They also talk about growing up in Northern Ireland during the Troubles, the escapism of punk, David's work as a composer on some of the 21st century's biggest films and TV shows, and much, much more.

Books mentioned in the podcast:

Rememberings by Sinéad O'Connor Rememberings a book by Sinead O'Connor. (bookshop.org)

Mods by Richard Barnes Mods a book by Richard Barnes. (bookshop.org)

England's Dreaming by Jon Savage England's Dreaming a book by Jon Savage. (bookshop.org)

You can buy Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here:

The Sound of Being Human by Jude Rogers - Audiobook - Audible.co.uk

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Their discussion also covers going to discos in the 70s, the greats of British music journalism, Tracey's teenage obsession with punk, and much, much more.

Tracey's latest book, My Rock 'n' Roll Friend, is 'a philosophical and furious memoir' that shines a light on her friendship with the Go-Betweens drummer Lindy Morrison, and is out now My Rock 'n' Roll Friend a book by Tracey Thorn. (bookshop.org)

Books mentioned in the podcast:

The Importance of Music to Girls by Lavinia Greenlaw The Importance of Music to Girls a book by Lavinia Greenlaw. (bookshop.org)

Bedsit Disco Queen by Tracey Thorn Bedsit Disco Queen: How I grew up and tried to be a pop star a book by Tracey Thorn. (bookshop.org)

Naked At The Albert Hall by Tracey Thorn Naked at the Albert Hall: The Inside Story of Singing a book by Tracey Thorn. (bookshop.org)

Another Planet by Tracey Thorn Another Planet: A Teenager in Suburbia a book by Tracey Thorn. (bookshop.org)

Lady Sings The Blues by Billie Holiday Lady Sings the Blues a book by Billie Holiday. (bookshop.org)

England's Dreaming by Jon Savage England's Dreaming a book by Jon Savage. (bookshop.org)

A Little Devil In America by Hanif Abdurraqib A Little Devil in America: In Praise of Black Performance a book by Hanif Abdurraqib. (bookshop.org)

You can buy Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here:

The Sound of Being Human by Jude Rogers - Audiobook - Audible.co.uk

Finally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo

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They also chat about Mat's own writing processes, his competitive relationship with brother Richard growing up, and Suede's tour with Manic Street Preachers coming next year.

Mat's latest book, The Ghost Theatre, is a riotous and abundant piece of historical fiction based in Elizabethan London, and is out now The Ghost Theatre: Utterly transporting historical fiction, Elizabethan London as you've never seen it a book by Mat Osman. (bookshop.org)

Books mentioned in the podcast:

A Year With Swollen Appendices by Brian Eno A Year with Swollen Appendices: Brian Eno's Diary a book by Brian Eno. (bookshop.org)

Starlust by Fred Vermorel Starlust: The Secret Fantasies of Fans a book by Fred Vermorel. (bookshop.org)

Birdsong by Sebastian Faulks Birdsong a book by Sebastian Faulks. (bookshop.org)

Wonderland Avenue by Danny Sugarland Wonderland Avenue: Tales of Glamour and Excess a book by Danny Sugerman. (bookshop.org)

Nico, Songs They Never Play On The Radio by James Young Nico, Songs They Never Play on the Radio a book by James Young. (bookshop.org)

Berlin Bromley by Bertie Marshall

You can buy Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here:

The Sound of Being Human by Jude Rogers - Audiobook - Audible.co.uk

Finally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo

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The discussion also takes in Ben's early years working in the music press, the personal significance of Jon Savage's England's Dreaming, the differences between writing novels and writing about music, and much more.

Ben's new book Cuddy, a bold and experimental retelling of the story of the hermit St. Cuthbert, unofficial patron saint of the North of England, is out now Cuddy a book by Benjamin Myers. (bookshop.org)

Books mentioned in the podcast:

The KLF by John Higgs The KLF: Chaos, Magic and the Band who Burned a Million Pounds a book by John Higgs. (bookshop.org)

Richard by Benjamin Myers Richard by Ben Myers - Pan Macmillan

Head On/Repossessed by Julian Cope Head On/Repossessed a book by Julian Cope. (bookshop.org)

I'm Not with the Band by Sylvia Patterson I'm Not with the Band: A Writer's Life Lost in Music a book by Sylvia Patterson. (bookshop.org)

England's Dreaming by Jon Savage England's Dreaming a book by Jon Savage. (bookshop.org)

The Truth About Rock by Dr Hugh Pyle The Truth about Rock Music - Hugh F. Pyle: 9780873988391 - AbeBooks

Muse, Odalisque, Handmaiden by Rose Simpson Muse, Odalisque, Handmaiden: A Girl's Life in the Incredible String Band a book by Rose Simpson. (bookshop.org)

Get In The Van by Henry Rollins Get in the Van : On the Road With Black Flag by Rollins, Henry: Near Fine Soft cover (1995) 2nd Edition | Books for Amnesty Bristol

You can buy Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here:

The Sound of Being Human by Jude Rogers - Audiobook - Audible.co.uk

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Their conversation also takes in Laura's work with the inimitable Self Esteem, being a woman in the music press, dancing to The Strokes, and much more.

Laura's memoir, Sad Songs, is publishing in May 2023 and is a beautifully written enquiry into the history, science and musicology of our love of sad music Sad Songs a book by Laura Barton

Books mentioned in the podcast:

A Little Devil In America by Hanif Abdurraqib A Little Devil in America: In Praise of Black Performance a book by Hanif Abdurraqib

Under My Thumb, edited by Rhian Jones and Eli Davis Under My Thumb: Songs that hate women and the women who love them a book by Rhian Jones and Eli Davis

The Crane Wife by CJ Hauser The Crane Wife: A Memoir in Essays a book by Christina Joyce Hauser

Faithfull by Marianne Faithfull Faithfull: An Autobiography - Faithfull, Marianne: 9780815410461 - AbeBooks

They Can't Kill Us Until They Kill Us by Hanif Abdurraqib They Can't Kill Us Until They Kill Us a book by Hanif Abdurraqib

The Folk by Ross Cole The Folk: Music, Modernity, and the Political Imagination a book by Ross Cole

Denim and Leather by Michael Hann Denim and Leather: The Rise and Fall of the New Wave of British Heavy Metal a book by Michael Hann

Sound Within Sound by Kate Molleson Sound Within Sound: Opening Our Ears to the Twentieth Century a book by Kate Molleson

You can buy Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here:

The Sound of Being Human by Jude Rogers - Audiobook - Audible.co.uk

Finally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo

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The discussion also takes in Paul's Liverpool childhood and the huge impact of The Beatles, his storied career in the music press, interviewing the iconic Amy Winehouse, and much more.

Books mentioned in the podcast:

Conversations With McCartney by Paul Du Noyer Conversations with McCartney a book by Paul Du Noyer. (bookshop.org)

John by Cynthia Lennon John a book by Cynthia Lennon. (bookshop.org)

Awopbopaloobop Alopbamboom by Nik Cohn Awopbopaloobop Alopbamboom: Pop from the Beginning a book by Nik Cohn. (bookshop.org)

The Beatles: The Authorised Biography by Hunter Davies The Beatles: The Authorised Biography a book by Hunter Davies. (bookshop.org)

I'm Coming To Take You To Lunch: A fantastic tale of boys, booze and how Wham! were sold to China by Simon Napier-Bell I'm Coming To Take You To Lunch: A fantastic tale of boys, booze and how Wham! were sold to China a book by Simon Napier-Bell. (bookshop.org)

Black Vinyl White Powder by Simon Napier-Bell Black Vinyl White Powder by Simon Napier-Bell | Waterstones

Up The Junction by Nell Dunn Up The Junction: A Virago Modern Classic a book by Nell Dunn. (bookshop.org)

You can buy Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here:

The Sound of Being Human by Jude Rogers - Audiobook - Audible.co.uk

The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives a book by Jude Rogers. (bookshop.org)

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They also discuss Lias' own experiences of writing a book, the death of rock 'n' roll, how Fat White Family might be viewed in ten years time, and much, much more.

Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure by Lias Saoudi and Adelle Stripe chronicles the sordid and thrilling stories of the country's most notorious cult band and is now available in paperback:

Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure a book by Adelle Stripe and Lias Saoudi

Ten Thousand Apologies by Adelle Stripe, Lias Saoudi - Audiobook - Audible.co.uk

Books mentioned in the podcast:

Hellfire by Nick Tosches Hellfire : Nick Tosches : 9780141924427 : Blackwell's

Sing Backwards And Weep by Mark Lanegan Sing Backwards and Weep by Mark Lanegan - Audiobook - Audible.co.uk

Lipstick Traces by Greil Marcus Lipstick Traces: A Secret History of the Twentieth Century a book by Greil Marcus

Dead Elvis by Greil Marcus Dead Elvis: A Chronicle of a Cultural Obsession a book by Greil Marcus

Unfinished Business by Michael Bracewell Unfinished Business a book by Michael Bracewell

Teaching a Stone to Talk by Annie Dillard Teaching a Stone to Talk: Expeditions and Encounters a book by Annie Dillard

You can buy Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here:

The Sound of Being Human by Jude Rogers - Audiobook - Audible.co.uk

Finally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo

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They also cover a multitude of topics including the challenges and joys of self-publishing, the 90s outside of britpop, the bravery of being the first person on the dance floor, and much more.

Emma's new book Dance Your Way Home: A Journey Through the Dancefloor is an intimate foray onto the dancefloor, part-memoir, part-social and cultural history, publishing on 16th March 2023 Dance Your Way Home: A Journey Through the Dancefloor a book by Emma Warren. (bookshop.org)

Books mentioned in the podcast:

Make Some Space: Tuning Into Total Refreshment Centre by Emma Warren *Audiobook* Make Some Space: Tuning into Total Refreshment Centre | Emma Warren | Sweet Machine Publishing (bandcamp.com)

Document Your Culture by Emma Warren *Audiobook* Document Your Culture | Emma Warren | Sweet Machine Publishing (bandcamp.com)

Bass, Mids, Tops: An Oral History of Sound System Culture by Joe Muggs and Brian David Stevens Bass, Mids, Tops: An Oral History of Sound System Culture a book by Joe Muggs and Brian David Stevens. (bookshop.org)

All Crews by Brian Belle-Fortune All Crews Book - All Crews

A Choreographer's Handbook by Jonathan Burrows A Choreographer's Handbook a book by Jonathan Burrows. (bookshop.org)

Reggae Bloodlines: In Search of the Music and Culture of Jamaica by Stephen Davis and Peter Simon Reggae Bloodlines: In Search of the Music and Culture of Jamaica by Simon, Peter,Davis, Stephen: Good Paperback (1992) | WeBuyBooks (abebooks.co.uk)

A Quick Ting On Afrobeats by Christian Adofo A Quick Ting On Afrobeats a book by Christian Adofo. (bookshop.org)

You can buy the paperback edition of Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: The Sound of Being Human a book by Jude Rogers. (bookshop.org)

Finally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo

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Their insightful and often inspiring conversation takes in the role that music can play in teaching, hip hop as party music, the cultural and political power of rap, and much more.

Jeffrey's 2021 book Musical Truth: A Musical Journey Through Modern Black Britain has been described as "engaging and accomplished… perfectly judged for young readers" by the Guardian - Musical Truth: A Musical Journey Through Modern Black Britain a book by Jeffrey Boakye and Ngadi Smart. (bookshop.org)

Books mentioned in the podcast:

The Rap Year Book by Shea Serrano The Rap Year Book: The Most Important Rap Song From Every Year Since 1979, Discussed, Debated, and Deconstructed a book by Shea Serrano and Arturo Torres

The Music Instinct by Philip Ball The Music Instinct: How Music Works and Why We Can't Do Without It a book by Philip Ball

Hold Tight by Jeffrey Boakye Hold Tight: Black Masculinity, Millennials and the Meaning of Grime [New Edition] a book by Jeffrey Boakye

Black, Listed by Jeffrey Boakye Black, Listed: Black British Culture Explored a book by Jeffrey Boakye

I Heard What You Said by Jeffrey Boakye I Heard What You Said: A black teacher. A white system. A revolution in education. a book by Jeffrey Boakye

Inner City Pressure: The Story of Grime by Dan Hancox Inner City Pressure: The Story of Grime a book by Dan Hancox

The Commitments by Roddy Doyle The Commitments a book by Roddy Doyle

Decoded by Jay-Z Decoded by Jay Z | Waterstones

You can buy the paperback edition of Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: The Sound of Being Human a book by Jude Rogers. (bookshop.org)

Finally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo

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Their conversation also takes in Cosey's memories of listening to pop music as a child, her relationship with her hometown of Hull, and the importance of abandoning pre-conceptions when listening to music.

Cosey's 2022 book Re-Sisters: The Lives and Recordings of Delia Derbyshire, Margery Kempe and Cosey Fanni Tutti is a vital meditation on womanhood, creativity and self-expression, and a revelatory exploration into the lives of three visionary artists - Re-Sisters: The Lives and Recordings of Delia Derbyshire, Margery Kempe and Cosey Fanni Tutti a book by Cosey Fanni Tutti. (bookshop.org)

Books mentioned in the podcast:

Art Sex Music by Cosey Fanni Tutti Art Sex Music a book by Cosey Fanni Tutti. (bookshop.org)

An Individual Note of Music, Sound and Electronics by Daphne Oram Daphne Oram - an Individual Note of Music, Sound and Electronics a book by Daphne Oram. (bookshop.org)

Quantum Listening by Pauline Oliveros Quantum Listening a book by Pauline Oliveros. (bookshop.org)

Sound Within Sound: Opening Our Ears to the Twentieth Century by Kate Molleson Sound Within Sound: Opening Our Ears to the Twentieth Century a book by Kate Molleson. (bookshop.org)

Up Above the City, Down Beneath the Stars by Barry Adamson Up Above the City, Down Beneath the Stars a book by Barry Adamson. (bookshop.org)

You can buy the paperback edition of Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: The Sound of Being Human a book by Jude Rogers. (bookshop.org)

Finally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo

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The conversation also covers everything from abandoned Saint Etienne albums to Bob's experience of writing music for film soundtracks, and the impact that being a music critic has had on his own career as a musician.

Bob's 2022 book, Let's Do It: The Birth of Pop was described as "wide-ranging and learned, opinionated and funny, and justly critically acclaimed" by the Guardian - Let's Do It: The Birth of Pop a book by Bob Stanley. (bookshop.org)

Books mentioned in the podcast:

The House That George Built: With a Little Help from Irving, Cole, and a Crew of about Fifty by Wilfrid Sheed 9780812970180: The House That George Built: With a Little Help from Irving, Cole, and a Crew of about Fifty - Sheed, Wilfrid: 0812970187 - AbeBooks

Yeah Yeah Yeah by Bob Stanley Yeah Yeah Yeah: The Story of Modern Pop a book by Bob Stanley. (bookshop.org)

A Wop Bopaloo Bop Alop Bam Boom by Nick Cohn A Wop Bopaloo Bop Alop Bam Boom. Pop- History. by Nik Cohn | medimops (abebooks.co.uk)

England's Dreaming: The Sex Pistols and Punk Rock England's Dreaming a book by Jon Savage. (bookshop.org)

Rhythm And The Blues: A Life in American Music by Jerry Wexler Rhythm And The Blues: A Life in American Music by Jerry Wexler: GOOD Hardcover (1993) | Discover Books (abebooks.co.uk)

The Tastemaker: My Life with the Legends and Geniuses of Rock Music by Tony King The Tastemaker: My Life with the Legends and Geniuses of Rock Music a book by Tony King. (bookshop.org)

What Was Lost by Catherine O'Flynn & E.A. What Was Lost a book by Catherine O'Flynn and E.A Markham. (bookshop.org)

You can buy the paperback edition of Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: The Sound of Being Human a book by Jude Rogers. (bookshop.org)

Finally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo

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They also discuss Danyel's childhood love of pop, the ever-changing nature of fan culture in music, how people misunderstand and underestimate the power of African-American women in the music industry, and much more.

A fascinating and joyous conversation. Danyel's Shine Bright: A Very Personal History of Black Women in Pop was named the best music book of 2022 by Pitchfork - Shine Bright: A Very Personal History of Black Women in Pop a book by Danyel Smith (bookshop.org)

Books mentioned in the podcast:

I, Tina: My Life Story by Tina Turner I, Tina: My Life Story a book by Tina Turner and Kurt Loder (bookshop.org)

Flip The Script: How Women Came To Rule Hip Hop Flip The Script: How Women Came to Rule Hip Hop a book by Arusa Qureshi. (bookshop.org)

Soul Survivor by P.P. Arnold Soul Survivor: The Autobiography: The extraordinary memoir of a music icon a book by P.P. Arnold. (bookshop.org)

Lady Sings The Blues by Billie Holiday Lady Sings the Blues a book by Billie Holiday. (bookshop.org)

Careless Love: The Unmaking of Elvis Presley by Peter Guralnik Careless Love: The Unmaking of Elvis Presley a book by Peter Guralnick. (bookshop.org)

Rock She Wrote: Women Write About Rock, Pop, and Rap edited by Evelyn McDonnell & Ann Powers Rock She Wrote a book by Ann Powers and Evelyn McDonnell (bookshop.org)

Her Name Is Barbara by Jim Smith B Her Name Is Barbra a book by Jim Smith (bookshop.org)

You can buy the paperback edition of Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: The Sound of Being Human a book by Jude Rogers. (bookshop.org)

Finally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo

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They also dive deep in to Miki's experience of writing her Rough Trade Book of the Year winning memoir, Fingers Crossed, her disdain for 'Britpop', her childhood love of Carmen Miranda, the joy of being a young music fan in London in the 1980s, and much more.

Books mentioned in the podcast:

Fingers Crossed by Miki Berenyi Fingers Crossed: How Music Saved Me from Success: Rough Trade Book of the Year a book by Miki Berenyi

Clothes. Music. Boys. by Viv Albertine Clothes, Clothes, Clothes. Music, Music, Music. Boys, Boys, Boys. a book by Viv Albertine

Paper Cuts by Ted Kessler Paper Cuts: How I Destroyed the British Music Press and Other Misadventures a book by Ted Kessler.

It Crawled From The South: An REM Companion by Marcus Grey It Crawled From the South: An R.E.M. Companion: Amazon.co.uk: Gray, Marcus: 9781857023541: Books

Liverpool Explodes by Mark Garrett Cooper Liverpool Explodes: Amazon.co.uk: Cooper, Mark Garrett: 9780283988660: Books

Bedsit Disco Queen by Tracey Thorn Bedsit Disco Queen: How I grew up and tried to be a pop star a book by Tracey Thorn

My Rock 'n' Roll Friend by Tracey Thorn My Rock 'n' Roll Friend a book by Tracey Thorn

I'm Not With The Band by Sylvia Patterson I'm Not with the Band: A Writer's Life Lost in Music a book by Sylvia Patterson

Lead Sister by Lucy O'Brien Lead Sister: The Story of Karen Carpenter a book by Lucy O'Brien

Why Karen Carpenter Matters by Karen Tongson Why Karen Carpenter Matters a book by Karen Tongson

You can buy the paperback edition of Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: The Sound of Being Human a book by Jude Rogers. (bookshop.org)

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Admitting that she was very nervous to revisit an era she had long tried to leave behind her, and a person she didn’t like being compared to, she quickly reveals that reading the book was a revelation.

Along the way we hear about her dad wishing she’d been a boy, what she’d misunderstood about Marianne Faithfull and why people have the sixties all wrong.

A brilliantly insightful conversation with a true British musical legend (and some strong language, be warned!).

Books mentioned in the podcast:

Wayward by Vashti Bunyan https://uk.bookshop.org/books/wayward-just-another-life-to-live/9781474621939

Bert Weedon’s Play in a Day https://uk.bookshop.org/books/bert-weedon-s-play-in-a-day/9780571529650 

Faithfull: An Autobiograhpy by Marianne Faithfull with David Dalton https://www.amazon.co.uk/Faithfull-Autobiography-Marianne/dp/0815410468

Bodies: Life and Death in Music by Ian Winwood https://uk.bookshop.org/books/bodies-life-and-death-in-music/9780571364183

Clothes, clothes, clothes. Music, music, music. Boys, boys, boys. By Viv Albertine https://uk.bookshop.org/books/clothes-clothes-clothes-music-music-music-boys-boys-boys/9780571351343

The Foghorn’s Lament by Jennifer Lucy Allen https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-foghorn-s-lament-the-disappearing-music-of-the-coast/9781474615037

You can buy Jude's book The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-sound-of-being-human-how-music-shapes-our-lives/9781474622929

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As well as delving into the grimy Manchester life of singer Nico and her manager Alan Wise that the book portrays they also cover, amongst many things, the intrigue of Adam Ant, why reading about failure is more fun than reading about success, misogyny and how to write about drug use without glamorising it.

Books mentioned in the podcast:

Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure by Adelle Stripe https://bit.ly/3QMfkO2

The Boy Looked at Johnny by Julie Birchill and Tony Parsons https://bit.ly/3RMBrFu

England’s Dreaming by Jon Savage https://uk.bookshop.org/books/england-s-dreaming/9780571368549

You are Beautiful and You are Alone by Jennifer Otter Bickerdike https://uk.bookshop.org/books/you-are-beautiful-and-you-are-alone-the-biography-of-nico/9780571350018

Coal Black Mornings by Brett Anderson https://uk.bookshop.org/books/coal-black-mornings/9781408710487

Hellfire: the Jerry Lee Lewis Story by Nick Tosches https://bit.ly/3LeZFFN

Kitch: A Fictional Biography of a Calypso Star by Anthony Joseph https://bit.ly/3LdH0KA

You can buy Jude's book The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-sound-of-being-human-how-music-shapes-our-lives/9781474622929

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Getting together to unpick Paul McCartney's recent bestseller The Lyrics, revelations abound. From Geoff telling Jude how his wife uses The Beatles as a carrot to get him to do stuff to whether Macca admits to watching bad films about himself. They discuss how hard it is to get McCartney off-script, the Beatles' skill at legacy-building and whether Geoff will admit to having a favourite Beatle. 

For fans and non-fans alike.

Books mentioned in the podcast:

Paul McCartney: Many Years from Now by Barry Miles (used only) https://bit.ly/3TPTDiT

Revolution in the Head by Ian McDonald https://bit.ly/3AYFffy

One Two Three Four by Craig Brown https://bit.ly/3BnAn5m

Postcards from the Boys by Ringo Starr (used only) https://bit.ly/3KVnW3J

The Beatles - All These Years Vol. I by Mark Lewisohn https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-beatles-all-these-years-volume-one-tune-in/9781408705759

Hunter Davies

My Life in Pictures by Pattie Boyd https://uk.bookshop.org/books/my-life-in-pictures/9781909526907

How to be Invisible by Kate Bush https://uk.bookshop.org/books/how-to-be-invisible/9780571350940

You can buy Jude's book The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-sound-of-being-human-how-music-shapes-our-lives/9781474622929

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Zakia has a lifelong interest in and love of folk in all its myriad forms and definitions - some of which they grapple with here!

Jude and Zakia also delve into childhood mix tapes, Albion, the quest for meaning in dark times and the complex politics of collecting folk songs.

Books mentioned:

The Folk: Music, Modernity and the Political Imagination by Ross Cole https://bit.ly/3AANFJZ

Blues People by LeRoi Jones (Amiri Baraka) https://uk.bookshop.org/books/blues-people/9781838858148

You can buy Jude's book The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-sound-of-being-human-how-music-shapes-our-lives/9781474622929

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As well as digging into the life of Bessie they also discuss how music provides solace, childhood encounters with music, whether women are allowed to be straight up authorities on music, radical lyrics and the complications of discussing a female musician’s clothes.

Books mentioned in the podcast:

Sound Within Sound: Opening Our Ears to the Twentieth Century by Kate Molleson https://bit.ly/3bZkZC2

Us Conductors by Sean Michaels https://uk.bookshop.org/books/us-conductors/9781408868690

The Musical Life of Gustav Mole by Kathryn Meyrick https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-musical-life-of-gustav-mole/9780859533331

Bessie Smith by Jackie Kay https://bit.ly/3wddpuF

You can buy Jude's book The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-sound-of-being-human-how-music-shapes-our-lives/9781474622929

Finally White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo

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A wonderful conversation that takes in (amongst many things) Lloyd’s chef training, being sent baby clothes by George Clinton, becoming Shakin’ Stevens ‘envoy on earth’, the responsibility of flying the flag for black music writers in the UK and why music right now is in the best place it’s ever been. 

Books mentioned in the podcast:

You can pre-order Lloyd’s next book, Funk is Its Own Reward, here https://uk.bookshop.org/books/funk-is-its-own-reward-from-r-b-to-hip-hop/9781472123411

Bass Culture by Lloyd Bradley https://uk.bookshop.org/books/bass-culture-when-reggae-was-king/9780140237634  

Music: A Subversive History by Ted Gioia https://amzn.to/3wbH0oe

Meet Me at Jim and Andy’s by Gene Lees https://uk.bookshop.org/books/meet-me-at-jim-and-andy-s-jazz-musicians-and-their-world/9780195046113

Move on Up by Aaron Cohen https://uk.bookshop.org/books/move-on-up-chicago-soul-music-and-black-cultural-power/9780226653037

You can buy Jude's book The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-sound-of-being-human-how-music-shapes-our-lives/9781474622929

Finally White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo

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Ian has picked a book about his beloved Joy Division. Touching from a Distance is written by Joy Division singer Ian Curtis's wife Deborah and was published fifteen years after he died in 1980.

In this episode they chat early music experiences, toxic masculinity and the existential thriller Ian plotted out but never quite wrote based on Joy Division’s Unknown Pleasures. There's still time Ian, there's still time! 

You can pre-order Ian Rankin's new book here https://geni.us/AHeartFullOfHeadstones

Other books mentioned in the podcast:

England’s Dreaming by Jon Savage https://uk.bookshop.org/books/england-s-dreaming/9780571368549

Awopbopaloobop Alopbamboom by Nik Cohn https://uk.bookshop.org/books/awopbopaloobop-alopbamboom-pop-from-the-beginning/9781784870485

Unknown Pleasures: Inside Joy Division by Peter Hook https://uk.bookshop.org/books/unknown-pleasures-inside-joy-division/9781471148330

Substance: Inside New Order by Peter Hook https://uk.bookshop.org/books/substance-inside-new-order/9781471132421

Chapter and Verse - New Order, Joy Division and Me by Bernard Sumner https://uk.bookshop.org/books/chapter-and-verse-new-order-joy-division-and-me/9780552170499

Record Play Pause: Confessions of a Post-Punk Percussionist: the Joy Division Years: Volume I by Stephen Morris https://bit.ly/3JHMhtg

Fast Forward: Confessions of a Post-Punk Percussionist: Volume II by Stephen Morris https://bit.ly/3QDEvTv

Joy Division: Juvenes by Kevin Cummins https://uk.bookshop.org/books/joy-division-juvenes/9781788402712

Charlotte Sometimes by Penelope Farmer https://uk.bookshop.org/books/charlotte-sometimes/9780141379210

You can buy Jude's book The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-sound-of-being-human-how-music-shapes-our-lives/9781474622929

Finally White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo

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Whilst chatting about the book Jude and Stephanie manage to cover Destiny’s Child, reading the NME in the noughties, writing teenage diaries, the dreaded 'what's it like being a woman in a band' question and why Stephanie doesn't need or indeed want to play music with men.

A brilliant chat between two brilliant women.

Books mentioned in the podcast:

Why Solange Matters by Stephanie Philips https://bit.ly/3ByoEkM

Guitar Girl by Sarra Manning https://uk.bookshop.org/books/guitar-girl/9780340860717

Paradoxical Undressing [or Rat Girl in the US] by Kristin Hersch https://bit.ly/3oNq1nV

My Rock n Roll Friend by Tracey Thorn https://bit.ly/3OVCwZs

The Raincoats by Jenn Pelly https://bit.ly/3OVOgv1

Girls to the Front: The True Story of the Riot Grrrl Revolution by Sara Marcus https://bit.ly/3oQNSTM

What Are You Doing Here?: A Black Woman's Life and Liberation in Heavy Metal by Laina Dawes https://bit.ly/3cPVymu

You can buy Jude's book The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-sound-of-being-human-how-music-shapes-our-lives/9781474622929

Finally White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo

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From men taking all the credit to going to dinner at David Attenborough's house, witnessing the horrific racism of the Deep South in the 1950s to what luxuries she would take to a Desert Island, this is an epic journey of an episode.

Jude and Shirley go back a long way, and the warmth, humour and range of their chat provides an amazing insight into a true legend. For Shirley fans and newcomers alike.

Books mentioned in the podcast:

https://store.whiterabbitbooks.co.uk/collections/author-shirley-collins-pid-240068/products/america-over-the-water

https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-land-where-blues-began/9781565847392

http://www.thecopperfamily.com/the-books.html

https://uk.bookshop.org/books/1605843623_english-folk-songs-from-the-southern-appalachians-vol-1/9781935243175

https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-new-penguin-book-of-english-folk-songs/9780141194622

You can buy Jude's book The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-sound-of-being-human-how-music-shapes-our-lives/9781474622929

Finally White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo

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Using the book as a jumping-off point they cover everything from favourite music writing to Barry Manilow, the seduction of being worshipped to the darker side of obsessive fandom.

Books mentioned in the podcast:

Starlust by Fred and Judy Vermorel (second hand only) https://www.abebooks.co.uk/book-search/title/starlust-secret-life-fans/author/vermorel-fred-judy/

Coal Black Mornings by Brett Anderson, Matt Thorne et al https://uk.bookshop.org/books/coal-black-mornings/9781408710487

Afternoons with the Blinds Drawn by Brett Anderson https://uk.bookshop.org/books/afternoons-with-the-blinds-drawn/9780349143644

Just Kids by Patti Smith https://uk.bookshop.org/books/just-kids-9780747568766/9780747568766

No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs by John Lydon (second hand) https://www.abebooks.co.uk/book-search/title/rotten-no-irish-no-blacks-no-dogs/author/john-lydon/

You can pre-order Suede's new album here: https://Suede.lnk.to/autofictionPD

You can buy Jude's book The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-sound-of-being-human-how-music-shapes-our-lives/9781474622929

Finally White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo

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In every episode host Jude Rogers and a special guest delve into the history of great writing about music by choosing a classic book, exploring its history and legacy and discussing what makes it so special. There’ll be some books you’ll have heard of, plenty you definitely won’t have, but either way this podcast is guaranteed to expand both your bookshelf and your record collection. So dive on in and feed your head…

Songbook is brought to you by White Rabbit, the imprint dedicated to the most innovative voices in music and literature.

store.whiterabbitbooks.co.uk

Music by David Holmes

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