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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Elena Lappin in conversation with leading authors about the stories behind their books.</p><p>Email: shoptalk.writers@gmail.com</p><p>Instagram: @shoptalkwithwriters</p><p>Newsletter: <a href="https://elenalappin.substack.com/s/shop-talk-with-writers-newsletter" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/s/shop-talk-with-writers-newsletter</a></p><p>Connect with us here or on our website https://shows.acast.com./shop-talk-with-writers</p><p>Thank you for listening!</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Ep.25: SHARON GLESS</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 12:04:55 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[On her memoir 'APPARENTLY THERE WERE COMPLAINTS']]></itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Summary:</p><p>Award-winning American actress Sharon Gless (Cagney&amp;Lacey co-star) in conversation with host Elena Lappin about her powerful memoir APPARENTLY THERE WERE COMPLAINTS (Simon&amp;Schuster)..</p><p>Key topics:</p><ul><li>Sharon Gless’s childhood experiences and the impact of her parents’ divorce</li><li>How acting served as a form of self-preservation and identity</li><li>The motivation behind her memoir and its themes of honesty and humour</li><li>Differences between acting roles and writing about her own life</li><li>The significance of her role in pioneering TV roles for women in the 70s and 80s</li><li>Insights into her process of developing characters and backstories</li><li>The importance of active listening, both in acting and life</li><li>Personal reflections on feeling like an outsider and the power of self-acceptance</li><li>Behind-the-scenes stories from "Cagney and Lacey," including collaboration on scripts</li><li>Her experiences living and working in London and her love for the city</li><li>The dynamic relationship with her co-star Tyne Daly and their off-screen bond</li><li>The influence of her grandmother and family on her life and career</li><li>Her thoughts on the evolution of television storytelling and female representation</li><li>Her outlook on the future and embracing new roles and identities</li></ul><p>Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro and Sharon Gless’s childhood struggles 00:44 - The role of acting as emotional self-defense 02:12 - Reading from her autobiography "Apparently There Were Complaints" 02:38 - Making wishes during storms and unexpected life changes 03:07 - How a CBS meeting led to her memoir 04:07 - Challenges of writing and self-reflection 05:06 - Feelings of not belonging and the comfort of acting 05:35 - Her loyalty to acting as her lifelong love 06:34 - Her approach to character development and authenticity 07:02 - Memorable performances and moments of belonging 07:31 - Universal Studios memories and her career beginnings 09:58 - Influences from her childhood and important figures like Monique James 10:18 - The power of her chapter reading and audience reactions 10:59 - Comparing past TV storytelling with today’s content 11:30 - The honesty and rawness of classic TV stories 12:47 - The material and brilliance behind "Cagney and Lacey" 13:25 - Contributing to scripts and character development 14:17 - Playing Cagney’s struggle with alcoholism and her real-life journey 15:26 - Differences between acting and writing her personal experiences 17:29 - Childhood family dynamics and influential figures 19:14 - The emotional muscles she developed to survive early trauma 20:17 - The significance of feeling dead inside and acting as a safety mechanism 21:19 - Celebrating her portrayal of diverse characters across roles 22:34 - Her acting technique of backstory development 23:21 - Using imagination and research to embody characters 24:11 - Her stage work in London and productions in the West End 25:01 - Her love for London and its cultural resonance 26:11 - Fascinating women in her memoir, like her grandmother and Monique James 27:33 - Lessons learned from her mentor about listening and authentic expression 29:23 - The importance of connection and understanding others in storytelling 30:03 - Her brother Michael’s inspiring story and personal struggles 31:09 - Imagining a film about her family and life stories 31:30 - The on-screen and off-screen relationship with Tyne Daly 32:44 - Her love for her career and early studio life 33:39 - The unique idea of quotes on her book’s back cover 35:37 - Final gratitude and appreciation for her candid storytellingResources &amp; Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Apparently-There-Were-Complaints-Gless/dp/XXXXXX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apparently There Were Complaints by Sharon Gless</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nmXXXXXX/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sharon Gless - IMDb</a></li><li><a href="https://www.universalstudios.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Universal Studios Official Site</a></li><li><a href="https://www.audible.com/pd/XX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Audible - Apparently There Were Complaints</a></li><li><a href="https://instagram.com/sharongless" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sharongless.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Official Website</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Summary:</p><p>Award-winning American actress Sharon Gless (Cagney&amp;Lacey co-star) in conversation with host Elena Lappin about her powerful memoir APPARENTLY THERE WERE COMPLAINTS (Simon&amp;Schuster)..</p><p>Key topics:</p><ul><li>Sharon Gless’s childhood experiences and the impact of her parents’ divorce</li><li>How acting served as a form of self-preservation and identity</li><li>The motivation behind her memoir and its themes of honesty and humour</li><li>Differences between acting roles and writing about her own life</li><li>The significance of her role in pioneering TV roles for women in the 70s and 80s</li><li>Insights into her process of developing characters and backstories</li><li>The importance of active listening, both in acting and life</li><li>Personal reflections on feeling like an outsider and the power of self-acceptance</li><li>Behind-the-scenes stories from "Cagney and Lacey," including collaboration on scripts</li><li>Her experiences living and working in London and her love for the city</li><li>The dynamic relationship with her co-star Tyne Daly and their off-screen bond</li><li>The influence of her grandmother and family on her life and career</li><li>Her thoughts on the evolution of television storytelling and female representation</li><li>Her outlook on the future and embracing new roles and identities</li></ul><p>Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro and Sharon Gless’s childhood struggles 00:44 - The role of acting as emotional self-defense 02:12 - Reading from her autobiography "Apparently There Were Complaints" 02:38 - Making wishes during storms and unexpected life changes 03:07 - How a CBS meeting led to her memoir 04:07 - Challenges of writing and self-reflection 05:06 - Feelings of not belonging and the comfort of acting 05:35 - Her loyalty to acting as her lifelong love 06:34 - Her approach to character development and authenticity 07:02 - Memorable performances and moments of belonging 07:31 - Universal Studios memories and her career beginnings 09:58 - Influences from her childhood and important figures like Monique James 10:18 - The power of her chapter reading and audience reactions 10:59 - Comparing past TV storytelling with today’s content 11:30 - The honesty and rawness of classic TV stories 12:47 - The material and brilliance behind "Cagney and Lacey" 13:25 - Contributing to scripts and character development 14:17 - Playing Cagney’s struggle with alcoholism and her real-life journey 15:26 - Differences between acting and writing her personal experiences 17:29 - Childhood family dynamics and influential figures 19:14 - The emotional muscles she developed to survive early trauma 20:17 - The significance of feeling dead inside and acting as a safety mechanism 21:19 - Celebrating her portrayal of diverse characters across roles 22:34 - Her acting technique of backstory development 23:21 - Using imagination and research to embody characters 24:11 - Her stage work in London and productions in the West End 25:01 - Her love for London and its cultural resonance 26:11 - Fascinating women in her memoir, like her grandmother and Monique James 27:33 - Lessons learned from her mentor about listening and authentic expression 29:23 - The importance of connection and understanding others in storytelling 30:03 - Her brother Michael’s inspiring story and personal struggles 31:09 - Imagining a film about her family and life stories 31:30 - The on-screen and off-screen relationship with Tyne Daly 32:44 - Her love for her career and early studio life 33:39 - The unique idea of quotes on her book’s back cover 35:37 - Final gratitude and appreciation for her candid storytellingResources &amp; Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Apparently-There-Were-Complaints-Gless/dp/XXXXXX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apparently There Were Complaints by Sharon Gless</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nmXXXXXX/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sharon Gless - IMDb</a></li><li><a href="https://www.universalstudios.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Universal Studios Official Site</a></li><li><a href="https://www.audible.com/pd/XX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Audible - Apparently There Were Complaints</a></li><li><a href="https://instagram.com/sharongless" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">stagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sharongless.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Official Website</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Ep: 24: MARGARET BUSBY</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2026 15:29:38 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><br></p><p>Elena Lappin explores the remarkable life and work of Margaret Busby, in conversation with the pioneering publisher, editor, and author, through her personal stories, insights on publishing, and reflections on music and culture. A celebration of the publication of Margaret Busby's new book PART OF THE STORY: WRITINGS FROM HALF A CENURY (Hamish Hamilton).</p><p>The episode is dedicated to Margaret Busby"s favourite music charity, TOMORROW's WARRIORS.</p><br><p>&nbsp;keywords</p><br><p>Margaret Busby, publishing, black writers, literature, music, autobiography, Daughters of Africa, Tomorrow's Warriors, black culture, literary history</p><br><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;key&nbsp;topics</p><br><p>Margaret Busby's early life and education in Ghana and England</p><p>Founding of Alison and Busby publishing house</p><p>Publishing influential black writers and anthologies</p><p>Reflections on her personal writings and memoir</p><p>Her passion for music and support for Tomorrow's Warriors</p><br><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;guest&nbsp;name</p><br><p>Margaret Busby</p><br><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;key&nbsp;frameworks</p><br><p>Chronological organization of writings</p><p>Passing knowledge and passing it on</p><br><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;action&nbsp;items</p><br><p>Explore Margaret Busby's writings and anthologies</p><p>Support Tomorrow's Warriors and similar initiatives</p><p>Reflect on the importance of passing on cultural knowledge</p><br><p><br></p><p>Titles</p><br><p>Margaret Busby: A Life in Publishing and Music</p><p>From Ghana to the World: The Margaret Busby Story</p><br><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;sound bites</p><br><p>"Not a day passes without my mother being in my thoughts."</p><p>"Putting together this book was like my life’s work."</p><p>"Music is serious; I believe it’s as serious as your life."</p><br><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><br><p>00:00 Introduction and Margaret Busby's Background</p><p>01:20 Her Publishing Career and Notable Authors</p><p>02:20 Her Passion for Music and Tomorrow's Warriors</p><p>03:10 Reading from 'Part of the Story' - Personal Reflections</p><p>23:41 Assembling the Book: Challenges and Process</p><p>26:49 Reflections on Publishing and Personal Life</p><p>44:28 Key Writings and Influences in Her Career</p><p>52:36 Titles and Themes of the Book Sections</p><p>01:07:51 Why Margaret Writes and Publishes</p><p>01:11:49 Legacy, Inspiration, and Closing Remarks</p><br><p>&nbsp;resources</p><br><p>Tomorrow's Warriors - https://www.tomorrowswarriors.org/</p><p>Daughters of Africa (Book) - https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Daughters+of+Africa</p><p>Margaret Busby on Twitter - https://twitter.com/MargaretBusby</p><br><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;guest links</p><br><p>Twitter - https://twitter.com/MargaretBusby</p><p>Official Website - https://www.hamishhamilton.co.uk/authors/margaret-busby</p><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p><br></p><p>Elena Lappin explores the remarkable life and work of Margaret Busby, in conversation with the pioneering publisher, editor, and author, through her personal stories, insights on publishing, and reflections on music and culture. A celebration of the publication of Margaret Busby's new book PART OF THE STORY: WRITINGS FROM HALF A CENURY (Hamish Hamilton).</p><p>The episode is dedicated to Margaret Busby"s favourite music charity, TOMORROW's WARRIORS.</p><br><p>&nbsp;keywords</p><br><p>Margaret Busby, publishing, black writers, literature, music, autobiography, Daughters of Africa, Tomorrow's Warriors, black culture, literary history</p><br><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;key&nbsp;topics</p><br><p>Margaret Busby's early life and education in Ghana and England</p><p>Founding of Alison and Busby publishing house</p><p>Publishing influential black writers and anthologies</p><p>Reflections on her personal writings and memoir</p><p>Her passion for music and support for Tomorrow's Warriors</p><br><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;guest&nbsp;name</p><br><p>Margaret Busby</p><br><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;key&nbsp;frameworks</p><br><p>Chronological organization of writings</p><p>Passing knowledge and passing it on</p><br><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;action&nbsp;items</p><br><p>Explore Margaret Busby's writings and anthologies</p><p>Support Tomorrow's Warriors and similar initiatives</p><p>Reflect on the importance of passing on cultural knowledge</p><br><p><br></p><p>Titles</p><br><p>Margaret Busby: A Life in Publishing and Music</p><p>From Ghana to the World: The Margaret Busby Story</p><br><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;sound bites</p><br><p>"Not a day passes without my mother being in my thoughts."</p><p>"Putting together this book was like my life’s work."</p><p>"Music is serious; I believe it’s as serious as your life."</p><br><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><br><p>00:00 Introduction and Margaret Busby's Background</p><p>01:20 Her Publishing Career and Notable Authors</p><p>02:20 Her Passion for Music and Tomorrow's Warriors</p><p>03:10 Reading from 'Part of the Story' - Personal Reflections</p><p>23:41 Assembling the Book: Challenges and Process</p><p>26:49 Reflections on Publishing and Personal Life</p><p>44:28 Key Writings and Influences in Her Career</p><p>52:36 Titles and Themes of the Book Sections</p><p>01:07:51 Why Margaret Writes and Publishes</p><p>01:11:49 Legacy, Inspiration, and Closing Remarks</p><br><p>&nbsp;resources</p><br><p>Tomorrow's Warriors - https://www.tomorrowswarriors.org/</p><p>Daughters of Africa (Book) - https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Daughters+of+Africa</p><p>Margaret Busby on Twitter - https://twitter.com/MargaretBusby</p><br><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;guest links</p><br><p>Twitter - https://twitter.com/MargaretBusby</p><p>Official Website - https://www.hamishhamilton.co.uk/authors/margaret-busby</p><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Ep.23: FRANCIS SPUFFORD</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2026 17:18:28 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Blitz and Beyond in NONESUCH: The Creative World of Francis Spufford</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><br></p><br><p>In this in-depth interview with host Elena Lappin, novelist and non-fiction writer Francis Spufford discusses his latest novel NONESUCH, set during the London Blitz, blending historical detail with supernatural elements. He explores London's layered history, character development, and the interplay of fact and fiction, offering insights into his creative process and thematic interests.</p><br><p>Keywords</p><br><p>Francis Spufford, Nonesuch, London Blitz, historical fiction, literary fiction, supernatural, city as character, novel writing, creative process, WWII London, fantasy in fiction, fascism, the occult, angels, bombing, war, family, love, early technology</p><br><p>Key&nbsp;topics</p><br><p>Blitz era London and its supernatural reinterpretation</p><p>London as a character in fiction</p><p>Historical layers of London and their influence on storytelling</p><br><p>Guest&nbsp;name</p><br><p>Francis Spufford, Novelist</p><p>NONESUCH is published by Faber</p><br><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;sound bites</p><br><p>"Play is very serious for a maker."</p><p>"London is a character in this novel."</p><p>"The Blitz is London's epic moment."</p><br><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><br><p>00:00 Introduction and author background</p><p>01:08 Setting the scene: London during the Blitz</p><p>04:37 London's layered history and fictional streets</p><p>09:40 The supernatural elements and historical occultism</p><p>14:34 The role of London as a character in the novel</p><p>19:30 Character development: Iris and her world</p><p>23:12 Themes of darkness, evil, and supernatural forces</p><p>27:21 Historical influences and literary inspirations</p><p>36:47 Transition from nonfiction to fiction writing</p><p>41:24 Playfulness and imagination in Spufford's writing</p><p>44:34 The challenge of channeling C.S. Lewis</p><p>50:24 Belief, faith, and the supernatural in storytelling</p><p>53:46 Why Francis Spufford writes: storytelling as understanding</p><br><p>&nbsp;resources</p><br><p>None Such by Francis Spufford - https://www.faber.co.uk/9780571366074-none-such.html</p><p>Francis Spufford's Official Website - https://francisspufford.com</p><p>London Blitz History - https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/blitz_01.shtml</p><br><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;guest links</p><br><p>Twitter - https://twitter.com/FrancisBufford</p><p>Website - https://francisspufford.com</p><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p><br></p><br><p>In this in-depth interview with host Elena Lappin, novelist and non-fiction writer Francis Spufford discusses his latest novel NONESUCH, set during the London Blitz, blending historical detail with supernatural elements. He explores London's layered history, character development, and the interplay of fact and fiction, offering insights into his creative process and thematic interests.</p><br><p>Keywords</p><br><p>Francis Spufford, Nonesuch, London Blitz, historical fiction, literary fiction, supernatural, city as character, novel writing, creative process, WWII London, fantasy in fiction, fascism, the occult, angels, bombing, war, family, love, early technology</p><br><p>Key&nbsp;topics</p><br><p>Blitz era London and its supernatural reinterpretation</p><p>London as a character in fiction</p><p>Historical layers of London and their influence on storytelling</p><br><p>Guest&nbsp;name</p><br><p>Francis Spufford, Novelist</p><p>NONESUCH is published by Faber</p><br><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;sound bites</p><br><p>"Play is very serious for a maker."</p><p>"London is a character in this novel."</p><p>"The Blitz is London's epic moment."</p><br><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><br><p>00:00 Introduction and author background</p><p>01:08 Setting the scene: London during the Blitz</p><p>04:37 London's layered history and fictional streets</p><p>09:40 The supernatural elements and historical occultism</p><p>14:34 The role of London as a character in the novel</p><p>19:30 Character development: Iris and her world</p><p>23:12 Themes of darkness, evil, and supernatural forces</p><p>27:21 Historical influences and literary inspirations</p><p>36:47 Transition from nonfiction to fiction writing</p><p>41:24 Playfulness and imagination in Spufford's writing</p><p>44:34 The challenge of channeling C.S. Lewis</p><p>50:24 Belief, faith, and the supernatural in storytelling</p><p>53:46 Why Francis Spufford writes: storytelling as understanding</p><br><p>&nbsp;resources</p><br><p>None Such by Francis Spufford - https://www.faber.co.uk/9780571366074-none-such.html</p><p>Francis Spufford's Official Website - https://francisspufford.com</p><p>London Blitz History - https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/blitz_01.shtml</p><br><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;guest links</p><br><p>Twitter - https://twitter.com/FrancisBufford</p><p>Website - https://francisspufford.com</p><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Ep.22: JULIAN BORGER</title>
			<itunes:title>Ep.22: JULIAN BORGER</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2026 11:09:29 GMT</pubDate>
			<itunes:duration>57:56</itunes:duration>
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			<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA['I SEEK A KIND PERSON': The Hidden Stories of Refugees]]></itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
			<itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Summary</p><br><p>In this episode of Shop Talk with Writers, Guardian foreign correspondent Julian Borger tells host Elena Lappin about his book <a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0C2YM5M94/?crid=1GOG1JKCBCI7&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.uTc64q8tqIS9-s5L---5bESJUWYGo--RfrAS76kVb5w2pSSix9ofhZY94zCn1S_ZdK54G57QIfn3zZO_B52MsK3Pew1T4laTHxuvQskEqvk.TuCB--Bx9T9938GYi2wIlR9x0ypnE6e7nr_V3RC6YMM&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=julian+borger&amp;ni=1&amp;ni_pt=SR&amp;qid=1769806758&amp;sprefix=julian+borger%2Caps%2C179&amp;sr=8-1&amp;ref_=aau_ios_h5f" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I SEEK A KIND PERSON: MY FATHER, SEVEN CHILDREN AND THE ADVERTS THAT HELPED THEM ESCAPE THE HOLOCAUST</a>.  He discusses his family's past and the stories of other children who were also refugees, highlighting the importance of understanding and remembering these narratives. The discussion also touches on the complexities of belonging and the legacy of trauma passed down through generations.</p><br><p>The episode also features the charity SHELTERBOX, an organisation which provides help  worldwide to communities in crisis via their book club, the <a href="www.shelterbox.org/book-club" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ShelterBox Book Club</a>. </p><br><p>Keywords</p><br><p>Julian Borger, I Seek a Kind Person, Holocaust, children, survivors, refugee stories, family history, trauma, identity, belonging, memoir, investigative journalism</p><br><p>Takeaways</p><br><p>Julian Borger's book is a personal exploration of his father's refugee experience.</p><p>The emotional impact of discovering a family advert seeking a foster parent.</p><p>The silence surrounding trauma in refugee families is a common experience.</p><p>Borger's investigative journalism approach helped uncover hidden family histories.</p><p>The importance of kindness in the context of refugee experiences.</p><p>Understanding the dual identity of being a refugee and assimilating into a new culture.</p><p>The book connects the stories of multiple refugee children from the same era.</p><p>Borger reflects on the pressures his father faced as a refugee.</p><p>The significance of remembering and honoring those lost in the Holocaust.</p><p>The journey of writing the book transformed Borger's understanding of his family.&nbsp;</p><br><p><br></p><p>Titles</p><br><p>Unveiling Family Secrets: Julian Borger's Journey</p><p>The Hidden Stories of Refugees: A Conversation with Julian Borger</p><br><p><br></p><p>Sound bites</p><br><p>"The past is never dead, it's not even past."</p><p>"I was running away from something."</p><p>"I came to see the boy hidden inside the man."</p><br><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><br><p>00:00 The Journey Begins: Discovering Family History</p><p>07:01 Unpacking the Book: Themes and Inspirations</p><p>13:49 The Silence of the Past: Understanding Trauma</p><p>22:04 Connecting Stories: The Lives of Refugee Children</p><p>30:14 The Impact of Secrecy: A Father's Legacy</p><p>36:52 Reflections on Identity: Belonging and Displacement</p><p>44:05 Transformative Discoveries: Understanding Family Dynamics</p><p>50:56 Cultural Connections: The Influence of History on Art</p><br><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Summary</p><br><p>In this episode of Shop Talk with Writers, Guardian foreign correspondent Julian Borger tells host Elena Lappin about his book <a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0C2YM5M94/?crid=1GOG1JKCBCI7&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.uTc64q8tqIS9-s5L---5bESJUWYGo--RfrAS76kVb5w2pSSix9ofhZY94zCn1S_ZdK54G57QIfn3zZO_B52MsK3Pew1T4laTHxuvQskEqvk.TuCB--Bx9T9938GYi2wIlR9x0ypnE6e7nr_V3RC6YMM&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=julian+borger&amp;ni=1&amp;ni_pt=SR&amp;qid=1769806758&amp;sprefix=julian+borger%2Caps%2C179&amp;sr=8-1&amp;ref_=aau_ios_h5f" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I SEEK A KIND PERSON: MY FATHER, SEVEN CHILDREN AND THE ADVERTS THAT HELPED THEM ESCAPE THE HOLOCAUST</a>.  He discusses his family's past and the stories of other children who were also refugees, highlighting the importance of understanding and remembering these narratives. The discussion also touches on the complexities of belonging and the legacy of trauma passed down through generations.</p><br><p>The episode also features the charity SHELTERBOX, an organisation which provides help  worldwide to communities in crisis via their book club, the <a href="www.shelterbox.org/book-club" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ShelterBox Book Club</a>. </p><br><p>Keywords</p><br><p>Julian Borger, I Seek a Kind Person, Holocaust, children, survivors, refugee stories, family history, trauma, identity, belonging, memoir, investigative journalism</p><br><p>Takeaways</p><br><p>Julian Borger's book is a personal exploration of his father's refugee experience.</p><p>The emotional impact of discovering a family advert seeking a foster parent.</p><p>The silence surrounding trauma in refugee families is a common experience.</p><p>Borger's investigative journalism approach helped uncover hidden family histories.</p><p>The importance of kindness in the context of refugee experiences.</p><p>Understanding the dual identity of being a refugee and assimilating into a new culture.</p><p>The book connects the stories of multiple refugee children from the same era.</p><p>Borger reflects on the pressures his father faced as a refugee.</p><p>The significance of remembering and honoring those lost in the Holocaust.</p><p>The journey of writing the book transformed Borger's understanding of his family.&nbsp;</p><br><p><br></p><p>Titles</p><br><p>Unveiling Family Secrets: Julian Borger's Journey</p><p>The Hidden Stories of Refugees: A Conversation with Julian Borger</p><br><p><br></p><p>Sound bites</p><br><p>"The past is never dead, it's not even past."</p><p>"I was running away from something."</p><p>"I came to see the boy hidden inside the man."</p><br><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><br><p>00:00 The Journey Begins: Discovering Family History</p><p>07:01 Unpacking the Book: Themes and Inspirations</p><p>13:49 The Silence of the Past: Understanding Trauma</p><p>22:04 Connecting Stories: The Lives of Refugee Children</p><p>30:14 The Impact of Secrecy: A Father's Legacy</p><p>36:52 Reflections on Identity: Belonging and Displacement</p><p>44:05 Transformative Discoveries: Understanding Family Dynamics</p><p>50:56 Cultural Connections: The Influence of History on Art</p><br><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Ep.21: MOIRA BUFFINI (Part 2)</title>
			<itunes:title>Ep.21: MOIRA BUFFINI (Part 2)</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2026 23:27:11 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Part 2 of our Deep Dive with the author of the bestselling TORCH trilogy (SONGLIGHT, TORCHFIRE)</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
			<itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Summary</p><br><p>In this episode of Shop Talk with Writers, host Elena Lapin engages in a deep conversation with novelist Moira Buffini about her works, particularly her novels 'Songlight' and 'Torchfire.' Buffini reflects on the themes of trust and division in her fictional town of North Haven, drawing parallels to her own experiences growing up in a divided society influenced by the historical context of Northern Ireland. She discusses the importance of exploring complex relationships, particularly between mothers and daughters, and how these dynamics are often underrepresented in literature. Buffini also addresses the challenges of categorizing her work within the YA genre, emphasizing the emotional truths and societal issues her characters navigate, including the implications of misogyny and the expectations placed on young women in a dystopian setting.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Keywords</p><br><p>Moira Buffini, Songlight, Torchfire, dystopian fiction, YA literature, mother-daughter relationships, societal issues, writing process, speculative fiction, emotional truth, political fantasy, historical parallels</p><br><p><br></p><p>Takeaways</p><br><p>There's nothing in these books that hasn't happened somewhere in the world.</p><p>Mothers are extraordinary figures with both light and darkness in their relationships.</p><p>Speculative fiction allows us to explore societal issues in a different light.</p><p>The emotional truth in writing is what makes a story beautiful.</p><p>Young women need to navigate difficult realities, and literature can help arm them.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Titles</p><br><p>Exploring Dystopia: Moira Buffini on 'Songlight' and 'Torchfire'</p><p>The Emotional Truth in Dystopian Fiction with Moira Buffini</p><br><p><br></p><p>Sound bites</p><br><p>"I drew on my great love of history."</p><p>"Why is the exploration of difficult relationships not acceptable?"</p><p>"Speculative fiction is a great way of distilling out the confusion."</p><br><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><br><p>00:00 Introduction to Moira Buffini and Her Works</p><p>02:09 Themes of Trust and Division in North Haven</p><p>04:24 Mother-Daughter Relationships in Literature</p><p>07:03 Navigating YA Genre and Emotional Truth</p><p>10:50 Exploring Misogyny and Societal Expectations</p><p>18:14 The Role of History in Buffini's Writing</p><p>24:11 Speculative Fiction as a Reflection of Now</p><p>30:06 The Freedom and Challenges of Writing Across Mediums</p><p>34:08 Why Moira Buffini Writes</p><br><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Summary</p><br><p>In this episode of Shop Talk with Writers, host Elena Lapin engages in a deep conversation with novelist Moira Buffini about her works, particularly her novels 'Songlight' and 'Torchfire.' Buffini reflects on the themes of trust and division in her fictional town of North Haven, drawing parallels to her own experiences growing up in a divided society influenced by the historical context of Northern Ireland. She discusses the importance of exploring complex relationships, particularly between mothers and daughters, and how these dynamics are often underrepresented in literature. Buffini also addresses the challenges of categorizing her work within the YA genre, emphasizing the emotional truths and societal issues her characters navigate, including the implications of misogyny and the expectations placed on young women in a dystopian setting.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Keywords</p><br><p>Moira Buffini, Songlight, Torchfire, dystopian fiction, YA literature, mother-daughter relationships, societal issues, writing process, speculative fiction, emotional truth, political fantasy, historical parallels</p><br><p><br></p><p>Takeaways</p><br><p>There's nothing in these books that hasn't happened somewhere in the world.</p><p>Mothers are extraordinary figures with both light and darkness in their relationships.</p><p>Speculative fiction allows us to explore societal issues in a different light.</p><p>The emotional truth in writing is what makes a story beautiful.</p><p>Young women need to navigate difficult realities, and literature can help arm them.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Titles</p><br><p>Exploring Dystopia: Moira Buffini on 'Songlight' and 'Torchfire'</p><p>The Emotional Truth in Dystopian Fiction with Moira Buffini</p><br><p><br></p><p>Sound bites</p><br><p>"I drew on my great love of history."</p><p>"Why is the exploration of difficult relationships not acceptable?"</p><p>"Speculative fiction is a great way of distilling out the confusion."</p><br><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><br><p>00:00 Introduction to Moira Buffini and Her Works</p><p>02:09 Themes of Trust and Division in North Haven</p><p>04:24 Mother-Daughter Relationships in Literature</p><p>07:03 Navigating YA Genre and Emotional Truth</p><p>10:50 Exploring Misogyny and Societal Expectations</p><p>18:14 The Role of History in Buffini's Writing</p><p>24:11 Speculative Fiction as a Reflection of Now</p><p>30:06 The Freedom and Challenges of Writing Across Mediums</p><p>34:08 Why Moira Buffini Writes</p><br><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Ep.20: MOIRA BUFFINI (PART 1)</title>
			<itunes:title>Ep.20: MOIRA BUFFINI (PART 1)</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2026 20:36:56 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>On TORCHLIGHT, Book 2 of her dystopian trilogy</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Keywords</p><br><p>dystopian fiction, telepathy, Songlight, Torch Trilogy, character development, creative writing, Moira Buffini, storytelling, female empowerment, world-building</p><br><p>Summary</p><br><p>In this wide-ranging conversation, acclaimed novelist, playwright and screenwriter Moira Buffini discusses her dystopian trilogy, the Torch Trilogy, which explores themes of telepathy, connection, and the struggles of young women against oppressive regimes. The dialogue delves into Buffini's creative process, her transition from playwriting to novel writing, and the intricate character development that brings her world to life. The discussion also highlights the moral complexities of her characters, particularly the antagonists, and the overarching themes of communication and empowerment in her storytelling.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Takeaways</p><br><p>The world of Songlight is set thousands of years in the future.</p><p>Buffini's writing is influenced by her background in playwriting.</p><p>The trilogy explores themes of telepathy and connection.</p><p>Character development is central to the storytelling process.</p><p>Buffini aims to write stories that resonate with her heart.</p><p>The intimacy of novel writing differs from playwriting.</p><p>Buffini's characters are often named for their traits or roles.</p><p>The antagonist, Zara Swan, is a complex character shaped by trauma.</p><p>The trilogy emphasizes the power of young women standing together.</p><p>Buffini believes in the importance of intuitive communication.&nbsp;</p><br><p><br></p><p>Titles</p><br><p>Exploring the Dystopian World of Songlight</p><p>The Creative Journey of Moira Buffini</p><br><p><br></p><p>Sound bites</p><br><p>"This is my heart song."</p><p>"Song is a central human thing."</p><p>"I keep going back to writing."</p><br><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><br><p>00:00 Introduction to the Dystopian World of Songlight</p><p>07:58 The Creative Process Behind the Torch Trilogy</p><p>15:30 The Transition from Playwriting to Novel Writing</p><p>21:05 Character Development and Perspectives</p><p>30:54 Themes of Connection and Communication</p><p>39:24 Complex Antagonists and Moral Ambiguity</p><br><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Keywords</p><br><p>dystopian fiction, telepathy, Songlight, Torch Trilogy, character development, creative writing, Moira Buffini, storytelling, female empowerment, world-building</p><br><p>Summary</p><br><p>In this wide-ranging conversation, acclaimed novelist, playwright and screenwriter Moira Buffini discusses her dystopian trilogy, the Torch Trilogy, which explores themes of telepathy, connection, and the struggles of young women against oppressive regimes. The dialogue delves into Buffini's creative process, her transition from playwriting to novel writing, and the intricate character development that brings her world to life. The discussion also highlights the moral complexities of her characters, particularly the antagonists, and the overarching themes of communication and empowerment in her storytelling.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Takeaways</p><br><p>The world of Songlight is set thousands of years in the future.</p><p>Buffini's writing is influenced by her background in playwriting.</p><p>The trilogy explores themes of telepathy and connection.</p><p>Character development is central to the storytelling process.</p><p>Buffini aims to write stories that resonate with her heart.</p><p>The intimacy of novel writing differs from playwriting.</p><p>Buffini's characters are often named for their traits or roles.</p><p>The antagonist, Zara Swan, is a complex character shaped by trauma.</p><p>The trilogy emphasizes the power of young women standing together.</p><p>Buffini believes in the importance of intuitive communication.&nbsp;</p><br><p><br></p><p>Titles</p><br><p>Exploring the Dystopian World of Songlight</p><p>The Creative Journey of Moira Buffini</p><br><p><br></p><p>Sound bites</p><br><p>"This is my heart song."</p><p>"Song is a central human thing."</p><p>"I keep going back to writing."</p><br><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><br><p>00:00 Introduction to the Dystopian World of Songlight</p><p>07:58 The Creative Process Behind the Torch Trilogy</p><p>15:30 The Transition from Playwriting to Novel Writing</p><p>21:05 Character Development and Perspectives</p><p>30:54 Themes of Connection and Communication</p><p>39:24 Complex Antagonists and Moral Ambiguity</p><br><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Ep.19: GARY GULMAN</title>
			<itunes:title>Ep.19: GARY GULMAN</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2025 17:20:33 GMT</pubDate>
			<itunes:duration>45:36</itunes:duration>
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			<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[On his memoir 'Misfit']]></itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
			<itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Summary</p><br><p>In this conversation with host Elena Lappin, Gary Gulman discusses his memoir 'Misfit', reflecting on his journey as a writer and comedian. He shares insights into the writing process, the importance of storytelling, and the influence of teachers and mentors in his life. The discussion also explores the adaptation of his memoir into a stand-up show, the challenges of writing about personal experiences, and his aspirations for future writing projects.</p><br><p>Keywords</p><br><p>memoir, storytelling, comedy, writing process, adaptation, character voices, teachers, personal growth, future aspirations, Gary Gulman</p><br><p>Takeaways</p><br><p>Gary's storytelling ability was recognized by a professor early on.</p><p>Writing projects in school were a refuge for Gary.</p><p>Humour can be a coping mechanism for deeper emotions.</p><p>The process of adapting a memoir into a stand-up show is complex.</p><p>Character voices in writing can bring realism to the narrative.</p><p>Teachers can have a profound impact on a student's life.</p><p>Writing requires discipline and practice to improve.</p><p>The memoir reflects a blend of vulnerability and humour.</p><p>Gary's relationship with his mother influenced his writing.</p><p>Future writing aspirations include exploring fiction.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Titles</p><br><p>The Art of Storytelling with Gary Gulman</p><p>Misfit: A Journey Through Comedy and Writing</p><br><p>Chapters</p><br><p>00:00 The Journey to Storytelling</p><p>05:40 Exploring Misfit: A Memoir</p><p>10:47 The Art of Adaptation: From Page to Stage</p><p>16:50 Character Voices and Realism in Writing</p><p>22:50 The Impact of Teachers and Mentors</p><p>32:20 Writing Process and Personal Reflections</p><p>38:15 Future Aspirations: Novels and Beyond</p><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Summary</p><br><p>In this conversation with host Elena Lappin, Gary Gulman discusses his memoir 'Misfit', reflecting on his journey as a writer and comedian. He shares insights into the writing process, the importance of storytelling, and the influence of teachers and mentors in his life. The discussion also explores the adaptation of his memoir into a stand-up show, the challenges of writing about personal experiences, and his aspirations for future writing projects.</p><br><p>Keywords</p><br><p>memoir, storytelling, comedy, writing process, adaptation, character voices, teachers, personal growth, future aspirations, Gary Gulman</p><br><p>Takeaways</p><br><p>Gary's storytelling ability was recognized by a professor early on.</p><p>Writing projects in school were a refuge for Gary.</p><p>Humour can be a coping mechanism for deeper emotions.</p><p>The process of adapting a memoir into a stand-up show is complex.</p><p>Character voices in writing can bring realism to the narrative.</p><p>Teachers can have a profound impact on a student's life.</p><p>Writing requires discipline and practice to improve.</p><p>The memoir reflects a blend of vulnerability and humour.</p><p>Gary's relationship with his mother influenced his writing.</p><p>Future writing aspirations include exploring fiction.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Titles</p><br><p>The Art of Storytelling with Gary Gulman</p><p>Misfit: A Journey Through Comedy and Writing</p><br><p>Chapters</p><br><p>00:00 The Journey to Storytelling</p><p>05:40 Exploring Misfit: A Memoir</p><p>10:47 The Art of Adaptation: From Page to Stage</p><p>16:50 Character Voices and Realism in Writing</p><p>22:50 The Impact of Teachers and Mentors</p><p>32:20 Writing Process and Personal Reflections</p><p>38:15 Future Aspirations: Novels and Beyond</p><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Ep.18: ANN MORGAN</title>
			<itunes:title>Ep.18: ANN MORGAN</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2025 14:05:07 GMT</pubDate>
			<itunes:duration>58:49</itunes:duration>
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			<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA['RELEARNING TO READ: ADVENTURES IN NOT-KNOWING']]></itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
			<itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Show Notes/Summary</strong></p><br><p>In this episode, host Elena Lappin welcomes novelist and international book blogger Ann Morgan to discuss her thought-provoking new book,&nbsp;<em>Relearning to Read: Adventures in Not Knowing</em>. The conversation delves into the transformative power of reading and the importance of humility and openness when encountering unfamiliar narratives. Morgan shares her personal journey of unlearning traditional reading habits shaped by academic expectations and the liberating experience of engaging with literature from diverse cultures. Through anecdotes from her time volunteering with the Samaritans and her encounters with extraordinary individuals, she illustrates the profound connection between reading and understanding others' stories. This episode invites listeners to embrace the adventure of reading with curiosity and an open mind.</p><p><strong>Keywords</strong></p><p>Shop Talk With Writers, Ann Morgan, Relearning To Read, Adventures In Not Knowing, International Literature, Samaritans, Emotional Support, Reading Experience, Curiosity In Reading, Children's Literature, Graphic Novels, Literary Analysis, Writing Process, Cultural Perspectives, Literary Traditions, Book Blogging, Cross-Cultural Reading, Humility In Reading, Reader-Writer Collaboration, Creative Writing</p><p><strong>Takeaways</strong></p><p>Reading requires humility and openness to different perspectives.</p><p>Volunteering can reshape one's understanding of narratives.</p><p>Children's reading habits reflect a natural acceptance of stories.</p><p>Relearning to read involves embracing childlike wonder.</p><p>Education can impose restrictive reading frameworks.</p><p>Gender dynamics affect academic performance in reading and writing.</p><p>Creative interpretation is essential in understanding literature.</p><p>Digital reading influences reader engagement and collaboration.</p><p>Curiosity fosters deeper connections with diverse cultures.</p><br><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><br><p>00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest</p><p>01:16 Exploring the Concept of Reading</p><p>03:45 The Impact of Volunteering on Reading Perspectives</p><p>06:04 Childhood Experiences and Early Writing</p><p>09:04 The Influence of Children’s Reading Habits</p><p>10:58 Relearning to Read with Childlike Wonder</p><p>12:17 The Role of Education in Shaping Reading</p><p>15:13 Gender Dynamics in Academic Reading and Writing</p><p>19:03 The Art of Creative Interpretation in Reading</p><p>22:23 Openness in Reading and Understanding Different Cultures</p><p>27:03 Reading from Diverse Global Perspectives</p><p>30:04 The Writer's Freedom and Boldness in Storytelling</p><p>31:36 The Collaborative Nature of Reading and Writing</p><p>34:57 The Influence of Digital Reading on Reader Experience</p><p>38:34 The Universality of Literature and Reader Engagement</p><p>44:54 Personal Stories and Connections Through Literature</p><p>50:32 Curiosity and Learning from Others</p><p>52:13 Current Projects and Future Endeavors</p><br><p><br></p><p><strong>Keywords</strong></p><p>understanding, validation, academic success, personal growth, reading, cultural openness</p><br><p><strong>Takeaways</strong></p><ul><li>Reading international literature was an incredibly formative experience.</li><li>In school and academia, I became very fixated on this idea of needing to be right.</li><li>It laid the groundwork for some pretty troubling reading.</li><li>Understanding everything became a personal obsession.</li><li>Academic success can lead to troubling patterns in thinking.</li><li>The pressure to excel can hinder genuine learning.</li><li>Struggles in one subject can overshadow strengths in another.</li><li>Personal growth is often tied to our academic experiences.</li><li>Reading is an adventure in learning what we don't know</li></ul><p><br></p><br><p><br></p><br><p><br></p><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p><strong>Show Notes/Summary</strong></p><br><p>In this episode, host Elena Lappin welcomes novelist and international book blogger Ann Morgan to discuss her thought-provoking new book,&nbsp;<em>Relearning to Read: Adventures in Not Knowing</em>. The conversation delves into the transformative power of reading and the importance of humility and openness when encountering unfamiliar narratives. Morgan shares her personal journey of unlearning traditional reading habits shaped by academic expectations and the liberating experience of engaging with literature from diverse cultures. Through anecdotes from her time volunteering with the Samaritans and her encounters with extraordinary individuals, she illustrates the profound connection between reading and understanding others' stories. This episode invites listeners to embrace the adventure of reading with curiosity and an open mind.</p><p><strong>Keywords</strong></p><p>Shop Talk With Writers, Ann Morgan, Relearning To Read, Adventures In Not Knowing, International Literature, Samaritans, Emotional Support, Reading Experience, Curiosity In Reading, Children's Literature, Graphic Novels, Literary Analysis, Writing Process, Cultural Perspectives, Literary Traditions, Book Blogging, Cross-Cultural Reading, Humility In Reading, Reader-Writer Collaboration, Creative Writing</p><p><strong>Takeaways</strong></p><p>Reading requires humility and openness to different perspectives.</p><p>Volunteering can reshape one's understanding of narratives.</p><p>Children's reading habits reflect a natural acceptance of stories.</p><p>Relearning to read involves embracing childlike wonder.</p><p>Education can impose restrictive reading frameworks.</p><p>Gender dynamics affect academic performance in reading and writing.</p><p>Creative interpretation is essential in understanding literature.</p><p>Digital reading influences reader engagement and collaboration.</p><p>Curiosity fosters deeper connections with diverse cultures.</p><br><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><br><p>00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest</p><p>01:16 Exploring the Concept of Reading</p><p>03:45 The Impact of Volunteering on Reading Perspectives</p><p>06:04 Childhood Experiences and Early Writing</p><p>09:04 The Influence of Children’s Reading Habits</p><p>10:58 Relearning to Read with Childlike Wonder</p><p>12:17 The Role of Education in Shaping Reading</p><p>15:13 Gender Dynamics in Academic Reading and Writing</p><p>19:03 The Art of Creative Interpretation in Reading</p><p>22:23 Openness in Reading and Understanding Different Cultures</p><p>27:03 Reading from Diverse Global Perspectives</p><p>30:04 The Writer's Freedom and Boldness in Storytelling</p><p>31:36 The Collaborative Nature of Reading and Writing</p><p>34:57 The Influence of Digital Reading on Reader Experience</p><p>38:34 The Universality of Literature and Reader Engagement</p><p>44:54 Personal Stories and Connections Through Literature</p><p>50:32 Curiosity and Learning from Others</p><p>52:13 Current Projects and Future Endeavors</p><br><p><br></p><p><strong>Keywords</strong></p><p>understanding, validation, academic success, personal growth, reading, cultural openness</p><br><p><strong>Takeaways</strong></p><ul><li>Reading international literature was an incredibly formative experience.</li><li>In school and academia, I became very fixated on this idea of needing to be right.</li><li>It laid the groundwork for some pretty troubling reading.</li><li>Understanding everything became a personal obsession.</li><li>Academic success can lead to troubling patterns in thinking.</li><li>The pressure to excel can hinder genuine learning.</li><li>Struggles in one subject can overshadow strengths in another.</li><li>Personal growth is often tied to our academic experiences.</li><li>Reading is an adventure in learning what we don't know</li></ul><p><br></p><br><p><br></p><br><p><br></p><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Ep.17: BEN MARKOVITS</title>
			<itunes:title>Ep.17: BEN MARKOVITS</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2025 10:53:57 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>On his Booker-shortlisted novel THE REST OF OUR LIVES</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><br></p><p>Summary</p><br><p>Host Elena Lappin interviews acclaimed novelist Ben Markovits about his Booker-shortlisted novel THE REST OF OUR LIVES. Tom's wife Amy had an affair many years ago, and now that their youngest daughter is leaving home, Tom is supposedly ready to end his marriage. But will he? Markovits talks about the complexities of navigating middle age, focusing on the narrowing options individuals face as they grow older. It explores the idea of self-experimentation and the potential for personal growth, while also addressing the emotional challenges of leaving behind a previous life. The discussion highlights the tension between the desire for change and the reality of established life paths.</p><br><p>Keywords</p><br><p>middle age, life choices, parenthood, self-experimentation, happiness, personal growth, life course, change, identity, marriage, infidelity</p><br><p><br></p><p>Takeaways</p><br><p>One of the problems with middle age is the illusion of choices.</p><p>As you get older, the options narrow significantly.</p><p>People often struggle with the idea of their life course being set.</p><p>Self-experimentation can lead to unexpected happiness.</p><p>You can do almost anything to yourself and still find joy.</p><p>The heart of Tom's predicament lies in his sense of possibility.</p><p>Embracing change is essential for personal growth.</p><p>Betraying the past can be a part of moving forward.</p><p>Middle age brings a unique set of challenges and opportunities.</p><p>Understanding one's capacity for change is crucial.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Sound bites</p><br><p>"The options narrow as you get older."</p><p>"It might not even make you unhappy."</p><p>"Experimentation can lead to happiness."</p><br><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p><br></p><p>Summary</p><br><p>Host Elena Lappin interviews acclaimed novelist Ben Markovits about his Booker-shortlisted novel THE REST OF OUR LIVES. Tom's wife Amy had an affair many years ago, and now that their youngest daughter is leaving home, Tom is supposedly ready to end his marriage. But will he? Markovits talks about the complexities of navigating middle age, focusing on the narrowing options individuals face as they grow older. It explores the idea of self-experimentation and the potential for personal growth, while also addressing the emotional challenges of leaving behind a previous life. The discussion highlights the tension between the desire for change and the reality of established life paths.</p><br><p>Keywords</p><br><p>middle age, life choices, parenthood, self-experimentation, happiness, personal growth, life course, change, identity, marriage, infidelity</p><br><p><br></p><p>Takeaways</p><br><p>One of the problems with middle age is the illusion of choices.</p><p>As you get older, the options narrow significantly.</p><p>People often struggle with the idea of their life course being set.</p><p>Self-experimentation can lead to unexpected happiness.</p><p>You can do almost anything to yourself and still find joy.</p><p>The heart of Tom's predicament lies in his sense of possibility.</p><p>Embracing change is essential for personal growth.</p><p>Betraying the past can be a part of moving forward.</p><p>Middle age brings a unique set of challenges and opportunities.</p><p>Understanding one's capacity for change is crucial.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Sound bites</p><br><p>"The options narrow as you get older."</p><p>"It might not even make you unhappy."</p><p>"Experimentation can lead to happiness."</p><br><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Ep. 16: CHARLOTTE MENDELSON</title>
			<itunes:title>Ep. 16: CHARLOTTE MENDELSON</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2025 16:31:50 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Charlotte Mendelson in conversation with host  Elena Lappin about her latest novel WIFE </itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Keywords</p><br><p>Charlotte Mendelson, Wife, lesbian marriage, relationships, narcissism, family dynamics, literature, emotional complexity, storytelling, character development, contemporary fiction</p><br><p>Episode Summary</p><br><p>In this episode of Shop Talk with Writers, bestselling novelist Charlotte Mendelson discusses her latest novel, WIFE,  which intricately explores the dynamics of a lesbian marriage between Zoe and Penny. Through a reading from the book, Mendelson delves into the complexities of their relationship, the themes of desire, control, and the impact of narcissism. The conversation also touches on the inspiration behind the novel, the portrayal of lesbian relationships in literature, and the challenges of writing about intimate subjects. Mendelson's sharp wit and insightful observations provide a rich exploration of personal and family relationships, making this episode a compelling listen for fans of contemporary literature.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Takeaways</p><br><p>Charlotte Mendelson's 'Wife' explores the intricacies of a lesbian marriage.</p><p>The novel is structured around two timelines: a 20-year relationship and its final day.</p><p>Zoe, the protagonist, embodies a nurturing spirit contrasted with Penny's assertiveness.</p><p>Mendelson aims to depict the complexities of desire and control in relationships.</p><p>The book addresses the theme of narcissism and its impact on personal relationships.</p><p>Mendelson's writing reflects her experiences and observations of family dynamics.</p><p>The portrayal of lesbian relationships in literature is evolving, yet still faces stereotypes.</p><p>Mendelson emphasizes the importance of authenticity in storytelling.</p><p>The challenges of writing about intimate subjects are significant for authors.</p><p>Gardening serves as a metaphor for personal growth and emotional complexity in Mendelson's work.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Titles</p><br><p>Unpacking 'Wife': A Deep Dive into Relationships</p><p>Charlotte Mendelson on Love, Loss, and Literature</p><br><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><br><p>00:00 Exploring 'Wife': A Reading from the Novel</p><p>05:48 Character Dynamics: Zoe and Penny's Relationship</p><p>20:12 The Complexity of Desire and Control</p><p>29:22 Narcissism in Relationships: A Deeper Look</p><p>43:54 The Inspiration Behind 'Wife' and Its Themes</p><br><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Keywords</p><br><p>Charlotte Mendelson, Wife, lesbian marriage, relationships, narcissism, family dynamics, literature, emotional complexity, storytelling, character development, contemporary fiction</p><br><p>Episode Summary</p><br><p>In this episode of Shop Talk with Writers, bestselling novelist Charlotte Mendelson discusses her latest novel, WIFE,  which intricately explores the dynamics of a lesbian marriage between Zoe and Penny. Through a reading from the book, Mendelson delves into the complexities of their relationship, the themes of desire, control, and the impact of narcissism. The conversation also touches on the inspiration behind the novel, the portrayal of lesbian relationships in literature, and the challenges of writing about intimate subjects. Mendelson's sharp wit and insightful observations provide a rich exploration of personal and family relationships, making this episode a compelling listen for fans of contemporary literature.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Takeaways</p><br><p>Charlotte Mendelson's 'Wife' explores the intricacies of a lesbian marriage.</p><p>The novel is structured around two timelines: a 20-year relationship and its final day.</p><p>Zoe, the protagonist, embodies a nurturing spirit contrasted with Penny's assertiveness.</p><p>Mendelson aims to depict the complexities of desire and control in relationships.</p><p>The book addresses the theme of narcissism and its impact on personal relationships.</p><p>Mendelson's writing reflects her experiences and observations of family dynamics.</p><p>The portrayal of lesbian relationships in literature is evolving, yet still faces stereotypes.</p><p>Mendelson emphasizes the importance of authenticity in storytelling.</p><p>The challenges of writing about intimate subjects are significant for authors.</p><p>Gardening serves as a metaphor for personal growth and emotional complexity in Mendelson's work.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Titles</p><br><p>Unpacking 'Wife': A Deep Dive into Relationships</p><p>Charlotte Mendelson on Love, Loss, and Literature</p><br><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><br><p>00:00 Exploring 'Wife': A Reading from the Novel</p><p>05:48 Character Dynamics: Zoe and Penny's Relationship</p><p>20:12 The Complexity of Desire and Control</p><p>29:22 Narcissism in Relationships: A Deeper Look</p><p>43:54 The Inspiration Behind 'Wife' and Its Themes</p><br><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Ep. 15: ARMAND D'ANGOUR]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Ep. 15: ARMAND D'ANGOUR]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 08:07:42 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>HOW TO TALK ABOUT LOVE: Plato, Socrates, and modern lovers</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><br></p><p>Summary</p><br><p>In this episode of Shop Talk with Writers, host Elena Lapin engages with Armand Dungour, a professor of classics, to explore the themes of love as presented in Plato's Symposium. D'Angour discusses the historical context of the text, the various perspectives on love presented by its speakers, and the philosophical implications of Socrates' teachings. The conversation delves into the relevance of these ancient ideas in modern times, emphasizing the importance of understanding love's complexities and the influence of historical figures like Socrates and Diotima. D'Angour also shares insights into his own work and passion for making classical texts accessible to contemporary audiences.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Takeaways</p><br><p>The Symposium presents multiple viewpoints on love through its characters.</p><p>Socrates' teachings on love are influenced by his relationship with Diotima.</p><p>Love is portrayed as a harmonizing force in both personal and societal contexts.</p><p>The dialogue emphasizes the importance of true love over mere physical attraction.</p><p>Understanding love requires recognizing its complexities and nuances.</p><p>Plato's work remains relevant in modern discussions about love and relationships.</p><p>The concept of platonic love is rooted in Socratic philosophy.</p><p>Armand D'Angour aims to make classical texts accessible to modern readers.</p><p>The historical context of the Symposium enriches its themes of love.</p><p>Music and literature are intertwined in the exploration of ancient ideas.&nbsp;</p><br><p>Keywords</p><br><p>Plato, Symposium, love, ancient texts, Socrates, Diotima, modern lovers, philosophy, classics, Armand D'Angour</p><br><p><br></p><p>Titles</p><br><p>Unraveling Love: Insights from Plato's Symposium</p><p>Socrates and Diotima: The Philosophical Foundations of Love</p><br><p><br></p><p>Sound bites</p><br><p>"An ancient guide for modern lovers."</p><p>"Love inspires creation."</p><p>"What matters is who you love."</p><br><p><br></p><br><p>Chapters</p><br><p>00:00 Exploring the Concept of Love in Ancient Texts</p><p>19:55 The Influence of Socrates and Diotima</p><p>39:05 Diverse Perspectives on Love: The Symposium's Speakers</p><p>47:45 Socrates and the Nature of True Love</p><p>01:04:43 Bridging Ancient and Modern Understandings of Love</p><br><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p><br></p><p>Summary</p><br><p>In this episode of Shop Talk with Writers, host Elena Lapin engages with Armand Dungour, a professor of classics, to explore the themes of love as presented in Plato's Symposium. D'Angour discusses the historical context of the text, the various perspectives on love presented by its speakers, and the philosophical implications of Socrates' teachings. The conversation delves into the relevance of these ancient ideas in modern times, emphasizing the importance of understanding love's complexities and the influence of historical figures like Socrates and Diotima. D'Angour also shares insights into his own work and passion for making classical texts accessible to contemporary audiences.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Takeaways</p><br><p>The Symposium presents multiple viewpoints on love through its characters.</p><p>Socrates' teachings on love are influenced by his relationship with Diotima.</p><p>Love is portrayed as a harmonizing force in both personal and societal contexts.</p><p>The dialogue emphasizes the importance of true love over mere physical attraction.</p><p>Understanding love requires recognizing its complexities and nuances.</p><p>Plato's work remains relevant in modern discussions about love and relationships.</p><p>The concept of platonic love is rooted in Socratic philosophy.</p><p>Armand D'Angour aims to make classical texts accessible to modern readers.</p><p>The historical context of the Symposium enriches its themes of love.</p><p>Music and literature are intertwined in the exploration of ancient ideas.&nbsp;</p><br><p>Keywords</p><br><p>Plato, Symposium, love, ancient texts, Socrates, Diotima, modern lovers, philosophy, classics, Armand D'Angour</p><br><p><br></p><p>Titles</p><br><p>Unraveling Love: Insights from Plato's Symposium</p><p>Socrates and Diotima: The Philosophical Foundations of Love</p><br><p><br></p><p>Sound bites</p><br><p>"An ancient guide for modern lovers."</p><p>"Love inspires creation."</p><p>"What matters is who you love."</p><br><p><br></p><br><p>Chapters</p><br><p>00:00 Exploring the Concept of Love in Ancient Texts</p><p>19:55 The Influence of Socrates and Diotima</p><p>39:05 Diverse Perspectives on Love: The Symposium's Speakers</p><p>47:45 Socrates and the Nature of True Love</p><p>01:04:43 Bridging Ancient and Modern Understandings of Love</p><br><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Ep. 14: DANIEL KEHLMANN</title>
			<itunes:title>Ep. 14: DANIEL KEHLMANN</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2025 18:58:22 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>On his novel THE DIRECTOR</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Summary</p><br><p>In this episode of Shop Talk with Writers, bestselling German-Austrian author Daniel Kehlmann speaks to host Elena Lappin about his latest novel, The Director, which explores the life and work of Austrian director G.W. Pabst during the Nazi regime. Kehlmann delves into the complexities of being a director, the moral implications of artistic choices under totalitarianism, and the challenges of using real historical figures in fiction. He reflects on his cultural identity, the influence of iconic actresses like Louise Brooks, and the importance of the author's voice in storytelling. The conversation also touches on the tragic story of Jakob, a character in his novel, and the dark side of human nature in literature. </p><p>THE DIRECTOR is published by riverrun, an imprint of Quercus (Hachette). </p><p>Daniel Kehlmann is also the author of MEASURING THE WORLD, TYLL, and other novels.</p><br><p><br></p><br><p>Keywords</p><br><p>Daniel Kehlmann, The Director, G.W. Pabst, historical fiction, totalitarianism, artistic compromise, cultural identity, novel writing, film direction, Louise Brooks,PG Woodehouse, Nazi regime, Hollywood, Austria. Germany</p><br><p><br></p><p>Takeaways</p><br><p>Daniel Kehlmann explores the complexities of being a director in film.</p><p>The role of a director is to create a collaborative illusion of reality.</p><p>Kehlmann's cultural background influences his writing and themes.</p><p>Novelists often draw from real historical figures to create compelling narratives.</p><p>The moral implications of artistic choices during totalitarian regimes are profound.</p><p>Everyday life under totalitarianism can lead to complicity in small ways.</p><p>Researching historical figures requires a balance of fact and creative interpretation.</p><p>Louise Brooks serves as a significant influence in Kelman's narrative.</p><p>The challenge of using real characters in fiction raises ethical questions.</p><p>Kelman emphasizes the importance of the author's voice in storytelling.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Sound bites</p><br><p>"I create a version  of reality that I think is probable."</p><p>"I hope I would have done the right thing."</p><p>"I'm everywhere in my novel. I'm in the atmosphere."</p><br><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><br><p>00:00 Introduction to Daniel Kelman and His Work</p><p>01:15 The Role of a Director in Film</p><p>03:52 Personal Geography and Cultural Identity</p><p>07:29 The Novelist's Approach to Themes</p><p>10:14 Resurrecting Historical Figures in Fiction</p><p>12:06 Exploring G.W. Pabst's Life and Choices</p><p>15:05 The Complicity of Everyday Life Under Totalitarianism</p><p>18:58 The Impact of Totalitarian Regimes on Artists</p><p>21:57 Researching Historical Characters</p><p>24:59 The Influence of Louise Brooks</p><p>29:01 The Dilemma of Using Real Characters</p><p>30:06 The Challenge of Fictionalizing History</p><p>32:02 Imagining Lost Films and Artistic Freedom</p><p>35:00 The Moral Complexity of Compromise</p><p>38:42 The Nature of Compromise in Art</p><p>41:59 The Role of Minor Characters</p><p>43:43 Finding the Author's Voice in Fiction</p><p>45:37 The Tragic Story of Jakob</p><p>50:21 The Artistic Process of a Director</p><p>54:47 The Author's Presence in the Narrative</p><p>59:37 Inserting Humor and Wit into Serious Themes</p><p>01:03:49 The Dark Side of Human Nature</p><p>01:07:19 The Author's Writing Process and Future Projects</p><br><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Summary</p><br><p>In this episode of Shop Talk with Writers, bestselling German-Austrian author Daniel Kehlmann speaks to host Elena Lappin about his latest novel, The Director, which explores the life and work of Austrian director G.W. Pabst during the Nazi regime. Kehlmann delves into the complexities of being a director, the moral implications of artistic choices under totalitarianism, and the challenges of using real historical figures in fiction. He reflects on his cultural identity, the influence of iconic actresses like Louise Brooks, and the importance of the author's voice in storytelling. The conversation also touches on the tragic story of Jakob, a character in his novel, and the dark side of human nature in literature. </p><p>THE DIRECTOR is published by riverrun, an imprint of Quercus (Hachette). </p><p>Daniel Kehlmann is also the author of MEASURING THE WORLD, TYLL, and other novels.</p><br><p><br></p><br><p>Keywords</p><br><p>Daniel Kehlmann, The Director, G.W. Pabst, historical fiction, totalitarianism, artistic compromise, cultural identity, novel writing, film direction, Louise Brooks,PG Woodehouse, Nazi regime, Hollywood, Austria. Germany</p><br><p><br></p><p>Takeaways</p><br><p>Daniel Kehlmann explores the complexities of being a director in film.</p><p>The role of a director is to create a collaborative illusion of reality.</p><p>Kehlmann's cultural background influences his writing and themes.</p><p>Novelists often draw from real historical figures to create compelling narratives.</p><p>The moral implications of artistic choices during totalitarian regimes are profound.</p><p>Everyday life under totalitarianism can lead to complicity in small ways.</p><p>Researching historical figures requires a balance of fact and creative interpretation.</p><p>Louise Brooks serves as a significant influence in Kelman's narrative.</p><p>The challenge of using real characters in fiction raises ethical questions.</p><p>Kelman emphasizes the importance of the author's voice in storytelling.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Sound bites</p><br><p>"I create a version  of reality that I think is probable."</p><p>"I hope I would have done the right thing."</p><p>"I'm everywhere in my novel. I'm in the atmosphere."</p><br><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><br><p>00:00 Introduction to Daniel Kelman and His Work</p><p>01:15 The Role of a Director in Film</p><p>03:52 Personal Geography and Cultural Identity</p><p>07:29 The Novelist's Approach to Themes</p><p>10:14 Resurrecting Historical Figures in Fiction</p><p>12:06 Exploring G.W. Pabst's Life and Choices</p><p>15:05 The Complicity of Everyday Life Under Totalitarianism</p><p>18:58 The Impact of Totalitarian Regimes on Artists</p><p>21:57 Researching Historical Characters</p><p>24:59 The Influence of Louise Brooks</p><p>29:01 The Dilemma of Using Real Characters</p><p>30:06 The Challenge of Fictionalizing History</p><p>32:02 Imagining Lost Films and Artistic Freedom</p><p>35:00 The Moral Complexity of Compromise</p><p>38:42 The Nature of Compromise in Art</p><p>41:59 The Role of Minor Characters</p><p>43:43 Finding the Author's Voice in Fiction</p><p>45:37 The Tragic Story of Jakob</p><p>50:21 The Artistic Process of a Director</p><p>54:47 The Author's Presence in the Narrative</p><p>59:37 Inserting Humor and Wit into Serious Themes</p><p>01:03:49 The Dark Side of Human Nature</p><p>01:07:19 The Author's Writing Process and Future Projects</p><br><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Ep.13: COLM TÓIBÍN</title>
			<itunes:title>Ep.13: COLM TÓIBÍN</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2025 18:10:46 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>On his new novel LONG ISLAND</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Notes:</p><p><strong>Summary</strong></p><p>In this episode of Shop Talk with Writers, host Elena Lappin engages with acclaimed Irish novelist Colm Tóibín, discussing his latest work, Long Island, a sequel to Brooklyn. The conversation explores Tóibín's writing process, the significance of silence in dialogue, the evolution of recurring characters, and the interplay between personal experiences and historical contexts in his narratives. Tóibín reflects on the role of politics in personal stories and the complexities of human relationships, while also addressing the future of Irish literature and his current projects.</p><br><p><strong>keywords</strong></p><p>Colm Tóibín, Long Island, Brooklyn, Irish literature, writing process, silence in literature, character development, historical context, personal narratives, solitude in writing</p><br><p><strong>takeaways</strong></p><ul><li>Colm Tóibín's writing often reflects the complexities of human relationships.</li><li>Silence plays a crucial role in Tóibín's narratives, allowing readers to fill in the gaps.</li><li>The influence of film can reshape a writer's perspective on their characters.</li><li>Tóibín emphasizes the importance of personal experience in crafting fiction.</li><li>Recurring characters in Tóibín's work evolve over time, reflecting their journeys.</li><li>Historical context enriches the narratives, providing depth to personal stories.</li><li>Tóibín believes that the novel should focus on the human heart rather than political backdrops.</li><li>The writing process involves both inspiration and meticulous editing.</li><li>Tóibín's characters often experience solitude, which shapes their identities.</li><li>The future of Irish literature is diverse, with each writer carving their own path.</li></ul><p><strong>titles</strong></p><ul><li>Exploring the depths of Long Island and other titles by Colm Tóibín</li><li>The Art of Silence in Literature</li></ul><p><strong>Sound Bites</strong></p><ul><li>"He left silence."</li><li>"You need to work blindly sometimes."</li><li>'"John Banville is the genius among us"</li></ul><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00</p><p>Introduction to Colm Tóibín and Long Island</p><p>02:34</p><p>The Impact of Brooklyn the film on writing Long Island</p><p>05:55</p><p>Silence and Dialogue in Writing</p><p>08:52</p><p>The Craft of Writing: Inspiration and Process</p><p>11:37</p><p>Recurring Characters and Their Evolution</p><p>14:47</p><p>Historical Context in Fiction</p><p>17:25</p><p>The Role of Politics in Personal Narratives</p><p>20:46</p><p>Writing About Real People and Events</p><p>23:24</p><p>The Complexity of Human Relationships</p><p>26:26</p><p>Exploring Solitude and Distance in Characters</p><p>29:37</p><p>The Influence of Personal Experience on Writing</p><p>32:17</p><p>The Future of Irish Literature</p><p>35:10</p><p>Current Projects and Future Aspirations</p><br><p><br></p><br><p><br></p><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Notes:</p><p><strong>Summary</strong></p><p>In this episode of Shop Talk with Writers, host Elena Lappin engages with acclaimed Irish novelist Colm Tóibín, discussing his latest work, Long Island, a sequel to Brooklyn. The conversation explores Tóibín's writing process, the significance of silence in dialogue, the evolution of recurring characters, and the interplay between personal experiences and historical contexts in his narratives. Tóibín reflects on the role of politics in personal stories and the complexities of human relationships, while also addressing the future of Irish literature and his current projects.</p><br><p><strong>keywords</strong></p><p>Colm Tóibín, Long Island, Brooklyn, Irish literature, writing process, silence in literature, character development, historical context, personal narratives, solitude in writing</p><br><p><strong>takeaways</strong></p><ul><li>Colm Tóibín's writing often reflects the complexities of human relationships.</li><li>Silence plays a crucial role in Tóibín's narratives, allowing readers to fill in the gaps.</li><li>The influence of film can reshape a writer's perspective on their characters.</li><li>Tóibín emphasizes the importance of personal experience in crafting fiction.</li><li>Recurring characters in Tóibín's work evolve over time, reflecting their journeys.</li><li>Historical context enriches the narratives, providing depth to personal stories.</li><li>Tóibín believes that the novel should focus on the human heart rather than political backdrops.</li><li>The writing process involves both inspiration and meticulous editing.</li><li>Tóibín's characters often experience solitude, which shapes their identities.</li><li>The future of Irish literature is diverse, with each writer carving their own path.</li></ul><p><strong>titles</strong></p><ul><li>Exploring the depths of Long Island and other titles by Colm Tóibín</li><li>The Art of Silence in Literature</li></ul><p><strong>Sound Bites</strong></p><ul><li>"He left silence."</li><li>"You need to work blindly sometimes."</li><li>'"John Banville is the genius among us"</li></ul><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00</p><p>Introduction to Colm Tóibín and Long Island</p><p>02:34</p><p>The Impact of Brooklyn the film on writing Long Island</p><p>05:55</p><p>Silence and Dialogue in Writing</p><p>08:52</p><p>The Craft of Writing: Inspiration and Process</p><p>11:37</p><p>Recurring Characters and Their Evolution</p><p>14:47</p><p>Historical Context in Fiction</p><p>17:25</p><p>The Role of Politics in Personal Narratives</p><p>20:46</p><p>Writing About Real People and Events</p><p>23:24</p><p>The Complexity of Human Relationships</p><p>26:26</p><p>Exploring Solitude and Distance in Characters</p><p>29:37</p><p>The Influence of Personal Experience on Writing</p><p>32:17</p><p>The Future of Irish Literature</p><p>35:10</p><p>Current Projects and Future Aspirations</p><br><p><br></p><br><p><br></p><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Ep. 12: SARAH MOSS</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2025 19:14:34 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>On her new novel RIPENESS</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Keywords</strong></p><p>Sarah Moss, Ripeness, identity, memory, immigration, belonging, family, writing, creativity, genetics, love, women’s lives, parents, ballet</p><p><strong>Summary</strong></p><p>In this episode of Shop Talk with Writers, host Elena Lapin converses with bestselling author Sarah Moss about her new novel, Ripeness. The discussion delves into themes of identity, memory, and the immigrant experience, as well as the dual perspectives of the protagonist, Edith, who navigates her life as both a teenager in 1960s Italy and an elderly woman in contemporary Ireland. Moss reflects on the complexities of family relationships, the nature of writing, and the impact of history on personal identity.</p><p><strong>Takeaways</strong></p><ul><li>Ripeness explores the theme of what it means to be a foreigner.</li><li>The novel is structured around dual perspectives of the protagonist, Edith.</li><li>Moss emphasizes the importance of memory in writing.</li><li>Family dynamics play a crucial role in shaping identity.</li><li>The book addresses the complexities of immigration and belonging.</li><li>Moss reflects on the historical context of her characters' lives.</li><li>The narrative intertwines personal stories with broader social issues.</li><li>Moss discusses the challenges of writing about trauma and recovery.</li><li>The concept of 'ripeness' relates to maturity and timing in life.</li><li>Moss believes in the importance of caring about the world in writing.</li><li><br></li></ul><p>Novelist Sarah Moss joins host Elena Lappin to discuss her extraordinary new novel RIPENESS. It is a stunning work of fiction from the author of SUMMERWATER, GHOST WALL, and most recently, the memoir MY GOOD BRIGHT WOLF.</p><p>Read more on Elena Lappin’s Substack elenalappin.substack.com</p><p><strong><em>'I am always writing fiction in the cracks of history.</em></strong>' said Moss.</p><p>Other memorable quotes from this conversation:</p><p>'<strong><em>This novel is an elegy for an era we just lost</em></strong>.'</p><p><strong><em>'Moving to Ireland made me think about identity.</em></strong>'</p><br><p>Sarah Moss lives in Dublin.</p><p>RIPENESS is published by Picador.</p><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p><strong>Keywords</strong></p><p>Sarah Moss, Ripeness, identity, memory, immigration, belonging, family, writing, creativity, genetics, love, women’s lives, parents, ballet</p><p><strong>Summary</strong></p><p>In this episode of Shop Talk with Writers, host Elena Lapin converses with bestselling author Sarah Moss about her new novel, Ripeness. The discussion delves into themes of identity, memory, and the immigrant experience, as well as the dual perspectives of the protagonist, Edith, who navigates her life as both a teenager in 1960s Italy and an elderly woman in contemporary Ireland. Moss reflects on the complexities of family relationships, the nature of writing, and the impact of history on personal identity.</p><p><strong>Takeaways</strong></p><ul><li>Ripeness explores the theme of what it means to be a foreigner.</li><li>The novel is structured around dual perspectives of the protagonist, Edith.</li><li>Moss emphasizes the importance of memory in writing.</li><li>Family dynamics play a crucial role in shaping identity.</li><li>The book addresses the complexities of immigration and belonging.</li><li>Moss reflects on the historical context of her characters' lives.</li><li>The narrative intertwines personal stories with broader social issues.</li><li>Moss discusses the challenges of writing about trauma and recovery.</li><li>The concept of 'ripeness' relates to maturity and timing in life.</li><li>Moss believes in the importance of caring about the world in writing.</li><li><br></li></ul><p>Novelist Sarah Moss joins host Elena Lappin to discuss her extraordinary new novel RIPENESS. It is a stunning work of fiction from the author of SUMMERWATER, GHOST WALL, and most recently, the memoir MY GOOD BRIGHT WOLF.</p><p>Read more on Elena Lappin’s Substack elenalappin.substack.com</p><p><strong><em>'I am always writing fiction in the cracks of history.</em></strong>' said Moss.</p><p>Other memorable quotes from this conversation:</p><p>'<strong><em>This novel is an elegy for an era we just lost</em></strong>.'</p><p><strong><em>'Moving to Ireland made me think about identity.</em></strong>'</p><br><p>Sarah Moss lives in Dublin.</p><p>RIPENESS is published by Picador.</p><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Ep. 11:  ANDRÉ ACIMAN</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2025 10:58:28 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>On his new novella ROOM ON THE SEA (published by Faber)</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><br></p><p>In the latest episode of Shop Talk with Writers, host Elena Lapin engages in an illuminating conversation with the acclaimed novelist and memoirist André Aciman. Known for his deeply moving narratives and exploration of themes such as belonging, memory, and love, Aciman shares insights into his latest novella, Room on the Sea. (published by Faber).&nbsp;</p><br><p>The episode opens with Aciman discussing his journey as a writer, from his early experiences in Egypt to his current life in New York City. He reflects on the complexities of identity and the impact of his multicultural background on his writing. Aciman's works often delve into the nuances of human relationships, and Room on the Sea is no exception. He describes the novella as a story that unfolds between two strangers who meet as prospective jurors, exploring the unexpected possibilities that arise from their connection.</p><br><p>Listeners will be captivated by Aciman's eloquent storytelling and his ability to weave together personal anecdotes with literary analysis. He discusses the significance of memory in his work, drawing parallels to his own life experiences as an exile. The conversation also touches on the role of language and how his mother’s deafness shaped his relationship with words. </p><br><p>Read more  on this conversation (including a full transcript) on Elena Lappin's Substack elenalappin.substack.com.</p><br><p>Thank you for listening.</p><br><p><br></p><br><p><br></p><br><p><br></p><br><p><br></p><br><p><br></p><br><p>As the episode progresses, Aciman shares his thoughts on the romantic undertones of Room on the Sea, likening the dynamics between his characters to the classic love story of Wuthering Heights. The dialogue between the protagonists reveals their longing for connection amidst the constraints of their respective marriages, showcasing Aciman's talent for capturing the complexities of human emotion.</p><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p><br></p><p>In the latest episode of Shop Talk with Writers, host Elena Lapin engages in an illuminating conversation with the acclaimed novelist and memoirist André Aciman. Known for his deeply moving narratives and exploration of themes such as belonging, memory, and love, Aciman shares insights into his latest novella, Room on the Sea. (published by Faber).&nbsp;</p><br><p>The episode opens with Aciman discussing his journey as a writer, from his early experiences in Egypt to his current life in New York City. He reflects on the complexities of identity and the impact of his multicultural background on his writing. Aciman's works often delve into the nuances of human relationships, and Room on the Sea is no exception. He describes the novella as a story that unfolds between two strangers who meet as prospective jurors, exploring the unexpected possibilities that arise from their connection.</p><br><p>Listeners will be captivated by Aciman's eloquent storytelling and his ability to weave together personal anecdotes with literary analysis. He discusses the significance of memory in his work, drawing parallels to his own life experiences as an exile. The conversation also touches on the role of language and how his mother’s deafness shaped his relationship with words. </p><br><p>Read more  on this conversation (including a full transcript) on Elena Lappin's Substack elenalappin.substack.com.</p><br><p>Thank you for listening.</p><br><p><br></p><br><p><br></p><br><p><br></p><br><p><br></p><br><p><br></p><br><p>As the episode progresses, Aciman shares his thoughts on the romantic undertones of Room on the Sea, likening the dynamics between his characters to the classic love story of Wuthering Heights. The dialogue between the protagonists reveals their longing for connection amidst the constraints of their respective marriages, showcasing Aciman's talent for capturing the complexities of human emotion.</p><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Ep. 10: CAROLINE O'DONOGHUE]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Ep. 10: CAROLINE O'DONOGHUE]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2025 00:34:08 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>On her new novel SKIPSHOCK (Walker Books)</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Caroline O’Donoghue is one of the most talented and original writers on the British literary scene. In 2018, I interviewed her for a different podcast, about her excellent debut novel <a target="_blank" href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/2Y0N1eL7c6EBS2nQYuzUTt?si=SuvQGEXhSTmse6W7l-WkkQ">Promising Young Women</a>. I loved that novel’s deep seriousness, along with its provocative humour and cinematic pacing. She was a debut author unafraid to be both open and fragile.</p><p>Since then, she has written two  bestselling adult novels (SCENES OF<em> A GRAPHIC NATURE</em> and <em>THE RACHEL INCIDENT), </em>and the very popular YA fantasy series <em>ALL OUR HIDDEN GIFTS</em>.  <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=caroline+o%27donoghue+skipshock&#38;i=stripbooks&#38;crid=2CK6FV1X8A482&#38;sprefix=caroline+o%27donoghue+skipshock%2Cstripbooks%2C56&#38;ref=nb_sb_noss">SKIPSHOCK</a> is the first book in a new series which may also be categorised as YA and fantasy, but for me, it is just a wonderful, genre-bending read about two young people in a dystopian world controlled by the all-powerful currency of time. It feels as surreal and familiar as The Matrix.</p><p>Caroline O’Donoghue is also a screenwriter and an award-winning podcaster (<a target="_blank" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/sentimental-garbage/id1444729607">Sentimental Garbage</a>). Meeting her again after seven years, I was curious to hear how she does all this with such a strong sense of purpose. She is fun, witty and charming, but what is most interesting is her sharp analysis of where her very original ideas come from, and how she refuses to be categorised - and misunderstood.</p><p>Born in Cork, Ireland, Caroline O’Donoghue now lives in London. She has a unique take on the new wave of Irish literary talent, which she both admires and does not feel connected to. </p><p><em>Of course I am an Irish writer, but I am also a London writer.</em></p><p>Not unlike some of her fictional heroines, Caroline O’Donoghue defines her own path, with a great sense of freedom and a very adventurous imagination.</p><p>I bet the next seven years. will be full of even more surprises.</p><p></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.walker.co.uk/9781529507966/skipshock/">SHIPSHOCK is published by Walker Books</a>.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to PEN & PENCIL at <a href="https://elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe</a><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Caroline O’Donoghue is one of the most talented and original writers on the British literary scene. In 2018, I interviewed her for a different podcast, about her excellent debut novel <a target="_blank" href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/2Y0N1eL7c6EBS2nQYuzUTt?si=SuvQGEXhSTmse6W7l-WkkQ">Promising Young Women</a>. I loved that novel’s deep seriousness, along with its provocative humour and cinematic pacing. She was a debut author unafraid to be both open and fragile.</p><p>Since then, she has written two  bestselling adult novels (SCENES OF<em> A GRAPHIC NATURE</em> and <em>THE RACHEL INCIDENT), </em>and the very popular YA fantasy series <em>ALL OUR HIDDEN GIFTS</em>.  <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=caroline+o%27donoghue+skipshock&#38;i=stripbooks&#38;crid=2CK6FV1X8A482&#38;sprefix=caroline+o%27donoghue+skipshock%2Cstripbooks%2C56&#38;ref=nb_sb_noss">SKIPSHOCK</a> is the first book in a new series which may also be categorised as YA and fantasy, but for me, it is just a wonderful, genre-bending read about two young people in a dystopian world controlled by the all-powerful currency of time. It feels as surreal and familiar as The Matrix.</p><p>Caroline O’Donoghue is also a screenwriter and an award-winning podcaster (<a target="_blank" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/sentimental-garbage/id1444729607">Sentimental Garbage</a>). Meeting her again after seven years, I was curious to hear how she does all this with such a strong sense of purpose. She is fun, witty and charming, but what is most interesting is her sharp analysis of where her very original ideas come from, and how she refuses to be categorised - and misunderstood.</p><p>Born in Cork, Ireland, Caroline O’Donoghue now lives in London. She has a unique take on the new wave of Irish literary talent, which she both admires and does not feel connected to. </p><p><em>Of course I am an Irish writer, but I am also a London writer.</em></p><p>Not unlike some of her fictional heroines, Caroline O’Donoghue defines her own path, with a great sense of freedom and a very adventurous imagination.</p><p>I bet the next seven years. will be full of even more surprises.</p><p></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.walker.co.uk/9781529507966/skipshock/">SHIPSHOCK is published by Walker Books</a>.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to PEN & PENCIL at <a href="https://elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe</a><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Ep. 9: MEGAN HUNTER</title>
			<itunes:title>Ep. 9: MEGAN HUNTER</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2025 12:09:19 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>We recorded this podcast with Megan Hunter at Pritchard & Ure, an unusual  bookshop/cafe/gallery in Camden, above a garden centre. It’s a place that feels both buzzy and peaceful, and not unlike this author, full of surprises. Before we sat down to talk, Megan enjoyed the books on display, floating among them like a radiant book fairy. She pointed to many of the titles as volumes she loved or knew or had at home (or all of the above). I showed her a few carefully wrapped antiquarian volumes (several  first editions of Virginia Woolf’s novels, for example), which happen to be closely linked to the period and style of Megan Hunter’s new novel, <em>Days of Light</em>. She writes in a blue-painted shed in her garden in Cambridgeshire, she told me, and I could immediately see her there, writing on a sofa, no wifi, in a world of her own. A world she both imagines and inhabits with deep knowledge and feeling.</p><p>Her debut novel <em>The End We Start From </em>was almost a prose poem about new motherhood in dangerous times, and everything she writes, she says, ‘starts with the sentence’. This novel, too, is both fragile and robust, strong ideas distilled into delicate prose: “She marvels at the way a single day can unravel everything, like ribbon pulled from a present.” The narrative of <em>Days of Light </em>gently flows around six important days in the life of its protagonist, Ivy, a dreamy young girl when we meet her in 1938, full of poetic awe and love for her brother. She never loses that dreaminess as the world begins and continues to crumble around her, over many decades. <em>Days of Light </em>not only tells the very moving story of Ivy, but also of the many possibilities she plays with in her mind, because, well, they are all <em>there</em>. </p><p><strong>At 28, I thought - is my life over, as a creative person? This novel is very much about new possibilities.</strong></p><p>Megan Hunter speaks seriously but with an infectious smile and laugh as she reflects on being a mother (she has two children), religion (she studied to become an Anglican priest and this novel is luminous with her own take on faith), marriage (she married young), sexuality (her own has changed), poetry, literature, history, art, nature…. Each of her three novels has a different ring to it. I tell her that although <em>Days of Light</em> is clearly inspired by and partly set in the literary and artistic tableaux of the  Bloomsbury Circle, I feel it has her very authentic own voice - on life <em>and</em> art.</p><p>There is a very intriguing bit of our conversation about how Megan Hunter adapts her own books into screenplays. She sees it as an opportunity to ‘make more changes to the original narrative’.  Is a novel ever really finished? Or is there always more to explore, more <em>possibilities…?</em></p><p>This novelist invites her readers to enjoy the unexpected, and to understand loss as part of one’s freedom to try yet another journey.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.panmacmillan.com/authors/megan-hunter/days-of-light/9781529010183">DAYS OF LIGHT BY MEGAN HUNTER</a></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_We_Start_From">THE END WE START FROM (film)</a></p><p>Publisher: Picador (Pan Macmilllan)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to PEN & PENCIL at <a href="https://elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe</a><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>We recorded this podcast with Megan Hunter at Pritchard & Ure, an unusual  bookshop/cafe/gallery in Camden, above a garden centre. It’s a place that feels both buzzy and peaceful, and not unlike this author, full of surprises. Before we sat down to talk, Megan enjoyed the books on display, floating among them like a radiant book fairy. She pointed to many of the titles as volumes she loved or knew or had at home (or all of the above). I showed her a few carefully wrapped antiquarian volumes (several  first editions of Virginia Woolf’s novels, for example), which happen to be closely linked to the period and style of Megan Hunter’s new novel, <em>Days of Light</em>. She writes in a blue-painted shed in her garden in Cambridgeshire, she told me, and I could immediately see her there, writing on a sofa, no wifi, in a world of her own. A world she both imagines and inhabits with deep knowledge and feeling.</p><p>Her debut novel <em>The End We Start From </em>was almost a prose poem about new motherhood in dangerous times, and everything she writes, she says, ‘starts with the sentence’. This novel, too, is both fragile and robust, strong ideas distilled into delicate prose: “She marvels at the way a single day can unravel everything, like ribbon pulled from a present.” The narrative of <em>Days of Light </em>gently flows around six important days in the life of its protagonist, Ivy, a dreamy young girl when we meet her in 1938, full of poetic awe and love for her brother. She never loses that dreaminess as the world begins and continues to crumble around her, over many decades. <em>Days of Light </em>not only tells the very moving story of Ivy, but also of the many possibilities she plays with in her mind, because, well, they are all <em>there</em>. </p><p><strong>At 28, I thought - is my life over, as a creative person? This novel is very much about new possibilities.</strong></p><p>Megan Hunter speaks seriously but with an infectious smile and laugh as she reflects on being a mother (she has two children), religion (she studied to become an Anglican priest and this novel is luminous with her own take on faith), marriage (she married young), sexuality (her own has changed), poetry, literature, history, art, nature…. Each of her three novels has a different ring to it. I tell her that although <em>Days of Light</em> is clearly inspired by and partly set in the literary and artistic tableaux of the  Bloomsbury Circle, I feel it has her very authentic own voice - on life <em>and</em> art.</p><p>There is a very intriguing bit of our conversation about how Megan Hunter adapts her own books into screenplays. She sees it as an opportunity to ‘make more changes to the original narrative’.  Is a novel ever really finished? Or is there always more to explore, more <em>possibilities…?</em></p><p>This novelist invites her readers to enjoy the unexpected, and to understand loss as part of one’s freedom to try yet another journey.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.panmacmillan.com/authors/megan-hunter/days-of-light/9781529010183">DAYS OF LIGHT BY MEGAN HUNTER</a></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_We_Start_From">THE END WE START FROM (film)</a></p><p>Publisher: Picador (Pan Macmilllan)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to PEN & PENCIL at <a href="https://elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe</a><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Ep. 8: FIONA SCARLETT</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2025 20:28:56 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to PEN & PENCIL at <a href="https://elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe</a><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Ep.7: JOHN BANVILLE</title>
			<itunes:title>Ep.7: JOHN BANVILLE</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2025 21:00:14 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Elena Lappin interviews Booker-winning Irish novelist at home in Dublin about his life's work, and his most recent crime novels. THE DROWNED is published by Faber.</p><p>Includes a reading from THE DROWNED by John Callanan.</p><p>Read more on elenalappin.substack.com</p><p>Enjoy and comment! Thank you.</p><p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to PEN & PENCIL at <a href="https://elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe</a><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title>Ep.6: DIANE OLIVER, CHERYL OLIVER, ALBA DE CESPEDES, ANN GOLDSTEIN</title>
			<itunes:title>Ep.6: DIANE OLIVER, CHERYL OLIVER, ALBA DE CESPEDES, ANN GOLDSTEIN</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2025 00:46:22 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Elena Lappin interviews Cheryl Oliver about her sister, Diane Oliver (1943-1966), author of NEIGHBORS AND OTHER STORIES; and Ann Goldstein, about her translation of Italian novelist Alba de Cespedes (1911-1997), author of THERE'S NO TURNING BACK from 1938. Literary rediscoveries of important writing from other eras, acutely relevant today.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to PEN & PENCIL at <a href="https://elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe</a><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Elena Lappin interviews Cheryl Oliver about her sister, Diane Oliver (1943-1966), author of NEIGHBORS AND OTHER STORIES; and Ann Goldstein, about her translation of Italian novelist Alba de Cespedes (1911-1997), author of THERE'S NO TURNING BACK from 1938. Literary rediscoveries of important writing from other eras, acutely relevant today.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to PEN & PENCIL at <a href="https://elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe</a><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Ep.5: TOM LAMONT</title>
			<itunes:title>Ep.5: TOM LAMONT</itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2025 21:54:13 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Ep.4: TESSA HADLEY</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2024 09:55:41 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Elena Lappin interviews Tessa Hadley</p><p>Tessa Hadley's novella The Party is published by Jonathan Cape.</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/468363/the-party-by-hadley-tessa/9781787335554">The Party</a></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to PEN & PENCIL at <a href="https://elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe</a><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Ep. 3: Naomi Westerman, Author of 'Happy Death Club']]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Ep. 3: Naomi Westerman, Author of 'Happy Death Club']]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2024 18:00:28 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Ep. 1: DENISE DORRANCE</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2024 10:16:20 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>POLAR VORTEX is a funny, moving, deeply personal and original graphic novel by cartoonist and writer Denise Dorrance. She talks to Elena Lappin about how she found a way to create art out of dealing with her mother’s dementia - during an ice storm.</p><p>POLAR VORTEX is published by New River (UK) and The Experiment Publishing (US).</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to PEN & PENCIL at <a href="https://elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe</a><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>POLAR VORTEX is a funny, moving, deeply personal and original graphic novel by cartoonist and writer Denise Dorrance. She talks to Elena Lappin about how she found a way to create art out of dealing with her mother’s dementia - during an ice storm.</p><p>POLAR VORTEX is published by New River (UK) and The Experiment Publishing (US).</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to PEN & PENCIL at <a href="https://elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe</a><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Ep. 2 CHIGOZIE OBIOMA</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2024 20:38:07 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>THE ROAD TO THE COUNTRY is Chigozie Obioma’s third novel, set in the time of Nigerian Civil War. In this podcast, we talk about how writing about a traumatic past can help us understand, and perhaps change, the present.</p><p>Elena Lappin’s Substack on Chigozie Obioma: elenalappin.substack.com</p><p></p><p>Credits:</p><p>Host: Elena Lappin</p><p>Guest: Chigozie Obioma</p><p>Creative Team:</p><p>Katherine Stroud, Publicity and Media (prcollective.co.uk)</p><p>Max Anstruther, Audio Producer (startsmallstudios.com)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to PEN & PENCIL at <a href="https://elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe</a><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>THE ROAD TO THE COUNTRY is Chigozie Obioma’s third novel, set in the time of Nigerian Civil War. In this podcast, we talk about how writing about a traumatic past can help us understand, and perhaps change, the present.</p><p>Elena Lappin’s Substack on Chigozie Obioma: elenalappin.substack.com</p><p></p><p>Credits:</p><p>Host: Elena Lappin</p><p>Guest: Chigozie Obioma</p><p>Creative Team:</p><p>Katherine Stroud, Publicity and Media (prcollective.co.uk)</p><p>Max Anstruther, Audio Producer (startsmallstudios.com)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to PEN & PENCIL at <a href="https://elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">elenalappin.substack.com/subscribe</a><p>Subscribe to our monthly <a href="https://bit.ly/4bcWyxs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">newsletter</a> to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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