the brutal killing. The discussion also highlights the emotional and psychological impact on the Furlong family, addressing the challenges they faced during the investigation and trial.
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]]>Hosts: Scott Rogan, Peter Hogan
Produced by: Sarah Ferris Media
Special Guests: Colline Furlong, Luke Furlong, Craig Ainly
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In this gripping second part of Watching Two Detectives, hosts Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan continue their exploration of the tragic and random murder of Michael Furlong. Returning to share more insights are Colline and Luke Furlong, Michael’s wife and son, along with Craig Ainly, the officer in charge of the investigation. This episode delves deeper into the harrowing details of the investigation and the impact on Michael's family.
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]]>Hosts: Scott Rogan, Peter Hogan
Produced by: Sarah Ferris Media
Special Guests: Colline Furlong, Luke Furlong, Craig Ainly
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In this gripping second part of Watching Two Detectives, hosts Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan continue their exploration of the tragic and random murder of Michael Furlong. Returning to share more insights are Colline and Luke Furlong, Michael’s wife and son, along with Craig Ainly, the officer in charge of the investigation. This episode delves deeper into the harrowing details of the investigation and the impact on Michael's family.
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]]>Hosts: Scott Rogan, Peter Hogan
Produced by: sarahferrismedia.com
Special Guests: Colline Furlong, Luke Furlong, Clive Ainly
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In this gripping episode of Watching Two Detectives, hosts Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan delve into the tragic and random murder of Michael Furlong on June 3rd, 2002. Joining them are Colline and Luke Furlong, Michael’s wife and son, along with Clive Ainly, the officer in charge of the investigation. This episode uncovers the harrowing details of a crime that left a family in turmoil and highlights the challenges faced by detectives handling such unpredictable cases.
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]]>Hosts: Scott Rogan, Peter Hogan
Produced by: sarahferrismedia.com
Special Guests: Colline Furlong, Luke Furlong, Clive Ainly
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In this gripping episode of Watching Two Detectives, hosts Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan delve into the tragic and random murder of Michael Furlong on June 3rd, 2002. Joining them are Colline and Luke Furlong, Michael’s wife and son, along with Clive Ainly, the officer in charge of the investigation. This episode uncovers the harrowing details of a crime that left a family in turmoil and highlights the challenges faced by detectives handling such unpredictable cases.
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]]>### Season One: "If Tomorrow Never Comes"
In our gripping first season, "If Tomorrow Never Comes," we unravel the chilling and complex murder of Michael Furlong. Unlike any crime story you've heard, this case twists on its axis with developments so shocking, they'd be dismissed as too unbelievable for a Hollywood script.
Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan are not just recounting the case; they're reopening the files with a personal connection that adds layers of depth and humanity to the narrative. Joined by the detective who led the investigation, Clive Ainly, this season offers unprecedented access to the people closest to the case. Michael's son Luke, who was only 11 at the time of his father's murder, and his ex-wife, Colleen, share their poignant journeys of seeking answers and closure.
### The Story That Grips Your Soul
This isn't just a recounting of facts; it's an exploration of the ripple effects of a single act of violence. From the crime scene that shook the detectives to their core to the heart-wrenching irony of Michael's last gift to his ex-wife—a CD featuring Ronan Keating's "If Tomorrow Never Comes"—this season brings you closer to the case than ever before.
### Why You Can't Miss This
- **Deep Dive**: Go beyond the headlines and the cold facts. Experience the human side of a true crime story, accompanied by those who lived through it.
- **Unprecedented Access**: Hear directly from the detectives who worked the case and the family members still seeking answers.
- **Shocking Twists**: Just when you think you've understood the case, new revelations emerge, each more surprising than the last.
### Subscribe Now
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**Watching Two Detectives: If Tomorrow Never Comes** is more than just a true crime podcast; it's a quest for justice, understanding, and closure. Join Scott Rogan, Peter Hogan, and their guests as they delve into a case that forever changed their lives and may just change yours, too.
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]]>### Season One: "If Tomorrow Never Comes"
In our gripping first season, "If Tomorrow Never Comes," we unravel the chilling and complex murder of Michael Furlong. Unlike any crime story you've heard, this case twists on its axis with developments so shocking, they'd be dismissed as too unbelievable for a Hollywood script.
Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan are not just recounting the case; they're reopening the files with a personal connection that adds layers of depth and humanity to the narrative. Joined by the detective who led the investigation, Clive Ainly, this season offers unprecedented access to the people closest to the case. Michael's son Luke, who was only 11 at the time of his father's murder, and his ex-wife, Colleen, share their poignant journeys of seeking answers and closure.
### The Story That Grips Your Soul
This isn't just a recounting of facts; it's an exploration of the ripple effects of a single act of violence. From the crime scene that shook the detectives to their core to the heart-wrenching irony of Michael's last gift to his ex-wife—a CD featuring Ronan Keating's "If Tomorrow Never Comes"—this season brings you closer to the case than ever before.
### Why You Can't Miss This
- **Deep Dive**: Go beyond the headlines and the cold facts. Experience the human side of a true crime story, accompanied by those who lived through it.
- **Unprecedented Access**: Hear directly from the detectives who worked the case and the family members still seeking answers.
- **Shocking Twists**: Just when you think you've understood the case, new revelations emerge, each more surprising than the last.
### Subscribe Now
Don't miss out on this compelling journey through the shadows of the past into the light of truth. Subscribe now on all usual podcast platforms, and stay up-to-date with the latest information on launch dates by following us on Instagram [@conmunitypodcast](https://www.instagram.com/conmunitypodcast) and visiting [www.sarahferrismedia.com](http://www.sarahferrismedia.com).
**Watching Two Detectives: If Tomorrow Never Comes** is more than just a true crime podcast; it's a quest for justice, understanding, and closure. Join Scott Rogan, Peter Hogan, and their guests as they delve into a case that forever changed their lives and may just change yours, too.
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