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			<title>Scott King on Showrunning, Story Structure, and Not Fitting In</title>
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			<itunes:subtitle>From Sarah Lawrence and Bubby’s to MADtv, Difficult People, and Overcompensating—how a lifelong TV nerd became the adult in the room.</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[Ron and West catch up with their old friend Scott King (head writer/showrunner: <em>MADtv</em>, <em>The Big Gay Sketch Show</em>, <em>Difficult People</em>, <em>Harlem</em>; co-showrunner of the new series <em>Overcompensating</em>) for a fast, funny deep dive into how TV actually gets made now. Scott breaks down the writers’ room vs. showrunner roles, why today’s shrinking outlets make greenlights tougher, and how notes, production, and post are really three more drafts of the script. They talk strikes, the “writer on set” problem, AI’s limits for comedy cadence, and the craft of turning specific, lived experience into something universal. Plus: Sarah Lawrence origins, Bubby’s memories, 4D <em>Jurassic World</em>, Andrea Martin love, John Waters sightings, and designing a creative life between Palm Springs, Key West, and (maybe) New York—complete with Botox poker face jokes and why owning a home isn’t the only definition of “stable.”<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ron and West catch up with their old friend Scott King (head writer/showrunner: <em>MADtv</em>, <em>The Big Gay Sketch Show</em>, <em>Difficult People</em>, <em>Harlem</em>; co-showrunner of the new series <em>Overcompensating</em>) for a fast, funny deep dive into how TV actually gets made now. Scott breaks down the writers’ room vs. showrunner roles, why today’s shrinking outlets make greenlights tougher, and how notes, production, and post are really three more drafts of the script. They talk strikes, the “writer on set” problem, AI’s limits for comedy cadence, and the craft of turning specific, lived experience into something universal. Plus: Sarah Lawrence origins, Bubby’s memories, 4D <em>Jurassic World</em>, Andrea Martin love, John Waters sightings, and designing a creative life between Palm Springs, Key West, and (maybe) New York—complete with Botox poker face jokes and why owning a home isn’t the only definition of “stable.”<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Midwifing Movements: On Art, Capitalism, and the Courage to Cultivate</title>
			<itunes:title>Midwifing Movements: On Art, Capitalism, and the Courage to Cultivate</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2025 13:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>A conversation with Uli Ortiz on analog creativity, responsible capitalism, and the radical joy of planting seeds</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this expansive and deeply personal conversation, Ron and West sit down with Uli Ortiz - a strategist, consultant, and self-described “entrepreneurial midwife” to talk about everything from the origins of the Lomographic Society to the slow beauty of gardening in the Catskills.</p><br><p>Uli shares how she transitioned from being a trained midwife in Austria to building creative ventures like Lomography USA and Studio 55, working at the intersection of art, culture, and entrepreneurship. Along the way, she explores what it means to truly support artists, why she’s pulling back from capitalism, and how storytelling and slowness might offer a path forward.</p><br><p>This episode touches on collective visioning, post-capitalist structures, and the sacred power of good ideas; especially when they’re carried, nourished, and eventually birthed into the world. Also discussed: meme coins, herbaceous metaphors, and Ron’s dream of founding a post-apocalyptic art school.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this expansive and deeply personal conversation, Ron and West sit down with Uli Ortiz - a strategist, consultant, and self-described “entrepreneurial midwife” to talk about everything from the origins of the Lomographic Society to the slow beauty of gardening in the Catskills.</p><br><p>Uli shares how she transitioned from being a trained midwife in Austria to building creative ventures like Lomography USA and Studio 55, working at the intersection of art, culture, and entrepreneurship. Along the way, she explores what it means to truly support artists, why she’s pulling back from capitalism, and how storytelling and slowness might offer a path forward.</p><br><p>This episode touches on collective visioning, post-capitalist structures, and the sacred power of good ideas; especially when they’re carried, nourished, and eventually birthed into the world. Also discussed: meme coins, herbaceous metaphors, and Ron’s dream of founding a post-apocalyptic art school.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2025 13:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Maggie De Silva on brunch chaos, pandemic pivots, and making art from life’s leftovers</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we sit down with our dear friend and early Bubby’s alum Maggie De Silva—artist, writer, brunch survivor, and jam-covered arm philosopher. Maggie takes us back to the very beginning of Bubby’s: before coffee, before hot food, before tables—just pie and a dream. We talk about eccentric Tribeca regulars (including a woman who ordered broth for her dog), surviving the infamous brunch shift, and how creativity lives in the margins of working parenthood.</p><br><p>Maggie also shares how losing a shared studio during the pandemic unexpectedly led her into installation art, why she’ll never hang certain pieces across from someone’s bed, and the joys of collecting weird objects and weirder stories. Along the way we cover JFK Jr., celebrity sightings, secret art hoards, outdoor cafés, artificial intelligence’s failure to replace real writers, and an unexpected tangent into babysitting, VHS porn, and the cow hoof cleaning algorithm of doom.</p><br><p>This one’s part nostalgia trip, part art world detour, and part tribute to making a life out of whatever scraps you’ve got lying around.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we sit down with our dear friend and early Bubby’s alum Maggie De Silva—artist, writer, brunch survivor, and jam-covered arm philosopher. Maggie takes us back to the very beginning of Bubby’s: before coffee, before hot food, before tables—just pie and a dream. We talk about eccentric Tribeca regulars (including a woman who ordered broth for her dog), surviving the infamous brunch shift, and how creativity lives in the margins of working parenthood.</p><br><p>Maggie also shares how losing a shared studio during the pandemic unexpectedly led her into installation art, why she’ll never hang certain pieces across from someone’s bed, and the joys of collecting weird objects and weirder stories. Along the way we cover JFK Jr., celebrity sightings, secret art hoards, outdoor cafés, artificial intelligence’s failure to replace real writers, and an unexpected tangent into babysitting, VHS porn, and the cow hoof cleaning algorithm of doom.</p><br><p>This one’s part nostalgia trip, part art world detour, and part tribute to making a life out of whatever scraps you’ve got lying around.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Adventures across time, art, and Salt Lake City bank robbers.</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this wide-ranging and hilarious episode of <em>{framed} Interviews</em>, old friends Ron, West, and Michael reunite for a storytelling session that drifts from the Beat Poets to Berlin art scenes, from BBC broadcasts of the Falklands War to a naked woman with a potato in Utah. Along the way, they unpack what it means to collect art, support artists, and chase meaning through creative obsession.</p><br><p>Featuring deep dives into German Neo-Expressionism, wild band tours, early MTV, and near-mythical tales of escape and reinvention, this episode is both a love letter to a life in the arts — and a reminder that some of the best stories are the ones too strange to make up.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title>Art is the Life: A Conversation with Jill Platner</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2025 12:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Friendship, metalwork, and the long arc of building a creative life.</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this intimate episode of <em>{framed} Interviews</em>, artist and jeweler <strong>Jill Platner</strong> joins longtime friends and co-hosts Ron Silver and West Moss for a conversation spanning decades of art, work, and community. From welding in rollerblades to creating kinetic outdoor sculptures and running a jewelry business in New York City, Jill reflects on what it means to live an artist’s life on your own terms.</p><p>Together, they discuss the early days of Bubby’s, shaping identity through work, the tension between art and capitalism, and how creative friendships evolve over time. This is a warm, deeply personal episode about making things—beautiful things—and building a life around them.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Cloe Galasso: Finding Home in the Studio</title>
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			<itunes:subtitle>On visas, canvases, and the energy that shapes a painter’s life</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[Argentine-born, Brooklyn-based artist <strong>Chloe Galasso</strong> joins us to talk about building an artist’s life after years of constant travel; landing an O-1 “talent” visa, setting up her first dedicated studio in years, and rediscovering routine. We dig into her practice across oil painting and sculpture; why she avoids politics in the work; the metaphysics of “energy” as a guiding motif; and the craft behind surfaces, stretching raw linen, prepping grounds, pigments, and why layers matter. We also touch on community vs. solitude, drawing in museums, classical influences from Velázquez to Sargent, and what it means to feel safe enough to create. An intimate conversation about process, place, and the quiet joy of showing up to paint.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title>Faulkner in the Summer, Dostoevsky in the Winter</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2025 12:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Literary Obsessions, Southern Roots, and the Stories That Shape Us</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[In this episode of <em>{framed} Interviews</em>, writer and philanthropist Randy Fertel joins Ron Silver and West Moss for a candid conversation that stretches from the humid streets of New Orleans to the pages of Faulkner and Dostoevsky. The trio reminisce about how they first met through literary circles, the strange joy of crafting a 60-second acceptance speech, and the long-standing rituals that form a writer's life. Fertel opens up about his lifelong dedication to literature, his Southern upbringing, and the emotional truths embedded in storytelling. It’s a warm, meandering conversation filled with charm, memory, and literary passion.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title>Tracks in the Dark</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2025 12:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Brothers, Breakdowns, and the BQE</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[Ron sits down with his brother Brandon for a raw, reflective ride through family mythology, psychedelic misadventures, and the day Brandon stepped into the subway tracks—then climbed back out. What follows is a winding conversation about control, chaos, healing, and how two brothers reckon with the past from opposite ends of the spectrum. From Skippy peanut butter bongs to spiritual pivots to the quiet decision to stay alive, this episode cuts deep.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title>Bulls, Masks, and the Movie That Is New York</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2025 12:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Artist Juliana Plexxo on feeling disembodied, falling in love with engraving, and painting through obsession.</itunes:subtitle>
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			<title>Bananas, Guitars, and Guns: A Friendship in Four Decades</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2025 12:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>From a kibbutz on the Lebanese border to a Cadillac in L.A. - Ron and Michael remember how it all began.</itunes:subtitle>
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			<title>A Conversation with Hamilton Fish</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2025 12:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Art, activism, and the fragile future of democracy</itunes:subtitle>
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