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		<itunes:author>Jared Stephens and Jeremy Karney</itunes:author>
		<itunes:subtitle>Design + Development + Product</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[The podcast for designers, developers, product owners and others that live to make digital products. Topics include designing product, development and design teams, leadership tips, experience roadmaps, and pretty much anything involved in making digital products better.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Growing Design Outputs [SHORT]</title>
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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[Jeremy can't figure out the mute button in this episode, so Jared talks about the idea of diversifying our approach to problems as a way to grow our design skills. Hopefully Jeremy figures things out soon.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Announcing Season 2!</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[It's been a minute. I blame Jeremy. We are back on the horse and kicking off season 2 of Making Digital.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[It's been a minute. I blame Jeremy. We are back on the horse and kicking off season 2 of Making Digital.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>The Dark Valley of Design : A Conversation with John Griffin</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Join us as Jared and Jeremy talk to John Griffin, a design leader who inspired both the both. They talk through the the design of design orgs, as well as why some many times what they design never quite gets developed the way they intended.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[Join us as Jared and Jeremy talk to John Griffin, a design leader who inspired both the both. They talk through the the design of design orgs, as well as why some many times what they design never quite gets developed the way they intended.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<itunes:subtitle>The Making Digital Guide to Getting Un-stucky</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Is un-stucky even a word? No, no it is not. But when has that stopped us?</p><br><p>Sometimes you love your job, but you feel stuck in a rut. It happens to everyone at some point, but it is especially painful for creatives. In this episode, Jared and Jeremy make up new words and tell you how they have handled situations like this in their careers.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Is un-stucky even a word? No, no it is not. But when has that stopped us?</p><br><p>Sometimes you love your job, but you feel stuck in a rut. It happens to everyone at some point, but it is especially painful for creatives. In this episode, Jared and Jeremy make up new words and tell you how they have handled situations like this in their careers.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<itunes:subtitle>An examination of the UX of the 75 Hard Program</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[For the holiday weekend, Jared, Jeremy and guest host Benji talk about the pros and cons of their experience with the 75 Hard program and their varying levels of success in changing their habits.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[For the holiday weekend, Jared, Jeremy and guest host Benji talk about the pros and cons of their experience with the 75 Hard program and their varying levels of success in changing their habits.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Relationships That Can Make You Successful - Live at CAST Tech High School</title>
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			<title>[DM] Teaching UX Design (to highschoolers)</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2021 14:43:57 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Interview with Belinda Medellin</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[In the first of our Digital Makers [DM] series, we interview Belinda Medellin, creator of the first UX curriculum for High School students. In this inspirational talk, Jared and Jeremy reminisce on how much a program like this would have helped them stay out of trouble, and Belinda shows us all how teachers have been using the principles of design thinking for years without realizing what it was.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title>How to Destroy a Team</title>
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			<itunes:subtitle>in 5 Easy Steps [SHORT]</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this digital short, hosts Jeremy Karney and Jared Stephens discuss sure fire ways to destroy a team. Using their vast experience on their subject combined with their keen observational skills (Jared's, at least), they show you the tactics and strategies you can use to destroy your team as skillfully as they have destroyed dozens of teams in the past.</p><br><p>Or the whole episode is an extended metaphor on what NOT to do. Which is it? You decide.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title>Office Toothbrushes : How to Create Work Life Balance, Part 2</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2021 10:30:08 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[or Why We Hate Avatar (it's not because of Papyrus)]]></itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Finding the right work/life balance is easy. You just need to set clear boundaries and real expectations.</p><br><p>Okay, maybe not so easy.</p><br><p>But we are here to help. In the previous episode, we talked about individual capacity. In this one we expand our calculation to include teams and prioritization, and how you can start to take control of the work you have without giving up and sleeping at the office.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Beasts & Ladders : How to Create Work Life Balance, Part 1]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Beasts & Ladders : How to Create Work Life Balance, Part 1]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2021 10:30:39 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Find Work Life Balance through Just Enough Project Management</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[Creatives don't typically gravitate toward project management, but when you implement just enough process into your design program you take a major step toward work life balance for yourself and your team. <hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[Creatives don't typically gravitate toward project management, but when you implement just enough process into your design program you take a major step toward work life balance for yourself and your team. <hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Professional Disappointment and the Art of Not Reacting</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2021 11:00:09 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>AKA - How Jeremy Pissed Jared off at Chipotle</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[Did not get the raise you expected? Got laid off?  The job you took is not the job you thought it was? Everyone experiences disappointments at some point in their career. How you handle them is what defines your future success. Listen as Jared and Jeremy explore the times they have experienced professional disappointment, how they responded, and what some of the wrong and rights ways to handle disappoint are.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title>We are all imposters</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2021 18:13:28 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Exploring our collective imposter syndrome stories</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[In this episode, Jeremy and Jared explore how the design profession is particularly susceptible to imposter syndrome. Along the way we will share our own imposter syndrome stories, and some listener submitted stories as well. If you have ever suffered from feeling like an imposter, this is the show for you.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title>[SHORT] Does Digital Make Life Better?</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2021 17:39:22 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Jared's musings on the Texas Icepocalypse]]></itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[The lack of internet for 4 days has caused an existential crisis for Jared. Find out his thoughts on whether or not the digitally connected lives we lead are better or worse than the alternative.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Why They Don't like Designers : Part 2]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Why They Don't like Designers : Part 2]]></itunes:title>
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			<title><![CDATA[Why They Don't Like Designers]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2021 01:14:44 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>and How to Fix It</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Designers are notoriously... difficult to deal with. We can say that because we are designers, too. Graphic designers, product designers, experience designers - we all seem to get wrapped up in the same perception. Where did that perception come from, and how do we go about fixing it?</p><br><p>Jeremy and Jared dive into that question and more, while giving you real life examples and tactics you can implement, too. It's all a part of our pursuit of digital goodness.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Designers are notoriously... difficult to deal with. We can say that because we are designers, too. Graphic designers, product designers, experience designers - we all seem to get wrapped up in the same perception. Where did that perception come from, and how do we go about fixing it?</p><br><p>Jeremy and Jared dive into that question and more, while giving you real life examples and tactics you can implement, too. It's all a part of our pursuit of digital goodness.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Making Digital Goodness</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 07 Sep 2019 13:07:21 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Who we are and why we are here</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[Welcome to Making Digital. In this inaugural episode, Jared and Jeremy explain why this is not a design podcast but why designers, developers, product managers and other people who make digital products might be interested in the crazy things they are talking about.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[Welcome to Making Digital. In this inaugural episode, Jared and Jeremy explain why this is not a design podcast but why designers, developers, product managers and other people who make digital products might be interested in the crazy things they are talking about.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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