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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The renowned ceramicist Magdalene Odundo joins Tim Marlow on this week’s episode of Making Sense: Conversations on Creativity to discuss the deep connection between clay and the human body, the importance of vessels throughout history and her desire to create the “perfect bowl”.&nbsp;</p><br><p><br></p><p><em>Follow and rate the show to never miss an episode.</em></p><p><em>Tap </em><a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/5LdPUauMb5aDqDVxkfACRM?si=517f9f4faf614c1b" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>here</em></a><em> to catch up on last week’s episode featuring Thomas Heatherwick.</em></p><br><p>Magdalene Odundo</p><p>Credit: Wedgwood&nbsp;</p><br><p>Credits:</p><br><p>Producer: Emilia Eyre</p><br><p>Recordist &amp; Editor: David Clack</p><br><p>Project Manager: Katie Burdett</p><br><p>Series graphics: Rosie Leggett</p><br><p>A Cultureshock Production</p><br><p>https://cultureshock.com/</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>On this week’s episode of Making Sense: Conversations on Creativity Tim is a little closer to home, speaking to Thomas Heatherwick at his London studio. From his fascination with making and fixing objects as a child, to his advocacy for reusing and repurposing older buildings today, Thomas covers his early desire to be an inventor, the importance of collaboration with colleagues and how the marginal gains sought in British cycling have inspired his practice today.&nbsp;</p><br><p><em>Follow and rate the show to never miss an episode.</em></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/6acPnT0VkGuxPGa8arOgbw?si=b0687ecf2b7046de" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Tap here to catch up on last week’s episode featuring Ai Weiwei.</em></a></p><br><p>Thomas Heatherwick</p><p>Credit: Raquel Diniz</p><p>Courtesy Heatherwick Studio</p><p>Credits:</p><br><p>Producer: Emilia Eyre</p><br><p>Recordist &amp; Editor: David Clack</p><br><p>Project Manager: Katie Burdett</p><br><p>Series graphics: Rosie Leggett</p><br><p>A Cultureshock Production</p><br><p>https://cultureshock.com/</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The Chinese artist and activist Ai Weiwei is known globally for his powerful, frequently political works. He sits down with Tim Marlow to discuss his life and career, including his early childhood in the Gobi desert and an 81-day secret detention by the Chinese government in 2011. Weiwei also discusses his use of humour and irony, and why tricks, parallel meanings and coded references are key to the art he creates.</p><br><p><em>Follow and rate the show to never miss an episode.</em></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/7atGXsKUshgw5WlCzawlY3?si=bea77467f6474bdd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Tap here to catch up on last week’s episode featuring Marina Abramović.</em></a></p><br><p>Warnings: Strong language and adult themes.</p><p>Credits:</p><br><p>Producer: Emilia Eyre</p><br><p>Recordist &amp; Editor: David Clack</p><br><p>Project Manager: Katie Burdett</p><br><p>Series graphics: Rosie Leggett</p><br><p>A Cultureshock Production</p><br><p>https://cultureshock.com/</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title>Making Sense with Marina Abramović</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2025 05:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>For the first episode of Making Sense, host Tim Marlow (art historian and director of the Design Museum, London) travels to New York to speak with the world’s best-known performance and conceptual artist, Marina Abramović.&nbsp;</p><br><p>Join them as they discuss the moments that have shaped her extraordinary career. From early childhood memories to the extremes of <em>Rhythm 0</em> and <em>The Artist Is Present</em>, Marina reflects on fear, transcendence, endurance, and the search for “full emptiness.”&nbsp;</p><br><p>Follow and rate the show to never miss an episode.</p><br><p>Warnings: Strong language and adult themes.&nbsp;</p><br><p><em>Portrait of Marina Abramović, 2025</em></p><p><em>Photo by Marco Anelli</em></p><p><em>Courtesy Lisson Gallery</em></p><br><p><br></p><br><p>Credits:</p><br><p>Producer: Emilia Eyre</p><br><p>Recordist &amp; Editor: David Clack</p><br><p>Project Manager: Katie Burdett</p><br><p>Series graphics: Rosie Leggett</p><br><p>A Cultureshock Production</p><br><p>https://cultureshock.com/</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2025 17:58:18 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Launching Tuesday 25 November 2025.</p><br><p>Where do ideas come from? And what does it mean to create something in today’s world? Join the art historian and director of London's Design Museum, Tim Marlow, as he makes sense of it all in conversation with the biggest names in art, design and architecture.</p><br><p>Making Sense: Conversations on Creativity is a Cultureshock production, available wherever you get your podcasts.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Credits:</p><br><p>Producer: Emilia Eyre</p><br><p>Recordist &amp; Editor: David Clack</p><br><p>Project Manager: Katie Burdett</p><br><p>Series graphics: Rosie Leggett</p><br><p>A Cultureshock Production</p><br><p>https://cultureshock.com/</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Launching Tuesday 25 November 2025.</p><br><p>Where do ideas come from? And what does it mean to create something in today’s world? Join the art historian and director of London's Design Museum, Tim Marlow, as he makes sense of it all in conversation with the biggest names in art, design and architecture.</p><br><p>Making Sense: Conversations on Creativity is a Cultureshock production, available wherever you get your podcasts.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Credits:</p><br><p>Producer: Emilia Eyre</p><br><p>Recordist &amp; Editor: David Clack</p><br><p>Project Manager: Katie Burdett</p><br><p>Series graphics: Rosie Leggett</p><br><p>A Cultureshock Production</p><br><p>https://cultureshock.com/</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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