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			<description><![CDATA[How LinkedIn and other social platforms affect our careers and personalities, and how to stay sane while building your online persona.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title>15 - Year end special: Introducing Paper Cuts</title>
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			<title>13 - Being an introvert</title>
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			<title>12 - Preposterous impostors</title>
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			<title>11 - Intentional living (ft. Nadia Kishlan)</title>
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			<title>10 - Are you all right? An unbridled take on mental wellness</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2023 12:00:50 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>09 - Living, fast and slow:  How modern city destroys creativity and what we can do about it (ft. Timothy Huang)</title>
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			<title>08 - Life after a layoff: Rediscovering yourself (ft. Samantha Lo)</title>
			<itunes:title>08 - Life after a layoff: Rediscovering yourself (ft. Samantha Lo)</itunes:title>
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			<title>07 - Design against AI (ft. Ninad)</title>
			<itunes:title>07 - Design against AI (ft. Ninad)</itunes:title>
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			<title><![CDATA[06 - Bonus Episode: What is Paper & Pain?]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[06 - Bonus Episode: What is Paper & Pain?]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2023 12:00:52 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>05 - Breaking into design</title>
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			<title>02 - Accessible design</title>
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			<title>01 - Design system and creativity</title>
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