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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Grief has a way of finding you twice. Once when it happens- and again, years later, when you're standing in your twenties and you just want to pick up the phone.</p><p>Ruby Jenkins is a hairdresser and entrepreneur who lost her mum suddenly at fifteen, there one day, gone the next. Daisy lost hers at fourteen, after years of watching cancer take hold. They met three years ago over a bad blow dry, two weeks before Daisy's wedding, and have been in each other's corner ever since. What they didn't know until they sat down to record this was how much they'd never said out loud.</p><br><p>In this conversation, Ruby and Daisy talk about what grief actually feels like when the funeral is over and everyone goes home-&nbsp; that hollow feeling nobody prepares you for. They talk about why grief doesn't get easier with time, it just gets easier to carry, and why for both of them it hit hardest not at fifteen but in their twenties, when the little things started to sting. They talk about the embarrassment of grief that nobody mentions, what it means to stand at a crossroads after loss and choose who you become, and how losing her mum gave Ruby the biggest empathy battery she's ever had - something she'd never give back. Ruby also shares the wisdom her mum handed down that she still carries: there is always something to be glad about. You just have to find it.</p><br><p>This one is for anyone who has ever lost someone young and wondered if the weight ever lifts. It does. You just get stronger at carrying it.</p><br><p>Every Thursday at 3pm. 🌼</p><br><p><strong>In this episode we discuss:</strong></p><ul><li>Why grief doesn't get easier, it just gets easier to carry</li><li>What nobody tells you about losing a parent young</li><li>Why grief hits harder in your twenties than it did at fifteen</li><li>The embarrassment of grief nobody talks about</li><li>Growing up without a mother and finding guidance elsewhere</li><li>Life after loss, choosing who you become</li><li>There is always something to be glad about, even when you have to look hard</li><li>How losing a parent young shapes the person you become</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow The Daisy Chain:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/thedaisychainpod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Follow The Daisy Chain on Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@thedaisychainpod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Daisy Chain's TikTok</a></li><li>Know an amazing guest? Contact us at thedaisychainpod@gmail.com</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Enjoyed this episode?</strong></p><ul><li>Subscribe on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts.</li><li>Leave a 5🌼 review to help more people discover our pearls of wisdom.</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>What found us - Links &amp; Mentions</strong></p><p><strong>Ruby:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.1854.photography/2024/03/rays-a-laugh-richard-billingham-mack/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ray's a Laugh - Richard Billingham (photography book)</a></li><li><a href="https://martinparr.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Martin Parr (photographer)</a></li><li><a href="https://letterboxd.com/film/hot-fuzz/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot Fuzz (film)</a></li><li><a href="https://www.waterstones.com/book/everything-i-know-about-love/dolly-alderton/9780241982105" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Everything I Know About Love - Dolly Alderton (book)</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jL4S4X97sQ&amp;list=RD3jL4S4X97sQ&amp;start_radio=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vienna - Billy Joel (song)</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Daisy:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://letterboxd.com/film/project-hail-mary/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Project Hail Mary (film)</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tgspkNRIcc&amp;list=RD3tgspkNRIcc&amp;start_radio=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kacey Musgraves - Oh What a World (song)</a></li><li><a href="https://letterboxd.com/film/about-time/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">About Time (film)</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>What found me this week:</strong>Charlotte’s pick:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfq_A8nXMsQ&amp;list=RDxfq_A8nXMsQ&amp;start_radio=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Baz Luhrmunn- Everybody’s Free to Wear Sunscreen</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Guest:</strong> Ruby Jenkins <a href="https://www.instagram.com/byrou_/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@byrou_</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Grief has a way of finding you twice. Once when it happens- and again, years later, when you're standing in your twenties and you just want to pick up the phone.</p><p>Ruby Jenkins is a hairdresser and entrepreneur who lost her mum suddenly at fifteen, there one day, gone the next. Daisy lost hers at fourteen, after years of watching cancer take hold. They met three years ago over a bad blow dry, two weeks before Daisy's wedding, and have been in each other's corner ever since. What they didn't know until they sat down to record this was how much they'd never said out loud.</p><br><p>In this conversation, Ruby and Daisy talk about what grief actually feels like when the funeral is over and everyone goes home-&nbsp; that hollow feeling nobody prepares you for. They talk about why grief doesn't get easier with time, it just gets easier to carry, and why for both of them it hit hardest not at fifteen but in their twenties, when the little things started to sting. They talk about the embarrassment of grief that nobody mentions, what it means to stand at a crossroads after loss and choose who you become, and how losing her mum gave Ruby the biggest empathy battery she's ever had - something she'd never give back. Ruby also shares the wisdom her mum handed down that she still carries: there is always something to be glad about. You just have to find it.</p><br><p>This one is for anyone who has ever lost someone young and wondered if the weight ever lifts. It does. You just get stronger at carrying it.</p><br><p>Every Thursday at 3pm. 🌼</p><br><p><strong>In this episode we discuss:</strong></p><ul><li>Why grief doesn't get easier, it just gets easier to carry</li><li>What nobody tells you about losing a parent young</li><li>Why grief hits harder in your twenties than it did at fifteen</li><li>The embarrassment of grief nobody talks about</li><li>Growing up without a mother and finding guidance elsewhere</li><li>Life after loss, choosing who you become</li><li>There is always something to be glad about, even when you have to look hard</li><li>How losing a parent young shapes the person you become</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow The Daisy Chain:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/thedaisychainpod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Follow The Daisy Chain on Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@thedaisychainpod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Daisy Chain's TikTok</a></li><li>Know an amazing guest? Contact us at thedaisychainpod@gmail.com</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Enjoyed this episode?</strong></p><ul><li>Subscribe on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts.</li><li>Leave a 5🌼 review to help more people discover our pearls of wisdom.</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>What found us - Links &amp; Mentions</strong></p><p><strong>Ruby:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.1854.photography/2024/03/rays-a-laugh-richard-billingham-mack/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ray's a Laugh - Richard Billingham (photography book)</a></li><li><a href="https://martinparr.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Martin Parr (photographer)</a></li><li><a href="https://letterboxd.com/film/hot-fuzz/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hot Fuzz (film)</a></li><li><a href="https://www.waterstones.com/book/everything-i-know-about-love/dolly-alderton/9780241982105" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Everything I Know About Love - Dolly Alderton (book)</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jL4S4X97sQ&amp;list=RD3jL4S4X97sQ&amp;start_radio=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vienna - Billy Joel (song)</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Daisy:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://letterboxd.com/film/project-hail-mary/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Project Hail Mary (film)</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tgspkNRIcc&amp;list=RD3tgspkNRIcc&amp;start_radio=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kacey Musgraves - Oh What a World (song)</a></li><li><a href="https://letterboxd.com/film/about-time/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">About Time (film)</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>What found me this week:</strong>Charlotte’s pick:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfq_A8nXMsQ&amp;list=RDxfq_A8nXMsQ&amp;start_radio=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Baz Luhrmunn- Everybody’s Free to Wear Sunscreen</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Guest:</strong> Ruby Jenkins <a href="https://www.instagram.com/byrou_/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@byrou_</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Some of the most important things anyone ever told you about creativity, confidence and finding your way weren't said in a classroom or a therapy room. They were said in a kitchen, at a piano, in the middle of an ordinary afternoon by someone who had already figured it out the hard way.</p><br><p>Natalie is an actress with decades of BBC productions, theatre and film behind her - Calendar Girls, Pride and Prejudice, The Importance of Being Earnest, and this summer Shear Madness at the Sonning Theatre. She has spent nearly thirty years teaching the STAGE method to everyone from children to corporate boardrooms, helping people find their voice when it matters most. But she also happens to have known Daisy since the day she was born - and long before any of the credentials, she was the person who sat her down at a piano and told her to just play.</p><br><p>In this conversation, Natalie talks about what it really means to use anger as fuel rather than letting it consume you, and why the fire you felt at fifteen never actually goes out - it just needs you to look for it. They talk about creativity and why boredom is one of the most underrated tools you have, about letting go of what you cannot control, and about gratitude as something you practise rather than feel. Natalie shares what a hypnotherapist gave her in two words that changed everything, how watching David Bowie on Top of the Pops in 1973 cracked something open in her, and why nothing you have ever learned — even the things that didn't work out - is ever truly wasted.</p><br><p>This one is for anyone who has ever felt lost, poured everything into something that didn't go to plan, or needed a reminder that feeling behind is not the same as being behind.</p><br><p>Every Thursday at 3pm. 🌼</p><br><p>In this episode we discuss:</p><ul><li>Using anger as fuel, not fire</li><li>Why nothing you've ever learned is wasted</li><li>The two words that changed everything</li><li>Boredom as a creative tool</li><li>Letting go of what you can't control</li><li>Gratitude as a daily practice</li><li>Natalie Ogle's STAGE method and public speaking</li><li>Why the fire in your belly never really goes out</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Follow The Daisy Chain:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/thedaisychainpod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Follow The Daisy Chain on Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@the.daisy.chain.pod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Daisy Chain's TikTok</a></li><li>Know an amazing guest? Contact us at <a href="mailto:thedaisychainpod@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thedaisychainpod@gmail.com</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Enjoyed this episode?</p><ul><li>Subscribe on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts.</li><li>Leave a 5🌟 review — to help more people discover our pearls of wisdom.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>What found us — Links &amp; Mentions</p><p>Daisy: </p><ul><li><a href="https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/463153/give-it-a-grow-by-swales-martha/9780241710364" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Give it a grow by Martha Swales</a></li><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/6HzNXN730dXkoUeSlPFWrv?si=264ead2edb834582" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joshua Tree by Demi Lovato &amp; Rose Gray</a></li><li><a href="https://letterboxd.com/film/is-this-thing-on-2025/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Is This Thing On? </a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>What found me this week: Ella's pick: </p><ul><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44272/the-road-not-taken" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Road Not Taken by Robert Frost</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Natalie:</p><ul><li>Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars </li><li>The Rocky Horror Show</li><li>Suzi Quatro</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Guest: <a href="https://www.sonningtheatre.co.uk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Natalie — Shear Madness at the Sonning Theatre</a></p><br><p>The Daisy Chain is a weekly podcast where every week, someone who's already been where you are passes down four pearls of wisdom to those of us still finding our way.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Some of the most important things anyone ever told you about creativity, confidence and finding your way weren't said in a classroom or a therapy room. They were said in a kitchen, at a piano, in the middle of an ordinary afternoon by someone who had already figured it out the hard way.</p><br><p>Natalie is an actress with decades of BBC productions, theatre and film behind her - Calendar Girls, Pride and Prejudice, The Importance of Being Earnest, and this summer Shear Madness at the Sonning Theatre. She has spent nearly thirty years teaching the STAGE method to everyone from children to corporate boardrooms, helping people find their voice when it matters most. But she also happens to have known Daisy since the day she was born - and long before any of the credentials, she was the person who sat her down at a piano and told her to just play.</p><br><p>In this conversation, Natalie talks about what it really means to use anger as fuel rather than letting it consume you, and why the fire you felt at fifteen never actually goes out - it just needs you to look for it. They talk about creativity and why boredom is one of the most underrated tools you have, about letting go of what you cannot control, and about gratitude as something you practise rather than feel. Natalie shares what a hypnotherapist gave her in two words that changed everything, how watching David Bowie on Top of the Pops in 1973 cracked something open in her, and why nothing you have ever learned — even the things that didn't work out - is ever truly wasted.</p><br><p>This one is for anyone who has ever felt lost, poured everything into something that didn't go to plan, or needed a reminder that feeling behind is not the same as being behind.</p><br><p>Every Thursday at 3pm. 🌼</p><br><p>In this episode we discuss:</p><ul><li>Using anger as fuel, not fire</li><li>Why nothing you've ever learned is wasted</li><li>The two words that changed everything</li><li>Boredom as a creative tool</li><li>Letting go of what you can't control</li><li>Gratitude as a daily practice</li><li>Natalie Ogle's STAGE method and public speaking</li><li>Why the fire in your belly never really goes out</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Follow The Daisy Chain:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/thedaisychainpod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Follow The Daisy Chain on Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@the.daisy.chain.pod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Daisy Chain's TikTok</a></li><li>Know an amazing guest? Contact us at <a href="mailto:thedaisychainpod@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thedaisychainpod@gmail.com</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Enjoyed this episode?</p><ul><li>Subscribe on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts.</li><li>Leave a 5🌟 review — to help more people discover our pearls of wisdom.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>What found us — Links &amp; Mentions</p><p>Daisy: </p><ul><li><a href="https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/463153/give-it-a-grow-by-swales-martha/9780241710364" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Give it a grow by Martha Swales</a></li><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/6HzNXN730dXkoUeSlPFWrv?si=264ead2edb834582" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joshua Tree by Demi Lovato &amp; Rose Gray</a></li><li><a href="https://letterboxd.com/film/is-this-thing-on-2025/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Is This Thing On? </a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>What found me this week: Ella's pick: </p><ul><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44272/the-road-not-taken" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Road Not Taken by Robert Frost</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Natalie:</p><ul><li>Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars </li><li>The Rocky Horror Show</li><li>Suzi Quatro</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Guest: <a href="https://www.sonningtheatre.co.uk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Natalie — Shear Madness at the Sonning Theatre</a></p><br><p>The Daisy Chain is a weekly podcast where every week, someone who's already been where you are passes down four pearls of wisdom to those of us still finding our way.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[There's always a gift in the sadness — Jonnie Godfrey on growing up without a parent, finding purpose through loss and self-awareness | The Daisy Chain]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>There's a particular weight to the moment you realise you've been distracting yourself from your own head — filling every gap with plans and people and things to do, just to avoid sitting in the quiet with yourself. If that sounds familiar, this conversation was made for you.</p><br><p>Jonnie Godfrey has known Daisy for twenty years. She's a psychotherapist, a coach, and a mother who raised two remarkable children largely on her own - but what makes her worth listening to isn't her credentials. It's that she grew up without her father, went to boarding school at nine, spent nine months travelling solo across Africa before anyone thought that was remarkable, and learned - slowly, imperfectly - that every truly awful thing in her life eventually gave her something back.</p><br><p>In this conversation, Jonnie and Daisy talk about what it really means to grow up without a parent, how anxious attachment shapes the way we love and the way we run, and the strange relief that comes from accepting that it's actually your job to get things wrong. They talk about boredom, stillness, the gift inside loss, and why the best piece of wisdom Jonnie ever received was the quietest: be still, and know there is peace within you.</p><br><p>Jonnie is the kind of person you want to have known for twenty years. The Daisy Chain is lucky to have her in the chain.</p><br><p>Every Thursday at 3pm. 🌼</p><br><p>In this episode we discuss:</p><ul><li>Growing up without a parent</li><li>Boarding school and feeling set apart</li><li>Anxious attachment and how it shapes the way we love</li><li>What distraction is really hiding</li><li>The gift inside heartbreak and loss</li><li>Parenting without a map</li><li>Why it's our job to get it wrong</li><li>Finding stillness</li><li>Intergenerational wisdom</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Follow The Daisy Chain:&nbsp;</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/thedaisychainpod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Follow The Daisy Chain on Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@the.daisy.chain.pod?_r=1&amp;_t=zn-95jopviazvg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Daisy Chain’s Tik Tok&nbsp;</a></li><li>Know an amazing guest? Contact us at <a href="mailto:thedaisychainpod@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thedaisychainpod@gmail.com</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Enjoyed this episode?&nbsp;</p><ul><li>Subscribe on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts.&nbsp;</li><li>Leave a 5🌟 review- to help more people discover our pearls of wisdom.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>What found us- Links &amp; Mentions</p><p>Daisy: </p><ul><li><a href="https://www.waterstones.com/book/tomorrow-and-tomorrow-and-tomorrow/gabrielle-zevin/9781529115543" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tomorrow, Tomorrow and Tomorrow by Gabrielle Zevin</a></li><li><a href="https://www.artic.edu/artworks/100858/sky-above-clouds-iv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sky above Clouds IV by Georgia O'Keefe</a></li></ul><p>Jonnie:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.waterstones.com/book/the-continuum-concept/jean-liedloff/9780140192452" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Continuum Concept by Dr. Jean Leadoff</a></li><li>The Family Bed by Tine Thevenin</li><li><a href="https://www.waterstones.com/book/the-prophet/kahlil-gibran//9781847498274?sv1=affiliate&amp;sv_campaign_id=626889&amp;awc=3787_1776854323_926dfb4e523e25d7013f53f955c2e298&amp;utm_source=626889&amp;utm_medium=affiliate&amp;utm_campaign=adstrong" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Prophet by Kahlil Gibran</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Guest: <a href="https://www.counselling-directory.org.uk/counsellors/jonnie-godfrey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jonnie Godfrey</a></p><br><p>The Daisy Chain is a weekly podcast where every week, someone who's already been where you are passes down four pearls of wisdom to those of us still finding our way.</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>There's a particular weight to the moment you realise you've been distracting yourself from your own head — filling every gap with plans and people and things to do, just to avoid sitting in the quiet with yourself. If that sounds familiar, this conversation was made for you.</p><br><p>Jonnie Godfrey has known Daisy for twenty years. She's a psychotherapist, a coach, and a mother who raised two remarkable children largely on her own - but what makes her worth listening to isn't her credentials. It's that she grew up without her father, went to boarding school at nine, spent nine months travelling solo across Africa before anyone thought that was remarkable, and learned - slowly, imperfectly - that every truly awful thing in her life eventually gave her something back.</p><br><p>In this conversation, Jonnie and Daisy talk about what it really means to grow up without a parent, how anxious attachment shapes the way we love and the way we run, and the strange relief that comes from accepting that it's actually your job to get things wrong. They talk about boredom, stillness, the gift inside loss, and why the best piece of wisdom Jonnie ever received was the quietest: be still, and know there is peace within you.</p><br><p>Jonnie is the kind of person you want to have known for twenty years. The Daisy Chain is lucky to have her in the chain.</p><br><p>Every Thursday at 3pm. 🌼</p><br><p>In this episode we discuss:</p><ul><li>Growing up without a parent</li><li>Boarding school and feeling set apart</li><li>Anxious attachment and how it shapes the way we love</li><li>What distraction is really hiding</li><li>The gift inside heartbreak and loss</li><li>Parenting without a map</li><li>Why it's our job to get it wrong</li><li>Finding stillness</li><li>Intergenerational wisdom</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Follow The Daisy Chain:&nbsp;</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/thedaisychainpod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Follow The Daisy Chain on Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@the.daisy.chain.pod?_r=1&amp;_t=zn-95jopviazvg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Daisy Chain’s Tik Tok&nbsp;</a></li><li>Know an amazing guest? Contact us at <a href="mailto:thedaisychainpod@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thedaisychainpod@gmail.com</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Enjoyed this episode?&nbsp;</p><ul><li>Subscribe on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts.&nbsp;</li><li>Leave a 5🌟 review- to help more people discover our pearls of wisdom.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>What found us- Links &amp; Mentions</p><p>Daisy: </p><ul><li><a href="https://www.waterstones.com/book/tomorrow-and-tomorrow-and-tomorrow/gabrielle-zevin/9781529115543" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tomorrow, Tomorrow and Tomorrow by Gabrielle Zevin</a></li><li><a href="https://www.artic.edu/artworks/100858/sky-above-clouds-iv" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sky above Clouds IV by Georgia O'Keefe</a></li></ul><p>Jonnie:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.waterstones.com/book/the-continuum-concept/jean-liedloff/9780140192452" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Continuum Concept by Dr. Jean Leadoff</a></li><li>The Family Bed by Tine Thevenin</li><li><a href="https://www.waterstones.com/book/the-prophet/kahlil-gibran//9781847498274?sv1=affiliate&amp;sv_campaign_id=626889&amp;awc=3787_1776854323_926dfb4e523e25d7013f53f955c2e298&amp;utm_source=626889&amp;utm_medium=affiliate&amp;utm_campaign=adstrong" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Prophet by Kahlil Gibran</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Guest: <a href="https://www.counselling-directory.org.uk/counsellors/jonnie-godfrey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jonnie Godfrey</a></p><br><p>The Daisy Chain is a weekly podcast where every week, someone who's already been where you are passes down four pearls of wisdom to those of us still finding our way.</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Back yourself even when you don't feel ready — Doulla Croft on imposter syndrome, work life balance and getting braver with age | The Daisy Chain]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Back yourself even when you don't feel ready — Doulla Croft on imposter syndrome, work life balance and getting braver with age | The Daisy Chain]]></itunes:title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>There's a version of confidence that looks like having it all together from the outside, and then there's what it actually feels like on the inside. If you've ever walked into a room certain that today is the day it all comes unstuck - this one is for you.</p><br><p>Doulla Croft has known Daisy since the day she was born. She built a career spanning decades at some of the world's biggest companies, managed high-performing teams, smashed targets - and spent most of it quietly convinced she was faking it. What makes her story worth hearing isn't the career. It's everything that had to happen before it, and everything she chose to walk away from after.</p><br><p>In this conversation, Doulla talks honestly about growing up feeling different, the cultural expectations placed on her as a young girl, and the moment during her first marriage with two children under five - that she turned her car around and signed up for A-levels at night school. She talks about imposter syndrome that never fully went away, the trap of tying your identity to your work, and why financial independence matters more than any job title. And she talks about what two rounds of cancer quietly clarified: what was actually worth fighting for, and what wasn't.</p><br><p>Doulla is one of those people who has genuinely earned her perspective - and she passes it down here without a single piece of advice that doesn't come from having really lived it.</p><br><p>Every Thursday at 3pm 🌼</p><br><p><strong>In this episode we talk about:</strong></p><ul><li>Imposter syndrome and how to build confidence from evidence rather than feeling</li><li>Growing up under cultural expectations as a first generation British woman</li><li>How to separate your identity from your career</li><li>Finding your purpose after corporate life</li><li>Financial independence for women and why it matters in every relationship</li><li>Overcoming a difficult first marriage and starting over in your twenties</li><li>Discovering you're dyslexic as an adult and what that changes</li><li>Work life balance and the trap of tying your self worth to your job title</li><li>Getting braver with age and giving less of a damn</li><li>What a cancer diagnosis teaches you about what actually matters</li><li>Intergenerational wisdom and passing down what you know</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow The Daisy Chain:</strong></p><ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thedaisychainpod/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@thedaisychainpod</a></li><li>TikTok: <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@the.daisy.chain.pod?_r=1&amp;_t=ZN-95Z2SNa7xSw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@the.daisy.chain.pod</a></li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-daisy-chain-podcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Daisy Chain Podcast</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Doulla</strong></p><ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/doullacroft/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@doullacroft</a></li><li>Linkedin: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/doulla-croft-frsa-5145a8a/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Doulla Croft&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://sidehustleproductions.org/#home" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Side Hustle Productions</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Enjoyed this episode?</strong></p><ul><li>Follow on Spotify, Apple or Amazon</li><li>Leave a 5⭐ review to help more people find the show</li><li><a href="https://linktr.ee/thedaisychainpod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Join the chain </a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Links &amp; Mentions:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.scottishpoetrylibrary.org.uk/poem/warning/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Warning by Jenny Joseph</a></li><li><a href="https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/Why-Am-I-Afraid-to-Tell-You-Who-I-Am-by-John-Powell/9780006281054?srsltid=AfmBOoo5MDCRGb8X63nUTXlXVuh0z9p8nKuiBrnmhfya6bIeL3FRu2QK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why Am I Afraid To Tell You Who I Am? by John Powell</a></li><li>Sentimental Value</li><li>I'm Still Standing by Elton John</li><li>The Traitors</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Guest:</strong> Doulla Croft</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>There's a version of confidence that looks like having it all together from the outside, and then there's what it actually feels like on the inside. If you've ever walked into a room certain that today is the day it all comes unstuck - this one is for you.</p><br><p>Doulla Croft has known Daisy since the day she was born. She built a career spanning decades at some of the world's biggest companies, managed high-performing teams, smashed targets - and spent most of it quietly convinced she was faking it. What makes her story worth hearing isn't the career. It's everything that had to happen before it, and everything she chose to walk away from after.</p><br><p>In this conversation, Doulla talks honestly about growing up feeling different, the cultural expectations placed on her as a young girl, and the moment during her first marriage with two children under five - that she turned her car around and signed up for A-levels at night school. She talks about imposter syndrome that never fully went away, the trap of tying your identity to your work, and why financial independence matters more than any job title. And she talks about what two rounds of cancer quietly clarified: what was actually worth fighting for, and what wasn't.</p><br><p>Doulla is one of those people who has genuinely earned her perspective - and she passes it down here without a single piece of advice that doesn't come from having really lived it.</p><br><p>Every Thursday at 3pm 🌼</p><br><p><strong>In this episode we talk about:</strong></p><ul><li>Imposter syndrome and how to build confidence from evidence rather than feeling</li><li>Growing up under cultural expectations as a first generation British woman</li><li>How to separate your identity from your career</li><li>Finding your purpose after corporate life</li><li>Financial independence for women and why it matters in every relationship</li><li>Overcoming a difficult first marriage and starting over in your twenties</li><li>Discovering you're dyslexic as an adult and what that changes</li><li>Work life balance and the trap of tying your self worth to your job title</li><li>Getting braver with age and giving less of a damn</li><li>What a cancer diagnosis teaches you about what actually matters</li><li>Intergenerational wisdom and passing down what you know</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow The Daisy Chain:</strong></p><ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thedaisychainpod/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@thedaisychainpod</a></li><li>TikTok: <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@the.daisy.chain.pod?_r=1&amp;_t=ZN-95Z2SNa7xSw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@the.daisy.chain.pod</a></li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-daisy-chain-podcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Daisy Chain Podcast</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Doulla</strong></p><ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/doullacroft/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@doullacroft</a></li><li>Linkedin: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/doulla-croft-frsa-5145a8a/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Doulla Croft&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://sidehustleproductions.org/#home" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Side Hustle Productions</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Enjoyed this episode?</strong></p><ul><li>Follow on Spotify, Apple or Amazon</li><li>Leave a 5⭐ review to help more people find the show</li><li><a href="https://linktr.ee/thedaisychainpod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Join the chain </a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Links &amp; Mentions:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.scottishpoetrylibrary.org.uk/poem/warning/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Warning by Jenny Joseph</a></li><li><a href="https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/Why-Am-I-Afraid-to-Tell-You-Who-I-Am-by-John-Powell/9780006281054?srsltid=AfmBOoo5MDCRGb8X63nUTXlXVuh0z9p8nKuiBrnmhfya6bIeL3FRu2QK" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why Am I Afraid To Tell You Who I Am? by John Powell</a></li><li>Sentimental Value</li><li>I'm Still Standing by Elton John</li><li>The Traitors</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Guest:</strong> Doulla Croft</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2026 14:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>There's a podcast for the glowy skin, perfect morning, collagen-in-the-coffee version of you. This isn't it.</p><br><p>The Daisy Chain was born out of two of the most defining moments of host Daisy's life - losing her mum at 14 and finding herself lost in a spiral of self-improvement content in the run up to her wedding. Both times she was looking for the same thing: not more information, not another how-to, but the honest wisdom of someone who had already been through it. Someone who could sit with her and say - I've been there, and here's what I know.</p><br><p>In this first solo episode, Daisy introduces herself and the show. She talks about navigating adulthood without a conventional map, the grief of growing up without her mother, and why the women around her - her aunties, her neighbours, her teachers - became the mentors and guides she didn't know she was looking for. She also talks honestly about the overwhelming noise of self-improvement culture, why it made her feel worse not better, and what she is craving underneath all of it.</p><br><p>This is your 3pm podcast. The one for when the spiral starts and you need something real. Not more noise - just an honest conversation that reminds you that feeling lost is not a failure and you are not doing this alone.</p><br><p>If you've ever felt like everyone else has it figured out except you - this one's for you.</p><br><p>Every Thursday. 🌼</p><br><p>The Daisy Chain is a weekly podcast — intergenerational conversations where remarkable people who've already lived through what you might be facing pass down four pearls of wisdom to those of us still figuring it out. Every Thursday at 3pm.</p><br><p><strong>Enjoyed this episode?</strong></p><ul><li>Subscribe on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts</li><li>Leave a 5🌟 review — it helps more people discover the chain</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow The Daisy Chain:</strong></p><ul><li>Instagram: @thedaisychainpod</li><li>TikTok: @thedaisychainpod</li><li>thisisthedaisychain.com</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Got someone amazing in mind for the chain?</strong> Get in touch: <a href="mailto:thedaisychainpod@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thedaisychainpod@gmail.com</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>There's a podcast for the glowy skin, perfect morning, collagen-in-the-coffee version of you. This isn't it.</p><br><p>The Daisy Chain was born out of two of the most defining moments of host Daisy's life - losing her mum at 14 and finding herself lost in a spiral of self-improvement content in the run up to her wedding. Both times she was looking for the same thing: not more information, not another how-to, but the honest wisdom of someone who had already been through it. Someone who could sit with her and say - I've been there, and here's what I know.</p><br><p>In this first solo episode, Daisy introduces herself and the show. She talks about navigating adulthood without a conventional map, the grief of growing up without her mother, and why the women around her - her aunties, her neighbours, her teachers - became the mentors and guides she didn't know she was looking for. She also talks honestly about the overwhelming noise of self-improvement culture, why it made her feel worse not better, and what she is craving underneath all of it.</p><br><p>This is your 3pm podcast. The one for when the spiral starts and you need something real. Not more noise - just an honest conversation that reminds you that feeling lost is not a failure and you are not doing this alone.</p><br><p>If you've ever felt like everyone else has it figured out except you - this one's for you.</p><br><p>Every Thursday. 🌼</p><br><p>The Daisy Chain is a weekly podcast — intergenerational conversations where remarkable people who've already lived through what you might be facing pass down four pearls of wisdom to those of us still figuring it out. Every Thursday at 3pm.</p><br><p><strong>Enjoyed this episode?</strong></p><ul><li>Subscribe on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts</li><li>Leave a 5🌟 review — it helps more people discover the chain</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow The Daisy Chain:</strong></p><ul><li>Instagram: @thedaisychainpod</li><li>TikTok: @thedaisychainpod</li><li>thisisthedaisychain.com</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Got someone amazing in mind for the chain?</strong> Get in touch: <a href="mailto:thedaisychainpod@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thedaisychainpod@gmail.com</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Feeling behind in life? You're not as lost as you think | The Daisy Chain]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Feeling behind in life? You're not as lost as you think | The Daisy Chain]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2026 19:37:22 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>A podcast for the self-led — navigating life without a conventional map</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Adulthood is overwhelming. There's so much noise telling you how your life should look, and very little space to </p><p>put your hand up and say, honestly, this is a lot.</p><br><p>The Daisy Chain is that space. A weekly podcast for anyone figuring out life without a conventional support </p><p>network - whether you've lost a parent young, never had someone to turn to, or simply find yourself navigating </p><p>careers, relationships and identity without a map.</p><br><p>Every Thursday, host Daisy sits down with remarkable people across generations to pass on four pearls of everyday </p><p>wisdom - the kind that only comes from having really lived.</p><br><p>You are not as lost as you think. And you are not doing this alone. Welcome to the chain. 🌼</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Adulthood is overwhelming. There's so much noise telling you how your life should look, and very little space to </p><p>put your hand up and say, honestly, this is a lot.</p><br><p>The Daisy Chain is that space. A weekly podcast for anyone figuring out life without a conventional support </p><p>network - whether you've lost a parent young, never had someone to turn to, or simply find yourself navigating </p><p>careers, relationships and identity without a map.</p><br><p>Every Thursday, host Daisy sits down with remarkable people across generations to pass on four pearls of everyday </p><p>wisdom - the kind that only comes from having really lived.</p><br><p>You are not as lost as you think. And you are not doing this alone. Welcome to the chain. 🌼</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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