The Law School Lounge

Ep. 32 - Kamina Pinder - The 1L Guide to Legal Writing

Tue, 14 May 2024 21:01:33 GMT

We are joined this week in the Lounge by Professor Kamina Pinder, a Professor of Practice at Emory University School of Law. Kamina’s new book, The 1L Guide to Legal Writing, was created with the law student in mind. Kamina includes samples of legal writing throughout with ways to assess those samples and margin notes. Her new book incorporates feedback from students and professors alike to create an accessible way to learn legal writing in the context of both predictive and persuasive writing. Our conversation considers the structure and coverage of Kamina's new book while also focusing on important legal writing tips (like what TO do and what NOT to do). This conversation is essential for any law student who will be setting out on their law school journey or for students currently tackling their 1L legal writing class.

You can grab your own copy of The 1L Guide to Legal Writing here.

You can learn more about Kamina Pinder here.

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Ep. 31 - Ron K. L. Collins - The Story of the Infamous Emmett Till Murder Trial

Tue, 30 Apr 2024 22:59:06 GMT

**Listener discretion is advised for this episode.** Welcome back for another episode of the Law School Lounge! This week our host, Krystal Norton, is joined by author and scholar Ronald K. L. Collins. Ron Collins recently published Tragedy on Trial: The Story of the Infamous Emmett Till Murder Trial with Carolina Academic Press, and he is here to talk about this historical work. Whether this is your first time learning about Emmett Till or you have researched the topic, you can take something away from this discussion.

Ron explains his road to publication and his process for researching and writing the book. Ron considers why he wanted to share his research with others and what he hopes the book will achieve. There is also discussion throughout the episode about Emmett Till's case, including influential articles written about his death, how his mother, Mamie Till, shared his story with the world, and about the corrupt sheriff who went to such extremes to block justice in the case. The discussion covers a lot of ground related to the case directly and the context of the time.

If you would like to read more about Ron K. L. Collins, you can do so here.

If you're ready to grab a copy of Tragedy on Trial or any of Ron's other titles with Carolina Academic Press, you can do so here.

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Ep. 30 - Simon & Cooney - Legal Style and the Case for Effective Legal Writing

Tue, 16 Apr 2024 11:13:53 GMT

We are back in the Lounge this week to have another discussion about legal writing. This week we tackle style, tone, grammar and more as it relates to the real-world consequences of poor legal writing. Professor Diana J. Simon of the University of Arizona James E. Rogers College of Law and Professor Mark Cooney of Western Michigan University Cooley Law School, co-authors of The Case for Effective Legal Writing: Court Opinions, Commentary, and Exercises, talk about their own experiences with legal writing and the unique elements of their new, first of its kind, legal writing casebook. There are some laughs along the way as these authors explore the style and tone of legal writing and share tips for newer legal writers. Both professors also take a moment to reflect on teaching and how much working with their students means to them.

You can grab your own copy of The Case for Effective Legal Writing: Court Opinions, Commentary, and Exercises here.

You can learn more about Professor Diana J. Simon here.

You can read about Professor Mark Cooney here.

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Ep. 29 - O'Leary and Martin-Scott - Multicultural Lawyering (Part 2)

Wed, 03 Apr 2024 13:13:07 GMT

The conversation on Multicultural Lawyering continues this week here at the Law School Lounge. Professor Kimberly O'Leary and Dean Mable Martin-Scott of Western Michigan Cooley Law School are back with our host, Krystal Norton, to talk more about their experiences with multicultural lawyering while providing suggestions and tips for our listeners who are new to or continuing the journey. These two experts discuss measuring implicit bias, challenging bias, respectful discourse, and overcoming your assumptions. Throughout their conversation, both professors mention different resources and some are linked below for your continued learning about these incredibly important topics.

The "Five Habits of Cross-Cultural Lawyering" by Sue Bryant and Jean Koh Peters, along with resources, can be found here.
The full citation for the article mentioned by Professor O'Leary is as follows: Albert J. Moore, Trial by Schema: Cognitive Filters in the Courtroom, 37 UCLA L. REV. 273 (1989).
You can grab a copy of "Blink: The Power of Thinking Without Thinking" by Malcolm Gladwell here.
Please also check out Professor Kimberly O'Leary's and Dean Mable Martin-Scott's book, Multicultural Lawyering: Navigating the Culture of Law, the Lawyer, and the Client, here.

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Ep. 28 - O'Leary and Martin-Scott - Multicultural Lawyering (Part 1)

Tue, 19 Mar 2024 19:40:33 GMT

We are back in the Lounge this week with two very special guests to talk about multicultural lawyering. Professor Kimberly O'Leary and Dean Mable Martin-Scott of Western Michigan Cooley Law School created a course and wrote a book dedicated to learning and understanding the concept of multicultural lawyering. In part one of this two-part conversation, we focus on the definition and contours of multicultural lawyering, what it means to teach and work through concepts of multicultural lawyering, and the exercises they have found to be the most impactful for students. Dean Martin-Scott and Professor O'Leary share what they have learned along the way, and our host, Krystal Norton, expresses what she has learned through even just this short conversation with these scholars.

The "Five Habits of Cross-Cultural Lawyering" by Sue Bryant and Jean Koh Peters, along with resources, can be found here.
The full citation for the article mentioned by Professor O'Leary is as follows: Albert J. Moore, Trial by Schema: Cognitive Filters in the Courtroom, 37 UCLA L. REV. 273 (1989).
You can grab a copy of "Blink: The Power of Thinking Without Thinking" by Malcolm Gladwell here.
Please also check out Professor Kimberly O'Leary's and Dean Mable Martin-Scott's book, Multicultural Lawyering: Navigating the Culture of Law, the Lawyer, and the Client, here.

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Ep. 27 - Christina Chong - Law School Success: Exams and the Three-Step Method

Tue, 05 Mar 2024 15:54:08 GMT

On the latest episode of the Law School Lounge, Host Krystal Norton is joined by Dean Christina Chong-Nakatsuchi, Associate Dean of Academic Affairs and Professor of Law at the Monterey College of Law. Dean Chong is the author of CAP's The Perfect Practice Exam: The Skill of Legal Analysis. Dean Chong talks about why she was inspired to write this book. She also walks listeners through her "Three-Step Method" for legal analysis; a method designed to help students focus and work through law school exam problems. Throughout their discussion, Dean Chong offers tips and strategies for law school exam success, while also explaining how using her supplement or any form of practice problems can help students learn skills and feel confident during exams.

Please check out Dean Chong's book, The Perfect Practice Exam, here.

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ANNOUNCEMENT: New Episode Release Schedule Change!

Wed, 28 Feb 2024 15:12:49 GMT

Time to share some changes for the Law School Lounge! Our release schedule will be changing for new episodes! You can now expect new episodes every other Tuesday, the first and third Tuesday of every month. We understand that this will mean a few less episodes for our incredible listeners, but we want to be able to create consistent engaging interviews and other content for you. This change will allow us to do that. Since March is already upon us, you can expect a new episode next Tuesday! Stay tuned and thanks for listening.

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Ep. 26 - Mary Ellen O'Connell - International Dispute Resolution

Wed, 14 Feb 2024 23:43:15 GMT

The Law School Lounge is back with a new episode about international dispute resolution (IDR). Host Krystal Norton is joined by author and Professor of Law Mary Ellen O'Connell of the University of Notre Dame Law School. Professor O'Connell explains how she found herself an expert on IDR and why IDR is so crucial to our ever-evolving global community. Mary Ellen and Krystal explore the skills learned through studying or practicing IDR, the importance of IDR to global peace and stability, and the question of why IDR has fallen out of favor with a resurgence on the horizon. Mary Ellen drives home the importance of language and describes other lenses that may help in IDR and similar contexts. Between talking about current issues and cases, Mary Ellen also offers tips for students and faculty involved in IDR coursework; she carefully explains how her books International Dispute Resolution: Cases and Materials and The Art of Law in the International Community can be used by students, faculty, and anyone interested in learning more.

If you want to learn more about Professor O'Connell, you can find her bio here.

Her co-authored CAP casebook, International Dispute Resolution: Cases and Materials, now in its third edition, is available here.

The Art of Law in the International Community can be purchased here.

If you're looking to do further reading on the case between South Africa and Israel discussed in this episode, you can find more materials on the ICJ's website.

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Ep. 25 - Tanford & Keele: Trial Advocacy, Pretrial Practice

Tue, 30 Jan 2024 21:09:49 GMT

We return this week to talk about pretrial practice with special guests Professor Alex Tanford, Professor Emeritus of Law from Indiana University's Maurer School of Law, and Professor Layne Keele, an Associate Professor of Law at Samford University's Cumberland School of Law. These two guests bring so much to the lounge, including stories and experience about the practice of law, notes for students and new attorneys for different stages of pretrial, and ideas for faculty on teaching pretrial process in law schools. Along with host Krystal Norton, these guests define pretrial stages of a case, give tips for interviewing clients, share ideas for handling depositions and motions, and discuss the impact of AI and the pandemic on civil cases. It is a big conversation with so many great points, we hope you enjoy!

If you want to read more about our guests, you can find their bios and other scholarly work at the following links:

Professor Alex Tanford - Bio and Publications
Professor Nick Stephanopoulos - Bio and SSRN (includes preview pages of The Pretrial Process, Third Edition)

If you would like to purchase or request a review copy of The Pretrial Process, you can do so here.

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Ep. 24 - Tokaji & Stephanopoulos: Election Law: Voting Rights, Gerrymandering, Campaign Finances, and More

Tue, 23 Jan 2024 22:19:37 GMT

The Law School Lounge is back this week with an insightful and current discussion about Election Law. Special Guests Dean Daniel Tokaji of the University of Wisconsin School of Law and Professor Nicholas Stephanopoulos of Harvard Law School bring their expertise to our listeners. They share insights on concepts of pluralism and factions, gerrymandering and districting, campaign finances, the right to vote, and so much more. As leading scholars in the area they answer questions like: "What can be done about gerrymandering?" and "How might campaign financing impact the 2024 presidential election?"

If you want to read more about our guests, you can find their bios and other scholarly work at the following links:

Dean Dan Tokaji - Bio and SSRN
Professor Nick Stephanopoulos - Bio and Publications

If you would like to purchase or request a review copy of of Election Law: Cases and Materials, you can do so here.

Professor Rick Hasen, a co-author of this book and a big contributor to the area of Election Law, produces the Election Law Blog. We reference the blog in our episode and our listeners should definitely take some time to check out his articles and podcast.

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Ep. 23 - Dyszlewski & Harrington-Steppen: Integrating Diversity Into Law School Courses (Part 3)

Wed, 17 Jan 2024 00:52:31 GMT

We are closing out our discussion on integrating diversity and equity into law school courses (for now) with part three of the series. This series is inspired by the Integrating Doctrine and Diversity volumes, co-edited by today's guests Professors Nicole Dyszlewski and Suzanne Harrington-Steppen of Roger Williams University School of Law. As this is the final part of our series (go back and list to the first two parts if you haven't already) we focus on themes and takeaways. Nicole and Suzy both take the time to reflect on what they have learned from creating these books and through working on the speaker series, and they share what they have gained through trial and error in their own courses as faculty. Some of the major themes we consider include intentionality in teaching and course design to include diverse elements, building community as part of the journey to practice and receive feedback, the use of reflection as a tool for integrating diversity in law school, and the need for vulnerability within this practice. Suzy and Nicole candidly share their own experiences, and their insights will help any professor consider how they might integrative diversity into their courses.

If you want to grab the incredible books that inspired our episode, you will find them at the links below.

Integrating Doctrine and Diversity: Inclusion and Equity in the Law School Classroom, available here.

Integrating Doctrine and Diversity: Beyond the First Year, available here.

Also, if you haven't already, head over to the Integrating Diversity Speaker Series recordings and resources, available on the Roger Williams University School of Law website.

You can learn more about Professor Nicole Dyszlewski here. You can read about Professor Suzanne Harrington-Steppen here.

Part One and Part Two of our discussion are in your feed and available here. Find us on Twitter and X (@lawschoollounge).

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Ep. 22 - Dyszlewski & Russell: Integrating Diversity Into Law School Courses (Part 2)

Tue, 09 Jan 2024 15:33:25 GMT

We are back in the Lounge with Part Two of our discussion on integrating diversity and equity into law school courses. This three-part series is inspired by the Integrating Doctrine and Diversity volumes, co-edited by today's guests Professor Nicole Dyszlewski of Roger Williams University School of Law and Anna Russell, a librarian at the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. In Part Two, we dive deeper into some of the topics from Part One while also exploring some new terrain. We take a closer look at how these volumes are meant to be used within law schools while also considering how the books can be used by legal professionals. Our discussion surrounding the Doctrine and Diversity Speaker Series continues, and you learn why the series was developed, the goals for the series, and why it continues to be successful. Nicole and Anna share some examples of essays from the books and we dive into diversity in publishing. We cover a lot this episode, and we hope that you learn something!

If you want to grab these incredible books, you will find them at the links below.

Integrating Doctrine and Diversity: Inclusion and Equity in the Law School Classroom, available here.

Integrating Doctrine and Diversity: Beyond the First Year, available here.

Also, if you haven't already, head over to the Integrating Diversity Speaker Series recordings and resources, available on the Roger Williams University School of Law website.

You can learn more about Professor Nicole Dyszlewski here.

Part One of our discussion is in your feed and available here. We can't wait to see you next week for Part Three! Find us on Twitter and X (@lawschoollounge).

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Ep. 21 - Dyszlewski & Tung: Integrating Diversity Into Law School Courses (Part 1)

Wed, 03 Jan 2024 13:47:32 GMT

Welcome back to a new year here at the Law School Lounge! We are kicking off 2024 with a three-part series inspired by the Integrating Doctrine and Diversity volumes, co-edited by today's guests Professors Nicole Dyszlewski of Roger Williams University School of Law and Genevieve Tung of the University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School. In Part One, we discuss the impetus for their work, goals they set with this project, and how the information is meant to be a direct resource for law faculty looking to enhance diversity and equity inclusion within the doctrinal classroom. We have some laughs along the way, but at the heart of this episode is a candid discussion of what it is like to work in the DEI space, how to do so in a respectful and amplifying way, and how to handle bumps throughout the journey.

If you want to snag a copy of these two volumes, you will find them at the links below.

Integrating Doctrine and Diversity: Inclusion and Equity in the Law School Classroom, available here.

Integrating Doctrine and Diversity: Beyond the First Year, available here.

Also, if you haven't already, head over to the Integrating Diversity Speaker Series recordings and resources, available on the Roger Williams University School of Law website.

You can learn more about Professor Nicole Dyszlewski here and about Professor Genevieve Tung here.

We can't wait to see you next week for Part Two! Find us on Twitter and X (@lawschoollounge).

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Ep. 20 - Laura Riley - Homeless Advocacy: Advocating for and working with unhoused populations

Tue, 12 Dec 2023 23:36:20 GMT

We are in the Lounge this week with Professor Laura Riley, the Director of the Clinical Program at UC Berkeley School of Law and the author of "Homless Advocacy." Professor Riley's discussion with our host, Krystal Norton, covers the stigma faced by unhoused people in the United States, the history of homelessness within the country, how being an effective advocate means competently and compassionately working with people experiencing homelessness, and models for homeless advocacy. The two also consider potential or current solutions and strategies like decriminalization of certain acts, accessory dwelling units (ADUs), litigation to create precedent, and more.

Please be sure to check out Professor Riley's book, "Homeless Advocacy," available here.

You can learn more about Professor Laura Riley here.

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Ep. 19 - Vinson & Romantz - CREAC 2.0 - Advanced Strategies and Notes on Legal Analysis

Tue, 05 Dec 2023 21:16:22 GMT

Professor Kathy Vinson of Suffolk University Law School and Professor David Romantz of the University of Memphis Cecil C. Humphreys School of Law are back in the Lounge with host Krystal Norton to dive deeper into CREAC. The second part of their discussion focuses on the "What next?" part of legal analysis. They talk about how to handle multiple CREACs for one document, how to handle policy arguments, whether to use CREAC in all types of legal writing, and whether style should be something legal writers incorporate into their pieces. Listeners will enjoy a few more laughs with these incredible authors and gather some great tips on how to be strong legal writers.

Remember that the book is celebrating its 25th anniversary this year, so feel free to give the professors a shoutout or congratulations on social media or the next time you see them!

If you don't have your own copy yet, you can grab "Legal Analysis: The Fundamental Skill" here.

You can learn more about Professor Kathy Vinson here, and you'll find more information about Professor David Romantz here.

Thank you for listening! Don't forget to give us a follow on X and Instagram (@lawschoollounge) and please give us a five-star rating on any platform.

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Ep. 18 - Vinson & Romantz - Legal Analysis with CREAC: The Basics

Tue, 28 Nov 2023 15:22:08 GMT

Host Krystal Norton is joined in the Lounge by Professor Kathy Vinson of Suffolk University Law School and Professor David Romantz of the University of Memphis Cecil C. Humphreys School of Law to talk legal analysis and CREAC. As the co-authors of "Legal Analysis: The Fundamental Skill" and creators of the now widely-applied paradigm CREAC, Professors Romantz and Vinson discuss the thought behind the paradigm, the components that make up CREAC, and common pitfalls or red flags students ought to keep in mind as they first start using this tool. This episode covers the basics and a second episode, to be released next week, covers more advanced issues. Law students will walk away from this initial conversation with some tips, with a feeling that they are not alone, and a couple of laughs.

The book is celebrating its 25th anniversary this year, so feel free to give the professors a shoutout or congratulations on social media or the next time you see them!

If you don't have your own copy yet, you can grab "Legal Analysis: The Fundamental Skill" here.

You can learn more about Professor Kathy Vinson here, and you'll find more information about Professor David Romantz here.

Thank you for listening! Don't forget to give us a follow on X and Instagram (@lawschoollounge) and please give us a five-star rating on any platform.

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Ep. 17 - Raneta Mack - Unpacking Race in the American Jury System

Wed, 15 Nov 2023 19:46:52 GMT

The Law School Lounge is back this week to talk about the historical and enduring nature of racism faced by Black Americans in the context of the criminal jury system. Host Krystal Norton is joined by special guest, Professor Emerita Raneta Lawson Mack, and together they walk through cases, reflections, and current legal issues surrounding racism in criminal jury participation. Professor Mack starts all the way back with the creation of the jury system in America and proceeds to talk about how the system, and the nature of racism within that system, evolved after the Emancipation Proclamation, the Fourteenth Amendment, Jim Crow, and into the present day. Professor Mack discusses peremptory challenges and their use to discriminate in this context, and she dives into issues faced by Black people and people of color with jury participation today, including a lack of faith in the criminal legal system, mass incarceration, jury sanctity, and felony convictions.

Listeners, please be aware that this episode discusses topics that some audiences may find difficult to explore or discuss, including criminal charges, racism, discrimination, slurs, and related items. Listener discretion is advised.

Professor Mack discusses all the points covered today in greater depth and with more opportunities for critical thinking in her book, "Unpacking Race in the American Jury System: Cases Readings, and Perspectives," which can be purchased here. Additional works written by Professor Mack can be found on Google Scholar.

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Ep. 16 - Peter Siviglia - Transactional Lawyers: What do they do, what skills do they need, and is this the right practice area for me?

Tue, 07 Nov 2023 19:40:00 GMT

The discussion topic for this week's episode of the Law School Lounge is transactional lawyering and skills. Host Krystal Norton is joined by Peter Siviglia, an attorney with more than 50 years' experience practicing law in New York and author of Transactional Skills: Contract Preparation and Negotiating (What to do - and What Not to Do). Peter's candid comments throughout this episode help listeners get a feel for transactional lawyering, including the types of cases they may handle and the types of responsibilities they will have in practice. Throughout the discussion, Peter offers numerous tips for new attorneys while also explaining what it takes to not only be a transactional lawyer, but to be a darn good one.

If you want to grab a copy of Transactional Skills by Peter Siviglia, you can find it here. His other recent title with CAP, Exercises in Commercial Transactions (Second Edition) is available here.

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We will see you next Tuesday!

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Ep. 15 - Dickerson & Bowman - Law Review Editorial Board: Who are they, what do they do, and how do I join?

Tue, 31 Oct 2023 20:20:40 GMT

We are back in the Law School Lounge this week and host Krystal Norton is joined again by Dean Darby Dickerson, the Dean and President of Southwestern Law School, and Professor Brooke Bowman, a Professor of Law at Stetson University College of Law. These two experts in legal scholarship are turning the discussion to law review and law journal editorial boards. In last week's episode, the structure of these boards was addressed. Now, these three discuss the roles of specific members, the difficulties faced by students in these positions, how members are selected (plus great tips for those seeking a position), and how editorial boards commonly select the articles for their publication. This candid discussion will be helpful to law students seeking editorial board positions and faculty advisors who work with these students on a regular basis.

If you need valuable advice on being on law review, including how to make the most out of being an editorial board member, be sure you check out the Scribes Manual for Law Review Editors, co-edited by Dean Dickerson and Professor Bowman, available here.

You can learn more about Dean Darby Dickerson here and you can read about Professor Brooke Bowman here.

Also, if you don't already follow the Lounge on social media, find us on Instagram and X (Twitter): @lawschoollounge. Please don't forget to leave us that five-star review to help get the show out there. You can send any episode requests via email to lawschoolloungepod@caplaw.com. Thanks for listening!

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Ep. 14 - Dickerson & Bowman - What is law review and is it the right activity for me?

Tue, 24 Oct 2023 13:11:20 GMT

On this week's episode of the Law School Lounge, host Krystal Norton is joined by Dean Darby Dickerson, the Dean and President of Southwestern Law School, and Professor Brooke Bowman, a Professor of Law at Stetson University College of Law. These two experts in legal scholarship are here to discuss law reviews and law journals. Throughout this episode, Dean Dickerson and Professor Bowman articulate the difference between law reviews and law journals, give the history of law reviews, explain the structure of this student organization, and consider the impact of law reviews on the legal profession. This conversation is essential for any new law student and is meant to help those already in law school decide whether or not law review participation is right for them.

If you want to learn more about being a law review member and you need valuable advice on being on law review, make sure you check out the Scribes Manual for Law Review Editors, co-edited by Dean Dickerson and Professor Bowman, available here.

Also, if you don't already follow the Lounge on social media, find us on Instagram and X (Twitter): @lawschoollounge. You can send any episode requests via email to lawschoolloungepod@caplaw.com. Thanks for listening!

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Ep. 13 - Carmichael, Carr, & Covington - What's it like to be an online law student?

Tue, 17 Oct 2023 04:01:27 GMT

We are back in the Lounge! Host Krystal Norton is joined by three very special guests: Jessica Carmichael, Bethany Carr, and Sarah Covington. These three friends wrote a book as law students (incredible) to share their experience and practical tips for students entering an online JD program. Their book, Digitally Remastered: Modern Law School is an honest look into what it's like to be an online law student. In the book and this episode they share their experiences and what they've learned, all in hopes of helping other online law students and in guiding students considering online or hybrid programs. During this episode, you'll hear about balancing obligations, how to build a community, externships, the bar exam, and more!

You can buy Digitally Remastered: Modern Law School on Amazon and the Carolina Academic Press website: https://cap-press.com/books/isbn/9781531026943/Digitally-Remastered

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Ep. 12 - Jarvis, Cochran, & Rychlak - Gambling, Gaming, and Sports Betting

Tue, 26 Sep 2023 17:55:02 GMT

On the latest episode of the Law School Lounge, host Krystal Norton is joined by Professors Robert M. Jarvis, J. Wesley Cochran, and Ronald J. Rychlak to discuss the history, nuances, and current issues in gaming and gambling law! The discussion begins with a history of gaming in the U.S., then these special guests discuss a recent case, West Flagler Assoc. v. Haaland, that considers whether Florida law violates federal law (IGRA) by allowing the Seminole Tribe to manage specific types of gambling in the state. The three special guests also articulate the differences between types of betting, while exploring what issues are ongoing and likely coming in this area of law in the future.

If you'd like to review the West Flagler Assoc. v. Haaland decision, you can find it here.

If you want to learn more about our special guests, you can do so here: Robert M. Jarvis, J. Wesley Cochran, and Ronald J. Rychlak.

To find out more information about their book, head here.

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Ep. 11 - Fischl & Paul - What's a legal argument and does IRAC work for exams?

Tue, 19 Sep 2023 13:35:06 GMT

The Lounge is back this week with the final episode featuring very special guests Professors Richard Michael Fischl (University of Connecticut School of Law) and Jeremy Paul (Northeastern University School of Law)! The professors' discussion with our host, Krystal Norton, ends big by tackling the question: What is a legal argument? The discussion goes one step further and considers whether IRAC, a commonly taught framing device for legal writing, is the best option when it comes to law school exams. You don't want to miss the alternative structure for legal arguments Professors Paul and Fischl share here and develop more deeply in their book.

Professor Paul's law review article "A Bedtime Story" is referenced throughout this article. Here is a complete citation and link to this must-read piece for any law student: Paul, Jeremy R., A Bedtime Story (1988). Virginia Law Review, Vol. 74, No. 5, pp. 915-934, August 1988, Northeastern University School of Law Research Paper, Available at SSRN: https://ssrn.com/abstract=2131173.

Professors Fischl and Paul co-author the well-known and widely-recommended book "Getting to Maybe: How to Excel on Law School Exams," where they guide students through the exam process. The second edition of this law school classic book offers even more insights than its predecessor. You can purchase a copy of "Getting to Maybe" here.

You can learn more about Professor Richard Michael Fischl here.

You can learn more about Professor Jeremy Paul here.

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Ep. 10 - Fischl & Paul - What is all this talk about issue spotting?

Tue, 12 Sep 2023 05:01:37 GMT

Professors Richard Michael Fischl (University of Connecticut School of Law) and Jeremy Paul (Northeastern University School of Law) are back this week to talk about the art of legal issue spotting. When students find themselves in law school, they tend to hear the term "issue spotting" very early on, even before they truly know what the term means or how to identify a legal issue. Professors Fischl and Paul are here to unravel any mystery around the concept of a legal issue and the activity of issue spotting for purposes of law school exams and beyond. Professors Fischl and Paul co-author the well-known and widely-recommended book "Getting to Maybe: How to Excel on Law School Exams," where they guide students through the exam process. The second edition of this law school classic book offers even more insights than its predecessor, particularly on components like a case briefing method they have fine-tuned over the years.

You can purchase a copy of "Getting to Maybe" here.

You can learn more about Professor Richard Michael Fischl here.

You can learn more about Professor Jeremy Paul here.

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Ep. 9 - Shailini Jandial George - How can I use reflection and build resilience to manage my well-being?

Tue, 05 Sep 2023 19:15:32 GMT

It's time to dive into law student and lawyer well-being again with guest Professor Shailini Jandial George. In the second part of this conversation, Shailini and Krystal Norton (host) talk about reflection as a tool for well-being. They talk about how to meaningfully incorporate this practice into your life without becoming overwhelmed. They also define and discuss resilience in the context of law school, law practice, and life, while the contrast the concept with perseverance. Shailini shares her thoughts on resilience as a set of skills and why those skills are essential to any professional.

To learn more about Professor George, check out her bio on the Suffolk University Law School website or take a look at her work with the Institute for Well-Being in Law. You can also follow her on Twitter (@ShailiniG).

If you are interested in buying a copy of Shailini's book, "The Law Student's Guide to Doing Well and Being Well," you can find it here.

Find the Law School Lounge Podcast on Twitter and Instagram (@lawschoollounge) and please send all recommendations to lawschoolloungepod@caplaw.com. Thank you for listening!

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Ep. 8 - Fischl and Paul - How do you write a case brief?

Tue, 29 Aug 2023 09:55:06 GMT

Welcome back to the Law School Lounge where we are switching gears a bit this week (don't worry - more on well-being to come next week)! Professors Richard Michael Fischl (University of Connecticut School of Law) and Jeremy Paul (Northeastern University School of Law) bring their many years of expertise and experience as educators to the table to discuss the case brief. What do you need to include? What shouldn't you include? Do you need to brief a case in the first place? You'll get a lot of conflicting advice on this topic as a law student, and these respected professors are here to clear up a few things. Professors Fischl and Paul co-author the well-known and widely-recommended book "Getting to Maybe: How to Excel on Law School Exams," where they guide students through the exam process, including how to write and use case briefs to learn the material. The second edition of this law school classic book offers even more insights than its predecessor, particularly on components like the a case briefing method they have fine-tuned over the years.

You can purchase a copy of "Getting to Maybe" here.

You can learn more about Professor Richard Michael Fischl here.

You can learn more about Professor Jeremy Paul here.

If you have episode requests, get in touch! The show's email address is lawschoolloungepod@caplaw.com.

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BONUS EPISODE - Tanya Monestier - Womanhood in Law School and Law

Thu, 24 Aug 2023 14:05:42 GMT

In the Law School Lounge's very first bonus episode, Professor Tanya Monestier is back to talk with host Krystal Norton about what it's like to be a girl in law school and as a legal professional. Their conversation spans everything from making friends and social media to attire and inappropriate comments about bodies or abilities. The two revisit the topic of imposter syndrome and how it may impact girls specifically while also talking about the contradictions of womanhood and gender norms. This discussion was inspired by "A Chapter for the Girls" from Tanya's book "Sh*t No One Tells You About Law School." Please share the episode on social media. We are considering turning this into a mini-series, so if you'd like to see that happen, please be sure to give us a shout out and let us know! Also, if you haven't already, scroll back in your feed and listen to Tanya's first episodes at the Lounge.

To learn more about Tanya, check out her bio with the University of Buffalo School of Law.

You can buy "Sh*t No One Tells You About Law School" on our website and on Amazon.

Find us on Twitter and Instagram (@lawschoollounge).

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Ep. 7 - Shailini Jandial George - Why is well-being so difficult to master in law school?

Tue, 22 Aug 2023 05:01:48 GMT

In the first part of this conversation between Professor Shailini Jandial George and host, Krystal Norton, the two discuss why well-being seems to be such a struggle for law students and the legal profession. As a scholar on lawyer well-being and mindfulness, Shailini shares her thoughts on the adversarial nature of law school and how faculty and students should consider developing habits as early as possible to foster well-being among legal professionals. Shailini talks about her classes, her work, and her own experiences in the first part of this compelling conversation. The second part of this discussion will be released next week.

If you are interested in buying a copy of Shailini's book, "The Law Student's Guide to Doing Well and Being Well," you can find it here.

Find the Law School Lounge Podcast on Twitter and Instagram (@lawschoollounge) and please send all recommendations to lawschoolloungepod@caplaw.com. Thank you for listening!

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Ep. 6 - Katie Rose Guest Pryal - Neurodiversity, Disability, and Mental Health in Law and Law School

Tue, 15 Aug 2023 05:01:28 GMT

Welcome back to the Lounge! Katie Rose Guest Pryal is here this week for a deep discussion on neurodiversity and disability, whether as a law student student, faculty member, or practitioner. Katie and Krystal Norton (host) share their personal experiences as neurodiverse individuals while sharing difficulties, tools, and areas of improvement within the legal world in these areas and that of mental health. The two define neurodiversity and accessibility, they discuss Katie's journey into the legal profession, they talk about writing tips for neurodiverse people, and they discuss accommodations in the classroom. They also consider the mental health component to taking the bar exam.

WARNING: This episode covers topics that some listeners may find difficult. Listener discretion is advised.

If you want to keep up with Katie and look at a full list of her work: https://katieroseguestpryal.com/ and https://krgpryal.substack.com/.

The book we discuss heavily in the episode, "Life of the Mind Interrupted: Essays on Mental Health and Disability in Higher Education" is available on Amazon.

Katie's books and program with Carolina Academic Press can all be found here.

Resources and Articles Referenced in the Episode:

Bishop, Kaci, Framing Failure in the Legal Classroom: Techniques for Encouraging Growth and Resilience (October 12, 2017). 70 Ark. L. Rev. 959 (2018), Available at SSRN.
McElroy, Lisa T. and Pryal, Katie Rose Guest, The Worst Part of the Bar Exam: It's time to drop mental health questions., (August 7, 2014) available on Slate.com here.
Macfarlane, Katherine, Accommodation Discrimination (August 15, 2022). 72 American University Law Review (Forthcoming 2023) , Available at SSRN.
Schendel, Sarah, Due Dates in the Real World: Extensions, Equity, and the Hidden Curriculum (2021). Georgetown Journal of Legal Ethics, Vol. 35, Iss. 2 2021, Available at SSRN.
Pryal, Katie Rose Guest, Genre Discovery 2.0 (January 25, 2023). Forthcoming, Barry Law Review 2023, Available at SSRN.
Alexa Z. Chew & Craig T. Smith, Border-Crossing: Genre Discovery and the Portability of Legal Writing Instruction,25 Perspectives: Teaching Legal Res. & Writing 8 (2016).

The National Helpline provides 24-hour free and confidential referrals and information about mental and/or substance use disorders, prevention, treatment, and recovery in English and Spanish.

SAMHSA's National Helpline

800-662-HELP (4357)

TTY: 800-487-4889

For additional information on finding help and treatment options, visit www.samhsa.gov/find-treatment.

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Ep. 5 - Daniel Medwed - The Innocence Movement and Advocacy

Tue, 08 Aug 2023 05:01:41 GMT

We are back in the Lounge to spend some time with a new guest, Professor Daniel Medwed of Northeastern University School of Law. Dan Medwed has practiced, taught, and lead in the area of wrongful convictions and innocence-based advocacy for more than two decades. The conversation between Dan and Law School Lounge host, Krystal Norton, covers the process and avenues available to wrongfully convicted persons, including an analysis of the barriers presented by such processes. Their conversation focuses on common reasons for wrongful convictions while Dan shares stories of his time working on such cases. They also talk about the difficulties of working as an attorney in this area and why the movement has gained momentum in recent history. The episode closes with a short discussion of the West Memphis Three case and how patterns within innocence cases are apparent from the case's coverage.

Warning: This episode covers topics that some listeners may find difficult. Listener discretion is advised.

Disclaimer: Nothing in this episode may be construed as legal advice by any person. All statements are general and there is no attorney-client relationship. If you need advice about a legal matter, please contact an attorney.

Professor Dan Medwed's most recent book, "Barred: Why the Innocent Can't Get Out of Prison," is available here.

You can also learn more and request a review copy of the casebook Professor Medwed co-authors at Carolina Academic Press here.

If you want to learn more about Dan Medwed, then check here.

Since the West Memphis Three case was discussed in this episode, here are some further resources about the case:

Danielle Selby, "West Memphis Three: What You Should Know About Their Wrongful Conviction," (June, 7, 2023), available at: https://innocenceproject.org/news/who-are-west-memphis-three-damien-echols/
Mara Leveritt, "Devil's Knot: The True Story of the West Memphis Three," Atria Books (2003), you can buy it here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Devils-Knot/Mara-Leveritt/9780743417600
"Paradise Lost" (Parts 1, 2, and 3), Documentary
"The West Memphis Three: An ID Murder Mystery," Docuseries, (2020)

At the end of the episode, the podcast "Murder in Alliance: Who Killed Yvonne Layne," is mentioned, and you can listen to it or learn more here: https://www.murderinalliance.com/

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Ep. 4 - Tanya Monestier - What is outlining for a law school course?

Tue, 01 Aug 2023 05:02:40 GMT

We are back in the Lounge for the final part of our time with Professor Tanya Monestier. Outlining is a method of exam preparation that is new to many law students during their first semester. Tanya and host, Krystal Norton, share tips on how to prepare a course outline to help you succeed as a law student. They also talk about study tips that are less effective than an outline and why. If you are heading to law school or you are getting ready for exams, this episode is for you.

If you're interested in purchasing Tanya's book, you can find it here: https://cap-press.com/books/isbn/9781531024758/Sht-No-One-Tells-You-About-Law-School.

If you want to learn more about Tanya, you and read her bio and take a look at her other works here: https://www.law.buffalo.edu/faculty/facultyDirectory/monestier-tanya.html

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Ep. 3 - Tanya Monestier - How do I prepare for class and the Socratic Method?

Tue, 01 Aug 2023 05:01:40 GMT

We are happy to have you here at the Law School Lounge! The discussion between Krystal Norton (host) and Professor Tanya Monestier continues in this episode. After considering how to take quality notes, the two consider class preparation and the dreaded Socratic Method. What is the Socratic Method? Should I really be nervous for cold calls? Do I need to brief every detail of every case? Tanya and Krystal consider these questions and more.

If you're interested in purchasing Tanya's book, you can find it here: https://cap-press.com/books/isbn/9781531024758/Sht-No-One-Tells-You-About-Law-School.

If you want to learn more about Tanya, you and read her bio and take a look at her other works here: https://www.law.buffalo.edu/faculty/facultyDirectory/monestier-tanya.html

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Ep. 2. - Tanya Monestier - How do I take (good) notes in law school?

Tue, 01 Aug 2023 05:01:19 GMT

Welcome back to the Lounge! The conversation with Professor Tanya Monestier continues, but the topic is taking notes! Yes, yes, taking notes seems straightforward enough. But as every current or past law student knows, everyone has an opinion on how anything, including notes, should be done in law school. Tanya graduated first in her class, and she is here to share some tips that she found most useful when taking notes for exams. Tanya and your host, Krystal Norton, talk about what works and what doesn't to help future and current law students.

If you're interested in purchasing Tanya's book, "Sh*t No One Tells You About Law School," you can find it here: https://cap-press.com/books/isbn/9781531024758/Sht-No-One-Tells-You-About-Law-School.

If you want to learn more about Tanya, you and read her bio and take a look at her other works here: https://www.law.buffalo.edu/faculty/facultyDirectory/monestier-tanya.html

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Ep. 1 - Tanya Monestier - What's it like being a first-gen law student?

Tue, 01 Aug 2023 05:01:12 GMT

On this very first episode of the law school lounge guest Professor Tanya Monestier, author of "Sh*t No One Tells You About Law School," and host Krystal Norton discuss the first-gen law student experience. As first-generation students themselves, they tackle concerns like feeling out of place, learning law school culture, imposter syndrome, money, and more. The two share personal stories and pieces of advice for any new or current law student, but any first-gen student is likely to find something that resonates with them in this episode.

If you're interested in purchasing Tanya's book, you can find it here: https://cap-press.com/books/isbn/9781531024758/Sht-No-One-Tells-You-About-Law-School.

If you want to learn more about Tanya, you and read her bio and take a look at her other works here: https://www.law.buffalo.edu/faculty/facultyDirectory/monestier-tanya.html

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Law School Lounge Trailer

Thu, 13 Jul 2023 23:56:32 GMT

On this new podcast, legal authors and scholars dive deep into their expertise. Our host, Krystal Norton, asks questions every law student wants answered and she explores current legal topics in an objective, accessible way. The Law School Lounge is a place for any law school aficionado, so come join us as we discuss everything law school and the law.

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