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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[In Two mums talking Yvonne Bruce and Mandy Garner, two mums whose children, Jack and Anisha, were killed in a matter of seconds by road vehicles seek to open up a conversation about what it's like when such awful events explode in your family. It will cover everything from how to deal with family and friends and work, the difficulties of dealing with the justice system at a time of horrendous shock and how you as a parent look after your remaining family. It comes out of a sense that there is little understanding generally about the impact on families of road deaths and about what they need. The aim is to make it easier for those who are forced to join this terrible group of bereaved parents and to help those around them to know what they can do to help. The series will run weekly from September 3rd. Music by Leila Vidal-Garner and Philophobia. To contact Mandy and Yvonne email twomumstalking120@gmail.com<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Talking to a charity that helps parents</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Mandy and Yvonne talk to Ange Tyler, founder of the ELY Memorial Fund, set up in memory of her daughter Emma Louise Young to help parents who have lost their son or daughter in a road traffic collision and who need financial help and support.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title>Talking about family liaison officers</title>
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			<itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[In this episode, Mandy and Yvonne talk to Ray Williams, who has worked for many years on road safety education, investigating road deaths as a police officer and training family liaison officers. He is now working with law firm Slater &amp; Gordon as Police Relationship Manager. They discuss training of family liaison officers and how they interact with families.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Talking to Jack's friends]]></title>
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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode we talk to Jack's friends about who he was to them, the shock of losing him, the support they got and gave each other and how they think about life now.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<description><![CDATA[Mandy and Yvonne speak to Karen MacGregor, a journalist who works with Mandy who also lost her daughter Donna to road death. Karen reached out to Mandy when her daughter died. The three discuss support, return to work, helping others and more.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[Mandy and Yvonne speak to Karen MacGregor, a journalist who works with Mandy who also lost her daughter Donna to road death. Karen reached out to Mandy when her daughter died. The three discuss support, return to work, helping others and more.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Two mums talking: After road death</itunes:subtitle>
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			<itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[In this episode Mandy and Yvonne are joined by their partners, Gustavo and Simon, to talk about the support they did or didn't receive from friends, family, counsellors and work and how they remember Jack and Anisha.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[Mandy and Yvonne talk to Catherine Anderson, Road Victim Care Coordinator for London at Roadpeace about trauma, anxiety, counselling and more.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Talking to Anisha's friends]]></title>
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			<title>Episode 6: Where to go for help</title>
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			<title>Episode 5: The justice system</title>
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			<title>Episode 4: Work </title>
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			<title>Episode 3: Looking out for the kids</title>
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			<title>Episode 2: Family and friends</title>
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