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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Pensions Unpacked, brought to you by Brightwell is hosted by award-winning broadcaster Georgie Frost. Each episode explores the policies, pressures, and possibilities redefining pensions and retirement.</p><br><p>With expert guests, real-world insights, and&nbsp;clear &nbsp;conversation, we unpack complex topics to help you stay informed and inspired. </p><br><p>Whether you're a trustee, sponsor, or pensions professional, tune in to discover how the industry is evolving - and where it’s headed next.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Episode 1: What does the next decade hold for DB pensions?</title>
			<itunes:title>Episode 1: What does the next decade hold for DB pensions?</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2026 15:31:18 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>With many DB schemes now in surplus, the challenge is shifting from recovery to the strategic choices that will shape the next decade.</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>With the majority of defined benefit schemes now in surplus, it might be tempting to think the hard work is done. But Brightwell’s&nbsp;<em>DB 2036 – Out of the Woods?</em>&nbsp;report suggests the sector is entering a far more complex second act, one defined not by recovery, but by choice.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>As schemes weigh up decisions that will shape outcomes for decades to come, the paths forward are diverging. While smaller schemes may still favour buy‑out or consolidation, larger, well‑funded schemes are increasingly exploring run‑on as a way to retain control and unlock long‑term value. But running on brings its own challenges - from governance and investment strategy to risk and member expectations.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>In the first episode of&nbsp;<em>Pensions Unpacked</em>&nbsp;series two, Georgie is joined by Julie Aspinall, UK Pensions Director at Unilever, one of the senior figures interviewed for the report, alongside Alex Truscott, Business Development Manager at Brightwell, to unpack what this new phase really means for schemes.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Read the full report here:&nbsp;<a href="https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbrightwellpensions.com%2Fdb-2036-report%2F&amp;data=05%7C02%7Cpolly%40broadcastrevolution.co.uk%7C03725b6ce61e4024c37e08de83467ce9%7Cee4bcdbbdf2c4475aa14f299fd60aaaf%7C0%7C0%7C639092535984533097%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=Dfv30VxtbWAJUqeJ6xHeU1jqJK3CkHUi1S8cJhdQa6U%3D&amp;reserved=0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>DB 2036 Report :: Brightwell</u></a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>With the majority of defined benefit schemes now in surplus, it might be tempting to think the hard work is done. But Brightwell’s&nbsp;<em>DB 2036 – Out of the Woods?</em>&nbsp;report suggests the sector is entering a far more complex second act, one defined not by recovery, but by choice.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>As schemes weigh up decisions that will shape outcomes for decades to come, the paths forward are diverging. While smaller schemes may still favour buy‑out or consolidation, larger, well‑funded schemes are increasingly exploring run‑on as a way to retain control and unlock long‑term value. But running on brings its own challenges - from governance and investment strategy to risk and member expectations.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>In the first episode of&nbsp;<em>Pensions Unpacked</em>&nbsp;series two, Georgie is joined by Julie Aspinall, UK Pensions Director at Unilever, one of the senior figures interviewed for the report, alongside Alex Truscott, Business Development Manager at Brightwell, to unpack what this new phase really means for schemes.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Read the full report here:&nbsp;<a href="https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbrightwellpensions.com%2Fdb-2036-report%2F&amp;data=05%7C02%7Cpolly%40broadcastrevolution.co.uk%7C03725b6ce61e4024c37e08de83467ce9%7Cee4bcdbbdf2c4475aa14f299fd60aaaf%7C0%7C0%7C639092535984533097%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=Dfv30VxtbWAJUqeJ6xHeU1jqJK3CkHUi1S8cJhdQa6U%3D&amp;reserved=0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>DB 2036 Report :: Brightwell</u></a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Episode 6: What can the UK pensions sector learn from international experience?</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2025 08:30:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Georgie discusses what the UK can learn from Australia, Canada and the Netherlands with Gregg McClymont and Denise Le Gal</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to pensions, Australia appears light years ahead. Universal, compulsory, preserved to retirement, and big professional funds investing for decades. It's caught the attention of policymakers here in the UK.&nbsp;Chancellor Rachel Reeves is eyeing consolidation and better value, taking cues from Australia as well as Canada and the Netherlands. But you can't copy and paste a pension system. So what can the UK sensibly borrow? What should we believe, and what does it mean for members?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>In the final episode of Pensions Unpacked series one, Georgie is joined by Gregg McClymont, executive director of Public Affairs at IFM investors, and Denise Le Gal, a Canadian who's worked in the UK pensions and financial services industry for nearly 40 years.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to pensions, Australia appears light years ahead. Universal, compulsory, preserved to retirement, and big professional funds investing for decades. It's caught the attention of policymakers here in the UK.&nbsp;Chancellor Rachel Reeves is eyeing consolidation and better value, taking cues from Australia as well as Canada and the Netherlands. But you can't copy and paste a pension system. So what can the UK sensibly borrow? What should we believe, and what does it mean for members?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>In the final episode of Pensions Unpacked series one, Georgie is joined by Gregg McClymont, executive director of Public Affairs at IFM investors, and Denise Le Gal, a Canadian who's worked in the UK pensions and financial services industry for nearly 40 years.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Episode 5: Looking ahead to COP 30</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2025 06:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Lord Alok Sharma KCMG PC discusses the achievements of COP 26, the current direction of travel when it comes to global climate action and his hopes for COP 30.</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Pensions Unpacked, Georgie Frost is joined by Lord Alok Sharma KCMG PC to discuss the achievements of COP 26, the current direction of travel when it comes to global climate action and his hopes for COP 30.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>As COP 30 in Belem approaches, the politics of climate and finance are shifting at home and abroad. The UK can point to sharp emissions cuts, even as momentum builds to roll back green rules. In the US, the policy direction is even less certain. Against that backdrop, what does transition finance look like in practice, and what is the role for long term pension capital?</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Pensions Unpacked, Georgie Frost is joined by Lord Alok Sharma KCMG PC to discuss the achievements of COP 26, the current direction of travel when it comes to global climate action and his hopes for COP 30.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>As COP 30 in Belem approaches, the politics of climate and finance are shifting at home and abroad. The UK can point to sharp emissions cuts, even as momentum builds to roll back green rules. In the US, the policy direction is even less certain. Against that backdrop, what does transition finance look like in practice, and what is the role for long term pension capital?</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Episode 4: Why is pension administration stuck in the past and what needs to change?</title>
			<itunes:title>Episode 4: Why is pension administration stuck in the past and what needs to change?</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2025 06:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Georgie and guests talk about the forces changing UK pension administration.</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Pension administration is seen as the unglamorous side of the industry. Yet it's critical to how schemes run and how members experience their retirement. As expectations rise and risks multiply, the pressure to modernise has never been greater. So how do we move administration from back-office function to genuine driver of value?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>In this edition of Pensions Unpacked, David Fairs, Chair, PASA, Helen Sparke, administration expert at Procentia, and Brightwell’s David Cheetham, join Georgie Frost to talk about the forces changing UK pension administration.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Pension administration is seen as the unglamorous side of the industry. Yet it's critical to how schemes run and how members experience their retirement. As expectations rise and risks multiply, the pressure to modernise has never been greater. So how do we move administration from back-office function to genuine driver of value?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>In this edition of Pensions Unpacked, David Fairs, Chair, PASA, Helen Sparke, administration expert at Procentia, and Brightwell’s David Cheetham, join Georgie Frost to talk about the forces changing UK pension administration.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Episode 3: Pensions Unpacked podcast live: UK DB landscape – where are we now & where are we going?]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Episode 3: Pensions Unpacked podcast live: UK DB landscape – where are we now & where are we going?]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2025 13:33:51 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Georgie Frost is joined by Head of DB Endgame Strategy at Barnett Waddingham, and Morten Nilsson, CEO at Brightwell</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Once the cornerstone of retirement, most DB schemes are now closed - yet they still hold over £1.4 trillion in assets and remain vital for millions of members and the wider economy. </p><br><p>And with new rules on surplus set to take effect from 2027, schemes and sponsors face fresh choices about whether to buy out or keep running on. </p><br><p>In this special live edition of Pensions Unpacked, Ian Mills, Head of DB Endgame Strategy at Barnett Waddingham, and Morten Nilsson, CEO at Brightwell, talk to Georgie Frost about the state of the UK’s defined benefit pensions.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Once the cornerstone of retirement, most DB schemes are now closed - yet they still hold over £1.4 trillion in assets and remain vital for millions of members and the wider economy. </p><br><p>And with new rules on surplus set to take effect from 2027, schemes and sponsors face fresh choices about whether to buy out or keep running on. </p><br><p>In this special live edition of Pensions Unpacked, Ian Mills, Head of DB Endgame Strategy at Barnett Waddingham, and Morten Nilsson, CEO at Brightwell, talk to Georgie Frost about the state of the UK’s defined benefit pensions.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Episode 2: Pensions and the politics of investment</title>
			<itunes:title>Episode 2: Pensions and the politics of investment</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2025 08:20:32 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Georgie Frost is joined by Matt Cavanagh, Senior Counsel H/AdvisorsCicero and Amy Mankelow from Brightwell.</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The government's recent plans for pension schemes to help support UK economic growth raise important questions about economic strategy, fiduciary duty, and the evolving role of pensions in supporting national interests. </p><br><p>Matt Cavanagh, Senior Counsel H/AdvisorsCicero and Amy Mankelow from Brightwell talk to Georgie Frost about whether these plans are genuine win-win, or a case of political overreach.</p><br><p>Find out more about Brightwell <a href="https://brightwellpensions.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>The government's recent plans for pension schemes to help support UK economic growth raise important questions about economic strategy, fiduciary duty, and the evolving role of pensions in supporting national interests. </p><br><p>Matt Cavanagh, Senior Counsel H/AdvisorsCicero and Amy Mankelow from Brightwell talk to Georgie Frost about whether these plans are genuine win-win, or a case of political overreach.</p><br><p>Find out more about Brightwell <a href="https://brightwellpensions.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Episode 1: How can we make the most of longer lives</title>
			<itunes:title>Episode 1: How can we make the most of longer lives</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2025 05:04:27 GMT</pubDate>
			<itunes:duration>39:32</itunes:duration>
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			<itunes:subtitle>How can we make the most of longer lives?</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
			<itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Life expectancy in the UK has gone up but the number of years we spend in good health hasn’t kept pace. David Sinclair, Chief Executive of the International Longevity Centre UK and Amy Mankelow from Brightwell talk to Georgie Frost about the implications of longer lives, how we can age well and why rethinking retirement is more urgent than ever.</p><br><p>Find the report: The future of ageing in an uncertain world <a href="https://brightwellpensions.com/the-future-of-ageing-report/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a></p><br><p>Find out more about the International Longevity Centre UK <a href="https://ilcuk.org.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a></p><br><p>Find out more about Brightwell <a href="https://brightwellpensions.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Life expectancy in the UK has gone up but the number of years we spend in good health hasn’t kept pace. David Sinclair, Chief Executive of the International Longevity Centre UK and Amy Mankelow from Brightwell talk to Georgie Frost about the implications of longer lives, how we can age well and why rethinking retirement is more urgent than ever.</p><br><p>Find the report: The future of ageing in an uncertain world <a href="https://brightwellpensions.com/the-future-of-ageing-report/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a></p><br><p>Find out more about the International Longevity Centre UK <a href="https://ilcuk.org.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a></p><br><p>Find out more about Brightwell <a href="https://brightwellpensions.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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