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			<title>Storybrand for Realtors</title>
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			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Tech companies might not feel like the most natural fit for storybrand. After all, how do metrics, UI, and cutting-edge tech mesh with the human-centric marketing of Business Made Simple? The answer, it turns out, is through shared goals and a common link in UI. Matt Banker was able to sit down and interview Kelly Sjol, the founder of Storify Marketing, and a StoryBrand guide that primarily works with B2B and tech companies.&nbsp;</p><br><p>So how DO businesses in the tech space utilize StoryBrand in their marketing? Let’s see</p><br><p>Connect with Kelly: https://www.storifymarketing.com/</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title>Implementing StoryBrand for Complex Businesses</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2023 22:58:34 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>How to implement storyBrand for, like, really really smart people</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>StoryBrand is a great framework because it works with nearly every industry, but what happens when you’re trying to create StoryBrand for B2B businesses – who often have smart people on BOTH sides of the marketing equation? That’s the question we posed to Josh Brammer, owner of Lantern Marketing, who has extensive experience marketing to B2B service providers</p><br><p>Connect with Josh: https://hellolantern.com/story-that-sells/</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
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			<title>Implementing Storybrand for a Manufacturing Business</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2022 13:00:40 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>How to evolve sales-lead companies into marketing machines</itunes:subtitle>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>There are tons of successful manufacturing companies that have built their business on the backs of a great, old-school sales team. The problem is, when they are ready to implement modern marketing strategies, that sales-lead focus can be an impediment. </p><br><p>On this episode we talk with David Lillard about how manufacturing companies can better implement the Storybrand framework in their marketing and start see results from their efforts.</p><br><p>Find David at <a href="https://spartanbrandingco.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">spartanbrandingco.com</a> and find us at Banker Creative for <a href="https://bankercreative.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Storybrand web design</a>.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>There are tons of successful manufacturing companies that have built their business on the backs of a great, old-school sales team. The problem is, when they are ready to implement modern marketing strategies, that sales-lead focus can be an impediment. </p><br><p>On this episode we talk with David Lillard about how manufacturing companies can better implement the Storybrand framework in their marketing and start see results from their efforts.</p><br><p>Find David at <a href="https://spartanbrandingco.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">spartanbrandingco.com</a> and find us at Banker Creative for <a href="https://bankercreative.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Storybrand web design</a>.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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			<title><![CDATA[Implementing Storybrand for Artists & Creatives]]></title>
			<itunes:title><![CDATA[Implementing Storybrand for Artists & Creatives]]></itunes:title>
			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2022 12:05:14 GMT</pubDate>
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			<itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Artists and creatives of all types run into some common issues when they try to implement Storybrand principles for themselves or their organizations. Annie Schiffman is an improv-comedian turned marketer who helps folks in the creative world be better marketers. We discuss how it starts with a mindset shift, and how artists can get better at seeing themselves as a business that deserves to make money and much more.</p><br><p>Connect with Annie on Twitter (@annieschiff) or on her website (https://downstage.media)</p><br><p>Find Matt on LinkedIn (linkedin.com/in/mattbanker/) and at (bankercreative.com)</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></description>
			<itunes:summary><![CDATA[<p>Artists and creatives of all types run into some common issues when they try to implement Storybrand principles for themselves or their organizations. Annie Schiffman is an improv-comedian turned marketer who helps folks in the creative world be better marketers. We discuss how it starts with a mindset shift, and how artists can get better at seeing themselves as a business that deserves to make money and much more.</p><br><p>Connect with Annie on Twitter (@annieschiff) or on her website (https://downstage.media)</p><br><p>Find Matt on LinkedIn (linkedin.com/in/mattbanker/) and at (bankercreative.com)</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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