It's usually not fine.
It's Probably Fine is a podcast about real crisis stories from leaders and business owners. What actually went wrong? How decisions got made under pressure with incomplete information and no time to think? And what they'd tell their past self?
Honest conversation about what leadership and decision-making actually look like when the unexpected happens.
Hosted by Lucy Smith and Jemma Davis and co-founders of Decidr Live - a decision-making and crisis resilience platform built for exactly these moments.
Visit decidr.live or https://inclusivechange.co.uk/services-decidr-intro
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]]>It's usually not fine.
It's Probably Fine is a podcast about real crisis stories from leaders and business owners. What actually went wrong? How decisions got made under pressure with incomplete information and no time to think? And what they'd tell their past self?
Honest conversation about what leadership and decision-making actually look like when the unexpected happens.
Hosted by Lucy Smith and Jemma Davis and co-founders of Decidr Live - a decision-making and crisis resilience platform built for exactly these moments.
Visit decidr.live or https://inclusivechange.co.uk/services-decidr-intro
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]]>In this episode of It’s Probably Fine, Lucy Smith speaks with Maria Canning, a former police sergeant with 16 years’ experience across two police forces, including specialist work in domestic abuse and violence against women and girls (VAWG).
The Russell Brand case provides the starting point for a wider conversation about sexual violence, justice, the courage it takes to report and the responsibility organisations have when someone speaks up.
Lucy and Maria explore:
They also share stories from their own law enforcement careers, including how a single incorrect letter on a search warrant stopped an entire police operation.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and meeting Maria Canning
02:00 The Russell Brand case
06:00 The courage it takes to report sexual violence
10:00 What happens after someone reports?
15:00 Neurodiversity and the experience of victims
22:00 The National Decision Model
25:00 Managing personal feelings during investigations
29:00 When one wrong letter stops a police operation
34:00 Celebrity, power and the fear of not being believed
38:00 What employers and organisations can learn
42:00 Supporting someone who discloses sexual assault
47:00 ADHD, neurodiversity and accountability
50:00 The emotional impact of policing
53:00 Where to find support
Chapter timings are approximate and should be checked against the final edited recording.
About our guest
Maria Canning is a former police sergeant and domestic abuse specialist. She is also a founder and chair of the Police National Dyslexia Association and works to improve neurodiversity and disability inclusion with n-attc.co.uk
About It’s Probably Fine
Hosted by Lucy Smith, founder of Inclusive Change, It’s Probably Fine explores decision-making, leadership, human behaviour and what happens when the decisions we make have serious consequences.
Support and information
This episode discusses sexual violence, rape and domestic abuse.
If you have experienced sexual violence, whether recently or in the past, confidential support is available.
Rape Crisis England & Wales: 0808 500 2222 (24/7)
NHS Sexual Assault Referral Centres: https://www.nhs.uk/SARCs
National Domestic Abuse Helpline: 0808 2000 247 (24/7)
Rape Crisis Scotland: 08088 01 03 02
You do not have to report an assault to the police to seek specialist support.
If you are in immediate danger, call 999.
Find out more about Decidr:
decidr.live
#ItsProbablyFine #RussellBrand #ViolenceAgainstWomenAndGirls #SexualViolence #DecisionMaking #Neurodiversity #DomesticAbuse
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]]>In this episode of It’s Probably Fine, Lucy Smith speaks with Maria Canning, a former police sergeant with 16 years’ experience across two police forces, including specialist work in domestic abuse and violence against women and girls (VAWG).
The Russell Brand case provides the starting point for a wider conversation about sexual violence, justice, the courage it takes to report and the responsibility organisations have when someone speaks up.
Lucy and Maria explore:
They also share stories from their own law enforcement careers, including how a single incorrect letter on a search warrant stopped an entire police operation.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and meeting Maria Canning
02:00 The Russell Brand case
06:00 The courage it takes to report sexual violence
10:00 What happens after someone reports?
15:00 Neurodiversity and the experience of victims
22:00 The National Decision Model
25:00 Managing personal feelings during investigations
29:00 When one wrong letter stops a police operation
34:00 Celebrity, power and the fear of not being believed
38:00 What employers and organisations can learn
42:00 Supporting someone who discloses sexual assault
47:00 ADHD, neurodiversity and accountability
50:00 The emotional impact of policing
53:00 Where to find support
Chapter timings are approximate and should be checked against the final edited recording.
About our guest
Maria Canning is a former police sergeant and domestic abuse specialist. She is also a founder and chair of the Police National Dyslexia Association and works to improve neurodiversity and disability inclusion with n-attc.co.uk
About It’s Probably Fine
Hosted by Lucy Smith, founder of Inclusive Change, It’s Probably Fine explores decision-making, leadership, human behaviour and what happens when the decisions we make have serious consequences.
Support and information
This episode discusses sexual violence, rape and domestic abuse.
If you have experienced sexual violence, whether recently or in the past, confidential support is available.
Rape Crisis England & Wales: 0808 500 2222 (24/7)
NHS Sexual Assault Referral Centres: https://www.nhs.uk/SARCs
National Domestic Abuse Helpline: 0808 2000 247 (24/7)
Rape Crisis Scotland: 08088 01 03 02
You do not have to report an assault to the police to seek specialist support.
If you are in immediate danger, call 999.
Find out more about Decidr:
decidr.live
#ItsProbablyFine #RussellBrand #ViolenceAgainstWomenAndGirls #SexualViolence #DecisionMaking #Neurodiversity #DomesticAbuse
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]]>Jemma and Lucy are back, and this time they’re questioning whether our growing reliance on artificial intelligence is creating problems we’re not prepared for.
From businesses replacing entry-level jobs with AI to the long-term consequences for succession planning and future leadership, they explore what happens when organisations stop investing in the people who would ordinarily become their next generation of experts.
But it’s not just about jobs. Are we experiencing cognitive surrender? Are we losing skills we once took for granted? And what happens when the AI tools we’ve become dependent on suddenly become too expensive or unavailable?
There’s also a surprisingly personal conversation about what AI thinks of us, a disagreement about AI-generated design, and a question every business should be asking: do we need an AI continuity plan?
It’s a conversation about technology, people, decision-making and the unintended consequences of progress.
When the AI hits the fan, will it really be probably fine?
It's Probably Fine is Sponsored by Decidr.live
https://inclusivechange.co.uk/probably-fine-podcast
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]]>Jemma and Lucy are back, and this time they’re questioning whether our growing reliance on artificial intelligence is creating problems we’re not prepared for.
From businesses replacing entry-level jobs with AI to the long-term consequences for succession planning and future leadership, they explore what happens when organisations stop investing in the people who would ordinarily become their next generation of experts.
But it’s not just about jobs. Are we experiencing cognitive surrender? Are we losing skills we once took for granted? And what happens when the AI tools we’ve become dependent on suddenly become too expensive or unavailable?
There’s also a surprisingly personal conversation about what AI thinks of us, a disagreement about AI-generated design, and a question every business should be asking: do we need an AI continuity plan?
It’s a conversation about technology, people, decision-making and the unintended consequences of progress.
When the AI hits the fan, will it really be probably fine?
It's Probably Fine is Sponsored by Decidr.live
https://inclusivechange.co.uk/probably-fine-podcast
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]]>Ellen became a CEO at 29 and now runs the Leadership Multiverse podcast, analysing the leadership styles of science fiction characters and superheroes — from Captain Kirk and Spock to Darth Vader, the Mandalorian and Iron Man.
In this episode she and Lucy talk about:
Why "what would Captain Kirk do?" is a genuinely useful leadership question
The Kobayashi Maru "no-win scenario" and how to make decisions without deciding from fear
Why the Avengers are a masterclass in how not to mentor young talent (sorry, Spider-Man)
Leading through crisis, from Brexit to becoming a CEO in the middle of the pandemic
Why leadership can be lonely at the top, and how to build a network that helps
More from Ellen Daniels:
Leadership Multiverse podcast and consultancy: https://leadershipmultiverse.com
Email: ellen@leadershipmultiverse.com
LinkedIn: search "Ellen Daniels"
More from It's Probably Fine:
Decid:R — decision-making training and experiences: https://decidr.live
More episodes: https://inclusivechange.co.uk/probably-fine-podcast-page
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]]>Ellen became a CEO at 29 and now runs the Leadership Multiverse podcast, analysing the leadership styles of science fiction characters and superheroes — from Captain Kirk and Spock to Darth Vader, the Mandalorian and Iron Man.
In this episode she and Lucy talk about:
Why "what would Captain Kirk do?" is a genuinely useful leadership question
The Kobayashi Maru "no-win scenario" and how to make decisions without deciding from fear
Why the Avengers are a masterclass in how not to mentor young talent (sorry, Spider-Man)
Leading through crisis, from Brexit to becoming a CEO in the middle of the pandemic
Why leadership can be lonely at the top, and how to build a network that helps
More from Ellen Daniels:
Leadership Multiverse podcast and consultancy: https://leadershipmultiverse.com
Email: ellen@leadershipmultiverse.com
LinkedIn: search "Ellen Daniels"
More from It's Probably Fine:
Decid:R — decision-making training and experiences: https://decidr.live
More episodes: https://inclusivechange.co.uk/probably-fine-podcast-page
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]]>Every business owner we've ever met has said it: it's probably fine. It's usually not fine.
This episode, Lucy and Jemma sit down with Stuart Barker, a former military intelligence and law enforcement operator turned keynote speaker and corporate director — for a masterclass in decision-making under real pressure. Stuart takes us inside a 2010 raid on a Taliban compound in Helmand province that should have been a clean win, until a corrupt government official tried to walk off with the evidence in front of his team. What happens in the sixty seconds between a celebration and a crisis?
Stuart breaks down the models he leaned on in that moment - and the ones he now uses to run a logistics company through Brexit and COVID, including his own "3 Rs" (regulate, reflect, respond), why "clarity beats certainty" when the pressure's on, and the worst decision he's ever made, and why. Along the way: the sociology of trust, why "weak ties" matter more than hierarchy in a crisis, and what most organisations get wrong about who's really making their decisions.
A conversation about leadership, ethics, and what actually happens when the plan meets reality.
Stuart Barker is represented by Professional Guest Speakers. https://www.professionalguestspeakers.co.uk/stuart-barker
It's Probably Fine is a podcast from Decidr Live, hosted by Lucy and Jemma. https://inclusivechange.co.uk/probably-fine-podcast-page
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]]>Every business owner we've ever met has said it: it's probably fine. It's usually not fine.
This episode, Lucy and Jemma sit down with Stuart Barker, a former military intelligence and law enforcement operator turned keynote speaker and corporate director — for a masterclass in decision-making under real pressure. Stuart takes us inside a 2010 raid on a Taliban compound in Helmand province that should have been a clean win, until a corrupt government official tried to walk off with the evidence in front of his team. What happens in the sixty seconds between a celebration and a crisis?
Stuart breaks down the models he leaned on in that moment - and the ones he now uses to run a logistics company through Brexit and COVID, including his own "3 Rs" (regulate, reflect, respond), why "clarity beats certainty" when the pressure's on, and the worst decision he's ever made, and why. Along the way: the sociology of trust, why "weak ties" matter more than hierarchy in a crisis, and what most organisations get wrong about who's really making their decisions.
A conversation about leadership, ethics, and what actually happens when the plan meets reality.
Stuart Barker is represented by Professional Guest Speakers. https://www.professionalguestspeakers.co.uk/stuart-barker
It's Probably Fine is a podcast from Decidr Live, hosted by Lucy and Jemma. https://inclusivechange.co.uk/probably-fine-podcast-page
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]]>Lucy and Jemma (founders of Decider Live) record an episode without their guest, who is pulled into a crisis, and discuss how they prepare differently for speaking and decision-making. They share real-life “probably fine” moments: Lucy recalls teaching the wrong module to students due to last-minute prep, while Jemma describes a London trip disrupted by Pride closures, a desperate search for toilets, and arriving at a Booking.com-linked scam listing where the hotel’s website appeared compromised; she eventually finds alternate accommodation via a hotel chain membership. They also compare approaches to note-taking, travel safety, deposits, and passports in hotels. The episode ends with Lucy explaining how she ran a Decid:R crisis simulation for a Gloucestershire VCSE Alliance Future Leaders program using the CLEAR decision-making model, with participants tackling a sensitive data breach scenario in a hybrid session.
00:00 Probably Fine Intro
00:53 Guest Crisis Setup
01:45 Prep vs Wing It
04:35 Wrong Lesson Story
07:42 Panel Chaos Tales
13:42 Notes and Evidence
16:33 Jemma Crisis Begins
18:41 Pride Travel Detours
25:33 Hotel Booking Scam
29:26 Hotel Booking Chaos
30:54 Soho Pride Night Out
35:53 Sketchy Past Stays
39:46 Deposits and Passport Safety
44:08 Lost at the Zoo
46:21 Doors Lifts and Takeaway Rules
49:10 DecidR Crisis Simulation
58:43 Wrap Up and Sign Off
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]]>Lucy and Jemma (founders of Decider Live) record an episode without their guest, who is pulled into a crisis, and discuss how they prepare differently for speaking and decision-making. They share real-life “probably fine” moments: Lucy recalls teaching the wrong module to students due to last-minute prep, while Jemma describes a London trip disrupted by Pride closures, a desperate search for toilets, and arriving at a Booking.com-linked scam listing where the hotel’s website appeared compromised; she eventually finds alternate accommodation via a hotel chain membership. They also compare approaches to note-taking, travel safety, deposits, and passports in hotels. The episode ends with Lucy explaining how she ran a Decid:R crisis simulation for a Gloucestershire VCSE Alliance Future Leaders program using the CLEAR decision-making model, with participants tackling a sensitive data breach scenario in a hybrid session.
00:00 Probably Fine Intro
00:53 Guest Crisis Setup
01:45 Prep vs Wing It
04:35 Wrong Lesson Story
07:42 Panel Chaos Tales
13:42 Notes and Evidence
16:33 Jemma Crisis Begins
18:41 Pride Travel Detours
25:33 Hotel Booking Scam
29:26 Hotel Booking Chaos
30:54 Soho Pride Night Out
35:53 Sketchy Past Stays
39:46 Deposits and Passport Safety
44:08 Lost at the Zoo
46:21 Doors Lifts and Takeaway Rules
49:10 DecidR Crisis Simulation
58:43 Wrap Up and Sign Off
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]]>What began as a conversation about heatwaves, swollen train lines and school closures quickly became something much bigger.
In this episode of It’s Probably Fine, Lucy and Jemma explore how seemingly simple decisions often have unexpected consequences. From the proposed UK social media ban and digital wellbeing to safeguarding, domestic abuse, digital identity and the responsibilities of employers, this is an honest conversation about the complexity of risk in today’s world.
Along the way we discuss:
Content warning: This episode contains discussion of suicide, self-harm, eating disorders, domestic abuse, child safeguarding and mental health. Please listen with care.
If you or someone you know has been affected by any of the issues discussed, support is available:
• Samaritans – Free, confidential support 24 hours a day for anyone struggling or in emotional distress. Call 116 123 or visit https://www.samaritans.org
• Refuge – Support for women experiencing domestic abuse, including the National Domestic Abuse Helpline. Call 0808 2000 247 or visit https://www.refuge.org.uk
• Papyrus HOPELINE247 – Suicide prevention support for children, young people under 35 and those worried about them. Call 0800 068 4141, text 88247, or visit https://www.papyrus-uk.org
• Childline – Free, confidential support for anyone under 19. Call 0800 1111 or visit https://www.childline.org.uk
• YoungMinds – Information and support for young people’s mental health and advice for parents and carers. Visit https://www.youngminds.org.uk
• NSPCC – Advice on online safety, safeguarding and protecting children. Visit https://www.nspcc.org.uk
• The Mix – Free support for under-25s covering mental health, relationships, work, housing and more. Visit https://www.themix.org.uk
If someone is in immediate danger or you believe a child or vulnerable adult is at immediate risk of serious harm, call 999.
It’s Probably Fine is the podcast where business leaders, experts and consultants share what really happens when things go wrong - and what we can all learn from the decisions made under pressure.
If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who enjoys thoughtful conversations about leadership, resilience and navigating an increasingly complex world.
visit https://inclusivechange.co.uk/probably-fine-podcast-page to apply to be a guest
visit decidr.live to find out more about Decid:R
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]]>What began as a conversation about heatwaves, swollen train lines and school closures quickly became something much bigger.
In this episode of It’s Probably Fine, Lucy and Jemma explore how seemingly simple decisions often have unexpected consequences. From the proposed UK social media ban and digital wellbeing to safeguarding, domestic abuse, digital identity and the responsibilities of employers, this is an honest conversation about the complexity of risk in today’s world.
Along the way we discuss:
Content warning: This episode contains discussion of suicide, self-harm, eating disorders, domestic abuse, child safeguarding and mental health. Please listen with care.
If you or someone you know has been affected by any of the issues discussed, support is available:
• Samaritans – Free, confidential support 24 hours a day for anyone struggling or in emotional distress. Call 116 123 or visit https://www.samaritans.org
• Refuge – Support for women experiencing domestic abuse, including the National Domestic Abuse Helpline. Call 0808 2000 247 or visit https://www.refuge.org.uk
• Papyrus HOPELINE247 – Suicide prevention support for children, young people under 35 and those worried about them. Call 0800 068 4141, text 88247, or visit https://www.papyrus-uk.org
• Childline – Free, confidential support for anyone under 19. Call 0800 1111 or visit https://www.childline.org.uk
• YoungMinds – Information and support for young people’s mental health and advice for parents and carers. Visit https://www.youngminds.org.uk
• NSPCC – Advice on online safety, safeguarding and protecting children. Visit https://www.nspcc.org.uk
• The Mix – Free support for under-25s covering mental health, relationships, work, housing and more. Visit https://www.themix.org.uk
If someone is in immediate danger or you believe a child or vulnerable adult is at immediate risk of serious harm, call 999.
It’s Probably Fine is the podcast where business leaders, experts and consultants share what really happens when things go wrong - and what we can all learn from the decisions made under pressure.
If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who enjoys thoughtful conversations about leadership, resilience and navigating an increasingly complex world.
visit https://inclusivechange.co.uk/probably-fine-podcast-page to apply to be a guest
visit decidr.live to find out more about Decid:R
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]]>Lucy and Jemma, founders of Decider Live, introduce their new podcast “It’s Probably Fine,” where business leaders and consultants share what happened when crises hit and decisions mattered. They discuss their backgrounds—Jemma’s work running Culture Gem in cybersecurity and her experience during the 2017 WannaCry outbreak, and Lucy’s change-management focus through Inclusive Change with expertise in neurodiversity plus many years in law enforcement, including customs and the National Crime Agency. They explain how Decid:R, a crisis resilience and decision-making simulation platform, grew from their early conversations and a first meeting marked by de-escalating an incident involving a homeless man and trainee hairdressers. They explore decision-making under uncertainty and reflect on fight/flight/freeze responses, and invite listeners to get in touch to share crisis stories, directing them to Decid:R Live for more information.
To apply to be a guest visit: https://inclusivechange.co.uk/probably-fine-podcast-page
00:00 It’s Probably Fine Intro
00:50 Meet The Hosts
01:43 Lucy Loves Podcasting
03:14 Back To Episode One
04:27 Who Are You Really
06:11 Jemma Cybersecurity Journey
09:33 Lucy Change And Law
16:25 Why Start This Podcast
18:10 DecidR Origin Story
19:46 Harborside Haircut Crisis
24:01 Nicknames And Sausage Lady
27:40 Sausage Lady Nickname
28:29 Why Its Probably Fine
29:49 2020 Shop Opens Fast
32:58 Pandemic Decisions Evidence
35:33 Early Remote Work Prep
37:09 Toilet Roll Therapy Detour
38:48 Sales Pitch Or Stories
42:11 Fears Fight Flight Freeze
44:18 Personal Crisis Reactions
49:17 DecidR Team Dynamics
52:51 Wrap Up And Get In Touch
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]]>Lucy and Jemma, founders of Decider Live, introduce their new podcast “It’s Probably Fine,” where business leaders and consultants share what happened when crises hit and decisions mattered. They discuss their backgrounds—Jemma’s work running Culture Gem in cybersecurity and her experience during the 2017 WannaCry outbreak, and Lucy’s change-management focus through Inclusive Change with expertise in neurodiversity plus many years in law enforcement, including customs and the National Crime Agency. They explain how Decid:R, a crisis resilience and decision-making simulation platform, grew from their early conversations and a first meeting marked by de-escalating an incident involving a homeless man and trainee hairdressers. They explore decision-making under uncertainty and reflect on fight/flight/freeze responses, and invite listeners to get in touch to share crisis stories, directing them to Decid:R Live for more information.
To apply to be a guest visit: https://inclusivechange.co.uk/probably-fine-podcast-page
00:00 It’s Probably Fine Intro
00:50 Meet The Hosts
01:43 Lucy Loves Podcasting
03:14 Back To Episode One
04:27 Who Are You Really
06:11 Jemma Cybersecurity Journey
09:33 Lucy Change And Law
16:25 Why Start This Podcast
18:10 DecidR Origin Story
19:46 Harborside Haircut Crisis
24:01 Nicknames And Sausage Lady
27:40 Sausage Lady Nickname
28:29 Why Its Probably Fine
29:49 2020 Shop Opens Fast
32:58 Pandemic Decisions Evidence
35:33 Early Remote Work Prep
37:09 Toilet Roll Therapy Detour
38:48 Sales Pitch Or Stories
42:11 Fears Fight Flight Freeze
44:18 Personal Crisis Reactions
49:17 DecidR Team Dynamics
52:51 Wrap Up And Get In Touch
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]]>Every business owner has said it. "It'll probably be fine."
It's usually not fine.
Probably Fine is a podcast about real crisis stories from business owners and leaders. What actually went wrong. How decisions got made under pressure with incomplete information and no time to think. And what they'd tell their past self.
No frameworks. No polished hindsight. Just honest conversation about what leadership and decision-making actually look like when the unexpected happens.
Hosted by Lucy and Jemma, co-founders of Decidr Live - a decision-making and crisis resilience platform built for exactly these moments.
Find out more about DecidR at decidr.live
Apply to join us as a guest - https://inclusivechange.co.uk/probably-fine-podcast-page
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
]]>Every business owner has said it. "It'll probably be fine."
It's usually not fine.
Probably Fine is a podcast about real crisis stories from business owners and leaders. What actually went wrong. How decisions got made under pressure with incomplete information and no time to think. And what they'd tell their past self.
No frameworks. No polished hindsight. Just honest conversation about what leadership and decision-making actually look like when the unexpected happens.
Hosted by Lucy and Jemma, co-founders of Decidr Live - a decision-making and crisis resilience platform built for exactly these moments.
Find out more about DecidR at decidr.live
Apply to join us as a guest - https://inclusivechange.co.uk/probably-fine-podcast-page
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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