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Kate Jinx is joined by her dear pals Guy Blackman and Ben O'Connor, the owners of iconic indie record label Chapter Music ahead of their HUGE Rising Festival swansong show End of An Era on Saturday 7 June – highlighting their 33 years in the biz, and the changes they're making. They talk zines, musical influences, slutty eras and ... ceramics! You can (and SHOULD) also pre–order Guy Blackman's new solo album "Out of Sight" here.

Ben O'Connor's Also Alsos:

• The Kanopy (free streaming service) queer section
• Holy Sugar the cake shop in Northcote
• P.E. Moskowitz's substack Mentalhellth 

Guy Blackman's Also Alsos:

• Australian potter Eric Juckert
• "Dressed in Black: The Shangri–Las and Their Recorded Legacy" by Lisa MacKinney
• 50s/60s/70s Australian label Phono Vox Records

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Kate Jinx is joined by Jessica Stanley, an Australian novelist who lives in London – and has just published her new book Consider Yourself Kissed. Jessica talks through her writing patterns, politics, her favourite newsletters, asks would you pose nude for Lucian Freud?, and shares her best spots in London. Sign up for her substack!

Jessica's Also Alsos:

• The Lives of Lucian Freud: Fame: 1968-2011 by William Feaver
• Naked Portrait: A Memoir of Lucian Freud by Rose Boyt
• Celia Paul: Works 1975–2025 monograph
• + her all–time favourite, The Line of Beauty by Alan Hollinghurst

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Kate's joined by "girlfriend of the pod", comedian Zoë Coombs Marr who is about to wrap up her latest stand–up show The Splash Zone at MICF to talk White Lotus, Severance, Real Housewives of Sydney and how she also made out with one of the Real Housewives of Melbourne once.

Zoë's Also Alsos:

• Balcony gardening
• Dexies
• Liza Treyger's stand–up special Night Owl on Netflix

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Kate's joined by forever It Girl Ione Skye to talk about her new must–read memoir Say Everything, her creative life & loves, perceptions of relationships then & now, her real life 90s L Word era and the film she made with Sofia Coppola that's impossible to see.

Ione's Also Alsos:

• A History of Rock Music in 500 songs podcast by Andrew Hickey
• The Andy Warhol Diaries Soundtrack by Brad Oberhofer
• The Brian De Palma documentary 'De Palma' directed by Noah Baumbach & Jake Paltrow

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These humans discuss the nostalgia era of Instagram and its brand of Venice influencers, "Is Ingrid Goes West queer?", what's your biggest emotional wound?, the genre of obsession movies, just how much money was left in Ingrid's backpack, and this incredible cast of Aubrey Plaza, Billy Magnusson and a bunch of nepo babies/siblings: Elizabeth Olsen, Wyatt Russell and O'Shea Jackson Jr.

See Alsos:

An Instagram Influencer Reviews Ingrid Goes West

‘Ingrid Goes West’: How a First-Time Filmmaker Cracked the Sundance Code

When Grown-Ups Have Imaginary Friends

How Dare Celebrities Cheat?

On Joan Didion's 'everywoman.com'

Welcome to Me (2014)

Tracking Noise – director Matt Spicer's new newsletter all about physical media

Autograph Hound

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Brodie's been drinking fancy vinegars in a place (actually) called Cockatoo, Jinx is dropping by a favourite Inner North spot and doing whatever the stern Scottish woman in her ear says to her, and then we have some Big News about See Also ahead of our third anniversary next week.

And then it's time to chat The Pitt, Yellowjackets, The Newsreader and will they actually watch The Real Housewives of Sydney??? – yes – before a very special set of Also Alsos.

Also Alsos

• The NALA Support Wirefree Bralette
• Geoffrey O'Connor's new album 'I Love What We Do'
• BRUXA body oil in summer jasmine
• Ione Skye's memoir 'Say Everything'
• Pep premium black pepper + their Sunny Side Up collab with Piccolina
• Mike Leigh's film 'Hard Truths'

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Kate discovered it was not peak hour at the rock, acid casualties trasmuting them girls to the light. Brodie is moving again, went to a music festival and saw Kylie sing a song about a girl being murdered to a little girl. Kylie wine sponsor the pod!! No one would care about Nick Cave in a shopping centre.

Will Kate go full Babygirl aka see Romy DJ at Heaps Gay? Stay tuned to find out!

Speaking of old gals: Kate's great aunt is in a movie club and Brodie sobbed through the film of the year aka Bridget Jones: Mad About the Boy.

Then it's time to discuss the Traitors (US), and have some spoiler-y chats about Severance (APPROX 33:25 – 47:33) and The White Lotus (APPROX 47:45 – 1:05:45). Because of ad placement, the times are approximate – another reason to go ad–free via the Hogg Hive on Patreon!

See Alsos

• AD's tour of the home from Bridget Jones
• 831 Stories – Big Fan novel
• Mike White x Southern Charm
• A Guided Tour of Severance’s Goat Room
• Profile of Mike White in the New Yorker
• Charlotte Le Bon's film Falcon Lake streaming on Stan + Amazon Prime

Also Alsos

• Officine Universelle Buly Huile Antique Mexican Tuberose Dry Body Oil
• Evenings & Weekends by Oisin McKenna
• E Nolan fly t-shirt 
• Carrol Jerems "Portraits" at National Portrait Gallery – on until 2 March + great piece about it in the latest issue of The Monthly
• Elizabeth Sankey's film Witches on Mubi
• Julio Torres 'Color Theories' at MICF

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This week, Kate and Brodie are being so decadent, so silly, so Mary! They're going deep on Daisy Von Scherler Mayer's 1995 cult classic, Party Girl, a movie that follows Parker Posey as Mary, who would like a nice powerful mind-altering substance, preferably something that will make her unborn children grow gills, before learning the Dewey Decimal System. We get into designer vs vintage, Liev Schreiber's British accent (better or worse than Brodie's BE HONEST?!), building main characters from all the side characters in other films, meeting the party girls in our own lives, Sisyphus being totally famous, the truth of the film's cultural insensitivities, where has pashing on screen gone, being daffy, The "Lady" Bunny as Itself, getting sick of all the street fashion in London … all those hats, librarians getting silly on the dancefloor. Am I a freak?!

See Also

• Fashion in Party Girl
• 25th Anniversary of Party Girl
• A Little Glam Girl in a Big Bad City
• Parker Posey on Party Girl in Little White Lies
• The Secret History of Party Girl
• Party Girl is Back in Town
• 200 Cigarettes
• Letterbox reviews: director Daisy von Scherler Mayer and music supervisor Bill Coleman read reviews
• Parker Posey, queen of indie
• Rich Juzwiak on Party Girl in Jezebel
• Picture me in a library, that's funny! "Am I a freak?"

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On Valentine's day in 1900, the students from Miss Appleyard's depart their fortress-like school in rural Victoria for a lazy afternoon at the base of Hanging Rock. The hot wind blows in, the clocks stop, the girls peel off their stockings and, as the ants descend on the remains of the picnic, four girls ascend the rock, along with one of their teachers. Only one of them returns. As people hear of the mysterious disappearances, search parties break out, but only one girl is recovered, missing her corset and her memory of what happened at Hanging Rock. As are we all. Because if you need an ending you're a bit weak in the head.

See Also

• The Secret of Hanging Rock available on eBay or via this PDF
• Joan Linsday's memoir 'Time Without Clocks' published in 1962
• Mulberry Hill, Joan's house which is now owned by the National Trust
• Interview with producer Pat Lovell in Cinema Papers from 1976
• Scan of the script
• Deleted scene of Mrs Appleyard at the rock
• NFSA page that includes info about the costumes and deleted scenes and stills, interviews with cast and crew
• Judith Dorsman's dolls
• Martin Sharp's Tiny Tim concert film is on Plex and his unfinished doc Street of Dreams is on YouTube
• The Beguiled
• The Fits
• Umbrella's Making of Picnic at Hanging Rock – part 1 and part 2
• Magic Dirt's She-Riff video
• The Fast Forward sketch
• Anne Lambert on ABC's just Between Us
• New adaptation from Sydney Theatre Company playing 17 February – 5 April 2025

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We've got lots of movies to get into, in varying degrees of detail.

• BABYGIRL from 17:25 – 30:47 (some spoilers!)
• QUEER from 31mins – 41:26
• EMILIA PEREZ from 41:27 – 52mins
• CONCLAVE from 52:30 – 56:28
• A COMPLETE UNKNOWN from 56:30 through to our Also Alsos this week.

Speaking of!!

Also Alsos

• Palace Coffee on Ridgway Place
• Melbourne Cinematheque's 2025 season
• SNL 50 – Beyond Saturday Night on Binge
• Kate Berlant in Sydney & Melbourne
• Chao Ban – Viet Sticky Rice (XÔI XÉO) pop-up Every Weds & Thurs in Feb from 5pm at Henry Sugar – 296 Rathdowne street, Carlton North.
• The Sundays "Reading Writing Arithmetic" from 1990

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See Alsos:

• Alexei’s interview with Gillian Armstrong for the Sunburnt Screens podcast
• Jo Kennedy in Tender Hooks (dir. Mary Callaghan, 1989) on YouTube
• The incredible Starstruck costumes at NFSA:
• Kate's Rediscovering Starstruck piece by Kate (as seen on Wikipedia!): https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/aug/01/rediscovering-starstruck-gillian-armstrongs-80s-rock-musical-extravaganza
• The Coca–Cola Kid (dir. Dušan Makavejev, 1985)

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Then, it's time to check in on what we're reading!

Books we discuss:

• Good Girl by Anna Fitzpatrick
• Narrow Rooms by James Purdy
• You Are Here by David Nicholls
• Woo Woo by Ella Baxter
• Filterworld by Kyle Chayka
• Our Evenings by Alan Hollinghurst

Also Alsos:

• 35 Simple Health Tips Experts Swear By
• Olive Made 'Sunshine' bags
• Living Skin Hydrating Haze & Essential Moisturiser
• For Scale newsletter
• Japanese cotton artist shirt from Caves Collect
• You Are Here by David Nicholls

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We're soaking and other people are reading books in the spa. It's so annoying that not drinking makes you feel better? Kate's selling stuff on Depop and Brodie gives a WWHL report.

We debrief on a few films, new and not-so-new: A Different Man, The Brutalist, Lee and Conclave (just a tiny chat – more next time!)

See Alsos

• @merchmotel is documenting all the historic buildings lost in Altadena / the Eaton fire
• Erika Jayne talking about psychological evaluation with Mel from RHONY
• Brady Corbet interview in le Cinéma Club
• An article on Lee Miller's kitchen at Farleys House

Also Alsos

• Donate to Pasadena Humane Society
• X-cetra's 'Summer 2000' 25th anniversary re-release
• Ramona books in Westgarth Village, Northcote
• Masses Bagels' new shop
• Our Friend, Willem film series at Golden Age Cinema
• Pidapipo's monthly special: milk choc with Amarena Jam and choc brownie pieces

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This week, Kate and Brodie talk about doing karaoke, should we watch I'm Not There again?, last we saw each other Brodie was going to a hen's do and Kate went to a kick-on at a house owned by someone whose dog is Top Chef's instagram friend (sure!) and to a bar called Disco Pantera, Brodie got a DM NDA for a hot Melbourne cocktail, the dog who works at the Park Hyatt is retiring this month, does Melbourne need more breakfast spots (not cafes!).

We watched a lot of stuff over the break! Kate watched The Lady Vanishes, Brodie's going to the movies again to see A Different Man and Lee, Brodie saw An Unmarried Woman and tries to do the Nosferatu voice (sorry), she's confused the Lighthouse and Swiss Army Man (and also confused that movie's farting corpse with one about a propellor penis WHOOPS sorry don't @ her). They both watched Heretic (Kate's nephew's introduction to Hugh Grant was the Oompa Loompa in Wonka), The Room Next Door, Anora, All We Imagine as Light and Better Man – shockingly we have very different responses to Monkey Robbie Williams. Kate also watched The Lost Daughter finally – the audio of that bit cut out SORRY!! Brodie saw Wicked for a third time (hehe) and Kate's been visiting Somebody Somewhere and loved Bad Sisters season 2 – BL less so. Do not invite us round, Garvey sisters.

Also Alsos

• Marisa Meltzer's newsletter, Soft Power
• Tina Brown's newsletter, Fresh Hell
• Mecca Cosmetica To Save Face SPF 50+
• Alex Goldman's Hyperfixed podcast
• Cunk on Life on Netflix
• Clockwatchers streaming on 7+

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This week, See Also is wishing you a happy new year – twice! – with the most perfect rom-com to ever exist: When Harry Met Sally. They discuss the two iconic pairings: Nora Ephron and Rob Reiner, Meg Ryan and Billy Crystal. And they dig into the wagon wheel coffee table, Baby Fish-Mouth, “Thin. Pretty. Big tits. Your basic nightmare.”, going on a road trip with a man asking BL for the story of her life, imagine giving a Dorit "carcass out" drink order on a plane, this is in the Drop Dead Fred extended universe, being someone's weekday girlfriend, Harry's from Haddenfield like Michael Meyers, pesto is the quiche of the 80s, the Puck building on Lafayette St, Meg Ryan as queen of the rom-com, “This is a talk piece,” days of the week underpants ARE funny!, Don’t fuck with Mr Zero, a very cold hard mexican ceramic tile, "On the side is a very big thing for you", Princess Diana thinks it's so naughty.

See Also:

• Nora Ephron on Desk Set 
• When Harry Met Sally remembered by Alice 
• Behind the Scenes 
• French Kiss
• Crossing Delancey
• Heartburn
• Postcards from the Edge
• Derek Guy: HOW TO RECREATE EVERY GOOD OUTFIT IN HARRY MET SALLY 🧵
• Carrie Fisher was the Best Part of When Harry Met Sally
• The Meaning of When Harry Met Sally
• When Rob Reiner's Alter Ego Met Nora Ephron's Alter Ego

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For a very special holiday Poodle, Kate is joined by Chelsea Fairless, co-host of Every Outfit for a virtual glove-lunch. Together, they play 1950s and devolve into "dyke debauchery" while discussing our fave and yours: Carol, based on crime novelist Patricia Highsmith’s "The Price of Salt" starring Cate Blanchett and Rooney Mara. They cover the martinis and creamed spinach, Our Cate's voice and her period-inappropriate manicure. Also: Alsos!

See Also:

• The original short story Carol/The Price of Salt is based on
• Screenwriter Phyllis Nagy discussing the way the film finally came together
• Kate McKinnon's Carol parody for the Film Independent Spirit Awards
• King Princess song 1950, inspired by Carol
• Forbidden Love: The Passions behind Patricia Highsmith's "The Price of Salt"
• "Carol" Up Close

Watch Also:

• Tár
• Loving Highsmith (with caveats discussed in the episode)
• Nelly & Nadine
• Word is Out: These are the Stories of Some of our Lives
• The Children's Hour
• The Killing of Sister George
• Desert Hearts
• High Art
• The L Word & The L Word: Generation Q (LOL)

Also Alsos:

Chels recommends: Byredo lipstick in Subtropical, Lana Del Rey - Did you know that there's a tunnel under Ocean Blvd

Jinxy recommends: her Zodiac Club extended playlist on Spotify, Gay Bar: Why We Went Out by Jamie Atherton Lin, Je Tu Il Elle

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She tells Kate and Brodie about being the last remaining anonymous food critic the un-deification of The Chef, her upcoming book, how and why she does her job, and why food isn't the only reason to go to a restaurant.

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See Also – Besha's reviews we mention

• We know Ben Shewry doesn’t like the Good Food Guide. And we don’t care
• This Melbourne icon divides food snobs – but our critic keeps going back
• Review: Kisumé in Melbourne, Australia
• Five months after opening, this hyped city restaurant was still empty, and it’s easy to see why

Spots Besha mentioned:

• Vue De Monde
• Jim's Greek Tavern
• Waiter's Club
• Mario's
• Bratwurst Shop & Co.
• France Soir
• Malin

Besha's Also Alsos

• Tzaki Tzaki
• Heartstopper
• Wine growing regions in Great Southern (WA) and Gippsland

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We follow the brick road whose shape – but not its colour – is protected by stringent copyright law to Shiz University, where we had a GREAT TIME!!!! And then avoid doing accent work to chat about the brilliant TV adaptation of Patrick Radden Keefe's book, Say Nothing.

Don't forget to grab your tickets to our screening of Carol at Thornbury Picture House on 17 December!

See Alsos

• Wild at Heart (for Laura Palmer Glinda)
• Girl, Interrupted (for Clea Duvall playing a Wizard of Oz obsessive (and pathological liar))
• Return to Oz (based mainly on the book Ozma of Oz)
• Patrick Raddan Keefe's original New Yorker essay
• Kneecap, screening in Aus cinemas now
• The Crying Game
• The Disappeared
• Craic Pack: How the Irish Came to Rule Pop Culture

Also Alsos

• Film Map on Tumblr
• Sweethearts – dir by Jordan Weiss, on Binge
• Fashion Neurosis with Bella Freud
• Good Morning's new album, The Accident
• E Nolan pop–up, Thurs–Sun until 22 Dec – 43 Derby St, Collingwood
• The Season by Helen Garner

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Here are a few choice quotes we shared in this chat, and some recommended reading:

“As I get older, I’m resentful of how much I have accumulated. I’m actually angry about it.” – Stacey London

The yard sale scene in Ghost World:

Angry Garage Sale Woman : How much for this dress?

Rebecca : God, I can't believe you're selling that.

Enid : That's $500.

Angry Garage Sale Woman : What?

Enid : 500.

Angry Garage Sale Woman : You're crazy. It should be like $2.

Enid : I was wearing that when I lost my virginity.

Angry Garage Sale Woman : Well, why do I care about that?

Enid : Well, why do you want it? I mean, it would look stupid on you anyway.

Angry Garage Sale Woman : God! Fuck you!

“I work today with the manifesto that clutter is unresolved decisions.” – Megan Morton

“I don’t buy that much new stuff at all. I get the thrill of a hunt, this one thing that nobody else has. I always think of it as part of my job and my business, so it’s okay, but I really just want less stuff. Why do I always want something new? What’s missing in me?” – Chloe Sevigny

'Does it bring you joy?' vs. 'If it was covered in shit would you throw it away or clean it?' – Some random person on tikok

"The first thing I tried to unload was four folk-art handbags, each constructed out of braided cigarette-pack wrappers by incarcerated Americans in the nineteen-fifties and sixties. I’d amassed the collection in the nineties, on eBay, for reasons that now elude me." – Patricia Marx

"The trick to buying things you don’t regret is looking all the time and rarely buying. Spend days wandering in and out of shops the way snooty snoots plunder through galleries. Try on things that are popular or appeal to you without any intention of buying them. Look at things way outside your budget and at fast fashion brands. (Canal Street and the New Arrivals at Shein are a reporter/researcher’s best-kept trend cipher.) Do the same at vintage stores and Net-a-Porter and Mytheresa and all the good indie stores online (Worthwhile, Stand Up Comedy, Maimoun etc etc). Go to places like Outline and LaGarconne and ask the people working there to explain the brands and pieces to you. Try to keep cool headed and you’ll soon find that you know so much that you really know you’re being seduced instead of merely flirted with." – Rachel Tashjian in OPULENT TIPS #83

See Alsos

• Raquel Caballero on Opposite Ends
• A Guide to Getting Rid of Almost Everything
• What Jason Schwartzman can't live without
• Amy Sedaris's house tour
• City of Yarra recycling centre

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This week Katie Janx from MUFF and Brodie Lancaster (not the boy from Albury Wodonga) have a couple of corrections about Francis Ford Coppola and the white rapper Addison Rae's mum actually dated. No one on Threads or Bluesky are funny, kind of like those chicks on RHONY. Jinxy is back on board with RHOSLC, but less so with Gladiator II. Brodie wants to work for Martha Stewart, and both of us kind of want to raid Guru Jagat aka Kundalini Katie's closet after watching Breath of Fire.

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See Alsos

BL's column about Martha Stewart

Hayley Phelan's Vanity Fair article, The Second Coming of Guru Jagat

The Vanity Fair article about Breath of Fire, which is based on that Vanity Fair article

Also Alsos

New Deborah Levy book, The Position Of Spoons

Kim Deal's debut solo record Nobody Loves You More

Will & Harper (Netflix)

Ziggy Pleat Dress from ALPHA60

My Brilliant Career at MTC directed by Anne Louise Sarks

ACMI's new program, Focus on Peter Weir (Wed 29 Jan – Fri 14 Feb 2025)

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Maybe you're in need of some comfort watching right now, and with the holidays just around the corner we've got three little words for you: You've Got Mail. This week Kate drops in on her dear pal and author Dan Jones on an autumnal day in New York to talk about Nora Ephron's beloved 1998 romcom starring Meg Ryan, Tom Hanks, Parker Posey and ... Dave Chappelle?! Over a tumble of pumpkins and gourds, Dan and Kate talk haircuts, surprise cameos, catfishing and cosiness vs capitalism.

See Alsos

• You've Got Mail oral history in Vanity Fair
• You've Got Mail shooting locations by Refinery 29
• Out & About in the New York Times
• Art of the Title interview with graphic designers Milton Glaser, Walter Bernard and Mirko Ilić

Dan recommends 3 New York indie bookstores

• Queer Bookstore at the Center
• Books Are Magic
• The Center for Fiction

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We discuss the performances and purposes of The Apprentice, then Brodie fills Kate in on Jason Reitman's Saturday Night and the latest episode of Saturday Night Live, Kate will NOT be putting on a pink cowgirl hat for Chappell Roan but that's okay, the internet is being insane about John Mulaney.

While we're on the subject of pop girlies: Brodie is fanging to talk about Addison Rae, Kate and Brodie each have information to share each other about Sabrina Carpenter, "Barry Keoghan's wife should be hosting SNL".

Then it's time to debrief on the little indie flick called Megalopolis, we're mad at Joaquin Phoenix but he looks really good, Frances Ford Coppola gave Kate the gift of Pepsi Max.

We've both watched Fanatical: the Catfishing of Tegan and Sara, a documentary that made us remember the good songs and the L Word episode, and debate "Fegan" and the merits of a directors inserting themselves into a show. Kristen Stewart in Twilight lost a Saturday to unnecessary research.

Our next screening at Thornbury Picture House is a lesbian holiday classic: Todd Haynes' CAROL (2015)

Join us on Dec 17 for two screenings – 6pm and 8:30pm – with a post-film chat, plus a special martini.

Get your tickets!

Keep an eye on our IG to submit your requests for our holiday gift guide + advice column!

See Also

Where's My Roy Cohn?

Live From New York

Sean Price William on Addison Rae in Dazed

The English Teacher – streaming on Disney Plus and Hulu

Celebrity Book Club 'Club Kids' episode on Fanatical

Casey Affleck and Rain Phoenix's kid

Martha Stewart responds to Ina Garten's book on WWHL

Marisa Meltzer review in NYTimes

Also Alsos

The Row playlists

Distant Call: Collected Demos 2000–2006

Culture Study

Structure Face Sculpt facial at Little Company

Martha on Netflix

THE FIRST AND LAST OF ENGLAND: THE QUEER LEGACIES OF DEREK JARMAN at Melbourne Cinematheque 6–20 Nov

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There's a TV dispatch: on lying about owning Pioneertown in Selling Sunset, Perfect Couple and doing lots of Irish accents, lesbian witches in Agatha All Along and lesbian housewives in RHONY, (Ryan) Murphy's Law states we gotta talk about Monsters.

Also: Alsos!

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Brodie is joining Lauren Taylor & Simon Winkler on Nov 16 at Hope Street for Good Question. See Also listeners can get 30% off their tickets for the Nov 16 workshop with the code SEEALSO. Get your ticket here.

See Alsos

• Between the Temples @ JIFF
• Guy Blackman's vinyl reissue of Adult Baby
• New single from Harvey Sutherland

Also Alsos

• Soccer Mommy's new album Evergreen
• You Beauty by Mish Grigor
• Real Housewives of Salt Lake City on Hayu
• Sabah Bolo slippers
• Cabeau travel pillow
• Mojave Ghost by Byredo

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It's spooky time, and Kate and Brodie venture back to 1982 to recap Tobe Hooper's classic Poltergeist. We discuss the Spielberg "collaboration", Zelda Rubenstein's incredible performance and advocacy, the obsession with undies, and the reality behind the "curse".

See Alsos

• Oral history: Poltergeist at 40
• Griffin Dunne: Friday Afternoon Club interview
• A Father's Account of the Trial of his Daughter's Killer

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Also Alsos from Chelsea & Lauren

• Simone Rocha book by Rizzoli
• Fever Tree tonics, drinks & mixers
• kit: facial compatibility cleanser (discontinued, a cry for help)
• Huda Beauty Faux Filter Under Eye Colour Corrector
• Edie Parker Soft Serve Lighter Holder
• Sugar Baby directed by Lauren Garroni

Accidental Also Alsos from Kate

• Café Cecilia
• Liberty Designer Vintage

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We're both overseas at the moment so pulled this classic ep out of the archives!

This week, Kate and Brodie are digging into the source material, backstory, iconic moments and sexy highlighter costumes of the outcast classic: Romy and Michele's High School Reunion. Jinxy also coins a great new abbreev: et cet. There might not be Also Alsos this week, but don't worry, there's still plenty of further reading and ideas to Add To Cart – or at least Open in New Tab.

It's 1997 and Romy White and Michele Weinberger, best friends and fun cool party girls who live in Venice Beach, find out their 10 year high school reunion is coming up. As all the old, buried teenage insecurities re-emerge, Romy insists they need to improve themselves before coming face-to-face with their high school bullies, by getting more impressive jobs, finding boyfriends and SOMEHOW losing weight. Once they get closer to the event, they find themselves lying about their lives and losing one another for a few hours, before reuniting just in time to resolve all their high school trauma with (what else?) a dance scene.

See Alsos

• Mira Sorvino's Oscars speech
• LA times review of Ladies' Room
• Ronan Farrow's early reporting on Weinstein
• An Oral History of Romy and Michele's High School Reunion
• Janeane Garofalo Never Sold Out. What a Relief
• How Hollywood can make it up to the actresses Harvey Weinstein smeared
• Mira Sorvino answers all our Romy and Michele questions

Watch Also

• The Comeback
• Reality Bites

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Described as "Dead Poet's Society meets Clueless", The Hairy Bird is a 1998 film written and directed by Sarah Kernochan. Inspired by her time as a student at the Connecticut girls' boarding school Rosemary Hall in the 1960s, the film follows new student Odette Sinclair (Gaby Hoffman) as she meets the ICONIQUE headmistress Miss McVane (Lynn Redgrave) and falls in with a new clique led by Kirsten Dunst's Verena Von Stefan. No sooner is Odie welcomed in than their friend Tweetie (my girl Heather Matarazzo) overhears the school board's plans to merge Miss Godard's into a co-ed school with the nearby St Ambrose Academy.  

This sets the films antics into motion, pits the boy crazy Tweetie and Tinka, an aspiring "actress-folk singer-slut", against Verena and brainiac Momo (our girl Merritt Wever) and eventually leads Odie to stage a sit-in to demand the girls at Miss Godard's have a voice in the future of their school.

Brodie is joined by her bff Anton De Ionno to discuss the sad saga behind this film's release, its legacy in our lives and many spiritual connections to Gilmore Girls.

See Alsos

• Haley Mlotek's piece in Metrograph
• Interview with Sarah Kernochan in Business Insider + in Flashback Films
• 26 years before The Holdovers, Disney buried the best boarding school comedy
• Peter Biskind’s 2004 book Down and Dirty Pictures: Miramax, Sundance, and the Rise of Independent Film

Anton recommends

• An Unmarried Woman
• Love Is a Drag: For Adult Listeners Only
• dry-humping

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On the docket this week are chats about two very brilliant and very different films: Coralie Fargeat's The Substance (skip from 32:37 to 53:43 if you don't want spoilers) and Jane Schoenbrun's I Saw the TV Glow. We chat about how it's been a big year for chicks shooting up, finding a bit of flesh to poke an earring in, listening to what a film is saying – even if it's not speaking to you – and being simply a lesbian. Also: What was your Buffy journey and What Was The Name of Your High School Band? Is South Yarra the SoHo of Melbourne? Is asking that question totally insufferable? All that and more, this week on See Also!

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See Alsos

• Emily Gould's profile on Chloe Sevigny for The Cut
• Miranda July answers All Fours questions in Emily Sundberg's newsletter Feed Me
• The Substance Is Disgusting, Twisted, and Instantly Divisive
• For This Director, There’s No Such Thing as Too Much Blood
• Kelli Weston's The Substance review in Sight & Sound
• Demi Moore for Interview Magazine
• Kate's review of I Saw The TV Glow in The Monthly

Also Alsos

• The Beautiful Bunch
• Le Creuset Stoneware butter dish
• Reissue of Horizon Unlimited (1970) by the Lijadu Sisters
• Season Chicken
• Small Feelings: The Films of Cassavetes
• Romance by Fontaines D.C.

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See Alsos

• See Also Southside: the google map

Also Alsos

• Listen to Olivia Laing's conversation with Sophie Cunningham about their new book, The Garden Against Time: In Search of a Common Paradise, as you walk through the Royal Botanic Gardens
• Slow Dance by Rainbow Rowell
• Grief is for People by Sloane Crosley
• Topdog/Underdog on at MTC til 21 September
• Astor Theatre: 45th anniversary of the Muppet Movie on Sunday 8 September
• Tower 28 SOS LipSoftie Lip Rescue treatment

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They debrief on the movies they loved, the people they met and the iconic nistas of fashion they've been interviewing. Jinxy hosted an on-stage talk with Hollywood costume designer Deborah L. Scott and BL interviewed Charli XCX for the cover of Vogue Australia's September issue.

Then we discuss the recent investigation into the troubling "boys' club" at Swillhouse and the restaurant group's history of perpetuating harmful workplace practices, as reported in the Sydney Morning Herald. If this isn't something you're in a place to listen to, please skip ahead from 24:35 to 43:55.

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Also: Alsos!

See Alsos

• SMH/Good Food's investigation: Sex, sleaze and hospitality
• Women in hospitality

Also Alsos

• Supernormal's Piñata cocktail
• Punter's Club – come see BL DJ on Sep 6 at 10pm!
• HAA bath salts from CIBI
• Violette FR Yeux Paint Twinkling in Scarabee d'Or
• Sigrid Nunez's book What Are You Going Through from 2020
• Not All Diamonds and Rosé by Dave Quinn, audiobook read by Amy Phillips

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Then we recollect our night watching the first session of M Night Shyamalan's Trap at Thornbury Picture House. Incredible, amazing, loved every second. We won't spoil the end, but we do dig into the plot points, most of which are the setup and concept of the story, okay? We each shout out our Hayley Mills faves: Kate's is Whistle Down the Wind and Brodie's is The Parent Trap IV: Hawaiian Honeymoon. All the greats are here: Alison Pill! Kid Cudi! New nepo baby pop star (?) Saleka Shyamalan! And of course: Millennial Gay Root Josh Hartnett.

Listen to The Saturday Quiz podcast this week to hear us not know about geography or actors (oops!!). The next two weeks we'll only be posting for the Hogg Hive on Patreon.

Also: Alsos!

Also Alsos

The Male Gays – Be Kind 7"

Follow @cecilia.tolone on socials / find recipes on ceciliatolone.com

Linda Marigliano's Tough Love podcast episode: Naomi Shimada: Anything Can Happen

Madame Web is streaming on Binge now (praise be)

Follow @nyplpicturecollection on Instagram

Ella Baxter's new novel Woo Woo

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They coincidentally watched Twister (singular) at the same time and NEED to podcast live from Hoyts D-BOX. Brodie reports back from the long night at the movies watching Kinds of Kindness and they go deep on the tradwife expose setting TikTok alight.

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See Alsos

• Kate's feature on her style in SMH
• … and her reviews of I Saw the TV Glow and Under the Bridge in the Monthly
• Shaad D'Souza on How Long Gone
• Meet the queen of the ‘trad wives’ (and her eight children)

Also Alsos

• Cremate London incense
• Presumed Innocent
• Reissue of "Souvenirs" by Emahoy Tsegué-Maryam Guèbrou
• Hagen's Organics
• Coriander Seed Body Cleanser by Aesop
• Soft Services Carea Cream Daily Softening Lotion

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Then, they trade mini-reviews of some things they've watched recently: Longlegs, Lady in the Lake, A Quiet Place Day One, Renegade Nell, Maxxxine, The Fall Guy, Shutter Island, and that clip of Lisa Kudrow saying it's time for The Comeback to come back. Valerie Cherish on Hot Ones and How Long Gone when??

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Also: Alsos!

See Alsos

• Broadsheet's Creative Couples article
• Fashion Journal "How I Got Here: Melbourne International Film Festival’s programmer on the value of a non-linear career path"

Also Alsos

• Joni & Co
• Builders Arms' Tuesday chicken night
• Rebel Girl by Kathleen Hanna
• Pleasant State cleaning products
• Food & Film at MIFF
• Stella Donnelly is doing a residency on Wednesday nights in August at Merri Creek Tavern

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Also: Alsos!

See Alsos

• Explore the two strands Jinxy curated in this year's program: Yvonne Rainer: Autobiographical Fictions and Iranian New Wave: 1962 – 79
• For Grace – doc on Ever chef Curtis Duffy opening his previous restaurant, Grace
• Lee Tran Lam's piece on the Australian cookbooks in The Bear
• BL is hosting the Consuming Culture at MIFF again this year – grab a ticket!
• Explore the whole MIFF Talks program Jinxy pulled together
• FOTP Alexei is hosting trivia nights at the festival this year too

Also Alsos

• Pidapipo's seasonal hot chocolate
• Friday Afternoon Club: A Family Memoir by Griffin Dunne
• New Kim Deal song, Coast, recorded by the late Steve Albini.
• Girlboss episode of The Dilemma podcast, by Gina Rushton
• Fantasmas on Binge in Australia, a perfect show from Julio Torres (also come see Problemista at MIFF)
• I’m Tired of Using An App For Everything by Mark Hill on Slate

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This week, Kate and Brodie are in the realms of magic. Namely, ordering magic coffees, watching Practical Magic and experiencing The Power of Three. We do a quick check-in on The Bear season 3 – full chat coming next week! – and then report back on two recent watches: Under The Bridge (excellent!) and Industry (not!).

Then we duck behind the paywall to step out how we're going on our Q3 goals and aspirations. Dream big, baby!

See Also

• Cargo Crew sent us their aprons and Yes Chef hats – thank you!
• Buy a pillow head scarf like Syd wore in season 2 from Etsy seller AnotherHatBag

Also Alsos

Jinxy's Winter Also playlist is on Spotify and Apple Music

Serendib all you can eat Sri Lankan buffet

Kabocha French Lentil Soup recipe

Open House Melbourne tours of Wildwood House by Robin Boyd + the Cairo flats

Evenings with Eric Rohmer at Golden Age

Save the date for Brodie's A Plus market stall – 4 August at Coburg Town Hall 10am-3pm

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Here's what we wrote about it then:

This week, Kate and Brodie are talking about The Girls™️: Nora, Meg, Samantha and Gabby. It's our first Toy Poodle Episode (you'll see why) and it's all about Nora Ephron's 1992 directorial debut, This is My Life. There might not be Also Alsos this week, but don't worry, there's still plenty of further reading and ideas to Add To Cart – or at least Open in New Tab.

Starring Julie "literal Marge Simpson" Kavner as hopeful stand-up comic Dottie Ingils, and Samantha Mathis and Gabby Hoffman as her daughters Erica and Opel, This is My Life is about everything that matters: mums! daughters! sisters! ambition! Carrie Fisher!

Co-written by Nora and her sister Delia, the film was adapted from Meg Wolitzer's novel This is Your Life. As a special treat for us and you, Meg was kind enough to write in to See Also with her memories of having her book adapted by Nora.

See Alsos

• Samantha Mathis on River Phoenix and her career revival
• The Chelsea Hotel Had Its Own Eloise
• Seeing Nora Everywhere
• Girl Talk: Lena Dunham on Her Brooklyn Movie Series
• Sam Cohn's obituary
• One of Jinxy's "everything is material" moments
• Meg Wolitzer on What Happens When a Book’s Character Comes to Life

Watch Also

• Hacks
• Muppets Take Manhattan
• The Hairy Bird (aka Strike! aka All I Wanna Do)
• The Wife
• Everything is Copy
• Pump up The Volume
• The Thing Called Love
• C'mon C'mon

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This week, Kate and Brodie go deep on Miranda July's new novel, All Fours. BUT NOW WE SAID IT. (Sorry to Camille Grammer, who Kate realised actually said that long after the mics switched off. She really said that.) We cover the plot, the perimenopause of it all, how it queers traditional relationship dynamics, the polyp, how to recommend Miranda July to other people, Kate's experience of embroidering and carving next to her, and Give Us Back The Stuff We Loaned To You Ages Ago!!!!

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This week, Kate has shared air with Austin Butler, has popped into Lucky Kwong one last time, and is furious at HBO Max for teasing the majick community with a fakeout Practical Magic announcement. Brodie has discovered she loves lasers, has been listening to BRAT and and invites about boutique hotels – associated with Girlbosses or otherwise – to invite us to stay and pod. We LOVE sleep!!

Together, we discuss the MIFF First Glance announcement and our trip into the city to see The First Bad Man, a book club based on the book by Miranda July.

Speaking of! Next week we're going to be discussing Miranda July's new book All Fours. We're obsessed. If you're yet to buy a copy, we've got a special deal for you :)

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Also Alsos

• The Garden Against Time by Olivia Laing
• Muli Express oyster bar
• Kylie Kwong’s stir-fried Australian native greens with garlic
• 'Deep Forest' incense (and companion cassette) by Agaric Fly x Butter Sessions
• Words and Music, a reissue/collection of music by Margo Guryan
• Shulz Dairy 'milk in glass' program

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This week, Kate is catching up on sleep and thinking about whether slowness can save us. Brodie is railing against the culture of lining up for sandwiches and frozen yoghurt. Then: a live unboxing! Jinxy brought BL a cute gift back from LA!

Jinxy has some huge reccs for Sydney Film Festival, and will be seeing Our Austin Butler IRL. SPEAKING OF: We simply need to discuss THE Baz Lurhmann TikTok video.

Then, a debrief on season 3 of Hacks, season 2 of Loot and Palm Royale. RT does NOT equal endorsement, turns out. Justice for Ricky Martin, though.

See Alsos

• Kate's review of ‘Menus-Plaisirs’ and ‘La Cocina’ in The Monthly
• Can Slowness Save Us?
• The Baz Lurhmann TikTok video
• Baz @ Harry Styles
• Everyone in This TV Show Should Be Smoking

Also Alsos

• Kate's 10 tips for films at SFF (that are not sold out at the time of recording) are: Dahomey, A Different Man, Eephus, Grand Tour, Menu Plaisirs–Trois Gros, the Substance, Problemista, Sasquatch Sunset, The Substance, Pepe
• Melbourne Out Loud: life through the lens of Rennie Ellis, on at State Library Victoria til January
• Every Outfit is coming to Melbourne, Sydney, Perth, Brisbane, Auckland in December
• Brodie's two new fave true crime pods: Once Upon a Time in Nashville + Trial By Water
• Tap is Fine! newsletter by Khushbu Shah
• Reading Room gallery + Back Room shop on High St in Northcote

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Kate's back from Cannes! She and BL catch up on the last films of the festival and her journey in the Tom Crui-niverse. BL went to see Nan Goldin's The Ballad of Sexual Dependency in Ballarat and is very excited to tell you about the two special editions of the mX she guest-edited for RISING this year!

This week, Brodie is joined by Lucia Aniello for a chat about Hacks, a recent visit to Schwartz and Sandy's, the Tom Cruise Coconut Cake and some incredible recommendations. Lucia is the co-creator, -writer, -producer, -director and showrunner of Hacks, along with Paul W. Downs and Jen Statsky. She was a director on Broad City and the Netflix reboot of The Babysitters Club (vale queen!!!!!), and she and Paul co-wrote and -directed the film Rough Night and the webseries Time-Traveling Bong, which BL recommended way back in episode 8!

See Also

• An interview with Hacks' costume designer
• Lucia and Paul on Talk Easy
• Real Housewives of South Boston

Also Alsos

• Lucia recommends: Mary and George, On Writing by Stephen King, buying a pair of socks when you're visiting a new place
• Brodie recommends: the fresh-squeezed OJ from Northcote IGA, Renee Gracie: Fireproof on Stan(nes), The Uncoupling by Meg Wolitzer (and the related story, ‘Mitzvah Night Is CANCELLED’ Inside the sex strike that has infuriated husbands and shaken the ultra-Orthodox world by Talia Lavin in the Cut)
• Kate recommends: Officine Universelle Buly bath salts, 'How 3M Discovered, Then Concealed, the Dangers of Forever Chemicals' by Sharon Lerner, the AirFly Pro Deluxe Bluetooth Transmittor.

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See Also is 100! But you'd never tell because we moisturise. Thank you for listening to and enjoying the pod – it's a pleasure to bring you silly-smart conversations every week.

Also celebrating their birthdays this week are Sofia Coppola – who turned 53 on Tuesday – and her debut feature The Virgin Suicides, which came out 25 years ago. To mark two of these three occasions (guess which), Kate and Brodie go deep on the Lisbon sisters and the boys who loved them.

Even if you're seen the film a million times, it holds up to a re-watch – trust us.

We cover the Eugenides BTS cynicism, Hartnett at his prime, Trip's gay dad(s), the time Brodie met Kathleen Turner, memory's flimsy logic and the time Kate first tried Pepsi Max, the comedy Sofia never gets credit for and the image-making she's so skilled at, the boys who'll always remember and the girls who were never really theirs/there.

See Alsos

• “The Virgin Suicides” Still Holds the Mysteries of Adolescence by Emma Cline
• “They Hadn’t Heard Us Calling” by Megan Abbott
• Why I’m obsessed with this dark, dreamy novel" by Dizz Tate
• Sofia Coppola’s Bedrooms by Katie McDonough
• Scores on Screen. Clouds Up: Air and the Soundtrack of "The Virgin Suicides" by Clare Nina Norelli
• Josh Hartnett on THE kiss
• Dan Levy's story of visiting the set
• Kiki in Interview in 2000
• Sofia Coppola x Tavi Gevinson in Rookie
• Tavi Gevinson on The Virgin Suicides in NPR in 2012
• Bill Owens book 'Suburbia'
• Idea LTD
• Air will play Moon Safari at the Sydney Opera House for VIVID

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This episode opens with a live review of the Hailey Bieber smoothie from Erewhon. Jinxy's sipping her way across LA, and fills us in on brunch at Canter's, an iconic but annoying day out with Angelyne at the Pleasure Chest, and an enviable visit to Noodle Stories. She's hit the Vanderpump Triangle in WeHo – but only to Bottega Louie, not TomTom (yet).

BL goes deep on a night with Niall Horan and a life-changing day at SPUDFEST in Trentham. Is she the spudman after all?

Then it's time for a discussion of our favourite Highsmith menacing gay, Tom Ripley, and the latest Netflix iteration of the guy who "likes" "girls", from creator/writer Steve Zaillan.

See Alsos

The Garden Against Time by Olivia Laing

The American Friend (1977) by Wim Wenders

The Night Of

Also Alsos

Here in the Pitch by Jessica Pratt

Hacks season 3 (on Stan in Australia)

Ed Ruscha / Now Then retrospective at LACMA

Soft Services Software Update

Vegethreads Organic classic T

Archive No. 1 by Hattie Stewart (with an intro by Brodie!)

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This week, Kate and Brodie participate in their pre-scheduled catch-up time – you know how friends do that?

Kate's in LA and packed badly, watched 3 Body Problem, attempted to go to Schwartz and Sandy's, keeps seeing Cybertrucks, visited the Indigo Girls-themed bathroom at Rubyfruit and caught up on Mission Impossible on the plane. BL has to do a quick post-season recap of Vanderpump Rules, had a bit of an annoying trip to Sydney, devolves into a complaint about circus performers in hotels, watched an entire movie on free-to-air TV and experienced a very silly case of mistaken identity at France-Soir.

If you're in LA, come see Zoe's show Every Single Thing in My Whole Entire Life at UCB on Fairfax 6 May as part of Netflix is a Joke festival.

See Also

• Ingrid Goes West
• Kajillionaire
• The First Bad Man a book club based on a novel by Miranda July
• Cole Escola on Straightiolab
• The Sydney airport train

Also Alsos

• HB Achive's Poet shirt
• Another Slice by Nat Paull
• Carrot, Fennel and Wild Rice Soup
• D'Arcy'Carden's podcast Wikihole
• Violette Bisou Balm FR in Amour Fou from Mecca
• Inner Studio

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Then, we discuss the disgraceful new Amy Winehouse biopic Back to Black, a debrief on the massive, overwhelming and excellent Alex Garland film Civil War.

Skip from 35:08 – 55:43 for Civil War spoilers.

See Also

• Amy (2015) by Asif Kapadia
• Mark Ronson on working with Amy Winehouse
• New Yorker Critics at Large episode on Civil War
• Kirsten Dunst in Variety
• Kirsten Dunst on choosing roles with female directors
• Men (2022)
• Power of the Dog (2021)

Also Alsos

• Hate Read, anonymous essays in Deez Links
• Steve! on Apple TV+
• Robe 3–in-1: Clean & Finish haircare
• CosRX Good Morning Low-pH Gel Cleanser
• Autumn Also playlist
• Get your flu and booster vaxx!!

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In this re-release of a classic Poodle episode, Kate and Brodie come together to discuss Girlfriends, Claudia Weill's directorial debut from 1978, and an absolutely perfect film. Co-written by Vicki Polon, it starts Melanie Mayron as Susan Weinblatt, who has a perfect face and spends her days shooting bar mitzvahs and waiting for her big, artistic break in late-'70s New York City. When her best friend and roommate, Anne (Anita Skinner), a writer, gets married and moves out of their apartment, Susan searches for ways to repair her loneliness. She meets Eric (a hunky young Christopher Guest), grows close to Rabbi Aaron Gold (Eli Wallach), brings home a hitchhiker named Ceil (Amy Wright) and tries to bridge the distance by spending time upstate with Anne and her husband, Martin (Bob Balaban). A film about friendship, making art and platonic love, Girlfriends is so much more than the sum of its parts and a tidy plot summary. Seek it out as soon as you can!

See Alsos

• BL's piece in the Guardian
• Stanley Kubrick interview
• Turner Classic Movies intro to Girlfriends
• Claudia Weill speaking about Girlfriends at BAM, BFI and UCLA; on Criterion and Bobbie Wygant.
• Millie De Chirico's podcast I Saw What You Did with Danielle Henderson

Watch Also

• Joyce at 34 (See Also for us!!)
• It's My Turn
• Crossing Delancey

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This week, Brodie is joined by Isobel Beech, the author of a true See Also FAVE book Sunbathing, to discuss the work of another a fellow auteur, Jennifer Lopez. Issy is trying to start a movement, and spread the word about JLo's "feature film" This Is Me … Now and its companion making-of documentary The Greatest Love Story Never Told. So consider this episode activism.

We discuss the way she handles mud, her obsession with "The Block", how insuring your butt was 2000s culture, the "Zodiacal Council", and everyone dressing like they're extras on Younger. Brodie pitches a Freaky Friday reboot with her and JLo, and Issy declares, "There's nothing that JLo does that can't be done by someone else" … except this movie!!!

See Also

Buy a copy of Sunbathing

Pop Stars vs the attention economy

Wesley Morris on This Is Me … Now

Also Alsos

Sinus irrigation

Beautician and the Beast

Reality Day

Amy Odell's newsletter Back Row

Mariah Carey's 2018 album Caution

Get Right, JLo's 2001 single

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Right in with RHONY news: they're all back, minus Cass Bird. BL had an aborted trip to Sircuit, visited country Victoria again and tries to explain a techno event collab slash dinner that gets Very Melbourne. And Jinxy spent Easter going The Most Sydney: on a boat. Also: Girls 5Eva is Kate's favourite band.

Go see Zoe Coombs Marr's show Every Single Thing in My Whole Entire Life.

Then, we discuss the end (?) of the TradWife, and follow its threads into "DIML" content, the flattening of a life for clicks and what happens when all an audience can wonder about it is "where'd you get it?" We talk about hiding our content, out-of-pocket DMs and why subscribing for specific content is good, actually?

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See Also

• Palm Royale cocktail guide
• The Rise and Fall of the Trad Wife by Sophie Elmhirst
• Alison Roman's newsletter entry on "recommendation culture"

Also Alsos

• Expats
• Ceremonia Guava Rescue Spray
• Jessica Pratt's mix for NTS: RHYTHM ON THE WEST
• Matéo soda
• Read your own library
• WeTransfer presents: The Day I Met Bjork. Photographs by Spike Jonze

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Then: biceps up. It's LOVE LIES BLEEDING TIME! To avoid spoilers, skip from 24:28 – 54:22

We discuss the audience reaction, the pulpy energy, the merch (and missed opportunities), the macho sluts, Anna Baryshnikov comedy genius, Jenna Malone perfect casting, the better Franco brother, Ed Harris's hair. And Brodie, shockingly, explains the plot of Stepmom to Kate.

See Also

• Love Lies Bleeding playlist
• Saint Maud (2019) is streaming on SBS on Demand and you can rent it from Apple TV, YouTube etcet
• Kristen Stewart Uncensored: ‘I Want to Do the Gayest Thing You’ve Ever Seen in Your Life’ in Rolling Stone
• Gerber/Hart Library & Archives on Instagram
• Pumping Iron II: The Women (1985) doc
• Ali Kazma's video art piece Bodybuilding (2013)
• Katy O'Brian interview in She's A Beast

Also Alsos

• Ear Alchemy by Sarah and Sebastian
• The Theatre of War - Stanislava Pinchuk – on at ACMI til 9 June
• Perfect Days by Wim Wenders is out now in cinemas
• Carlton Gardens Tennis Club
• She's on the Money podcast
• Samin Nosrat on Modern Love podcast

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This week, Brodie was assigned the identity of a passenger who died the Titanic and it was GREAT!!! Jinxy had a recent perfect weekend itinerary with her sister. Do any straight men listen to this podcast???

Brodie explains the Tones and I origin story to Kate (sorry) then they discuss Two Weeks' Notice (important movie for girls who eat and poo a lot and fall) and cowabunga-ing at Timmy riding the worm in Dune. The girls have been watching: Southern Charm, The Regime, Mary and George.

THEN it's time to discuss the arguments between society women past and present: first in RHOBH, which wrapped this past week, and Feud: Capote vs the Swans.

Prepare for next week by going to the movies to watch Love Lies Bleeding – next week we're talking about every set, rep and pump.

See Also

• The cast of Feud: Capote's women vs their real-life counterparts
• The Vulture recaps (better than the show some of the time)
• That Summer documentary
• In Cold Blood (good book)
• Feud review by Mike Hail in the New York Times
• The Lee Radziwill bag from Tory Burch

Also Alsos

• Byredo Lip Liner (from Mecca)
• Titanic: The Artefact Exhibition – on til 21 April at Melbourne Museum
• Cinemagoer website
• Summer House on Hayu
• Baggu Cloud Carry–On (in black)
• The Hours (bonus: Michael Cunningham is appearing at MWF on Wed 8 May)

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Happy anniversary to us! Jinxy and BL debrief of the discourse around "girlhood" culture in light of the Barbie oscars snub, Gracie Abrams bows and Sofia Coppola of it all. They chat about TikTok users' blatant attempts to go viral with girl-branding ("Sleepy Girl Mocktail"), previous girl culture moments that did more than just wear pink. "Can we just go ahead and have IBS without making it into some signifier of hot girlness or cute little babyness?"

Tweet by @ronantyche: "barbie movie discourse is so funny because it's just a fun silly movie for the girls until you say anything against it, then it's modern day feminist text, and then when you critique it like feminist text youre misogynistic and insulting something fun and silly for the girls".

See Also:

• Woman in Retrograde By Isabel Cristo
• Celine Sciamma's Girlhood (2014)
• Girl Culture in the Middle Ages and Renaissance: Performance and Pedagogy by Deanne Williams
• No More Girlies By Emily Gould
• Taylor Swift and the Era of the Girl
• Jinxy's Paloma Wool earrings
• Shaad on Indie Sleaze
• Sentimental Garbage: How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days

Also Alsos

How to Have Sex by Molly Manning Walker, now in cinemas

In Priscilla, She’s the Girl Who Has Everything — Except Actual Power By Alison Willmore

Vaster Wilds by Lauren Groff

Camp Cope Live at the Sydney Opera House

Pat McGrath's MattTrance lipstick in "Forbidden Love (Ultimate Classic Red)"

L.A. Woman by Eve Babitz

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Kate and Brodie recap their viewing, visiting, dining and doing habits since Jinxy's return from Berlin. But first: Jinxy went to the Gold Coast Golden Globes aka the AACTAs! No Margot sighting though, sadly. Jinxy ate at Sway in Neukoln, got chicken in her "vegetarian miso bowl" and discovered some troubling reviews of a sauna. Between them, she and BL watched Awakenings, Primal Fear & The Devil's Own, the new Mr & Mrs Smith series, Safe and The Iron Claw. Brodie appropriated comedy culture and would like to apologise to the community.

Then! Spoiler alert! They do a full-season recap of True Detective: Night Country. The unreliable narrators, phone-detectiving, "heterosexual jump scares", frozen scientists, lost tongues and Billie Eilish theme songs our North Country girlies had to endure.

Skip to 1:08:53 to avoid True Detective spoilers.

See Alsos:

"Podcasters Took Up Her Sister's Murder Investigation. Then They Turned On Her" on The Sunday Read

Wake Up The Town ad

Cecilia from Svolbard

Also Alsos

• How to Pack for a Two–Week Trip with One Small Suitcase
• 10 Years of Late Night with Seth Meyers
• Muji Portable Aroma Diffuser
• 'Video Land' by Callum Preston at Immigration Museum's 'Joy' exhibition at Immigration Museum
• The Decadent Editions
• Sundae from Sundae School Ice Creamery

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This week, Kate and Brodie are being so decadent, so silly, so Mary! They're going deep on Daisy Von Scherler Mayer's 1995 cult classic, Party Girl, a movie that follows Parker Posey as Mary, who would like a nice powerful mind-altering substance, preferably something that will make her unborn children grow gills, before learning the Dewey Decimal System. We get into designer vs vintage, Liev Schreiber's British accent (better or worse than Brodie's BE HONEST?!), building main characters from all the side characters in other films, meeting the party girls in our own lives, Sisyphus being totally famous, the truth of the film's cultural insensitivities, where has pashing on screen gone, being daffy, The "Lady" Bunny as Itself, getting sick of all the street fashion in London … all those hats, librarians getting silly on the dancefloor. Am I a freak?!

See Also

• Fashion in Party Girl
• 25th Anniversary of Party Girl
• A Little Glam Girl in a Big Bad City
• Parker Posey on Party Girl in Little White Lies
• The Secret History of Party Girl
• Party Girl is Back in Town
• 200 Cigarettes
• Letterbox reviews: director Daisy von Scherler Mayer and music supervisor Bill Coleman read reviews
• Parker Posey, queen of indie
• Rich Juzwiak on Party Girl in Jezebel
• Picture me in a library, that's funny! "Am I a freak?"

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It's a very special holiday Poodle episode! This week, for Valentine's Day, Brodie is joined by Monica Heisey, author of Really Good, Actually and the brains behind the new romantic comedy series Smothered (on Binge in Australia!) to discuss the iconic chain-smoking spinster, Bridget Jones and her titular Diary.

Together they discuss Hugh Grant's aversion to being a heartthrob and his tendency to be HACKED OFF, how getting a leatherbound diary is a rite of passage for women writers, Helen Fielding as the UK's Candace Bushnell, getting sprogged up (yuck), Mark Darcy's "work wife", when would Daniel ever have told Lara Bridget was thin?, getting a job in telly, aspiring to be a cigarette smoking woman with an apartment, we have so much to thank Richard Curtis for, and does the rom-com need a rebrand or do we just need to show them some goddamned respect.

See Also:

An Oral History of Bridget Jones's Diary

The long drunken profile of Hugh Grant

Laura Snapes on BJD in the Guardian

"A Character Actress Trapped in an Ingenue's Body"

Also Alsos:

Monica recommends: Bread and Butter Chardonnay + The Rachel Incident by Caroline O'Donohue

Brodie recommends: Eligible by Curtis Sittenfeld + the Netflix doco series on Robbie Williams

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Kate went to see The Breeders and they stole our gear, Brodie didn't fuck up her birthday for once, Merce Cunningham's ashes on RHOBH is Jinxy's Scandoval, Courtney Barnett and Stella Mozgawa join us to chat about their Desert Island TV shows, including Love Has Won, MILF Manor, Vanderpump Rules, and Real Housewives of Melbourne. The convo goes, as it always would, to a place of Cults.

Also Alsos

Kate

Stone Yard Devotional by Charlotte Wood

The vegan pistachio gelato from Pidapipo

Brodie

Yirinda S/T album, out on Chapter Music

Monica by Daniel Clowes

Courtney

La Copine 

Sheryl Crowe and Stevie Nicks sing Strong Enough 

Stella

Madison Avenue: Everything You Need/Who The Hell Are You at the 2000 ARIA Awards

The Integratron 

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This week, Junxy is back from a trup across the dutch! (so sorry). Are Hugos the drink of the summer? She reccs a yummy lunch at Amano, dinner at Coco Cantina ("what's the K Road of Melbourne?) and sips at Annabel's Wine Bar. BL got a good dose of Sydney – Sweeney and the city – in Anyone But You, the literal weirdest movie of all time???

Quick plug: Brodie is hosting an event about Taylor Swift and music criticism with Brittany Spanos. Hope you can come!

Then: we chat about MAY DECEMBER and ALL OF US STRANGERS, before dipping behind the spoiler noise to keep a few things under wraps.

Timecodes in case you gotta skip:

May December chat: 16:08 – 35:00

MAY DECEMBER SPOILERS: 35:02 – 50:32

All of us Strangers chat: 50:49 – 55:33

ALL OF US STRANGERS SPOILERS: 55:36 – 1:18:38

ALSO ALSOS FROM 1:18:40

See Also

• The Go-Between
• 1985 by Yen Tan
• John Waters' Role Models
• Tampa by Alissa Nutting
• A Teacher by Hannah Fidell
• Lila Shapiro's feature on real-life age gap couples
• The Eternal Daughter
• Banana Yoshimoto novels
• Strangers by Taichi Yamada
• Housemartins
• Songs that Make Paul Mescal Feel Something
• NT Live: Vanya is now screening across Australia
• Pet Shop Boys Dreamworld Live: The Hits – in cinemas now
• Andrew Haigh's Weekend
• Blue Jean (for the older lesbian Section 28 experience)

Also Alsos

• In the Sun with Éric Rohmer series at Golden Age Cinema
• ima asa yoru
• Pici
• Get On Your Knees on Netflix
• The Woman Who Spent Five Hundred Days in a Cave, by D.T. Max in the New Yorker
• Thick and Rich manicures

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This week, Kate's been slipping back into her old Sydney life, talking Housewives with strangers and visiting Georgiana Houghton's 'Invisible Friends' show at AGNSW. Brodie snuck a novel into Boiler Room, is baffled by young people's bags and pours one out for Pitchfork, following the news it will be folded into GQ. Jinxy finally saw Wonka and it's fun to disagree on stuff!!!!!!!!!

Then, they chat about Palme D'or and Palme D'og winner Anatomy of a Fall, a fantastic new adult courtroom drama that makes the "who dun it?" the least important topic. They talk French court (psycho!), 50 Cent and Henry Thomas's audition tape for E.T.

See Also

• The Wife (novel by Meg Wolitzer + film by Björn Runge)
• Toni Erdmann
• The Aisles
• Sylvia
• BL's pieces on Sleater-Kinney and Gracie Abrams
• How professional musicians who are mothers deal with the industry
• Doreen St Felix's 'The Prosperity Gospel of Rihanna'
• The Atlantic on how few places there are to meaningfully engage with music
• Ezra Klein on Pitchfork (and collapsing journalism) in the NYT

Also Alsos

• Dry Cleaning's reissue of Sweet Princess and Boundary Road Snacks and Drinks
• True Detective: Night Country on Binge
• Yorgos Lanthimos retrospective @ Europa! Europa! festival
• Bubble, alternative to Sodastream canisters
• Liana Satenstein's newsletter NEVERWORNS (and the saga of Max on her Instagram)
• Philips Steam & Go Plus portable steamer

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It's here. It's finally our time to talk about Priscilla, the ninth film by Sofia Coppola. We discuss sitting inside the jewel box of Priscilla's life, and the film's window into her discomfiting dynamic with Elvis, Priscilla finally finding some agency when she preg, female horniness, how would Elvis say "Lydia Tar", Brodie does some red string between Elordi's Elvis and Austin Butler's Elvis and the real Elvis and Priscilla and the Kardashians (stick with it).

Then: we love our curvy wife, the book Sofia Coppola Archive 1999–2023. There's so much great stuff in it and we list our fave bits, then dream up all the other stuff it could've included.

See Also

• Priscilla inspiration playlist for Sofia
• "This Priscialla is all interiority" by Rax King
• "She says good-bye in pants"
• Sofia + Celine Song in conversation
• Allison Wilmore's Priscilla review in Vulture
• Watch 'Lick the Star'
• Sofia aged 5 being interviewed by her dad
• Sofia Coppola’s Best Needle Drops
• Listen to our Hi Octane episode

Also Alsos

• John Wilson Selects at Antenna Documentary Film Festival
• White Grapefruit Mixed Soda by Ordinary Soda
• "When I Met the Pope" by Patricia Lockwood
• Watch How to Blow Up a Pipeline on Stan
• Bijou Bottle Store & Bar on Little Collins St
• Casey Johnston's Liftoff (Couch to Barbell)

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This week, Kate and Brodie chat about being diagnosed with the Sunday Scaries tonsilitis, wearing a button-up to the club, Francis Ford Coppola being a proud uncle, Nicolas Cage getting that face moving in Dream Scenario, disappointing Bottoms, not Jo Koy. BL has to do a tight 10 on Mean Girls and then they both move on to the main event in Burn Book news: Monica on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City undoing all her goodwill in the first part of the reunion. (Skip from 17:00 – 37:00 if you're not an RHOSLC girl.) They discuss the brown leg holes of housewives' spray tans, Americans being bad at puns, the SLC Good Karma Network, Top Chef's empath tendencies and what do SLC Greeks make of Angie K?

Then they ski over to London for a chat about Poor Things, Jinx nayms'um (specifically her aesthetic bugbears where this movie is concerned), Bella Baxter is Jack in Francis Ford Coppola's Jack, the eventual baby is the trickiest part of Benjamin Button, the cycle of cruelty and abuse depicted in Poor Things, the feminist criticisms of it, and we hope the people on the nine-month cruise are getting this educated.

Next week we're covering Priscilla – finally!

See Also

• Rajiv Surendra's YouTube videos about "the creative domestic arts"
• The Deep Dive With Jamie Stein
• The Bravo Docket
• Emma Stone wants Yorgos Lanthimos to make a Jen Shah film
• Ramy
• City of Lost Children
• Emma Stone interviewing Holly Waddington
• Poor Things’s Costume Designer On Creating A Sexually Liberated Fashion Fantasia in Vogue UK
• Hanna Schygulla on Fassbinder

Also Alsos

• Showing Up at Golden Age in Sydney
• Farmers Markets
• "Tired? Distracted? Burned–Out?" on Ezra Klein's NYT podcast
• Julia season 2
• Nyad on Netflix
• Waxahatchee's Right Back to It

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Kate and Brodie are back from hols and chatting about Caroline Polachek, BL getting bootlegged, Jinxy's annual holiday party, turns out shaking cocktails does something??, planning for the year, Doing Q1, sorry for talking about budgeting and protein!!!, watching The Crown; Wonka; Signs; Asteroid City; Squid Game and Leave the World Behind.

Next week we're covering Poor Things and Real Housewives of Salt Lake City! Consider this your (reality von) tease to get up to date!

See Also

Abracadabra Dept – Kate's newsletter

Saturday Paper Quiz Season 4 Finale

Also Alsos

• Cherry 75, an incredibly festive cocktail! Gin, lemon juice, generous splash of maraschino cherry syrup, topped off with champagne and a maraschino cherry in a coupe glass
• Hillvale, an independent photo lab created by photographers, for photographers
• Katie Merchant's newsletter "thank you, ok"
• Andy Cohen's Daddy Diaries podcast
• Pan Pan's The First Bad Man: A Book Club Based on the Novel by Miranda July runs Fri 5 Jan – Sun 13 as part of Under the Radar at Lincoln Center
• Ann Friedman serialised essay on parenthood in her newsletter. Click to sign up and also find the archive :)

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It's our very special holiday Poodle episode! This week, Kate is joined by Chelsea Fairless, co-host of Every Outfit on SATC, for the now-annual lesbian Christmas episode. This year, they're discussing Clea Duvall's 2020 comedy (?) Happiest Season.

They discuss the wig, the chemistry (and lack thereof) between Harper (Mackenzie Davis) and Abby (KStew), the weirdly ill-timed family politics, is this queer canon?, the warm embrace of a gay bar compared to "Fratty's", Chelsea's flocked tree and does Kate hate weddings?

See Also:

Clea DuVall interviewed by Natasha Lyonne in Interview

KStew on playing gay

Buzzfeed quiz: https://www.buzzfeed.com/jamiejirak1/happiest-season-character-quiz

The Family Stone

Totino's sketch with Kristen Stewart on SNL

Also Alsos:

Chels recommends: Dog Christmas costumes, John Waters tree ornament, The Odeon snow globe

Jinxy recommends: Four Pillars Christmas Gin, Mali Bakes Festive Cakes, Holiday Memories incense by Paine's

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This week, Kate and Brodie are back from the movies and ready to debrief. Jinxy celebrated the opening of Lorne Cinema with a screening of Stop Making Sense, and Brodie loved Beyoncé's concert film, but why does everything need to be 3 hours long? Jinx is more of a Solange girl and one thing we can agree on is being absolutely chilled by Jonathan Glazer's The Zone of Interest. Our friend and card-carrying member of the Hogg Hive, Tam Zimet, dials in from a Q&A with mutha Joanna in Edinburgh, and got the scoop of Tilda's alibi for missing it. We decide we're not Girls on Top girls but we support the lowercase-G girls regardless. Then we visit the Michigan farm of Lara, the deeply normal protagonist of Ann Patchett's Tom Lake who had a very abnormal youth, as an actress and lover of an actor we think might actually have been based on Tom Hanks.

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See Also

How to Practice

Lisa Barlow auditioning for Our Town

These Precious Days

Also Alsos

Agnès Varda: Director's Inspiration (a recommendation for Kate's girlfriend to buy her for Christmas)

Charlotte Adigéry and Bolis Pupul Australian tour

time.is

Mountain Eye Hobart

Greta Gerwig interviewed by Jesse Armstrong

Fluffy brows

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This week, Jinxy is back from India and ready to chat about a very slippery massage, being trapped in a sauna, seeing Priscilla, Real Housewives of Sydney's Biv-pigs and A Very Jewish Christmas Carol. BL is back from the recent indie sleaze past, had a religious experience seeing Tracey Emin this week and couldn't cope with the singing in a recent musical film.

Then it's time to talk about SALTBURN, director Emerald Fennell's latest movie that just didn't hit for us. We talk about the critical response, and Ms Fennel's response to it, Jacob Elordi bathwater (BL will buy a six-pack), the suspension of period sex disbelief and when referencing other works falls apart.

If you're yet to see Saltburn and want to avoid SPOILERS, SKIP FROM 36.53 - 58.41

See Also

"The Wildness of Barry Keoghan" in GQ from last year

The English Eccentrics by Edith Sitwell from 1933

Truman Capote's "La Côte Basque, 1965”

Saltburn: Can posh people write good class satire?

"A whiff of misogyny.”

Also Alsos

El Rahman Inc. @Instagram

Medicins sans Frontieres

D.S and Durga Portable Christmas Tree candle

Sylvie touring across the east coast in December

E Nolan shirts

Art Garments vintage

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Then we pop over to 2018 for Luca Guadagnino's remix of Suspiria. The dream sequences are very mirror, father, mirror, it's all *so* German, how it's similar to Eva Longoria's Flamin' Hot Cheetos movie, why Chloe Grace Moretz (like One Direction) will never be iconic, Paris Bar, don't order oysters in Berlin, Helena Markos's little hands, THEE Wall, Time Out Berlin says the Markos Academy is so hot, Tilda doing bits.

See Alsos

• Russian synchronised swimmers at the 2012 Olympics
• Argento in AnOther magazine
• Interview with Jessica Harper
• Harvey Sutherland Neurotic merch inspired by Neu!
• Argento in Interview
• In Fabric
• Berberian Sound Studio
• Baader Meinhof Complex film (2008)
• Documentary "A German Youth"
• Piece on the 2018 prosthetics
• Luca Guadagnino on IndieWire podcast
• Nate Jones's primer on German history
• Stacie Ponder's 'Final Girl' blog about the feminist art references/appropriations
• Luca Guadagnino being silly in Vulture

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This week, Jinxy is in home reno mode and her two-factor-authentication era, she had her Mecca Aesthetica Facial and we both want to be tucked in, BL had a flop evening in the city, Jinxy is going back to India to do some A&R for the local serenaders. We announce our next live show, and move into a major reality tv recap.

On Selling Sunset season 7, Marie-Lou is coming for Chrishell with crusty lips, everyone is bringing blankets, a scary Vanderpump Rules connection, dinners on 360 rooftop, Bikini Elvis playing at The Wet Area tonight, the motivational speaker's 62 attributes on his soulmate treasure list.

Then it's housewives time: Real Housewives of Sydney are all giving puppy, Sutton on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills wore pants for nothing, a post-season post-mortem on Real Housewives of New York, the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are facing a lawsuit and going Mommy Dearest.

See Also

Charlie Shackleton's cinematic protest film 'Paint Drying' is playing at QGOMA as part of the Cinema Obstructed series he also co–curated 10–29 Nov

Hunter Harris's newsletter, Hung Up

Real Housewives Smoking's post

Luxe Listings Sydney S3 on Amazon Prime

Also Alsos

DINE ALSO: Raja Sydney, an Indian restaurant on Kellett St, Potts Point

BAG ALSO: Pali Baskets – from Abbotsford Convent Regional Farmers' Market or online

LISTEN ALSO: The New Yorker Critics at Large podcast

STATIONERY ALSO: Midori MD Notebooks from Bookbinders – specifically the 'A5 - Codex 1 Day 1 Page' and the 'A5 - Dot Grid'

SUSTAINABILITY ALSO: Black Fridye by Citizen Wolf

KIMCHI ALSO: The house brand kimchi from KT Mart on Elizabeth St

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Also Alsos

• COMEDY ALSO: Zoë Coombs Marr's new show Every Single Thing in My Whole Entire Life (A Perpetual Work in Progress) is on at Comedy Republic on 23 November and 7 December
• SWIM ALSO: YouSwim
• PROTECT ALSO: Moth spray from Gram
• QUIZ ALSO: Trivia @ the Keys on Wednesday Nights
• STORE ALSO: Kowtow has opened on Gertrude St in Melbourne!
• CLASS ALSO: BL is hosting a Writer's Vic event on writing and money on November 28

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See Also

BL's profile on Troye Sivan is the cover story in this weekend's Good Weekend (in The Age and SMH)

Also Alsos

Chris recommends

Fancy Italian toothbrushes

Officine Universelle Buly

The Belair Lip Bombs

Jason recommends

Julie Restaurant

This movie called Priscilla

NPCede

Kate recommends

ART ALSO: Marc Hundley monograph The Voyage Out (see also: Chris's recent interview with Marc in GQ)

SYDNEY ALSO: Amuro – new Japanese sake spot in Surry Hills

LISTEN ALSO – Autumn Mix by Arp / Alexis Georgopoulos on NTS

Brodie recommends

WATCH ALSO: Melbourne Queer Film Festival, which runs 9-19 November

SNACK ALSO: The prawn cocktail from the Royal Oak Hotel

STRETCH ALSO: Free Pilates in the Park with Sebastian Coles at MPavilion – Tue 5, 12 and 19 December 2023, 7am—8am

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PSA: We're poodling Suspiria (Dario Argento, 1977) and Suspiria (Luca Guadagnino, 2018) on a future episode. This is your notice to start heading to dance school.

See Alsos

• The Ringer's SCREAM oral history (read / listen)
• On Scream 3's Harvey Weinstein analog, and Rose McGowan's book
• BL's article on Sid and survivors (it's not very good!!)
• @cyguy83 on Instagram (not CyGuy88 as Brodie called him in the ep)
• The Final Girls podcast
• Drew Barrymore's haunting talk show interview with the cast promoting 5cream, and talking about her role in the original

Watch Also

• Black Christmas

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See Also

Follow @dreamtime–aroha – blak-owned business, artists also looking after community – for ways to donate, pay the rent and pay it forward

Donate to their Christmas Food Vouchers for Mob & Allies in Need gofundme

7am podcast's 'The Fight for a Voice' series

One Big Love

Mecca Aesthetica

Get tickets to BL's event Desire, I Want To Turn Into You: Caroline Polachek In Conversation

BL's piece on Real Housewives of Sydney

Also Alsos

LISTEN ALSO: ABC RN'S Big Ideas podcast

JAM ALSO: France @ Home, source of the Bonne Maman advent calendar (read also: Grub Street's 'Jarheads' piece)

DINE ALSO: The simple thing of Having People Over For Dinner

FOLLOW ALSO: Nasunochorakuji on YouTube and Tiktok

SIP ALSO: SENZA aperitifs

FOLLOW ALSO: @CinemaSpells

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See Also

True Obsession with John Early & Toni Collette

Matt Day in Love & Other Catastrophes (1996)

Matt Day in My Year Without Sex (2009)

Unofficial merch by Human Boy Worldwide

Love Serenade (1996)

Making Muriel on ABC iView

Me, Myself, I (2000)

Celebrity Big Brother Australia (2002)

THE FACE's oral history of the Waterloo scene

Also Alsos

Kate

DINE ALSO: Julie, the new spot at Abbotsford Convent

READ ALSO: Corita Kent: Ordinary Things Will Be Signs for Us"

Brodie

SIP ALSO: Capi tonic water

LIP ALSO: M·A·C Cosmetics Velvet Blur Slim Stick Lipstick

Maria

VACCUUM ALSO: The Roborock S7

TEETH ALSO: Waterpik cordless flosser

Harvey Sutherland

DUB ALSO: Babylon + Lovers Rock, screening at Thornbury Picture House with an intro by Dennis Bovell, as part of The Eighty-Six Festival

Meg (aka KUZCO)

POSTER ALSO: Food For Everyone

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This week, Kate and Brodie do an impromptu Tight Ten on Fitzroy Pool: whether it has more literary (Helen Garner), musical (Courtney Barnett) or fragrance (Troye Sivan) associations. BL loves being someone's "all shapes and sizes" and Jinxy does a live-react to Tsu Lange Yor's "Pool" fragrance. Jinxy saw La Chimera again and you just gotta, BL is exploring the country for old men movies, they chat about The Row pre-fall 2024, Jenna Lyons staying at Chateau Voltaire, and the influence of Cass Bird's iconic flashing photo on RHONY.

They dig into Marisa Meltzer's NYT story on 15 years of Goop and cover the impact of the celeb recommendation site (from Poosh and Meghan Markle's "Tig", Lorde's newsletter, Dua Lipa's podcast), aggressive cedar scents, Gwyneth's one-cigarette-a-week policy and, apparently Goop Kitchen great?, Girltalk DJ'ed Gwyneth's wedding, Hot Crone Summer incoming.

THEN (it's a big one this week!) they dig into Celine Song's debut feature Past Lives, the early Skype / Facebook interfaces, the slippiness of time & memory, critiques of its sentimentality, and the heaving sobs as the lights come up.

See Also

Taffy Brodesser-Akner's Gwyneth profile

GP's recent sponcon

Lauren Oyler on the Goop Cruise

Bethenny Frankel's bad standup

The Dream podcast

'Celine Dion sings love songs while our cities burn'

'Space & Time: A Note From Celine Song'

Daniel Rossen's You Belong There

John Magaro Alsos

First Cow

Showing Up

Carol

Holiday Cocktail Lounge

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

Also Alsos

BURN ALSO: Nonna's Grocer candles

WATCH ALSO: Italian Film Festival

SWIM ALSO: Dock & Bay Stripe Cabana Microfibre Towel

SWIM ALSO: Speedo Endurance Leaderback Sport Legsuit

BIKINI LINE ALSO: Wax with Jen @ Miss Jay's

TREAT ALSO: Sundae School Ice Creamery

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Then, they debrief on Allison P. Davis's viral-by-design article Why Can't Our Friendship Survive Your Baby? and discuss wanting to see the baby, wanting to be Anette Bening in 20th Century Women, and Samin Nosrat cooking a whole rack of lamb for kids. (She would!)

Also: Alsos!

ICYMI: See Also Live at the Wheeler Centre with special guest Maria Angelico is happening on 10 October and is on sale now. Use the code SEEALSO for 15% off your ticket to our show. Chic.

See Alsos

Why Can’t Our Friendship Survive Your Baby?

The research on reproductive identity Ann Freidman mentioned in her newsletter

Anne Helen Peterson's newsletter 'How to Show Up For Your Friends Without Kids — and How to Show Up For Kids and Their Parents aka How to Be in a Community'

The Other Significant Other: Reimagining Life with Friendship at the Center by Rhaina Cohen

The Spoils by Olivia Laing

Also Alsos

WATCH ALSO: Theatre Camp

READ ALSO x 2: Bring No Clothes: Bloomsbury and the Philosophy of Fashion by Charlie Porter + 'The Bloomsbury Group is Back in Fashion' by Rebecca Mead

SUBSCRIBE ALSO: Jamie Alyson Feldman's newsletter

LISTEN ALSO: Romy 'Mid Air'

EAT ALSO: Masses Bagels

COLLECT ALSO: Re:Search

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Back soon with a regular episode!

Kiss kiss.

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See Also:

• The geocities-looking site "Temporal Anomalies in Time Travel Movies" (the one with a section called The Bitch is Magic about the dog)

Also Alsos:

Emma recommends ARQ High-Rise Undies

Brodie recommends Beaumaris Modern by Fiona Austin from Bookshop by Uro

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Also Alsos

READ ALSO: Ann Patchett's piece in British Vogue: What I Learnt From Giving Up Shopping For A Year

WATCH ALSO: Telemarketers on Binge

DRINK ALSO: Spritz Veneziano by Grupetto

SKIN ALSO: Felicity West Skin Aesthetics

NAIL ALSO: J.Hannah

WATCH ALSO: Sick of Myself out in Australia on October 5

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See Also

Doll and Em (on Stan)

Can You Ever Forgive Me?

Also Alsos

READ ALSO: Isabella Trimboli's essay "Life's Work" in HEAT literary journal

SNACK ALSO: Funday lollies

CHIC ALSO: Black linen suit (Tamara Blazer + Amira pant) from Alpha60

STRETCH ALSO: Body Concert pilates by Kasia Lynch

DRINK ALSO: Vivelo Tea

WATCH ALSO: Godland, directed by Hlynur Pálmason

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The meanest, coolest, hottest girls in Reagan High School play their annual birthday morning prank on their friend Liz Purr, but things go awry when Liz chokes to death on a Jawbreaker. Courtney (Rose McGowan) and her henchwomen Julie (Rebecca Gayheart) and Marcie (Julie Benz) do their best to cover their tracks, and implicating our queen Fern Mayo (Judy Greer) in the process. They transform her into Vylette (learn it, live it, love it) and fumble their way through a criminal investigation led by Judy's sister Pam Grier.

Kate and Brodie talk their very different relationships to the film, the "80s does 50s" style, fellating an icepop, Rose McGowan's feud against Can't Hardly Wait, the links to Do Revenge and The Donnas.

See Also:

Jawbreaker 20th anniversary oral history

Rose McGowan and Darren Stein on Jawbreaker

Perverting the Youth of America: the oral history of teen classic, Jawbreaker

Yoo Hoo by Imperial Teen music video

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