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Show Notes

5:00When did Ant first get hooked on music, and learning instruments as a kid and in school

“I really enjoyed stories- lyrics and all that.”

11:55Forming the first band that started to get traction

E-Town Concrete

“There was a local music paper called The Aquarian, and I would go get it and then look in the back, all the advertisements for shows at all the venues, and I would just call the venues and try and get in opening slots for all the bands.”

23:30Putting out albums and getting interest from labels

“Just get in the door- don’t shoot yourself in the foot before you even get there.”

Razor and Tie

30:20Deciding to move into the business side of music, and leaving the band

“Hustle trumps talent in a lot of ways.”

36:30Big Daddy Distribution, and learning about labels and marketing

Learning management on a larger level with Ferret Records

39:30Moving into Hip Hop

Crush Management, and the next level of money in music

Almost managing Gym Class Heroes, and getting to work with The Pack

51:00Tyga

Receiving the Young on Probation mixtape

“He had a ‘it’ factor. When I met him he was a 16-year-old kid, but he just looked famous- he had this aura about him. He had it, he had the swag.”

60:00Closing thoughts

“Nothing is a loss or waste of time if you can get a lesson out of it.”

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Domingo- The importance of mentors

Thu, 12 Nov 2020 16:02:30 GMT

This week we sit down with Domingo Padilla, a music legend with over 30 years of experience under his belt as a producer for some of the biggest names in rap and hip-hop. Domingo shares with us his experiences, the importance of mentors, publishing, and more, on this episode of The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:55Where Domingo is from, where he is now, and the impact of Covid-19

“Business didn’t slow down- one of the business I own is online so it keeps generating, keeps running.”

5:26Domingo’s first exposure to music, and the path to pursuing it on a professional level.

Marley Marl- In Control Vol. 2

18:00Being a producer versus being a rapper, the Art of Mentorship, and having thick skin

“If you can’t take constructive criticism, you’re in the wrong game”

30:30The give-and-take of working with other artists, and longevity

“I think mentoring the business-end is a lot more important… Longevity is the key.”

38:55“Publishing is like real-estate in the music business.”

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44:54What’s next for Domingo

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Anthony Lee Norris - Believing in yourself

Wed, 28 Oct 2020 18:58:31 GMT

Anthony Lee Norris, better known as Lee on the Beats, joins us to talk about growing up in music, the people in his corner, the power of technology, and why it's important to believe in yourself, on this episode of The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:30Where Anthony is from and where he is with Covid-19

Desert Storm

7:50The impact of family, support, pressure and guiding youth

“I’m not everybody…”

12:40Soundclick, and getting started as an artist

19:30Making the connections and turning music into a career from a hobby

“It really all goes back to Desert Storm, family and those people guiding me along the way.”

22:48The impact of technology.

“Twitter was one of the keys to succes… Myspace, Twitter, Instagram, these are relatively new

things to life… Now when Twitter came along its different, because your looking at a feed and its people just writing messages, so I’m on their following people, following artists, and some artists start putting up their emails.”

28:03Pop That by French Montana, and leading up the DJ Khaled

“It was like FAST fast, and I don’t think anybody expected it- I didn’t expect it, I don’t even think

my people in my corner expected it, nobody expected it. Maybe French expected it- you know like the people that were actually on the song expected it, but as far as the people on the outside looking in, I didn’t expect it.”

38:13Retrospective and what could have been done differently, and what’s next

“I felt like if all that time I spent in those clubs, if I had spent those times in the studio… Who

knows what I could have done at that specific time.”

43:50“I want to shout out to all the artists I’m working with- there’s a whole list of them- I just want

them to all know I appreciate them, and we’re going to keep making fire.”

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Brad Rempel - Record Contracts and always being grateful

Wed, 14 Oct 2020 20:24:51 GMT

Like many artists, Brad Rempel got out of his first record contract. But unlike others, he harbors no ill will. In this episode of The Big Break, the High Valley founder explains why artists shouldn’t “crucify” the companies making early bets on your career.

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Show Notes

2:30 Brad’s background, Canada, and life in Covid

9:00The start of music from living in a rural town, and falling in love with country music.

“I literally did not know who Michael Jackson was until I moved to Nashville.”

13:40The first concert, Mid South, and the creation of High Valley

20:00Learning about managing money, and touring

25:05The first ‘break’

Meeting John Mays and the road to a record deal

32:51The move to Nashville, Brad learns the truth about being a big fish in a small pond and what the

real level of competition is.

35:20The second ‘break’

Buying out of the record deal to go completely independent.

“I don’t understand why we try and crucify them later on in our careers when all of a sudden

we’re making real money and now we just hate them and think they’re evil people. What about

back in the day when nobody would give you five bucks for anything you had, and this person

offered you some real money to live off of?”

41:09A kids Jiu Jitsu class, and a bagel at Panera Bread bridges the gap to the US market, and

everything blows up

Make You Mine

49:30Brad tells us about the business perspective for buying out of his contracts, and what’s next

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Adam Craig - Focusing on the work

Wed, 30 Sep 2020 22:19:46 GMT

This week we are joined by Adam Craig. Adam has experience on both sides of the coin. He has pursued a career as a recording and touring artist, and was even named by Rolling Stone as one of the top 10 country acts to know in 2016, but he's recently put the road to rest to focus on his passion for songwriting.

Adam has contributed to Church Pew and Barstool by Jason Aldean, Whiskey on my Breath by Love and Theft, and Close Your Eyes by Parmalee among many others. Adam provides us with some great perspective as a songwriter, while keeping a foot in the performer camp, and how focusing on the work can deliver the goal in the end, on this episode of The Big Break

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Show Notes

3:10How the pandemic has affected Adam, both professionally and personally

8:24Social media and the new landscape of music promotion

John Marx and getting involved with XM

11:34Meeting Jake Owen’s producer, Adam drops everything to focus and improve and starting the

road to Nashville

“I’d meet a girl and tell her I loved her just to get my heart broken.”

16:00Adam moves to Nashville in pursuit of country music

“I came here to be Tim McGraw.”

21:30Getting, and losing, publishing deals, and then the snowball of hits that lead to a record deal

Church Pews and Barstools by Jason Aldean

30:13Transitioning from songwriter, to performer, to songwriter

40:00How do you lose a publishing deal?

42:42What’s next for Adam Craig

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Matt Rogers - Understanding your Publishing deal

Thu, 17 Sep 2020 00:03:53 GMT

Matt Rogers is a songwriting dynamo. He has written for major country artists like Brett Aldridge, Luke Bryan, Dustin Lynch, Justin Moore, Chris Young, Jimmie Allen, and tons more- even branching out to other genre artists like Jordin Sparks.

Matt started his music career in Nashville, like many other artists, but it wasn’t until a chance opportunity allowed him to play some songs for a publisher, at a bar, while filming a documentary that things started to click into place. Matt joins us to share his experiences as a songwriter on this episode of The Big Break.

Show Notes

2:10 How the pandemic has impacted Matt and songwriting as a profession

4:07How Matt first got into music, starting as a journalist

9:35Getting to Nashville, as an editor, and starting to work as a songwriter

“Okay buddy, you got something going on here that maybe we should try to pursue…”

15:10Getting meetings with PRO’s, Publishers, and Labels, and keeping momentum with your circle

“When I got there, there was like a camera man, and a couple people, and they were talking to the publisher and a couple writers, and the guy I was writing with was like ‘why don’t you play them a song?’ so I grabbed a guitar and played a song, and the publisher said ‘play me another one…’”

24:30Negotiating, and understanding, your publishing deal

“When you are getting to the stage of a [publishing deal], the best advice I would give anybody is get a great lawyer.”

28:45Matt’s first hit- We Went by Randy Houser

35:08The network and circles of writers, and working to cast a wide net

“You cast a wider net- let’s say I write for Sony, and I write a song with a guy who writes for Warner Chappell, and I write with another writer who writes for Big Yellow Dog. Now we have three sets of publishers slinging this song around town instead of just one.”

38:20Catalog sales, and what’s next

“We look at every song as a potential, life-changing, financial aspiration.”

45:15How do people follow you and keep up with you?

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A Little Less Broken by Luke Bryan

The One You Need by Brett Eldredge

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Jack Forman- Live Performances in the age of Covid-19

Wed, 02 Sep 2020 21:40:04 GMT

Show Notes

Our guest this week is Jack Forman, President of BiCoastal Productions. BiCoastal is a booking agency working with acts like Colin Mochrie, Scotland’s Red Hot Chilli Pipers, The Daily Show Writers Comedy Tour, and tons more.

Jack joins us to discuss the state of the industry today, and how the live performance world is adjusting to the new normal of the Covid-19 pandemic, on this episode of The Big Break.

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4:38Jack’s inspiration for working in the music industry, schooling and learning the industry

11:15The impact of Covid-19 on live events in the entertainment industry

16:15The landscape of rescheduling- with the financial hardships falling on venues, and the limited availability for time and days, what will the return to live shows look like.

22:07Live streaming performances, and the digital forefront for engagement and monetization

23:30VEEPS, Benji Madden and Joel Madden

25:10The evolving role of a booking agent, manager, and the impact of smaller venues and artist partnerships

31:40Opening up to a virtual audience and the threat to ticketing companies- the start to hybrid events servicing both in-person, and digital clients.

35:35The four ‘D’s of Copyright Acquisition, and the different ways and opportunities for artists to take advantage of the industry changes

41:18Alternative opportunities like Cameo and looking at the glass as half-full

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Johnny Dwinell - Digital Marketing and the Music Industry

Wed, 19 Aug 2020 21:29:38 GMT

Joining us this week is podcaster, producer, marketer, and all-around music industry wiz, Johnny Dwinell. Johnny started out as a musician, performing in hair metal bands, but he pivoted to focus more on business and marketing side, developing artists through his own company.

Today, he is not only a co-host on The CLIMB podcast, but he also runs Daredevil Production, where he helps artists with their digital marketing. He has worked with multi-platinum artists like Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, and more.

Johnny joins us to discuss the state of the industry, and how the landscape is evolving, on this episode of The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:17Where are you joining us from today?

3:40How have you been managing with Covid-19?

5:20The impact of digital marketing

6:55Who exactly are the artists that you’re working with?

10:39You started off as an artist correct?

12:50Neil Diamond, and getting hooked on music

14:24When was your first band?

16:23Opening for Hericane Alice

18:08Recording the first album

19:18Bud Snyder and The Allman Brothers

23:00Recording and mixing the record, and getting bumped

27:32What ended up happening with the band?

28:50Getting started on the business side

30:20Nashville, Tennessee

33:00Sales, and the power of ‘The List’

37:20When did you decide to get back into music?

41:42What are artists focusing too much on, and not enough on?

44:20Appetite for Destruction, by Guns & Roses

45:30How much do you need to educate your clients today about the power of marketing?

46:23Adjusting to the interruption of the internet

47:17The crystal ball of Hollywood

50:00The attention economy

55:00You need to know that you need the data, and what to do with it

56:30We keep coming back to funding- are there more options or danger in funding options?

60:14“The middle class is arriving in the music industry”

61:20How to help the other 80%

62:30The C.L.I.M.B.

65:55Johnny’s Free informational download

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Brent Baxter - Publishers and looking to the future

Wed, 05 Aug 2020 18:09:44 GMT

Joining us this week is Brent Baxter, a hit songwriter who has worked with artists like Alan Jackson, Lady Antebellum, Randy Travis, and many more. He is also one of the co-hosts of the songwriter podcast The C.L.I.M.B. and is extremely active in the songwriter development sphere through the website Songwriting Pro.

After working a nine-to-five, Brent took the leap and moved to Nashville to pursue his dreams as a songwriter. Brent shares his experiences growing as a songwriter and finding a publisher who wants to invest in your future, not your past, on this episode of The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:20 Where are you these days?

5:02 Do you think the remote writing method has enough benefits to stay as a norm?

7:15 Are you more of a lyricist or a melody creator?

8:09 Growing up as a storyteller, and first putting words to music

11:30Where did you go to school and what did you study?

12:11Getting a degree, but discovering the dream of Nashville

13:55The first song, and starting to make trips to Nashville

15:10A certification for ‘Triple Plywood’

15:47Alltel Communications

17:09When do you realize that it’s time to quit the job and move to Nashville?

18:20A room opens up, and the Nashville journey begins

19:54Blue Water Music

23:10Figuring out balancing working and learning the business, and writing

24:07Is being exclusively a lyricist limiting at all? Is it common?

25:40Erin Enderlin

26:46Creating Monday Morning Church

28:20How did Monday Morning Church make its way to a big placement?

30:31Getting a call at 1:00 AM

33:30Alan Jackson gets the cut, now the wait to see if it makes the record.

35:50How do you leverage a hit like that so it doesn’t become just a fluke?

37:17Jeff Carlton

38:11Don’t burn bridges

40:00Getting connected to Major Bob Music

42:49“I need to know you’re in it for my future”

43:50When did the songwriter coaching component become part of what you do?

48:10Did your job at Blue Water help you with the teaching you do now?

50:35Social credit, and staying current

52:17If there was one piece of advice you could give to songwriters, what would it be?

55:30How do people find you?

56:30Thanks for joining us

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Ben Stennis - Patience and networking

Wed, 22 Jul 2020 20:46:59 GMT

Joining us this week is country songwriter Ben Stennis. Ben has written for numerous artists including Jason Aldean, Justin Moore, Florida Georgia Line, the list goes on.

Ben’s break didn’t happen all at once. It was a series of steps that lead from one accomplishment to the next over ten years that ultimately gave birth to his success. He joins us to discuss the pursuit of his dreams in Nashville and recognizing progress on this episode of The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:30 Where are you talking to us from Ben?

2:05 How have you been managing work with the pandemic?

5:40 Do you think the writing workarounds you have been employing will continue once the necessity

passes?

7:00 Tell us about your background as a stuntman

8:30 Starting a band and going through college

10:28Was music a part of your life before you really started tinkering with instruments?

12:33Getting advice to move to Nashville

14:20At what point did you determine you wanted to pursue songwriting rather than performing?

17:46How was the transition to Nashville?

19:42How were you sustaining yourself while you wrote?

21:33“Move there, never leave.”

22:42How long did success take for you, and what was the turning point?

23:36Getting a placement with Jason Aldean

26:40Getting a publishing deal

32:50High Valley

35:20“Find your dude or girl that you believe in and put some time into them, because your break

may be attached to their break as well.”

35:47Tell us about the little things that happened that kept you going as a songwriter

36:15Getting connected to Matt Lindsey

39:50Is the importance of being in big writing areas still as prevalent with the state of remote writing?

44:55What’s the best way for people to keep up with you?

46:35Do you have anything coming up we should watch out for?

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Zoe Keating - Independence in the industry

Wed, 08 Jul 2020 23:58:48 GMT

Our guest this week is legendary Cellist Zoe Keating. Zoe is an independent artist who found success in fusing musical styles through technology. Her music has been used in television shows, radio shows, and has been used in over 20,000 third party videos. Beyond that, her work has hit #7 on the Billboard Classical charts, and #1 on iTunes classical charts- 4 times.

She is a tremendous advocate for artist and creator rights and speaks at regular engagements about the mechanics of the music industry economy. Zoe joins us to talk about the path that music took her, and the successes and hardships she faced on her journey, in this episode of The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:18Where are you calling us from today?

1:40How have you been managing with the current COVID-19 situation?

3:10Have you been doing any streaming performances?

4:49Take us back to when you first became interested in music in general

7:15Did your parents encourage you into music?

8:50So was it always the Cello for you? Or were there other instruments you enjoyed?

9:16At what point did you determine that music was something you wanted to do?

11:30When you were at Sarah Lawrence did you focus on music? Or was it just liberal arts?

13:05Talk to us about switching from being in an orchestra, to composing your own works

15:34When you started to mix the music yourself, did that start you on the path to your current music?

17:50Why did you move out to the Bay Area? How did you sustain yourself as a musician?

20:20Getting taken advantage of professionally

23:05Was there a momentum generating event for music while you were working in the food industry?

24:35Putting out newspaper ads

25:14Van Gogh’s Daughter

26:40Did your own personal mixing and recording come back into play?

28:30Digital Performer

30:20Were you focusing on licensing as you got more serious into your music?

32:50A lot of the artists we talk to didn’t have one big break, but several small breaks. Would you say that was similar to your experience?

34:30Were there events that led to that evolution of your career that helped it grow and get to that next track?

41:00Having a track broadcast on NPR and getting the iTunes #1

42:30Being the biggest fish of your small pond, and putting yourself out there

44:16You have always been aware and open about your earnings in music- how did that become part of your outlook?

45:50Having control over your work, and being at the mercy of labels and publishers

49:11“I didn’t want to have to use my physical appearance to sell the music.”

52:55Publicly speaking for independent artists

55:30The impact of Spotify

57:55Releasing earnings figures and what that means

61:00Elementary on CBS

63:20Thanks for joining us

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Dr. Chaii- The importance of momentum, and being in the room

Wed, 24 Jun 2020 18:49:04 GMT

Our guest this week is Grammy nominated producer and songwriter Philip Kembo, known as “Dr. Chaii”.

Dr. Chaii has co-produced and co-written for global superstars like Sean Paul, Pitbull, Chris Brown, Camila Cabello, Dua Lipa, and many others. Born and raised in Harare, Zimbabwe, Dr. Chaii found his way just making beats, and utilizing Twitter to foster connections in the industry. As he progressed, he began to see the value in momentum and being in the room as the magic happens.

Dr. Chaii joins us to talk about going across the world to pursue his dreams, on this episode of The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:15 Where are you talking to us from?

2:25 How have you been managing through the quarantine?

4:30 What was your first experience with music?

6:20 Was there a point where you realized your interest in music was greater than most people?

7:02 Grade 5 show & tell

8:50 Fruity Loops

10:42You went to University for marketing, instead of music. What was your plan?

12:59Using Twitter

13:45When did you get a meaningful response from your outreach?

15:35Sermstyle

17:15Sean Paul raps to the beats

20:00At what point were you officially part of the placement with Sean Paul?

23:41Being persistent

25:50APG

28:43Trey Songz 1x1

31:40Do you have any advice for other artists out there about staying involved?

33:58Learning to value your role in the room

35:55Were you always drawn to producing rather than performing?

37:36How has the transition been from producer to performer?

41:08Is it different writing music for yourself rather than for others?

42:50Do you have people helping you as an artist like you were helping artists before?

43:43Looking back, is there anything that stands out as a particularly useful lesson or mistake?

46:20Any current projects you want to share with us?

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Steve Daly- Traction and the small breaks

Wed, 10 Jun 2020 17:43:47 GMT

There is not always a defining moment that screams success. Sometimes, it’s a culmination of small decisions and opportunities that make up that big break, and it’s only when taking a step back that we can truly see it.

Just ask our guest this week, Grammy nominated producer Steve Daly. Steve was part of the production team called the Tracklacers, and has worked with superstars all over the world including Pink, Christina Aguilera, Snoop Dog, Charlie Wilson, and more.

Steve joins us to talk about the small steps and chance encounters that brought him to success, on this episode of The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:12 Where are you currently living?

3:30 Has COVID-19 been affecting you and your work?

5:30 What are some of the less obvious impacts that you have seen?

7:55 Tell us about when you first got into music

10:25Was guitar the first instrument you started playing?

11:48What was the first song you wrote?

13:20How young were you when the songwriting and music making started?

14:14Getting exposed to hip-hop

15:30When did you realize that you wanted to, and could, do music for a living?

17:22Getting sent to the BRIT School

18:20Auditioning for a girl band

19:15Getting a call from Wayne Hector

23:30At this point did you know if you wanted to be a performer or a producer?

24:30Getting connected to Jon Keep and the start of the Tracklacers

26:40Making the first studio

29:25Getting traction, and starting to make money

31:05Was there any moment that really solidified that what you were doing was working?

32:22JLS

35:20How do the connection to P!nk happen?

38:26Publishing, and taking chances with Billy Mann

41:10What was it like when you received the Grammy nomination?

43:16Outreach strategies, and methods for trying to ‘make it’

46:10Is there any noticeable differences in the music business in the US versus the UK?

48:40What are you doing now? What’s next?

51:10Any last thoughts you’d like to share?

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Michale Graves- Keeping Focus

Wed, 27 May 2020 19:41:58 GMT

Our guest this week is Michale Graves, best known for joining the revival of legendary international punk band ‘The Misfits’ as their lead singer.

Michale has had an incredible career in music, with difficult ebbs and flows of good times and bad. The key to his success? Focus, doing the work and keeping your eye on the prize. Join us as Michale tells the story of how he set himself up for success, both in the past and the present, on this episode of The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:30Where are you based these days?

2:14How have things been since COVID-19 with your touring plans?

5:20Tell us about your early days in music, how did you get started?

8:13Picking up a guitar

9:25Getting inspired for the first song

10:35How did that first songwriting experience feel?

11:47Growing up and learning about art and music

13:11When did you start playing music with others?

16:30What was your first ‘real’ band?

17:45Tell us about the lead up to your introduction to The Misfits

21:30Tragedy strikes

22:50Getting pointed at The Misfits

26:30What was the audition like?

31:05Was there a lot of competition for the position?

33:01Halloween, and The Misfits need to make a decision

34:12Teaching Pete Steele The Misfits songs

37:25Riding the wave

39:05Focus

42:06How did you approach writing new songs with them?

45:08Do you prefer songwriting or performing more?

49:50Can you tell us how you have expanded yourself beyond The Misfits?

50:45Why Michale left The Misfits

51:17Geffen and RoadRunner

54:00Fulfillment, and walking away

55:35Returning to New Jersey and working at IHOP

57:08Considering joining the military

60:04A series of misfortunes

63:30Joining the Marine Corps

65:06Did the connections you made rekindle your musical fire?

69:17Leaving the Marines and starting over again

71:25Getting inspired by The Blues and classic Rock and Roll

73:15What are you involved with now?

76:05The big break, and the little breaks

77:53“Constantly putting yourself in a position to learn, so when that next big break comes along-

you’re ready.”

78:40How do people keep up with you?

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Jeffery David- Glass Half-Full

Wed, 13 May 2020 21:11:21 GMT

Our guest this week is lifetime producer, Jeffery David. Jeff has worked in music for the entirety of his life, producing tracks independently, and also as a musical director for his church. He has collaborated with superstars like Zedd, and built his success from the ground up. Most recently, in addition to being a top-tier producer, he also manages the chart topping band Echosmith- who also happens to be his family.

Jeff joins us to discuss his experience in the music industry and how a glass-half-full mentality can make all the difference, on this episode of The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:14Where are you currently?

2:49The Digital World Tour

3:37How did you get started in music?

6:02What was the thing that made you want to pursue music more seriously?

9:45Going to college at Azusa Pacific University

10:45Shopping gigs for bands

12:52What was your plan when you were in school and learning music?

16:30Getting involved with the church as a music director and developing as a producer

26:37At any point during your work at the church did you feel like you wanted more?

27:52“It’s all about casting vision.”

31:45Starting to get producing work from church-goers

32:30Was there one big jump in your producing that took you to the next level?

35:43How did you make the transfer from working with Indie artists to more mainstream work?

36:45The kids get exposed to music

38:07Creating the song Ipod

41.26The birth of Echosmith

43:08So what do you consider your ‘Big Break’ to be?

47:19Hills and Valleys to success

49:00Finding out how to make money in the valleys

54:44A contact at Warner Records, and getting signed

59:40Cool Kids, and creating the hits

62:20“It’s our job to train people on how to see us.”

65:15The value of patience

66:37Any last thoughts?

67:00Lonely Generation

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Slade Echeverria from 'Anarbor' - What does success mean for you?

Wed, 29 Apr 2020 17:00:06 GMT

Success has a different meaning for everyone, and it’s not always easy to define. Our guest this week is Slade Echeverria, one of the founding members, and current manager of the rock band Anarbor. Slade and the band saw success early, getting a Record deal when they were still in their teens, but if you ask Slade, the real success didn’t come until later, much later.

Anarbor has a dedicated fan base, and have had commercial placements on TV programs like Sports Center and Cartoon Network, but is that enough? Slade explains what his marker for success truly was on this episode of The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:30Where are you based right now?

2:08How are you guys managing with the Covid-19 outbreak?

4:55What’s the difference between today and when you first started in music?

6:00How did you first get started in music?

8:00Taking singing lessons

9:55Starting to learn guitar

10:57Starting the first band - ‘Troop 101’

13:17The first show and growing and playing gigs

15:10Hopeless Records

15:45Was there any outreach to representation? Or was the Hopeless Records connection luck?

17:27What were you guys looking for in representation that made you decide to go with Hopeless?

19:35Did things change when you guys signed?

21:40What was the first harsh reality you guys hit?

24:36“We were making money as Anarbor, but we weren’t taking care of the financials.”

27:30Did you guys find a way to break out of the touring cycle?

28:37Finally getting recouped and starting to see money

29:13What about the publishing?

31:17What do you feel the ‘big break’ was for you? Or has it come yet?

34:17Control and being independent

35:22Is it difficult being in Phoenix compared to a music city like Nashville or LA?

37:47Do you have a preference between performing versus songwriting?

38:30Creating Watch Rudy

41:04What’s next for you and Anarbor?

42:58Dealing with tragedy

44:05An upcoming EP, and the future

47:10Scooby Doo

51:20Thanks for joining us

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Carlos Battey 'Jackie's Boy' - Don't take life for granted

Wed, 15 Apr 2020 18:27:03 GMT

Carlos Battey, better known as Jackie’s Boy, lost both of his parents at a young age- a massive life hurdle that can disrupt even the best laid plans. However, Carlos took that loss and channeled it into his music, grinding, writing, and networking on the streets of LA. His hard work paid off, and after signing a deal with Universal and working with superstars of all types, he ultimately earned a Grammy for his work with Madonna.

Carlos joins us today to talk about perseverance, and motivation in the face of the greatest adversity life can throw at us, on this episode of The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:14Where are you living?

2:50You and your brother were discovered as street performers right?

4:25How did you first get into music?

6:35Tell us about your artist name “Jackie’s Boy”

7:40When did music become something you would start pursuing?

8:25Coming to California

9:13When you guys first started, were you getting any paid venue gigs?

11:00Were you guys singing covers or original music?

12:30What was the goal while you guys were grinding in California?

13:12“I wanted to make my parents proud, and it was unfortunate they never got to see the evolution

of what I became, or what I was going to become.”

15:24Was there any point where you thought about quitting?

16:34“After that fifth year, my life changed…”

19:05Getting a meeting with Atlantic Records

20:43A short session opportunity to create for Flo Rida, and the birth of Sugar

22:56How were you guys surviving while the song was growing?

23:52Signing with Universal Music Publishing

25:21How did you determine that UMPG was the right company for you?

28:09The Hustle Mentality

29:04Looking back, is there anything you would do differently? Or a lesson that really clarified things?

31:00Winning a Grammy

34:00Staying grounded in reality

35:18Another life-changing event

37:40Starting the solo singing career

38:10Mad Love

39:14“I needed something that was me, that was my art.”

41:58What are you working on now?

42:12Do it Again featuring Shawn Stockman form Boyz II Men

44:34Any closing thoughts you’d like to share?

44:55Big Circle Music Group

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Cam Meekins - Building your own brand as an Independent Artist

Wed, 01 Apr 2020 16:00:18 GMT

These days, musical artists have tough decisions to make when thinking about their own growth. Like whether to sign a deal, or stay independent. With the growth of online resources, both options can lead to success, but having the choice is critical. Just ask our guest this week Cam Meekins, a hip-hop artist who made the decision to go independent and never looked back.

Cam has had a rollercoaster of a life, and his experiences have been a big driver in his success. Cam sat down with us to talk about his journey through music, the choices he made, and how he grew to be the independent success he is today on this episode of The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:05Growing up in Boston, MA

2:02Siblings and getting into music

3:02What inspired you to make the leap from appreciating music, to creating music?

5:25Understanding your purpose

6:08Realizing success young

8:02The impact of the accident

13:34How you respond to life

14:49“You can do a lot of things if you put the energy towards it, just try.”

16:37What was the tipping point for you when you started releasing music?

17:55Calculated Delusion

19:07Going all-in with music

21:02Connecting to Matty Trump and learning about the industry

23:49Making the mixtape “1993”

27:53Atlantic Records

28:45A student of a different school

31:30Competing at a high level at a Record Label

34:22The decision to leave the label

35:56Learning about business and entrepreneurship

37:30Blending the business and creative

40:20Starting your own label

42:00Building your own team, your core

45:18Tell us a little about your perspective of the music business today

49:00Who do you look to as an inspiration or example for yourself?

50:45“I’m not in the music business, I’m in the Cam Meekins business.”

51:11Is there anything else you want to discuss before we wrap up?

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Felix Snow- Adaptability and Collaboration

Wed, 18 Mar 2020 16:19:14 GMT

Adaptability is a key component in the music industry. The ability to work with different musicians, styles, and artists of all types is important to ongoing success and growth. There are fewer better examples of adaptable musicians than our guest this week, Felix Snow.

A lifelong musician, Felix has worked with artists like Christina Aguilera, Selena Gomez, Lil Uzi Vert, Gallant, and ton’s more. He is even one of the creators of the chart topping song “Gold” by Kiiara, but it doesn’t stop there. Today Felix is part of the Country Pop-duo 17 Memphis, continuing to showcase his incredible musicianship. Felix joins us to talk about how he approaches music on our new season of The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:33 Born in Stamford, Connecticut

1:45 Bob Leinbach

3:26 How do you recall getting into music?

4:16 When did you start creating music?

6:30 The first official band “6th Gear”

7:47 Going to NYU

8:26 “Music doesn’t feel like a choice to me, it’s just what I do.”

10:30What did you do once you graduated from college?

12:19Learning Ableton from Arca

13:20Did you have an initial goal?

14:25Getting in touch with Katie Donovan from Warner/Chappell

16:49What was your first cut?

17:32What was the next step after Warner/Chappell?

21:07“Momma” and David Singer-Vine, and making “Gold” by Kiiara

23:00Effess Records

24:1517 Memphis

25:55Does your production-heavy background help with your current musical work?

28:07“You have to be fearless, you have to be a risk taker.”

29:45The move from Los Angeles to Nashville

32:12What’s next for 17 Memphis?

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Bobby Messano

Thu, 26 Dec 2019 18:00:00 GMT

It’s not often that the world sees a living legend, someone who’s work changes the landscape of their field before their very eyes, but that’s exactly what we have in Bobby Messano.

Bobby has been in the music industry for over 40 years as a guitarist. He has seen some of the biggest bands rise to stardom, and even knew some of the artists while they were just kids. His influence can be seen all over the world in bands like Metallica, Poison, Eric Clapton, and tons more.

Bobby joins us for a special in-person interview to talk about his experience in music, and how he has manages to stay not only relevant, but influential all these years. We hope you enjoy hearing Bobby’s story on this episode of the Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:36Welcome Bobby

2:40A quick synopsis on Bobby Messano

4:08Starting in Rock, and shifting to the Blues

5:05David Hasselhoff and other early works

6:56Bobby’s “Big Break” meeting Les Paul and getting connected with Sire Records

8:18When did you first get interested in music?

9:45The influence of The Beatles

10:45When did you first think you could make money from music?

12:45Working at the post office, and making the decision to pursue music

14:12Shopping for bands, and finding Stanky Brown

15:24Sending demos, and getting in touch with Swan Song Records

18:14Starting to tour, and opening for Kansas

20:13“When you’re in the situation, if you’re gearing yourself to become a pro, you have to be one of

them, a peer.”

21:53Meeting Eric Clapton

24:36How did things develop after you started touring?

26:14Can you explain the session versus touring environments?

28:22Which did you prefer? Touring or Sessions?

29:42When did you realize that making music for other people wasn’t enough for you?

30:20Joining Stars, and touring with major bands like Rush and Ted Nugent

32:47Learning about the flow of money in the music industry

34:19The influence that Stars had on bands like Metallica, Bon Jovi, Poison, and more.

36:03When did your solo work start?

38:05Writing for others, versus writing for yourself.

41:43Sustaining yourself as a musician

43:35ASCAP and BMI, and learning to pay attention to royalties

45:49What are the things that an artist can do themselves compared to what a label offers?

47:45Music pirating

50:00How do you feel about streaming?

50:50XM Radio

55:00What got you to Fort Collins, Colorado?

58:10“You’re never a hero in your home town.”

59:57“Do not undercut yourself.”

61:07What’s next for you?

62:45Longevity

65:16The power of a song

68:57“When you’re writing songs, think about who’s listening”

70:10The songs in the little plastic boxes

75:40“Do not stop being writers.”

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Jake Broido

Tue, 17 Dec 2019 21:30:04 GMT

Jake Broido has really lived a life of music. From his highschool days he was interning with major producers, seeing superstars like Adele, and Katy Perry in action in the studio. He continued to write and produce his own music as he went through college, even opening for Kendrick Lamar among others.

On top of that, Jake also worked as an A&R for Atlantic Records, and has helped dozens of artists create and pursue their musical dreams, which inspired him to continue pursuing his own.

Jake joins us today to talk about how he built his foundation for success in music and the steps that helped him follow the life he wants to live, on this episode of the Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:31Interning with producer Greg Wells

4:38Meeting Adele and hearing the creation of One and Only

7:12So what did those internship experiences do for you during your growth as a musician?

9:30Enjoy it

10:30Did you pick up any lessons or tips during those internship days that you still use today?

12:20What was the next step after the internship?

12:47Studying Philosophy, and getting a degree

13:45Opening for Kendrick Lamar and starting to produce

14:31How did you get the opportunities to open for these artists in college?

15:56Getting an offer from Atlantic Records

16:15What were some outlets in college that you used to get the opportunities you got?

18:17Being proactive and entrepreneurial about your music

19:40The impact of social media in music today

21:23Warner, and getting connected with Katy Tiz

22:53Becoming an A&R

24:25Bruce Tyler

27:45Working with Mike Caren

29:28Working in Atlantic Studios in Hollywood

32:31Starting to write again

33:21Paul Salva

35:56Getting back into writing music, making beats, and performing

38:24In your experience, was it more lucrative to release your own music? Or to produce others?

39:57Logan Paul and Quin NFN and different sources of revenue

42:58The foundations for success in the music industry

46:15“There is a spirituality to all of it”

48:17“Living a music life is the reward.”

49:05Closing thoughts

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Bianca Atterberry "Blush"

Tue, 10 Dec 2019 18:00:29 GMT

The major labels in the music industry are responsible for a lot of the biggest hits we all listen to, but they aren’t the only avenue for success. Just ask our guest this week, Bianca Atterberry, better known by her artist name “Blush.”

Bianca was signed with a major, and has worked with tons of superstars including Meghan Trainor, Macy Gray, Chris Brown, and more. But when she felt she wasn’t getting the help she needed, she shifted gears and signed as a writer with Disney, who’s music division is a bit more boutique than the larger publishers. She’s never looked back.

Bianca joins us to talk about her experience navigating contracts, sessions, and how ultimately how she found the opportunity to do what she wants to do, on this episode of The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:30Growing up in Pittsburgh

2:40Starting to work with Pierre Medor

3:39Moving to Atlanta, and figuring out how the industry works

4:50“There’s no real strategy to it, it’s listening to your heart”

5:22Being an introvert in the music industry

6:07As you were figuring things out, what did your work look like when you were first starting in

Atlanta?

7:26What do you think Pierre saw in you?

8:10How did things shift for you after you started getting placements?

8:40Moving to LA and getting deals

9:28“It’s all about your hustle and your work ethic and your relationships.”

11:42When you moved to LA, did you start experimenting with different genres?

12:38Friends by Meghan Trainor

12:44Leaving Sony and signing with Disney

14:21What other areas of music are you trying to explore?

15:33“A huge star could put out a song that nobody likes, and a nobody from nowhere could put out a

song that touches the world.”

19:07A lot of songwriters have a goal of getting signed with a major, can you tell us about your

thought process for choosing who to sign with?

22:33Managing your expectations with publishers and labels

23:06Viewing your publisher more as a bank

25:32What are some other things that you picked up along the way as you worked in the industry

26:58Deciding between money and reputation

28:50“It’s okay to charge people”

30:20Now that you’ve moved more into the pop scene, has your day-to-day changed?

31:36Do you think it’s just time and experience that lead to getting the calls you want to get?

34:24What are you working on for the upcoming year?

35:39Do you find yourself working more when you’re really interested in projects?

36:24Reputation

38:17“The Music Industry is a highschool cafeteria”

38:45Is there anything else you want to add for other writers out there?

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Dario Forzato

Tue, 03 Dec 2019 20:55:15 GMT

If there is one thing that’s for certain, it’s that there are lots of ways to see success working in the Music Industry. Just ask our guest this week, Dario Forzato, a guitarist from Italy who came to the United States to pursue his dreams in music.

Starting from scratch in a new country, Dario hit all the music touch points: touring with a band, getting sync placements, working as a cowriter, but after getting a big placement in a video game he found his groove making production music.

Beyond video games, Dario has had placements in award winning TV shows, documentaries, in stadiums, and more. He joins us to talk about his journey and his method for musical success, on this episode of The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:30Growing up in Milan and learning guitar

3:12Rock music

4:15What was the music culture and taste in Italy like?

6:11“I don’t care about what genre it is, if it’s good it’s good.”

6:50Film and TV and the attraction of film scores

8:06Starting to perform and tour professionally, and moving to Los Angeles

9:00Was it a difficult decision to move to the United States?

9:50Working with the RapScallions

10:38Composing and programming, and making the transition to full time producing

11:27“I came here with two bags, one with clothes and one with my pedal board and guitar.”

13:33What kind of tactics were you using to network when you came to the US?

14:20Licensing to video games like Rocksmith by Ubisoft

15:22Studying the business of producing

17:27What was your understanding of the music industry infrastructure like when you first started?

19:34Music in visual media

21:16Learning about Publishing and Copyrights and how the business works

25:51What’s your creative process for when you’re creating and where you ultimately want your

placements?

29:06“Whenever you write for a TV show or Documentary, it’s a collaborative process.”

31:41Versatility

34:00“At some point you’re going to be known for something.”

37:20What was the first placement that you got that really told you things were working?

40:00Being a musician versus becoming a professional

42:26What were some things you would have done differently looking back?

43:55How to be persistent

46:11What does your typical day look like now that you’re more established?

49:05Embracing the business along with the music

50:30What do you have coming up?

53:40Across All States

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Chris Jackson

Tue, 26 Nov 2019 21:16:17 GMT

Chris Jackson is best known for his work with R&B legends like Cheryl Cole, Tank and Toni Braxton.

He’s a believer in chemistry in the songwriting process - the idea that two people writing together can come up with something greater than themselves, and it shows in the success he’s had as a songwriter and producer.

Chris calls himself an introvert by nature, but get him in the studio and his goal is to have fun, and make great music. This mentality has landing co-writing credits in many different genres of music and has helped launched an artist project of his own.

Chris joins us today on this episode of the big break.

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Show Notes

1:32Growing up in White Plains New York

2:37Taking piano lessons and learning the technical side of music

4:35Learning to produce in college

5:45Getting signed and starting to get placements

6:20The decision to drop out of college

7:58Chuck Harmony

9:15Craig Kallman wants to buy the record for Atlantic Records

11:30Dealing with frustrations

13:20Learning to have faith in yourself and gain confidence

15:42How were you getting by in the days when you were still coming up?

16:56Getting a placement with Cheryl Cole and traveling for sessions

19:00Would you bring your emotion into your art?

20:42Were you familiar with how the industry worked when you started pursuing music full time?

22:30What kind of music were you doing? Were you working in different genres?

23:38Learning to work in other genres through cowriting, and learning Pop music

27:03So what was next for your career?

27:48Working with Jacob Latimore and Karina Pasian

29:15Starting to write songs for Ron Isley

30:39Coincidentally having the opportunity to show Ron the tracks they made for him

31:56This Song Is For You by Ron Isley

33:40Did you find a group of writers or producers that you worked with frequently?

37:23“There are times when the vibe is just not there, and sometimes you push through it, and

sometimes nothing happens. And that’s okay.”

38:00What have you been working on recently?

40:00Moving to LA and working with Che’ Nelle and Sean Hamilton to create “Metamorphosis”

42:39Starting to work on independent projects

44:27Going on tour with Pusha T

44:55Working with newer artists

46:02Staying busy and keeping the catalog growing

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Stealing Oceans

Tue, 19 Nov 2019 21:49:32 GMT

Brian Thompson was constantly creating music his younger years, practicing rapping in dorm rooms and on school campuses. When he found his life going down the wrong path, his response was always to focus on music.

Brian is better known by his artist name Stealing Oceans. He is an alternative hip-hop artist and a prime example of how to organically grow a following. Brian was once signed to a major label, but the control and freedom he needed for his career could only be found by going independent.

Brian joins us this week to talk about what how he’s grown a fanbase as an independent artist and why he decided to take the leap on this episode of The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:32Growing up in Andover, MA.

3:40Late night rapping in boarding school

4:40Putting together a boarding school music tour with Dylan McDonald

6:19The first album titled “Graduation”

7:11Going to school in Colorado

8:38Getting an offer to go to Denver to do music, but at a cost

10:32Having a wake-up call and recentering around music

12:50Traveling in Sweden

14:11What inspired your move to Nashville?

16:30Did moving to Nashville really help with your understanding of how the Music Industry works?

17:01Connecting with Trey Bruce

18:15Getting a random email from Starstruck Entertainment

20:15Getting signed to Starstruck’s artist development

20:49Did you feel like you were bugging Starstruck when you were emailing them every week?

22:15“Someone is going to get lucky and make the choice to pick you up”

24:41What was that moment like when you got that call from Starstruck about getting signed?

25:46So you got signed after 3 years in Nashville, how were you sustaining yourself before signing?

28:00Did you ever have doubts while you were in Nashville?

29:35So once you got signed, how did life change?

31:48Parting ways with Starstruck

33:12Making the decision to move to Los Angeles

35:17As an independent artist, what are your main ways for generating opportunities?

39:27“Ego is your worst enemy”

41:23What are some of the ways that work best for you for networking?

43:50“You can’t compare yourself to other artists”

47:00So what do you have planned for the future and what’s next?

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James 'Keyz' Foye

Tue, 12 Nov 2019 19:27:40 GMT

James Foye, better known as Keyz, is part of the Grammy winning production duo The Upperclassmen. In the early years of high school James was making beats and immersing himself in music. His talent did not go unnoticed either- receiving a Grammy Nomination before graduating from college.

How did James get traction so early on in his career? Being talented definitely helps, but if you ask him, it’s all about networking. Meeting people and building connections are critical parts to the music industry, and as James network grew, so did his success. Culminating in a Grammy win last year for his work on the Cardi B album Invasion of Privacy.

We sat down with James to talk about his journey and get some advice, on this episode of the Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:30Growing up in Buffalo, NY

2:41So you were interested in music even in highschool?

4:04What were you learning while you were in college studying music?

6:30Learning from the first placements

7:01Let’s Talk by Omarion, My Man by Meek Mill

7:49Wickedest Style by Sean Paul and getting a Grammy Nomination

8:07Networking

9:19Did you have a collection of tracks already logged that you would show people?

10:45After graduating

12:47How did you network?

15:29What happened after the Grammy nomination?

16:22Working, moving, and traveling

17:33Bickenhead by Cardi B and winning a Grammy

18:50After your successes did you get affiliated with a Publisher or Label?

22:15Are you guys actively looking for writers to sign for UCMG?

23:38What’s it like shifting your work to from creative to managing people?

26:32What’s your relationship like with Ayo?

29:25Was there ever a time where you doubted pursuing music as a career?

34:20Trusting the process

35:49“I have such a passion for music, that even if I wasn’t getting paid I’d still be doing it.”

36:46Do you discuss the business and how it works with writers and producers you bring on?

38:58What’s coming up for you guys in the next few years?

41:15“Don’t get so caught up in being successful that you miss out on life.”

42:10What does that moment of success look like to you?

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Ashanti Floyd - The Mad Violinist

Tue, 05 Nov 2019 20:55:48 GMT

Crossing over styles and merging sounds has always been a big part of the evolution of music, and few musicians have had the same impact as Ashanti Floyd, better known as the Mad Violinist.

Ashanti was born into music. Both his mother and father were accomplished musicians, and they ingrained in him a love for the violin. But it was his experimentation with other genres that set him apart as a musician. His creativity and skill netted him a full scholarship to the Berklee School of Music.

Today, Ashanti is one of the top string arrangers in the music industry, and has worked with major artists in all genres from Rap and Hip Hop, to Pop and more. He has been nominated for six Grammy’s and continues to help artists grow in the music industry.

Today we welcome The Mad Violinist, on this episode of The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:34The first time playing the violin, and growing up in a musical family

4:15What did “taking violin seriously” mean for you?

5:23What were these violin camps like compared to Tallahassee?

8:01What kind of music were you playing?

9:15How did you develop your skills after High School?

10:14Auditioning for Berklee College of Music

12:25Were there a lot of Jazz string players like you?

14:08Did you ever feel pressured to stay more traditional with your practice instead of experimenting?

15:57Discovering the reach of music

16:44What was your experience like at Berklee?

18:15Leaving Berklee, playing in clubs, and the birth of “The Mad Violinist”

18:55Working with childhood friend T-Pain

20:30Was it a hard decision to leave Berklee?

21:20Learning from signing a bad contract

23:00Moving back to Tallahassee and starting to make beats

27:10Ashanti’s popularity starts to get crazy

28:53“Not everyone’s your friend”

29:31The J.U.S.T.I.C.E. League and “Buss Yo’ Head” by Young Buck

30:51Accidentally moving to Atlanta

33:33Meeting Malay and working with John Legend and Yelawolf

35:38Was it unusual being in the studio with an actual violin with the artists you were working with?

37:33When you’re in the studio, are you in there with a specific idea? Or are you just seeing what

works with the record?

41:06Do you think your reputation precedes you now?

42:28Would you say your work with Malay and Yelawolf was the turning point for you?

43:10Starting the Youtube Channel

44:45Right Above It by Lil Wayne and Drake and The Show Goes On by Lupe Fiasco

46:48What was it like getting the Grammy nominations?

48:00What did your parents have to say about the Grammys?

49:06What have you been working on recently?

50:50Respecting each other and being comfortable in the studio

52:15Helping other musicians

54:27Closing thoughts from Ashanti

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Fly By Midnight

Tue, 29 Oct 2019 17:59:07 GMT

Justin Breit and Justin Slaven, known as Bryte and Slavo, make up the pop duo Fly By Midnight.

The pair first met at a songwriting session in New York, and instantly connected. After a few sessions working together, they decided to join forces.

They built a fan base by covering popular songs on their youtube channel, generating over a quarter million subscribers. The duo rolled out some original music and found a niche putting on energetic and engaging lives shows for their fans. They’ve built a worldwide audience for their music, which is all the more impressive seeing as they don’t have a record label to back them. That means the pair is mixing music, business and creativity every day, and doing it well.

Bryte and Slavo join us this week to talk about being independent artists, and the business of Fly By Midnight, on this episode of The Big Break

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Fly By Midnight’s New Single “Love Me Like A Friend”

Show Notes

1:32Meeting Justin and Slavo

2:00Justin’s side of the Fly By Midnight origin story

2:53Slavo’s side of the Fly By Midnight origin story

4:30When you were growing up did you think of music as a potential career?

7:08Starting Fly By Midnight through Youtube

8:26Justin and Slavo meet for the first time

10:50You mentioned earlier “not turning people down,” do you guys still follow that mentality?

12:20Evolving from a Youtube project to a live, performing band

15:00How do you guys approach music when you are creating?

17:01What are your respective roles within the duo?

18:51What do you guys do to get your music out there?

21:00The importance of timing

22:22How do you guys connect with artists to collaborate?

25:43After your you big tour, how did you guys approach using the money you made?

28:02Managers and the value they add

29:40Fly By Midnight’s new single “Love Me Like a Friend”

30:56Starting to release internationally

32:10Blowing up in China

34:36How do you guys view timing and making sure you release at the right time?

35:40Meeting with the head of Pop at Apple Music

39:24How did you guys land on Pop music as your genre?

41:15So what’s next after this album?

41:32Playing in NY and LA with Loote

41:51Do you guys create new music while touring?

43:54If you could go back to the beginning, what would you guys do differently?

45:05“Everything is attainable.”

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Eddie Grey

Tue, 22 Oct 2019 19:01:23 GMT

Some musicians have made their career being a specialist. Being the go-to for one part of the process.

But, the music industry is shifting to require each music creator to wear more hats, and our guest this week does just that.

Eddie Grey is a music composer and self-proclaimed jack-of-all-trades. He’s put his name on every type of music, from hip-hop, to electronic and even a Flamenco song. He’s composed music for national and international television shows, and is currently the Head Composer for Kim Kardashian’s upcoming documentary.

He’s our guest this week on The Big Break, Eddie Grey.

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Show Notes

1:30Eddie Grey, growing up in Los Angeles

3:10Discovering his need for music

5:32What was that realization that you needed music like?

8:59When you would go and analyze music, what would you do exactly?

10:28So how did you make the shift from singer/songwriter and band member to producer?

12:42If you have a desire inside you that you want to move forward with- do it...

14:12After the residency at Witzend ended, did you feel lost?

16:36A sudden deposit reopens the world of music

19:21Did you know before then that getting music placements was a viable option?

21:53What did your work look like after you received that deposit?

26:13Staying happy and making the adjustments to make sure you are happy

27:35What did you say to people you were reaching out to when pitching your music?

30:45“When you start to claim your position, people start to believe you.”

33:10What was that first placement where you thought “this is really working”

34:01A lot of people we talk to are specialists, how do you manage being a “jack of all trades”

37:14How is the landscape changing for you with the growth of streaming and new media?

40:22How do you generate ideas when you’re in a time crunch?

41:20Captain Chords and Arcade by Output

44:20Mugglin Works

44:54How do you network and meet people?

46:07Being genuine, and caring about people

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Kuk Harrell

Tue, 15 Oct 2019 18:19:23 GMT

If you’ve heard a pop song in the last two decades, odds are you’ve been witness to the work of our guest this week.

Kuk Harrell is the vocal producer in the music business. He’s won 5 Grammy awards, and has worked with nearly every superstar making music today. Including Rihanna, Beyonce, Shakira, Justin Bieber, and Jennifer Lopez, just to name a few.

We got the chance to sit down with Kuk to learn how he became the go-to vocal producer in the music industry. His journey took him all over the country, through several different industries.

Kuk joins us to tell his story, on this episode of The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:33Growing up in Chicago, Illinois

2:50Learning guitar and drums, and being honest with yourself

3:40Charles Stepney

4:42What kind of music did you listen to growing up?

6:26What happened after you made the decision to go into music production?

6:50How McDonalds helped enhance Kuk’s understanding of the Music Industry

8:51Making jingles at Joy Art Music in Chicago

10:42Moving to LA

11:47Taking a break from the music scene to explore the spiritual

14:23Joining up with Tricky Stewart and pursuing the secular side of music again

16:14Tricky move to Atlanta and gets involved with the music scene there

17:30Learning about the different Vocal Production players

18:30Umbrella for Rihanna

19:40“There’s a difference between a demo, and a record.”

20:00How familiar were you with the equipment when you came back to the music scene?

20:50The story of how “Umbrella” came to be

23:35Doing what you do, because you love doing what you do.

26:20Learning to let projects go if they don’t feel right

28:18With Umbrella made, what was the next step to get it out?

29:30Flying to LA and cutting the record for Rihanna

29:55How did your day change after the record blew up?

31:30Do you get a sense of pride knowing that you had such a personal touch to such an iconic

record?

33:40So how did your professional life change?

35:20The power of word-of-mouth

36:30“Don’t be a jack-of-all-trades, become an expert”

37:00How do you recommend people go about learning what to specialize in?

40:05What do you think artists today should focus on?

42:38Has your approach to vocal producing changed over the years?

45:03Letting the artist be who the artist is

47:25What are some of your techniques when you are struggling to get things flowing?

48:05Disconnecting from the mindset of “I gotta make money.”

49:10Do you have any advice for your younger self?

52:10Core Ent Management, and how Kuk is helping to cultivate the future of music.

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Mario Lalli

Tue, 08 Oct 2019 18:56:30 GMT

Desert Rock is a sub-genre of rock known for it’s free-form, and trance-like grooves made popular by notable bands such as Queens of the Stoneage, and Kyuss.

How do sub-genre’s get created? What inspires a style? We’ll learn in a minute because our guest this week is Mario Lalli, one of the founders of this popular genre of alternative rock. He joins us to talk about how Desert Rock came to be. A melding of Classic Rock and the skater punk lifestyle of the Southern California Desert, Mario explains how the simple love of the music, and passion built the genre, on this episode of The Big Break.

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Mario's two bands:

Yawning Man

Fatso Jetson

Show Notes

1:32Living in Denver Colorado

2:55 Getting inspired by Classic Rock

3:50 Skateboarding, and discovering Punk Rock

6:00 Expression, sharing, and the rewarding aspects of music

8:13 Adopting the skateboarding skills for the music style

10:10Getting the band to move to Los Angeles

11:15Connecting with SST Records

12:30Different priorities in the art of music

14:25Getting traction as a musician

16:16Owning Nightclubs and providing a platform for creativity

19:32Balancing the creative and the business decisions to have them flow together

21:55How did you find that balance between the music and the commerce without conforming?

22:40The ripple effect that inspired other artists

24:18Kyuss, Queens of the Stoneage, and sharing experiences and connections

25:53“This is a huge pivotal moment, and a point that people need to understand, that this is what

you would call a break.”

26:50How history and influence created growth

28:24The Desert Sessions

33:45Do you feel pride for being one of the founders of this genre?

35:00Difficult decisions for the sake of music

39:59Pappy & Harriets

41:35Putting energy into creative pursuits, and making things happen

46:45Always stay involved and stay engaged with your art

50:50A story about chasing your passion

54:06Closing thoughts from Mario

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Brandyn Burnette - Eman8

Tue, 01 Oct 2019 17:30:10 GMT

The boom and bust of the music industry creates some incredible life lessons. One month you’re on top of the world, the next you’re scrounging for any kind of placement.

This is especially true for our guest this week, Brandyn Burnette.

Brandyn got his first publishing deal at just 19 years old. He traveled all over the world writing and recording with different artists, learning how to collaborate, producing some amazing music. Then things began to turn.

After some internal politics at his label, he was dropped with little music to his name. After some time to adjust, Brandyn pivoted to become independent artist, taking control of his career, and giving birth to EMAN8. Brandyn joins us to tell his story, and the valuable lessons he learned on this episode of The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:33Growing up and moving all over

4:14Starting writing music in St. Louis

5:50Getting a scholarship to NYU

7:01Did you have a goal for your songs when you first started?

8:27Leaving NYU and starting to record

9:07Getting a publishing deal and getting signed to Warner

10:01Moving to LA and starting to collaborate with other artists

12:38Who was the producer you met in New York that got you started?

13:45Getting news in Ballet class about how his mix turned out

14:50Evolving from a raw musician to a complex sound

15:58What was it like going to Norway and recording?

18:11Bombing the Warner Brothers meeting

19:39Getting the call about signing to Sony

23:35How big of a deal was getting the Sony advance?

24:10Learning the importance of money

26:27Time is money, and learning to value your time and not waste it

30:47What was that like going from a signed artist to an independent artist?

33:00Learning that the label is not prioritizing him, losing traction, and deciding what to do

33:56Thanks for Nothing and working with Mike Caren and Sean Douglas

35:09Making a hook for Cutfather

37:25Brandyn’s song outplays the song he wrote “First Flight Home”

38:30Getting dropped from Warner

39:40Bouncing back and pursuing independence

40:55What was your plan immediately after getting dropped?

42:09Struggling and resetting

43:451000 Degrees of Separation and making music unconventionally

44:50Learning about streaming playlists and pursuing curators

49:05Do you still see yourself as the “CEO” of yourself as an artist?

50:30Focus on the creative, but appreciate the value of your team.

52:39Helping the “next you”

54:03What other projects do you have in the works right now?

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Schmarx and Savvy

Tue, 24 Sep 2019 16:30:08 GMT

Marc Schneider and Savannah Giersch are the songwriting and producing duo Schmarx and Savvy. After being introduced by a mutual friend, the two began to write music together while living on opposite ends of the country. Some months later the pair reconnected in Nashville and became Schmarx and Savvy.

After getting signed at Round Hill music publishing they started to grow and refine their skills. After some grinding, the duo started getting placements with major artists like 3lau, Zeds Dead, Jordin Sparks, and more.

Today we welcome Marc and Savannah to the podcast to discuss hard work, and embracing your individuality, on this episode of The Big Break.

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“Somebody Real”

Show Notes

1:54Where are you guys from?

2:11When did you decide you wanted to make music your profession?

2:50Fullsail University and Berkeley College

4:27How did you guys meet?

6:00Savannah moves to Nashville

8:55Birthdays

9:45What were you both doing aside from making music while in Nashville?

12:05What was the plan while you both were working and making music?

13:25Finding a publisher for the songwriting duo

14:34Did you run into difficulties being focused on Pop?

15:55Can you describe what meetings with publishers were like?

20:02If you could go back and give yourselves advice before your first publishing meeting, what would

it be?

22:27During the years of grinding, how did you get better at your craft?

25:08The importance of co-writing and learning from other people

26:10Did you know right away that Round Hill was the right publisher?

29:25How was the experience different with Round Hill compared to other major publishers?

33:21Moving to Los Angeles

35:40Did you have a network in LA when you moved? Or did you have to start from scratch?

37:00What was the first song you had released with Round Hill?

37:46Drive Slow by Carly Paige and Touch by 3lau

38:50How did the releases for those songs happen?

42:50Did anything change for you guys after these songs were released?

45:20How did you guys get connected with Angry Mob Music?

48:10What were you guys looking for in a deal after Round Hill?

50:22How did your Round Hill contact become your manager?

52:22What advice would you give to a songwriter in LA who is considering getting a manager?

55:15What is your vision for where you guys are headed?

58:11Somebody Real and releasing your own music

61:19Do you have any tips for people navigating the politics of getting a song on an album?

64:17What is the kindest thing that someone has done for you guys so far in your career?

66:25Meeting and connecting with Brett James

69:46Lessons and Takeaways

71:14Parting words and advice

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Mr. Robotic

Tue, 17 Sep 2019 18:03:24 GMT

Marcas Harris treats his music career like a business.

Music for marcas started as battle-rapping in the lunchroom in high school. After gaining recognition in the battle-rap scene under the name “Bullet”, Marcas began to book shows around his hometown of Chicago. When his performances began to generate some money, and he decided to take his music to the next level.

He rebranded his unique sound and style under the name Mr. Robotic, and began building the foundation for a business. Today, Mr. Robotic has had hundreds of sync placements in popular shows like The Jersey Shore, Black Lightning, I Feel Bad, and more.

We sit down with Mr. Robotic today to hear about his growth from battle-rapper, to producer and entrepreneur on this episode of The Big Break

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Show Notes

1:33Growing Up in Chicago and getting into music

3:15Chicago Writing Sessions

4:20Performing on the Sunkist truck

5:05Changing schools and practicing rap battling, and thinking about college

6:20Columbia College in Chicago

8:30Winning studio time in a rap battle

9:45“If you do not have any money to do music, don’t do it.”

10:57Funding the business of your music career

12:15Making club songs and using Myspace

13:30Starting to get booked and making money for performing

16:00Starting to see the industry landscape change

18:05Getting a publicist

19:09After college

20:34Getting his first sync placement

21:30Branding Mr. Robotic

24:05Watch the Club Go

27:11Getting connected to pluggers and figuring out splits

29:23Were you surprised at the response from your sync placements?

33:18How did you make yourself findable?

35:06Using sync placements to get discovered

37:40How has streaming from your perspective changed the game?

39:26“How do I make my music make money, so I can continue making music?”

41:18How do people respond when you tell them music is more about sales?

45:56Thinking about your songs as the product

47:34Learning from the billboards, and learning why songs become hits

50:14Having more than one product to sell and multiple streams of income

52:17“Focus on building the foundation of the business”

53:30What are your goals looking like for the coming years?

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Beat Billionaire

Tue, 10 Sep 2019 17:31:06 GMT

Shamann Cooke grew up in Richmond, Virginia. As an escape from the drugs and violence in his neighborhood, he began rapping, and cultivating himself as an artist. When he got recognized at a rap battle in New York, Shamann was connected to industry superstars like T.I., Young Dro, Rick Ross, and more.

Today, Shamann goes by Beat Billionaire. He produces many of the hits you hear coming out of Maybach Music Group, including “Purple Lamborghini” by Rick Ross, which was the featured song in the blockbuster film “Suicide Squad” and got him a Grammy nomination.

Beat Billionaire joins us to talk about how he went from selling drugs in his hometown, to a premiere producer with Roc Nation, on this episode of The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:33Growing up in Virginia

3:40What kind of music did you grow up listening to?

4:23Being inspired seeing Virginia on the map

6:00Rapping, and getting discovered by Parish Smith

7:57Did you travel to New York often?

9:09Moving to Atlanta, and linking up with T.I.

10:27How were you sustaining yourself while you were producing in Atlanta?

11:45Takeoff with Young Dro

12:40Getting introduced to Rick Ross

14:23Loyalty, and honoring the people you’re with

15:20At this point are you familiar with the structure of the music industry?

16:47Getting signed at Maybach Music Group

17:24The story of Bag of Money

18:47What did it feel like getting a #1 hit?

20:45What’s the story behind the ‘Beat Billionaire’ name

23:25Do you ever think you would go back to rapping?

24:06Blue Cheese

24:30If you could pick out one moment as your ‘big break’ what would it be?

25:45Making Purple Lamborghini

26:45Do you think working so closely with a small group makes your work better?

28:03What was it like working with Skrillex, from a totally different genre?

29:30Roc Nation

30:50How was the transition going from a producer to a ‘boss’

32:00If you could go back, would you have done anything differently?

33:45Did you feel pressured to make music? Or was it something you just naturally always did?

34:40What is your biggest motivation?

35:03Do you have any new stuff with MMB coming out in the next couple years?

36:45Do you use the internet at all to market yourself?

38:22Do you think a lot of your success is from being in the right place at the right time?

39:14With the popularity of streaming, do you see music changing to fit this new format?

42:00Do you have any other thoughts to share?

44:02Giving back to your home town

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Ben Tankard

Tue, 03 Sep 2019 17:00:00 GMT

Things don’t always go according to plan, and that rings especially true for our guest this week, Ben Tankard.

Ben had just joined the NBA when an injury ended his basketball career before it even had a chance to start. After a few years of working as a dog catcher, Ben started taking his lunch breaks playing piano in a music store. After the shopkeeper asked him to ditch the dog-catching uniform and demo pianos for his customers, he realized music was more than something to pass the lunch break.

Today, Ben is a highly regarded Gospel-Jazz musician, a preacher, and even has his own reality show. He joins us to tell the story of how he went from a local dog-catcher, to the musical pioneer he is today.

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Show Notes

1:41 Growing up

2:53 Playing sports and music in high school

3:45 Getting a basketball scholarship and going to the NBA

5:30 Starting to take Christianity seriously

6:45 Playing piano for the first time

8:16 Making ends meet, as a dog-catcher

10:30Playing piano at a music store

12:19Joel Osteen shares the Ben Tankard Story

14:00Keyboard demonstrator for Main Street Music

15:45Developing a home studio, and starting to make money from music

16:19All Keyed Up

16:33Tribute Records

18:39Were you musically literate before you got to really pursue piano?

19:54Would you say there was a definitive moment when you realized your success?

20:20Discovering Yolanda Adams

24:45Being a ‘back-burner’ musician

25:53Being his own manager

28:12Do you prefer to be behind the scenes more?

28:45The start of the reality show

30:55How did you bridge the gap between Gospel and Jazz for people?

32:40Getting commercial radio plays with instrumentals

34:14Do you think your life would be different if you didn’t get hurt playing basketball?

35:40How basketball came back into Ben’s world

38:45How much has hard work played into your success?

41:00Did you have any mentors when you first started playing music?

42:26Do you ever feel like your success is surreal?

43:27The power your network plays in your world

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Daniel Capellaro

Tue, 27 Aug 2019 18:10:33 GMT

You know the feeling when everything seems to be falling into place? Things just seem to work out in a way that seems too good to be true?

That’s exactly what it was like for our guest this week, Daniel Capellaro. See, after he learned guitar and started singing, a chance encounter with a record producer in New York got him in the door with major studios all over the country. And, this was when he was just 19 years old.

But, and there’s always a but, Daniel faced a difficult decision. One that ultimately stopped him right in his tracks and putting him back at square one.

It was a tough break, but it came with many lessons, and Daniels perseverance and talent allowed him to reset and flourish as a lyricist and music producer. Today he has songs with superstars like Chris Brown and Pitbull.

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Check out Daniel’s recent solo project “DVNIEL”

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Show Notes

1:57When did you start to get the sense that you wanted to make music a career?

4:21From starting to learn guitar and bouncing around the country, what was the next big step?

5:14Meeting a music producer in Bryant Park

7:06Getting a production deal with Sony, and recording a Demo

7:55Meeting George Clinton

9:03How would you describe a production deal?

10:35Meeting with L.A. Reid at Arista

14:45Moving from New York to Los Angeles

17:15Meeting with Jimmy Iovine at Interscope Records

18:49Sticking up for yourself

23:17The remake of “The Monkees” on NBC

25:30The decision of who to sign with

28:30NBC Cancels the show

29:30Starting to work in the restaurant business

34:00Networking and being present

37:32Performing on The Bonnie Hunt Show

39:08Working with Emile Ghantous and getting a Pitbull placement

41:09Committing to getting out of restaurant service

42:02Pitching music for The Wanted and One Direction

44:10How long were you working in a restaurant before the Pitbull and Chirs Brown song?

44:46The importance of team building

46:06“You have to create your own enterprise.”

49:02Summing up Daniel’s lessons

50:55Listen to criticism and pay attention to trends

54:26Do you have any advice for your younger self or fledgling artists on the cusp of success?

57:38What are you working on now?

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Andrew Cedar

Tue, 20 Aug 2019 18:16:52 GMT

Our guest this week is producer and songwriter Andrew Cedar. Unless you’ve been living under a rock for the past few years, you’ve probably heard his songs Flo Rida, Wiz Khalifa and Charlie Puth. That includes Grammy Nominated song, “See You Again.”

Andrew grew up taking weekly piano lessons from when he was just 3 years old. With encouragement from a musical family, he earned him a full scholarship to UCLA’s music program. After a few short years studying, he got connected with the talent at Artist Publishing Group, and received a publishing deal before he even graduated.

Andrew joins us today to talk about the steps and methods that propelled his career forward, on this episode of the Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:20What was it like growing up?

2:14Was there ever a time growing up when you thought you might move away from music?

3:20What did you want to do after High School?

4:05Studying Jazz at UCLA

6:05So what happened after you graduated?

6:50Being introduced to Sam Martin and DJ Frank E

8:14Starting to move away from Jazz

10:16What was life like after getting signed with APG?

11:50What was the ‘mentor’ relationship like with DJ Frank E?

13:00Was there a point where everything shifted for you?

13:40Celebrate by Pitbull

16:05What was the next big step for you after ‘Celebrate’?

16:21GDFR by Flo Rida

18:03Did a lot of your songs get big over time? Or did you pursue songs you knew were hits?

19:03Are you working with mostly APG? Or other artists?

21:34How did you handle the momentum you gathered?

23:58What would you have done differently without your connection to APG?

25:13Being unemotional about music

29:30Is it easier for you to make music knowing where it’s going to live?

31:41Is it just your style to get right back to work after getting such a huge hit?

32:50What have you been working on since and what do you have coming up in the future?

32:58Think before I Talk by Astrid S

34:00What’s your take on the international side of music?

35:21Do you think growing up in a musical environment really contributed to your success?

37:20When you’re creating these days, are you pulling inspiration from the radio?

39:15Do you have any big plans for the future?

40:04Knowing what you know now, what advice would you give to your younger self?

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Amadeus

Tue, 13 Aug 2019 17:02:36 GMT

Antwan Thompson, better known by his producer name, Amadeus, is a heavy hitter in the music industry. He has credits with an extraordinarily long list of superstars which includes Jennifer Lopez, Trey Songz, Justin Bieber, Tyga and many more.

Growing up in the Bronx in New York, Amadeus started off learning to play the drums with his school band. His natural musical talent was only enhanced by his work ethic and dedication. That talent and dedication got him in the room with legendary producer Buckwild when he was only 15 years old.

Amadeus joins us to share his story, and what steps he took to become the powerhouse producer he is today.

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Show Notes

2:09Starting in the Bronx

2:55What was your first job?

4:05What was the music scene like when you were growing up?

5:18Block parties

6:10Learning a musical instrument in school, and starting with drums

8:33Did you know in highschool that you wanted to pursue music professionally?

9:16Meeting Buckwild

11:30How did you get connected to Buckwild?

13:45What kind of sacrifices did you make as a kid?

15:28Out of school, what did you first trying to “break in” to the music industry?

16:40Taking a meeting with Interscope Records, and placing with Foxy Brown

19:22Working a room and cultivating relationships

21:00What do you think you did differently that allowed you to sustain and grow?

26:30Would you say being a connoisseur of different style sounds was a key to your relevance?

27:33What advice would you give to someone creative entering the industry about relationships?

30:03The importance of getting your work out there, and being proactive

35:19How did you finance your career from the early days?

40:53What advice do you have for artists who don’t get credited for their work online?

44:45What advice would you give to your younger self getting started?

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Damon Sharpe

Tue, 06 Aug 2019 18:16:27 GMT

A lifetime performer, Damon Sharpe started his career as a touring dancer when he was only 15 years old.

His early success as a dancer led to multiple acting jobs, a television show, and even a record deal before it all came crashing down around him, teaching him the first and greatest lesson of his career- work ethic. This ultimately became Damon’s greatest asset, and led to the creation of songs like “Love Don’t Cost a Thing” by Jennifer Lopez and more.

Today, Damon is an international producer working in several different genres of music. He joins us this week to talk about his journey, and the importance of working hard and never taking no for an answer, on The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:33How did you get started with music?

3:01Being a dancer with Tiffany and New Kids on the Block

4:10What was it like touring at 15?

4:34The first big break

7:00Meeting Ric Wake

9:01Ric Wake gets some of his songs placed with Jennifer Lopez and Anastasia

9:50Seeing his name on a magazine

11:57Damon’s friend Deric Battiste and how the Ric Wake introduction happened

13:26How did you deal with the ups and downs as a songwriter

16:36“You don’t want to chase the whales every day”

19:05As an established songwriter, do you find yourself transitioning into that mentor role?

20:05If you could go back to a 15 or 20 year-old Damon, would you have done things differently?

22:40The importance of continuing to work

23:50How do you go about pursuing new artists and new genres?

26:16What do you think is the most important key to success?

28:02What would your advice be to someone who doesn’t know how to apply their hustle to the industry?

30:18What else do you have going on right now?

31:57The Come Together Now Project

33:07Balance

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Andrew Kirk

Tue, 30 Jul 2019 20:32:33 GMT

Andrew Kirk started out in music as the drummer for his church’s band and before he knew it, he was 18 years old and touring around the U.S. with them.

Being barely out of high school and touring the country may sound like he’d made it, but it was only the starting point for him. A few record deals and contracts later, Andrew used Youtube to help relaunch his career as an electronic musician under the name RUNAGROUND.

That found him a lot of success and even provided him the opportunity to write and perform a song for Dalai Lama.

Here’s Andrew to tell his story on this episode of the Big Break.

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Show Notes

2:36 First falling in love with music

3:45 Learning other instruments

5:00 Playing drums in a church band

6:45 Getting his first publishing deal

8:45 Did you consciously make the decision to be a touring artist?

11:23What did your parents think about you touring so young?

12:20“I’m the collection of 1000 second chances”

12:44RUNAGROUND and YouTube

14:40Putting higher-quality content on YouTube

16:00Was getting started on YouTube discouraging?

17:40The importance of collaborating with other artists

22:19The Anti-Gravity EP, and moving to L.A.

25:12Why did you decide to move to L.A.?

27:30Setting sights on a successful radio record

29:25It seems like you always new that music was how you wanted to make a living

32:10Do you remember any of the serious challenges that you faced?

33:29Tell us about the time you performed with the Dalai Lama

35:50We Are One

36:54What motivated your decision to sign with a label?

38:02Getting a #1 Radio Single with Chase You Down

40:25What were some of the challenges with getting that song released?

43:00What do you have planned for the future?

43:07Better Anyway

44:50Creative Freedom

45:57Would you say you had a definitive “break” where your career took off?

48:10What kind of an impact do you think luck had on your progress as an artist?

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Emile Ghantous

Tue, 23 Jul 2019 16:23:00 GMT

Emile Ghantous is a grammy nominated record producer and songwriter. He has credits with artists like Pitbull, JoJo, Charlie Wilson and dozens of other household names.

But, before he was producing songs for big-time artists, he was just a kid buying the latest R&B CDs in his hometown- Peoria, Illinois. Listening to groups like Boyz II Men and New Edition had him hooked on music and he began experimenting with creating beats and making songs with his friends in high school.

Flash forward a few years and Emile is hustling artists back and forth to his friend’s recording studio, spending sleepless nights producing music, and meeting with some of the most influential managers in the industry. All of that dedication eventually paid off when he landed a huge deal to produce an album for an aspiring artist.

He has a great story with a lot of ups and downs, a lot of hustle and some funny memories. Listen to it now on this episode of The Big Break.

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Show Notes

1:31Where did you grow up?

3:08Who fostered your interest in music when you were young?

4:25When did you start writing music?

6:35Emile’s first time using a drum machine

8:05Buying his own drum machine

10:43Recording people for the first time and selling the first records

12:10Selling old demos to collectors

14:28Starting to record in a real recording studio

16:06Dealing with doubt and discouragement from people

17:02Moving to Chicago

18:19Columbia College and learning Music

18:56Tomboy and getting connected to R. Kelly

22:00Being told to drop out of school, and just go get involved in the music business

23:37“He wanted me to learn that I can make money doing something I believe in.”

24:45After Emile dropped out of school

25:45Partnering with Erik Nelson, and making “Set You Free”

27:35The birth of The Insomniax

28:53Getting ripped off and learning lessons

30:08Emailing A&R’s and Managers

32:34When did all the pressure and work start to pay off?

32:453LW

36:55Jared Rosenberg

38:50Getting in touch with JoJo

40:20Getting connected to Vincent Herbert, and recording in New York

44:05When did you guys start charging people to record?

46:54Meeting Courtney Stewart and recording with Bobby Valentino

49:482009, and how working hard and doing work can turn your life around

55:00Working with Nasri

56:20Starting “The Cartoons”

57:50The importance of being organized, and sampling yourself

60:03“You never know when you’re going to meet that person you’re supposed to make magic with.”

62:00Closing thoughts

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Tami LaTrell

Tue, 16 Jul 2019 16:43:01 GMT

What happens when one of your songs is picked up by a superstar before you’re even 20?

That’s exactly what happened to our guest this week. Tami Latrell-Harris is a multi-platinum, Grammy-nominated songwriter with an unbelievable resume of work under her belt. She started out singing and performing with girl-groups in her teens, and when she was just 18 years old, one of her songs was picked up by Whitney Houston. That propelled her through college to an entrepreneurial life as a digital marketer, music industry educator, and songwriter.

She has since worked with R&B superstars Monica and Keyshia Cole, as well as artists like Love and Theft and Chamillionaire. She has a youtube channel with hundreds of thousands of followers, and is currently an executive at “The Labz” - a platform that helps artists manage their rights and protections of their work.

She’s our guest this week on The Big Break- Tami LaTrell.

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Show Notes

1:55When did you start getting into music?

2:44Drawing inspiration from Whitney Houston and others

5:28High school and singing in girl groups

7:00Being a solo-artist and signing with Indie Labels

10:00What made you pick the Indie Label that you signed with?

13:19Intuition

14:45Getting a scholarship

16:45Whitney Houston sings one of Tami’s songs

21:08Getting in touch with Arista

24:41How long did it take for you guys to come to a deal?

26:40Was there a temptation to abandon school and go all-in on music?

28:08Working with E. Poppi and Shawn Holiday and getting a publishing deal

31:55“Sometimes you have to make a sacrifice to get to where you want to go.”

34:00Moving to Atlanta and Keshia Cole

36:45Having her daughter and returning to Houston

39:15Adjusting to being a parent and a songwriter

43:15Working at RadioOne

45:15Returning to Atlanta

45:50Working with the Rickey Smiley Morning Show

48:35Diving back into an industry that has changed

53:30Youtube videos and educating the music world

56:16Women in Music - Atlanta Chapter

57:03Becoming a full-time Entrepreneur

65:50Meeting The Labz

72:55What advice would you have given to your younger self with the knowledge you have now?

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Jahlil Beats

Tue, 09 Jul 2019 17:45:09 GMT

Orlando Tucker is our guest this week on the big break. If you’re not familiar with that name, you’ll definitely know his production tag, Jahlil Beats.

Jahlil was born into music. From the age of 3 he was learning about music production from his father, and grew up developing his musical skills. After college, Jahlil took advantage of the blossoming world of social media, and online mix tapes to build a network in his local hip hop community. This led him to work with the likes of Meek Mill, Rick Ross, Lil Wayne, Jay-Z, and many other rap icons- ultimately netting him a Grammy in 2019.

On this episode of The Big Break we sit down with Jahlil to learn about how he got to this point in his career, and how he continues to impact his hometown.

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Show Notes

2:01Where did you grow up?

4:40How did you find out about the rappers you looked up to?

6:22Getting serious about producing music with Fruity Loops

8:48Getting a mixer and microphone

10:50College and going to Atlanta

13:05Myspace, DatPiff and flooding Philadelphia with music

15:10Growing the online brand presence

17:18Sending beats to Meek Mill

19:49Make em Say goes on the radio

21:08How does your life shift after that?

22:19Getting placements with Lil Wayne, Soulja Boy, and Chris Brown and Tyga

23:45Starting to work with Rick Ross, and making Ima Boss

27:23Hearing from Roc Nation and meeting with Jay-Z

32:50If you had to tell a young songwriter what to do when they get signed, what would you say?

35:05Why and how did you make the shift from making samples to original works?

38:15What lessons have you learned about the business that surprised you?

42:19How did you get involved in Real Estate?

46:36Aviom Mixers, business ventures, and upcoming works

48:01Summing up Jahlil

49:40Wisdom from Jahlil about taking care of yourself financially

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Jane't Sewell

Tue, 02 Jul 2019 18:38:17 GMT

This week on The Big Break we are joined by Jane’t Sewell, who is responsible for the massive hit “Empire State of Mind” performed by Jay-Z and Alicia Keys.

Janet started her career at a young age. A blend of business and creativity, she dedicated herself to the music industry the moment she realized that she could make money while making music. She took internships with industry heavy-hitters, taught herself how to be an engineer, and spent her nights making music all while maintaining her day job. After a sudden epiphany, Janet quit her day job to follow her dreams in music and never looked back. Today, she and her husband run an international record label and are continuing to write hits, and change the game.

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Show Notes

1:55When did you first start doing music?

2:53Working and learning in New York

3:38The Salute to Excellence

5:15What was the first big lesson you learned working at 16?

6:45Lou George and Full Force

7:53Mixing the business and the creative sides of music

9:49Interning at Sugar Hill with Leland Robinson

13:30What did you do different from other engineers or producers that were coming up with you?

15:22Working with Bruce Waynne in Brooklyn, New York

19:03Following your gut

21:10Quitting the day-job to pursue music full time

24:00What did you learn from writing for a signed artist?

29:53Sam Watters and the Art of a record

34:15Deciding to create a home studio

35:02Big John and learning about the business of Publishing

38:00What would you tell an up and coming writer about the art of turning music into money?

39:15Why PR is so important

41:10Writing and pitching “Empire State of Mind”

43:42Fighting for Alicia Keys

47:37How to get someone to sit up and pay attention

52:46Janet’s take on what it takes to ensure your record’s success

61:00How did “Empire State of Mind” change your working life?

61:32Bassivity Digital

68:50Janet’s parting advice for songwriters

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Sermstyle

Tue, 25 Jun 2019 17:09:27 GMT

Jamie Sanderson, better known as Sermstyle, grew up in Newcastle in Northern England. He started off as a hip hop producer, but as he networked and grew his following on Twitter he developed a fascination for Pop music and the global influence it has. He would spend hours and hours studying pop songs until eventually his dedication paid off, and he got connected with the Artist Partner Group. This ultimately lead to the creation of his first smash hit “Timber” by Pitbull featuring Kesha. He’s gone on to put his name on many more world-sweeping songs.

Jamie joins us today on The Big Break to talk about his evolution as the music producer “Sermstyle.”

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Show Notes

2:24When did you realize you wanted to make a living making music?

4:10What were you doing in music to get started?

5:00Newcastle, UK

5:55Did you ever entertain the idea of becoming a recording artist yourself?

7:05Graduating from Newcastle University and what’s next

8:01Using Twitter

9:39Do you remember the first big person you connected with on Twitter?

11:50Networking through the internet

12:45Making mixtapes

13:13“Still Blazin” with Wiz Khalifa, and the snowball of placements

15:09What advice do you have for music creators trying to cut through the noise?

16:55“Don’t be too precious”

18:10Independent placement middlemen

20:18PMP Worldwide

20:52Mike Caren

21:50Katy Perry’s “I Kissed a Girl” and getting interested in Pop music

22:40Dr. Luke

23:11Studying Pop

24:24Who was your “Dr. Dre” of Pop?

25:30The Detroit of England

26:38Working at a studio in London

27:45Struggling while focusing on Pop

29:07Aton from Warner and Ben Maddahi

31:53Returning to Newcastle, and working for Ben and Mike

32:20Receiving a deal with APG

32:42What was the first big thing you did with APG?

34:10Meeting everyone in LA and making “Timber”

37:12How did your professional life change after your publishing deal?

37:55Deciding to move to LA

38:48What advice would you give to an artist who is talking to a publisher who seems interested?

41:06So what happens after “Timber”?

47:02How do you keep the momentum going?

48:59If you had to give advice to yourself ten years ago, what advice would you give?

50:40What would you say the fundamentals should be for an aspiring songwriter?

51:41Are you working with any of the younger writers at APG?

53:02 Summing it all up

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John Chisum

Tue, 18 Jun 2019 16:16:18 GMT

John Chisum is a lifetime singer, songwriter, and Christian music producer based in Nashville, Tennessee.

As a young man, John moved to Nashville to pursue his dreams of songwriting. When he connected with legendary gospel songwriter Bill Gaither, he was presented with the opportunity to not only grow as a writer, but to intimately learn the in’s-and-out’s of music publishing and beyond. A strong believer in mentor’s and learning from the people you surround yourself with, John flourished as a producer and to this day helps develop and coach songwriters through his company Nashville Christian Songwriters.

His journey resulted in deep friendships all over the world, and celebrity status he never would have guessed he'd achieve.

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Show Notes

2:15When did you know you were going to make a career out of music?

4:45John moves to Nashville

5:19Meeting Bill Gaither

6:45Getting signed to a publishing deal

11:20Can he, Could he, Would he and The Cathedrals

11:55Mentoring and learning from skilled people

14:23Recognizing opportunity

15:36Chicken Soup for the Soul

17:33The transition from songwriter to working in publishing

21:10What advice would you give to a songwriter who wants to pitch their own work?

23:09How do you think songwriters should manage their publishers to get the most out of them?

27:55“They say there’s no better way to learn than to teach.”

32:04MAYA

33:50What is worship music?

34:48When churches began writing their own music

37:55John leaves the Gaithers, and moves to Integrity

40:35How did the transition from the creative side to the business side happen?

44:00Moving to the digital age

46:30Leaving Integrity

49:10Moving back to Mobile and traveling the world

51:24Lagos, Nigeria

51:51Soca Music

56:15Learning about being an international celebrity

60:23John’s return to Nashville

63:50The birth of Nashville Christian Songwriters

66:05The Song Revolution

66:41What is the split between coaching and creativity for you?

67:47What is the most common piece of advice that people you coach ignore?

69:50What have you learned from the young and aspiring songwriters?

72:12John’s closing words

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Eric Dan

Wed, 12 Jun 2019 15:30:43 GMT

Eric Dan is the man behind ID Labs, a Pittsburgh recording studio that oversaw the development of superstars Wiz Khalifa, and Mac Miller.

Eric dove head-first into music at a young age, trying his hand at various instruments and stage performances, while running multiple jobs as he slowly built his own recording studio. He began specializing in hip-hop, and when a young Wiz Khalifa walked in the door of his studio, he saw the opportunity for a partnership. That relationship propelled his career to several gold and platinum hits, and ID labs to being the premiere recording studio in Pittsburg.

He joins us today on the The Big Break to talk about how it all happened.

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Show Notes

1:50How did you know you wanted to make music for a living?

3:16Growing up and early music influences

5:05Early producing and getting into Hip-Hop

7:40Starting to make beats and getting connected to the local music scene

8:20Getting a taste for live performances and the stage

9:08“Strict Flow” and the difficulties of making music in Pittsburgh

9:53The birth of the basement studio

12:45Working in music full-time, and creating ID Labs

17:22The value of working with what you have, and setting achievable goals

19:53One day, Wiz walks in the door

22:10The decision to collaborate and develop together

27:15Diving in with Wiz

29:34“I wanted it to be more of a musical relationship”

32:34Unstoppable persistence and determination

33:52The business of making music vs. the business of making money

37:15The first release featuring Wiz Khalifa

39:20Signing with Warner Brothers

41:25Meeting Will Dzombak

43:10“Deal or No Deal” and being an Independent Artist

44:20Atlantic Records, Stargate, and how Rolling Papers came to existence

47:50The strength of Eric and Wiz’s relationship

50:10What have you learned from working with Wiz?

52:28How did everything change after Rolling Papers came out?

53:45Meeting Big Jerm

56:43Meeting Mac Miller

59:57Are there any of those musical moments with Mac that stand out in your mind?

62:50Finding inspiration in old records

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65:00With Wiz and Mac, was it ever difficult to balance between the two?

66:09If you could go back in time 20 years, what would you tell your younger self?

70:30What other advice would you give someone trying to make money doing what they love?

74:57What’s the most common non-musical advice you give to producers?

77:48Three big takeaways from Eric

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Frankie Storm

Wed, 05 Jun 2019 16:18:33 GMT

Frankie Storm is the songwriter behind hits like “Don’t Stop the Music” by Rihanna, and “Lightweight” by Demi Lovato.

Frankie started singing in her church choir and learning different instruments in her teens. Her career took off when a rapper asked her to record a hook for his album – her first time ever being recorded. That was her golden ticket into producers and publishers offices in Philadelphia and New York. As she pumped out hit after hit, she found a unique balance between success and stardom.

Today, she continues to write music, and helps developing artists achieve their dreams of success.

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Show Notes

1:23 Frankie in Church

4:00 Frankie the wild-child

4:36 Growing up

6:37 Frankie puts her voice to a song

7:42 Hearing her voice recorded for the first time

9:00 Frankie’s sister takes the CD and word starts to spread

9:35 Philadelphia producers Dre and Vidal call Frankie

10:50Frankie starts going to New York and meeting with Producers

13:14Frankie signs a deal

13:41Working with Stargate

15:10Making “Don’t Stop the Music”

20:00The first year making music

22:56Dealing with the fame of the name

27:00Frankie on Spirituality

28:40Frankie’s solo projects

30:10What advice do you give to artists you are developing?

32:30How do you work to stay relevant?

35:50What do you do to “live in the future” when you’re making music?

37:05Frankie's Angels

38:10We can give to people and stay down to Earth, it’s important to love everybody

40:00Summarizing Frankie’s philosophy

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Bruce Waynne Part 2

Wed, 29 May 2019 00:10:25 GMT

Today we reunite with Bruce Waynne, part of the producing duo Midi Mafia to hear the rest of his story. Where we left off, Bruce and his partner David Swift had rented a large studio house and were diving into the R&B scene. From there, Bruce learned about loose ends, protecting yourself as an entrepreneur, and as a person. He learned about the world of Youtube and brand recognition, and how to expand the breadth of his work to service more than just listeners. He started making waves in film and television space and now owns one of the largest hip-hop music libraries in the world. Today, Bruce is the Vice President of Transparence Entertainment Group, which is a company that services neighboring rights for performers and copyright owners.

Take a listen, we hope you enjoy the second and final installment of Bruce Waynne’s story.

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Show Notes

2:30Recap where we left off

3:40Swift breaks his back

6:30The investor from his past returns

11:40Errors and Omissions insurance, commonly referred to as Professional Liability Insurance

13:20What were the lessons from the lawsuit?

15:42What were some examples of thinking outside of the box when you guys were handicapped?

16:05Youtube and Monetization

19:18Working with Extreme Music

21:04Learning about industries within the industry

24:30Opening up to the world of Music Catalog Libraries

26:20What is Extreme Music and Library Music?

30:05The difference between Scoring and Music Libraries

30:48Music in the Trailer business

30:58 For a side-by-side comparison check out the “Us” Trailer and “I’ve got 5 on it”

33:30Building a Music Library- How Bruce got to have the #1 Urban Music Library

37:50The digital space and the impact it has had

39:47What else are you working on now Bruce?

40:20What are Neighboring Rights?

43:45How Bruce found artists millions of dollars in unclaimed royalties

45:21Transparence Entertainment Group

48:00How can the music business do a better job making artists aware of all the rights they have?

49:37How cultivating artists can be like parenting, and the importance of community

59:00How Royalty Exchange helps

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Bruce Waynne Part 1

Fri, 10 May 2019 18:58:39 GMT

Bruce Waynne of Midi Mafia joins us to discuss his journey through the music industry. Bruce grew up in the Bronx, slinging mixtapes and CD’s in his local neighborhood, and his experiences creating music helped propel him to heights he couldn’t imagine as a young man. He is a golden example of how your network can help you grow. In this first installment, we get to learn how Bruce’s connections were instrumental in getting him in front of and comfortable with the right people, while priming him for an explosive career.

Take a listen, we hope you enjoy hearing Part 1 of the saga of Bruce Waynne.

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Show Notes

1:00Bruce on Entrepreneurs

2:10“Thief in the Night”, “Us”, and Hip Hop in the 90’s

7:00Bruce’s first investment, the good and the bad

11:00Bruce’s departure from “Us”

13:10Expanding his skills, and learning about Producing

15:50How the connections began to connect

17:55The marriage of work ethic and relationships- Meeting Tony Perez

24:43David Swift and Bruce Waynne, the birth of Midi Mafia

27:0250 Cent and 21 Questions

29:10Scott Belcher and learning the music business

31:30Bruce and Swift working with artists

32:26Quote from Swift

36:00Bruce and Swift: A case study in how to be partners

37:38Becoming A&R’s and growing in the business

40:58Pivoting when things change, moving from Electric to Atlantic

43:12The merger and hitting walls

43:50Stepping into the R&B world

45:26Making R&B at a higher level and going to Los Angeles

47:03American Idol, and becoming a larger business

49:20Starting working with Independent Artists

51:50Working out of Glen Ballard’s studio house and creating an environment for creativity

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