In this deeply moving episode of Chasing Joy, we sit down with Kevin Clark, a father who has spent the last 27 years caring for his daughter with a rare and severe neurological condition. What began as unimaginable hardship became something else entirely… a path toward purpose, presence, and a redefinition of what it means to live a meaningful life.

Kevin shares the reality of full-time caregiving, the emotional weight of uncertainty, and the daily challenges of raising a child with lifelong disabilities. But more importantly, he reveals how mindfulness, resilience, and surrendering control can transform even the hardest circumstances into something unexpectedly beautiful.

This conversation explores themes of parenting, suffering, mental health, personal growth, and the quiet strength required to keep showing up… day after day.

If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed, burned out, or uncertain about your path, this episode offers a powerful reminder… joy isn’t found by avoiding struggle… it’s discovered within it.

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After spending four weeks in the remote desert of Abiquiú, New Mexico, Wayne returns with a deeper understanding of spiritual direction… or what he calls soul companionship. Instead of fixing problems or offering advice, this practice centers on something far more rare… sitting with someone in their pain, listening deeply, and creating space for clarity to emerge.

Together, the guys unpack what it means to “sit in the fire” with someone… why most of us are moving too fast for our own well-being… and how learning to slow down might be the key to healing, connection, and a more meaningful life.

From personal stories of trauma and transformation to practical reflections on mindfulness, grief, and emotional awareness, this conversation invites you to pause… breathe… and reconnect with what actually matters.

Whether you’re navigating stress, searching for purpose, or simply feeling overwhelmed by the pace of life in the modern world… this episode offers a different path forward.

Less fixing… more listening.

More presence… more joy.

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In this episode of Chasing Joy, Bryan's former colleague Gary Vaughn joins Spencer, Bryan, and Wayne to tell the story of how he went from managing products in the cable industry to secretly trading stocks, retiring at 49, watching his net worth crater during COVID, and rebuilding everything... this time with a microphone. Gary turned a podcast that started with 3 listeners into a thriving business, not by chasing an audience, but by sharing what he actually knew.

Along the way, the conversation digs into why most people overcomplicate investing, what a $10,000 bet on Apple in 2004 looks like today, why making mistakes is the real tuition of life, and how a guy who once had HR policies written specifically because of him ended up finding his happiest moments on the couch with his dog. This one bridges the worlds of financial freedom and personal fulfillment... and the gap between them might be smaller than you think.

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In this episode of Chasing Joy, we sit down with Hillary Gordon, Director of Marketing for Southern California’s independent radio station 88.5 The SoCal Sound. Hillary has spent years building a career in the creative and unpredictable world of radio and music media, a path that often rewards curiosity, resilience, and a willingness to take risks.

Rather than following a conventional roadmap toward stability and financial security, Hillary has consistently chosen opportunities that offered creativity, connection, and meaningful experiences. Her approach reflects a different philosophy of success… one centered on living a life rich in stories rather than possessions.

Throughout the conversation, we explore what it means to pursue a creative career, why passion and curiosity often matter more than certainty, and how stepping outside the safe path can open doors to unexpected growth. Hillary shares insights from her journey through the radio industry, along with the lessons she has learned about risk, creativity, and building a life aligned with your values.

This episode also reflects on a powerful idea that guides Hillary’s outlook on life. Instead of striving to leave the world with the largest bank account possible, she hopes to leave it having fully spent her time on experiences that mattered.

If you have ever questioned the traditional definition of success, or wondered whether there is a more meaningful way to build a life and career, this conversation offers thoughtful perspective and encouragement to keep chasing curiosity, creativity, and joy.

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In this episode of Chasing Joy, Bryan, Spencer, and Wayne sit down with entrepreneur and mentor Jeff Brady to explore the difference between financial success and a life built with intention.

Jeff’s story starts in an unlikely place… a clueless college graduate cold-calling for commission sales. Through goal-setting, mentorship, and relentless persistence, he eventually built a successful company, raised a thriving family, and discovered a deeper calling… helping young professionals design meaningful lives before they get stuck in the wrong career.

Along the way, Jeff shares lessons on work ethic, networking, and the surprising power of simply asking people for guidance. Today, he mentors young adults using a pay-it-forward philosophy that has helped dozens land their dream jobs and build lives aligned with their values.

This conversation explores:

• The difference between money and meaning

• Why most young professionals don’t know what they don’t know

• The lost art of networking and mentorship

• How goal-setting can shape an entire life

• Why designing your life early matters more than chasing success later

If you’ve ever wondered how to build a career, raise a family, and still pursue joy… this episode is a powerful reminder that success isn’t something you stumble into.

It’s something you design.

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George opens up about serving in Fallujah, working with veterans and first responders, and the hidden weight of being both therapist and patient. He shares candidly about PTSD, imposter syndrome, taking stress leave when he felt himself slipping, and the constant internal voice of “you’re not enough.”

The conversation explores what it means to outgrow former versions of yourself… how suffering shapes growth… why commonality may be the antidote to division… and how mindfulness, curiosity, and even skipping down a hallway can help regulate overwhelming emotion.

This episode is about breaking cycles, becoming the parent you needed, and learning to extend compassion to yourself... even when it’s easier to give it to everyone else.

Honest. Vulnerable. Human.

Chasing after that Joy.

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When wildfire destroyed Marko DeSantis’ home — along with decades of music history, rare memorabilia, journals, and family heirlooms — he was forced to confront a brutal question: Is your identity tied to what you own?

Marko (Sugarcult, The Ataris, Nerf Herder) opens up about the night his house burned down, the viral image of his wife’s recovered engagement ring, and the surprising clarity that followed.

This is a conversation about:

• Letting go

• Living forward

• Memory vs. material

• Rebuilding with intention

• And finding growth in fire

Sometimes what feels like destruction… is the opening of a pine cone.

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Rather than debating ideas or amplifying opinions, this episode reflects on what it means to show up physically and intentionally... choosing presence, restraint, and humility over performance or persuasion. The walk becomes a way to examine uncertainty, emotional tension, and the challenge of standing alongside others without needing agreement or resolution.

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In this episode, Spencer, Bryan, and Wayne are joined by Joel Miller, author, lifelong rock roadie, and host of the Party Like a Rock Star podcast, for a conversation that completely flips the narrative on social media.

If you’ve listened to the show before, you know Spencer is famously skeptical of social media and the chaos it brings. This time, the tables turn. Joel is living proof that social platforms can actually be used for something better… connection, encouragement, and creative joy.

Joel shares stories from his years on the road with legendary acts like Stone Temple Pilots and Ozzy Osbourne, and how those experiences shaped his voice, perspective, and sense of purpose. From backstage chaos to viral reaction videos watched by over a million people each month, Joel breaks down what it really takes to build an audience without losing your soul.

Along the way, the conversation dives into creativity, humor, loss, resilience, and why purpose matters more than popularity. There are laughs, unexpected insights, and a few moments that might make you rethink how you show up online… and offline.

Whether you love social media, hate it, or feel stuck somewhere in between, this episode is a reminder that joy can still be shared loudly, generously, and authentically… even in the noisiest places.

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Rather than treating change as something to fix or force, they explore the idea that transformation is already happening... constantly. Through humor, philosophy, and reflection, the conversation examines why resolutions often fail, how identity hardens over time, and what it means to shed the “armor” we’ve built just to survive.

This episode invites listeners to reconsider growth not as a grand reset, but as a rhythm—one shaped by awareness, intention, and small daily practices that reconnect us to what’s underneath the noise. If the new year has you questioning who you are, who you’ve become, or what no longer fits, this conversation offers a grounded, human place to start.

P.S. Bryan misatributed a saying from Heraclitus to Rene Decartes.

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Spencer enters the conversation without a script, navigating what it feels like when certainty fades, plans unravel, and the version of yourself that “had it together” no longer fits. Instead of offering answers, he allows the questions to stay open… revealing something quieter, more honest, and human.

For first-time listeners, this episode works as a standalone reflection on identity, pressure, and what we discover about ourselves when we stop performing and start paying attention. There’s humor here, vulnerability, and the kind of clarity that only shows up when someone is willing to sit with discomfort instead of rushing past it.

You don’t need to know Spencer to recognize yourself in this conversation.

You just need to be curious about what happens when you slow down long enough to listen.

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This episode offers a practical reflection on stress, decision-making, and discovering joy not by controlling life, but by meeting it with clarity and awareness.

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Bryan talks about growing up between worlds, learning early that nothing stays the same, and why uncertainty isn’t something to conquer—it’s something to learn how to surf. The conversation bounces from flow states and surrender to systems, success, and the quiet realization that “making it” doesn’t always feel the way you thought it would.

Along the way, there are laughs, long friendships, backyard epiphanies, questionable road-trip decisions, and at least one story involving saving a naked guy from freezing to death. Because of course there is.

Less advice. More honesty.

This is Chasing Joy… with the hosts finally chasing their own origin stories.

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Together, the group explores creativity, ego, vulnerability, the psychology behind humor, and why comedians often understand joy (and suffering) on a deeper level than most. This episode is packed with laughter, real talk, unexpected insights, and a refreshing look at how joy is both crafted and discovered.

A must-listen for creatives, performers, and anyone trying to navigate their own inner critic on the path to fulfillment.

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With their signature mix of honesty, humor, and hard-won wisdom, the guys explore the moments that shake us awake, the resistance we feel when change arrives uninvited, and the unexpected joy that emerges when we stop gripping so tightly to certainty. If Episode 24 opened the door, Episode 25 walks through it—illuminating what it means to evolve, to let others see you, and to move toward a life that feels more aligned, more whole, and more you.

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They share how their connection began on a Facebook support thread, how grief reshaped their lives, and why speaking openly about addiction, stigma, and the realities families face has become their purpose. Through stories of courtrooms, care packages, spiritual signs, grandchildren, boundaries, nature, prayer, and showing up for one another, Katrina and Kristi remind us that grief and joy can coexist… and that hurt people can also become healers.

This conversation is raw, compassionate, and full of the kind of honesty that helps people feel less alone.

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She shares how recovery helped her break old patterns, confront hard truths and discover a deeper sense of contentment than she’s ever known. The conversation is heartfelt, sometimes funny, and always real… touching on forgiveness, identity, the 12 Steps, and the courage it takes to begin again.

Whether you’re in your own season of struggle or looking for grounded inspiration, Brittany’s story offers hope, clarity and the reminder that joy can grow in even the most fragile places.

Tune in.

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She comes back to dig even deeper into the real meaning of self care… not the commercial version we’re handed, but the kind that pulls us back into our bodies, our creativity, and our connection with each other. Together, we explore why the word health carries so much baggage, how creativity can become a lifeline, and why sharing something you’ve made can feel like an act of courage.

Shelby also reveals her new Creative Circle — an open space for music, poetry, drawing, and anything else that brings people back to themselves. It’s adult show and tell, but with soul.

This conversation moves from laughter to honesty to those moments where something slows down and everyone remembers what it means to be human. If you’ve been feeling disconnected… overwhelmed… or stuck in the “I’ll get healthy tomorrow” loop, this episode is a gentle doorway back to joy.

Tune in, sit with us, and let Shelby’s presence remind you that self care isn’t a task list… it’s an invitation.

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Through humor, honesty, and real-life reflection, the crew explores how awe, curiosity, and mindful pauses can help us meet change with creativity and peace.

If you’ve ever struggled to stay grounded when life feels unpredictable, this conversation is your reminder that even in chaos, joy — and a little grace — are still within reach.

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Spencer, Bryan, and Wayne sit down with Dr. Tipu Khan... a family physician from Ventura County who recently returned from Gaza after volunteering as an ER doctor in the middle of an active war zone.

What he shares isn’t easy to hear... but it’s real. Tipu talks about the conversations he had with his family before leaving... the letters he wrote to his children in case he didn’t make it home... and what it means to step into a place where even hospitals aren’t safe.

Through his firsthand stories, we hear about the staggering level of trauma unfolding every day... and the small, human moments that somehow keep people going. Children laughing and playing at the water truck. A wedding that fills a tent city with music. A stranger offering a warm meal to tired doctors.

This conversation moves through heavy, deeply human themes... the purpose of advocacy in medicine, the privilege of safety and stability, and the struggle to process suffering once you’ve seen it up close. Dr. Khan also shares his perspective on how narratives are shaped from afar... and how, even in the darkest places, simple acts of love and connection can begin to restore faith in humanity.

On the Ground in Gaza is a raw, unguarded look at what it means to stay human amid chaos... and a reminder that healing—personal and collective—often begins with small steps... taken with great love.

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What begins as playful banter quickly unfolds into one of the show’s most profound discussions: how our perspective shapes our reality, how our “measuring sticks” define what we value, and how shifting our view—even slightly—can change everything.

Bryan introduces the metaphor of the “joy diamond,” a lens through which every facet of life refracts a different truth. Wayne brings it down to earth with practical tools like breathwork, presence, and curiosity—reminding us that transformation starts with a single pause. Spencer challenges both with his trademark skepticism, grounding the philosophy in real-world struggle: bills, responsibility, and the chaos of everyday life.

Together they explore how we evolve, how to find serenity in the middle of crisis, and why joy is less about perfection and more about perspective.

A conversation on awareness, sustainability of the soul, and the courage to re-measure what truly matters.

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Shelby opens up about losing her mother while in nursing school, discovering songwriting as a way to process grief, and the profound moment she realized her soul was “dying” inside a career that no longer aligned with her values. Through stories of courage, self-discovery, and connection, she shares how leaving the safety of a “sensible” path led her toward a life of purpose—and how music became both her own medicine and a bridge to heal others.

With her ukulele in hand, Shelby gives the hosts (and all of us) a firsthand experience of the calm, presence, and emotion she brings to hospital rooms every day—where music can ease anxiety, unlock memory, and even spark miraculous awakenings.

From laughter about “death-metal therapy” to tears over the power of song, this episode is a beautiful reminder that joy often arrives when we quiet the noise, follow what feels alive, and allow ourselves to be instruments of healing.

Links to Shelby's Music:

Amazon

Spotify

Apple Music

For more information about music therapy, you can contact Shelby at Shelbymusictherapist@gmail.com.

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After years of 80-hour workweeks and corporate achievement, a single moment at a friend’s funeral, and two chance encounters at a charity event, set Doug on a new path. He went on to co-found the Ride for Autism Foundation, spending nearly two decades raising funds and awareness for families affected by autism. What started as an effort to give back became a transformative lesson in perspective, gratitude, and genuine connection.

Through candid stories and plenty of humor, Doug reflects on how giving to others fed his own soul, why joy requires daily intention, and how even a simple smile can change the course of someone’s day. The conversation explores the power of gratitude, the challenge of slowing down, and the truth that fulfillment isn’t found in more... but in meaning.

It’s a warm, thoughtful, and inspiring conversation that reminds us: sometimes joy isn’t something to chase... it’s something to share.

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Kyle opens up about how depression and anxiety ended his rock career—touring with the Smashing Pumpkins, performing on Conan, topping charts—yet became the doorway to healing, spirituality, and self-compassion. From ayahuasca journeys and silent retreats to confronting early trauma, he reframes depression not as a curse, but as a messenger pointing toward liberation.

Alongside Hillary’s grounded wisdom, we unpack:

• Why you can’t hate yourself into change
• How trauma gets stuck in the body (and how to release it)
• The difference between external success and inner freedom
• Why joy is often found in letting go, not adding more

Kyle also teases his next book, Thank God for Anxiety, and the spiritual practices behind it.

This is a conversation about healing, compassion, and finding joy in the very places we try to avoid.

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It started with a card in a Berkeley bookstore.

“The secret to getting everything you want is…” it read.

That simple line opened the door to a deeper conversation—about joy, about contentment, and about the quiet practice of wanting less.

In this episode, we talk about the difference between chasing more and being present to what already is. Wayne shares what he’s been learning through mindfulness, breathwork, and the strange but revealing experience of floating in a sensory deprivation tank. We talk about the awkwardness of tuning out the noise, the difficulty of sitting with your own thoughts, and the unexpected beauty in it all.

This one’s not about hacks or productivity. It’s about slowing down long enough to actually hear yourself think—and maybe even remember what matters.

If you're feeling stretched thin, or just curious about what contentment could look like in real life… this might be a good one to sit with.

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Spencer opens up about feeling like he’s “relapsed” in his journey of chasing joy, despite his best efforts, gratitude practices, and support systems. Together, the group explores the idea that joy isn’t a fixed destination but a continuous, ever-evolving journey—one that often requires redefining your measuring stick for happiness, building new boundaries, and learning how to surf life’s waves rather than control them.

Bryan and Wayne share insights on balance, boundaries, and the importance of community, while also highlighting how external pressures—from personal finances to world events—can dramatically shift our approaches to joy and contentment. The conversation is filled with metaphors (from music to surfing), humor, and vulnerability. Whether you’re navigating your own challenging season or simply looking to reconnect with what truly matters, this episode is a reminder that chasing joy is messy, ongoing, and, above all, a collective experience.

Tune in for practical wisdom, genuine laughs, and heartfelt moments as the Chasing Joy crew dives back in and invites you to join the journey.

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In this episode, we unpack the art and practice of deliberately cultivating joy in our daily lives. Josh shares his journey of moving from simply reacting to life’s challenges to proactively choosing joy, and how naming and exploring our emotions can help us find clarity and satisfaction. We talk about the difference between contentment and satisfaction, why curiosity and self-awareness matter, and the power of sitting with our feelings—rather than skipping past them.

Bryan brings up the concept of “hedonic adaptation,” stirring a deep discussion on why chasing the next best thing can sometimes leave us unfulfilled, and Wayne offers a nuanced look at how our mindset and environment shape our experience of happiness.

Whether you’re someone who finds joy in big achievements or in quiet contentment, this episode is full of practical wisdom—and plenty of laughs—that will inspire you to slow down, reflect, and make space for joy right where you are. Plus, you’ll get to hear about Josh’s take on toxic positivity, philosophy in everyday life, and maybe even pick up a new way to handle those inevitable flat tires on the road to happiness.

So grab your headphones, get cozy, and join us on this week’s episode of Chasing Joy as we explore what it really means to chase—and catch—joy in today’s world.

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But Russell’s journey is about far more than loss—it’s about acceptance and the relentless pursuit of joy. In an honest and uplifting conversation, he breaks down what it took to go from the depths of depression to becoming a beacon of hope for others facing spinal cord injuries and life’s curveballs. Joined by co-hosts Wayne and Bryan, this episode dives into how Russell uses social media to spark healing and awareness, the power of community and support, and the critical difference acceptance has made in his life. He shares not only the realities of radical dependence and adapting to a completely new way of living, but also how cultivating a positive mindset—and a strong circle of genuine connections—helps light the path forward.

Whether you’re facing adversity or just need a dose of perspective, Russell’s story is an inspiring reminder that we can find meaning and happiness, even in circumstances that seem impossible.

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Together, they explore feelings of guilt and privilege, discuss the complexities of ethical consumerism, and wrestle with whether there are any easy fixes to the problems today's youth inherit. But it's not all heavy—there’s plenty of laughter, personal reflection, and practical wisdom, including what makes for a truly "good day." The episode touches on everything from staying present and intentional, to the value of nurturing relationships, to questioning whether it's responsible to bring new life into an uncertain world. If you're curious about how the next generation is experiencing—and hoping to improve—the world, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.

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Ishaan opens up about tackling the complex landscape of coming of age during the pandemic, navigating academic pressures as a first-generation American, and the central role of community in finding real, lasting happiness. Together, the group dives into the ways technology shapes our relationships, the value—and double-edged sword—of social media, and how burnout shows up even in the college years.

With humor, honesty, and a healthy dose of generational perspective, today’s episode is about more than just chasing joy—it’s about defining it for yourself, staying connected to your support system, and finding wisdom in the journey, no matter where you are in life. Join us as we unpack lessons, share a few laughs, and seek advice from someone truly “in the thick of it.”

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From candid confessions about anxiety in something as mundane as grocery shopping, to his unfiltered take on trauma, therapy, and breaking the cycle with everything from psilocybin to ketamine treatments, Christian’s story is as unconventional as it is inspiring. Expect real talk about what joy means when the pursuit feels more like a battle, the relief of finding the right tools, and the ongoing work of integrating your truest self.

This episode dives into the raw realities of neurodivergence, finding purpose, and the science (and messiness) of healing—blending humor, heart, and a little bit of psychedelic insight. Strap in for the most “chasing” we’ve ever done on Chasing Joy!

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Samantha brings a therapist’s perspective, challenging us to examine core beliefs—like “I’m not good enough”—and introducing the powerful concept that “every judgment is a projection.” The discussion dives deep into the transformative potential of meditation, the inner observer, and practical ways to re-story our lives. With plenty of warmth (and a little humor), the group explores how practices like gratitude and sacred attention can truly reshape our daily experience. Whether you’re a mindfulness veteran or just meditation-curious, this episode serves up relatable stories, helpful frameworks, and plenty of inspiration for anyone chasing a bit more joy.

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Samantha offers a fresh perspective on how joy is cultivated from within, rather than pursued externally—sharing stories from her own practice and challenging the group to rethink unhealthy narratives and habits that block our paths to joy. The episode becomes interactive as Bryan volunteers for a breakthrough coaching session on his struggle with motivation, shining a light on the real-life barriers so many of us face when trying to make positive changes.

Rooted in humor, honesty, and practical wisdom, this episode explores the obstacles that keep us from our happiest, most authentic selves—and the tools we can use to get there. So whether you’re feeling stuck, searching for inspiration, or just looking for a few good laughs, get ready to join the pursuit of something deeper on Chasing Joy!

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The trio unpacks how algorithms reinforce our instant-gratification culture and keep us stuck in cycles of comparison, self-doubt, and echo chambers—and why breaking free from autopilot thinking is harder than ever. But it’s not all doom and gloom: the hosts share real, practical ways to reclaim presence and mindfulness, challenging you to reflect on your own motives when reaching for your phone and encouraging you to find your fit in an online world that often thrives on division.

If you’ve ever wondered how all that screen time is shaping your personal quest for joy, or if it’s even possible to want less in a world that’s always advertising more, this episode is for you. Join Chasing Joy as we unpack the noisy digital world and refocus on what it means to live—and connect—intentionally.

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The trio gets honest (and sometimes hilariously sidetracked) about learning from pain, setting boundaries, compulsive behaviors, and the importance of mindfulness and gratitude. They reflect on the power of service, the neuroscience behind giving, and the traps of chasing quick dopamine hits in a world full of distractions. If you’ve ever wondered if you’re missing the point on your own journey to happiness—or if all those “mistakes” are really just steps on the path—this episode will leave you thinking, laughing, and maybe even breathing a little deeper.

Settle in, get comfortable, and join us on Chasing Joy as we unpack the setbacks, breakthroughs, and little moments that make the search for happiness so worthwhile.

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You’ll hear candid stories, including a moving account from Wayne about navigating trauma and change within his own family, and moments of down-to-earth humor that keep things real. The guys explore how life’s curveballs, from health crises to burnout, can force us to rethink what joy really is—and where we find it.

Packed with practical tools, the episode highlights simple, powerful reminders: hydrate, get some sleep, and remember to check in with yourself—sometimes the road to happiness starts with meeting our basic needs. Bryan shares how even a short break in nature can reset your mind, while Wayne breaks down how self-awareness and “low power mode” can guide us to healthier patterns. It’s a perspective-shifting reminder that the little things can have a major impact on our wellbeing.

Tune in and join the conversation as the trio shares hard-won lessons, laughs, and small steps we can all take to move a little closer to joy—no perfection required.

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Drawing from their own diverse backgrounds in radio, education, and lived experience, the trio dives into powerful ideas: Is joy something we find outside ourselves, or is it within us all along? How do our perspectives and reactions shape our happiness, even when life isn’t perfect? And what happens when you reach “halftime” in life and realize you might want to play the second half differently than the first?

Blending humor, humility, and wisdom, they touch on the value of gratitude, the challenges of societal expectations, and the importance of telling stories—both our own and those of others. Whether you’re just starting out or deep into your journey, this episode sets the stage for a podcast that’s all about learning, growing, and maybe, just maybe, uncovering a little more joy together.

Tune in for a candid, relatable, and inspiring kick-off to Chasing Joy!

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